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Hi guys, it's Mads here. Just to apologize for a little bit of background noise you're going to hear in this episode, but we hope you enjoy nonetheless. Let us begin! Hello and welcome to I'll ask my sister, the advice podcast for the cosmic makes the corporate. I'm Ellen Hooper, an executive coach, and I'm joined by my sister Mads Williams, a human design coach. Hello. We've just spoken for an hour already, but how are you going? I'm going. Well, I'm going.

Well it's funny, I was reviewing an episode of ours yesterday and you started by saying, I am your host and then you just introduce me as your sister. I was like, oh, is that how we're playing it? So I wasn't sure today whether I was gonna be. Co host, sister, design, human design or coach or whatever it's going to be. But anyway, That's what I'm your host has got a very like, and this is your life. have you had a cosmic or a corporate week? have had both.

Uh, You called it one time, I think it was on the cutting room floor, that you called it a CC, a Cosmic Corporate Week.

Oh, God. Yeah, I've had a corporate week because I'm very, I've got a lot on, I'm very busy, but also I've got this tension of being reminded of the priorities in life, so, , one of my best friends, had a parent pass away, just recently, and I think that always puts things in perspective for you about what's most important and it's really important to me to be there, for the funeral in a country town.

So I'm also then trying to work, , really hard to like sort everything out so that I can make time for that. So just this juxtaposition of being like I'm so aware of the important things in life and I've been kind of slowing down and, being kind to myself and treasuring time with my family and also being like, Hmm, if I need to move that meeting, how will I fit that in? Maybe I should cancel the hairdresser, like just doing a little bit of both of those things at the same time.

So, I always feel like there's a kind of cosmicness to knowing what's most important in life. I think so. And even as you're talking, I'm like, it's really fascinating. Cause yesterday I spontaneously responded to an invitation to do some modeling, And you know, that's one of my dreams. Is to model, Yeah. underwear model or just model. Oh, no. Underwear sounds really bad, but in like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry to be hogging this thing.

That's for you because Yeah, it's like, you know, sometimes they say creativity comes through to anyone who's open. It's like, maybe it's trying to get to you. But I'm like, sure, I'm open. I'll take it. You're like sponging around. Well, there's this interesting thing, you know, we've talked about it before, but sometimes you might kinesiology. Yeah. sessions, the link between us comes up. interesting. Tell me more about So a worry will come up, which I'm like, that's weird.

And then it will be yours. definitely, as soon as we finish recording, I'm going to be like, tell me everything I'm worried about, but maybe that was from months ago, But the reason I brought up the modeling was that. you're a routine person by nature. I'm a spontaneous person by nature. And so I like to keep my calendar quite open so that when that came up, I was like, Oh yeah, I just have to rearrange one Reiki appointment.

But other than that, I was like, everything else can, like, Amazingly, I, my clients already needed to reschedule. So it's all happening today, but my point is like fascinating thinking about you and busyness and like having space, but maybe approaching it in a different way to me. So like we've talked about before, like your calendar literally being like, I am blocking out space for magic. I don't know how or when, but like it can happen between 11 and two. I'm not sure. Something to try.

Well, I was in a board meeting the other day and one of my fellow directors looked at my calendar and said, Oh my God, See, it's not just me. And you got so, so sad at me the other day on the podcast. I was like, it is insane. Even corporates, even corporates get a shook. I thought of you immediately and thought how funny that was.

The other thing is I'm about to go on a holiday and I can't hold on to the holidays and one of the reasons I was saying to the sport director is, well, I know that the diary is really blocked out, but you know, every school drop off and every pickup and every travel, it is all in there. So yeah, I take a lot of holidays. Can be easier than kind of protecting time throughout the hustle and bustle of life. Yeah. Fascinating.

We go on an insane amount of holidays, so I can never be an employee again. Never ever again. Okay. I'm ready for you now. You can ask me Have you had a CC? Have you had a class week or a corporate week? I have had a very cosmic week. In fact you once talked about how sometimes emotional processing means that it's a good sign you can't quite remember. I'm like, Oh, what am I wanting to tell you? I feel like so much has kind of unfolded to be like, you're heading in the right.

