"Sinister Minister"

A Lifetime original podcast. What about for Conrad? No, his mother is so mean. His mother is the scariest. I could not work. The scariest boss. The scariest boss in all of Hollywood. Psycho boss. Psycho nanny boss. I love a Lifetime movie. Can we get every man to whoever this therapist is? Too many rocks. There's a reason why the past has not been beaten. Oh, you're trouble. What you think he gonna do for you?

time for you? Maybe he got his start being a reverend doing the Juggalos convention. Oh my god. How did I block that out? Come on, Trish. Be reasonable. I will not be reasonable, DJ. She's my daughter. I mean, if she's mad, then fine. But if she doesn't come home at some point... All I know is that I will not stop until I get her back. Or what? Or nothing!

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of I Love a Lifetime Movie. I am one of your hosts, Naomi Ekparakit, officially on double strike with the one, the only Megan Gailey. Now, Megan! Where you at, sis? We double striking. We coming to the second to last episode of Pod. I mean, the mood's not electric. It's not. You know, when we really go off the rails, it's like this has the potential to do that or has the potential.

And she'll be like, you know, push me out of the plane. Like I'm that lady's mom. I'm in a muumuu. I woke up. I set an alarm. We're recording at 1 p.m. I set an alarm for 1240 p.m. And didn't get out of bed till 1257. Wait, really? Yeah, just late there. Just laid there, you know. But you were on time. Megan was at the Zoom at one.

Oh, oh, on the dot. So I'm just very impressed that you were like, you know what I mean? Like able to roll and get to the computer still in three minutes. It takes me nothing. It takes me absolutely nothing because I look insane. No, she's looking cute, you guys. She's looking very cute.

Megan has a hair texture that doesn't really get wild. So, like, even if she's like, oh, I slept, it just has, like, a little body-otty. Look at her. She got a natural-ass beachy wave. She slept till 12.57 with a natural-ass beachy wave. This is white privilege. This is white privilege. I did wake up and tend to my child. I am not, I am not neglecting. We actually went out for a lovely family breakfast. You know, I think the, so we're on double strike.

The podcast is ending. It's also 1 million degrees out. As I told Naomi off the podcast, we just got back from Las Vegas. It was 110 every single day. I'm not. built for this yeah yeah yeah this is not I can't. None of us are. None of us are. Yeah. But like heat really affects my mood. So we went for a lovely. Also, as some of you have seen, my beloved family dog passed away. No.

Prayers up for Freeney. He was 15. He had a great life. But it's a lot right now. It is. I know. I know it is. We were out to eat. And Conrad, he's in this. phase where he just wants to talk to everyone. I mean, he can't talk, but, you know, like, engage with everyone. Wave. And we were at this restaurant at 8.04, open at 8. You know, so we're there with all the elders. Someone had one, like a... a rescued greyhound in there you know a rescued greyhound it's like it's like when

When the lights go on at a club and there's madness. Well, this is like before the lights even go down. Like, it's just everyone is elder. A man was like, how are you? Like he knew me and I'm like, I'm good. How are you? You know, like I'm meeting him where he's up. And so one of the waitresses, she loved Conrad so much. She goes, I want to take you home. And I said. Please do. 48 hours, he's yours. Oh my God, you've already become that mom. That's a classic mom joke. You know, someone's like...

I could just take you home. I could just eat you up. It's like, please do. Take him. Bring him back, but take him. Does Conrad like a restaurant? I know he's Smiley in general, but does he understand the difference between being out and being in? Does that make sense? You know, he treats everywhere like it's a. mud wrestling match so it doesn't you know he now at least like and our waiter was great too like he he had to bring over a thing of syrup and he like

he went around and set it on a ledge that like I could barely reach. Like it was like, yes, the syrup can be nowhere near the child, but. I don't know if I... Conrad needs to eat two breakfasts. Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean needs to eat two breakfasts? Like, does he, like, freak out? Like, what are we talking, 6 a.m. and 8 a.m.? We're talking, like, 6.30, 8 a.m.

That's just the first breakfast. Second breakfast. Continue. That's like first breakfast continues. 6.30 to 8 is like too little time in between. I mean. Sometimes it's seven and eight. And the thing is, I ate a double breakfast when I was pregnant. So who am I? You know, like maybe I trained him for this in the womb. You did. You did.

He's used to, too. Also, he just started going to daycare five days a week. Yeah, he's not gone five days. Last week was the holiday. He went three days. This week, he's gone four days. We'll see if we're paying for five days, but he's yet to go. And all the girls. in his little classroom vacation. So it's all boys. I went to pick him up yesterday.

10 boys, 10 one-year-old boys. And I said, what is this, a bachelor party? Wait, also, why are all the girls on vacation? They couldn't handle it. They go, I gotta go to Carmel. I gotta go to Catalina. Solving. I gotta go to the south of France. You know, all the girls, they're part of the AM. TPT. The girls are. They're studio heads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. They're all little Carol Lombardini. They said, we got to get on our mega yacht.

We need our mega yacht for the summer. We got to get out of here before they come for us with the pick forks. So what's going on in your world? Not a damn thing. I'm waiting to see if I'm going to get this TMS, you know, this magnetic stimulation on my brain. because I figure it's a six-week treatment of going every day. So what better time to try this than a strike? So that's what I'll be doing.

I had an intake, but can I tell you, I met with basically the nurse practitioner. So I already had two meetings. It was like a phone call, then another one. I'd much prefer a nurse practitioner. I think they have better bedside manner. But I will tell you, I was this woman. was so hot. She was like classically, like she almost Kardashian-esque a little bit. Like I was like, is there a touch of filler in the lip?

But, like, she didn't look plasticky. I thought you meant she came in like, Naomi Ekparagon, date of birth. Where did you grow up? No. You mean hot, like, a 10, like, physically. She was a... Full 10. That's such an LA thing. It's so LA. But then she told me, we're talking, she's like, oh yeah, I just moved from New York a year ago. So I was like, you were a 10 in New York being a whole ass nurse practitioner? I was like, you know what?

we don't deserve you because you didn't actually have to go to school and learn a skill. You didn't have to do that at all. And she was like, nice. And like, she seemed grounded. Cause you know me, I'd be up in handy in these conversations. You know, I'd be cracking jokes and acting a fool. Cause they always ask you, they're like, they got one lady.

Where they were talking and she's like, so do you have any mental health run in the family? I go, I'm black. We don't address these things. But I can tell you what I think of folks. I said, I can tell you what I think of folks. And then she goes, she's like, yeah, I'm Indian. I get it. And I was like, so you got me out here. And I was like, well, look, nobody has been formally diagnosed. But I do believe certain people have the following issues. The eye test tells me.

This branch of the tree is bipolar. Hello. I'm out here goofing. So I had that appointment yesterday. And also, as you know, Megan, because we were voice noting. Yesterday too, you know, I did attempt to order some lunch because I said, well, I got a job for two more weeks. I get to order meals for two weeks. After she talked me out of ordering.

$45 worth of Le Pen quotidian. I did. I said, don't do it, Megan. I said, don't do it. There's something about like caving by the end of the day that I said, I'll allow it. I know. Well, the thing is, it was really only going to be 20. It's $20 of food. But then it was like. a $13 delivery fee. And I'm like, for gazpacho? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

I don't know. No, absolutely not. That's my problem with it. That's why I'm like, don't do it. Like sometimes if I order, I will tend to order like enough for two meals. Yeah, that's very smart. But then I just eat it all. But now that I know, you know, yes, you really are making food. You need enough food for six, actually, because you and Conrad both have two breakfasts. So much food.

And as some of you saw when I went to the grocery store on Monday, my cart fully tipped over and smashed eggs on everything. Oh, my God. I saw that. I saw that like after the fact. Do you know how Instagram is? It's like I saw it like.

