Well, Rory’s a Lucky Girl. Work! (S3 E13 "Dear Emily and Richard”)

They watched this show. They do all of the incredibly powerful things like flashbacks, and the reason that the flashbacks in this episode were so powerful and worked so well are because is because we are so invested in these characters after two and a half seasons, we know them, we love them, and then we get this flashback back to when Laurel and Christopher was sixteen years old, and it was powerful. It was as good an episode as I've seen on television that I've been invested in in

this type of a family drama. I mean, this episode shows us why Gilmore Girls at its best, there's nothing more powerful than this show because it clearly says to the audience, there doesn't matter how dysfunctional your family is. Look at this example of a dysfunctional family. But there's nothing more powerful than family. Yes, and we strive for it, and we dreamed for it, and you know, we have messed up relationships with cousins and mothers and whatever it is,

we still hope. So it was so it was written large in this episode, and it was a powerful experience. Had the same I'm I'm so happy you had the same experience I had, And I can't wait to hear how Danielle responded. I cried multiple times. Too gooded me multiple times. Oh yeah, I loved it. I mean, this was the first time I've ever seen a flashback like that. It reminded me a lot of Um, This is US, I know, like, con't just bring it to like current

TV shows. This is Us does that a lot. They do flashbacks and it just makes you understand every character so much more. And that's how I felt about this episode.

I was just like, oh my god, because you hear you see them now talk about like, oh, when I was sixteen, I had a baby, But to actually see Lorela and Christopher sixteen years old and what they went through, and also Emily and Richard and Christopher's parents on their discussion that that one really I was like, oh, I just wanted to jump through the screen, but oh my god, yeah, it knows for as gutted as I was multiple times, but one being I felt such heartache for Emily, like

I'll cry, I'm gonna cry in this podcast. Such heartache for Emily when she realized they're gone, like I almost can't say it, like they're gone. And then the beauty like, oh my god, like when the DVD player, it's like this just the most excruciating pain and the pain you feel for Lord multiple times, the fact that Laura lie like you guys, I cannot say it without checking up.

Went to the hospital to help Rory because Rory needed her the pain she had to endure to be there for the birth of Christopher's baby with someone else, but she knows there's nothing more important than my own kid, and saying to her mom, Rory needs me there, so it doesn't matter. But that's the point, right, It's like, if I'm with my kid, I can do anything. If we're together, I can get through anything. You're gonna make me cry, I know, was it not such an amazing episode?

But it killed me because anybody that's been in a delivery room delivering their kid, you know, that's a that's that you know, you walk into the hospital one person, you leave that delivery room a completely different person. So do you think experiencing this episode watching it now as a father is completely different than how you felt shooting it? Because your scenes in this episode are actually kind of fun,

right right? They were? They were fun. Uh, this, without a doubt was the most powerful episode of television I've probably ever seen. Uh, And you know, obviously because it was such a deeply personal experience for me because I was completely emotional and I don't even have children. For me, it was I was feeling laurel I so much. But that's but that's the strength of of motherhood, being a parent is that there's no stronger love, there's no stronger bond.

There's nothing deeper in the human experience than that. Then with parents and their child, nothing is stronger. Um. I mean, whether it's your child, or whether it's your mother or father or whatever, but it really when you have a child, Ah, you understand. I understood for the first time what what love really was. I didn't know I had I didn't know, and then I found out. You find out one day, it's just like there he is. And then because it's like what are you willing to do for that child?

And yet the answer is anything and everything? Um man. Uh, just just a wonderful, wonderful episode. This was my absolute and it had a ton of laughs. Uh, had a ton of great line Anyway, let's go through it. Yeah, Daniel, do the do your thing. Okay, alright, guys, if you haven't, If you guys haven't figured it out yet. This is season three, episode thirteen, Dear Emily and Richard, Air date

February four, two thousand three. Um lor Lae is reminded of when Rory was born, with flashbacks to her teenage years. As Sherry, Chris's current girlfriend, goes into labor. Rory and Lordly are the only ones to support Sherry until Christopher arrives. Luke continues to day Taylor's lawyer, Nicole. Sherry is so nuts in this down and I wrote it down and her hair was so blonde. We had like a different hair to Okay, so let's we'll start going through it.