Direction for your love and affection. Okay. I was like, how much of that am I going to commit to the whole sentence? I also think that's a sign of alignment for you when you're singing on the pond. yeah, good point. Good point. Sorry, listeners. Good point though. it's been a really big full moon, lots of letting go. I honestly played Frozen, let it go for two and a half hours on repeat the other night.

And half of that was like belting in front of the mirror, but like not really because there were people around, but pretending to and then just like lying in bed, listening to it. Really recommend if you are trying to just like move some shit along. But this is the cosmic thing. I'm really excited that, and you're going to be like, why are you saying this on the podcast?

But I've been skirting around this for quite a while and it seems something I've been trying to explore and it's this notion of almost like spirituality within sexuality and it's like something I haven't quite been able to like, put my finger on, but I can like feel the magnetic pool and the obsession. And, and for context, I'm a one three as my personality profile.

And so what that means is like the one gets really fixated and likes to research and like, no, it likes to be armed with the tools to feel safe. And then three is all about experimenting and implementing. And it's almost like, Hey, Guys, don't worry. Let me do the groundwork. I'll learn about it. I'll test it. So like you don't have to do it. I'll let you know what's like worth it or not.

That's kind of what, when I'm in alignment, my energy field should kind of reinforce And my three's on the inside and yours is on the outside. So people see me experimenting, evolving, changing. And that's why I'm constantly like, yeah, I tried that course. Didn't work. I'm not going to promote it. Or I tried that service, you know, no longer. It's very public. Ellen's going through that evolution too, just luckily she gets to do it behind closed doors.

She's not as messy as I would say I come across as, um, I'll just hide my mess from all of exactly. And like, look, I love mine now. I've come to own it. It keeps my life really interesting, but certainly don't expect other people to, to live always the same way as I do. Unless I'm peer pressuring you into a response in the listener question, but you know, I had this like really cool connection with someone who actually like didn't live in London.

And so it's been like really nice because I felt like the beginning of this year has been like a huge, like growth in sexual energy and it's really easy, I think, to. Put that down to like the other person, right? Like it's coming from them or it's something you're creating together. And of course that is all true. But recently I was like, Oh, that's come from within me, right? Like that is the, reminder that we're like constantly trying to, well, not everybody, but where are you outsourcing?

Where are you trying to outsource your validation or your love or your success or fulfillment? And so I just was like, Oh, I don't have to outsource my connection to my sensuality and sexuality. I can do that myself, but all that to say is that there is this amazing course about female sexuality that I thought only ran in January, but there's one starting in June. July, so I just signed up and I can't wait. And I'm like so buzzy about it. So watch this space. It's like an outrageous name.

So I'm not going to mention it on the pod, but if you are interested, seriously, slide into the DMs cause I'll tell you all about it. but the reason why I'm so cosmic is because it was quite a large investment up front. And I am doing a payment plan and I had this feeling of, and like I mentioned up top, like I had a Reiki session books that I booked the day before. And so I've been working a lot on unblocking my limiting beliefs around money and bringing in money.

So I say this also with the disclaimer of like. Ellen's going to step in with the practical skills. Like don't be completely irresponsible, but also being like very much intentionally playing with energetics around finances. So I was like, you know what? My generator joy is so drawn to this course. And I am just going to experiment and trust that I am doing all the things I need to, to be welcoming money in. So having that.

Abundance mindset while also doing the practical steps to be available to receive money. So offering, you know, services and work. And so I was like, I'm going to follow this because it's the only thing right now I know is what I like want. So I, yeah, booked the Reiki. Put the deposit down and then I woke up in the morning, got invited to this shoot and it was the exact same amount of money that I had spent the day before.