You know, when I saw it, it happened two days earlier. And I said, I can't believe she didn't voice note me about this. Because that's the kind of thing that would have just, I would have crumbled. I would have said the day is done. I would have said someone come pick me up. And it was like. It was 7.45 a.m. And you know a carton of eggs is like $24. So it's like, this is not a gag. The man who was at pavilions was a guardian angel.

that I do believe should be sent to teach other men how to deal with women that are in a crisis. Because I walked in. I walked in and he like noticed me from across the store. Like, what is she doing back already? And so he's looking at me like, what's going on? What's going on? And so I. I walk up. Was he an employee or he just was there? Okay. He was an employee. He's who had been my checkout guy. He was early, so no one was there, you know? Right. And, you know, him and I had had...

a friendly banter or whatever. It's a Megan Gailey interaction. You know there's a banter. You know there's a banter. And so he's like, is everything okay? And I'm like, so the cart tipped over and he goes, first of all, are you okay? Oh, wow. Which is like, yes. That is like if I had been and I was like, I'm totally fine. If I had been greeted with like, what? I would have been like.

But because he greeted me with, first of all, are you okay? Right, right, right. I was like, oh, all I want is a new thing of eggs and a new thing of mandarin oranges so I don't have to wash all of them off. And he was like... Absolutely. Is there anything else? And I had wheeled the cart back in because I couldn't just leave it. And so I went to get the mandarin oranges and the eggs. And by the time I came back, the cart was gone. what he said

The car, he said, get this shit out of here. Wow. I didn't even have to see it again. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay. That's a guardian angel. I think the time would, that honestly is a perfect thing to segue into the complete opposite of that man. We must segue into the complete opposite of that bit, into the man of today's motion picture, our second to last podcast episode. We are talking about...

A Sinister Minister. First of all, top title. Top title. We're going out strong. Title to die for. This lifetime thriller follows single mother Trish, who falls for the charismatic minister... DJ. I'm gonna put a pin in that when it comes to charisma. Finally, it seems Trish and her daughter will have the stable life they've always wanted.

But DJ has a much more sinister agenda. So you know what? We're going to get into it. Because quite frankly, Megan and I can just keep talking about whatever. So you may not even get a whole movie recap, okay? We're the final two episodes. We're going to do whatever the hell we want to do. I'm going to tell you that right now. It's going to be whatever we want to do. So we may talk about it. We may go off. Okay? Because right now, we're trying to survive.

But I will say we also can't be on too long because to record the AC got to be off. And as Megan also said earlier, it's hot as hell. Oh my gosh. Okay. So it's, you know, I don't have Megan's central air situation. This is do or die. So. get into it. Snowmobiling, relaxing in the spa and getting your foodie on. Who knew you could do all of this on a ski holiday? It's time to get next winter's trip in the diary.

Head to crystalski.co.uk. Choose from over 150 resorts and get flights, transfers and accommodations sorted in one easy package. Plus your trips covered by Abta and Atoll Protection, of course. Book today. and pay just £100 per person. T's and C's apply. Now, this movie immediately starts off strong in two ways. First, we see a Chiron that says, based on true events. Which, I, like, having now seen the film, I forgot that, and I need to circle back to what those events were, because, what?

I know. Then we see two people having sex in a tub in sort of a stone, it looks like a stone basement in medieval times. Where are they? Game of Thrones. I mean, the tub is rocks. The room is rocks. I saw and I said, and you're doing the hard work. You're taking like the real notes of what's happening. I'm in there going. Too many rocks. And they're having sex, like real sex. The woman has an orgasm. Like the sex is to the woman's completion. And I'm like, this is so bold and so intense too.

Open on. I know. It was wild. It was wild. And these two people who are having sex are DJ and Betsy. And DJ, we learned just in a conversation, DJ has a wife. Who is not Betsy? Okay. So we already understand. Okay. So it's like, whose rocks are these? This must be Betsy's rocks. But also it's giving soap. There are candles everywhere. There's no natural light. Like I just am like.

Are y'all like, where are, what basement do they build this set? Is this a bathhouse used during off hours? Just like the vibe is wild. It was soft core. So like, if you're looking for a little adrenaline. watch the first four minutes alone because you'll go okay it's not even four minutes is the thing like it's because it's like so short and yet

This to me, you know, is this like classic lifetime really dropping you into it. Painting a picture. 90 seconds. 90 seconds. Okay. It'd be like if we saw, like if someone opened up. a white van and 20 bodies fell out instead of one. It was just like, there's rocks everywhere. A woman is having an orgasm and the man's name is DJ and he's not a DJ.

It's a lot. It's a lot. And we also get the sense that, you know, DJ is a man of faith because of course, so because DJ mentions his own wife, Jewel. Okay. Jewel, he mentions her. And then, of course, Betsy's like, please don't bring up your wife after my orgasm. And then DJ's like, if God put this love in our hearts, and if he did, then it can't be wrong. And you're like, oh my God.

God, let's keep using religion to subjugate women, okay? And when DJ gets home from his dalliance with Betsy, there's police tape up. You know, the sirens are going and we learn that his wife, Jewel, is dead. And they say it looks like it's suicide. But from the scratch marks we saw in his bag during his sexy scene with Betsy. Yes. I beg to differ. I beg to differ. And like right after the sex scene, Betsy's like, what happened to your back? And I thought it was.

It's going to be like from sex. Like sometimes you get scratches on your back. I mean, not me. Well, especially with all those stones, with all the stones there. Yes. I said, sure. He's like, oh, I got rock burn. So Betsy knows they're not from sex, but you're right, Naomi. I completely forgot about that. Right? And so you're like, okay, there we go. So then the film cuts to three years later.

But I need you all to know that when it says three years later, for the entirety of the film, I believed it said cuts to three years earlier. No! Megan. So there's going to be multiple points where I have to go, well, I was confused why this person was here. This is why I take the notes. This is why I take the notes. And the thing is.

So not only did it say cut three years later on the screen of the movie, it also said three years later in the notes that I'm following along. And I go, OK, we're three years earlier. Let's go. Oh, my God. Too good. Well, three years later, we have teen girl Sienna and her mom, Trish. And honey, I swear to God, they look five years apart maximum. Okay. I know. And Sienna's giving moody.

Neve Campbell in the first screen. Oh, interesting. She was giving me, like, she's backup Megan Fox energy. You know, like, sexy bad girl. Sexy bad girl. It's just like, whenever a teen has a smoky eye in the middle of the day, it's like... Oh, you're trouble. Well, at first I thought I was going to like her because as they're driving through this town, first of all, classic lifetime mother-daughter duo. Okay. They're moving to a new town. For a fresh start. The mom says it's fresh start time.

And the town is called Brightside. Again, I love it because the town is always something idyllic. Yeah. But especially when a minister is involved. It's like the same thing with that John Stamos one where it's like the town is called, you know, Havenly or something. And then it's like always the worst shit is happening. And Sienna was like skipping school, doing drugs. She's a bad girl. But they're headed to a friend's son's baptism. Not a great first event in a new town.

I will say this. You did write in the notes. Is this the friend who found the dead wife from the cold open? Megan, I agree with you. I said this black lady looking identical to the first black lady we saw. Right?

Is it too different? I mean, I think it's supposed to be too different. And I said they should have done, they gave them the same curly wig. They have the same hair. Do you think they just put one wig on two actors? I would not be surprised if they said, well, we shot that one at night. The lighting is low. We can maybe put you.

in the daytime give you a son and shake it up i don't know okay so they're going to a baptism now naomi was surprised because she thought it was going to be an infant or a toddler but it's a full-grown man now i was surprised because the mother is a black woman and the son is an indian man i i also clocked what i thought was a south asian youth with an african-american mother and i'm not saying that's not listen yeah that can happen both of us are wrong and both of us are right adults

get baptized, and Black women raise all sorts of different children. So we're wrong and we're right. Well, the minister for this baptism... is the same rock sex... minister we saw from the beginning, DJ. He's got what I think is a terrible Southern accent. I said this, whatever accent you're doing, this is what's sinister. Okay. And I would like you guys to just listen. And this is kind of a long clip, but I just really felt like we needed.

Like, we need as much of it as our producer Aisha will allow. Because I feel like there's a lot going on. This is him giving a little sermon before baptism. Listen. Starting over is hard. It's humbling. frightening, humiliating. And I've started over, man, more times than I can count. Some of you know I was a tour manager driver for a big old band. Yeah, you know the one.