And then obviously there's just so many significant things. So we started dinner Friday night dinner, and we learned quickly about Aunt Marine hiking up her skirt and that Lord Lye and Rory are planning their trip to Europe and it is not the trip that Richard and Emily would ever, they laughed at them. You're not they didn't think they

were serious. They're laughing when looked at each other. Go, I loved I've never the use of the word trapes when Emily said, you're going to just drapes around Europe, Like, well, you what are you going to sleep in the in the park in Paris like a couple of squirrels? Which version would you rather have? I'm not gonna lie rather do the Richard Emily, Oh god, yes, kidding me. It's so interesting because they would pay for it. But it's like Rory and Lore like don't even want that trip. No,

they want to do the youth hostile route, you know. Yeah, I mean, look, when you're a kid, that's romantic and it's fun, and that's you want to connect with other kids. That's how you meet kids from all over the world, you know, and in those use hostels and it's great. Um, yeah, those hostels are a party zone. Have you Yeah? I have? Can I say it abroad? That's all we did. We jumped around a different countries and stayed in hostles and met other twenty something year old and just rage and

had a good time. Yes, yes, have you stayed in the hostile Scott? Uh? I have? Danielle is not wrong. You rage. Look when you're that young, you make friends easily. Uh, You're you're an open spirit, You're on an open book and the stories being written. I was not cut out for that, even in my twenties. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that was that's how I saw. I mean I didn't see Europe all of Europe that way, and I did

backpack through Europe, but I did a little differently. But I met so many people and we had so many great experiences and there's just nothing better. And you have to do it when you're young, you have to do I liked the sound of the ritz. I was like, yeah, now it sounds good. Yeah, I think I don't think I could share the toilets at the youth hostels. Don't you share bathrooms? It's like your sorority. Has you've done that before? Where you do. I love mythrooms. Come on,

when you're eighteen nineteen, you can do anything. You can go anywhere, it doesn't matter. You know. That was a very funny scene. So we knew we were We knew we were going strong right from the start. So then it was interesting. We go to Tom, who's working on the shop I like to still call the shoppy because that's two peep, and Dean is working essentially for the construction guys like Taylor has sort of recruited him, and Miss Patty's there leering at all the fellas, which was,

Oh my god. Then we get to the scene I love, which is Jess and Luke having their little conversation because Luke is trying to figure out where to take in a cold dinner, and it's just hilarious because Jess is just relentlessly making fun of Luke. See you see how good the comedy could be when things are super fast? Yes, when you don't, when you when you don't indulge in taking pauses or taking your moments or trying to be funny,

you just execute. You do the dialogue, you do the actions and your speed and it and it really made the humor pop. You know are so correct. That scene was like a workout for my life because he had to just jam with you right then you exit and incomes Dean and that that almost hurt my brain. That list of cheeseburgers in this and then and they're and they are having to do that while they're firing off

their line. Oh my god, was that a sin? Also, like just how they were portraying their personalities and that like he was being like, you know, snarky, and but also like trying to be like dude, like you're working and you're taking my order, you know that five and Jesse's just kind of just trying to hang in there without saucess and your tailor's waitress. You're working for Taylor, Taylor's waitress. That was It was Dean at his best. He's he's in a position now where you know, he

doesn't really he's over it. He can be friends with Laura Lae. He knows that this this Milo is not really um as cool as everybody saw. He was like he can get his goat when he wants to, and he did and been so confident. He's definitely sticking the knife in a little that ain't just like are he but he earned that, right, didn't he He earned that? I don't. I don't think he was being a D word. I think he was just being, you know, justifiably. They

both were being D words to each other. I think I think I think Jess was being defensive and hostile, and I think and I think Dean was being on the offensive and hostile. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. The list of the meal, Oh, my head was exploding, and I'm thinking, is going to remember her? Jess? Is Jess going to remember all this? Like that was overwhelming. That whole scene was like a ping pong tournament. Yeah,

it's great, It's great, great moments. And they both had to, you know, Jess had to buckle down, take the order and and doing exactly what Jared said for him to do, because you don't want those guys come back in. They're gonna you're gonna, we're gonna be You're gonna be remaking these orders all day and these guys work for Taylor. Read it back to me, Jess, now you're my little you know what? And then having was like pickles pickles on the side of what like it was just the

whole thing. My god, I love it when the kids go at it and didn't make me hungry that scenes like, oh my god, I felt this. You know, it's amazing about this episode. There's that scene and then there's another scene coming up right now that really I had very little to do with sort of the meat of what

we were emotionally feeling, but there's such awesome scenes. So then we go to the inn and Loyalize on the phone and we realize some dudes having a retirement party that he keeps changing the theme, which really has no significance in what this episode is about, but it was such a great way to see Suki and she tosses the golf ball cake suk on that they could have

eaten that cake. They could have served that. It agrees you want to make a funny, humorous sight gags for the camera, But like servant, I have a question about that. Was that that had to have been a fake cake, right, because otherwise it's just one and done. Like she flipped that and it landed so well into the trash. Can wait if she messed it up, they'd have to bring

out another used to nail that. And lanes they're working and then Rory comes in with the flags and like this guy suddenly takes his golf retirement party to a beanie baby party. Yeah, oh yeah, waste tragic, waste of cake. Just tragic. Yes, I actually thought the same. So then we get back to law Leon Rory's and we get the invitation to the C section, which was bizarre. I'm supposed to hug a formal viewing gifts. Welcome the sushi, Yes, sushi, which I wish. I'm all right, I'll give it to her.