So those are my cosmic moments where I go, okay, I am actually getting in alignment. The uni is being like, here you go. Keep going. Keep doing you. Keep releasing. Keep stepping into self. Like. Don't worry about the external validation. It has to come from within. And weeks like this make me sing on the podcast. Is have you ever read the book Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski? that like C U M? Are we talking sexual stuff here or no? Oh, it is.

Okay. I mean, it's spelled with an O M E, but that's what it means. Okay. Everyone of all genders should read this amazing book. So she's a expert and academic in female sexuality. So heaps of really useful science based stuff about how everything that we know about women's bodies is totally Amazing. I Great book, highly recommend. Also available in podcast form. yeah, I will listen via audio for sure. Excellent. I mean, I haven't finished it, but highly Classic.

That's so that I've read the back and it about it in a book club, so I know everything I need to Okay. Do you have a question for me? I do have a question. I have a recycled question from last week. Cause I ended up asking you something else. So it's more of a concept that I'm going to work through with you. And I have a quote to assist. So I recently had quite a few people say to me that you're making a lot of assumptions. You are into that? I'm so into that.

I think it is that like safety thing, right? It makes me feel safe to assume that someone is playing out like the role I have created them in my mind. And the quote I'm going to read from a niece Nim, which I saw probably as the last thing before I went to bed last night is we don't see the world as it is. We see it as we are. Which I think is so massive with assumptions, but sometimes I'm like, is it assumption or is that me? Like quite literally like tapped into some intuitive force.

It's like, Oh no, actually I can feel that energy from that person. That's like where they're at. That's what they need. That's who they are. And,, does it actually just like bring me back to self in a way that is useful? It's pretty tricky because the executive coach in me thinks most of us work on the assumption that people want what we want or communicate in the way that we communicate or respond. In the way that we respond.

So I've actually been having quite a few conversations in different workplaces at the moment about the idea of venting or complaining. how much we can kind of complain and what complaining means to us is a spectrum. So some of us. don't like to complain at all. And some of us like to complain a lot. So if you like to complain a lot, like I do, then when I'm complaining to someone ,who doesn't like to complain a lot, I think they walk away thinking, Oh, Ellen was really upset about that.

Whereas I'll just be like, Oh, that was cool. I processed that. They might ask me about it a week later and I'll be like, what are you talking about? That was fine. So I don't know, do you have a special talent and skill? Um, maybe, This is not helpful. Give me more, please. Yeah, it's tricky , because I think the other piece of research is that we are really, bad also at reading other people's emotions.

we are constantly reading other people's emotions, but when the scientists compare that to what you say you were feeling, there's very often a mismatch. but if you ask people, then we overlay two things, which is not many people are actually very good at knowing how they feel, and to even if they are, are they good at then articulating that to you and on this way. So, I very complicated. Yeah, that's, that's landed for me because I'm like, Oh.

I was reading too much or reading into what I thought was going to play out or whatever, But I think what's nice is when going back a few months ago, I had this real commitment to holding everyone in the highest intention.

And I think that is really helpful with the assumption piece, because I think it's easy to make assumptions, like you were saying, we expect people to respond the way we would, but even more so than that, it's like all those limiting beliefs or things that are going on in our background, like, we also paint them out to be the hero or the villain or the whatever, based on like, um, how we see the world.

So I think actually for me personally, like, okay, well, if I have a say in that, if I get to like script my world, that highest intention, you know, it's just like a bit of a deep exhale and a release, for me rather than anyone else, but. But also we've talked a lot about holding people up to their past versions of self doesn't do anyone any good doesn't allow room for evolution. So it's yeah, out with the assumptions. Or if I am going to keep assuming, cause that is probably a default.

It's like, I might as well assume the good. But I also was having a conversation with my friend Annie last night. , and she was laughing at me cause she was like. I think you might be addicted to self development. And I was like, I'm addicted. I was like, no, I was like, it's literally my work, but it's true. Like right now I'm spending quite a lot of time alone. And every last moment I'm like, Oh, opportunity for growth. , and like the other day, mom was like, do you just need to have some fun?

