Voice Director of Kim Possible Spills the Tea!

actually recorded together was miniscule. Sadly, it was like, how many times was it? You must know, you know, every five times? Yeah, at the most, because it was in the way beginning, and then you ended up recording with John Diggio and Nicole Sullivan. Yes, we would do that, and then Nancy was separate them sometimes and is always separate. I don't think we did one session. I remember that it was you were not there, but Nancy was in with up with Johnny and in the beginning being okay,

and then she was like, no, I don't like that. Will. Yeah. She actually gave me a very nice compment. She said, you're wow, you are really great in this show, and I was like, of course, I might have made that up in my own head. I think it happened, and I'd like to remember it happened, but I should remember it that way. We should probably also tell our wonderful listening audience and watching a viewing audience. I should say

who Lisa is exactly. Lisa is one of the people most responsible for recording us on Kimpossible, like essentially starting from the very beginning, and by Chris did the pilot. He did the pilot, and he did I think a few of the early episodes, a very few in the beginning, and then we would record Saturday mornings after your p s A T class because she was in Yeah, and then you went off to college and we recorded you from New York and you were bell on Broadway and

we recorded you from or Will Never Left. He was I'm always he was in Woodland Hills exactly. You know, I was Burbank. I was in Burbank at the time. I didn't realize, well, when we wait, when did we start? Three? Two thousand two and three was like casting and pred and I think two thousand three, two thousand four was season Then, yes, I wasn't. Lisa also has a really amazing memory. Remember something exactly. She called me Dan for the first like six episodes. I called you dude, like

I call everybody. No, no, no, no. I went freelance for like I left. I was a Disney employee when we started, and I was a scheduler and a coordinator and and really that was my day job. And then they were letting me direct and direct and direct, and finally Jamie Thomas, in the head of casting, was like, okay, fly,

what was the first show you ever directed? Well? I directed at a smaller animation company called The Deek Entertainment of my Childhood, So I did The Wacky World of Tech Savery was one of the first ones I did. I did some of the Inspector Gadget readers. They did old school Inspector gadgett too, though deck they were like around they created it. But that was before I got there. And you know, that's where I met, Like they had Tara and they had Cree Discovered from Toronto like when

they were kids. Penny on Incopord brought her back and Race LaMarsh and all of them people. So when I came over to Disney, I went back because it was to earn my stripes as a Disney So I went back and was a talent coordinator and a booker and schedule and then some people came to you and said, we've got a show. Yeah, my Mark and Bob came and and we started working. I was casting their show. I was casting it and coordinating it and then directing it and doing all the auditions. And you know, did

you ever cast it? Could you cast us? Well? Me and Mark and Bob, I mean, you know, Jamie and Dave and who team, the whole team? I remember? Okay, So I remember our animaltic that was used for the audition process. Do you remember that? Really? It was? Yeah? I think so it was like, well, do you maybe

she remembers better than me? No, no, but no, I just remember that what had happened was they put they had put me, or maybe I came into the studio in like Disney voices and then I put myself on tape and they had showed me KPS like you know, her her picture, her description. Bob and Mark kind of like helped coax me through it because I hadn't done anything like that. Yeah, you came to Disney to our booth. Okay,

so you do remember, yeah? And then I just remember though they used the pilot episode as a regular episode later down the line. Right, yes, how did that all work? Well, we did the pilot and then, but we had also concurrently started the show. So by the time the pilot came back, like we were reworking everything because like the show evolves, and so I think when you do a pilot, especially of an animated especially of an animated show, nine

months goes by before it comes back. Right, So everything we had recorded twenty shows in that time, because we had gone to series and they went out. They were like boom boom, boom, boom boom, all the records happen, and then you get this one back that's kind of like off by itself. Well, and Disney was chopping it

up to use it to promo. So like this one piece of dialogue I remember was not only from the audition obviously, remember like trying to really get the job with this whole little c net that me and Will's character was doing. It was like, don't freak out, Kim, And I was like, I'm not like that whole thing, Okay, I do. I vaguely remember it was like the c net that they kind of chopped up and then they teased it to people. And I don't even know if they had that song yet from Christina Milion. I don't

think that. I think do you were you a part of any of the musical stuff. I was a part with the musicals with you guys, but not for Christina. And what List is talking about is the naked male rap. Well not just nake, but say the word. And John DiMaggio is draging. Yes, we did the Christmas songs and stuff like that. I remember John calling me after one Christmas song and going, I can't believe you hit the harmony.

He literally said to because I can't believe he hit the harmony because he knows I can't sing, so he's like, I can't believe he hit the harmony. He was like, hey, thanks, He's like he couldn't. The naked that was rapping and singing or a little different though. That was my second rap song and apparently award winning trap I did not know about. Bob and Mark are the creators of Kimpossible. Bob Schooling and Mark Mark mccorle. They accepted an award

for the Naked mole rap. I guess they didn't even go. They didn't. I think they found out about it after it happened. I have a question for you with regards the casting process, because one of the things that we are talking about here on I hear voices. We're trying to teach everybody kind of the entire process around making an animated series or any sort of divorce or or even if it's doing a commercial or doing a movie, whatever it is, and so we are making sure we're

trying to hit everybody. So that's why we have Lisa on. We're going to try to do as many directors as we can as well, and Lisa's of course a director extraordinaire. But song a bit, you've been sung a bit. You got an Emmy behind you, so you're you're've been sung a little bit. And we've had some Emmy's on this show now. Um, and apparently you got nominated for one, which I had did know until a minute ago. I

had no idea. Apparently I'm the only one on Kimpossible that was not nominated for an Emmy, which I just found that Nancy was nominated. That's what I'm saying. She won. I think I thought she want I don't think. Okay, Well, either way, she won for barts In which is a

smaller cartoon character some people might have heard of. Um. But one of the things that's very different a lot of the times in the animated world than it is in the you know, on camera world, is in a lot of these cases, the director also is in charge of casting or is really helpful when it comes to the casting process. Yes and no. Okay, now what do

