The Voice of Trevor Devall

was so cool. I mean, just talking to Disney Royalty, she's, you know, proud family, I ever, dude, and it's come back and like she's I've really am bombed that I missed that interview. Um, I did everything I could to try to make it happen. So you know, it's it's it's the multiple podcast life that you have that you can relate to right well, which, speaking of House House Pod mets World going, it's going really really well. Are

you guys doing live ones too? Yes, We've done one live show that went amazingly well, so I would say there's a very good chance that we will be doing more. Would be the best good I want to come to those two I should. We're so lucky that we know great people man, and we know each other, which is good too. Yeah, I know, I love I missed going to comic CON's with you. When's our next comic con? I think like there's one coming up at some point. I think there's one coming up. It's one of those

things now where Sue just has me. There's a giant calendar that is on our table that is not allowed to be moved, and everything is written in bright red ink. So yeah, she's she's she's taken over the here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna write everything in a big old calendar because my brain can be a little scattered with that stuff. So I think it's in March. Maybe awesome. Mar is so cool. But until I see giant red letters saying you have to be here in March, I

won't know for exactly. And so the contest is officially closed. Everybody, everybody out there. Guy, that was like so quick. I feel like that happens so quick. But we've got a ton of submissions, we really do. So we are so excited and we are going to find the next big voice Accory and we're not going to mention who, but um, some of the guest judges that we already have signed on that are gonna help us pick are awesome. I

can't wait. I mean some of just the most talented people that have already said, oh heck yeah, I will come into an episode. So it's gonna be so cool. I can't wait. I really can't mean too. It's a fun podcast, and I think that a lot of the people that we've even if you if you've listened to our podcasts in the past, a lot of times will be like, hey, would you come back because we have this like contest, and it's like everyone was more than happy to like you know, so uh yeah, it's we are.

We are calling through them, but we cannot wait. That does not change the fact that until the contest starts, we are still meeting some of the most prolific, incredible voice over actors in the history of the world, and today is no exception. Christie, oh my gosh, very excited about Trevor. Yeah, I am too. I've known Trevor for a very long time. Trevor and I did Guardians of the Galaxy together. We'll get into that. But he's also as an amazing Emperor Palpatine and he was on My

Little Pony. He's on f IS for Family I mean, this is a he's also a big nerd. I know it's gonna say. I saw his YouTube which is about D n D right, D and D. It's it's it's it's D and D and it's all table top games. He's got a great channel we'll get into that's called Me, Myself and Die and uh yeah, there's some great stuff. So let's get into this with Mr Trevor de Val. Hello. Hey, now that is a sexy set you got set up. What can I say? I'm a sexy background looking kind

of guy. It's good, it's good. Nice to meet you. Nice to be met. I would say the foregrounds pretty sexy, Trevor. But what are you gonna do? Oh you? How are you? Pretty good? How are you? I'm good. I'm glad that we are able to do this. We've been going back and forth about when to have you on, and I think the time it's pretty perfect. The time is nice. Time is nice. So we okay, so a little bit

about our show. We talk just about religion in politics. Hey, favorite time we talk about voiceover, and that's something that you are pretty darn good at but had a different road than a lot of people. Can you tell us how you got into v O. Uh, well, do you know the term blackmail and extortion? Have you heard of these two things? Yes? Yea, How did I get into

voice over? Um? Okay, Well, when I was about five years old, my older brother Mike used to do this impression of Jackie Stewart, who was a Scottish racecar commentator back in the day. He used to be a driver, but he turned into a commentator on his entire thing was would be very excitable, right, so I mean commentate to the relation. Of course, in those days the races were just cars going round and around around around it circles, as much as they are today as a matter fact,

that's still the same anyway. So what would invariably happen is that one of the cars would blow a tire, spin out, hit the wall and explode. And so as Jackie was, you know, uh talking about this, he very excited. Oh no, look at care forty three is coming around the Bandy's looking good. Oh no, don't. He's hit the wall and he set the flames. And that was a

big thing in Burthon fight. So he would My brother would do this thing around the dinner table where he'd have like he'd say, hey, pass the catchup and mustard and catch So it's a great deal forays. Today we've got cot Shop on mustard. Oh look at this cot Shop pulls out in nth and you do this whole thing and then oh no, that mustard hits at bar sent the flames. So everyone and I saw this, and I said, everybody laughing at this le voice, and I thought,

it's my gateway to total power and domination. One day I just kind of did the punchline and he was doing the set up, but everyone oh, and I thought, oh, perhaps I could do something with it. And yeah, so I just started doing voices and accents and stuff. But it wasn't for years and years and years years later that I realized it could be a you know, a job. Well, you're also in Canada, so there's not a lot of

opportunity for jobs, and there was in vancous. I was living in Vant to the time, which was the big the theatrical capital of the western hemisphere of the country as it is me. But I with the filmmaker at the time as well, a director, So I went to Vancouver because that was Hollywood North and uh went north