And I was like, Oh, fun, fun, because I have joy. Oh my gosh, you're becoming Yes, I know I in a very different way, but like, not that I, I'd love to become you. I'm like, that means I can go on holidays. But it is very different. Like, it's like, I've locked myself up in my tower a little bit and I'm like doing all the work internally, but I think that also drives you a bit bananas.

there's kind of that like monastery idea, which is, yeah, I can probably become a really evolved, perfect person in my, but maybe the harder thing is to live out in the world and interact with people and. I think I need that. And even this really beautiful friend said to me the other day, I don't see her very often and I, I've never actually heard anyone say this to me, but cause I don't drink anymore. And I'm like body as a temple.

She was like, you're probably just existing at quite a high frequency. So like, trying to date is probably hard. Cause it might feel like people's frequencies heavier. it did kind of help of just, Oh yeah, I am doing life slightly differently. Which is totally fine, but I probably do want to get back in the world to be like, cool, how do I stay present and like, not miss out? Just like in meditation all day long. you'd like to ask your sister?

Yes. I just wanted to know what are your thoughts on, on navigating grief and does human design have any tools for that? I think there's something interesting that I wanted to add, which is having navigated grief in workplaces quite a lot particularly kind of being in head of HR roles um, um, Having a bit of a tool kit for what happens when someone dies, not physically at work, although that can happen too. God, I'm such a bummer.

but when, Sorry I just gave you and Ellen like a judgy, why are you laughing at this? But we're removing judgment and it's your nervous, it's your nervous tic and it's I am the kind of guy who laughs at a funeral as the bare naked ladies would say um, yeah, I think working in HR you do have a playbook for what you do in workplaces when.

When someone dies and the thing I want to share is what I noticed the most is that the people who knew that person at work are so intent on kind of relegating their grief. You know, I wasn't their mom or sister or best friend and therefore my grief's not as important. And it's interesting because I am having this kind of grief. A secondhand grief experience right now this week.

And I just, yeah, my lived experience of supporting other people through that in workplaces I think sets me in pretty good stead of going, yeah, it is actually sad and I am sad about it and it is someone I knew and I'm really sad for my friend and you know, also it's just like a beautiful person who raised. one of the people whose friendship I value the most. Like I owe them a great debt in a lot of ways. Yeah. So yeah. What do you think about grief? What are your recommendations for grief?

It is actually such a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful topic and it's feel so heavy and sad. or maybe it feels so sad and like heart expanding that we, we put it into heavy. But I think any kind of energy momentum, like grief is , like a wave. It really like wants to come through. It doesn't, I was speaking to someone about grief the other day , in the sense of water. And it's like. We release so much with tears.

Whereas if you think about frozen water, you're just kind of holding it all in your body, like an iceberg and actually like it does need to be. Um, and I couldn't help but think about some of my other spiritual coaches I've been involved with or seen and that notion that like, we are actually like, we are literally one. I know that feels so woo, but we are, we're so connected and. And so of course you're tapping into something that like you can feel the grief from your friend for your friend.

For what that would mean in your life. Like we inherently, like we're talking about assumptions. , we cannot help with a, with the main characters of our movies. Like I put things in perspective and it goes, Oh my God, where are my relationships at? , So I think, certainly. Not shaming what you're feeling. And I think also that thing like you laugh at a funeral, I have an incredibly open design in terms of human design.

So I will be disproportionately upset at a funeral, whether I've met the person or not, cause I'm quite literally absorbing everything in the room. And I hate funerals for that reason, because I always feel it's really inappropriate that I'm. responding so drastically, but I , I also kind of know it's not mine. I I'm feeling it also. knowing your design can actually be quite helpful to go, okay, well where do I want to process this?

Like, maybe I don't want to show this to my friend right now because I want to honor their grease. So I'm going to do this privately or whatever it might be. And that I think is what you're describing your colleagues are trying to do, right? They're trying to be like, don't make this. I'm not making this about me, but it's still really that there needs to be a safe space. So I think safe space is massive.

