Why are you telling me this? (S2 E9, "Run Away Little Boy")

the mail we get. Those are the emails we get. It's Riley available. I just wanted to talk to me. She's like a voiceover star. It's like becoming a superstar. Danielle knowledge, her knowledge of pop culture, it's unbelievable. Danielle, how are you doing? I'm and just Pete good. Good to see Amy Sugarman. There she is for this episode. It was a great episode. And it's and you talked to him just a couple of days ago. But it's the farewell of tritic. It's it's just uh, it's just

an amazing episode. I don't think I've laughed at you know, the last two have been laugh riots. It's just like one liner after one liner after one. You know. I started writing them all down and then I was like, yeah, put your pencil down. I want to enjoy the episode. That is so true. I have been watching them twice because when I take my notes, I missed that. So then I do it against I can really like enjoy it.

Now we know why people rewatch the episodes because it's they're so packed with one liners and great funny bits and you know, uh, I don't know. It's just and I have an amazing surprise. Actually it's an amazing surprise. We have no idea what. So we're getting into wardrobe a little bit. It's like, you know, we're trying. You know, we're talking to Brenda may Ben. We're discussing wardrobe, and it's like kind of a thing. Now right on the show, guess what. Guess what I found in the archives in

the museum, in the library. Remember the Luke shirt in the diner, the brown Luke shirt in the dinner way. There it is. That's it. Oh my god, that's it. Now technically, did you steal that? No, no, no, it's it's just borrowing. I have not taken possession. I haven't taken possession. I know it's been what was that two thousand and two, so it's almost its nineteen years and I've been borrowing it. I have a special plan. Look

at that there it is gonna say. Yes, I was going to say, that's the real one, like the real real one. That is the shirt. It was in the garage every time when I when I pulled an to the garage, I see it. It's like, you know, because we're not fully unpacked yet, so there's like there's and there's like a bunch of Gilmore stuff in boxing. That's a good one to a great shirt. Can you imagine if you wear that down the street and like fans

are just gonna go, oh my god, that dude. And now I couldn't find the gray long sleeve thermal that goes underneath it, but I did find a blue one, and that is show specific. Also, Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it's the holidays. I just want to put smiles on faces. Wait, that's awesome. Actually, that is awesome to hang on because I think Henry Winkler just sold the Fawns jacket for like a million dollars. I wonder how much that I think it would be the hat that would sell right yea,

Oh my god, it fits kind of fits. It's still kind of snug too, like like like the one on the show. It looks great. You like you like dating those young, casual young guys. I think those boy scouts should move over. I mean you need to have a crossbar so wrap the shirt. That's the shirt. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh my god, that's actually very cool. I have a lot of wardrobe. I have so much wardrobe. I have the pants too, of all kind of stuff. Now when I try to fit into those pants that for those

the original pants, oh that's that's not gonna happen. The original pants. They're not going on. It's like they get about halfway up and it's like, you know, I will vouch that the shirt fits perfectly. So for anyone wondering twenty years later the shirt fit, don't worry. We will post this on Instagram and you guys can see for yourself. Yeah, that's awesome. Run Away what does it? Run Away little Boy? It is run Away a Little Boy episode nine anyway, So no, no, this was just such a fun episode.

It was so much fun and it was so hilarious. And I too did not notice how young that guy was that was flirting with Laura because she looks young, you know, so it's a it's a little you know. They made her look a little young. I mean, obviously she was a little older than him, but not too obviously. But they put she had pigtails almost throughout the entire episode, which I thought was interesting because it did make her look young. But then they changed her hair in the

diner when they wanted to show the contrast. And and I gotta tell you, and that's so so anyway, let's let's set up the uh and Daniel, I think you're gonna do the run? Are you gonna do the uh? The what do you? What? Are we calling this thesis ahead. I will fill in for Riley So season two, episode nine,

Runaway Little Boy, air date November one. The synopsis is when Rory and Tristan are cast as Romeo and Juliet in a school perform, A jealous Deine insist on attending every rehearsal, forcing Rory to beg Tristan not to tell Dean about the time they shared a kiss, while Lorela has to put up with Luke's teasing after after she

dates a much a younger guy. I tell you, I think the the W beer the c W at the time saw how well the interactions and the drama and the comedy and all the passions that were going on in Gilmore with the younger with the Chilton crowd, and they were like, let's make a young person. I mean it was a young you know, it was for younger. Excuse younger anyway. But so then Chad stars in One Tree Hill, right, and it becomes a ratings juggernaut over there along with us. But I think I think they

I think they were even bigger than we were. Um, I mean I know maybe no, no, actually no, no, now that I remember the numbers that we used to get, I think we were number one and they were number two.

But at times they would overtake us when we were weakening in the numbers and certain sections of certain seasons, and that cast just became so like they were like that young Hollywood right exactly, so um easier to market and they had more energy to go out and market themselves and publish themselves or as the old folks were just sort of like nah anyway, Um, A lot of

fun watching this episode, So let's get into it. Well, so my first question for you is what did you think of Lorelai going on the date with the young guy? And I will admit he did look older when he had his blazer on with the arm patches at school and sort of the way Luke reacted then Suki saying to Lorelai, how do you not know he likes you and you're dating everybody but him? So, like just that

whole arc throughout the episode, what did you think? I thought that that wasn't particularly justified because it's really not on her. I mean she she hasn't really turned me down, has she? No? I haven't really, I haven't really asked her. I mean I kind of have, but We've been interrupted a bunch of times, right, but I've never followed through it followed through. So it's not fair to her because I mean, look, I'm the guy and like step up and you want a date or dat. It's like, you know,

start stop worrying about all the other. Yeah, the brief moments where you almost did it, she was definitely gonna say yeah, she was gonna say yes. She would have said yes. But she's doing that because I'm you know, I mean, I don't have the stones to step up and and close the deal for God's sake, or you're both just very concerned about ruining the French. Come on, you know that's that's just an excuse that people use

because they don't have them. Got to get some stones, Like if you if you really so, do you blame Luke, like you think that the reason it's taking so long is because Luke just won't do it well. It's also the circumstances everything we talked about. But yeah, it's like step up and it's hard. You know, it's hard to write that. You know, it's hard to write that for four seasons to milk, milk, milk, so the so, the audience, it's just like it's driving people crazy, but it's it

has to be done. It worked beautifully. It's important that even though the date was like a total flop, you know what I mean? She says something like we had finished talking about everything by the salad, it did change her the way she felt it. Suddenly she was like, I'm i date, Like, I'm almost like I'm back alive again. I'm ok. There she is Riley, Hello, everyone, Oh, listen to the voice. The sultry voice. Oh no, Oh my goodness,

is that you? I can go very It's like, what's I feel like I'm in a Marlena Datrich film here? What's going on when you had a little bit of a cold? Well, if anyone needs me to read a story, can be of service. Oh my god. So what did you think about the guy that she went on the date with? He Brace Johnson. He's sort of done a lot of acting I've seen here. Was great, He's cute. He was absolutely perfect for that part. He was so likable and such a winning personality and just a terrific actor.