And it was amazing, glorious, wild, wild ride. But the thing is, life on the road affords a man a lot of opportunities. Work hard, play hard, you know. I played. Real hard. Dipped in a lot of different ponds. Entertained a lot of different pharmacology. Sometimes didn't even recognize the name of them. Just went with it. I was once called a raging, fornicating narcotopia. I was searching. Searching for something. Chasing. Why was I chasing?

Why was I so hungry? What was so wrong with what I already had? I'll tell you, this good book, and it is a good book, but this good book isn't worth the pages it's written of. i'm telling you it's just a bunch of words if we don't have one thing what is that one thing what is that one thing I don't know. I don't know either. I don't, really, I don't. I don't know what that one thing's name is, so I just have to call it what I call it. Love.

The love of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. The love that he showed for us when he sacrificed himself for us, for all of us. Amen. Okay. Megan. Megan. Yeah. What is the down home bro vibe he's giving? It's giving Hillsong. It's so weird. And like his name alone. And I'm married to a CJ. But there's certain jobs. My husband looks like a CJ. Dresses like a CJ. Has a job a CJ would have. DJ.

is not a reverend, like that, it's like, you gotta go by, if you're David Jr., you gotta go by David. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, DJ, if you just reach certain, like, think if we had a president DJ, like you just reach certain levels of adulthood where you got to drop the J. And to my CJ's defense, he tried to be Clyde. He's Clyde Januar. And he said, I'll be Clyde in high school. And everyone was like, you're a CJ if you're anything. I didn't know he was a Clyde.

I thought he was Conrad as his father was. Like, I thought it was three levels of Conrad. No, that's why it's so confusing. His dad was Conrad. He is Clyde Januar. And now the baby. is Conrad, and his initials are CJ, but none of them, they don't match his grandfather or his dad. I will say that, now my mind is, CJ is not a Clyde.

He's not a Clyde at all. He is a CJ. Well, there's a really fun basketball player whose name was Clyde. And like, you know, Filipinos, their names are wild. And I say that with absolute love. I say that with absolute love. The new Gerber baby's Filipino. I'm shaking. Like, I have so little going on positively in my life that I am celebrating the new Gerber baby being Filipino as my own win. A white woman going.

We did it, Maddie Mendoza! Oh, that's such a sweet name. Okay, Maddie Mendoza's gonna be a Disney star. She is so cute. But now CJ's like... Well, I didn't know there was a search. Why didn't we put up? I go, you know, Conrad has those little rashes on his cheek. And he goes, they could have put makeup on him. I'm like, they can't. Okay. Back to DJ. Back to DJ. Also, there's a moment where DJ says he was on the road with a band and is like, you know the one. You know the one.

And the congregation chuckles and it's like, no, we don't. Like, what are you even doing? Like, either make up a band name or name check a real band. That would be a funny joke. Do you know what I mean? Like when I was on the road with 311, that would have been funny. Or insane clown posse. Or he was, maybe he got his start being a reverend. Doing the Juggalos convention, whatever that's called. Also, the church is not packed. Like...

Whenever Lifetime does this thing where it's like, this is a charismatic preacher. This man can get anybody. It's like, if they can't pack the pews, they're not charismatic. You're right. You're right. You're right. You got to pack those pews, baby. But my favorite thing in the scene that I see is that Sienna, who we know is a teen who's bad news, wore to a baptism a marijuana leaf necklace. Like a big one.

Like a pendant. Oh yeah. Real big, real big, big enough to that afterwards, even the preacher calls it out. DJ is like beautiful necklace. It's like, we all know it's a marijuana leaf and it's insane, but. The whole time DJ's talking, he's talking about starting over, which of course means a lot to Trish. Mom, fresh start. But also as he's preaching, we see Betsy.

the side piece from the beginning listening and excited and now she's his wife okay so they have been together since his wife jewel committed suicide while they were having sex in the rock tub so yes But also, this is the first moment that me thinking since it's three years earlier, I'm very confused. I'm like, oh, so Betsy's his ex-wife. And he went back to her.

Oh, wow. So you really, it really did complicate the film for you. It really complicated the narrative entirely. Oh, I believe at some point in this movie, there's a ghost. Okay. I, you have got, okay. Okay, so as we do this recap, you got to give us your version of this movie with every turn. Because as things go on, I need to know where you're at in the whole three years earlier of it all. I will, because I write them in the notes.

Okay. So now Sienna, the teen daughter, you know, with the marijuana leaf necklace, she thinks DJ is creepy from the jump. Agree. But she's also like a bitchy teen. So her mom is like, oh, like you hate everything. And I was like, I get it.

And so then we see Trish, she's working at a diner. Which is my go-to job if the strike lasts much longer. Okay, you're going to do diner. I have this thing, and I may never lose it, where I'll be at a restaurant, the restaurant today, and I look around and I go...

I could work here. Like I just, you know, like once a waitress, always a waitress. Even at Conrad School, I think I told you this. They were like, mama could work here. Like I sit down, I start playing like once a nanny, always a nanny. Like you just sort of. As when we're in these very tumultuous times, these uncertain financial times, sometimes you look around and you see two gals marrying Ketchups and go, I think they're having a nice time together.

What's your go-to job? Oh, God. It really used to be babysitting. It was always temping. I mean, I freaking tempt. I worked at... as a temp at a staffing agency, okay? Between season two and season three of Broad City and people would come up to me and they would be like, do you think you're gonna keep doing comedy?

Like they were always being like, because of course I had to put on my resume that I had had these jobs. So I remember like literally sitting in there and this guy was like, oh my God, I love Broad City. I just came in to say hi. I actually can't control whether you get the job or not. Like it was something. And you were writing on it? Yeah. But see, seasons two and three. Pay the writers. Yeah, I was a nanny. The...

when I did Conan and I flew out to LA to do Conan and then flew back the next day to go to my nanny job. Yeah, absolutely. And like, I would babysit in a heartbeat. I don't know if I would do it out here. That's why, like, in New York, that was, like, easy go-to, right? Hop on the train, take the kid outside, take walks around the block. What about for Conrad? No, his mother is so mean.

His mother is the scariest. I could not work. The scariest boss. The scariest boss in all of Hollywood. Psycho boss. Psycho nanny boss. Now. Trish is working at the diner with her black friend, Carol. No one's in this diner. This would not be a fun job for you to have. You can't go back to a diner like this because the only person in the diner is Reverend DJ. And you know, reverends do not tip well. They probably write down like.

Philippines 314. And it's like, I need money. Not Bible passages. And he even starts flirting with Trish where you're just like, okay. I mean, like you're gross. Like you like. flirting with like any woman you see and we know you're married and you're a reverend. Red flag. Red. flag. But Trish likes it. She likes it. And this is my problem. And then Trish is like kind of talking to him, but then she gets a call from Sienna's school because she ain't there. Hadn't been there all day.

Very Sienna. We said, Sienna, fresh start, attend classes. And then immediately Trish gets fired for answering her phone at work. And then DJ is like, why don't you come work at the church, an admin job? And that's me doing whatever DJ's down-home accent is supposed to be. And she takes a job. Trish loves working at the church. And then his wife, Betsy, we see her. She's obviously around the church and doing the administrative. She has a lingering cough, honey. So do I.

So does Conrad. Well, sure. Y'all just keep getting sick. You know what I mean? It's in the chest. It's living in the chest. But yeah, she's sickly now. She's sickly. Exactly. The whole vibe is sickly, right? And it's feeling a little dicey. But even when she's sickly, right? She invites Sienna and Trish over to dinner and she's like made a giant meal. Like she's giving Thanksgiving vibes on a Tuesday night. And Sienna is rude as hell. Classic Sienna.

leaves early. This is when we learn in this moment though, like, cause they're outside arguing before Sienna just leaves. I guess she just gets in the car and is like, get me out of here. Trish had Sienna at 15, which explains a bit more why they look.

the same age yeah which means Trish is 31 and has a teen daughter and she's like oh boy well her daughter's 18 okay so 33 33 but it's like her last year of high school I guess right so it's like so she ain't really doing like it's a sense like yes Sienna's in school but she can't really control her all that much yeah and Sienna's loving being mean like Sienna's I don't like her at all like I was like I get being a bitchy teen

But, like, you just rude to everybody, like, kind of indiscriminately. And also, Trish seems like... pretty easy to walk over, unfortunately. And the reason they're getting this fresh start is because Sienna's dad, Trish's ex, we get the impression like... Cheated with multiple women, like really left a trail of tears and panties. And so it's like she's being so mean to her mom.