That's that's what they called it. Yeah, because especially at that time, man, because that was the days of the Hex Files and like everything was being shot up there, you know, and we got there right, Oh yeah, sure Disney. Disney would always do whenever we did a Disney movie, it would be like, hey, you're shooting a movie that takes place half a mile from your house, Let's go to Vancouver. So that's pretty much what you do Vancouver

or Toronto. Yeah. So, so we had there was a there was a big animation industry there, um and so I I went and I didn't even think because I went there to be a filmmaker and director, and within six months I had sort of fallen backwards into this strange world where people were talking to each other and silly voices and doing things and that was that. And that was two years ago. So that sounds like you were inspired by a lot of the folks around you

at that time. Well no, well, okay, so the thing is is that, you know, I grew up, you know, like a lot of people who may age, I grew up you know, watching uh, you know, Bugs, Bunny and of course all that stuff was great, and but I didn't actually think that voiceover for cartoons was was a thing. This is how this is how dim I am. When someone said to me, A friend of mine said to me, when I moved to Vancouver, he said to me, you know you should get into a voice over. I said,

what do you mean. He said, well, you know, like cartoon voices and tough and I was like, oh, yeah, those are actors. You know. The next thing I thought was in and this cartoon was you know, drawn in front of a live studio audience. I'm just didn't quite make the connected. Yeah, their their hands get very tired,

very quickly when they have to draw live. Yeah. But when I started to work, what I discovered was the same thing I would go on to discover in l A in that it's a very tiny little community, a very dedicated kookie people who love their jobs and they take their job seriously, but they don't take themselves particularly seriously. And that so happy. Um. Yeah, so in that sense, I was inspired by the people I worked with immediately was it was Yeah, it was a great world to

be part of. Now, was that when when you started v O was at it? Were you like, this is it? This is what I'm doing? Or were you still saying, hey, vo is great and this will be awesome until my acting and directing career takes off. When I did my first job, it was September and it was with Sue Blue. She was my first director, and uh, it was it can't be any twenty and can't be seen IM sorry, So what I was like, wait a second, and I did a show together before I didn't even realize. I

was that's how did there it is? That's the brain works U and he was two thousand it was, and uh it was a great that we did like twenty six episodes and three months it was like pop, get him out. And the show never made it to air because they ran it a funding, which kind of sucks because it was really cool. But up in Canada we were paid with a buyout system, so we got we got all the money up front, so that actually worked out. Yeah, exactly, that's why they couldn't afford the show. They had to

pay us anyway. Anyway, we did the show and the whole time I thought, Okay, well this is great. That's more money than I've ever seen in my life before. I'm gonna pay off my big student on which I had and that'll be that I'm gonna keep a little for a rainy day and assume that this will never happen again, because it probably won't. And and the next week they said, hey, you're on another show, and I went o, well, this will never happen again. And then hey,

you want to do this on the show. Okay, but this and to this day when I get a job, I'm still well, this is nice, but that's never gonna happen again. That's such an actor thing. We still always do that we're doing we're I remember so Trevor and I did Guardians to the Galaxy together and he was Rocket and I was star Lord, and we would look at each other even by second and third season be like, this show is not gonna go It's like, wait, it's been on the air for two years. Yeah, now this

this isn't going anywhere. I mean, that's show you got away. Such an actor thing. I mean, it's every actor has imposter syndrome. Every actor is completely and totally insecure about themselves in their career. And if you meet an actor that's like I'm gonna work all the time, you're like, you are not really in this business? Are you? Because you just don't you don't meet those people. I was.

I was in a I was in a bar, a pub after a session this many years ago back in Vancouver, and there was a colleague of mine who shall remain nameless, who was sitting there at the bar with me, and we were just coming off the high of having this great session and you know, playing multiple characters blah blah blah blah blah. And he said, you know right now, how everything's great. We're all on like six shows, you and I. Right now, this it's never gonna get this

is it's just gonna keep getting better and better. And I was like, no, that are you out of your mind? There? Listening every time every time I'm in the car with my wife and she's like, wow, no traffic. I'm like, are you kidding me? What are you doing? What are you It's not gonna rain on our picnic day? Hey? What are you thinking? Don't think they're listening there, You're absolutely right there listening. You mentioned bugs, Bunny and stuff

like that. So, having kind of fallen into the voice overside of the industry, were you not a huge animation fan growing up? Well? No, I mean, like I said, I love Bugs Bunny. Uh, But it didn't really occur to me that this was the cartoons that I watched as a kid. Bugs Bunny. Uh. What the hell was the Battle of the Planets, which was the the anime thing that was a rip off of something I don't know.