And he just had the perfect look. He had just he had you know, it was like he was Maxi Medina's cousin, distant cousin or something. I mean, he just he looked like he was an educated kid and right up her alley that she was going to get along with. And even though he's she was so smooth too, the way he asked her out and then the way she sort of says no, and he was so chill about it. He's like, well, like, you know, if your schedule opens up,

like just giving Like he was just so smooth. He wasn't bothered by her mini rejection and I'm busy because that's okay. It just gives may never give me a call, you know. But the thing is is that you noticed in that scene they must have sat down before in prior meetings at their business class, because when they sat down into those into that table, they there was no hesitation. It was like they were already on a date and they knew that they were going to sit down with

each other. Instead of like him going like you mind if I said or whatever, or her, it's just like they just immediately sat down, so it was like they were together before they were together. That's kind of the cool thing about the show is that the writers, whoever assumed, like, hey, the audience will get it, the audience will understand by the way these two are interacting that they know each other so we don't have to spell it out for

them like which I kind of appreciate it. It moves things faster and it and it was the kind of banter that she craves and she needs and she has in her life. So of course she was going to say yes, um, But I have to tell you, I think the funniest scene in the entire and I don't mean to downgrade the younger actors who were terrific, and it was a terrifically entertaining episode to watch and very funny.

And but that diner scene when he came in with the baseball cap with his parents, I mean I blurred, I laughed out loud so many times. And I'll give you my favorite line right now. I don't even have to wait. When I when I looked at Laura, I go, who are these people? Because the father commissary he was like, I'm so sorry to hear about Rachel and looks just looking at him like, who are these people? Sid? Sid says, darn, shame about that, Rachel? Who are these people? Oh? It

was just beautiful. The best is Rory says, I've always wanted a little b right right right right right. And you know what her Rory's reactions her, you know her reactions to discovering who this person was. It was classic. Did you see her face? Because I watched her. I rewounded and I watched her. It was just like so spot on. She was just like curious and like you know those those I those big eyes just beaming in her head, like what is going on here? Who is

this person? And then when she realized that was the guy on the date, she just oh that she should have gotten an award just for reacting. You know, totally. I totally agree with you that scene because look older at school he did in the blazer and the corduroy blazer and the whole thing. And then boy he looked like a teenager when he came in there, and then everyone like he's so young. Kirk sent out pictures. Maybe you can hand out baseball cards with your phone number.

I mean, look, they were having a field day on her man. It was beautiful. It was so good. I love that scene so much. H So, I have a question that's like kind of a left turn, which I apologiz. Is where this shirt comes from? Riley. This is the let's get Riley at the speed Hey, smokey voice, smoky smokey. This is the shirt, the actual shirt from the diner scene. No way, that's so cool and without the oh my gosh, he just kept it, like did you kept it? Why?

That's so cool. That's really cool though, right yeah, anyway, all right, so Amy, what's the question? What were you gonna? So? My question is when Rory is super stressed, about Tristan being the scene partner and coming to stars Hollow, and she wants to tell she wants to tell Dean like I kiss this guy. This is what happened. Was she right in wanting to tell him, or was Laurel I right and telling her no, don't tell it. I think

they're both right. Yeah, they're both right. I mean it's one of those situations where you know, that's I think. I think these are the situations that were tailor made for omission or little white lies, or you know, just to spare that guy just knowing. I mean, you know he's gonna pop. I mean, look how I mean, Dean's really tightly wrapped. He is a very possessive guy. You know, he's a real type, a dominant kind of a guy. And you know he's not going to be He obviously

can't handle this very well. He just wants to beat Tristan's asked. Yeah, yeah, And Tristan's such a jerk to him in the in doses market, it's it's he, you know, he's everything I wish Paris would be, because at least you can watch Chad Michael Murray be smug and horrible and poisonous and diabolical and two faced and backstabbing, and the whole thing he just does. It was he's such a smooth criminal. It's just it's just you and I'm

just kind of with him. And you know, at the end of this, when he was like, Hey, I can't do this, I'm going off to military school. I broke into you know, will Willard's fathers say for whoever the kid was, and his dad was standing there, you know, waiting for him. I felt for the guy. I really felt for the guy. And I don't know if I'd feel that way for Paris that she was being hauled off to the nuthouse, you know. But yeah, and then you felt that Rory felt for him and that they

did have a connection, no question about it. Even when Rory tries to say to him, stop hanging around those guys. You're smarter than those guys, You're better than those you know, kind of in the middle of the episode because you because so go ahead, sorry, no, sorry about that. So, and you see Dean kind of looking at them, going, h think, do you knows that he's in over his head with Rory anyway, He's beginning to understand how lucky he is and how special she is, or he already

understands that. And it's gonna be real easy for somebody at that school who's you know, who's got the pedigree to just take maybe not take her away, but some her eyes will be opened up. And Tristan has that potential, and she sees the potential in triesting because you know, he's easy on the eyes, he's ut all drink out water. He comes from a great family, the whole you know, he's the whole package. So and she's wise enough and mature enough to know at her age, at her tender

age of sixteen, that that Tristan's only sixteen or seventeen. Right, he's sixteen years old. He's going to be a different person. It's twenty. He's not going to be this way. He is the good in him despite his antics. What did you think that he called her Mary? It broke my heart because it was so um gosh, what do they call that? Um? It was? It was a double entente? What was it really was? Because you know, he recognized the almost the tragic. It was like him commenting on