When you're pregnant, you can have sushi, but you can't. You can't, So you can have sushi. No, you can't, cannot. So I think she's trying to say, I'm having this baby, I want sushi. Oh that's what I That's what I gathered. Um. But the one thing that really bothered me was was that PS gifts are not necessary but always appreciated. My God, that's like, you better give me a gift or else. And I won't say it now, but there were two pop culture references in this scene that I will say

for when we do pop culture were genius. So I just I leave you with that. So then we see the Amazon box, but it's not really an Amazon box. It's Emily has sent over more travel books, and then we get to our first flashback, which was Wow, it was shocking. It was shocking, and my initial reaction was not good so because I hadn't because I hadn't seen it before. But then I watched the scene again. I

rewound it and I watched the scene. I said, well, do I believe that that girl was sixteen year old Laurel I do I believe that that guy was sixteen year old Crystal. I'm going not say that girls. She's she's built different, she looks different, she doesn't have laurelized height, and they didn't have their they did not have the you know what, But you know what didn't matter. I

totally agree with you, Scott. It didn't matter literally reading my mind, because those two actors were really terrific and they were really engaging. Um, I mean, she was terrific. The mind that really made me not like have to worry about who the actors were was when they started talking about their plan to go to Europe and back back and how is Christopher's plan. I was like mind blown, Like, oh my gosh, that just totally took me back to the beginning of the episode on how Rory wants to

do this right right right. I'm so glad you brought this up, though, because my note, although I was completely into the episode, said she isn't Laura Lits. It doesn't matter. They didn't right, but she was. Yeah. I mean, I guess at the end of the episode, I had completely sort of changed my mind. They they both believe those actors, both believed that those they were those characters sixteen. So it made me buy it to it, and it was all this great mom, Mom, I'm dropping my sweater. Mom,

I'm you know, gonna have a drink. You know, I'm here. I guess she's not here. Whatever she had, she had the attitude down, she had the cadence down. She had she was she was expressing the physicality of what she was doing. Was was perfect. The brilliance of the flashbacks is that the adults were played by the characters the actors. We know how they made them look slightly younger. I don't know if it was like a fuzzy filter or what they were doing, but Richard was phenomenal in every way.

I'm a question about this scene. Is it safe to say that this is the day that Rory was conceived, because that's what I That's what I said to Yeah, I'm sure that it was. That was the day right because they were like Emily's not home and they're drinking, you know, the cherry in it. I had the same thoughts called her lore? So did you notice that that and not obviously was in the writing because Christopher is

really the one that calls lore Lae lore? And I know from all the fans they're they're torn on it. Some people hate it and some people like it. I personally love it that young Christopher called her lore? Did you did you also think for a minute, as you know the flashbacks kept coming, because I think there were three or four or five of them. As they kept coming, I had a fleeting thought of Wow, what the show could have been. Say, I don't know if they could

have kept doing that, I don't know. It just seemed to elevate the show. Uh, it deepened the experience for me, and I think had they stayed, you know, I'm kind of wondering how the show would have been received had they continued to do these flashbacks. Interesting not in every episode, but in every other you know what I mean. You've talked about a prequel to Gilmore Girls. And that's what this would be. It would be so right, that would be really good. It really would be good. It really

would be yes. So then and and I also loved how the you seamlessly went from the flashback to present day. So immediately we come back and we see you know, Lord Lye and Rory in their in their beanie and their scarf, and we're back, and then we head to Chiltern, which was a funny scene. We just see that Paris and Rory are still really going at it. Mm hmm, you know. And then and and Paris picks the bad photo of Rory, and then we get the call. Right,

we're back to the pettiness that is Paris. Yeah, yeah, like she has to have Rory looking like an idiot. And then we get the call and it's Maureen, Sherry's friend saying Sherry screwed up. Sherry screwed up first of all, which she said so many times. It was like a little bit annoying. But off Rory goes to the hospital. But isn't it you know, if we compare Paris's life to Rory's life, I mean, doesn't this little Paris in

a snit all the time in the show. Just look, it just pales in comparison to Rory's life, which is incredibly full, even though it's it's you know, not everybody's together on the same page. You've got a long you know, she's got her dad, it's in a relationship, she's gonna have a half sister, and you know, it's a family. She's in a family that's trying to, you know, weave

it all together again, stay together. The tension of the show is like they're doing all they can to to summon the better rangers, angels of their natures, to stay together as the guilmost as a family. It's messy, but it's love right right. It doesn't have to be perfect. But just just watching people, watching people try to clean it up and make it good and and make the commitments is great. It's compelling television. It really truly is. And I like the Paris better that gets along with Rory.