We was some gotcha, well it was. It was some giant Japanese anime that they turned into a different version called Battle of the Planets, and I watched that today. By the way, it's unwatchable. We actually, I'm sure we were like, let's check this out and see it. Holds up? Hold up? But that or like like, um, this is the old Spider Man cartoon that like back he did and stuff like that stuff. I love that stuff. But I didn't really watch a lot of cartoons as a kid.

I was I was too busy playing with my toys and giving them my own voices. You know, I didn't, Yeah, so it um, I didn't. I didn't know it was a job, like I honestly didn't know it was a career choice. It didn't even occur to me. Honestly. Doing voices was a way to try and impress girls at parties, which was only marginally successful. So I was gonna say, you went to way different parties than I did. I can only apologize in so many dialects. That's well, can

you remember the first voice you ever did? Yes? Oh you the first voice I ever did? Or when you even as a kid, Now, the first voice you ever did as a kid, you remember it might have been It might have been the Scottish because you know that that accent has. It's certainly the first one I ever learned. And uh, to this day, like when I when I book a job with that accent, I'm just there's there's a part of me that's like, oh, thanks Broke. He's he's passed on now. So it's a little like thanks Mike.

You know that was the thing that always amazed me about you was so And this is a perfect example of talking about the different kind of aspects of the voice over world, because there are people we've talked about how somebody like me, for instance, or Christie, we we don't do fifty voices. We just can't do fifty voices. Will never do fifty voices. It's just not in our DNA.

And then there's some actors that can do fifty sounds, fifty cartoon voices make it sound like, you know, there are robots or whatever, and then there's actors like you that can do a little bit of everything. But then when it comes to dialects, you can kind of do them all. So was there was that something that you gravitated tours? Was was listening to other people's voices and kind of trying to mimic them, because it's not necessarily

the same as doing a cartoon voice quote unquote. You're not going in going hey, how does everybody go that? It's more like you're doing a real Scottish thing. And the thing that I love is I would always do it next to you and it would go about thirty seconds and you go, please please stop doing that, please please please stop. It's not there. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I am Irish. You're like, oh god, please please do please cut it out, please stop. So

where did the dialects come from? Um? It is a bit of imitation. Uh. But also growing up in Canada. I was just talking about this with a colleague one the other day. Growing up in Canada, we were exposed to a lot of British programming, the BBC in particular, so I grew up with BBC News One, and I grew up with Monty Python, and I grew up with all of that stuff. So those accents were prevalent in my childhood. I just heard them all the time, and

they were easy and fun to imitate. And you know, when you when you're exposed to a dialect at a very young age, obviously you develop an ear for it and you can you know, sometimes you don't even know you're doing it. Uh But where's a lot of American friends of mine. They don't have that same experience, you know, because everything was was about American stuff, an American dialect. So I think I think that helped me. But yeah, it's weird because I can't describe how Like I can't

teach a dialect. I couldn't say, oh, this is how you do dialect x. I just it just kind of comes to me. Well, I mean, will you remember the story where we were at? Uh? So, for me, the South African accent was always this holy grail of accents. That's like all that. It's such a weird one, right, and it's like the combinations of different sounds, and I just like, I'm never gonna be able to get that one.

And then one day I'm doing my laundry and I'm hanging my shirts to dry because I I don't want to shrink them, so I hang them and as I'm doing that, I'm talking to them, because of course I am. And uh. Then I realized that I'm talking to them in a Johannesburg accent, and I was like, how did this happen? I'm hanging the wash right now, what are you doing up here? You missed their shirts? Look at you hanging there like it? And I was like, what

the hell? So I went to session the next day and we were in the in the booth and I started to talk to everybody, luck lucky just all of a sudden time of time to me from on or something like it. And then Harrison, the producer, said, do

you do that accent? I said, I guess so. And then you think asked me as Claw and Avengers, just like all right, yeah, that is the joy of our business is you sit there in the room and like you said, everyone's not taking themselves very seriously, so you're just messing around with each other, and these other accents or voices or something pop out. And then a producer in the room or a director goes that's perfect for something else, and then you're on another job. Yeah, I

mean we we said so Kim Possible. When we were doing Kim Possible. John DiMaggio, who was Dragon, was always doing these big mr drack you know, dr dracking. She got all this kind of stuff, and then he just started doing this rock and roll gut out and the next week they had written this guy named motor Ed and that's the voice he did, And it was just

something they came up within the room. And it's just that happens almost nowhere else in the industry, where you're not in the middle of shooting a film and all of a sudden you're like doing another character while you're doing the film. They're like, hey, we're going to write another film for you. I mean, that just never happens. It only happens in in the voice over industry, where it's just all creatively driven. Well, let me ask you this as the actor like, and especially this is coming

from someone doesn't do fifty voices. But I definitely done voice matching. I have a few dialects, but nothing like you, sir, sir tror Um. But yes, I've certainly does it behoove you as the actor to be playful and kind of almost like showcase these aspects of your talent. Two producers in the room and like kind of like you're saying, like you walked in and you did that. This is also for our fans in case they want to just