himself as a jackass to her earlier. It was filled with regret, and it was beautifully communicated and beautifully acted. And that's the moment I think that Rory liked him the most because he was able to recognize that in that way, and that's how smart he is. Yes, he says I would kiss you, and then he says, take care of yourself marriage, and it's like it's basically he was saying, Rory, I love you, and I'm too screwed up and too much of a jerk right now to

come out and say it. But he's in love with her, and I think she's a little bit in love with him too. She smart, did you guys see? Yes, that's that's chemistry right there. They have that real chemistry. And boys, he's such a likable guy and what a what a great actor. He really embraced that part, didn't he. And he took a lot of chances with that part to be so unlikable and he's still likable. Yes, that's the

mark of a great actor. That's the mark of a really solid actor, you know, you know, And I do think hindsight is it's like we see, we know that he's leaving Chad Michael Murray, which we talked about with him to go on. I think he did Dawson's Creek and then he's the star of One Tree Hill. So it's like we sort of have that benefit of knowing why this actor is leaving. Oh sure, yeah, so you know a little behind the scenes knowledge, and heck, why

didn't I do this? These young guys were really smart. They only had one or two year deals. They didn't want six year deals because the six year deal is what you're going for, right, that's the full boat. That's like, you got a six year deal, great, and that's what we were going for. They offered me two shows and

then four year you know. And then I sort of see these guys like the Chads and the Jared's and the Milos, they're doing one year deals at a time because they want to stay flexible because they're young and everybody wants them, or they might do another year on that deal without you know, an option year. This kind of thing. I'm running around celebrating, Hey, I got a six year deal. I'm completely locked in. But I was like forty one, right, I'm not. I'm not young guy, right,

But but they were very smart. How those guys they played that and they were not locked in and it was a perfect situation for the network because they could save money and it was better for their bottom line and their financials and the whole thing. And um, hey, we got this guy fairly cheap, and it's only we're only committed one year, but we're taking that risk. The next year it comes back, is going to be desired by every major network for every major pilot. We're gonna

have to pay him a boatload to stay here. He probably won't stay anyway, So yeah, yeah, you know, speaking of Milow, I think it's very because I don't remember it this way. But I'm happy they really are only giving us glimpses of Jess. And you know, we all know, well some of us know what's coming with Jess, but they aren't. And I've talked about this before. They aren't just like bombarding us with him right out the gate. It's like we're seeing him just little bits. He's not

even in this episode. We're seeing him just little bits here and there as they develop that. But he's too dark a character to have on on a regular basis. Yeah, it's it's too powerful. He's too good, he's too easy on the eyes, he's the storyline is too powerful. It can overwhelm the series. It can become it can become his show. So they really have to be careful with that. Well, that's such a great point because his antics, like the chalk outline of the body in front of the market.

You couldn't have that every episode because you'd start to eye roll it. It only works at such a great point. I've never I didn't think about it that way. No, but they would. I think people fans would really like it, but it would go away from Gilmore Girls and it would become the Milo Show, for the Milo Roary Show. Then then it would be a different show. So they have to really be carefully balance all these storylines. You know, now, I know I should take a break, But when we

come back, i'd love your thoughts on Paris. Oh that's gonna take about five seconds, maybe three. Anyway, let's take a break, and when we come back, we're gonna get my very elongated thoughts, thorough thoughts on Paris. All right, we'll see it a bit. All right, we're back, everybody, and let's discuss this delightful cup of wonderful, this big bowl of wonderful that is Paris. Geller, Okay, what did you think of her in this episode? Wow? Just just

grading and unnecessary early, aggressive and nasty to Rory. I mean it's so over the top bananas that, you know, when she was talking with Henry, when she came up in it very rudely interrupted Henry and and Rory. And you know, Rory is so above it at this point, she just like lets her talk, you know, she'll let her do her thing, um because scary. It's like, it's like what else do you do in the face of it,

you know, total insanity. Um, you just let it sort of peter out and it goes away and then you're like, okay, um, yeah, I mean right off the bat, it's like, Jesus, she's back. I didn't miss her, you know, but here she here, she is back. She did. And I will give her this. This character really drives that storyline. So there's so much forward momentum with it, and there's so much expectation um and anticipe patient that it is compelling. So I will

give her that. I will give her interpretation of that character a lot of credit for being you know, solidly engaging that that is for sure. I mean, she's not backing off the throttle. At all. And she is a girl that you would have to say is determined. Nothing is going to stop her from getting into Harvard and except even becoming Romeo. Right, she's the only one that that is going to prevent herself from going to Harvard. But you know, it's just it's just so, it's the

opposite of Paris. Do you love to hate her or do you hate her? Are you asking me every Yeah, Riley, go ahead, we gotta get some voice, get some smoky voice in there. Also with those voice, I feel very chassy, like let's dine exactly anyway, welcome to the bottom of the head um there is right now, Like you, you kind of don't like her, you kind of hate her, but I know, you know, I know what happened, so you kind of also have that love for her if you've seen it, because it stays with you. I'm I'm

waiting for that. I want that. I want to get there. I do want to love her. Do you love to hate her or do you just hate her? Right now? No, I'm rooting for you know. You know, look, she's a kid, she's they're all kids, and they got wacky families, and you know, there's a lot of pressure the top one percent. Nobody understands how they suffer. Somebody around me feeling sorry for themselves. I said, you know Champaigne problem, you know exactly.

It's like, come on, give me a break. Um, But when you're look it's it's it's when you have that dire a family situation and your parents are at war. This is what happens. I wish they would show more of it. I wish they would show the wish and it would help me like the character, help me sympathize with and empathize with the character more. But she just comes right out of the gate and it's just like nasty, nasty, nasty and Daniel, what do you How do you feel

about Paris? I mean, I don't know what happens, but I love her. I've been very vocal about my love for Paris. I think she is so funny and there's no character like her, you know what I mean. We need her, We need Paris. We need somebody who's like you know, super o, c D and crazy and um, you know, over the top, and she she does it for me. I don't know. I love her character and I think she's so fun to watch. I think sorry, go ahead? No, no, you go ahead, you go ahead.

