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Yay (S6 E10 "He's Slippin' 'Em Bread.. Dig?)

Nov 27, 202359 min
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Episode description

Luke tells Liz about April.  Although we love that scene, why doesn't he just tell Lorelai?  We discuss possible reasons.  
 
Rory and Lorelai are doing great...ENTER CHRISTOPHER.
Are we happy to see him?  Should they take the money?  
Is it weird he wanted to give Lorelai money?
This debate gets heated.
 
And, there is one storyline in this episode that we're split on.   Love it or hate it, we're torn.
Will you agree?  Hmmmmmm

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Speaker 1

I am all in.

Speaker 2

I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

Speaker 1

Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in. Poecast?

Speaker 3

Did you say pocast?

Speaker 1

I said pocast. I'm so tired right now. Is that a Freudian Thanksgiving? Freudian slip? A podcast? A pumpkin? Poecast? One eleven Productions. I heart Radio, iHeartMedia, iHeart podcast, iHeart pies LLLC Did you?

Speaker 4

Did you?

Speaker 3

I'm sorry to interrupt you, but did you even celebrate Thanksgiving? Because you're in Canada?

Speaker 1

I think they celebrated it while I was at work and I didn't notice. I think they do a different day up here.

Speaker 3

But so yeah, did you literally work on Thanksgiving up here?

Speaker 1

Yeah? Yeah, Sean Oh, I think so.

Speaker 3

It just didn't exist. Did you call home at least and say I call.

Speaker 1

Home like five times a day and then twice at night? What do you mean? Did I call home? That's all you all I do? Season six, Episode ten, He's slipping the bread, you dig.

Speaker 3

I didn't get the title.

Speaker 5

I didn't either.

Speaker 1

I like it's the tambourine guy vibe.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I didn't get it.

Speaker 4

Slipping the bread like giving them money, like referring to.

Speaker 1

Christ bread Dig. He's slipping a bread you dig?

Speaker 3

Joel the tambourine guy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Joel guy. Let's synopsize before we get into all of our many varied narratives here. Whose synopsisization is Queen's is all? I am joined by my interrapid crew Susanne French, Tara sud Amy Sugarman who if she's late, she's on time. If she's on time, she's way early my motel.

Speaker 3

Scott, you are looking like a botty babe in this episode. Sorry to be creepy. Okay, so I won't even out the person. But we we have a new producer that's not on this show but working with us. And I was with her and her mom the other day and she's like, I don't believe you work with Scott Patterson. You only if you work with Scott Patterson. He is a hunk. And I go, I know, it's so awkward. I have to like tell him.

Speaker 1

All right, we can. We can synopsize now, thanks, all right, this is let's everybody just keep their flannel on. Please just take it easy.

Speaker 4

This is season six, episode ten, He's slipping and Red You Dig. This aired on November twenty second two two thousand and five, And just a note for those that are following the timing is this was the last episode before the holiday break and the next episode did not air until January tenth.

Speaker 6

Oh good call out, Susan. So everyone excited that Rory is back. Lorelai tells Rory that Christopher called, but the news he drops gives Laurela I mixed feelings. Hep Alien is set to play a big gig, but Zach's ambitions for the band ruin everything, and Luke confides in Liz about his new daughter, April.

Speaker 4

But has yet to tell Laura. I.

Speaker 1

Hmm, half, so we discussed this queen thing. You know, I'm not trying to you know, listen, Suzanne's doing really well, but she is the new kid on the block. Terra's been around. Shouldn't Tara be the queen?

Speaker 5

There was one common sort.

Speaker 1

Suzanne could be queen consort.

Speaker 3

Yeah, what's it when you're waiting to be queen.

Speaker 4

Waiting?

Speaker 5

Actually it's more like prince. Wouldn't it be princess? Like princess Kate. You'd be a princess Kate.

Speaker 3

I will say I need to hit up Danielle. Even though she's on maternity because I did see in the comments an epic idea, because they're like, we need to know what Danielle is experiencing because she's the one who's never seen it. So I do think when she comes back, we're going to have to do like some sort of special mini series with her to catch her up.

Speaker 5

I feel like I cheated because I was texting her and asking about the baby the other day and she's following along week by week.

Speaker 1

We'll call them daniellisodes.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but she's following like she's on the same track we are.

Speaker 3

That's great. Better she better be taken notes because everyone's going to want to know what she I thought for the first.

Speaker 5

I'm not going to say what she told me, so I let her.

Speaker 1

Oh, you know, I think I think Suzanne and Tara can share the throne for sure.

Speaker 3

I know I'm not on it, neither of you.

Speaker 1

No no, no, You and I are king. You and I are not. We are are we dukes duchess where we're peasants? Damn it, damn I was hoping for higher rank you guys.

Speaker 3

Can I just throw out there that half of this episode is a ten to me and half is like, yeah, I totally. I hope we agree on the parts that were the two I.

Speaker 1

Hope we do. I hope we don't, because then we can have friction, which creates heat, get a fire.

Speaker 3

I already love this episode. Today we are a ten out of ten. You know what was funny so to start the show on our show, but that the show Gil Those pink boots were pretty iconic, like they immediately I was like, oh my god, I remember those boots. Just putting the pink boots on. First of all, her new bedroom looks.

Speaker 1

It's good, really good.

Speaker 3

You did a good job. I did.

Speaker 1

I slept in that bed wait for real. Well during the like a Map or like Netflix episodes, Yeah.

Speaker 3

I did notice that the bathroom tile is the same as the kitchen tile. Did anybody notice that like they did? Prop department might have had leftover tile because it's very unique yellow and green tile in the bathroom same as the kitchen.

Speaker 1

Humm, interesting double construction notes.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm sure they just had some tile and a drawer somewhere in.

Speaker 1

The should do like a it's like a tool time with Amy.