experiment in different ways. Yeah, I think that's crucial. Uh, it's it's crucial to constantly have a sense of playfulness about it. The trick is, of course, not pushing it too far and become irritating. You know, it's a balanceance. There are moments, and we've all been in these rooms where there's that point where an actor has gone too far and it's like, all right, we got it. You

can do this silly voice. We got it. Due payments a mata gascar When I was that room, we've all talked about at least the shaffer has talked about it. Those guys are crazy. Yeah, you were in between. It was like it was Jeff Bennett, Rob Paulson, John DiMaggio and event and eventually you just you just sit back and go, Okay, this four hour session is now gonna be nine hours because they're just gonna go at it. And it's hysterical and amazing and too long a session.

And there's things you learned to like when you walk into a room full of voice guys, there's certain things you don't do because you know, it's like throwing red meat into the room, like you know, back in the old days, if you did a thing, Oh my god, Now everybody in the room is shatter into each other, consistently doing the whole thing, and you're like now or Sean Connery and all of a sudden, everybody's doing this show and garry for ten minutes and it's like, just

stop throwing the red meat. I remember one session where every single person in the room for like an hour was just doing Eddie Deason oh well, And it was just oh my, now we're good, you're Attie. Days in it was like okay, alright, alright, we're good. Can we get back to transformers or whatever? Actually recording here it was really bad in twenty sixteen, remember, because everybody was doing the trip. Everybody was doing. But I remember who was who's a tech over at I can't remember that

the name of the guy, but he was. He was one of the regular technicians. And you know, somebody had done the thing, opened the thing and he said, great, another Trump impression. I've never heard that before and sucks the life. Okay, sorry, well what is it's you're the guy in two thousand three walking into a room going what right. It's like, okay, we we did that ninety seven.

We're good, thank you? Oh my Okay. So we were talking before you came on about uh, everything you've been doing obviously and the assortment of of work you've done. One of the coolest things that you got a chance to do, and I want to talk a little bit about it because it is such a world that once you're in, you're in is Star Wars. So can you tell us what it was like to to enter the world of Star Wars, which apparently was a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, if you believe

the propaganda. And yeah. So my first for a into the Star Wars universe as a as a voice actor was for Lego and it was a project when I was still back in Vancouver called The Yoda Chronicles, which was a series um that was kind of set in the prequel era, but it was a comedy version of it with all the Lego characters and they were casting for you know how they'll they'll send outsides and it'll you know, it's like this is you know, King Joe,

but we all know, okay, this is demperate Palpatine. We hear exactly, yeah, like okay, so I'm hearing and you hear the ref and you're like, okay, alright, I get it. Code names this secret. So I did the auditions for a bunch of them, Obi Wan and stuff like that. Eventually they called and said, well, you're going to be Emperor Palpatine. And I was like, oh wow, that that that's kind of Mike and like the the eight year

old and me was going yeah. But we went into session and I very quickly realized that this was the comedy version. It was written by Michael Price, who was a Simpsons writer, and it was gone on to become one of my good friends. Actually, he's also the producer of Effes for Family, which is a big show that he brought me in on several years back with Bill Burr and and but this is the first time I met him. And he was a Simpsons writer and he

was also a massive Star Wars fan. And you could tell because in the script there was all these little easter eggs that only true fans would get, and I recognized that immediately and went, oh, this guy knows his stuff.

This guy know the Star Wars. So when I started coming in, you know, I remember the first day we all came in, and you know, I was trying to do the Palpatine seemed very siztle veda, right, but gradually it turned into oh, eight a minute, this is basically kind of playful, yes, okay, and then my Palpatine became across between Mark Camell's Joker and Stuie Griffin little get out of my face anyway, So he quickly became this like total favorite, and the producers kept going, we need

to bring you back, and so they would write all these specials where Palpatine would just show up and I'm like, but he's like dead Dad, that's Cannon, that's like some non Star Wars canon. So it was it was tremendous. Man we did. I did a whole bunch of series, and then when I got to l A, we did The Freemaker Adventures, which was another series, and then I did a whole bunch of these specials. And there's still stuff going on which we can't talk about but this,

and it was just for me. It was just this wonderful opportunity to be a kid again because I because I'm also like Admiral ak Bar, and I was Boba Fette, and I was jar Jar Banks and I was all of these characters, and I'm like, this is kind of the coolest thing ever. I gotta say, is your highlight? Would say definitely one of them. Definitely one of the highlights of my career for sure was to be able to now, what did you do with Jargear? I gotta ask what you did with jar Jar? Oh? You know,

just the usual hor I'm you know that stuff. It's just the usual. The most popular character in the history of Star Wars, well, he Jarge are big. There's a there's a joke in one of the series we do where stars happen, says and then he immediately gets like kicked off screen or something, and as he's flying out of the shot, his line is, uh, me, something, I'd be in this show much longer. You have to you have to with Jarge are It's terrible? Oh my okay?