Would you guys call her a villain, Scott, would you call her a villain? For sure? She is the Darth Vader of that of that storyline. Huh. There is the possibility of redemption, that's always there. But she is. She's either the you know, Darth Sidious uh, or she's Darth Vader. She's think about that. I'm curious people think of her. She represents them, she represents the empire. Let's just say that. Okay, I disagree. Isn't wait, Daniel, you go tell us I disagree.

I think Tristan's the villain, Like if I have a villain, I don't think anyone is really a villain. But if I had to pick a villain, I would say Tristan. I don't think it's Paris. I say you know what, listen, will you will you meet me in the middle and say they're both villains? Come on, come on, I'll give you. I'll give you the ship. I'll give you Tristan. If you give me a little about this, I would say

they're both misunderstood. You redefined misguided. I like that. I would agree to that because, yeah, Tristan is not a villain to me. To me, he's so just misguided. But I think that if they're both representing the Empire Star Wars Trekky fans out there, if they're both representing the Empire, right,

I think Tristan is more likely to join the rebellion. Yeah, I think because I keep thinking about when Paris she does mean things like when she told Rory that, you know, the journalism meeting was at this time, so that Rory was late, Like that was mean, and then Rory is so nice getting her in the sorority. It's like, because she represents the Empire, that's what they goes to. Tristan was mean when he was going to tell Dean about the kids. That's just that's just a rival. That's just

a male rival. That's not a big deal. That's what that's. Yeah, it's the same thing like Paris is just the female rival. Are you guys opening my eyes? You are opening It's a very good point, you know what, You're right, But I'm here for guys like them both. I will miss Tristan for sure. I think I just like his style. You know, you know, Smarmie can have a style, right and and and underhanded and slimy and all that. I mean, it's like there's a way to present it right, and

they're both really entertaining. I mean, let's just face it. You know, maybe I'm softening a little bit on Paris. I don't know. Well, we'll see what comes. But it's just that when she just came up and just I don't know, anyway, let's move on. You know, Tristan is the ultimate. Even though I know you're not supposed to say this anymore. It's considered not appropriate, I think, but Tristan is the ultimate. He's mean to you because he

likes you, Yeah, because it does. He does like her, yeah, and she just, you know, kind of rejects him in such a nice way, but he's still just like and then he tries to have that bravado, but really he

just likes her. But he is so to the manner born that it's difficult for him to bridge that gap in his own mind to even be talking to somebody from Stars Hollow whose mother he obviously knows the history of Laurela and what happened and how she dropped away from her family and reservice and Stars Hollow to him that's a you know, that's a probably a bridge too far.

And he doesn't like the fact that he has to have these feelings that he's judging Rory at the same time he's he's he's loving her and and thinking she's just announced she's blowing all these other children girls away. Um her looks, her brains, her analytical ability, her emotional maturity, all of that stuff. I mean, it's it's it's overwhelming for him, and he doesn't know how to handle it.

But she is she she is a generation away from being to the manner born and she has she's bringing in a whole new set of values for him to deal with that none of his charms are working on it doesn't work on her. It's just you know, and he doesn't want and he and he's a lot like her. He kind of wishes his parents or maybe one of you know, would break up and go to Starslow so

he could have a little dose of reality. What it's making me think of and this is I get that this sort of analogy is a little bit probably not like accurate for this particular episode, but I just keep thinking about Bryce Johnson's character, who's the guy at school that asked Laura lay out. His reaction to being turned down was so smooth and cool that it made her say yes, whereas Tristan's always kind of like when she tells him no, he just gets so mean or well,

he who says no to him? When has he ever heard the word no? Tristan guess whatever he wants. I mean, you know, right, I'm sure the comparison isn't intentional, but it is interesting to talk about in this particular episode because he's not He does don't look to me like a hard worker. That's I don't know that Tristan is a guy with a work ethic. I think he's just he's smart, he's clever. He's a bit of a screw up. There are reasons for that, you know, but he's there's

no work ethic there. He's that's why he's going to military school. He's gonna get it. Yeah, he's gonna get that's a great point. Yeah, because he was just bad, doing bad things. Bad parents. Right, So it's like the dad gave up, and I don't know if the dad is saying I'm going to stop this and send you to military school. Maybe the dad is a good dad. Yeah, I mean, at that age, if he's doing that, sure, that's what a good dad would do if he had

the means. Ship him off and let the generals take care of him, teach him respect and you know, bust his ass that kind of thing. Get him up at six and get him running to him, push ups, make your bed. You know. Yeah, that's that's not an easy life, you know where his sort of antics won't be tolerant. He'll learn about honor. He'll he's dishonoring himself. He's dishonoring the family name. He's he's going astray, and he's being corrected,

which is a good thing. It is the first appearance I think we should point out by Adam is it Wiley. I don't want to say his last name wrong, but he plays Brad, and I think everybody should just note that because we will see the return of Brad. He was from Picket Fences. He was like you know that was a sort of a famous child actor. He'd been on a bunch of step the casual date. No, this is the boy. Oh, he's a young guy who is hysterical. When he went right, when he when he when he

chased after Tristan to trust and come back. He was so terrified of the prospect of having to stand in for him. So that's Brad and Brad comes back. So we just great, you guys, you wouldn't know really, but yeah, Brad returns. So Brad is like a bit significant. So you know, look there, you know, Paris is a charismatic leader, and she's she does have a work ethic. She is smarter than everybody, and she you know, she really I think her frustration comes Obviously she's fine by herself, maybe

with all the voices in her head. Um, but when she has to uh interact within a group, then we see just how hysterically bad she is at that um and she resorts to just sort of bullying everybody and um, you know, telling him what to do. And you know, there are a bunch of wealthy kids really aren't terribly motivated. So I mean, they're kind of asking for it in the first place. Am I justifying paris Is behavior? Good? God, listen to me. Wow, they kind of all need a

kick in the ask, don't they. And she's given a like right right, It's like, come on, let's go, let's go get some hootspo, get some hustle, let's go. I mean, I think we like have you know that. I think we've covered sort of the important parts of anything else that really stood out to you in this episode. I mean the ice cream maker was sort of the the only other thing that kind of um yeah, I think that was the catalyst to get her out dating. You know,

that's the first thing we see. It's like the memories come back, and it's like, man, I really need to move on because this thing is over and dead with dead. And by the way, that phone call with one of her relatives was hysterical. You don't really hear the word wedlock used today. It's so we're only hearing half of it, and we know exactly what I would have to say that rivals anything in that episode, as as the Golden Comedy scene. Is Laurela on the phone with that person,