And then just also from a human design perspective, just cause you asked me, I wouldn't necessarily jump here, but like, you can look at areas in the chart, like what your emotions are doing and what your spleen is doing. So your solar plexus and the spleen center, because they govern emotions and fears. And so sometimes when things like this happen, our sense of uncertainty can be really ramped up. And so we can also slip into a lot of fear. And so there can be like.

That needs to be processed and looked at, , in terms of like running out of time or, , what you might not achieve before you pass away. Or could this happen to someone in my family? All these things. So again, not shaming anything, just acknowledging like, okay, the outside world does have an impact on on our, inherent like makeup in terms of human design. , and again, that that emotional center, are you absorbing a lot?

But , from having friends who have lost parents and, , it's absolutely in no way the same thing, but processing heartbreak, all this stuff does, if you let it crack you open a bit more to even more love and softness. But also there's just no, linearity, is that even the word, not sure, but, , we had this really beautiful group call on my program the other day, and, Everyone was talking about grief in some way, either they'd just lost someone or as an anniversary or someone was passing away.

So it was really front of mind and my friend gave this amazing, , example, it had just been Mother's Day and she. Lost her mother six years ago. And she said, often the thing about grief is everyone's like looking to you on these, like really milestone days. And that's often not the day you feel it, you know, maybe it's a day later, maybe it's a week, maybe it can come any time. So my main takeaway is just like, no suppression here.

Like when it pops up, it's asking you to look at it and go into it. Whatever that looks like for you. And that's always been kind of one of my main rule of thumbs with friends who are experiencing grief, which is to keep checking in and to keep talking about the person that they lost. And there's this really beautiful, I think it might be by Mari, Mari and Drew. The illustration of grief kind of being a suitcase and then a backpack and then a handbag. You know, that it, it shifts over time.

it also had me thinking about, our mom and I've always watched her handle other people's grief in a really interesting way where she, you know, she's kind of straight in there, you know, I think a lot of people were really uncomfortable because they don't know what to say or that they're going to say the wrong thing. Whereas I think mom does this beautiful thing where she makes space for people to talk about it. Yeah. The person they've lost.

And, you know, we joke about her because we always say she has this like trauma, porn addiction, where like, we're about to sit down for dinner and she's like, and did you hear about the boss crash? And we're like, no mom. She also will have, like, strangers will tell her their most traumatic life stories within an instance. yes. Because she has the gate of the listener.

So it literally pulls things out and people will be like, I don't know why I'm telling you this, but what's really cool is her main gift is all about emotional crisis. So it's like, actually she handles that really lightly. Like for her, she's like, Oh, but that's how you learn about being a human. And that's where like the material is. And like, we might hear a story and absorb it in every cell and like, not be able to think about anything else.

But for her, she's like, yes, I'm passing it along. but my point is with ongoing grief, I think it's. Making space for the person that someone's lost to be present and part of the everyday. And sometimes that means using, , present tense, like. You know, your mom does this or just we all live and we all die. And we're so afraid of it. And we're so afraid of what, of like upsetting someone, but it's so strange that we don't want to look at that thing. That's inevitable.

But when there is something like this and grief is present, we kind of have to, and that can make us uncomfortable, but I think it's learning to, let it be part of every day. Yes. And mommy's amazing at holding spaces of people in a whole range of circumstances, but particularly around grief. And yeah, I've learned so much from watching her do that. So love you, mom. We love you. And tell the people you love that you love them. Absolutely. I love you too, dad. Love you, Ellen.

So the question today comes from a manifesta and it is, I can't decide what I want to do for work. I'm 35 and quit a 10 plus year career that I hated, but now the possibilities are too many and I'm stuck. Help. I think we should hear a bit about manifestos before we go into kind of my typical thoughts on careers.