Speaker 3

I'm assuming the sinks didn't work.

Speaker 1

They didn't work. It didn't work.

Speaker 3

Also Laura, Well, Lauren does a lot of fake hair sort of you know, when she's acting, she does a lot.

Speaker 1

Of like hair acting. There's hair acting. Can she hair act and face act at the same time, you totally could, yeah, And could you combine it could be like fair acting or face acting.

Speaker 3

Somebody did I acting the other day too.

Speaker 1

They were eyeballs, Yeah, I acting right there you go.

Speaker 3

So I'm not sure why she hasn't met paul Anka. That felt weird to me, but okay, fine.

Speaker 1

And that opening did that opening.

Speaker 4

Drag you did?

Speaker 3

It was really long.

Speaker 1

It was off right. It's sort of like their timing was off the it just was a little off. It was good to see them together. Ye and uh yeah, just like I actually.

Speaker 3

Said to myself, Oh, sorry, targe ahead.

Speaker 5

I was gonna say that. You mean the whole sugar on the toes part.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I didn't, you know. The virgo in me did not like the spillage.

Speaker 5

Oh my god. I was like, why.

Speaker 4

Was she holding it like three feet in the air, Like why would you bend over.

Speaker 1

Poured half the ball on our toes Like.

Speaker 3

The same thing where I was like, oh, this is really messy, and that's messy because.

Speaker 5

So sticky, and then walking through the the dog might like you, but the mice you're gonna get are going to be a problem.

Speaker 1

Right, It's like the answer now, like you know, calling up the reserve troops.

Speaker 5

Also, I don't think you're suposed to give dogs sugar, So.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what's processed sugar for the dog? You know, paul Anka turns into r I p doggie. Yeah.

Speaker 3

I did like her sneakers, but the whole thing on the one shoe, all of it really did not. It was a little bit like, I'm uncomfortable.

Speaker 4

They kind of fit though, because they're just getting back together after a long separation and so things are still kind of awkward and they just feel kind of weird, so it kind of fit a little bit.

Speaker 1

I thought I thought she was playing playing a gag on Rory, but they actually went through of it.

Speaker 4

It's like she was because at the end she's like, Oh, all you have to do is.

Speaker 1

The dog was actually licking her child.

Speaker 5

I'm like, but she was like, yeah, you know, she said like the sugar is not needed, like he loves you know or whatever. She says.

Speaker 3

Yeah, is that yellow kitchen table new or is that the same table the whole time. I actually it wasn't yellow original I noticed.

Speaker 5

I was like, that's not really. It does look like a comfortable kitchen table.

Speaker 3

Yeah, just got an eclectic mix of sort of weird retro antiques mixed with clutter, mixed with like kind of nice I don't know. Yeah, very Yeah, but that was long. I thought, have I already seen the opening credits? Like it's hiding?

Speaker 4

It was really long.

Speaker 1

That opening scene was very long.

Speaker 3

Bop it. Although I love the I love the off camera sound effects that you know, like especially Scott when you're off camera, and then we heard the bop it and the hat box actually was kind of cool. That was sort of a cool, touching moment. That was a bit throughout the episodes.

Speaker 4

I did.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I like that Lenny Kravitz call out because I thought the same thing, like, exactly, how is this guy able to afford all these things? You know? But he But the thing is is he like tours all the time, k and he sold a pajillion records when you could sell records.

Speaker 3

Totally, and he's crazy crazy big venues, big venues. Yeah, sorry, but he's been around for a while.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Also I don't think he you know, his mom was on the Jeffersons, So it's not like he grew up like struggling.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean, you know he's a Hollywood kid. Doesn't mean he's rich, rich rich, but no, but he wasn't like but the guy. Yeah, I mean he's he's a monster musician and he sells out all the venues, the big one.

Speaker 3

We just saw Lenny Kravitz, I was, I said, really, we just saw him.

Speaker 1

You saw him.

Speaker 3

I know, I feel bad because you couldn't go because you were working. But he was at the iHeartRadio Music Festival.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3

That's and one of our one of our producers. He walked by her and there's randomly someone was shooting like a photo or a video on her face. It was Eileen and someone else and the face is like I love him so much. I love him so much.

Speaker 5

I like, I like just got a peek of like half of a song just because I was like, I need to see him live for like two minutes.

Speaker 3

Also, way to go Loreli that you are still rocking the way too. Skinny scarf, the purple just so so skinny scarf. That's providing no warmth whatsoe.

Speaker 4

It's supposed to be fall in Connecticut, and she's wearing like this one inch whitecar.

Speaker 3

And then they had matching blazers. Also fashion was coming and coming in hot on this episode. So okay. So then we're walking through town, Kirk's doing tai chie, which here's the thing, don't knock tight chie because I do tai chi and it's awesome.

Speaker 1

They went after tai chi on this show, and I got a little riled up.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because anybody.

Speaker 1

It was one moment the Kirk wasn't funny. Yeah, it was funny is but he was doing it well, yes it was. It was jarring, and.

Speaker 3

His outfit was good. He had a bright blue sweatsuit. But yeah, tai chi rocks. Like if you have anxiety, tight chee is great for like it's like meditation basically.

Speaker 1

Mhmm.

Speaker 4

Did you notice when they're walking past the gazebo that they still had that little tiny gazebo from the No Stop, good Eye.

Speaker 3

No way. That is such a good Like.

Speaker 4

There was like a guy sitting in there.

Speaker 3

Remember what episode was that when Kurt it was it was the Sores and Boyles Alley episode, and Kirk was sitting in there and Laurel.

Speaker 4

I was upset that they took the the the inn off the map. It was like it was a couple episodes.

Speaker 3

Oh my god, it's and with someone in it.

Speaker 4

Yeah, there was some dude sitting.