I enjoy that Paris so much more. This Paris is kind of back to remember when Paris would have annoyed you. This is that annoying One's love her, but I like her better when they're friends. Yeah, I think I think that Amy and Dan like that character so much they wanted to keep her around because she's really outlived her usefulness. I think they milk that cow wile ago but came back. So we do flashback to a scene that I thought was interesting because it was necessary, but it didn't totally

age well. In the scene where she's trying on her dress, it's really like her debutante dress. I think, yeah, so it's her debutante ball, just like Rory was in the debut Ball. And the dress doesn't fit and Emily's like, did you gain weight? Like, what's going on? This was just three months ago? We had the fitting and then get in sweats and run around the block. Yeah, it was like And that was great acting by the young lower Lie because you see she realizes it who is she?

Who is she? I didn't look it up and I actually been trying to track her down. And the young Christopher, which from it is that her name? She was great. Yeah. She He's sort of known for a few other things too, but so far I haven't had left tracking them down. I'm gonna keep um. But that scene with the dress and it didn't fit really drove home for me just how the kind of wealth that Laurel I came from, because that is you know, I mean, man, that's almost

American royalty, you know, it's it's it's right on their cusp. Yeah, they're they're fancy people. Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're holding some traditions there. And the fashion of the eighties was really on point, especially with Emily and especially I'm jumping ahead, but the scene where Emily realizes they're gone, she's wearing just the ultimate eighties sort of dynasty gown. I was like fashion. So yeah, that scene was brutal because you're like,

oh no, definitely brutal, but I think necessary. Like I like, I liked seeing that moment where Laura la realizes, oh my gosh, I'm pregnant. Yeah, It's just like light bulbs going off in that scene. I'm like, oh my gosh. So then we go back to the diner for what I thought was one of the best Scott Lauren Luke

Laurely moments of the entire series. The physical comedy, I mean, because you're really not talking like you're you're We're focused on Nicole's call, and then we background basically to refresh her. So Kirk's at the counter and Laura Lee walks in and she's like, where's Luke? And then here comes Luke all gussied up, wearing the sweater that Laura Lee got him in, the leather jacket and the whole thing. And then Laura Lee says, it's a girl. It's a girl, And then you let her take the call on the

is losing her mind? So I assume that's all choreographed, like all the oh sure, oh yes, genius. That's the most physical almost that we've seen, the two of you. And I'm telling you, we we listen. We could have gone our our chemistry was so good. We could have gone on the road and done a stand up routine. You know that I find crazy. And we maybe have talked about this, but you know there's so many genius Gilmo Girl TikTok's, and we probably have talked about this.

Is that Sherylyn Fenn was originally who they wanted as Laura Lie. No one is Laura Lie but Lauren Graham right, it's a whole different show. It's a whole different show without her. Can I tell you, guys, a weird thing that happened to me and they said, this is weird, so and forgive me for this. I hope no one takes this the wrong way. Ah. Obviously the magazines have mentioned that it was a story recently that Lauren and her boyfriend Peter Krausa broke up or whatever, which is

sad and I don't even who didn't care. It's not the point of my story. No, but I mean no, but but it is sad. And I but not to interrupt you, but please, but I didn't know about it, and then I did read about it, and there was one article that went into the why well they said that she said, they're quoting her and she went on location too mighty duck to film for five months or

whatever it was. And when she returned, Uh, Peter and his son, who I probably teenager late teenager at this point, had bonded so deeply that she kind of felt like a third wa Oh my god. And it just broke my heart. Yeah, because they've been together a long time, and she's been with that boy a long time, and I'm sure she's been a great kind of a step mom to him. Not that they're you know what I mean. I mean, that's a big investment making a kid. So it's very very sad, very sad. But what was real

weird for my brain? And I mean it was a split second. I don't know, it was like, oh good, Luke can be with her. And then I was like what what? What? Like? I literally was like, first of all, Scott is married. Number two, Scott isn't Luke and she's not Laurel. I was literally like, I mean, it was very fast in my head, but I was literally like, hey, head, what the fudge? Like what did you have a clubhouse

meeting with your head? Literally like sure, there's tons of people who are listening to those podcasts had the same thought process too. I mean it was so it just shows how much I blur, even though I love her on Parenthood, I blur her Lauren with Laurea la so much. Oh yeah, yeah, it was. It was an acting towards

to force and define. It will always define her career no matter what great things she goes, continues to do right and and it kind of shows like with acting or roles, Sherilyn Fenn did not become Laura Lie because she was never meant to be Laura Lie. Do you know what I mean? Like I would assume you get the parts that you're really meant to play only if they're good and they last as long as this one has.