Manifest is a, if you think about the food chain, they're kind of like at the top, They're the great a sense, yeah, they are because traditionally they would have been our rulers, our Kings and Queens, and they would have been the ones that had the vision and they were like, all right, let's go. And they're quite literally the only energy time that manifests in the traditional way, which is literally speaking things into existence.

And, How funny that we're all trying to run around doing that now. We are all trying to be manifestors. And when I was reviewing my training, my teacher said like, and everyone's going to fucking hate that she did not swear, but everyone's going to hate that. But that's just because we all think that is the only way to make our dreams come true. That is not true. That is why human design is such a powerful tool because. It puts you back in touch with how you work.

But their strategy, their way of manifesting is to inform. So it is like speaking into existence, speaking what they want. But the cool thing about the manifesto is that, you know, they go in like. Peaks and troughs of energy, because if you are the visionary and you want something built, you don't have to build it yourself. You know, that's why you have this kind of like army of generators with their life force to do it for you.

Of course we want no exploitation here, but it's knowing like, Oh, okay. I'm supposed to like very much be in this leader position, whether that means leading a team or just yourself, but it's like having authority and leadership over your life. Which of course we all should, but We're talking energetics here. Right? So, it's knowing like, okay, you've just quit this huge, huge career. You might actually Need to exist right now in this lull of energy, I would say like a retreat.

And I imagine I'm going to make another assumption, like 10 years. It doesn't feel like there's panic in this question. It feels like there's probably like the fuck you security fund of like, you know, safety, done. Fingers feels, yes, this, this feels, like a sensible, Request. So we're going to say like, we can take time to retreat, but , it's knowing that like, actually the manifestos of today often just want to be left to their own devices.

So in the past, they might have wanted to like, have this huge following of people that got behind their, vision, but now they might want to like do what that means for them. So using this time to really. Let that be a retreat if it needs to be, because they say it's like manifestos are either offering operating at like 20 percent battery or like 200.

So when you get that urge to go again, and you're like, I'm informing, I'm informing, I'm informing, it's going to hit you and you're going to want to go for it. But also knowing like, Anytime a manifesto denies how massive their energetic forces, like essentially their aura, their auric field, they are playing way too small. And so like, if there's any people pleasing or like, you're worried about what people are thinking about you, or you're worried about who's following you.

Like even if you like move into some type of consulting and you're needing to get clients, like it's not energetically correct for you to be like looking around and be like, Oh my God, who's coming? Am I doing it? It's like, no, no, no, no. It's like standing up declaring to the town square. Like this is me. These are my expertise. This is what I want. This is what I'm going for. And then the right people will magnetize to you. And I will say I personally believe like.

As a manifester, if everyone is on your side and you're not ruffling some feathers, like you're probably not doing it that well, or like not that well, that's too like, are we failing or succeeding, but own who you are. And like, that should ruffle some feathers. Like you are supposed to be a bit more polarizing because just like any leader, they don't always win over everyone in the square.

Yeah, I was reading about manifestors recently because I was talking to a friend who is one and really similar to this question. feels totally lost in their career. And I was actually reading on the my human design app that manifestors as children, parents are like, they don't know what to do with them. Mm hmm. Mm I don't know what to do with manifestors as children.

So, I remember is they often kind of go in the wrong direction because we're all like, stop being so like weird or clear or It's not weirdness. And it's so cool. Cause I've got a really good friend who was raised like a manifesto, which is amazing because I've seen now my manifesto friends that have had to like really decondition and then like the success that's come from someone who, got to be energetically in, charge of the family.

That is what that means because you come out being the leader, like it's in your aura, you hold it in your body or So Parents often are like, but I'm supposed to keep you safe. I'm supposed to be in charge. You're the little one. I know better. And so either you have like tension in the family your whole life, and that's really hard, or you have a little manifesto that goes, it's not safe to be myself. And then they shrink. And then anytime you're shrinking, , well, you're betraying yourself.