you mean by certainly? Well, in the in the beginning days like earlier, Uh, because I was wearing a lot of hats, I was casting and directing, and there's shows I cast from the beginning to the end. But it depends on the studio. Like Nickelodeon has their own casting department, Disney has their own casting department, Warner Brothers has their own casting department, so they do. Did you get any say, like especially as the show is getting bigger, Yeah, of course,

you know, Hey, I want to bring this person in. Yes, absolutely, But it used to be we would do that all day long, and now they have, you know, which is great for directors because you have a whole group of people who only cast, so they're they're you know, dedicated to your show, and they're dedicated to bringing you the people and you can talk to them. You know, it's a very collaborative. Um sport right. I feel really silly because a lot of times so I would report and

obviously I was disconnected. Lisa was always so supportive in trying to keep me sort of connected to the rest of the cast that even if I was in New York, which I was for about a year. Um, she she was like, guess who we got cast in this one? Like we got the Taco Bell dog, like the voice of the dog fast Yeah, no, no, no, you're thinking of he was not, but that's not the Taco Bell. That's right, Carlos. It was from and he was the

Taco he was. Okay, I'm not sure I ever knew that. No. Ricardo Montalbon was senior senior senior, Yes, yes, and that was phenomenal, like directing him like the icons, Debbie Reynolds, we got to direct never had to meet any of these people. That's the thing. Dakota Fanning played Baby Kim Possible. Yes, remember that like that? It was It was incredible and she was such a fan of you. I mean, that's why. I wish you guys could have because they were all

such big fans of the show. When we aged everybody and young everybody. There were some huge actors on Kim Possible and that really big guy who like had to duck in when he played them the Giant, the Giant guy from Yes Oh, Kevin Michael Richardson's good friend Michael Clarke Duncan, who was the phenomenal actor and apparently according to and he played Rufous. He played Rufus the Yeahs and he was so into it, you know, like he

was like, I can't believe I get to do this. So, you know, while we were in our later seasons, it was easier because people we it was a known commodity. People loved it. Dakota could not. She was like freaking out, she was so excited about it. Um So Ricardo Montbarlmo senior senior senior was it Nestor? Was he senior senior junior who gave one of the so out of character performances for an actor you've ever seen it? Just meaning like you see Nestor on things like he was just

on the Morning Show, and he's in everything. He was in Batman and he's in bed and everything, and then you heard his performance and it was just so good and talk about he had never sung before. And we made him sing every boy band song relentlessly because that's what Senior Senior Junior only ever wanted to be a pop star. That was his goal. And what was the

name of the band? We made up town. That's an actual that was an actual band, and we made that poor man so nervous and he would sing and we're like, well, the good news is Senior Senior Junior is a terrible singer. And and it was Adams nest Oh my god, he's dreaming. We called Nestor Carbonar in our house. He's the one who always looks like he has I make up on. He's a really good looking dude. Adam Barry, Adam Berry, Adam Barry. Oh, this guy, this guy, yeah, that guy. Yeah.

Oh that's perfect, very good actor. Yeah. And he just had that father. Father was so great. I don't know to want to I want to suntan. Oh. It was crazy. So Adam Barry was the music and he Nestor would have to sing over and and he but he got through it and he was It was perfect. It was perfect. We did a lot of actual music songs and what Disney likes to put music in, Well, markam Bob like

to market? Bob do some things that are pretty remarkable, Like I remember the episode where it's Mark and Bob in the boat and it's and it's and they did in the boat. And then there was one character that Ron talks about named Mary gary Anu because Gary Marianna was our did our pr um. So it's like they would throw in these little nods that only we would get. You know, it's you know, nobody watching the show is going to go, oh, that's Mark and Bob unless you

Mark and Bob. So that stuff was was really really cool. Now, was there anybody that you really wanted to get on the show that you tried and tried and tried and it just didn't happen, Carrie Fisher, We tried and tried and tried for which role it was? Was it a bunch? Was it for I want to say it was a it was a villain or I can't remember. Uh. And everybody said they had their an in and everybody had an inn and and no one could get to her.

And I want to say, I feel like we didn't have uh, I feel like we had a lot of male villains, especially the main ones. Amy. We had Melissa McCarthy. Yes, that's right, that was me because I was a huge Gilmore Girls fan, so I got before she exped I made market and we got her, and we got a bunch of people from what I mean. Also, one of the best villains ever was she Go because she was the one who was actually she was really the mastermind

of everything going on. And we had Carrie Kenny from Reno nine on one and she played another villain in a in season in a really early season. I never got to meet any She's like one of my favorite She's one of the unsungs, hysterical and the daughter of a legendary voice over actor, Larry Kenny, the original Lionel we brought onto teen Titans. Did you okay? Cool? Yeah, he was the original Lione on thundercost He's so good, so good, believe. But yeah, but I want to be

so happy about this. But the more I'm hearing these amazing that I didn't get a chance to record what I was gonna say, Did you record with Gary Cole and Jean Smart? Did you actually get to Mom and Dad Possible. I met Gary Cole a couple of times randomly, and I remember at one point I walked up to my saw him in a restaurant like years later, and I walked up to him and I said, excuse me, Mr Cole, my name's you know Will We we did

Kim Possible together. Oh, yes, you know I remember him Possible. Thanks. I was like, okay, I'm gonna leave you now. Thanks. Thanks. So mellows he did that to me too. Calm is very nice. Yeah, like you never shot, very like just sit there. He was not rude. He was just very professional. And he came in, did this thing and left. No, I don't know, Ronald, he has this kind of way about it. I mean, yeah, we brought him into Penguins and he would come in and Jean Smart he was

just my idol. I wasn't designing women super fans for me. It was just like, oh man, people that the rest of the world. I was starting to see Jeans ridiculous, insane and so good, and that they ended up airing together so you could see the full of of how talented that woman is. And again she came in completely unassuming you had no idea and she just go do whatever you want, just tell me what it is, and she'd go a hundred miles. Debbie Reynolds was the same

way when she was doing Nana Possible. She's like, honey, do you want me to do the kung fu moves? I've been practicing. I kind of do do And we were just like beside ourselves. That was DeBie Reynolds, not you're in too, Carrie Fisher. Well, I think it was like we got it came. I know it was. We thought that was solid gold, and it just never happened, and I don't know where it fell apart. Now I have to ask you, this might be there might be