And I think that's a requirement, right, that's a that's a requirement destined to be that guy in Saul Scott. You know, I'm like the biggest Saw th time. It's so weird. I literally think Saw it are the best horror movies except poor Chris Rock one that wasn't as good. Okay, getting myself back? Sorry, Oh all right. Can we give Luke's outfit honorable mention? Totally? You were an all black a leather jacket, and I was like, he literally owned it. I was so proud of Luke. Fee looks so spiffy,

and she's likable. Nicole like, I don't like her that much, but I do like her. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it was nice to say. I I had hair at one point, so it was nice to see the hair. It's like, wow, look at that, Oh god, a little bit of a head. Do you were baseball cap in this new show or can you not tell us? Uh? You know, it's interesting, it's interesting. I probably will be. Oh yeah, yeah. And today we had a fitting today Wardrop fitting today in the second one, and we haven't been able to find

the right hat. I don't know. I don't know if it's going to be a permanent picture like in every scene, right, but I mean just in nature what my character does, it's going to call for that. So we found, you know, I found the hat today. So so Sherry's totally crazy. Did you guys all feel that she has lost her mind? Um? Yes, well poor thing right? Yeah, and her friend Marin is totally nuts. And nothing was funnier than when Rory says, boy, do you look them? Yes? Yes, Laura Rory stole this episode.

She took the Comedy Award for this episode. She had four or five major laugh out loud lines, just fantastic. I need my mommy and I don't care who knows it, brilliant. It was brilliant. You know the whole episode. It's such great mother daughter because then the scenes with Laura Lae and Emily are amazing. She goes over Leilanie has the night off, Emily's heating up the roast and and Laura la genuinely says like when Dad's gone, what do you do? And it was sweet and sad and happy and all

of the things. Yeah, when it's when when when, when it's this well written, right, then the comedy really really pops. Then then then it's just like, this is the type of comedy that comes from great stress. Yeah, you know, you know, and all of the comedy came out of great stress. And it was just hilarious, just absolutely. It was the funniest of the episodes. And it was also the most uh it was the deepest and most heartfelt. Yeah, and most powerful. I mean, good god powerful and it's God.

I mean, I hope they submitted this for for for an Emmy Award. You know, I think this is the type of episode that you submit and you go, look there it is, you know, yeah, because yeah, we get to the scene that I thought was one of the most hurt breaking, heart wrenching. So it's the four adults played by the people that play the four adults discussing this situation while Christopher and Laura Lie are upstairs sitting in the floor on the corner and I mean, what's

his Doozy says get rid of it? Like and then friends Francine said send her away, and you know, like, oh my gosh, I literally that that scene was a lot that was that was a lot. Well, it was. It just showed you what what the stakes were for those families, you know, and how rare this is, uh, you know, for for families like this to have to

deal with. I thought Emily was being a good mom in this in this yeah, yeah, she was defending her daughter because they were basically being like, Christopher so young and he has a bright future, and she's like, so does my daughter, you know. And when um, Christopher's dad was like, just have her get rid of it, She's like, no, I don't know. I just I felt a lot for

Emily in that situation, like she was well. And then Richard Richard says they will get married, they will live here Christopher, Christopher will work for my company, and you're just like, oh, wow, well, how do you feel. Let's let's take a poll here amongst the upper crusty types. Right, this probably doesn't happen very often, but it probably happens more often than people realize. What percentage do you think

terminate the pregnancy versus having the child? Mhm, Such a tough conversation, but probably most do not have the child. I would say I would agree, right, it was it was inappropriate the way she said it, and it was inappropriate of the mother in law, for lack of a better word, to suggest it to me, that's something that Laureli decides for herself with her parents, nobody else is involved. What a dilemma, My god, what a what a what a what a great premise to to to jump started

show from what a launch. Christopher really was siding with the adults. I'm using, was like, right, I'm going to do what? So this show really framed it up for us that this was lauralized decision not to marry him and not to be and to escape that life. This was her This was her ticket at a dodge, she could go start in new life somewhere else with her baby, and she made that decision and all and in those moments with the nurse and looking into the nursery at

that child, the flashbacks look at you know, looking at Rory. Yeah, I mean, and I will say, after watching this, it made me feel like like better towards Emily and Richard because I think prior to this, I was constantly thinking like, how could they just tell her daughter she needs to get married at sixteen? Like how can they just you know,