So justice, hashtag justice, that's the hashtag of the day. Thank you, Christy so you said, that's kind of fulfilling an eight year old dream. Other than that, then if you get to play you can play anybody you want, any character you want to do. What's the ultimate character that you haven't had a chance to play it, or even you have, I mean maybe maybe you've played the character you wanted to play. Oh boy, Um, I've I've

been lucky, you know. Uh, I've been given opportunities to play pretty big characters that even at the time, I didn't know we're big characters. Like Honestly, when we started doing Guardians cast a Rocket, I didn't know anything about the Guardian. I don't thin anybody knew anything about the Guardans of the Galaxy at the time. It was this weird, obscure thing that you know, James Gunnen brought to life because of the movie. But I remember when we were

recording the show, I was auditioning for the show. For our show, the trailer came out shortly after my audition, and my friend Sam he showed me this trailer and I was like, oh, this is a deal that, Oh my god, this is a look at this. This is a real thing. And so when we started doing the show and I realized that, you know, the Rocket Raccoon

was becoming this cultural phenomenon of the time. I thought, this is this is a this is a pretty big privilege to be in this room, and not only just to be playing that character, but be in the room with you guys as well. Obviously that was because that was my first big group show in a Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've done a bunch of stuff up to that point, but that was the first time that I really got a chance to like dive in with with you folks. So there was a it was a big deal.

Well that was I mean, that was a fun cast. Is there a different tone in working in animation in Canada than there is in Hollywood? No, it's the same thing. It's uh, it's people, Yeah, exact same. Do you think that is? Well, Ray more polite in Canada, aren't they that's the illusion? Uh? They they are the exact same kind of people. You could put the Canadian voice actors and the American voice actors in the room and the

same there there there. Like I said, they're people who are really really good at their jobs, but they don't take themselves particularly seriously. They take their work seriously, but not themselves. So it's great, Yeah, totally man. And that's like, that's why I never really got on with the the on camera side of things. One of the reasons is I never liked the world. The world to me was always very judge and and and selfish and bath and in vo It wasn't that at all. It was just empowering.

And it's also just so much more conducive to creativity. That's the thing. I mean, the on camera world there's times where it is, but it's rare. It's rare that I mean, it's more you've got to be the actor, and you've got and whereas you don't get to play, you don't get to play nearly as much. And so many creative things we talked about that have come out of just to play that happens in the room. Uh, that it does. It just takes it to an entirely

new level. So Trevor, forgive, forgive this question. But you said there was a lot of time in between, you know, you realizing that you enjoyed voices too, when you made it a career. What were you doing in that time frame. I was a theater guy for a long time and I went to University of the University of Alberta, and I became a theater director and that's how I became a filmmaker as well. As I was moving very much into the directing side of things. It was very successful.

Everything was going great, and like I said, when I went to Vancouver ninety eight, it was to be to work on the sets. I had friends that were, you know, uh, production designers and stuff like that, and so I went thinking, this is what I was gonna do, and I was gonna work my way up through the director's guild and do that whole thing. But when I got there, uh, like I said, a friend of mine from back home

it said, you should, you should do voice work. And I was like, I don't even I don't even know what that means. So I I said to my agent, um, you know, I do these voices and accents and stuff. Is there is there anything we can do with that? And he said, he gave me the speech that a lot of a lot of agents give a lot of actors, which is true. But you know, he said, well, you know the thing about the voice world is that you have to be you have to be extremely versatile. You

have to be the best in the world. You have to be bah blah blah blah blah. And I'm like, okay, well yeah, uh huh. So I went home back to Abington for Christmas or something, and I knew guys that worked at the campus radio station, and I thought I gotta put to gather a demo. I didn't even know what a demo was. I just thought, I'm just going to a bunch of nonsense into a microphone and see what happened. So I I go in there and my my friend j Who's like, we'll get you in the booth,

you record wherever you want it to be good. I went in there and I literally fifteen minutes of just doing stuff, fifteen minutes long. No edits. Of course, why would you edit? And so I brought this tape back to my age and I was like, you mean like this and you listened to it the whole thing, good on good agent, and he said, well, it's a little long, but he said, I think you might have what it takes. And so he got me an audition for a show called Spider Man, uh, for the role of Spider Man.

And I was so green. I never heard of it, and I was so green I didn't know to put the headphones in the booth so I could hear the director on the other side. I knew nothing, and so it was a disaster. But luckily a month after that, I got an audition for this chow called The Lost Continent, which I booked, and that was the one that we did episode and three months and and I was off the races. Your second audition, you booked a series regular.