no good answer behind this. So if there isn't just making is there a reason we never recorded with Nancy Well, I think a lot depends on schedules, so everybody's schedule dictated. She's very tried, very nicely. Now she didn't want to time. Disney wasn't doing big on some We only did it because you asked specific Oh is you it? I mean, I hope I'm not speaking out of but you made a request at one of the season breaks. I mean when the story was I wasn't gonna come back for

season two. Oh my gosh. We we thought it was too It is too because we renegotiated our feet. Okay, See it wasn't had nothing, had really nothing to do with that for me, like, I can't actually want this, This is such impossible. It had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the money for me. Swear to god, I really didn't care about the money at all. It was

that I did. I was recording by myself and I was just coming off a Batman where we there'd be twenty people in the room and there's all this energy, and then I was walking into this room by myself, and I just didn't like it. So I didn't make a stink. I didn't say anything. All I said was I think it would be better if you just got someone else. I said, I just I don't think it's for me. And then they called me and said, no, we really want you back. I said, look, guys, it's

I'm not trying to I'm not. It's not well, we'll talk about money. I'm like, I swear it's not about the money at all, because you're very rich. But it wasn't about that. I wanted to record with other actors. That's amazing that I was at the time. That was a very stylistic difference between Warner Brothers because I was doing show directing, show and showdown over there and we had fourteen people lined up, seven on one side, seven on the other, and it's all raised in the middle

and me screaming bloody murder at everybody. It was phenomenal. I was also doing you know, when we did Penguins, we did ten people in the room loudhouse, when before COVID we're doing twelve people in a room guards in a straight lineup, guys all look like criminals. But literally was a straight row secret Saturday something that I cast beginning to end top to They let me do that. That cast was secret was right after k Impossible. Yeah, and it was actually a pretty great I was my goodness.

He played a dark soul I did. It was cool, which was so different deep in his voice. Yeah, it was even deeper than Batman. That's the deepest. Doyle was the deepest character doing a character voice. I've never heard of it. Ye, Doyle was just he was just down here, like get out of your kid, and he was he

was an unhappy soul he was a mercenary. Yeah, and so it was this complete departure, but it was so it was so great, you know, to do that that turn, because you know, I love working with actors, but also like love switching it up like in that that show Dietrich Babe played a character that never spoke like he made he was an alien, and the way he did it at all like that. No, he did it well, did not sound like that, but it had so much

humanity and he never uttered a single actual word. He could make a sound and we would almost be in tears like it was. It was. He played this heart like it was. And I directed him, I would fists. I would direct him as if I was just like a regularly. I wasn't telling him to make sounds. I'm like, here's your emotion, here's what the scene is. And he would like and then he'd like have his mind. They'd leave his mic up because he just ad lib in the middle of it all. And it was because it

weren't word didn't matter. It was genius. It really was Corey Burton. That's the first time I'd worked with Corey Burton, who is a legend. This is remember when you and I were talking about originally doing this show. I told you one of the reasons that I wanted to do it was because, Yeah, this podcast is because of a conversation I had with an actor named coryburn He was at my house. He didn't doesn't like to come to rap parties, but we had just finished ThunderCats and he came.

He came, and he was there late. Everybody had left and it was just myself, Matt Mercer, and Corey Burton left and I said, I was like, this is too good an opportunity. And I said, Corey, I'm just curious, where do you come up with your characters? And he said, I have a shelf built in my mind and on that shelf they're all the characters I need. And when I need to, I reach into my mind. And I remember I was telling you the story and I was like, we need to talk to more voiceover actors to find

out where they're getting it because that story. And I was like, it's nuts. Yeah, We've had such an amazing time unlocking all of these journeys that people have taken to find themselves an animation, whether it's through singing or through like Kevin Conroy, so Kevin Conroy. We had a great chat with him. I'm hoping that's not going to spoil anything, but I don't think it will. So here's the fature this after Kevin, there you go. You own the channel. Um. So with Kevin though, and this will

kind of swing back to the directing thing. Kevin was approaching things in a much more like realistic, grounded approach, which is what made Batman so special. And what I think what he said was it changed like the that entire show, the whole, and I can see why you repressed to say, look, guys, this isn't my journey in this way because I'm inspired by Kevin and like, you know, you're being mentored in that regard. So it's like this is not the experience I would want. And so that

was really worth it. You know what I'm saying that was it was well, I mean again, it was also you know, like sitting this is such a selfish thing to say, but actors are inherently selfish. Um, sitting here with Lisa telling us all these amazing I want to go back to kimpossible and I want to record with all these people I did too. I want to do a huge ensemble reboot, and but just she's like, don't get excited, get excited, get excited, but it will all

be always based on people's schedules, sure, you know. And so there were times we were, you know, scrambling to show up when Ricardo Montabon felt up to it, like we would make that happen point he was in and he was in ill health and it was and killed it and like he you were like, oh man, how is he going to get And then he the microphone would drop in front of his face and he would light up. And we've known a bunch of people that

do like um Fred Willard. Fred Willard, I have known him, worked with him for fifteen years and and I would see him in the lobby and he'd just be kind of quiet and and he gets in front of that microphone and his whole being just lights up and it's a joy. It's a joy. It's a performer. And he but you see the inherent joy in his body, like everything comes alive. And and I think that's what makes what we do so special. It's not whether or not a camera's on you, but it's when you get to perform.