Speaker 3

Oh my god. Okay, So then we get to my one of my favorite, honestly one of my favorite moments of the episode. Hey, Rory you're back.

Speaker 4

Yay, so.

Speaker 1

Bone to pick flag? Here flag on the play? What's what's the Rory hug to Luke? It was like a half I missed that.

Speaker 4

It was like, here's my shoulder, here's.

Speaker 1

The shoulder, and it was like a block. It was like obstructing the hug. It was. She hugged Christopher full on. She hugged Suki.

Speaker 3

I don't know. I didn't have to rewatch.

Speaker 4

It was weird. It was really awkward.

Speaker 1

I noticed that I may be calling an attorney in violence.

Speaker 5

WHOA.

Speaker 3

I just was so into the.

Speaker 1

Yeah you didn't notice that, did you know?

Speaker 3

I'm going to have to rewatch.

Speaker 1

I noticed the tiles, You notice the damn color on the table, but.

Speaker 3

I've noticed it before. But the mismatched chairs in the diner, that's like a thing at Loot.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to talk about something that happened in the show.

Speaker 3

Listen, do you think the hug was intentional or just like Alexis was like, I just didn't complete the hug because.

Speaker 1

I went back in my diary and said, did I wear deodorant that day?

Speaker 5

Yeah, it couldn't have been that take or was it? Like I don't know, do you think.

Speaker 1

It was Maybe she was just trying to get through the chair real fast. But given Luke the see that.

Speaker 3

Was that was my take just not I haven't seen it, but my take is like that Alexis was like nervous about like movements she had to make and dialogue.

Speaker 5

So it was like, hey, she's given awkward hugs before, Like she kind of has that awkward movement, so.

Speaker 4

She's an awkward hugger for sure.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

My only my only flag on the play is I did find the receipt bit annoying. Look, you're talking about.

Speaker 5

The Mexican restaurant, like turn it over going and she's like, turn it do turn it out, turn it.

Speaker 3

I was like that was a wan wall for me, But whatever, I'm not here to judge. Oh wait, you are so okay? What about Scott? This is real we're seeing the beginnings of Luke hiding stuff. Nothing's new, nothing's new. Why do you ask that nothing's new?

Speaker 1

Oh well, I don't know. You know, we're getting into an odd, unpopular narrative here for Luke.

Speaker 5

Which, by the way, I was reading comments on our Instagram and I know we said like, oh, like everyone hates April, but a lot of people what they said, which I found interesting, was they don't hate the character, they hate the like what happened with the storyline and the way that Luke handles it. So I thought that was an interesting take, like moving forward on why fans are not are not fond of her storyline.

Speaker 3

So here's my tough question, Scott, knowing Luke as you do and knowing yourself as you do, say this situation happened to you or Luke, right, I understand taking a moment and sort of sorting it out before you tell the world. Do you think Luke should have told Lorlai immediately?

Speaker 1

Yes? I mean relationships are based on trust. If you don't do that, then the trust either diminishes or goes away. And we saw what happened. Now, these are situations when actors read scripts and they either step forward and say, hey, I've got an issue with this and can we discuss this. This just wasn't possible on the show. On other shows, it's possible most shows, I gather, it's not possible. On some shows, it is possible. And I think this is one such instance where, you know, I it just wasn't

that kind of show where anybody consulted the actor. They were just too busy, and it was you know, we see how precise this writing is, and you know, they justify it in a million different ways that you can't

think of, you know, that kind of thing. But you know, maybe this was an occasion where it was appropriate for somebody to step up and say, hey, let's rethink this, you know, because it's it's I don't I don't know if it's out and out long term character destruction, but I think that's what the but that's what the fans are reacting to, is because this character is so beloved and laurel ized, so beloved, and their relationship is so beloved, and this is just going to wreck it and that

and it's just sort of the way they made him hide it. It was just there was no real exper I mean, I'll watch the episodes. I don't know. I don't remember, but maybe there's a very good reason that I will find and point out and so well, and.

Speaker 3

You sort of acknowledge it. You acknowledge it in this episode with Liz, and I know we'll get to it. Things are so good and you love her right like we know that we've seen that so much. You don't want to mess it up. It's so important to you that I think you think, because you indicate to Liz like this could mess it up, and Liz says, it's not going to mess it up. But I get why you're worried about that.

Speaker 1

Absolute you know, Luke's a guy who doesn't have the best social skills or interpersonal skills within a relationship, obviously, you know it's I think it really just comes. He's not a bad guy. It's just that he got in a situation that was overwhelming. I mean, how would anybody else react to your you know, your daughter shows up twelve years later and you didn't know had a daughter.

I mean, that's a tough call. He wants you to be perfect and do the right thing, and I'll talk openly, and they don't want to consider the fact that you don't want to wreck a perfect situation that you've been sort of nurturing for so many years. And now here's you know, right at the point where we're going to set a wedding date. Right, oh boy, here this here comes this turkey you know.

Speaker 3

Well, and right now you're going off the words of a twelve year old, right, like you haven't connected with Anna, and this twelve year old comes out of nowhere and tells you this thing, which I appreciate that you're believing her, but like it does feel a little too soon just yet for you to talk to Laura about it. It maybe maybe not, Like I think you do need to talk to Amma first, get everything sort of straight, and then you go to Laura. Now he doesn't do that, but.

Speaker 1

But that's but that doesn't happen because that story isn't going to get developed to that degree, right, because it takes away screen time, screen time from what they consider to be their top narratives.

Speaker 3

Right yeah, And I think too, like some look, we always talk about the show like it's real life, which I like, But I think sometimes writers in writers' rooms thought this might be a spicy way to get something juicy going. I don't know that. They always know, Oh my god, the fans are going to hate this. I think they thought we can't just have it be happy, happy, happy unicorns, rainbows we've got We're making a show that's going another year, right.