And it's, her mom isn't going through something. Yeah, she doesn't need you to be, you don't need to be that mean to her to get what you want. Be mean to the dad. Yeah. Oh, okay, or that too. But to me, I just felt like, I was like, Trish is not somebody you need to go that hard at.

No. You know what I mean? Where I'm just like, leave her alone. So again, this is on the porch of DJ and Betsy's house. Because Sienna's stormed out. Trish is like... gone after her this year and it walks away dj comes out and it's like you know is everything okay and then he leans in to try to kiss trish as his sick wife who cooked a whole meal Is in that house. Putting stuff in Tupperware. And this is what I'm saying is like, this for me is where Trish is too stupid, too desperate, too myopic.

Cause how you going to be so like, he's not simply the religious, you know, his religious standing in the community was like, he's a married man. Like I get that you may be attracted to him, but like if that's how he would treat the woman he's married to.

He's gross. Yeah, I'm like, what you think he gonna do for you? He ain't got nothing for you. Yeah. Okay. Then, cut to DJ standing over Betsy, who has been... fatally hurt in a car accident yeah it's like on the side of the road the car's busted up Betsy's head is all bloody and he's standing like okay I did good and then a police car rolls up and he's like oh my god my

My wife is, we were in a car accident and she's been hurt. We need help. And then we cut to Betsy's funeral. And DJ is standing outside the church receiving gifts. And then I write. Wasn't Betsy alive in the opening scene? Was this a staged death? Because you thought Betsy was Jewel, the wife who allegedly committed suicide. No!

No, I know they're two different. I'm just like, oh, Betsy was alive three years in the future, so they must have staged her death. To the death now, I see, so they could get back together.

In the future, I see, I see, I see. And the thing about Lifetime movies, I just fully accept that and move on. Like, I don't go back to be like, was I wrong? Is it three years later? I'm just like, okay. So Betsy staged her own death with the help of- dj and they're gonna do something together to trish and and that's just i accept that as yeah yeah that's definitely a story

possibility in the world of a lifetime film now here's the question i had like when dj was like receiving guests and then you see him at the pulpit i was like should a minister eulogize his own wife do they bring in someone else is it because it was giving very like i can't operate on this man he is my son

You know what I mean? Like it feels like you're too close to the situation. Not that you wouldn't maybe speak, but if you are so overcome with emotion, you wouldn't be able to. But the weird thing is DJ's not overcome by any emotion. Oh, well, hello. Yes. And you know who is overcome by emotion is Sienna. While DJ is eulogizing Betsy, who I believe to have staged her own death, Sienna is... uproariously laughing cackling cackling and like there is such a thing as like

Being uncomfortable and like laughing in a situation. I have laughed at a funeral. Okay. Like I have, something has set me off. Someone has moved funny. Someone's hair looks weird. And I've been like a little chuckle. She is like. He's like, my beloved wife is dead. And she's like, ah! But, um, shh. And Trish, like, pulls her out of there and is like, get it together. And Sienna drives off.

And then DJ comes out to talk to Trish. I said, wait, is the funeral even over? Weren't you in the middle of talking? I don't even understand. The man could not even summon a tear the entire time. Can't give a story. And he literally steps out in the middle of the eulogy to be like, let me go check on these two. Yeah. So that behavior is weird. I also think, why did you bring Sienna to this funeral? Like she needs to be in school. She clearly loves to skip school.

You think she's going to behave well? Well, I thought the vibe was because I agree with you because I was like, again, she's 18. It's not like she's a small child who needs to be looked after. However, is it like Trish feels like you can't be left alone, Sienna, so you have to come with me to this funeral. I was like, why would you bring her? She doesn't know this person. She has no connection to this person. And you know she hates DJ. And you know she don't know how to act anywhere.

Yeah. So this next scene is like almost not even necessary, but it is kind of funny. Sienna tries to get into a bar and her way of trying to get into the bar is wearing a blank black baseball hat. That's what an undercover cop wears. What are you doing? And the bouncer's like, you can't come in here. And so she's like, oh. And then so she like storms back to her car. And then a guy in a leather jacket comes up and goes, you're cute. Want to get high? And she's like, OK, and goes with him.

Sienna. At which point I thought, oh, okay. So this is what's going to happen is she's going to get murdered. That's what I thought. I thought, okay, she's going to go be attacked by this guy. And then the sinister minister is going to like kill him or something like that. Like I literally was like, oh, she's going off with a strange man in a parking lot. Like that's where the story goes. Right. And that's what I'm saying. Like the seat, if the story doesn't go there.

doesn't fully make sense it's not really needed but it is funny for that to be a pickup line and for it to work which is a red flag that that's it Young girl. Absolutely. Meanwhile, while Sienna's doing that, DJ shows up at Trish's house to grieve and uses the first hug she gives him as an end to a kiss and Trish reciprocates the kiss, honey. His wife?

Was buried that day. That day. Same day. Funeral day. And then while they kiss and Sienna comes in and is like, okay, y'all are both gross. And she storms off. And I said, you know what? Finally, I agree with you, Sienna. You're seeing things for what they are. A broken clock is right twice a day. Absolutely. And then for some reason, it's Sienna, you know, she goes into her bedroom, locks the door, and Trish can't get her to open it. And then for some reason, it's DJ.

who was able to get Sienna to open her door by saying some platitudes. Yeah. Cause he literally just is like, it's been a hard day and you gotta be nice to your mother. And like, she just opens the door and this is what I'm saying. There must be a scene missing. Because this is the first turn that makes no sense. I was like, maybe the guy in the parking lot gave her some drugs and it made her very docile or they were just like kicking in because it makes no sense that she's suddenly on board.

with anything he's saying. I was thinking the only way it would make sense that she would open the door is because she wants him to shut up. And... Yet it was like supposed to because like Trish looks so like emotional. It's like, wow, he's getting to her. He's really able to reach her. Sienna opened the door and was like smiled and was like, you're right. So it wasn't I need you to shut up vibes. It wasn't like.

Fine, go away. Yeah. Go have sex on top of the coffin, which is something we have seen before. What? On Deadly Mile High Club. They have sex on top of a woman who is trapped in a box. Oh, my God. How did I block that out? That's insane. Now. We cut to a month later and DJ and Trish. Full blown relationship. They have a kiss outside the church after he gives her a collection of sonnets. Okay. And then after that moment.

And Sienna is like sitting on the front steps of the church, basically waiting for her mom to be done with work. So I'm assuming she can get a ride somewhere or something. And for some reason, Sienna tells DJ her business and they exchange. Phone numbers. Can you please listen to this? Boy problems? Sorta. I met this guy and we hung out a few times.

We've been texting back and forth, and we had made plans to hang out tonight, but now he's being a jerk and not responding. Ah, don't sweat this guy, Sienna. You deserve better. A lot better. Yeah, I know, it's just... What? Never mind. Sienna, you can trust me. Okay, but you better not tell Mom or anyone. Of course not. He was supposed to get me, you know, some green. Oh, I see. Isn't it legal now? Well, I mean, I guess, but not until I'm 21. I understand.

Well, I'm sorry, Sienna, but just remember to be responsible, okay? And don't let this guy get to you. I'm telling you, he's a dweeb. Thanks, DJ. Of course. Nope. Wrong. No 40 year old man should be talking to an 18 year old girl. And especially not when that 18 year old girl is the daughter of the woman he is currently seeing. Because then we get this weird.