And everybody would love to do anythink ensembles are one of the best things in the world to do. There are some people who don't have this, Like who's a guy who was in the Penguins cast. I won't name him because he's a crack up, and but he was very busy and we the Penguins cast to do one eleven minute show took four hours. We were ridiculous. It was I was a lunicorn. You brought me on. It was amazing, But I staid out a song. I was like,

I can't even with these guys. People, And that's the thing, is you there to become a lion tamer, because I just end up yelling shut up at the top of my life at some point. There is so in those ensembles it gets tough to imagine a Jean Smart or or sit around. And so one of the guys walked in and we were going to take him by himself when this thing had wrapped and he's like, oh, maybe, I was like nope and walked out like they just look like like it's a parrot store and they're all

on purchase and they were and they're magnificent. Let me tell you those it was in that room. It was it was magical. John Maggio, Danny Jacobs, Kevin Michael Richardson, James Patrick Stewart, yes, because they call him Patrick, but it's James Patrick Stewart, because you're somebody else Patrick Stewart, right,

Patrick Patrick Steward. And Dietrich was a rotating character in that, and those sessions were they don't mean talk about the funniest things in the world, but there comes a point where you walk out and you're just you were like, you had to go and take a nap or have

a glass of wine. But if you were an actor who had five lines in that and Nicole and we had to call in the middle of that, Nicole was game until she wasn't kidd and then she's like, oh, yeah, you know how you see those old stories of Robin Williams or Robert you know, you'd see him on the old comedy you know, comedy shows, or you see him doing that kind of comic relief thing where he's just

taking over. It was four of four Robin Williams against each other in a room, yes, you know, and it just became this collaborative what I found interesting furious, So what I found interesting about Lisa's directing style is that she like allowed and I don't know if this is industry standard, but you would allow for you know, improv and breathing room and creativity. You know. We talked to some like anime people and they're like, yeah, I just kind of like match the lip flaps and like that's

part of it. But I'm trying to americanize it, and that's like a struggle for them. But meanwhile, it's like with these original characters from the get go, we've been able to like infuse so much of ourselves. And for me, at the time of getting hired, I was so young that I felt like that was helpful to keep her youthful and whatnot, and also somewhat challenging as I was

growing older going through other things. My voice was struggling at some points, and it was like you were there through all of that, so patient and and really like you were really like this maternal hand at producing this,

you know. So anyway, with the Kevin Conroy aspect of him sort of looking at sort of how he's taking direction through that Batman and sort of the nuances of that, I feel like Lisa sort of was mentioning that and so in terms of us going back and talking about Lisa's like like her beginning journey into like animation, and how did you really learn to be the great director that you are with all of these I so appreciate

that compliment. And I sort of came at it and I had I had Jamie Thomason as a great role model. Andrea Romano was my god. She was like a mentor, a complete mentor. Marcia Goodman was my very early mentor. When I found out this was a job, are you kidding? I was loading. I started in advertising. I had a

million jobs. And to answer your question, what I feel like with characters and character development is we bring on actors, right, so we bring you guys in to create these characters, whether it's Dietrich creating this character that doesn't speak, or you creating coming from youth. You know, you had Mark

and Bob, who guess what weren't high school cheerleaders. And as we look to to create this world together, and so there is this amount of I would like to you know, we're going to get a change that's on the page that has written, But I want to hear you guys first. I always just opened it up. Here's the scene we're going to do. Whether we've got two people into booth or one person in the booth or

twenty here's the scene we're gonna do. I don't give any direction, just go and then we'll talk about it, and then we'll go again, and then whatever you have thoughts, let's go again. You know, we have that luxury. We're not blocking. We're not you know, taking up people's lighting time.

You know, there's not And as you get further and further into a series, you have a lot more shorthand you have a lot more Our writers know what you guys can do, which is why you got all the songs, which is why you get you know, like when we were talking about Secret Saturdays, we had Nicole doing scientific dialogue all day long because she could, you know, it just was something she she didn't know she could do that,

and we didn't know she could do that. But guess what they wrote her, you know, pages of this stuff and she wanted to you know, smack him, but remember some of the words. It was like it was we'd all be like she'd get to a word in the whole cast, we like, oh, come on, yeah, like went over on two pages, and you know, and and the kids. Sam Learner, who was such a great such like a full grown adult at this Yes eight, very quickly, because we haven't talked about this yet, and I think people

need to know. Kim Possible, teen, Titans Go, Scooby Doo, Guardians of the Galaxy, Boss Baby, Big Hero six, he did Lego, d C Comics, It's Monsters, Loudhouse, Cassa Grand Days, new untitled Nickelodeon show I can't talk about. I can't talk about yet. It's actually secret life of I'm not making it up. I have no idea what you did. Um, but yeah, so, I mean quite the resume for saying that you started in advertising. So not bad there. It's

the best job I have ever dreamed of having. I love it the whole world, like the people, front to back, top to bottom. You just it's the most inclusive, the most talented. Dare I say industry, And it constantly is evolving, but it remembers its roots. It includes everybody. You include new people all the time, but you never forget the legends that come before. And and it's exploding. There's animation everywhere, so everybody can work. You know, it's not. And don't

get me wrong, it's competitive. I was gonna I was gonna say it absolutely and and and I shouldn't. But I feel like there's so much content right now. And whether you specialize in anime or video games, you know, like or books on tape, a lot of books at doing. Yes, um, there's worlds within the world. It's within the world. And I just am so grateful that I fell literally backwards into it. I ended up. So I started advertising. I'm gonna I'm gonna make your day in one quick second.

But so I had a lot of entry level jobs and I had, you know, gone to you see Santa Barbers Communications major but no real like I want to do the real focus. They would say, no, no focus, And I believe it, and I'm inherently I'm a very shy person. I say, did you ever act? I didn't even speak, Like when I was a kid, I would answer the phone and not say hello, or I go to my neighbor's house and my mom would have to go home and call and tell him I was standing

on it because I wouldn't knock. I'm making up for it. But but so so so, I had a bunch of jobs They all went sort of nowhere, like maybe I'll be a copywriter, maybe I'll but I was working in the accounting department, and maybe I'll do this, but I'm working. So I ended up working for this guy who wrote and produced radio commercials out of his house, and he was kind of bananas and um and this is a family friendly show, and it was it was. It was

a lot. It was a lot. But you had to answer the phone in a very certain way or he get very angry. Oh please tell me how you answered the phone. Sorlely, Big and better, sorle Sorlely, Big and better. Ye. His name was John Sorley, okay, and it's big and better, yes, But there were no but that was the name of this coming. I'm not sure that Mike got that. Could you do it one more time? I actually needed to