Speaker 1

Of all the of all the options. Well, I think at that point, well maybe you're right. Maybe at that point and they knew Amy and Dan weren't getting a two year deal instead of got the offer. I don't know what stage that was in the writer's room and how much knowledge they had, and you know, whatever conspiracy theories are you're going to throw around, but you know, at season six, we were losing a little steam ratings wise, but not enough, and the advertisers really wanted us back

for long term. They wanted a long term dudes, and they were putting a lot.

Speaker 3

Of pressure, but they would have liked to see it go ten.

Speaker 1

Twenty, yeah, fifteen, you know what I mean. It's like the advertisers were crazy for this show because it was just such a safe bet for them. Totally totally and uh yeah, So the right in the writer's room, you know they're probably thinking season ten, you know, it's going to go, go, go, go, go forever.

Speaker 3

I mean, I don't know. I think as a it's a it's an oldie but a goodie. Oh throw a random kid in there, like we've seen it before, you know what I mean. It's not like we've seen it on so many shows. Literally, it was the it was the move of the eighties, different strokes backs of life. They was like, throw a kid in there, and like see how that goes family ties, Like all of those shows did that Bosby show, all of them growing gains exactly.

Speaker 1

But maybe it's a tried and true strategy that studios are aware of that work that temporarily really po the fans off, right, and but it's it's it brings them roaring back when you know the narrative changes for the positive. You know, it's like it's like pulling the So I think that's I think that's just maybe basic storytelling, you know, in serial television series television, you know, because.

Speaker 3

They have irritated by it. Yet I'm not personally. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not irritated by it.

Speaker 1

Not at all.

Speaker 4

No, I'm always kind of on the edge because I'm always waiting, like, okay, is this going to be the scene where he tells her. Is this going to be like every time they meet up? I'm like, okay, this is going to be where he says something and so I don't want to get too far ahead because we haven't seen those episodes yet, but this is like where my anxiety starts to go.

Speaker 3

Wow, were you happy I was that he told Liz. I was really happy. I did not want him to sort of stop and you knew he wanted to, and I was like, don't not tell her.

Speaker 4

I was glad that he told her, but I wanted her to push him to tell Laura I and not be like, oh, it's okay, you know if they don't want anything, lolarea, I doesn't need to know. Like I wanted Liz to be like, you need to tell Laura about this.

Speaker 3

She sort of did. I know we're going out of order, but I thought she did to the ability like that Liz has.

Speaker 4

True.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I thought that scene was very touching me too, And I like that she knew very touching.

Speaker 3

I thought so too, And I like that she knew it was Anna that she calls out like she First of all, she wasn't upset. She wasn't she didn't. She just came from a great place of love and that she says, like you're a serial monogamous like and then she also was so like, Laurala's gonna understand because Luke didn't know. I think we really have to remind ourselves. Like he didn't know, and so he's imagine any of you finding out you have a kid, you would be so overwhelmed.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Like, Luke's like a train on a track, Like he's not gonna just randomly steer in a different direction. He's going the way that he's going. And I think this completely just threw him off his axis and he's struggling to make it make sense. And I think that was part of the whole scene with Liz was he's like, I have to reach out to somebody to kind of get some grounding here and figure out like what is normal here and what is not normal here?

Speaker 3

So yeah, good point, Like he's trying to figure out am I feeling what a normal person would be feeling?

Speaker 5

But I did like Amy you called out that her reaction was so calm, like she didn't if she freaked out, Luke would have freaked out, And I think it came kept him a little level headed.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite scenes. I agree with Kathleen. That scene really touched me.

Speaker 3

I thought so too, that these are definitely the ten parts of the episode. We haven't gotten to my two okay, so just to go back so we don't miss anything, I think we should acknowledge the jinxing and the unjinxing.

Speaker 1

Oh that was good.

Speaker 3

I like that cute. It's very child like. It reminded me of like in Big when he's like, should me shimmy cook?

Speaker 1

And it was Laura at her childish best. Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, And it was cute that Lane and Rory have something like that, and it was sort of it was fun, So I was all good there, and then I thought it was good to call out. So I think Rory says, as long as you're prying, and she talks about the break, they're just on a break hiatus Logan and Rory. So those are all important because we get to on later. Okay. So we go to the kitchen at the inn and I did notice. I'm like, why are those paper tels so prominent? Did anybody notice that?

Speaker 5

I did?

Speaker 3

And then I realized it was all part of that prat fall, right, So like I don't know. I can't remember what instigated the prat fall, but all of a sudden, the paper towels are flying and the dudes going back. So I was like, ah, now I get it. Yeah, so they were all happy to see Rory, even Michelle Rory.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and then he catches himself.

Speaker 3

He was hyperventilating, was over the top. But otherwise I was okay with them.

Speaker 1

You know, now that's she. That's her, her dynamic best, her comedic best. She's She's amazing. She really truly is. It was very, very funny.

Speaker 3

How about the fact that we're like write and sync. I mean, because I did watch this a few days ago, so it's like it's Thanksgiving and it's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4

Yeah. I like when that when when it lines up like that.

Speaker 3

Tara put in our text, She's all, hey, guys, like this episode is so perfect. It's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5

I was on the treadmill of watching it and I was like, wait a minute, this is perfect week.

Speaker 3

Okay, so now we get to what is my two? I don't know if you agree, Scott. All the hep Alien stuff for me was.

Speaker 1

Not end Sorry I disagree. Funniest Okay, I know some of it was annoying, but there was a lot of it I really liked, really for me, for me. Okay, so first of all, the line, the Sebastian Bach line almost made me fall off the couch. That was so gil.

Speaker 3

I love Sebastian Bach. Like all the scenes would have been zero's for me with I'm like, he at least makes this funny and seem real. It was. It was Zach being so unhinged and I.

