Red Meat Can Kill You, Enjoy with Yanic Truesdale and Macy Gray (S1, E1 "Pilot")

haven't done that yet. I think I'm well, let's talk after all right, because it's like I'm in real neat. How how you are you in Australia. I'm in Australia. It's nine am for me. I woke up early just for you. You know you're there. You're a first guest. Oh really, you're the first guest. You're the first guy I wanted on. I said, what the what's the occasion or what's like? I know very little. I just said yes and here I am. But you're my name. It's a yes. You don't even have the right, so what it?

What's going on? This is a podcast for I heart so and we're and and I'm having you know, everybody that wants to come on the show just sort of, you know, banter with me and take a walkdown memory. That's your first podcast ever, ever, I've never done a podcast before. Wow, that's so funny. Where would I you know? I did a I was a guest on a podcast about a year and a half ago. The producer and I hit it off, and then I don't know about nine months ago, I called her and said, what about

this idea? And she goes, sure, let's do it. That was as simple as that, And I said, I'm not doing it unless True's Dale is the first guest right out. Yes, well there you go and a recurring guests. And I fought for you and I want there you are? How are you great? We're moving into our new place tomorrow, so we're a little influx for the last couple of months. Is the house is remodeled, and you know, I saw place. Where is that? May? I asked, um, it's a little

closer to the beach. Let's just yeah, because I'm like, you don't want to get your addressed. What's the address? It's got one to three Primrose Lane, any Town, America, USA, one double O Oh so that's exciting. I like the beach. That's That's one part that I enjoyed being here a lot is that the house is right on the beach. That's that's that's a light change. Great. Isn't that great? Oh my god? For me? The ocean is everything? Like I regroup. Yes, yeah, so there's a ton of questions. Okay,

there's a ton of questions. Fans want to know. This is you know, I really I want to do this before the fans. You know, they're they're they're getting hung out to dry a little bit. We should be doing more episodes and we're not. Everybody. You're turning into this international superstar never available. You know, someone's got to do it, you know, unless that took all the room. So I want to know, and the fans want to know. How did you get the part? Tell us how you get

the part? What was the process? Yes? Oh my god. Well I had moved to l a uh ten months prior something like that. Um and uh, because I wanted to work in America, because my career was all in Canada and I felt like I had done it. And um, a friend of a friend, I actually actually went a friend of a friend of mine had a eight with an assistant at CIA, and she didn't want to go by herself. Can't Yeah, it's a lunch thing better. So

I was like, I can't go. It's a day. She's like, now, it's not a date, just comp Anyway, I was so embarrassed to be there and be in the way that I was trying to be funny and entertaining during that lunch. Well, little did I know that this assistant became an agent six months later and did find me funny and had seen the breakdown for Gilmore and I didn't have an agent. He called and he said I saw this part, and

I thought of you, do you have an agent? Like I was like, yeah, that would be my first audition in L A G. Yeah wow. Yeah. Were you nervous when you went in? Were you a little bit nervous? I mean you're you're you're a real professional. I mean you're really a trained theater actor. Do you get an was I don't really get nervous when I'm prepared rights because I got the script last minute and like I don't know the words, but if I'm prepared and I know the lines and stuff, So I was not I

was not nervous. I was excited because it was my first audition to UM. But yeah, so and then I had, like I don't know, gazillion callbacks. It took it took a while. Really, that's because it was it was a series. It was written as a series regular. Part the series regular. No one knew me um and so I had to go back for Amy, I had to go back for a producer. I had to go back for studio and

then network. So so okay, so let's talk about when you read the script initially, what were your initial thoughts on Michelle. I don't think I had the script. I had a few scenes. If you seen a couple of signs right, and you were lucky if they spelled your name right, it wasn't Rush Rushell or your dishell, you know, because they did that to me. It was Luke and the Duke. And I said, I didn't prepare the Duke. Yeah. They gave me two scenes, but one said Luke, the

other said said Duke. So they said and you naturally, I thought, well, maybe that's a typo. But I didn't prepare it. And because I had three auditions that day and they said we'll go out and learn it come back, and I said, okay, thanks a lot for that, but what your part originally not a series regular, It was a guest star role on the pilot, but it began with the diner and ended with the diner, so we

figured it was just a heat check anyway, you know. Interesting, Yeah, it was a chemistry check because you know how they reshoot stuff all the time. It's like, you know, and I was, I was, I was even I'm still a pon, but it was still a small I was a small, tiny, nothing p on. Back then, they could have just like recast like get out of here, go go away, they do that, but they didn't because the magic was there.