do three taps. So so my friends would call all day long because they knew I would get in trouble if I didn't answer the phone like that, and they were relentless, and so I would answer the phone, start the Big and Better, and I'd be in tears because this guy was maniacal, and there was so much terrible nous about the two of you in this well and some this is a family friendly show. It was dramatic, I'll say, I'll say it that way. So I kept sending out my resume because I knew I couldn't do

this long term. So I sent my resume to Deak for some merchandise job. I'm like, I don't care. I just got and so they brought me in and the and they're like, well, we probably be better in production. We'll put you in production. And Marcia's Marcia Goodman, the head of casting, saw my resume and it is like, well, be my secretary. So I started out as her secretary and left there a director, like she really took me

over how many years? Seven? Nothing like a good mentor honestly, yeah really And and so you asked, like hours ago where I got my So I learned. But you you as a director and as a as an actor, you guys, you develop your own styles, right, So you have to find what you're comfortable with. What she would do wasn't necessarily I was never going to pull that off. She was a very confident. You know. Well, it also it seems like you were really kind of traumatized by that person. Directing.

You poorly at having to do the same thing over and over and over again in a certain, very particular way. I mean, that was that was not good. So it was not Maybe subconsciously you were like, I'm going to fix this problem. Maybe maybe that's a really good point. That's that's a really good point. So when I learned that voice directing was a job, first of all the heavens opened. And I'm because it's you get to work with writers who I love and if I would get

out of my own way would do. And you get to work with actors and who are funny, who I love, and everybody is so like things like us, you know, like you're quick thinking, and uh, it literally suited me. And it was like that moment you go, oh, that's this is exactly ever I found it. I found it. I found it, and it wasn't easy, and it was I was older than most people who came into it, and but you know, I love it. I loved it. And I were you into animation, like did you grow

up animation? Loving animation? But while we were at deep animaniacs came out and that changed pinking in the brain and animal I know, and and Jess and Rob and Jeff Bennett and Maurice dressed and they would come in an audition at Deek and my friend Stephanie and I would fan girl out like we had plush toys. We were in our twenties, you know, having them signed stuff and we're so I would say, you know, I watched

all the I loved cartoons when I was a kid. Yeah, because you were shy, so you enjoyed watching was it the Bugs Bunny? The context? I love the Bugs Bunny. I love Hanna Barbera stuff too. I love the Hannah Barbera stuff. Um, I watched it all. I really did, you know, just sort of take it in. And then when you got to meet all those people, like like working with Frank Boker directing the Scooby Doo, like the first Scooby Doo movie I directed, like are you kidding me?

Who am I who? You know? Like I used to watch and it was Frank and watching Frank you know that's a legend, legend, you know, And getting to work with him and I had worked with him years before, but getting to work with a mask tight like there was something like this moment of oh, I'm doing what you know, little six year old Lisa would be blown away. I've had a couple of you have a couple of those moments in this in this side of the Asta.

Remember the first Transformers record that I did with Peter Colin, where as Optimists, he turned you went Bumblebee and we all sat there. There was myself, Cary Peyton, there was there was five forty something year old staying there staring at him, and it took me a while to go, oh, he's talking to me, like I have to answer now. And so you have that moment, and you got that with with people like Frank too, where you're like, well,

I can't believe this is happening. You're talking to me and I have to answer, and we're in the same room and it's like we're colleagues and it's just the cool Kim Conroy I was like that, Mark Hamill, Mark, Mark Hamill, You've got to be kidding me, Like you don't talk about it. Loves talking, I know, but everybody said don't do it. And then you're sitting there and all you can think about you're just like, how am I not to see to me? I Luke but Batman

the animated series being what it was. I was just like watching him do the Joker was just like you've got kidding. It was to me like watching Peter Cullen do Optimust Prime or Frank Welker do Megatron. I mean there in that moment, it's good. We just need to pause very quickly for our new sponsor. This segment has been brought to you by Sorley Big and Better stop it, and big and better than the Smart, Big and Better for joining us. I have a couple of smart, big

and better. I don't even think that. I hope it's no. You know, at turned he transferred it over, he changed his professor, it became tesla Um. So yeah, he's a multi billionaire now, good choice though to walk out. And so I have a question, and it's something that you and I have talked about before. There are a rumor upon rumor upon rumor going around about certain people that were almost cast as Kim and Ron. I love that.

So I've heard start with Ron. I've heard Neil Patrick Harris. Okay, I've heard John Cena, and I heard there's like one or two more big people that have come out in their social media post and said I auditioned for ron Stoppable Kim. I really only knew about Alison Hannigan and then they kind of they kind of honored that with her becoming the mom and the live action. But yeah, can you can you can you tell us? Were there any of these people that that actually auditioned for record.

I'm actually really curious who else that audition for the part we're assuming who was our competition? You know that that list? I don't remember that list. I don't remember John Cena recording an audition. They did a record, I will say this, and you guys were replaced? Really and why, oh, I don't know that you're gonna happen. I'm not sure. What does it matter. They're not going to reboot it anyway. Don't say that we're gonna We're gonna put a flag

on that. We're gonna see if if there's a chance we might not be able to say that. But but they recorded an episode was there with the two of them? I didn't direct. Chris Bailey directed it. Chris Chris by the way, great guy, love Chris Love. Chris was a sweetie. Directors get too busy once they get in the heat of animation, so he was doing like Alvin and the Chipmunks like all these like mega franchise like movies. I don't know why he left, but I'm super happy that

he got too busy doing the series he directed. He was the animation director on the series. Like that's what he was doing, right, He was more in the animation, so he was directing. I think I remember him like sketching me, yeah, cell or like something, and then he had Bob and Mark signet, and then I think that's what I have at my house. I have a cell. So I guess the other question I would ask is

when are we doing more episodes from your lips? I would love, love love that wells Lisa, Bob and Mark have Lisa, Bob and Mark have always been extremely supportive of you know they have of us just continuing, you know what I mean. It's nothing crazy. It's not like some crazy reimagining. It's just continuing here. But we've talked

about this before. To forget forgetting even recording more episodes of the show, we've talked about on this show, we'd like to do something that's never been done before because the entire cast has never once been in the same room together. That is true and so that's what it is saying that the anniversary year on I hear voices, we're gonna make happen. We're going to have the entire cast, You're going to be coming, going to schedule it for