I mean, it was just hysterical. And the twelve blueberries in the pancakes, I don't know, I see I've seen that bit before. I saw that, you know, I've seen that bit before in other things. But uh, it was just like I to tease us with unique in that way. I want to see more Unique. I want to see more Michelle. I want to see a full scene with him, and it's just like he just had little bits and pieces and he had to really you know, I don't

know's I definitely want. I didn't get my my my Michelle moment in this episode, even though that was very good. I just he's so he's capable of so much more and they didn't give it to him. Yeah. In honor of your shirt, shall we do our favorite fashion? What did you think of the pigtails? Danielle? What do you think of the pigtails? I know, I can see you have a lot of thoughts. Pigtails are not my thing. I don't like him pass Riley smoking Riley. I don't

agree on the big tails. I think it's a hard pass. I'm gonna that's a big thumbs up for me. Like the pig yeah, yeah, I thought they were cute. I thought they were sort of important. Yeah, my my fashion choice I loved. I think it was like a Levi's jacket with them, like a sort of a please I don't know what you call that. That caller and it was sort of like a was Laura la It was Laura Lai wearing it, and it was sort of like, we've seen that jacket and she just pulled it off.

It was just super cool. So that was like a fashion moment for me. Um, yeah, you know, my favorite fashion moment, even though I don't want to be even remotely involved in this discussion right now, bad that's a Luke I thought the best piece of wardrobe in the whole thing was a Luke shirt. I'm wearing it right now. I'm modeling it oldly. Can you say it? Yeah? We love it? And wait a minute, it's too, it's too.

It's exactly how it was appeared in in the episode with the yeah Luke does like the shirt under the shirt which I'm here for here, wait a minute, I'm here for it. So that's my favorite. So let's do a favorite lines. What was your favorite line? Danielle favorite, very, funniest, love, funniest, Okay, okay. My favorite line was from Rory to Lorele after when she's teasing her about the date. Um, Rory goes, he must have been a really good boy to deserve such

a happy day. I bet you let him write a pony. Riley, take a break from the bistro, join us. Put the whiskey glass down too much? Smoke in this club. We're not enough. I loved when they were talking about the day two and um, she was talking about talking back and forth and so he goes, oh, stealing his burrito. You kids, that's good, take care of yourself. Mary that we're doing funniest lines. That wasn't funny. That was heartbreak felt. That was funny. No, that's not funny. That was my favorite.

Funniest was definitely I've always wanted a little brother. Um, it's a hie I think a laurelized wedlock line when she's on the phone. And then there were a couple of the lines she delivered after that, Um, she delivered a Billy Graham line too. That was very funny. Yah uh. And then you know, Luke's just sort of looking at the young guy and the father of the young guy and saying, who are these people? That made me blurred out laughing. Sorry, Dorian listen, if I if I suck,

I pointed out, but I I like that one. I really like that. Uh Riley is it Riley sexy moment? Why don't we talk about a little bit about the Shakespeare scenes? We didn't talk about We didn't talk about the variety of the Shakespeare scenes, and how how so many experimental theaters all over New York City, Chicago, Las Angeles, Miami, Texas, wherever they are, they're always taking putting King Lear in

a taxicab. But it just doesn't work, you know. And and it was so funny that the writing took it in that direction, because then we see how tragic it can be when you take Shakespeare out of its time and try to, you know, transport it into another era.

You know. I know for a fact that the Royal Shakespeare Company does Gothic versions of Shakespeare because it's budget conscious and it and and it sort of suggests, uh, the period, so that that's all fine and good, and you can get away with that, but when you really start, you know, so what did we see? We saw the examples, um of the different students groups putting on different displays, and I think, I think, what were they? They were zany and weird. It didn't work. One was like a

prehistoric they were caveman. And the one very insulting line I thought. I was very offended by it. When Loyal, I, you know, Rory came up and said, what's with all the grunting and and and Laurel I says, well, we'll have to get Luke to translate, and it's like, I thought, wow, what a backhand slap, Like the character getting smacked around and he's not there to defend himself, Like what what what?

I'm like, the monosyllabic idiot. What's going on here? It's interesting because that's how she sees me as a caveman who grunts. That's really interesting that you noticed that too, because now it's coming back to me. It is a little it's hostile, it's kind of it's condescending. In hostile, I'm gonna open up another can of worms. I know we're gonna get any mails about this, but I really

hit me. It really did. Was that though before you two had sort of had your moment where you know, maybe was she indicating that you were sort of being mean to her? Because remember in this episode, you guys are you're mad about the fact that she went out with this young guy and you sort of were blowing her off and she mentions like, hey, we were having a real ping pong banter and then you just left.

So could it have been because you haven't had your moment at the end where you really say yeah, I'm here for you. Let me tell you something. Do you know what kills a relationship or a feeling that you have for a person faster than anything sexual jealousy. And when a woman that you desire or or even dating and you really like her and she starts talking about young guys, it's over. Over. So that's what he was experiencing.