It seems like a montage, but I think it might just be one night, but they're just kind of showing different parts where Trish, Sienna, and DJ are hanging out. But DJ is focusing all his energy on Sienna instead of Mama Trish. And it's so creepy. And what makes it crazier?

is that we cut to Trish watching these interactions and smiling. Was she smiling the whole time? Because at first I thought she was like, oh, good, they get along. During this, she is. During this, she is. It's not until much later that she's like. She is like, sees them talking, sees him put his hand on her, like sees them joking. And she's like, I love how he is with Sienna. I said Sienna's an adult woman.

Okay. That's creepy. So creepy. And then that night, Trish and DJ are having sex. This movie is very sex positive. And right afterwards, he has to, quote, run out to get his Bible from the car to prep for a sermon. That's not a real excuse. And then Trish, like, you know, obviously he doesn't come back right away. And Trish finds him.

Talking quietly with Sienna in her bedroom. Now the light is on. Door closed on the bed. He's seated on the bed. The door is closed. And of course, Trish is like, what are we all talking about in here? Yeah, this is the first moment that she's like. What's going on? Of course, when she kind of asked him, he's like, oh, nothing. But we see that he actually gave Sienna a very large baggie of weed. Yep. And he calls her cutie pie and they're texting. Like even once he goes back to mom's bedroom.

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I thought she was trying to set a trap for him. Literally, I was like, there's no way she's really into this guy. So then she could be like, mom, look at what a disgusting, creepy is. Yeah, that would make sense. That's what I thought was happening in this moment. I thought, okay, okay, Sienna's got a plan. Sienna's got a plan. That's not what's happening. And Sienna has even worse of a plan because she used that big bag of weed and started...

To become a drug dealer. And, you know, we love. Well, she was sharing. She was sharing. This is a tricky thing. She was sharing. We love women in STEM. We love an entrepreneurial spirit. But she ends up getting caught by. like a security guard who's smoking a cigarette on the school premises. And I'm like, well, I don't know if that's allowed either. And so then she gets arrested and they take her to jail. Well, no, just to like the lockup.

They take her to this police station because that baggie he gave her is basically, they said you had enough weed on you to be classified as dealing drugs. It was like too much for individual use, basically. Where did DJ get all that weed? Thank you.

it's the maybe from when he was on the road with that band you know the one you know and she refuses to say where the weed came from and mom and dj are at the police station too so like when she's like she still won't tell us who it's from and you know she looks at dj dj look at her so you know she protected him And then Sienna's like, I'm not going home with you, mom. And then Sienna's father walks into the police station because she called him.

And now I got to say, his name is John Wells. They call him Wells the entire time. And I thought that was his first name until we see his ID where I'm like, Wells, Wells, what a weird choice. But I'm telling this dad, he looks. He's handsome, of course, his lifetime. Salt and pepper. He's looking at like a 45-year-old man, a salt and pepper 45. But remember, and...

This is what my brain is doing. Trish says she got pregnant at 15. Yeah. This man does not look like he was a high school student when Trish was a high school student. And later she says they were high school sweethearts. And I'm like, it must have been like a never been kissed situation where he went back undercover to write a story. Thank you. This is a grow. This man, I would have said late 40s. I know. Trish was 15. He was 33. And then you're being, so of course.

Fully never been kissed was your theory. Mine was he got struck by lightning. I said that's the only way to describe the fact that he is aged and full of gray streets. Because I was like, there's no way he could be a high school sweetheart to this woman. Yes. So. Basically, Sienna called him to be like, I'm going with dad.

trish and the dad against each other but in this very short time that he's been apart from sienna and trish he's gone to therapy he's realized the error of his ways and he's like i'm not here to take her away My daughter called and she was in jail. So I came, but I think you are a great mother and that she should be with you. He's the only person with sense so far in this motion picture. I'm gonna tell you that right now because literally he just.

Literally, Trish gives him the facts and he's like, what? Listen to this. Damn it, Wells. Where was this a year ago? I mean, you have no idea how long I have waited for you to say those words. I know. I know I wish I could have gotten here sooner, before you put down roots. He's a very nice man. Is he? He's amazing. His wife just died and he's still more together than I am. Is that admirable? I don't mean the man any disrespect.

I'm just saying, if my wife died, I'd be destroyed. Ding, ding, ding! If your wife died a month ago, you would not be playing house with your administrative assistant and her adult daughter. Unless you're a bad guy. Unless you're a sinister minister. Right? Okay? Cause it ain't making no sense. And Wells literally was like, and Wells didn't even say it to be mean. He was just like, no, the facts don't line up. This is not making any sense. He's like,

He's like, I'd be destroyed. Like I wouldn't have time for whatever game this is. So then they go outside. DJ pretend like you can tell DJ is like put off by him. He goes, he puts his arm around Trish staking his claim. Alpha. Peeing on his hydrant. And then he's like, you should join us for dinner tomorrow night. And then Wells leaves. He's like, okay. And then... DJ tells Trish he's totally fine with Wells coming to dinner. In fact, he wants to counsel them. All of them over dinner.

Why don't we counsel them over dinner? And Trish is literally like, you're amazing. And I said, Trish, you're the dumbest fool I ever met. Why doesn't she get that? This is totally inappropriate. She, and also just like. It's like, this is the thing, you know, Trish, she has not had a lot of experience. You know, when you have a child, it disrupts your...

life and apparently impacts the way your brain functions. A lot of moms I follow have been posting about like the changes to the brain and the body and you know it's like somebody posted where it's like I've been through two puberties apparently because it's like what happens in your body when you have a kid is similar. My point is is Trish had a kid at 15. I don't think she very bright. And I wouldn't say that about all teen mothers, but I'm trying to understand in this motion picture.

Why Trish has no sense. Yeah, and we really, because it's like the ex is bad, but then we see him and he's like... Now, obviously, that's not going to heal all her wounds immediately. But you see him and he's like, I'm sorry, I was wrong. I did bad. So it's you go, OK, well, that seems pretty validating. Like, can we cross off that trauma? Well, it's actually like.

Now we can like have a conversation. First of all, I said, Wells literally said, I've been in therapy for a year. It was all my fault. I said, can we get every man to whoever this therapist is? Thank you. A year? And he said, it's all my fault? Great. The world would be so good. And the world would be a better place. That song from Scrooged. Okay.

So then Sienna and Trish, they have a very brief heart to heart. Sienna wants her parents back together, but I think it's so she can have DJ all to herself. Well, see, I didn't even put that together, but I will say after he was like, you know, I would like to counsel us over dinner. I said, I cannot get to this dinner seat.

fast enough it's gonna be so awkward is what i thought but when i tell you guys guess what we don't have a dinner scene because the next thing we see is trish sitting at the dinner table crying because wells didn't show up and

DJ walks in, you know, it's like, I guess supposed to be time. Even though it's like, again, if you were supposed to be at dinner to counsel, wouldn't you have been there? Why are you at 90 minutes? Because it seems at least 90 minutes. Yeah. Because like 30 minutes, maybe Wells doesn't know it. An hour, but it's like. long time dj walks in he has a jacket on because he was outside then he takes the jacket off and he has this massive bloody scratch on him that's clearly

from Killing Wells. Hello. And I'm like, why didn't you just leave your jacket on? And then he's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I was gonna propose to you. What? I said, sir, your dead wife hasn't even decomposed. Okay? How is this? No one is well in this scenario. Okay? And were you gonna, was part of your counseling?

this estranged couple to propose to one of them. That's what I'm talking about. Then Trish, you know, and so she's like, well, why don't we just slow down for a second? And you think, okay, Trish, you guys, maybe you're, you know, not. Totally obsessed with this man. But then Trish goes to Sienna's room and finds a note on the bed that changes her tune. Listen to this, y'all. Mom.

I'm sorry to leave this in a note, but I've decided I have to leave. Don't worry, I'm with Dad. We're moving and I'm very safe. Please don't try to contact me. I'll reach out when I'm ready. I need time to grow without you. Love, Sienna. She's gone, DJ. She left me too. It's okay, honey. I ruined everything. Just everything. Hey, sweetie, sweetie, remember.