us exactly. We are going to have the entire Passive Kimpossible together and Christie is going to be in New York skyping exactly. No way, I'm here, You're not gonna get You're not gonna shaken me this. So that is we're looking forward to that. Now. We do have a segment on the show which we are to switch up

because you're here. So we're gonna be doing something fun on the show in future episodes where we're gonna have a screen here and kids and whoever from around the country the world are going to be able to skype in, come in, zoom in, whatever whatever we're doing at the time, and talk to their favorite voice over actors and show artwork that they've drawn, and their favorite voice over actors are going to put a voice to the character that

they've created. Um, so we've started on every episode. We can't do it live yet. So Christie, who's the woman sitting here? Yeah, that's Christie that's Lisa. She sent out to her her fan base and they sent in pictures. Now we've been showing them to the actors, and the actors have been doing voices. Now, since you don't do voices, I was wondering if we could switch it up and Christie and I could do the voices and you could direct us. I love Lisa directing me, so I also

instantly feel like I'm in an audition room. Christie, Lisa, We're gonna start with Chris. By the way, you can be recast, I know. So wait a minute, hold on a second. Can I be recast as impossible? No? I mean as whatever character we're doing now. I'm sorry I projected that. I projected that of course they can recast this, and I'm sure they will. Here you go go ahead. Wait all right, so what do we I get to see? Otherwise? How do you? Oh? Wait, she should pick? Right? Well,

I guess, yeah, I guess that'd be the better way. Yeah, you pick. That's fine. That was random. That was random. Let me see, my goodness on the top the age and the name does it does it say nine years old? Yes? So Kate is the character. And if we could show it to could you also show it to the camera there? Can you see that? Christie? You got the car? Okay? So her powers are love. She has a lover way that turns herself into a kitty. Oh my gosh. So

she uh starts out as Kate and turns into Caddy. Okay, brilliant, and then she just know that's a good transformation. What agency she would you say? Well, I would say, let's say ten. I love it. So she's ten. Okay, she's tena you know she's a superhero. So it doesn't Okay, our guest don't have any lines. I don't have need lines to say that. It is true. You need lines. You have to improve it. You give me an you're a writer. We're doing this right here. Okay. So she's

a little ten year old girl. That's about. Maybe it's the scene where she's about to turn. How about she's watching her friends and they're having an argument, so she has to use her love right, got it? Now she Caddy? You're impressed with yourself? I could just tell that. Look right there. So she is Kate and then she turns into Caddy. Yeah so maybe so do you think now, Lisa, do you think she has two different like voices no, no,

same voice, same voice. Yeah, Okay, I think she could just be a little more aggressive when she's Cattie okay, like more growling and maybe not maybe more cat in it not to steal from Huey Lewis and the news, but maybe she says something like her catch catch phrases like and now I need the power of love, like something like oh right, because it's I need the power I need Yeah, I need my love ray. Okay, Okay,

So hi everyone, my name is Kate. Um. I really love my family and I really love my friends, but when they get into fights, it makes me really want to just help them out. And so I have this thing. It's called a love ray, and so basically what I do is I will I will use it after um I shoot it out. It has these very like happy, warm little hearts that shoot out and they touch them and they feel happy and they want to hug each

other again. Um. But the other thing that kind of happens is that I need to use the letter box because I'm a cat, so I have to go poop in the letter box. But maybe instead of I like that o, um, so I don't go pe pep peple. Lisa said, I don't do that. I go and seen and see and see. Thank you, Lisa. I don't think I can top that. No, definitely, that was that effectively a ten year old girl. Well I think it was

that ten year old girl. Good news is your half cat, so it could be any so kind of yeah, okay, but you could be harsh on me. You can tell me was that a ten year old thing? Anything you want, that's true. It depends on the animation. On the animation, depends on the style. Some people want actual kids, like I've done to preschool shows where it's real kids, and that is what's that like? Doing preschool shows? It's like a circus. Okay, the kids are great. The quality of

the voice of the kids is great. My goodness, they are. It's like the old Peanuts stuff. It is like the old Peanuts stuff, but the tragedy of it, and there is this serious tragedy to it. Little boys age out like that. And so that's why so many women miles from tomorrowland and then the next five miles and I'm like, oh no, but that's why so many women do boy voices because the voices don't change. So it's it's a

it's a real stylistic choice, you know. So for Loudhouse, for instance, we have a real Clyde and Lincoln are actual kids. All the ten sisters are adults doing doing different ages, different ages. But it's also very caricatured and not like specifically to sound like children because you put them next to real children, they don't. But it's it's a stylistic choice and it really works. Unfortunately, Lincoln and Clyde, we're on Clyde number four and Can number five, and

we didn't. We did that with our characters to twelve. Until it's like, so I'm really young, maybe they're not. Let me ask you this, what's that conversation? Like I know Lisa is probably trying to help the situation. We do to I try not to just kids. I'm like, you're too old, but but it is. It's a delicate conversation. Luckily, now that they're casting directors, they do that. But also the kids now, like the Lincolns now know that there are four Lincolns before them, like it's no, maybe it's

not because we don't like you. You out it's your voice. So you're going to college next year and some of them, Like it depends on Like we've had kids at last one of our clients last three and a half seasons and we just had to let them go and it's like like it's hard. It's there. That's better though then some babies sitting there, you know, going I was Lincoln

number two. Yeah, like that something that was the highlight of my again, and what we do in Loudhouse, because there's such a great group of producers and writers and directors is they write these characters. Now Grant Lincoln one works at one of the fast food restaurants. Oh I love that, and so and he's Grant and he's eighteen and so he's back. And we had Khalil Clyde number one come back as m and so it's it's it's

it's nothing personally, you know, like we're not trying. So for Miles from Tremorrowland, we went through three miles Boss Baby. In the beginning, they made a stylistic choice to keep our our Tim and even though Tim started growing up, we just started hitching it, you know, and we took it as far as we could go. And did you use real babies? Yes, that's what I thought, real actual infants most of the being to talk to her. Yeah, well you have to well and how to switch pages