And it might not be over then and there, but if there are any difficulties a year or two years down the road, that guy is never going to get that out of his head. It's gonna be she likes young guys, so you know, that's that's the reality that older guys are middle aged guys are gonna have to realize. You know, he wasn't jealous, he was like irritating. You know, if guys like young girls, don't be a hypocrite. Girls like young guys, right, So it's like that's just the

way the world works. But if you're pining for somebody, if you're living for somebody, man, and they mentioned a young guy, that's it. That's bad. That's a tough one. It didn't work out with that guy at all. You know, she she was done with well once once Luke met him and sold what a goofball he was was just like now, he wasn't disturbed by it anymore. He was just making fun of her. And I don't think he lost respect for her. He felt like, Okay, I'm back

in the driver's seat. I feel a little more in control now. There's nothing to worry about. This kid's like a goofball and she's a little lost without me, right, which I thought, you know, and I remember making a choice. Uh, And I don't know if it was the best choice

that you could have made. But if you'll notice in that scene when she came up at the end, one of the last scenes in the whole thing, Yeah, this is like the moment and she's coming up to say, hey, you know, I still dig you and you're part of my life and you know this kind of thing, and she she's saying what she's not saying what she mean. She's saying what she means without having to be direct about it. So, um, and I'm fixing a watch. Oh okay, yeah, I tell you, little watch screw driver. I had a

face open. I was okay, how does Luke know how to fix a watch? Couldn't fix it? Toe us to write exactly what is he doing, like with an intricate piece of jewelry that is very complex? How is he in the watch fixing a damn watch? You can't fix it building? And so maybe the toaster was just a right, right one complex enough right anyway. So so so this is a choice that you make, because I remember making this choice. And I'm not saying that this was a

genius choice. It was just a choice because they always tell you in acting school the genius is in the choice, right, And that's the mark of you know, an actor or an actress. What choices are you making? Now? I I could have been without that watch. I could have been with many other diner like things. A watch is not a diner like item at all. And I said to myself,

and here's here's a perfect example of somebody overthinks. Here's a but here's a perfect example somebody overthinking something trying to make a point that nobody got. And I don't know if they got it or not. But Props came to me and says, what do you want to be doing in this scene? Because if you know, it's a

big kind of important scene. I said, And I should have said you know, there are any number of things I could have done that would have maybe been a better choice than trying to fix an interestate piece of jewelry that happened to be a watch. Um, I could have been doing nothing. I could have been wiping. I could have been doing the catchup bottles. I could have been,

you know, with my receipts. You know, why the watch because I thought to myself, in my actor brain, the best of the worst choice I think I ever made, uh was Luke doesn't know what time it is because watch is broken. Luke doesn't know what time it is with Laurel I. He doesn't know what time it is in his life with her, and he wants to fix the watch because she if she's running around with young guys and not having deep experiences, then what the hell

is wrong with me? I'm not mad at that I need to fix my watch and be so I can know what time it is. I'm not mad at much like the door being open when they're going on the road trip to Harvard. I'm not mad. So I thought of it symbolically and I thought, you know, get me a watch. I'll fix a watch because he doesn't know what time and I didn't tell them in the prompt parts because I looked at no time and it's that's that's and they decided to keep it in or like

it's time for us to sort of move forward. It's there are many different interpretations, and I thought, right, look, look, look smokey Joe's cafe over there. She you're not on your head, right, No, I think that it's genius. It's not bad on a certain level. It's kind of genius. I don't know if it altogether. And it took me a second and then now I'm like, you know what I'm in. And he fixed the watch, so it's like

it's time. I like it. Anyway, there you go, that's just a fun I didn't notice the watch, but I did notice the importance of that moment and you having sort of that last line of like me too, and then it kind of we fade out. Well, you know, I he became very relaxed, and he's smiling and looking down and being a little bit shy. Um. He was in love again because he fell out of love. I don't know if he don't. I don't know if he

fully fell out of love. But it was like, is this girl just ridiculous and like, am I just know what? Like he was confused for that episode? He was, he was truly, Yeah, I think you're right. In the end, he was very calm and just relaxed. Yeah, I think I think his ego took a hit and he sort of came back. You know, guys, guys can be delicate creatures. You know. You know that, right? Oh, I know, right? The rule book? Yeah. Um, but anyway, so I thought

the different interpretations of Shakespeare was funny. So am I an idiot? Or was Rory and Paris's version the real version? Uh? Yeah? They Harris insisted that it not be taken out of context and not be taken out of its time period. Yeah. So, and it was really truly one of the worst acting performances of Romeo that you could possibly see. Is it hard to be a good actor within a scene acting badly? That's that's very difficult. Yeah. So what they did was

actually hard. Yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard and to be funny at the same time. So it's like it's like you're you have to please so many odds in that regard the acting. Guy, It's it's very demanding and so ironic because all of you know, back in the time of the Globe Theater, all of the uh cast was was men. There were no women, even men, even men played the women. So this is a little twist on that. So um, yeah, I thought it was.

It was hysterically funny. What was the other in business suits? With Wall Street guys stabbing each other? Right, wasn't there something in outer space so quick and subtle that you're like even catching this because they always have so much else going on, so that you're like, huh wait, what, Like there's so much so let's talk about Dean a little bit um the Dean Tristan stuff, And I just think, oh my god, I mean, it just shows how wayward a son Tristan became really to get so grossly so gross,

But it was fun. See, I didn't mind being witnessing that scene. Yes, it's gross, it's disgusting behavior. Is this fullower the bust flower And you're just like, oh dude, And he even says it Deans like, why have to be such a jerk? But it's it's just like jerk is the right word. But it's like, is that type of evil so much more appealing when it's so relaxed and so at ease with itself and so accepting of itself.

Comfortable right right right, and uh he actually did what he had one of the great lines, Hey, you know Roy, the I don't know, stockboy, there might be a running beans, he might not make it. And it was all like it was looking down his nose at the working man, right. I mean, it's like so it really the episode itself was very Shakespearean, and that the and and that the uh, the classes were it was a little class war going on, right,

conflict between the classes. So it was quite brilliant. I thought one of my absolutely these last two episodes, I think just hit it out of the park, two of my favorites. Uh had so much fun watching both of them and laughing, laughing, laughing. You know, I'm softening a little bit on Paris, I'm going to admit, but that, you know, her reintroduction right away, interrupting Henry and Rory in that way so aggressively and so nasty. It's just like,

go away. It's not funny. It's like it's like it's cartoonish, and that you expect her to do this and be way over the top with it, and it's like, I just wish it was a little more clever and didn't take as long. There's like too much verbage. It's like, we know she's gonna be this way, like let's present her like you know, it's too much of her almost, it's like it's it's enough. So I feel it's how I feel what I like this episode. And I think that it also had that important moment between Luke and

Laura a lot. So that's the other thing. It's like there's always this sort of significant, subtle, important moment, even between all the antics and the young guy and the burrito and the Romeo and Juliet, and then you're like, wow, there is But in terms okay, here's a question that popped in my head when I'm watching this episode in terms of what she needs, and Lord knows, that could be any number of things. Right, is he right for her?