As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you. I want to get married, like you said. Don't worry about that now. No, I'm telling you. I want to get married as soon as possible. Now, if I could. I'm not gonna lose you too. Are you sure? I've never been more sure of anything in my life. This makes her want to get married? What?

in the trauma bond is this? I would forget someone proposed to me. But see, this is where I get confused, right? Because Sienna was at home thinking she was going to have dinner with the father. Father doesn't show up, Sienna goes to her bedroom. Okay, we get that. So then she like... goes out first of all she's got like french doors leading out to her bedroom if you notice it's like full doors which a wayward teen cannot have they can have no

Way to get outside. Exactly. Her windows have to be the kind that only crank in or out. Yes. That don't actually open all the way. I'd say put them in a walk-in closet and put a padlock on it. So she's, I guess, gone out her window. But at this point, though, I'm thinking... how did DJ lure Sienna out of the house without Trish knowing? Then I was like, okay, then maybe he took dad's cell phone and texted Sienna like,

I don't want to come, but I want you to be with me. Right. And got her to leave the house that way. You see what I'm saying? Cause you know, people love stealing cell phones and pretend to be other people in lifetime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. No passcode, no lock. I mean, he very well may have just been like.

hey, I love you, leave your mom. Like, he's sinister. Well, of course he's sinister, but this is where, but then, you guys, and this is where this movie for me, it's got too many character choices without the scenes that... justify them anyway yes because i don't because again i'm down with the twists and turns of a lifetime but i need a moment like i need to see more than just him giving her weed for her to like

run away to god knows where if it's for him yeah because like it's a teen they keep alluding to weed being legal but not for 18 year olds so it's like she can find weed like literally anywhere. You know, she does not need to be like yanking the minister's rosary, if you know what I mean. So we cut to Trish and DJ getting married. Now, this is what shocked me, Megan.

in front of the entire congregation at DJ's church. I said, this is the stuff you're supposed to do in Vegas. Your wife died six weeks ago. Eight weeks ago, maybe at most three months. I'm sorry. It's your second dead wife too. Yeah. Not just like tragic. It's like you've had two tragedies now. And like everyone in the church.

is happy and applauding. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. If this was a real church congregation, there would be way more side eye. And I would definitely be right up there in the second row like, this Reverend ain't right. This Reverend ain't right. His wife just died. I started to be like, this is like a cult then because they almost, you know, it's giving Gwen Shamblin of like, let's have eight people get married at once. And everyone's like, yeah. And no one's like, what?

because it does not make any sense. I would like to take a moment. You know, we talk a lot about the wigs of Lifetime that it is important to know. And I think this was done purposely. Trisha's obviously a gorgeous woman. She's on Lifetime. Her hair, which is her natural hair, is always a mess. Like, it's always, like... fresh from I don't know like she went to sleep with it wet put it in a ponytail took it down like and I think that's supposed to show like

She's distraught. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's overwhelmed. She's distraught. She can't. She can't do anything. If you can't find a flat iron, it must mean you're going through it. And it's just so funny. But at the wedding, she's got it smooth. Like, she took care for this wedding, but she seems so sad. She's crying. She's crying. She is holding back, like, devastation tears. Not crying like, I'm getting married crying.

Where is my daughter? Like, it is like, it's painful to watch. Yeah. And then we learned, basically, it's been a month. since, you know, Sienna left that note and Trisha only gets one word text replies from her. And I said, classic stolen phone responses, because if you, you can't do a lot of words or else they're going to know, oh, that's not how this person talks. So whenever you've stolen someone's phone, you gotta give them.

One room replies. Yeah. And then we have a scene with two hikers who find a hand sticking out of the ground in the desert. This is why we don't hike. You ain't getting me out. I walk around my neighborhood. Off the beaten path? No, thank you. There's a reason why the path has not been beaten. Okay.

And then meanwhile, DJ and Trish are at a restaurant and he is happy as a clam. I'm like dying. But then also you can kind of see his mask starting to fall off. You guys listen to this. You think we should do a mini moon or a full honeymoon? I'm thinking full. Wait a few months and then just go all out. I'm no Catholic, but man, I'd love to see the Sistine Chapel. Have you ever been to Italy? Where? All around?

Did you go all over Italy or just hit the highlights? Italy? No, I've never... Damn it, Trish. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm just... Distracted, yeah, I know. I think if you put yourself in my shoes... Here we go, because it's all about you. It's not all about me, DJ. My daughter is... Is gone. Yeah, yeah, I heard that. I don't think you did or you wouldn't be talking to me in the stone. This...

is our wedding, Patricia. This is our time. You're right. You're right. Trish, look. You're my wife. I love you. You mean everything to me. I should mean everything to you. You do. Of course you do. That's all I'm saying. honeymoon or a mini moon that was like me you know like he's like he's just like kind of be but

It's weird because usually and like at this point, I think we all assume he's like killed all his wives. He's probably going to kill Trish. Usually you get married and then they become like a monster. Right. It's like they got married and he's like, isn't this fun? So that's kind of.

of an interesting twist but it's because he is going to go on to terrorize her but it's also like it doesn't make any sense to me where I'm like you thought that you would send her daughter away and that she would be a fun person to be with.

Again, a lot of this does not check out because we're going to find out more. Because basically, you know, Trish is like, I'm not going to stop until I get my daughter back. And you can see this. The camera kind of pushes in on DJ being like, oh, Lord. No. And this is going to be not without my daughter? Exactly.

I thought this was going to be bad mom. She's like, she like goes to the bathroom and then DJ orders two more glasses of wine. And I said, he about to drug a beverage and cut to him carrying a wasted disoriented Trish into her bedroom. And she like goes and throws up. And meanwhile, we see the two cops, the cops who had booked Sienna earlier for her weed. We see her now at the crime scene. I said, y'all got a lot to handle. You're handling drug offenses as well as homicides.

Okay. Well, Brightside, how big you think the squadron is? I know. It's probably just those two, right? They probably have tanks. You know, all these small communities have. Tanks. And they're like, let's take the helicopter. Let's take the helicopter. And he's like, why do you have this? And they find, they see John Wells' ID. So again, we knew the hand was Wells. We knew Wells. As soon as he didn't come to dinner, he was murdered. But you know, the cops find it.

Then we see a flash. And this is what I mean. This movie had some editing problems. Because we see a quick flash of what looks like DJ bringing Sienna flowers. Yes. Which is, you said, I think this is real. I'm like, it is real. But then we cut to Trish having a nightmare about Luke. Losing Sienna. As a child. Right. Like a child Sienna. It's like this flash moment where I was like, okay, y'all like...

I know y'all don't get a lot of time to make these movies, but you got to get your coverage, babes. You got to get your coverage because the story's not stitching together. Yeah, it was, I did think the way she, because her and Sienna are playing hide in the nightmare. And like four or five year old Sienna are playing hide and seek. And Sienna gets under the bed covers and she's like, where's Sienna? And she pulls up the bed covers and she's not there. And I got really sad and scared. Really?

Yeah. I felt it. I thought it was very effective. And then she wakes up and I'm almost wondering if she's been asleep. Cause again, the last time we saw her was after he drugged her drink and she threw up. So I'm wondering if it's been a couple of days, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't just the next morning.

Feels like it's been over 24 hours. Right. And she's like, and he's trying to feed her food. He's like, you have the flu. She's like, I need to go to a doctor. He's like, no, you don't. It's the flu. And it's like, okay. He's so adamant. And it's like. Well, at first you said it was like, it was because she drank too much. Because like, he is like, you're a lightweight now. And now it's the flu. Like, it's like that.