That's amazing. Yeah, I was. I've been lucky man hey side note, um, Trevor, I I got married in Bants. Oh okay, that's my home province of field Love. I love. I love it there and I can't wait. We're gonna go back there next year for our tenure. N I uh. Side note, I I sometimes shop at albert sins Um, so very very similar. Uh kind of stuff. Okay, So I want to eventually get into your geekdom, your nerdom, because that's one of the things you and I have

always bonded over. But before we do that, there's something very interesting, because you have kind of an interesting perspective that I'd like to talk to you about. Um, because a lot of people that listen to our show are you know, amateur or want to be that's the wrong way to say it, but voice over actors, so they're kind of looking for direction, and you know what they can do in different things, they can learn in different techniques.

And one of the things that I'm we're trying to impart to them is that you no longer need to be in Los Angeles, or need to be in New York, or need to be in one of the mecca as a voiceover, and you do in the last couple of years. I would argue, at the height of your voiceover career, you up and moved out of Hollywood, and I'm wondering how that has affected the work the record. I mean just kind of basically your career. Has Has there been any negative to saying, hey, you know what, I'm out

of Hollywood and I'm gonna go do my own thing. Uh, yes, there has been a negative aspect of it, but it doesn't have anything to do necessarily with the move out of state. It was more the fact that when the pandemic came and we were all suddenly relegated to our home studios and a lot of people had to build home studios. You know, luckily already had one so I was. I was set for that. But what I what I realized was that the thing I love the most about

the job was gone forever. Because what I love most about the job is being in the room with my fellow cast members and in between takes, those moments of trying to make a joke so that you can't do your next take because you're still laughing at the previous joke that was that was my favorite. So that's how unprofessional I am. My favorite part of the job is

screwing up the job for others. So but but I realized that that really was that camaraderie, that that sense of family which you really do have in our world, that's gone. And will it ever come back. I don't know. There's a lot of there's a lot of directors that we both know very well who have suggested that, no, it's not ever going to come back, because the diaspora happened right where I looked around one and went, oh, I'm like one of three voice actors left, and like

everybody just vanished. My own agent said to me too, as well, it doesn't it doesn't matter where you live. Now. The caveat to that is that it doesn't matter where I live because I'm an established voice actor, right. I honestly couldn't tell you if you were new and and and starting out in this whether or not it behooves you to live in the place. I suspect not anymore, because everybody's so used to the remote records and certainly the Romot remote auditions. I mean, that's been a thing

for a long time. There was a time when you had to go into a studio to do an audition, you know. That was the time when you saw a lot of these other actors as well. But that's long gone. So I don't know what the advantage is of someone actually saying, well, you know, I should really move to l A to get into the scene. You know, so much of our world is about who you know, and it's about your your your network, and your your contacts

and your friends and your colleagues. I think it would be way harder to do that now that you're never actually in the same physical location as a person, because you don't get that human bond, right, So I think it's gonna be harder for people to break in because of that, um But it's also just the way it is, so you know, I would say a embrace the fact that this is the new technology, right, this is the new way, and work within those work within those parameters

to try and maximize your chances, which just means always make sure you're committing to the character, you're making interesting choices, you're being consistent. You know all that actorly stuff, right, that's so great actor stuff. You were good at taking regular words and making them adverbs. You were always good at that. No, I think that's really good advice. I think that's true. Unfortunately too, I know that during the pandemic, I still went into the studio every time, other than

the times I went to your studio I did. I would go into the studio and just be by myself because I still needed the vibe of the studio. But it still wasn't the same. So I I'm still hoping it's going to come back. But You're right, so many people are so scattered to the wind that even if does come back, what the cast that you're normally with are still going to be in the room. Everybody else is gone, right, And honestly, I think that's going to be the future. I think it's gonna be a hybridization

of of sessions. You're going to have half the people in the room, half the people remote, or have the people just recording by themselves. So it's going to be a much lonelier experience, I think than what it was,

which is a real shame. But it's just three years of producers and technicians getting used to this setup, and producers love it because they don't have to leave the house, right and it's cheaper in the long run, the long run, So the odds of us going back to the way it was, because I was that was a big concern of mine when I did move. I was like, well, what if it what if it goes back? What if it goes back? But I thought I'll be all right.

Let me ask you this. Do you think that you've actually gotten better over the years by being like, did you grow more as an a voice actor when you were with other people? If for no other reason than you can immediately steal their best stuff and and towards into a new version. You're basically just doing Kevin Kevin Michael Richardson over and over. Because but but I mean

you asked me if I was inspired by people? You know, I have so many sort of stock characters that that immediately come out now, which are just blatant ripoffs of stuff I've seen my colleagues do, Like he have this short old man ntch head dude, and that's a complete rip off of my friend Brian Drummond's a very successful vacouper voice actor who did that once, and I was like, that's awesome. I need to make it mine. Now. Of course it evolves into its own thing, so it doesn't