without making noise. Man, you look at an eighteen month old and go, you've aged out, kid, You're done show business? Yeah, you're washed up. Ain't your friends take your rattle and walking out for you? Now? Geez, you're ready for wait? Let me never want. I almost wanted to see. Honestly, I want You've seen every show I've ever worked. I was thinking about that the other day, Like, it's pretty close. I'm lucky that I picked something that I could really go for it. But like I think, I think maybe

she should cast you like her actual casting. She would have she would have picked this one for me. I bet guarantee it. You realize you're literally doing the opposite of what is random. Whatever you want? Man should pretty princesses. You know this is the modern times. Anybody can be at another cat, A lot of cats, A lot of cats. I got another cat. I tell you I like cats. We had two other cats to listen. Angry cat. Let's do this guy. He's angry. Easy information, that's okay. Why

are you why are you starting? Oh no? Why are you starving me? Cat? That seems to me he's not starving because he's got food right here, all right, So that's um, that's a very disgruntled cat. He's very angry. Does he have an accent? Yeah, he's British. So I see him like this? Why why why don't you feed me? No? He got second rate food? I think he's better now. I feel like we're just running improv Yeah, I think he's like this. You know, he's just look at him.

I don't mind. He's got a list of grievances. He does. I've got a bigger and more. You want bigger and so I've got some grievances, you folks. It's not right for me to just constantly be given no food. Yeah, so the food you gave me is what my mom would call sub port, not sub part. You like it, no subpar that exactly, so exactly. Got play the puns the whole time. So this is how it would be. That's how I feel. I've got big eyes because there's times I'm cute, but don't come near makes a scratch

your freaking basil. That's what I look. That's happy when I'm happy, which is never never, So don't come near me. My little box is mine. Kate came in the other day tried to drop a deuce in my little box. Not that's that right, I'm gonna shoot keep you found it in a cracker jack box. It's not really a love ray. You're just making noise. Okay, So of course you're not. You don't transform a girl. Cat deal fits No. There there's a show there, you go there, there's a

show that would be my Angry Cat. And you would then go, thank you, Phil, And then you would have me leave the room because you didn't even learn my name as I was getting in there. That's what that would happen with me. It takes me a long time to learn people. Okay, So I have one very quick question then for you, for all intensive purposes. You've now got ten or twelve actors, and let's say you're doing an ensemble. You you're a very shy person. You're in

your first record. You've now got ten or twelve actors staring at you, waiting for direction. Were you terrified? Were you just I'm going to fake it till I make it? Were you quiet in the mic? Or did you jump in? Nope, I jumped in. There you go and It was the best thing I ever did for myself because I found my voice. I heard my voice, and I found my voice and I got into it late, um, but it

was exactly what I needed. And I mean, there are days I'm still terrified their days where it doesn't go great, and there are days where you know you're left. You know it's not it's it's it's a phenomenal career. And I am super lucky. There are days where it sucks everything but like everything, but on balance, I am such a lucky human being. And I remember on Penguins we did a Christmas special and Carl Reiner played Santa Claus come on well and and your dad Elliot Goulde. I

freaked out, did you you didn't know? I didn't get to recorded any of these people. Hearing all these incredible people any getting me gold. I was like looking at I don't know why I was looking at school, because what was he going to do? You know, get over with Lisa, And I was just and I did it and he was so over. He's like, thank you so much, and he was so receptive and so into it, and

just every time after that was a joy. And then years later we when we were doing Penguins and Carl Reiner came in and I'm like, are you kidding me? Are you You know, in my brain I'm directing Carl Reiner and I'm outside my body. And and I don't think we we didn't do that as an ensemble, although I think that the actors were around. You get that's the thing, and you get to work. What's what's sad now is what what's great now is animation was the

first thing to come back. And we were recording right away, and we figured it out and we re recorded what we had to and it's been this huge learning curve through COVID and it's incredible. And now it doesn't matter where you are. We can record you anywhere. You could be in your closet, but you can be in your closet in Sydney, Australia, in you know, Budapest. It doesn't doesn't because I remember when I was recording in New York,

it was a hole to do. Oh it was a sink and patch and this it took hours and like it had to have a certain kind of engineer at a certain studio are and and and only be in the last five years would this have been possible nowadays, you wouldn't have had to leave your dorm room would have been maybe she would have had to find a real quiet dorm. Yeah, I mean you can be the equipment. You get the equipment now for broadcast auditions, technically you

can do them on your voice memo. Jason Martin used to do it in his car, covered in a towel. Well he booked. I mean, this is even back in the day. He booked spirited away from his closet. That was even back in the day. So cool. So we still get to work with tremendous phenomenal people, but we're never in the same room now, And I don't know when that goes back because sad rules are dictating what we do in a recording booth yea, and the booth has to sit for half an hour if people go in.

I always record in the booth. Still, I always go in and recording the You have your own booth at your house, no, but I go I I don't use it. I use it for auditions, But I still physically go into the studio and they couldn't be safer. But now you couldn't record with somebody because your union wouldn't know. You don't do it. I don't want to hear it. You've also coined the phrase, so you can start using this. Coined the phrase b CT which is before COVID time.

Yeah yeah, so in the before times we would, you know. But but we still get to record amazing people. And now they're more apt to do it because we can send out. They do have to do a little Some people get a little irritated doing some of the engineering. Um, because that's I still don't really know how to do it. Yeah. No, And I went to Trevor's house for the first part of COVID. I literally went to Trevor's house. He would wear a mask. I would wear a mask, and then

I would walk past him. I'd go into his booth. He'd have it COVID protocols, like dude, I'll cord you. And it was the greatest thing in the world. Is Trevor Is Trevor one of our engineers? No, Trevor devl is an phenomenal actor who listens. He's now in Texas. He moved to Texas. Oh yeah, Trevor's lived in Texas from the way Lissa went to to Texas. Oh yeah, so what do you think the future of animation is then?

Besides this integrated the new way of recording, regardless of the I think it's going to be hybrid from now on. I think it's going to be. It's not going to go back a percent, not for a long time. I don't think. I think. I think there's a lot of people that aren't going to be comfortable. There are a lot of people that love doing it from home that don't. You know you like to do you like directing from home parts of it? I love sure parts of it. You don't parts of it or you know parts of it.