And she's even saying, like, the food doesn't taste right. And he's like, when you're sick, none of the food tastes right. And it's like, you know when else food don't taste right? when it's been poisoned, okay? And I just feel like this is my problem. DJ has no chill and is not subtle in the fact that his wives keep dying and he gets with someone else within days where I go, how have you even gotten away with this this long? Because you're not even a person who like...

moves, has a fresh start, takes like a year between women. Like he's literally, he's just saying congregation. He's like, listen, I need to keep my job. And I'll just kill people around me. And we also don't have any, there's been no seeds planted as to why DJ would want to be killing his wives. Thank you. Cause I am waiting. This is where I get annoyed. I go. Are we going to find out Betsy or Trish?

has like a two million dollar life insurance policy like there's no information that explains why these women of all these women because like lord knows trish out here working in a diner on struggle street right this ain't the person you's trying to just be like

Let's go to Italy. It's like Trish literally does not have a passport. You're going to have to fund that. And like she can't. She can't function. Now, it's important to remember that I still believe that Betsy's death is staged. At this point in the. motion picture okay okay so i'm like when is that nugget gonna come to fruition where's betsy well you now okay so this is what you still think now what happens when you see this next scene which is

Sienna alone in what looks like a motel room. Maybe it's an apartment. You know how LA apartments also look like gross motels? No, but this was like the outside was cinder blocks. Usually cinder blocks inside, outside you protect. This looked like a shed. It looked like a studio apartment in a shed. Well, Sienna is alone in this studio apartment in a shed. She's bored. And then DJ comes in with Chinese food takeout and they kiss.

Y'all, y'all, I just wrote in all caps, ew, everyone is terrible. That's what I felt. That's what I felt. And like, and they are. fully playing house. He knows what kind of Chinese food she likes. And at this point, I'm like, okay, whoa. So they start to have a conversation and he is totally.

playing Sienna and Trish against each other. He's telling, Sienna's like, I think I need to reach out to my mom. And he's like, she doesn't want to see you. She doesn't want to talk to you. We know that's the exact opposite. She's furiously trying to find her.

Listen. Sienna, I thought we already talked about it. What? Darling, the last time I brought any of this up, she said she didn't want to talk to you, she didn't want to talk about you, and she got completely furious. Yeah, well, she can stay mad at me forever. Sienna, I know you don't like to hear this, but your mother's very emotional, very controlling, and she just won't accept you doing what you want with your life. Last time we spoke, she said things I can't even repeat.

Honey, I'll be leaving her soon and then you and I can live together the way we want. Like what? Like what sort of things did she say that you can't even repeat? I don't want to make you any more angry at your mother than you already are. DJ, I'm 18. I'm a grown woman. Okay. She said she's disappointed with the way you turned out. She thinks you've always been unreliable. You're born that way and she's done with you now. Okay. It's like, what? Sienna thinks DJ and like...

Because I'm like, why would she be with her mom's boyfriend? But it seems like she's under the impression that DJ and her mom have broken up, right? I don't think so.

Because she's like, just a little longer, I need to get this stuff sorted with your mom. But this is what I mean. I'm like, why did you even marry her in the first place? You didn't need to marry her to get with her daughter. Right. That's actually the opposite. The opposite. That's the thing. It's like, you pushed a marriage, but you wanted to be with a teen.

This is the thing I don't get. So at this point, I'm like, see, I know it from despising DJ. Again, what we've seen. She thinks he's creepy. She laughs at his eulogy. Then they exchange phone numbers. He gives her weed. And now she's in love with him even as he is dating her mother? Ran away from her home to hide in a tornado shelter in love with him. I just was like...

okay, well, I kind of think nobody here is good. I don't think Trish is very bright. I think Sienna, think about this. Sienna is the daughter from hell. We actually could have called this movie daughter from hell instead of sinister minister, because the fact that she would do that to her mother.

I was like, your mother did nothing but try to do right by you, even as a teen who didn't have anything. Okay? She literally is out here scrimping and saving and moving y'all to a town called Brightside because she want to look on the bright side. And you gonna get with her man, Sienna? Who's gross.

So DJ goes home. Well, which home? How many places he live in, Megan? You got to clarify. I know. I was about to say he leaves the tornado shelter and he goes to Trish's home. Trish is there with the cops. And. They have found Wells' body. That's why they're there. But, you know, it makes DJ be like, the cops are here. Then suddenly DJ cops too. Oh yeah, no, I actually, I've seen Sienna. Um, yeah, she, we saw her, I don't know. I think it was in like a parking garage and the lady.

The female detective who looks exactly like Trish, I'm guessing she was up for the part two. And they were like, you can be the lady detective. And she was like, I'll take it, which is what I would do. We all got to work. But, you know, you can't work when you're on strike. So he's like, I don't know. I think it was. She's like, you don't remember where you saw your missing stepdaughter. And like, she's.

very confused by this. Well, she's looking his side eye. She's giving him, she's giving DJ side eye the whole time he talks. She's like, you do not add up. No. And then he says Sienna's living in the city with an older guy, which I mean, that seems plausible actually.

But then Trish is like, give me the, give me the phone. Like you can, you've been talking to you and my daughter's number. You've had her this whole time and you won't tell me where she is. You didn't tell me you saw her. Like, so that again, it's more like Trish, like. Aren't you putting together that, if nothing else, DJ may not be a good person? Like, you may not think he does it, but he's like, you've been out here crying yourself to sleep.

Lost your mind. Can't think straight over your child. And if what he's saying is true, even if the lie is true, he ain't the one. Okay? But then Trish, she's like, give me your phone. She calls. Sienna. From his from. from his phone. And Sienna answers the phone. Hello, Mr. Minister, man. And Trish doesn't even clock it. And then Trish is like, Trish does not clock it. She's like, Sienna is mom.

I'm like, I'm sorry. That would be the first. I'm like, why'd she call you? Why'd she be a sexy Michelle? No, it's like truly Marilyn Monroe. Happy birthday, Mr. President. Like it is so crazy. And Trish is like. Your dad is dead. And Sienna, click, hangs up immediately. What? Yeah. Oh, boy. And then when the detective is trying to do her job and just, like, get some details, Trisha's like, get out!

Like she's the problem. Thank you. I was like, I'm sorry. You need to be telling DJ to get out of here because nothing is making any sense. And then we cut to like Trish on the couch. DJ's like force feeding her food. Obviously he's slowly. drugging her we're getting flashes of betsy being sickly remember so it's like yes he's obviously slowly poisoning her and then he leaves probably to go over to see sienna and then trish like gets up and she's walking and once we do see her like

chugging from a bottle of wine. And I said... I said, okay, Trish, that's not helping. The poisoning and the wine should not be going hand in hand. Like, I know you're stressed. She's like, listen, I need to drink. I can't take it out of the bottle because I'll poison it. So I'm just going to drink straight from the bottle. And then she opens up a kitchen cupboard and there's just like obviously a virus.

that he's using to poison her. And it's like, why are you just hiding the poison and not even hiding it? You're just putting it where the baking sheets are? I know. So it's like, it's like right there at eye level. And then Trish hears something outside. And this I thought was hysterical. She finds our lady detective whose name is, I keep calling her lady detective because her.

Her actual character name is Detective Man. So I'm like, it's not Detective Man, it's Lady Detective. And she's like searching the shed outside the house. And when Trish is like, what are you doing here? She's like, oh, you found me. Like, she's like, so cool, so calm. Has no backup. She has no backup. She's just poking around. Trish is like, you can't just search people's homes without a warrant. And she's like, well, outside structures, it's a little murky. He's like, what? And then.

The detective gives Trish some info, mentions how his second wife's death didn't seem like an actual accident. And listen, it is. Two wives? A man twice widowed before the age of 50. It's not the norm, is it? What do you want to know, detective? Did DJ have any issue with the reappearance of your ex? He was very happy to have him here. He offered to counsel us. To counsel you? You mean to get you back together like marriage counseling? Buzz didn't show up. To your counseling session with DJ.

Because he was dead. I don't know. Of course. Yeah, we don't know either. When a body decays like that, it's hard to know precisely when a person died. We just get arranged is all. Did you love your ex husband Trish? Do you still? DJ's a perceptive man, Trish. I'm guessing he would have gotten the feeling that I'm getting right about now. Balzo's a real fly in his ointment. But hey.

Like you said, he was real cool about you too. It was great. Of course, it's hard to know what a person's really thinking. What's really going on behind the eyes? He's a good man. DJ or Wells. All right, well, I'll leave you to it. When DJ comes back, let him know I'd love to chat with him. About what? About his wonderful life. DJ loves me, and he's taking care of me like a saint. He's the only good thing in my life, detective. You might want to think about why that is, Trish. Okay.