sound anything like his. But that's the beauty of it. Right now we can boast to two old men and we don't stand anything Ali anyway. Yes, theft is good, is what I'm saying. By the way, you both live like an hour from each other. You guys live like an hour from each other. I think. So it's no you guys, stop it. You're in Texas. Yeah, I'm in San Antonio. Stop I'm in I'm in Austin. Oh. Oh, I could see you. I'll tell you. I love down here. I gotta say, man, it's great. Not that there's a

whole lot of people that extra sound like this. You gotta you go, you gotta go hunting for him, but they do exist. Every you gotta go, you gotta go to West Texas or we gotta go Yeah, you gotta go in the So Austin. Austin is an interesting place to live. How how why did you pick here Canada? Well, again, with the whole pandemic madness that was happening, there was at one point there was the the choice to perhaps go home, right, to go back to Canada, but I

just didn't think. I didn't think that was the right choice because I wasn't done with the American experience yet. And then I wind up getting my citizenship. So I was like, well, now I can come and go as I please. Because I had the Green card before, which means you had to live in the country, but now as the US citizen. Ironically, now I'm a citizen, I can say goodbye if I want. So there was that thought, but I just thought, uh, it wasn't viable for some reason.

So it was like, Okay, well, I gotta get into California for again a number of reasons. But the three states that were discussed were Texas, Tennessee, and Florida. I had never been to Florida. I had never been to Tennessee, but I had been to Texas and I have a sister in Katie, which is West Houston, not very far from here. Uh, and then we've have friends in Dallas. I didn't want to go to Dallas because I just don't like the big concrete jungle of Dallas. Yeah, it's

basically a right. And I didn't want to go to Houston for much the same reason. And I didn't want to go to Austin because Austin really is l A. In many, many weeks, Austin is so l A. It's it's all the l A list that I was seeking to flee called out right now. Oh, Austin fun to visit, man, I love going there for four hours and then stabbed in the heart. San Antonio is beautiful, though, I'm excited

to come and visit. For sure. It's good. And you know what, it's boring, and I love that so boring here, it's great. People are just they don't do anything. They're just sitting around being nice to each other, eating great Mexican food. It's the best thing ever. Its sounds pretty marvelous. Al Right. So I'm known as a bit of a nerd, and I thought I was a nerd until I really

started talking to you. And then I realized, oh, man, if if the nerd, if there was military ranks in nerd, um, I was like maybe a lieutenant if I was an officer, And sir, yes, sir, you were up there as as an absolute colonel or a general. Um. When did you start? You're well, first of all, it's you're mostly table top, correct, And so when did you find your nerdom? Where did

you start your nerdom? And what's your favorite nerdom right now? Well, I played my first game of Dungeons and Dragons when I was seven years old, uh, with a friend down the street, Jason Peters, and he introduced me to this world, which I immediately just went because I was also a

huge Tolkien fan. You know, my sister read me The Lord of the Rings every night to go to sleep while I was very very young, so that we thought, we thought about those books several times, we have, we have, but but the D and D experience was just something that immediately captured my imagination and I fell head over hills in love with it, uh, And that just went on and on and on. But in the eighties, when I was going through high school and such, it was

not exactly cool. You didn't talk about it. In fact, we never publicly discussed the game. We didn't even call it dn D. We called it the game. It was oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. There was this one moment where we had all got this group of girlfriends all at roughly the same time, and we're all in my friend Trevor ladoes uh basement and we're playing this game, and all of a sudden, the girls all on mask decide to do the poppin, the poppin Jerry they did

the Poppin and we're like, oh my god. And our first thought wasn't hey, let's introduce his girls to this thing. It was no coverless stuff, hid the stuff. We know that. How about the game? Ridiculous? Right? And then cut to like twenty years later, thirty years later, Well, now everybody in their and their grandma was playing D and D. And it's it's all what all the cool kids are doing? And I'm like, no, you people have no idea. I did. By the time I found D and D. It was

really really cool fantasy novels I found very early. In comic books I found very early, but D and D I didn't find until it was awesome. See, that's fascinating to me that you were a big fantasy kid and never somehow found the road to D and D because and my brother played. My brother played too, So it made made no sense. Yeah, no, it made no sense.

I painted minish slightly because it was you know, it was a direct kind of correlation to the um uh model cars that my brothers used to build, so the tester paint like all that kind of stuff where it was basically lead uh that kind of paint, that stuff.

I was into that stuff as a kid. Um But yeah, never found dn D until much later, obviously, And then you and I started talking about all this stuff, and then you kind of introduced me to Warhammer and some of the other really cool just systems that are out there.