Speaker 1

Get it, but at least, but at least they gave the band a good story, right, Yeah, and they gave him a lot, and there was momentum and it was like, oh God, I wonder if they're going to get the record deal and oh cool, you know, let's see how the performance goes. And yeah, Zach flipped out and that was weird. I think it was more cringey and weird than funny. Yeah fight because.

Speaker 3

Except for Joel, you know, the.

Speaker 1

The but it's like Zach is just so blatantly sabotaging that evening with Gwen Stefani headset.

Speaker 5

And then they'll.

Speaker 1

Bring a new guy into the band on the night of your biggest gig ever. It's just like a new energy there all of a sudden there he is. No, that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3

Ever, can anybody figure out why?

Speaker 1

It's strange? Credulity? It was believable, right.

Speaker 3

So why is he writing all the songs about the girls' names. Lane's obviously upset about it. Then Brian writes the great song about Lane. It's all sort of just like.

Speaker 1

That wasn't a great song. It was a couple of dobe chords.

Speaker 5

It's really funny. The timing of this was so weird. I was scrolling on TikTok and there's this group Amy you may know, Jack and Jack, and they were like one of them's in a relationship and one of them's not, and the other one said that like he takes inspiration from the other one's relationship, and oh wow, girlfriend, And the timing of this episode, I was like, I guess in modern day it's not that weird, Like.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's people do it. I'm sure all the time. Yeah, I think songs.

Speaker 1

Well, let's talk about the in pro breutness of Zach writing love songs or sex songs about other women that he's dated when he's dating Lane. To artists do that, I'm sure, I probably, I don't know. I mean, he does it, but it's like.

Speaker 3

Taylor Swift is definitely dating somebody and.

Speaker 5

Charles Kelsey but releasing songwriting.

Speaker 3

About John Mayer. Yeah right, Harry Styles right. Yeah.

Speaker 5

That's why I didn't think too much of it. I just was like this, I agree with you, Amy, Like for me, I didn't care for the storyline. It took the episode down a notch. But I think that's why. It was these little things where I'm like, well, the music industry is, like, I guess it is what it is, you know, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3

And like it's all. It just was like a lot of sort of like really and then Lane like, okay, so we'll just talk through the whole thing. So first of all, they go to the record store and Carol King's there again, and and that's where.

Speaker 1

We hear she's Carol King was Nail's.

Speaker 3

Great, and Zach's just getting more and more unhinged. There were parts of the gig, you know, the showcase that I thought was sort of amusing, but I was irritated. I was like, get playing, dude, he start playing, You're such a fool right now, and I almost wanted to say, d word, you're being such a jerk.

Speaker 1

But it was odd. It was an odd choice to make to complete, you know, turn Zach into that big of a flaming you know what. It was crazy. It was just crazy and crazy. Now he's jealous of Brain because he's working on a Lane song.

Speaker 3

It's happening there.

Speaker 4

Yeah. I thought it was a little bit of a stretch as well, Like you said, Scott, a kind of strained credulity because this one night he knew how important this was, like a label was there, this was their shot, and he got all unhinged about Brian and I just thought he wouldn't have done that. Really, this is what they had been working for the whole time.

Speaker 1

There's an old saying, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. And the heat was turned up and Zach got out of the kitchen because he couldn't handle it. You know, he just melted down. Like I've never it was hard to believe that anybody would melt down that bad. Thats a situation unless they were like hooked on substances or something.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Like, he's not going to screw up this opportunity, no at all. And bringing first of all, the Gwen Stefani had.

Speaker 1

I mean it was hard enough to believe, you know, in that Tom Hanks starring movie that Tom You Do that Thing You Do, which is a great movie by the way, great movie, great songs, all that stuff, but that Jonathan's sketch character, is it Jonathan sheck? Sorry, that was even It was difficult to accept that ay that had that kind of national recognition was going to blow

up the band. But there you go, there's like, you know, there's egos and then there's egos and right right right and talk about you know, a first class d bag to live Tyler, right, I mean, geez, So maybe that was the inspiration. I don't know, yeah, right.

Speaker 3

The brawl though, where they're all brawling, was not funny for me, Like I kind of was like, oh until I did giggle at Joel when the curtain's closing and it's like there's a Joel. So that was something that brought me back.

Speaker 5

And Rory with her camcorder, just like standing in the row, I was so distracted by the brawl.

Speaker 3

I didn't even see that.

Speaker 4

Oh the very beginning of the fight, like that when they were showing Rory and behind her the sound guy he like leans back and he like puts his feet up on the desk or something. Need like, the look on his face was hilarious. It's like, oh, yeah, they are another.

Speaker 3

So I don't know. I feel like, okay, we've talked about that enough. And then like I although it did, I was. I did have a sort of a pang of pain for Lame crying and being like what happened? Like what are you doing? You ruined her?

Speaker 5

I did for her in that moment, like in the alleyway.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I thought Kiko did a really good job in that scene because she disbelief, like what did you just do? I thought she was I thought she did it.

Speaker 1

Really it was the only scene that was believable.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agreed.

Speaker 3

All right, so we're kind of going out of order, but that's okay. I think we should talk about Christopher and just all the Christopher stuff because I was glad to get the payoff of the.

Speaker 1

Were you were you in as much pain as I was?

Speaker 3

No, Sae, because I still like Christopher.

Speaker 1

We're not going to agree on this. I needed a barf bag to watch those scenes.

Speaker 4

I really did.

Speaker 1

I mean, if if there was anything more obnoxious than Christopher unsuccessful, it's Christopher with money, you know, and bubbling with wealth.

Speaker 4

I think you're saying, I'm loaded. Should be a drinking game because he would all be on the floor.

Speaker 3

And how much money do we think he has? Well, that's what's all taking.