The magic was there, right, so so so was it easy to perfect that accident knowing that you're you're you're from Quebec? Was that character from Quebec? Where was he from? What was that character was from? Was Parisian? Was French? And the accent is different from a French Canadian accident. But because that accident is so familiar to me, like I didn't have to spend much time on that. That was so no, no, because you just you just nailed

that so huge. It was just such you know, you have this way of forcing people and I hate you for it, but I love you for it, of hanging on every single word. Um with that accident malfluus, that rolling, Yeah, and it still has a bite to it. So it's it's, uh, do you consider Michelle to be rude or just honest? I think honest, honest, But in the context of a different culture, you know, because Michelle, Michelle and Paris is not rude. They're they're all they're all like him, right,

put him in the context of America. He is rude because people don't speak their mind right. When they do, it's because they're being rude. He's just And the French loves to have an argument, right, You would think they're fighting, but it's just they love the conversation and the benter and arguing about the subject, just taking unpurposed the opposite side, absolutely like dissect. I mean, you just can't sit there and eat the dinner, you know, you got you gotta Yeah,

So yeah, I don't think he is rude. No, okay, all right, Um, so here's a little bit of a personal question. Do you think people think that you are prickly in real life? Yes, they do do, they do well, they think, because when you do something well in this business, as you know, people think you are that person. Right, So they're always first of all shocked that when I opened my mouth, when they've never seen me in anything else that I don't speak like Michelle. It's like, well, no,

this is the character I'm not. But um, and then they're like, oh, you're so nice, You're so sweet. I was afraid to say hi to you, right right, right, right, right right, don't you. So there's a little bit of that perception that you are that character. But quickly they realize how charming I am. It's overwhelming, Yes, it's overwhelmed.

Well, well well, that's why I fought so hard for you to be the debut guest on The Day podcast, because you know, they wanted they wanted Tom Crows, and I said, dude, no, no, no, no, no, it's got to be. Tom called me this morning. He was upset. He's still upset. He's a little upset. But that's okay. I mean, listen, I killed my chances of ever being in like Mission Impossible seventeen or eighteen or nineteen. Right, there's no way I'm out right, Yeah, I got a

good word for you. Ye. So uh. He called me this morning, said, I'm removing the panic button from your fireplace. Um, what do you think is the what's your favorite Michelle line? Do you have a favorite? Do you even remember? I can't remember. It had so many yeah, so many, twenty per episode. Yeah, so it's really hard to pick. There's there's one that has stuck over the years that people mentioned. So it's the one from the pilot. People about to

today all East tupid today. I can't talk to any more of them, but I still like very much that line from I can't remember which episode when there was an elderly lady at the end and she came to the front desk and that, excuse me, sir, do you know where I could find the best antiques? And Michelle's answer was at your house? I guess I I like that line a lot. Yeah. Let's uh look, listen, we cannot we cannot not talk about Lauren Graham. Um. Yeah, I just watched the pilot, and I haven't seen the

pilot in a long time. I was stunned and how how great she is and how she was fantastic, nuanced and so funny and so effortless and just wow and you yes, absolutely, even even the pauses and everything. I mean, it was just uh working on a level that you can um. Yeah, and the two of you together were it was chess perfection. So let me ask you on on a personal side. Did did the chemistry between you and Lauren? Uh? Was it? Was it immediate? Order it

grow over time? I would say immediate. Um, But we became friends, so I am sure that the personal friendship that we had outside informed the work over the years. But um, but we immediately liked each other and immediately went for a coffee I think when we came back from so there was there was an instant like, oh I like you, you are right right right, and it never went away. So good, Yeah, good? And Melissa you remained friends from Melissa, what's it like working Well, obviously