But you're still, oh there are. So I have this YouTube channel called Meet Myself and Dict, and I was gonna get into one of one of the things I do is this is this series called the Stages Library, which is me talking about my experiences with the literally

hundreds of games I have in my library. Because D n D is but the starter set, I'm afraid it's it is but the introduction to a much wider world and I and I really want people to understand that there are so many options out there for them to try all kinds of genres and styles and systems in the whole bit. Because I have a big passion for it. But then the big passion Dandy Boopling, what are you

playing right now? Uh? Like five different? I'm I'm running a Vampire the Masquerade game with the guys in my local group down here, which is awesome. Vampires and the Masquerade prior to the Masquerade, Yes, where you play vampires in a modern day setting, and it's awesome because it's all about politics. It's basically you take and Rice and Game of Thrones and match them together and that's what you get. It's so and so this is this the

thing that's taking up most of your time right now? Well, the channel, the Channel, because I'm doing I'm doing a whole bunch of stuff in the Channel right now, Like I said, to do the Stages Liberry. I have my main show where I play all these characters. But so so solo role playing is the thing that I got

into for the Channel, which was a total gimmick. I was like, because will you and I were talking about, you know, well, maybe we'll do like a critical role thing, we'll get some you know, when we had sort of several well, we we got pretty tried along, yeah, and just scheduling and such didn't work. So finally I thought, you know what, I think I'm just gonna do this myself.

I'm gonna play all the characters. And so I did, and I started this thing, and all of a sudden, out of the woodwork, these people on YouTube are going, yes, I've been playing solo for some time now, there's no friends, and I'm like, what, but no, this is just a joke. What do you what? But it turns out there's this huge community, and especially in the pandemic when you're now, they couldn't go over to their friend's house to play, so they and there's whole new systems where you just

you know, you played by yourself essentially. So I started doing I did like I don't know, seventy episodes of like three different seasons worth, all following the same characters. And right now I'm doing this tabletop mini adventure game called five par Secs from Home, which is a sci fi you know, battle game, but with a lot of campaign elements and role playing elements and stuff. So it's it's super fun. It's super fun. That's so cool, man, I miss that. What do you miss? Well, just the

whole again. I haven't been involved in a campaign in quite a while now, So what is the campaign? A campaign? In sight, is a game start to finish. Yeah, yeah, series of linked adventures. Yeah, like like you would read a fantasy novel, right and you'd go from the beginning to the end. Kind of. It's awesome. It's awesome. I always say it's it's it's improv with consequence, just like my favorite thing. I love that. Today. Um, well, Trevor, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you

for inviting me and you guys. Was fun. And we're gonna be inviting you back very soon because we'd like you. Well well we'll get into that later, but well we'll because the contest is closed. We'll talk, um, but we're gonna we're gonna bug you. But yeah, so of course, Trevor. Right now, what are the projects I know that we all know the voice over world, we're so used to hearing this, But what are the projects you can tell us about that people can hear you on right now?

Oh boy? Well, the one that was most recently released I think was the Star Wars Summer Special old a lego Star Wars Summer Special or Beach Special or something. It's waters to go to this beach planet. And of course Palpatine on the beach with Vader is a is a whole thing. But I get fan mail still, people writing me going, oh my god, that I just okay, that's awesome. Yeah, that that was. But other than that, really, you know, everything else is sort of in in process

at the moment. But it's it's my channel, me, myself and die, which is the big thing that I've I've been devoting all my time too. And you know, I'm about to hit subscribers today and that's what. Yeah, without that's without any kind of advertising. So that's all right, congratulations. It's a drop in the bucket compared to YouTube stuff. But for me, you know, one guy doing all this stuff, that's yeah, that's pretty awesome. Anything, uh, anything going on

in your personal life that's kind of worth mentioning. Come on, come on, Well, there's a little wedding happening. Yes, sever's getting married. What's Happeningly, it's already happened. We technically got married in April because you know, she needed to get some some healthcare, so I had to. But so you're technically already married. We're technically married. This is this is the party, this is the this is the the ceremony, such as it is, it'll be that'll be pretty quick

in San Antonio, Antonio. Yes, can't wait. It's called the Spires. We can't wait, so and I cannot wait to go. It's going to be so much fun. Of course we're going. Of course we're going. Of course we're going. So congratulations on that, and everybody go check out Me myself and Die. I think, uh, for everybody out there, I think that twenty thousand. I think we can make that thirty thousand

pretty quick. I think we should. So everybody go and subscribe to Me, Myself and Die because it is really really cool and talk about seeing just a showcase of talent when it comes to characters and voices and everything else that we love on this on this podcast. It is really worth it. And then go check out you know, I think Guardians of the Galaxy is still on Disney. Plus Rocket Raccoon is okay, but star Lord is phenomenal. Then you've got the Lego Star Wars stuff everything Lego

Star Wars f is for family. I think you can still see on Netflix. It's all over the place, so there is so much stuff out there. Trevor, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. And uh yeah, come back soon. We'll talk about that in a bit. Okay, all right, thank you everybody, and just don't ever forget. As we like to say, if you think you've got what it takes to be one of us, then step up to the microphone and put your voices

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