be so ruthless like that. But then after watching this episode, I and I'm not saying it's right, but I can see Richard's like the wheels turning in his brain, like, you know, I want to help my daughter. I want to set them up for success. I want, you know, like to have my granddaughter. This is the plan, because this will help them. No, but this is okay. So that's one part of it. The other part of it is Emily and Richard desperately trying to save their reputations

and the reputation of their daughter. That is a huge event, totally on the social scene. Everybody talking about it because they're going to be judging Richard and Emily. How did this happen? What bad parents they must have. Emily is a shrew. Of course her daughter is going to end up like this and this, and then they're just out there parios, right, maybe so they're just fighting, fighting for their lives. Here, their whole lives are at stake, here,

their social lives. We're jumping around the flashback. I thought also that was so interesting is she's watching Quincy eating a sandwich, goes into labor and just gets herself to the hospital, and then you see you know, Emily and Richard come in sort of like we'll freaking out, Like you don't go have a baby without telling your mom and dad, you know. Like, but you're like, oh, wow, Lorala is really starting to show she is doing this her way, that that she's leaving, that this is her

ticket out. I mean, I know we're jumping ahead, but but it poses more questions than it answers, even with the flashbacks. And that's what's so brilliant about it, because now I want to see deeper back into floralized past with Emily and Richard and what led her to this point where she's pregnant and she's leaving a note and she's like, I'm gone, and it was painful. I felt for Emily who was devasting needed that her daughter and

her granddaughter are gone. Gone, And just such brilliant acting because we don't even know what the notes said, and we knew immediately, oh, this is so painful and they're gone. They make that subtle reference to oh, she put the stroller away, and then you're like, oh, they are out. It's just there's just so many questions to answer here. You know, why how did Laurela become this How did she become so rebellious sixteen years old? How did she

become so brave? That's sixteen years old? I mean sure never was a prequel. You would want it to start when she's thirteen or you know what I mean, Like, you wouldn't want it to just start the day they get pregnant, because there's so much more to learn from before that. Right, You've got to examine that relationship with Laurela and her parents and what happened to her at school? What her you know, what did she go? Where where did Laurela go to? You would assume she was at

some Chiltern type school. Obviously she wasn't at Chiltern because I think we would have known that, right, but something like that she was, so yeah, that's your prequel. That's where it starts, Okay, So we then flash I love the going back. It's a big wedding between Luke and Laurela,

and then they keep flashing back to that exactly. And I would love to know Luke's story the prequels, they're both their stories, because I'd love to see Luke with his father growing up in the town, and the young babette and the young miss Patty and the young maybe even Kirk. Okay, So we then go back to Boston Memorial. A young Taylor would be good. I want to see Taylor in college, right, because you get the vibe that Taylor was probably friendly with Luke's dad. Yeah, they definitely

had a relationship. Hey, let's don't don't give Warner brothers. They're going to figure No, no no, no, they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna figure out a way to prequel without any of us, you know. Okay, So we go back to Boston Memorial and this is where Rory's just rolling calls for Sherry, and then we find out that Sherry says Rory is going to go in the delivery room and she delivers. She calls Laurel, I like, I need my mommy. I mean, can you imagine if poor Rory

had to go the delivery room. You guys, I've been in the delivery room once and I was I was twenty nine years old, and I felt I was too young to be kids. My god daughter, she and my cousin asked me to be in the delivery room. It's a big job, a very very big job. So when Sherry asked out of Roy was like, oh, Rory is gonna be in for a treat. This is a big ride.

It's an intense experience. Yeah for me. One of the most minificant things is that Rory asked Laura La to come, and Laura like it dropped, goes yeah, of course, I mean freaking out, tears just rolling. Emily points out like this is how can you go to the birth of

Christopher's child? This must be so terrible for you, and Laura La just sums it up like it doesn't matter because Rory asked me to come, Laura, does Laura La leave the dinner table that she's sitting out with Rory if Emily calls her is freaking out, says you have to come to the hospital. Wow, I think I would say she does. I think she would too. Yeah, I think she would. I mean she dropped everything when Richard

was in the hospital. She's all she's all grown up, and she's forgiven everybody, and she's tolerating everybody, and she's still you know, her own woman, still snarky, is hack and does that. So Christopher shows up and you know, you see just the bond between them, but then they're really Sharry out and more legoes have fun? Boy, that that's right, that's funny. And then and she goes, well, you know best i'd come up with, have fun? And