And so then how you like creating or manifesting in your unique way. If you're not coming from your authentic place. And so for you, that's all about informing. So speaking things into the world. And so like you're there for like informing from the wrong place. So you can see how it's like a trickle down effect of like one misalignment at the start can mean you go down the wrong path. Like Ellen said.

so opening yourself up almost like, Oh, if that is your situation and you felt like you were parented in a way that didn't support you re parent yourself. Like, what would you give yourself now? , what do you need now? And the other thing that I remember as reading as well is, , you might want to do things that other people don't understand or that you find it hard to explain to others, which I thought was so interesting.

And it's so interesting from a career perspective, which is what this question is about, but leaving a career of 10 years, when we didn't get from the question, the experience of that. 10 year career, but I'm going to make the assumption that it wasn't one that was fooled with alignment or joy. That kind of says to me that that's a manifesto who's not practiced it living in line with their design.

And even without this tool, even if I didn't have human designers at all, you know, if we've spent a decade in a job that we don't like, that kind of shows to me. , a real opportunity to practice the muscle of working out what I really want and usually with living with lots of shoulds. So the coaching questions I would be asking with a question like this, uh, what would you do if no one else knew about it? What would you do if you didn't have to explain yourself to anyone else?

And I suspect the answer comes really clearly when you pull all of kind of everyone else's bullshit away and you get to just look at yours. Because there might be a desire that's always just felt really silly or really unattainable. Cool. And I'm just curious about what it is.

I also want to talk about ego in spirituality, which is like the opponent, like it's trying to keep you small and keep you down in terms of human design language, ego is really healthy and it communicates what you're motivated by. It's like that drive to get up and go and go after something. And this person has their, um, what motivates them from that center is a. Drive for money and resources. And it's also in their sun sign in their unconscious side.

Sorry, I'm making the like, Oh God, have I said too much human design things for you guys to keep up with? But what that means is it can be harder for them to see that. But everyone else that knows them is going to be like, Oh yeah, You're going to be just fine. You're great with resources. That's why we think they've got a fuck off fund. Yes. Oh my God. , completely. It's like in the question, I can feel it, but like looking at this, I'm like, they absolutely do.

And honestly, they're probably be quite useful with, for other people sharing, you know, it's probably like the barefoot investor or the pineapple project. You know, this is that notion of someone who, who can like communicate to the tribe. What we have, what we don't have, what we need, how we can make it happen. But I just wanted to say that it can be a really great point to look at as well.

Your ego center in human design and what the gifts coming out of there are, because if you are motivated. By something, and you're feeling stuck that can put the power back in the driver's seat for you and go, okay, well, if it's between this option and that option, I'm going to go for the one that does bring in the money or just like owning like, yeah, there's no shame here. I'm great at this. , I want that.

So, , when you're doing those questions, like the Ellen asked, if you come up with any, like. Okay. Now, bad ego, like the opponent being like, oh, but you couldn't possibly from this, you couldn't make money, dah, dah, dah, dah. It's like being able to go, well, I'm motivated by it, so I'm gonna make it happen, and I'm good at it.

And then just the advice, I think that applies to all career steps, which is, I mean, if you've got the resources and you want to take the big leap of faith into Kind of whatever very specific, very hard to explain to other people thing that you want to do. I mean, go for it. If you need to practice the muscle a bit more about believing in yourself and trusting your intuition and, yep. And kind of having your own back then, what's the stepping stone?

What's the kind of Venn diagram between the skill that you really developed for the last 10 years and where you wanna go? 'cause it's, it's like so many of those skills are really transferable. They really help in a bunch of different places in a different ways, and we think of them in really narrow ways. I also am so like, everything happens for a reason, woo girl, but I often think that when I look back. Back at what I've done, what I'm doing now. I'm like, Oh wow.

Yeah. Look how every tiny job I had built out my skillset here, which is what transferable skills are. But I, I think it is that notion that like, you probably were there for a reason. So those reasons. And in my work that works group coaching program, we often will do that. So we'll take up someone's CV and we'll just help them present whatever jobs they've had in a way that like fits them perfectly into the key of whatever the next job is. And I'm always kind of fascinated at how.