Speaker 5

It confused me because he comes from money, right, so it's not but I.

Speaker 3

Think they he's got like Gilmoury parents that don't give it to him.

Speaker 5

Yeah, But like up until he was what seventeen, he did grow up in a very wealthy family. So the way he was acting was if again.

Speaker 1

He never he'd never get his hands on it, right. I think that's not the type of guy that's going to give his loser son any money.

Speaker 3

And he had total control. He has total control over it. Now my gut is he got what do we think ten million?

Speaker 1

Oh more than that?

Speaker 3

Do you think?

Speaker 1

Oh? Yeah, yeah, I think he got fifty million.

Speaker 3

Dollar, not one hundred million million because he said he never has to worry about money again. But I know he's not like a billionaire. I'm going he.

Speaker 1

Ye, I'm going money fifty to seventy five.

Speaker 5

He said he put everything away for his daughter already that has like way more money to spend on Laura l Rory.

Speaker 3

All right, I'm going twenty million.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he got a few money, did because.

Speaker 3

You figure the grandpa had one hundred million and the parents don't need any of it. What did we decide the Gilmour's were worth one hundred million, no, fifty million, But the Huntsburgers are worth like a quarter of a billion or something?

Speaker 1

Yeah? Probably, Yeah, a lot of dough, A lot of dough, not of doray mean.

Speaker 5

Actually I actually just looked it up. There's I mean, I don't know how accurate this is, but apparently the Gilmours are worth upwards of fifty million.

Speaker 3

Okay, And what about the Huntsburgers. I think the Huntsburgers are like quarter of a billion. They're definitely more than the Gilmoars.

Speaker 1

Well they're yeah, I think they're I think they're half a million.

Speaker 3

Two hundred How Google? How much money did Christopher get from his grandpa? I don't know, see what it does?

Speaker 1

Everybody? Wait, well, if he was that happy, then it was a lot.

Speaker 5

Right, It's a lot around fifty million.

Speaker 3

Fifty millions. So Scott, you nailed.

Speaker 1

It, kind of kind of nailing.

Speaker 3

I still was amused by the Okay, so with the Christopher lorelaies scene like I always like them together, and I still thought he was sort of funny with the life.

Speaker 1

I don't. I don't. No, it's not just Luke saying this, it's me the critic saying and I don't like them.

Speaker 3

Together by people don't, I do not.

Speaker 1

It's cringe for me. It is.

Speaker 3

It's just like I prefer you, but I'm not. I have something about it. I still like their chemistry. But I mean he's like, who did you want to castle? You know, like all that jazz and then him noticing the ring. So that's in the second with him. Yeah, but it was like, okay, all right, he wants her to be happy. Oh, Scott, you're just hate what's coming?

Speaker 1

I know what That line, I just want you happy is just talk. It's all talk, true Aulterio motives. I know it, I feel it. I don't know what. I don't know what episodes, it's just yeah, he's just really Oh you're about to just.

Speaker 5

Not Yeah, I'm not going to bore everyone this with this, but I'll just put in our group chat. But there's a whole article on everyone in the shows like their characters rank by wealth.

Speaker 3

Oh please us give us that I want to know, give it, give it quit?

Speaker 5

So, Laura, I assuming that the dragonfly made somewhere around fifty thousand dollars as a manager at the independence end, and the salary would have increased from there, Suki between forty five to eighty a year as a chef. Okay, Kirk with his fifteen it says, with his fifteen thousand jobs, is probably worth about two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because remember he had all the money for the down payment on the twig for Luke.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's he he with his savings, he's has about five hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3

I think he has more.

Speaker 1

Yeah, keep them.

Speaker 5

And then with with Christopher, it says, assumed fifty million with that inheritance. Wow, the Gilmore.

Speaker 1

Is a logan.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 3

What about the Huntburg Oh I'm getting there.

Speaker 5

So okay, so uh go faster the Sorry it's a long article.

Speaker 1

I'm excusing we're not going to read the whole article.

Speaker 5

Hunsburgers are I mean about two hundred million dollars a year, that's what they're bringing in.

Speaker 1

The Huntsburgers bringing two hundred million a year, and they're worth a heck of a lot more than.

Speaker 3

There were like a billion. Yeah, so they're billionaires.

Speaker 1

Oh sure, yeah, yes, yeah, well.

Speaker 4

You're on fire.

Speaker 3

Okay, so you're on fire.

Speaker 5

Best It's like it's a long article of skiing.

Speaker 3

Was getting a little dull, all right, okay, okay, back to first of all, total random Buddy Hackett shout out, like no one cared what Hacket done.

Speaker 1

But it was sad because he was such a beloved guy and he'll always be alive.

Speaker 3

And then there that was a funny scene where Rory really talks about why she doesn't want to take the grandparents' money and lauralize like am I in a Freaky Friday? Like that was a funny scene. Good, good, just banter there. Forty thousand dollars sex?

Speaker 1

What's just what does that mean? What doesn't even.

Speaker 3

Remember they built the whole house and then they found out it was her sex house.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so like thousand dollars sex house born? Forty thousand dollars are you talking about?

Speaker 3

So we kind of talked about the Liz and Luke scene. So now we're really at Thanksgiving and we you know, she comes clean. Now interestingly, she comes clean to Luke about Christopher after the fact.

Speaker 5

That's so that was my flag.

Speaker 3

So I stand by that Luke hit. There should be no issue with him getting everything sort of figured out and situated and then telling her because that's what she does.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I don't blame it. I'm like she should have told her. She should have told Luke like, hey, I am going to meet up with Christopher. This is what happened. I want to let you know before it happens. Not I got all settled. We met twice, you know, like not even once. Twice She met with Christopher by herself and then with Rory. It had to be over the course of what like a couple of days.