I'm here in Australia doing a show with her. Now we've remained friends all of these years. But um, you know, she is now kind of big actress, so I don't get to see her as much as I use you. So that's the blessing of doing this job together, this Neflix is that we can hang out and see each other and and go to dinner and all of that, right right, that's been fun to reconnect and and enjoy each other's company. We'll give her my best tell her.

I said, hello, um yes, um, so listen. Michelle's favorite singer on the show is Selene Diane. How do you personally, how do you feel about Selene Dion? I mean, I'm I've always been impressed by the talent, right, the voice, um, and and the dedication to I mean, you guys don't know this, but you know, we've known Celin since she

was fourteen or thirteen or whatever age she was. And at a very very young age she said on TV and everyone laugh and she looked a little weird and she had bad teach she said she wanted to be as famous as Michael Jackson. And she said, and she I think she would. She said that, like she was not even twenties. She was like, no, you know, and I appreciate someone's dedication to their dream and she remained focused and she wanted that and she got it somehow.

I mean, she was never Michael that, no one can be Michael Jackson, but it's an image and she's definitely, you know, she's world wide famous and known and hasn't. I I think that level of fame and talent, I think I think that just doesn't happen. You rarely doesn't happen. It happens. You have to want it. I mean, you have to want it very very badly. Um, and then you'll put the work in and you'll you know, there's no plan B, there's no fall back plans. This is

what I am. This is what that relationship with her manager that became her husband and all that. I just find the whole thing fascinating. He mortgaged his house to finance her first album, and the whole thing. It's something magical in this whole um story. So yeah, in some ways, I mean I'm not I don't buy her albums and stuff. It's not my kind of music, But I do admire the town excellent. Um. So you know, I took a few throwing things from the set. I borrowed them. I

borrowed them. I just I just want to make sure they were going to be well looked at. Um, what about you? What did you? What did you borrow? And what are you overseeing? What are you looking at? I mean, maybe they have uh put in storage a few of the suits. Maybe maybe I would have to look into this. You're gonna have to look on the Bill of Lady see it. Maybe some wan time probably put time to be a belt who knows who knows? Hey, that's good

enough for me. Um. You know there were seven of us who were in all the episodes, all hundred fifty four. What was your what was your favorite moment moments, not episode moments filming? What was your favorite moment? I know what line was? You do you do? You know? You go first? I mean, it's it's so hard. There's an episode that that was one of the most fun episodes for me was the episode when Michelle went to l A and to the prices right and he got bone

tucks and veneers and all of that. It was just a lot had happened to him, and it was layered in the story how he was so so episode tickled me. Tickled me, and I remember at the table read like people laugh a lot at the stuff he had in the episode. So I think still mean that episode, uh would be the highlight because you got out of your box a little bit and it was fun and more things happening him right, like when he lost his dog.

Something was happening, because otherwise Michelle was always like in and out commenting on what was happening, but rarely something happened to him right right, So what would be what was yours? You know, it's odd because people, you know, give me a little grief when I tell them because of all you know, he said, all the people you get to work with, and all those great moments you had, Lauren, all the characters. I said, yeah, but it was that

was common, I said. The thing that I never got to do was to do action, and and and and all it took was a wall and a sledgehammer and uh and smashing a hole in the wall and telling uh, Jess, this is your room now, and we can You know, I had a couple of LOKs. I forget what that. Yeah, but I got to do something physical and you love that. And I just thought, wow, this is the first time in you know, all these years that I got to

do anything like this, I know. Yeah, and walking through those bikers that you know, the bicycle racers through the thing, which I didn't receive stunt pay for and I could have been injured because they were flying around, they were going very fast and I had to walk right through them and not look at them. And then oh they were Oh yeah, you weren't there, that waday but they were zipping you know the bike race thing. There were

real racers with really fast bikes. Oh my god. Uh And I did it again and again and again, never got hit, and uh, I was interesting. I find I'm discovering that I have to do a lot of stunts in the show. I'm shooting here in Australia because I play an angel um and so I have to do a lot of flying in the air and I flew out of a car the other day and all kinds of stuff. And I have a big battle fight that I'm training for and it's all new to me. But