I don't get to meet somebody in person like I've been working with Miley forever, but I see you on this little tiny my planic time. I don't turn on my camera anymore like I did in the beginning. I'm like, I can't. I do stare at myself. This is awful. I hate this. And I turned off my camera and I'll go on for when I work with kids or somebody that doesn't know me. Um, I forgot yesterday and I have a picture of my horse who was dressed up as a pimp for Halloween. Okay, sorry, I was

trying to be as pacy as possible. But he's a horse and so but that's my picture and this yeah, and so we're recording this woman from London and she's like, I'm sorry. I know I've worked with you before, but all I see is a horse. Your name, isn't it fine? Well I could put up my dog, but her ears are died different colors. Your your dog. A quick shout out to but thank you so much for we It really is an honor. We love you so much. No,

I love you guys. I mean this is my first Showpile was my heart will always be always in fever. Well you can hope, right, I mean everything's getting rebooted, right, Well they did it impossible, but they did the live action version. But I mean, like Proud Family just came in its original form with its original characters and casts. I think it could happen. I would never happened. Yeah,

I would like to happen. We I would. But we first, we just want to get the cast together because I want to meet some people, be in the same room for one considered a failure if you don't get absolutely every I want everyone's Lisa's. We got Lisa now she can. That'll be a trick. I always say that's my My wife always rolls her eyes when I say this, But I say, actors never die, they're just unavailable. Marked out, he's booked. That's from my friend George Walks movie Swimming

with Sharks. Shout out to George, shout who would you read? Who would we replace Ricardo Montale with them? There you go? Wow, that was quick. Did he well? Talked to him to put some boots like he that's that's okay. So final question before you go, And you don't have to give us a name. Okay, okay, you don't have to give us a name, all right, But if somebody said to you, who's the best voiceover actor you've ever worked with? Does somebody instantly pop in your head? Okay, you don't have

to tell us. You you can if you want, I think you yeah, okay, wanted, I'm not telling Okay, that's exactly I was not gonna. I'm not gonna put you on the hook. But instantly somebody comes in your head a huge smile on her face too. Yeah, Well, and you know what, you can ask me that and I could I could give you twenty people. Oh, I'm sure,

but but that's people you could give people. But that's what makes our talent upon talent upon talent upon talent upon talent, and talent on me Tomorrow that will add to that list. I keep a book of people I work with because I used to keep it at you know, when I was a coordinator, I would have all they have. They have databases on the Disney and Warner Brothers things, so you just have access, you know, like who was

that person I work with? I write things down now because I'm meet a million people and I'm older than I was, older than I was, and so I write them down so I'll remember, like when I cast and all this, this person is great. You know, there are people that are in my head because I've been doing this for twenty who will be the first twenty people I ever said, because they've I've worked with them for But these I also keep this other thing because there's

tomorrow you never know. So then let me follow this up with a sort of like a closing thought. We always have people that come to us at comic cons and like, how do I break into VO world? And he's he has some really great resources that he's sort of thrown out there. But I mean, what do you think what's going to give them? The brother Yeah, and the actually breaking I always say to people because the I've had people come to me, friends and my dad.

And this is an absolute true story. When I was a deek, I had just started and this guy is an attorney and and a big famous attorney. He's like, I just can I take you to lunch? I just really want to get into voice over. I'm like, are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Like I've known in my whole life, And I keep your date like, you're not an actor, Like, here's the thing, you you're an actor. Actor. You need to be an actor first, foremost, always.

Every Mike technique can be taught everything else, but actors developed characters, developed voices that we don't want you ever doing anything that damages your voice. We don't ever want you doing something that you're not comfortable doing. Actors created from themselves and and it, yeah, we strip away. It doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter you know what you're doing with your hands. Most likely I

will tell you to stop moving around. You know, when you get a lot of on camera people who think they have to gesture and move in that used to Nicole. It's all has been crazy. When we would put her like on camera, people feel like they have to like make eye contact with you. You're in the scene, so they turn away and they're a they're off Mike, but be nobody's off books and I don't know what reading.

I'm usually off book. Yeah, I'm usually having because you're improvising everything because everything is falling on the But so I always say, you know, they're like I can do funny voice them. I great, but you have to be an actor. That's we keep hearing that same thing over and over again. Yeah, I mean, very lucky that we get to dispense that advice. But d has distilled it in such a it's such a kind hearted, genuine breakdown. It's throw and Steve Bloom and Everett Oliver and all

these people who teach. I have taught a couple of Mike Everett. I'm not really a teacher because I'm not I don't come from acting. I can't teach you how to act. Right. Christie came as a sixteen year old phenomenal actress. I could work with her, and we could work together, but I couldn't teach her to act because I'm not an acting teacher. I'm my My way into KP was authentic, and that's kind of you. You helped

me along. But we we grew together, you know. Yeah, but we would come together and we would and look, she carried the show. She had the bulk of the day. Yeah, Christie, you had all the dialogue, and you were by yourself as a sixteen year old all the time. I'm going to cry. You should, I mean, so you should cry right now, crying on cue that's so sweetly, doesn't matter. I didn't do anything dynamic with my voice. But again, because you acted, you didn't need to. You didn't need

to change your voice until very much later. Sure, yes, as and then you had I can still do the voice, by the way, Yes, of course you can figured it out the technique now too. And you know you could also go at seven o'clock at night and show up on Broadway for crying out loud. You ented, but you learned how to use it right as you grew up. Yes,

and I had the support in the mentorship. I think what's really interesting is that, yes, it's if you're a voice over actor, you can't just do the voice over. You have to be the actor part. Know you're an actor. And again because that same thing we've all we've all met people I do funny voices, that's great, but you got to be an actor or the people that say, oh, you're not a real actor, you're a voice actor, like that drives me and say, yeah, yeah, I want to

Punch's just somebody who doesn't know. Well, that's exactly right, Like this is something you're interested in, then let me say go to acting, you know, or learn your craft, because it absolutely is one great advice from a great director. You, Lisa, thank you so much for coming on joining us. This

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