Can can he handle her? Because she is a you know, she's a dynamo, she's a uh you know, she's intellectual, she is loose, she is you know, she's a lot that is a that is a that is a lot of woman there, you know, and that's a lot of person sonality and that's a lot of fun. She is, you know, she's a really interesting woman, and um, can he handle that? Do you think he can handle that? And I think that's one of the questions they want us to ask when we're watching that are these two

going to be able to melds? You know? Well, I guess we'll say yeah, all right, let's dig in there. Those episodes riddled with pop culture. So the first one, we have Suki and Roy try to convince Laura to keep the ice cream maker, and Suki says, it's true. I saw on Martha Stewart, Martha Stewart's American retail businesswoman, writer, and television personality. She was named one of People Magazine's fifty most Beautiful people in the World. And Martha did

five months in prison, which we all know. Martha was asked what she missed most, and she said the flavor of women. Wow. Next we have the children Teacher gives examples on the past Shakespeare plays, which we've talked about teachers as in my favorite. The climactic last scene was set during the final days of the Sunny and Share show.

Sunny and Share started in the quintessentially seventies TV comedy variety show, Sonny and Shares hit songs featured prominently on the show, and they would often sing and perform them both during in between skits about the monkeys. You're talking about the monkeys. Oh sorry, sorry, there isn't monkeys where there is coming there is. Hey, sorry, well the monkeys

talking about the monkeys. One of the most davious Sunny and Share songs is I Got You Babe and on Janua, Sonny was was sadly killed at a skiing accident while on vacation with his family in South like Tahoe. Oh yeah, that was like was awful. Yeah, this was awful. I thought it was as I didn't remember it being taho Yeah, I kind of remember being Askeden too. But one of the Kennedys was killed playing football. He skame backwards into a tree. Yes, I was awful too. Yeah, that was

Aspencirfule out there skiing. It's dangerous. Yeah. Next Michael Nesmith died. Maybe should skip to the most was the brains behind the whole thing. He was the songwriter. Funny scene when they did the monkeys like I think one of the girls says hey, and then Rory says he and then the other girl were the Monkeys, Monkey luisas were the Monkeys,

the only one one left. Yeah. The Monkeys was the seventies television show about a group of struggling musicians included I was obsessed last train to Clarksville and I watched that they actually outsold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones in nineteen sixty seven. And when the Monkeys came to England in nineteen sixty seven, the Beatles even threw them a big party at the Speakeasy Club. And as we've mentioned, sadly,

Mickey de Lenz is the only living remaining member. Yeah, Michael Nesmith just passed away and he was touring a couple of weeks before that at the Greek Theater was their final one and like mid November, I know, right, and like one more show they were going to do a man, I know, so very sad. So going on to Paul, Paul and Laura la are talking together and Paul gives his theory about being raised by machines in the future. Paul says, the Twilight Zone marathon was on

all week. So The Twilight Zone is American media franchise based on the television series created by Rod Serling. Actor Leonardo DiCaprio is planning on making a new film with Warner Brothers setting The Twilight Zone is one of his favorite TV series. Totally in on that, Leo, Le, I love the Twilight Zone. That was fantastic. When the Sterling went to bed each night, he'd leave his tape recorder sitting on his nightstand in case he needed to record

the dreams he had the night before. All of his dreams, both good and bad, ended up inspiring countless episodes of The Twilight Zone. Suki makes Michelle promise not to count the blueberries in a second. You know what, I got a comment? You did? We we talked about the Beatles a little bit, The Beetles from a party to speak

easy rate, the Monkeys, the beatlestrom Party, the Beatles. Some bone head just wrote an article in the Washington Post about the Beatles and how he's talking about how overrated they are. I'm not kidding, I am not kidding. I was so incensed. I was so incensed that I actually posted a comment on my social media. I don't think I said bone head. I would never I would never use my platform and and lamb base. Somebody in that great. But this guy, I mean, what in the world is

he thinking about the Beatles? We're talking about the Beatles? Oh? He was, he was, he was criticized. He was critiquing the Peter Jackson HBO thing behind the scenes writing all these songs they were writing to let it be album, and this guy that documentary. No, but I've watched pieces of it online and brilliant. I think you'll like it. And I gotta tell you, you know big, you know I've already stated on this podcast the big, biggest moment of my my whole career is have I stated at

this or did I just tell you Amy? I think you just told me. Oh, I'm not going to reveal this. Should I reveal it? Yes? Like, oh my god, it made it. It was so. I was sitting here one night and when when you when you when you guys dropped the episodes. I listened to them, but I really

like to listen to the ads, which I love. The ads I kind of fast forward to because I've already heard the interviews and I heard what you guys do with them, and it's all great, and you know when you incorporate my notes and I love that, and I appreciate that. Um and uh. But then the ads come on, right and I'm thinking, wow, this is really cool and

it's just having your own show. And then hearing these ads, and then the Beatles came on and it was I Me, Me, mind Dad an and and then and then the most expensive, the most famous voiceover artist in the history of voiceover commercial voiceovers is doing the voiceover for the Peter Jackson HBO behind the scenes, let It Writing, Let it be with the Beatles, and I just I just had this moment and I started to tear up, and I just