Speaker 1

Maybe think she should have consulted with Luke before she even met with him.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I think if anything, just be like, hey, he wants to talk. I don't know what's going on, but I want you to know. Maybe not even I don't think Luke needs to go, but at least to know that they're meeting up and then be like it wasn't about me, it was about Rory and him taking care of Rory and that way he knows the process of it happening, Like to just dump it all on him and like Luke couldn't be mad because of.

Speaker 1

Well, you know what, that's a big discussion and her just standing there at an inopportune moment during a Thanksgiving celebration, pulling him off to the side and explaining what happened and then that's it and that's not even going to be a discussion. Yeah, and putting Luke in that situation, I think is disrespectful.

Speaker 5

No, I agree.

Speaker 1

I think, Oh, that's a big deal. Somebody drops in all that money all of a sudden that's so connected to her emotionally, and you know by actual DNA that that's a big conversation between a committed up that's living together and engaged, because that kind of money can destroy your relationship or any kind of intervention doesn't even have to be a lot of money if it What if it's like the ex husband comes back, you know, the flaky es loser ex husband comes back and he wants

to you know, you know, contribute to this or contribute to that, and not even in a big way. Right, it's still like, why is this guy in our lives? What is going on all of a sudden? Now you know he's using money to wedge his way in somehow can't you see? I mean, where are those scenes? Right? So, well, do you think I actually do have a big problem with it? I think I think, I think?

Speaker 3

So what if you think about your response? I think that's absolutely great. He's her dad, glad he's doing it because he's guilty of.

Speaker 1

Doing it himself. And I think the fans are smarter than this, and they're like, why are these two characters being destroyed before our eyes? Why are they behaving this way? They're supposed to love each other and respect each other and trust each other, and now that is all go going to go away because in the real world, nobody acts this way, right, nobody's going and if they do, there are dire consequences. This is the kind of stuff that ends relationships. And the fans know this.

Speaker 5

So do you think that Christopher should have gone straight to Rory instead of going to Lauraise? She's an adult.

Speaker 3

That feels weird to me, though, I think Christopher.

Speaker 1

Lurl I would have been justified to be pissed off, right, Why are you going to Rory with all this money? You come to me first, pal? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with so that I can discuss it with Luke. But you know Luke is Luke has given half a hug and no conversation. It's not being considered.

Speaker 3

I think that it's Christopher. Look, it's a little weird that Christopher's off offering Loreli money, do you know what I mean? Maybe a little bit. It's not weird that he's offering his daughter money like that technically sort of is her money, right, so like he should pay for school, he should buy her a car, he should by her her first house or her first apartment whatever.

Speaker 4

When he first approaches it with Laura, I he's the way he said it, and I think I wrote it down. He said, oh yeah, okay, So he says he talks about everything he did for Gigi, and then he says, and now I want to take care of you, and then he adds you and Rory.

Speaker 3

That was weird, like he he didn't.

Speaker 4

Come out saying I want to take care of Rory. He said I want to take care of you, meaning Laurai, and then Rory was kind of like an afterthought, which is typically Christopher.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 4

Oh, I was gonna say, I think the thing with with Laura I telling Luke. I think plot wise, she couldn't tell him right away because it wasn't going to work. If she told him before he knew about April, he had the reaction that he had because he was thinking about April and how he should be a dad to.

Speaker 3

So if she had told him too soon, he.

Speaker 4

Would have like freaked out and blown up like he did the first time Christopher's name came up.

Speaker 1

So I think there was any insane, healthy individual. Wo wash, somebody's trying to drop in all this money and invade your relationship, you.

Speaker 4

Know, Yeah, So I think there was a timing issue there.

Speaker 1

Listen, the classy move, okay, would have been, if you want to take care of your daughter, you want to take care of your uh beloved Laureli, you do it anonymously. You do it, you do it in some clever way where all of a sudden, and you don't sit there and take all this gloating credit for it right in their faces and aren't I a great guy? And now I'm going to screw up your lives? And I know

I'm going to screw up your lives. Because if he doesn't understand how much of a nuclear bombness is on Luke and Laureli's relationship or on either of their lives. Then he's an idiot and he's got no feelings and he's got no empathy. Right, I stand you. It's a really manipulative move. It's super manipulative. And I agree with you on what a creep, what a low life like coming swooping in to their lives. And I'm rich Hey, I want to take care of everybody. Really, you a whole, she's got a really.

Speaker 3

Agree he should take care of his daughter finding.

Speaker 1

Anonymously, anonymously, anonymously. No, no, I don't care. He hasn't been her dad, and he should do it anonymously. She should just call Yale pay the damn bills. I don't want anybody knowing that I did this. You can contact Emily and Richard so that they don't have to do it anymore, But I don't want anybody know knowing that I did this. And then he sends a message or an anonymous message to Emily and uh Richard and says that you know you're you're under no more obligation to

pay for that tuition. It's taken care of. Signed it on.

Speaker 3

A gesture. But look, I do think it's weird to call up your former like baby or your baby mama, your former girlfriend who's engaged and offer money.

Speaker 5

Yeah it's weird. Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 3

Kind of inappropriate, right, I get it. I get where he's I do think he has the best of intentions. Or maybe he could have offered to pay her back for some of all the money she spent to raise Rory. What There may be a move there, But for me, it's totally fine that he's calling Rory and saying, I now have money, and I want to pay for school, your car, I want here. There's money in a bank account for your future, your retirement, your down payment on

your first house, whatever it may be. As a father, I do think that is sort of him. That is an obligation, if that's the right word, And if he's doing something for Gigi, he should do the exact same thing for Rory. In my opinis, Okay, they're both his kids.

Speaker 1

But doesn't he have an obligation to to not met.

Speaker 3

Current money's meddling. I think he's doing something for Gigi, he should say I've put aside five million dollars for Gigi. You have the same you are my kid. There should be nothing that Gigi gets that Rory does not get.