I love physical stuff. It's very it's very exciting. And blue screen I've never done loose screens stuff, you know, where you really have to use your imagination creating something there. Um, it's a part of it's a part of the acting brain. I agree. I love to use it more. That's why I enjoyed that moment so much, because it wasn't like, Okay, chunks of dialogue, chunks of dialogue, chunks of blocking, chunks

of dialogue. Here we go now it's just like, okay, I hit the wall, all right, Uh uh okay, so you recently, well so we so we talked about so it's called God's Favorite Idiot. Yeah, and tell us a little bit about the premise, I mean, tell us a little bit. But what's happened it Basically it's Lissa McCarthy and Ben Falcone. Ben wrote it. Uh, it's Leslie Bib

and Kevin Dunn and myself. And it's basically God has chosen this really simple guy who works in a tech company who's played by Ben Falcone, to save the world nothing more than nothing. He would be my first choice to I mean yeah, and he doesn't understand why he's chosen. He's like me, why what am I? Suppo? And so um, God sends an angel and arn't angel Chapuel who is me to kind of guide him into the mission saving

the world. That's basically the very silly premise. Um, and it's it's a lot of fun, and it's it's a movie or is it a series? Now? It's just theories. Eight episodes shooting two seasons back. Yeah, sixteen episodes total, O fense. Good for you. That's a fantastic gig. So you're gonna do them all down there. Yes, we're here until August. We've been here since February. Unbelievable. That's an eight month job. A month job, and by the way,

in a country that has handled the pandemic amazingly. There's no COVID around. We don't wear mask here, we don't do distant ciation, we don't do it like there's no Yeah, so I mean that really is God's sent. Yeah. No. I I went down the beach today and uh and didn't wear a mask and I was almost arrested. I got some journey looks from the place, and I just have a nice day. Yeah, you're in a different country

in different situations. I forgot you know. I go down there and ride the bike and you know, run a little bit, and I just I forgot it today. Boy, that that raised some hackles. Let me tell you something. Um uh, you know what, how many times did you and I have scenes together? Not that many. I do remember that time where you came to the front desk and you wanted to see lower La and I was giving you grief, right, Yes, yes, I remember that scene and another scene where I wanted you to fix something

in the end, or maybe it's the same episode. I don't know, but yeah, we were in the we did we There were lines back and forth, but not many, not many, very few, very few. Like with Ed Herman, I think I had one scene in the whole thing. This isn't amazing. The two most talented guys in in the history of Hollywood and they don't match us together. It's it's it's isn't it bizarre? Is it weird? Going with? So? I actually maybe he could have sent me to your

dinner a couple of times. I don't know, right, you pats, Yeah, yeah, I just I wasn't the guy to sort of like leave notes for her with it with ideas, right, No, because I saw what happened to people that did, and they were you know, it was like the floor went out from under them and they fell into the shark. I think people have tried to do that. Yeah, we

had we had a we had an extra coming. He had one line and he started doing a soliloquy in rehearsal, and we're like, guy, uh, let's let's just wind it down now and have a little chat. It's not gonna work here. I know, I know, you think this is your moment. You're gonna take advantage of good for you. Don't lose that mentality. But not here. Yeah, that was not the show for that. No, no, no, no, And let me ask you this, And this is not from an egotistical point of view. I have to ask this

question instead of curiosity. How did you feel about the character of Luke? How did I feel? I mean, you mean me to camp Michelle? How did you feel about you? I think let's go with you and Michelle. How did you feel about Well, Michelle didn't Michelle didn't care about you. Clearly you're like you were. You couldn't have been more remote from anything he liked or cared about, that's for sure.