Laura I trying to talk Sharry up the ledge. She's like, at first, you're gonna think you gave birth to Flynn, but they'll give that kid a good scrub, right right, right, Danielle, I don't want to lead the witness. But how are you feeling about Sherry and Christopher's chances? Not high? Sorry, not high? And remember, Danielle, you're under oath not hi. Why why could possibly what could possibly break these two up? At this point? I don't know. Is he gonna get

on his motorcycle and go to California again? Uh? Huh? What's he gonna do? Is he gonna take off? Is he gonna take off? Well we'll see. Hey, lord God, I'm in Wisconsin. What are you doing there? When I got my motorcycle? You know? And well, you know, it's like Jesus God, this episode is so dense. I mean, I know I say that all the time. But so then we go back to the diner and we see the funny scene between Jess and Kirk, like Kirk's like, I don't want to go home. It's boring there, like

my chev is broken. And then incomes Luke and Nicole, which I saw him perfectly pull out her chair, which I thought was so charming. And then you know they're having their coffee and Jess was like, I'm going out for about an hour just being guy code right Luke Luke, He's like, huh what and then Luke takes him outside to like give Kirk unless you need lunder over having Kurt leans over Nicole. They have amazing communication. So what do you think of What do you think of Nicole

and Luke? I think he likes her and he's excited, and you know they're they're having a good time there. They're conversing well, you know, he's, uh, he's keeping up with a lawyer. You know, she's a smart, smarty smart So he's feeling pretty good about himself because he's able to keep up and keep her interesting. Yeah, she's a little fancy for him, so he's he's all jazzed up. Man. That's a that's a step up right for it. I like it. It's cute, that's cute. She's a city gal.

She's coming on, So everybody stay tuned because Scott's going to be interviewing and spending some time this week. I think with Nicole, lahy Nicole, Okay. So then Chris, So we go back to the hospital and Christopher comes out and Rory's sleeping and he says to Laurel, I like, do you want to come see the baby? And I just wrote of my notes, wow, wow, wow, like this is so messy, but wow, like it was just how do you describe heaviness, happiness, sadness all at the same time.

I don't know that I read happiness and Laureli was reaction to all of that. What I read. What I read was that definitely the heaviness and the complications and neon we and what could have been with this guy, and what could have been with her life had this guy not, you know, had a little more control, Because I do think there's a part of lord line that's

happy that Rory has a sister. Yeah, but yeah, probably, But I think it really that moment was about her and taking stock in her life and how complicated things get and how unpredictable things are, all the conflicting feelings she's having. I mean, this did I make the right decision because because it ultimately comes down to one woman, one girl making a decision that's going to affect the rest of her life, or two decisions, one having the

baby to leaving her family. So two huge decisions that she made, and the you know, the ripple effect of this decision is continuing. You know, the waves are coming back at her now, so you know, and they're hitting or they're lapping up against her shore line. Yeah, it was excruciating to watch, like the hearts broke for her. Oh god, she's got to see this baby. And then he is so elated it like this is so amazing And I wanted to be like, hey, ask you have

another kid. Yeah. I feel like in this part, I was like loyal is looking at this being like this could have been us, This should have been us. Heyes, seriously I thought that. I was like, isn't she the most beautiful ever? And it's like d word no. But she played it perfectly. I mean she played it beautifully, didn't she. I Mean, those that's that's the hard hardest part of acting sometimes and she did it so well,

so well. So proud of her, you know, so proud of her because that's a tough that's a tough situation that for the character, that's a tough situation of being got to play all those conflicting emotions. Speaking of conflicting, then we end this episode with two of the most powerful scenes at the same time, because it is the DVD player. She just shows up with the DVD player

and all the movies her mom would want. We then flash back to the scene we've talked about this whole episode of Emily in her fancy eighties gown realizing they're gone, her daughter, her baby, and her grand baby. And then we flash back to Laura La saying I can figure

out how to set this up. Yeah, I'll go up to the bedroom TV, you know, like and Emily giving the classic line like you could ruin her TV set, which is like what everyone says when you're like a young person trying to like give them some new technology. I just thought, god, wow, and I just wrote crying again. I mean I cried through both those scenes and the episode ended, and it was a good I was still crying as I went to the bathroom, like brush my teeth.

Oh you know, yeah, I was at EP two. I mean, it made me miss my my family so much, thirty miles away from them. They're they're coming, They're coming. Yeah, So for everyone listening. So Scott's working, which we've talked about, and his family isn't with him, and this poor Scott, Like I'm so of all the episodes, we couldn't just throw Scott like a funny one. We have to throw literally want not like something, and we just give him

the most right. It is the most powerful so far. Absolutely, I mean, this was just you know, this was ground shocking. This was shock and all. I was just like, wow, um and so well done because I love I just I had the same reaction at the young Lorra ly and the young Christopher that first I was really like, that's not Christopher, that's not Loria Lye. And then by the end of the episode, I was literally like, Okay,

they were great. Yeah, yeah, they were great. Yeah. It was great risk too, I mean a risk to do the episode this way. Um, no, it's definitely paid off. You think that's how I think they know exactly. I think I think Amy and Dan know exactly when to do something like this. This was the moment, This was a perfect moment to do this. It was completely unexpected, We've never seen it before. It was shocking. It was shocking to me because I said, because I said to myself,