Speaker 5

And Also, he didn't support them while Rory was growing up, so this is kind of making up for it, like let him pay for Yale.

Speaker 4

And he also doesn't know that she's in a relationship, but he doesn't know necessarily that she's back with Luke.

Speaker 3

Right, But I still think it's weird that he's like offering Loreli the money. It's just all about Rory.

Speaker 1

That is our kid, Yes, trying to buy his way back into her heart.

Speaker 3

You're right, You're probably right, is probably right.

Speaker 1

You're probably detached from reality that guy is.

Speaker 3

You're probably right on that. Yeah, So okay, two more scenes we have to talk about Harris and Rory. That's a funny, sort of just a little amusing scene that teas up something coming, so it's kind of important. But I liked that Honor Huntsberger called I know, although it was gut wrenching to Rory to realize that Logan said they broke up. When Honor refers to Logan as young Seacrest.

Speaker 5

I thought of you, Amy, I thought I.

Speaker 4

Texted you, And I'm like, I don't know if she's watched again, I'm going I must have forgotten about it from when it happened because we must have like called it out.

Speaker 5

When is this like peak American idol?

Speaker 3

Yes, because this is two thousand and four, right six and this is two thousand and six, So yeah, I had a launch like in two thousand and one.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it was like the hair like I kind of. I was like, oh yeah, and.

Speaker 3

Matt Zukrie is a little bit seacresty. I was like that was rad. And then uh, you know, we see Luke go into the like what's this? What are the things called where you put food? Why is the name out of my head?

Speaker 1

What?

Speaker 5

What you know?

Speaker 3

The room where pantry in the kitchen?

Speaker 1

That's the kitchen back there.

Speaker 3

He tried calling He tried calling Anna, which, by the way, how about the shout out to for one one for us one to be connected? And we all used to do it, and I think it was expensive and we were all dumb dumbed because I think we got charge of quarter every time we freaking did that. And suddenly on your phone bill you're like twenty to for one one. Remember you'd call four one one and go Domino's Pizza? Can you connect me?

Speaker 5

Like, because he couldn't use the internet to look up the phone number, I was going to make a point about Luke without his uniform on before I was bombarded with inappropriate comments, he does seem like.

Speaker 1

And given the situation, but he does seem like a very I mean that hat and the flannel and the diner and his attitude all seemed to work together, and it all kinds of work. It all kind of works, right, you accept it. But without the hat, without the flannel, and he's sitting there and he still looks like Luke, but he's got that stank look on his face, right, he's yeah.

Speaker 3

Like so do you kind of think of the flannel and the hat as like his coat of armor or his cape or whatever.

Speaker 1

He takes it off and he disappears like he's just a yeah, he's just like geez man. I mean, he couldn't even smile once when he was sitting at that thing.

Speaker 3

I think he's so stressed about April.

Speaker 1

No, obviously, but still, I mean covered a little anyway. I don't know, I got I'm throwing a flag on myself maybe for.

Speaker 4

Okay, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3

What yeah, I mean it's complicated, Like I don't know how I would be.

Speaker 1

It's like when fans come to a comic con every once in a while and I'm not wearing a hat or anything because I don't wear the hat. Usually they get disappointed, and I think I was a little disappointed Thanksgiving tale scene that he.

Speaker 3

Was bro, there's your flannel. So what is our favorite lines?

Speaker 1

Oh? That's easy.

Speaker 4

Oh yeah, you like oh, there's no.

Speaker 1

The gill line. Yeah, anyway, Susanne, what's your favorite line?

Speaker 4

My favorite line, surprisingly is from Christopher, given how much I don't like Christopher, but I laughed when he said when he was telling Laura they were at the restaurant talking about all the things that he could do with his money, and he says, you can crush people with money. You want some people crushing money?

Speaker 3

That was cute, bobs that stickers. I was like, what, I still like young young seacrests.

Speaker 5

I love the scene with Pair and she's like, I'm coming and Paris Is like what's that sound like? Just like so just like cold, and I just love Paris so much so and she's like.

Speaker 3

Call back to such a callback.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and she's like, well, of course you're coming back, and what else would you do? Like, I don't know, I just love Paris.

Speaker 3

Oh my god. That was good. Paris. That's how I want Paris.

Speaker 4

To be always.

Speaker 5

Yeah, and it wasn't funny.

Speaker 3

Came back to like her bad drum roll?

Speaker 1

Yeah, Amy, what's your favorite line?

Speaker 3

Gosh, I stink I'm still with young Seacrest.

Speaker 1

I like that.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Like.

Speaker 3

You know, I have to say, though, my favorite was Liz and Luke. I think that scene. Oh and then you know, if I had to pick a banter, it's when Rory and Lorelei are discussing how she wants to be out from her grandmother's thumb and the Freaky Friday, and that every line was really entertaining to me in that sort of ping pongy.

Speaker 1

All right, say what are you giving it? What's your measuring stick?

Speaker 4

I thought this was a good episode. I'm going to give this nine sugar toes.

Speaker 5

Oh got one? Uh, it wasn't my favorite, so I'm gonna give it eight.

Speaker 1

Oh my god?

Speaker 5

What else was in this episode of like blanking eight turkeys for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1

Amy?

Speaker 3

Nine? Yakov's total shout out to ya? What's his name?

Speaker 1

I'm gonna give it. I don't know. Is it in the Nines?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 1

It was. It was very It was actually very enjoyable. Yeah, I gotta tell you anything that gives me that many laughs, I mean like good belly laughs. You know you gotta go nine seat. I want to go nine to nine five nine three uh, and I'm gonna go uh nine point three suky backhand fists to the poor assistant.

Speaker 3

And paper towels flying good one.

Speaker 1

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