I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And it was of all the great things that have happened to me in this business, that was the big moment. That was the big and I did And I didn't tell you this because I remember, Yeah, I used to sit in my sister's room and used to listen to this album and she passed away. Mm hmm, okay, not to

be a town. But I just, mistress, I kept listening to the ad on the show, and I kept thinking of my sister, and you know, my wife came in and comforted me, and it was just it was just but this show means so much to me and I thank you guys. I really really want to thank you guys. And I called Amir and I shared this with her

because it was a big moment in my life. Um, because I grew up just loving the Beatles so much, and I know everybody, everybody from my generation and even the new generation discovering and this guy wrote an article, you know, uh, criticizing as that they're overrated. And I just want to say to this guy, if you're listening, you don't have any idea what it takes to write a song or how brilliant Paul McCartney, George Harrison, John Lennon and Ringo star are as a group and the

way they created those songs. It was absolutely captivating to watch the little bit that I watched, and I will watch the whole thing, but wow, wow, Well, can I just say how grateful we are to have you, That we have a you guys like and I don't, I don't mean to like, but we have a guy who cares so much about this show that he's doing for you all that he enjoys the commercials. Think about that when you guys are listening, like Scott the show and

what he's doing. So it's just like, oh my, it's a reflection of the fan base, right and it's like, you know, we can't do this without them, and they're loving this for the most part. You know, there's a couple of we can take we can take this the arrows, like when they say this show was of arrows of outrageous fortune, you know, Jesus, those are there's some arrows coming at us, but it's we can take it. Uh. But anyway, I just wanted to Shay that I didn't

know that I was going to share that. I'm so glad you did because I didn't say anything because I just knew it was like a important moment for you. But I'm so glad anyway, to the Washington Post writer, up your bippy, there you go. I knew Riley. Listening to Riley, this seems like the perfect moment to talk about Pamela and Tommy Lee. Okay, if I've ever known a moment that seemed perfect. So Laureliza sell it on the internet. Make a fortune. First, we bought you Pamela

and Tomi Lane. Now we prepare yourself for the crazy antics of Rory and the Bard Pamela Anderson as a Canadian American actress, model, producer, author, activist, and former show girl, known for the roles on the television series Home Improvement, Baywatch and v I P. For a time, UM, she was known as Pamela Anderson, Pamela Anderson Lee, or Pamela Lee after marrying Motley Crue drummer Tommy Lee. The first time they met in Pameless says, he came up and

grabbed me and licked my face for me. That's the guy for me, mom, Dad, I found him and they are known to have very tumultual tumultualists tumultuous, tumultuous roller coaster of a relationship. Thank you. And the reference here was kind of racy because it was referring to their infamous video I won't say more. You gotta keep it clean here listening, um. Next, we have Laura Lee tells Rory about the date and that that he's an outdoorsy guy.

Laura I says, plus, he's outdoorsy and remember that Meryl Streep movie where she and her family take a rafting trip to the Then psycho Kevin Bacon forces them to take him down the river. The river Wild is American adventure film um starring Meryl Streep, Kevin Bacon, John c Riley, Benjamin Bratt, and Joseph Mazzello. One day on set, exhausted, Meryl Streeps was swept off her raft and it was

in danger of drowning before she was rescued. And Kevin it can start in a movie seven years earlier called Whitewater Summer, in which he also played a villainous character in a movie dealt with whitewater rafting. Weird, But I did like The River Wild. I think it's kind of like a good bad mon. Kevin Bacon didn't scare me in that film. He was scarier in hollow Man. But we don't need to talk about but that character. That character has to scare you. He looked like he was rough. Yeah,

I didn't think he didn't scare me. And he's a terrific actor. I mean, he really truly is. But I just did not think he was right for that role. That's my opinion. I was up for that film. I was not pleased. I was very close to working with Street. Damn it so sorry. It's a good movie. I didn't think he was right for the part. I don't last one we have on the list. Laura La tries to cheer up Rory and says we will take her for U some retail therapy. Laura Lice as I mean it.

Today's to day. We're finally going to Spring for the power puff Girls shot Glasses The power up Puff Girls in American superhero animated television series for the Cartoon Network. George Jetson of the Jetsons in two occasionally appears in the background flying in his space car as Blossom, Bubbles,

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was riveting. The voice that you're using, the voice that you possess. Now, if you could bottle that, I'll do some lines and then maybe like record them and replay them. I think you should actually, honestly, the time you got to capture it. Now, you know, I gotta make some cold You gotta do it. You gotta do it. Just just like take a day. Just take the day and come up with it. Yeah, you might want to record this is Ryley and this is your book. Yes, yes,

it's a great impression. Just have just had fun with it and then send it off the east and you know that that Mad Scientists is gonna be pulling some drinks. Episode is next week. I think we have one more week, one more episode before you leave on Christmas vacation. We'll be gone for one week. Don't worry, it's gone one week. I think we have one more so any minute, so peop, we're trying to squeeze in one more before Santa comes. So we got the Bracebridge Dinner. That's episode ten right,

season two, big episode. Um, I think we're good, guys. Do we have any fun? That's the problem with you guys. I don't. I never have any fun with you guys. That's the problem. We're gonna have to work on that. Let's work on that and then we'll come back and we'll have more fun. I head of blast, I missed this. My god, we haven't gotten together in a couple of days. We were dropping like an episode a day. We're two episodes a day, just carpet bombing everybody. Here's twenty episodes.

Go ahead, we haven't seen you in really, you know, it's like, wait a minute, Dad, now, mom, Now, we're a little light. We're listening to They just went, hang on, we're not gonna make it. They just dropped another episode. Anyone that listens to this podcast, because most interestingly about podcast, people don't listen to the very last minute, but anyone that does always gets a real treat because we get real nutty. Yeah, it's it's it's really a tradition in

our world. It's like because we're so focused and then it just comes apart. That's that's what we how we like to do it. Um Anyway, next week, were like in two days. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We've seen a couple of days. We're going to do another one in a couple of days. Oh right, we are very excited. All right, anyway, gang, that's gonna do it for Uh, let me try that again. What's the name of the episode again? Runaway little bit? Alright, Gang that's gonna do

it for Runaway little Boy season two, episode nine. What a barn burner it was in Norman, It was really a barn burner. Um Riley pelusis otherwise known as Smokey Riley. Now she's gonna record that smoky voice or some voice over. Do re me Danielle Romo, who came in and out of the episode she's she is. I'll tell you. Let me tell you something about daniel Romo. This is one of the busiest producers in all of podcasting. I mean, the three of you are the busiest producers, uh and

executive producers of these things. I mean, it's kind of amazing how you have the time to do all this stuff. Speaking of time coming to you, gotta go, I'll show up. We're dragging it out a little bit amy. Thank you, hey, everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am All in podcast and email us at Gilmore at I

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