But yeah, yeah, unique thought that it was a great character that you developed and made made him very daring and um you just you know, he was just a good guy. You you just imperson impersonated this this good many heart. But yeah, that's how I perceived that character. It's just like the guy that works at this place and you go and his good heart. He comes from a good place and means well does his bad you know, that's what he can do. Guy that is never going

to leave that town. Right, it's never gonna. It's not even in the like he doesn't forget and he sees her and it's like, now you know any thoughts of le and you're like, no, no, no, I'm staying. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fight it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be worth always. By the way, I've always said that in my next life, I would like to be reincorinated in someone like that, who doesn't have really ambition, is very easily satisfying, who

likes what they have going on. That's it like a simple life, right, I feel like it must be very peaceful. I don't know. I don't see it in the cards for you. I think you're gonna come back some kind of a king. I really do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, you're gonna have it. You're gonna have it. You're gonna have it. I think that's done. That was no no, no, no, no, no, you're screwed up. You were assassinated a few times. Now

when you're coming back, you're gonna do it right. You're gonna do it right this time, and you will be you will be revered. Okay, alright, uh all right, here's here's and bliss it. I'm not gonna take this personally because I think I already know the answer. Who is your favorite character to work with? To work but well, it's it's it's easy to pick because they are the only two that I worked with. Because it's Melissa Laurence.

All of my scenes were with her. I did have scenes with Kelly Bishop from time to time, and I had a lot of fun things. She's still a friend to this day. How's she doing. She's doing She's doing Okay, she lost her husband and that it's it's been challenging because she lost her husband and then the pandemic. A lot of loneliness. Um, but she she's she's doing better. She's good, good, good, good good good. Um. So we hear that one of your guilty pleasures is The Bachelor.

Did you watch it this season? What are your thoughts? When did I say that, I mean I think I watched it one season years ago. I want to say it like a decade ago, Like I'm not sure how it happened, and I just got hooked on the characters that were there and the people and then you get

invested somehow. It's a really weird By the way, the same happened here when I did my quarantine in Australian Sydney, because you stuck in the hotel room and I watched TV, like, and there's a show here called Married at First Sight. I don't know if it exists in America, which is the weirdest concept on earth. You marry someone you've never met, and then and then you date and then literally the

characters or those people are just questionable at best. And I just got invested and and I had to watch the last episode was Sunday, and I set my timer on my phone and it was it was. It was that bad. Huh yeah, use the timer. Nature and pettiness and it is it truly? Is it truly? Is um? You know we have you know you're with You're with the Uh, we're gonna do some conventions together once it once it opens back up. You know, we're the same agent. I don't know. Oh that's true, and I know, well,

no nobody has. But I did a couple with Sean. Yeah, yeah, I had in the past, two I had, I did. I did one in Houston with Milo and we did. We did a panel together and we did it was just there. So it's you're gonna love this because you haven't done them before. Have you done them before? You you have a couple. I've done a couple, but I haven't done them much. You know. You get to meet the fans. It's it's so much but every day on the streets, you know what I mean. So, but this

is different. They're really like, they're really coming to and there and you can spend time with them, true, can you really? You know, you can spend a couple of minutes with them just talking to them, getting to know them, and it's it's it's fantastic. So it'll be fun to do that. So, okay, you're ready for rapid fire. I'm gonna fire some questions at you. Okay, sure you're ready? Okay, all right? How do you like? How do you take your coffee? Very rarely quick coffee? Really, I'm drinking mainly

green tea. Can you smell snow? Can you smell snow? Nope? Okay? Are you team Logan, Jess or Dean? Who's the daddy? What does that mean? Who's the daddy? Who's who's the Oh, it's it's a logan best best I don't know the best memory of Gilmore Girls. Best memory of Gilmore Girls. Uh, Sally strutters and uh saying not finding not having a chair to sit on outside and it's like forty five degrees and saying, uh, don't they know who we were? You know she's gonna be on next week? Um. Favorite