I said, no, they're not going to do this. Wow, what I mean? That's like George Blenda going out there on the tight rope, you know, with no net and and it's like they're walking the tight rope, but this one and they pulled it off beautifully. Say, season three is quite the season. We've had many episodes that are probably the best of the whole series. Like for a show to just get better and better as the seasons

go on, you see how much easier it is. This is also another example of why teen shows are so popular with networks, because there's just so much easier to do. I mean, teens don't even have to be doing very much. It doesn't have to be that much going on. It's just like, look good, their clothes are cool, they're saying the right things. We're gonna watch it. Do you consider this? But adults cannot get away with that. They have to have this level of drama and Injurgue that we saw

today to keep it really engaging. Half a teen show, A teen show? What do you consider this show? Yeah? I think it's like half and half. I mean, I mean, it's a young network, right, look, and I think a me and Dan are smart enough to realize that the teen stuff ain't gonna work as stand alone and an adult stuff ain't gonna work as stand alone. They it's it's it's a symbiotic relationship between the teen and the adults.

So they I mean, if you think about other other shows at the time, it was, this isn't Friends, this isn't the West Wing. It's a drama. Y m hmm. It's got you know, but it is young. It is teen in many ways. Yes, c WC always always a younger demo, but you know, this show broke out into other demos as well. I feel like the grandma's love this show. They do. You know, I'm getting approached every day all day up here whoever you can get with your daughter and your mom, you know, like if you're

it's three generations can watch it together. It's no question about it. It spans all generations. It's it's really amazing, really really amazing, And we've talked about it so much it will continue to. But the difference between the way I see it now and the way I saw it twenty years ago. Is I don't know that I cried at this episode twenty years ago. M hmm, I don't know. I know, I didn't. I didn't see it. I just had to do my what couple of scenes and then

go to Colorado. She had great scenes in this show that I did. I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed it. So next week we're gonna do Swan Song its episode fourteen, season three. Man, we're three course away through almost three course away through season three. Yeah, it's Lucky off a job. What what what? No, No, got a long way. We've got a long way to go, and I'm doing now. I have to do podcast and the commercials that appeared on Gilmore Girls. You know, I'm telling you, bun heads,

we after we finished Gilmore. That doesn't matter, sense, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You're gonna you're gonna make me watch Oh Love. We'll see at the time we finished the movies, they'll be the pretty cool. Yeah, they've got years. They've got a couple of years, so you're good. Oh my goodness. Um, hey man, with you, with you two knuckleheads, I'll talk about anything. And Scott I know too much fun. We're thinking of you, like we're so sorry.

We're happy that you have this great job, but we're we are sorry that you're there. Like the life of an actor is not all unicorns and rainbows. For Scott's just like a loan in a random city. I am. I'm keeping busy though. You know what I did today. I ran up There's a very steep hill here, and I ran up that hill about ten times until I was so exhausted. I wasn't feeling I couldn't even feel my face, you know what I was just saying. But

it's but, but I like the weather. You know, it's not hot, it's sixty degrees and cloudy, and your run up the hills and then it's sunny. Right, It's great. But we do. Yeah, especially after this episode, it's like poor Scott came to see him alone in his like place that they're just crying. Hopefully Swan Song isn't much happier uplifting lifting episode. So I have I have all these videos of my son, uh you know, doing his robotics, doing his karate and karate class on my phone, and

I spend so much time watching these videos. Seriously, I know. I mean, it's just like you know, and I'm laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing. And then before I have to go to bed, I cry because I missed my little guy. You know. Well, and you've been with the NonStop. This is your first time like being away from him. Huh um. Well, you know when I do a convention, yeah, I'll go for like three four days. I went to I went to Europe a few times, two conventions. That's five days, and

that was tough. He was much younger, but it was just still tough. But now it's been you know, it's been like you know, I left. I left eight weeks. Yeah, you're two weeks. It's it's hard, man. Yeah, I just you know, before I came hold you guys, I texted my wife. I said, you need to you need to face time me. I am not doing well because I just finished this episode. I'm all by myself in tears. I need to talk to somebody. Okay, good, So let's

do Let's do this every day and suddenly every day. Yeah, we'll put up about three we'll do fifteen episodes a week. We'll release fifteen in a week. It's not too much work, is it. Well, like we said later this week Nicole Lady and pop culture, so you get to see us two more times. All right, let's so anyway, gug great episode, thanks for downloading. We're gonna wrap this puppy up in a nice ribbon and bow, nice wrapping paper. Uh. Perfect episode,

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