Easy it is to do and everyone struggles doing it for themselves. And then we get the group to look at the CV and others are like, Oh yeah, we'll just like, you know, let's call that stakeholder engagement instead of project management or let's call that, let's talk about how you've supported the sustainability instead of disability because we want to kind of be broader. , it's really interesting and hilariously, so many HR practitioners do the work that works program.

Cause I think people are always attracted to , Those who have a similar background to them, but it's, it's funny when you get them to look at their own CVs and they have done recruitment for a living, or they've looked at so many other people's CVs, but just we've got blinkers for ourselves. So if you're struggling to go work out, okay, what's the Venn diagram between what I've done before and what I want to do?

Yeah, ask for some help, , your friends or colleagues or people who know you well, they'll be able to help you make those links. I've been thinking, do I make some of the questions as part of my purpose playbook available, , online as like a free download. And I feel like this question is like, yes, definitely do that because there's a series of questions I kind of asked myself when I was feeling really stuck and I just accumulated them from all different places.

But one of my go to is my favorite ones. When you are in that kind of, Can't see myself fog, like, what are people come to you for advice on, or like, what do you get complimented on? Like, what's the feedback, , from your peers already. but this list of questions, you know, you could also take to friends and be like, Hey, can you help me? What do you say? So look, by the time this is out, that gives me a good old five to six weeks, so it should be there for you on looking for our science. com.

and not to be competitive because you should have as many resources as you want, but you can go to ellen hooper.com and get the DIY free coaching guide as Yeah, definitely. No, it's not competition. It's cosmic and corporate. It's like, it's quite literally using. All of the tools you have available and like knowing, I think in these moments, as I say regularly from my different Amber, more will reveal itself and so taking the pressure off because freaking yourself out.

By the long term goal rather than the small steps might be too much right now, but also you're in this gorgeous fertile period where you can daydream. And as Ellen said, like that, that thing, that sounds ridiculous. You know, like I'm sitting here talking to you with a podcast as a human design coach. when I was using those questions in 2019, 2020, it wasn't even a consideration. So, , I'm actually really excited for you. It might not feel like that, but you're a manifesto.

You're motivated by money. You, it's like in your design, sunshine, you're going to be sweet. And I can't wait to follow along. So if you feel like, writing in and keeping us updated, we'd love to. We'd love that. Also, and we can share whatever you're working on. Whenever you're ready. We've heard from each other. We've heard from our listener.

And now I've drawn a main card and I'm really fascinated by it because there's like a hundred mood cards in this pack and we actually routinely probably pick about 10 over and over again. but today we've got one I've never, ever pulled before. How cool is that? Okay. So it's waxing moon. And it says in the energy is gaining momentum. Oof. There you go, Manifesta. the situation is full of potential. Your dream can come true. More effort is yet required.

Are you willing to give it and keep moving forward? During the waxing moon cycle, hope springs eternal. This card is a very positive omen, indicating that you can create the reality you're dreaming of, though it will take some work and you're not quite there yet. This is a time of energies rising up. Emotions are building too. Where do you want to go, and do you believe you can get there?

Either you can just keep meditating and focusing on your desired outcome, or you can make the courageous commitment to take more practical steps towards your goals. Whichever you decide, you're most certainly on the right track. And I had a thought that I didn't share before, which is just the act of quitting the job after a decade, Mm hmm. Huge. a huge commitment to the next stage. And actually, um, I just asked you to read that again.

And when you read it, I was like, Oh my God, that was, that was also for me to like, leave the house and not just keep meditating. Okay. I hear you, Moon sign, Moon card. I hear you, Moon card. The moon is usually always saying to you, take some practical Well, let me take some practical steps to shut this recording down. Thank you for joining me. I love you very much and I'll see you next week. I love you too. Oh, and if you could, um, rate and subscribe, we'd really like that.

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