Now, this is the moment. This is the moment I realize the beginning of the film said three years later, not three years earlier. But we are now at one hour 16. Yeah, you got 10 minutes left in the movie. It cleared up a lot of confusion. I had to go back to that scene and I go. So now I'm like, even though all of this chaos is happening, it's all looking for me. And now I found peace. And suddenly it also starts to click for Trish.

Trish also thought she was three years earlier. And so we see her. She pours the vial of liquid down the sink. The poison in the sink. She puts her food down the sink. And then she goes to Sinister Minister's laptop. It is password protected. A first. And she's typing in all sorts of passwords. Her name. No.

Jesus Christ. No. And she's like, well, those are his top two. And then she goes, Sienna. And she uses her daughter's name to try and open it. And guess what? Her daughter's name is the password to her husband's computer. And then she finds on the computer that the goodbye note that Sienna had left that night was written by him. And I scream because I said, why you save it?

That's a one and done situation. That's a one and done. So he saved the goodbye note that he typed. And also, I also was like, once I saw it was also a typed note, I said, oh, we know Sienna wouldn't have done. Sienna wasn't up in here typing and printing her nose. She was scrolling that on the back of a half-used receipt. That's the Sienna we know. The moment I saw it typed, I would have been like, that's not Sienna. That's not Sienna. It's so truly hilarious. He also has it.

in a folder marked like important or like do not open it's like what you should just label everything different parts of the bible you damn idiot i say as someone who didn't realize the timetable of the movie until 30 seconds ago. So after she sees this, Trish immediately calls Lady Detective, Detective Man, but gets her voicemail. Lady Detective Detective Man is so funny. But she gets her voicemail, which is so funny.

And then it seems like Trish, remember, who has been slowly poisoned over the course of several days. Yes. She's, like, in, you know, sweat, like, pajamas. Like, she's, like, in, you know, an oversized shirt and sweat. pants and she's looking haggard honey and it seems like she jogs all the way to this motel where sienna's been hiding because she also sees that on the computer she like sees a map of like the bright side in or something stupid too which i was like also i'm like wait also

You don't remember where you're keeping your zombies? You had to put a screen grab of the map? You're printing. You're map questing. But weed is legal? I don't think those things line up. And so... Trish like manages to get there. I don't know how she knew which door was Sienna's, but she did. Let's just go with it. There's a lot we've got to suspend. Okay. And she's like banging on the door. Sienna won't open the door, which is like, what? But then she, she's like,

honey, he's been doing all of this, you know, whatever. And then finally Sienna lets her mom in just in time for her to collapse on the couch. Like Trisha's used her final breaths, okay, to like run a mile and get to her child. But now I see, because at first I was like, why aren't you opening the door? But then, who emerges from the back? From the bathroom, I assumed. Shirt, you know, fully open.

but DJ. And he takes Sienna's, cause Sienna's phone is like on the counter and he takes it before she can get to it. So she can call the cops. Meanwhile, lady detective, detective man gets a call and it's like, why didn't y'all patch her through to me? Which I think is so true. So funny. Someone's losing their job because detective man was just at this woman's house. Right? So that woman calls you within 30 minutes, an hour of you visiting her.

She got some important information. Yeah. You got to be on call. You got to be on call. You got to be, you need to be to the direct line. Yes. And so the detective and backup, they knock, they're like, get to the motel. They knock on the door and Sienna.

this is what i didn't get sienna doesn't because they're like who's in there we're coming in what's going on but they're just quiet and dj is basically like whispering to sienna this is all gonna look like it's your fault you're the one who did this to your mother i was just here trying to help her like he's basically trying to pretty much talk sienna out of turning him in

Yeah, manipulate her into believing it's her fault. At this point, who has the knife? Because there is a butcher knife. Yes, Sienna grabs it. Okay. She's got it on him, and he's basically talking. The manipulation is to get the knife from her. Yes. So he manipulates the knife away. But I don't know why Sienna didn't just.

scream out he's in here or my mom is sick like right you didn't need to physically let them in for that to happen especially because there's no gun in the room yet thank god so she basically turns Anne does open the, he's like, don't say anything or I'll, like, once he has the knife, he puts it on her. Right. And he's like, don't say anything or I'll kill you. And so she opens the door and she's like, my mom is in here and he's like, and he's bad.

And they're like, yeah, we know. We know. Exactly. Exactly. And so they cuff DJ, get Trish to a hospital. We see Trish come to. Sienna's sitting by her side. You know, when she wakes up, they hug and say they're going to get the hell out of Brightside. And it's like the town is not the problem. The main problem is DJ.

But I'd say a secondary problem is both of your decision-making. Absolutely. Your decision-making, you know what it should be? Instead of being like, we're going to get out, they should be like, we're going to both get the hell into therapy. Because it's like, y'all both got some issues y'all need to work out. Yes. I mean, I could, this one was wild. I will say it, I think it lived up to the title Sinister Minister, even though I would still call it Deadly Daughter.

I might call it Deadly Daughter instead. We also never learn why DJ wants to kill his wives. Right. We also don't understand what he wants from Sienna. Well. We know what all men want from 18-year-old girls, unfortunately. Well, that's what it is, but it seems like whatever the new woman is is the woman he wants, right? So first, Betsy's a new woman, and they're okay. Then he meets someone new. It's like, I'm surprised he can even go to a grocery store.

Or attend a concert. Because if it's like any woman he looks at, he falls in love with it. I don't get it. But you know how we usually get like that, like. Remember when the mom was like yelling at the kid to like wash his hands for like, that's what Jesus wanted. Or it'll be like, oh, my parents were fighting. DJ, there's zero backstory. So I guess he's just like a sociopath that marries people to kill them?

This is my thing. I was like, we needed a monologue. I was like, we had this moment. I wanted our killer monologue in the hotel room and we never got it. We got no monologue. You're so right. That's what I'm saying. The movie was missing scenes. We needed a couple key. turns laid out. And normally we would have had a moment in that hotel room where DJ had a knife on Sienna explaining his entire backstory. Yes. Okay, do you have a real hero or a real villain?

sinister minister okay the only hero is the dead dad john wells yes because he is a man who did a year of therapy and then came to a woman and said you know what i am sorry it was all my fault right and he really gave her space too like he did not come back until he was like I am healed. Let's make this work. And he wasn't even trying to push. Like, even when he saw DJ, he was like, okay, whatever. Like, you're gonna do you. Like, John, dead dad John was not coming in trying to flex. Yeah.

Absolutely. He's the only hero. Everybody else was a villain. Yes. Everybody is. Yeah. A villain we didn't even like really clock that much. The diner owner. So mean. What a mean man. And the diner was called like. friendly jimmies and it's like the meanest man also there was the black friend that we could not tell if it was the same black friend now i'm thinking it might be i don't think bright side has that many black women but

A co-worker at the diner who's on screen for maybe 10 seconds. I thought we were going to get more of her. Is a lifetime queen who was in Secrets in the Snow. And then also the one about, she plays Brea. She plays a little Brea. Yeah. She's the one in like my husband's deadly past or whatever. I can't believe they got her to come in for half a day. Not even. That's why when you said there were scenes missing, I'm like, Brea must have been in more. Yeah. Yeah. But she wasn't. Well.

So I'm giving her a hero for saying, yes, I'll come and hold a coffee pot. Not all heroes wear capes. You guys, next week, we're coming to you with our final episode. And I just want to warn everyone, now I am going to cry. We're really, really sad. And I hope you felt that from our very scripted announcement. But like, you know, we work for a company.

They say, do this. And you say, we're doing it. We're devastated. And your messages have been so sweet. And those have been like, you know, we've known for a bit this was happening. But then for you all to find out. you know, it's reopened the wounds a bit. So we appreciate the messages, but it's also sad. And and hard for us. And my dog died the same day that the announcement went out. So I just we're not ignoring. And then did you remember my cat died two days, three days after we found out?

The first time internally. So the timing, the vibes of all this, you know what I mean? Maybe there's some real villains amongst us. Anyway, next week, our final episode is Deadly Mom Retreat. Yes! While going through a difficult divorce, newly single mom Jules, oh, classic lifetime name, jumps at the chance for some R&R when her new besties invite her to...

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