Friday night dinner meal. Oh boy, I'm too old to remember that, say Burger and fries. Uh show you're binge watching right now? I just finished. It's a sin Uh British show created by the guy who created Careers Folk cried like a baby. It's about the age crisis in London in the eighties. It's fantastic. Okay, Uh, this is obvious cast member. You texted most recently Melissa, There you go both, there you go about my chocolate cake that I brought them on Saturday and wanted to know if

there was any any left. These are the important issues that people don't know about behind the scenes. See, we've we've we've lifted the cart a little bit, and these are the issues. These are the this is the glue that holds these relationships together. Um. I appreciate the time that you gave waking up earlier to talk to us, and it's always great talking to you. It's great seen you. Please come back, please come back. We'll be calling on

you again. Okay, So if you can wake up again, we would love to have you back on because this was really fun. Um, get my best best to Melissa and Ben. Have a great shoot, um and all the best my friends. Stay healthy, stay safe. Okay, alright, buddy, Okay, you good seeing pal? Alright, bye bye? Alright. Jannie Truesdale, what a what a guy, what a talent, what a guest. Uh, He'll be back hopefully many many times during this podcast.

But we have another super guest, Grammy winning singer songwriter extraordinaire, Macy Gray. She'll come on later in the show, Macy Gray. So stay tuned. Yeah, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. We're back. Wasn't he great? Don't you just love Yannie Truesdale? I mean, my god, what a fun guy. Um. I could talk to him all day. He's going to

come back and talk to us some more. Okay, So now we're gonna bring in Amy, our are intrepid producer of the podcast, and she's gonna fire off some questions and try to stump me. Good luck, and we are all watching Gilmore Girls again except for you, who's watching it. Well, right, I'm going to experience because I've never seen it. I'm gonna I'm going to experience it for the first time. Is that true? Well? Yeah, here's here's the here's the cliche.

When you make the sausage, you don't want to eat it. So, um, I'll work on that. That'll maybe not not no pun intended. I'll trying to make that line a little more appetizing. But um, yeah, I know. I didn't go home and watch it. I've only ever seen Winter because I was at the Netflix premier I attended and I was forced to watch it, and I liked it. I was very impressed by it. And then I saw the pilot back in two thousand when it aired. So you have not

seen the pilot until today from twenty years ago? Correct? What did you think? I watched it upstairs? I'm we're in her my wife's parents condos because I bought a new house and we're not ready to go in the house yet. They're still doing some work and I had

to be upstairs. There's many levels to this place, but I had to watch it up and up in the den upstairs and my my son, my wife is helping my son with the virtual schooling and going through that, and I was up there cracking up because I forgot how funny, and you know, Drella came on and said, get the heck out of my way, and it was just it was just wonderful to watch it. Um and

my wife. My wife kept shouting up, will you be quiet, We're trying to learn here, and I said, so my so uh yeah, after twenty one years, it was it was eye opening. It really was wonderful show. I have to say, it's a really good show. It holds up, like I've watched it a lot, a lot of times. I mean I probably watched every episode maybe three or four times, five times, and I laughed, and it holds up. It's it's really as good today as it was twenty

years ago. It's really just beautifully woven in with the comedy and the drama and how I mean, it's just wonderfully acted. I mean, every single person that appears on the screen is just delivering, and it's wonderful to watch. Lauren's great god Boy she skilled, and and you know, and Jared PEDALICKI had some some great moments, and I got He was eighteen at that time. He was eighteen years old, and he knew what he was doing as an actor because those scenes are really great. Will you

take us back? How did you get the job? Oh? Sure? Yeah? Well it was third audition, second audition of the day. I had three auditions that day. It was over on the West side of l A And I lived, uh on the Hall of West Hollywood side. So it was the second audition. I I came in. It was a room full of guys. I prepared one scene. I'd read the script. You know, I took it seriously. I was a professional auditioner and I was doing very well and getting, you know, to be the bridesmaid. And I knew would

never never get the job. But they say, we love him, but it's not gonna work out. So um, So I went in with this kind of like the dumb courage of the truly burnt out actor, where I just didn't care anymore because I was so busy. I was actually teaching acting. I had a ton of students, I had a ton of classes to teach. I had to get through these auditions and get to the theater and teach my class. Um. So I just was in a rush. So I did the scene. I liked the people in

the room. I met Amy, I met Gab and I met Leslie Lincoln Gladder. I grade five. Will you tell everybody? Who are so? For anyone who doesn't know, who are those people you just named? Well? Amy? Amy Sherman Palladino was the creator of the show The series with her husband Dan Paladino. So, so Amy was in the room. I don't think Dan was there. I made you mistaken. They they may correct me, which they want to do. Um. But and the director was there, Leslie Lincoln Gladder, who

was a much awarded television director and film director. Gavin Polone, executive producer, was there as well. Uh casting, I forget who was casting? Um but I just you know, I just came in for a, um a guest star role. It wasn't a series regular job. So it was just like, yeah, yeah, it wasn't to be. It was just like, go in, do the gig. Maybe you'll get it. You'll do a one Luke where you going in? WHOA? So at that time, Luke was just sort of like a bit player. Well

At book ended the script. Luke Steiner book ended the script. It was we we begin to pilot there, we end the pilot there, and then there's like a little middle thing I think. But their lead in the show, it became that whoa okay, But that took you know, that took a couple of years, you know, as the fans responded to that relationship, the potential of that relationship, which was you know, on the screen, it was incendiary. It

really no way we're jumping around here. So when you booked this part, it was not to be like where it was Lauren Alexis you. I think they had it. You know, they were doing a chemistry check and I think had it not worked out chemistry wise with Lauren, they would have probably recast or you know, they do that a lot with Pin. But I found out I read a book that that Jared was not the original Dean. Oh really. But anyway, so so I go in the room and I do the audition, and you know, I

was nailing stuff all the time. Wasn't hard for me to to audition. Well, I mean these are you know, I kind of know what I'm doing and I walked in and I did my job, and I like the people, but I didn't like him too much because you can't like him too much, right, and you gotta flip the psychology somehow. And then uh, and then I left and they go, well, were you going? You got another scene to do? I said, no, I don't you sent one scene?

They said no, we sent two. And they showed me the sides, and I looked on my sides and I said, wait a minute, who's Duke? Said there's another character here. There's a Luca and a Duke. You want me to do the duke scene too? Oh, that's a that's a misprint. Sorry, sorrys like, can you go out and learn the scene? Come back into it? Sure, five minutes later, come back in, do the scene. Can I go now? Please? I have to go meet Carmen electra Um. She's playing a fembot.

I'm going to be her boss. Charlie's Angels type movie, I think it was. And I was going to be like the what they call him boss? Was it boss? Hey Bob? He was the guy your no, the love interest, the love interest of the fembot. So and the script is actually pretty good, so I was kind of excited to go go to that one, and that was on the West Side. So that's what I did, and I left and no idea like this is going to change

my life, no idea. I never thought I had a chance because it was the script was so good, um, and movie actors and actresses were starting to move into TV in a big way at that point. Um, And that's when the trend was really sort of picking up momentum in two thousand um. And I thought, this is too good. They're going to get movie people, and it's we don't have a chance. We don't have a chance. And uh, by the time I got home, it was about five o'clock, there was a message on my answering machine.

Remember answering machines that you push your button and you hear the message. And my manager said, you got the job, you got the gig. You're gonna you know, you're gonna Toronto. And ten days or so or two weeks and through the I did read that that they shot the pilot in Canada, but you two, you were going to do the series if it went to series in Los Angeles. It was a vote. It was kind of a vote,

you know. They took a poll with the cast, and I don't think anybody really wanted to relocate to Toronto, even though it's a beautiful place. I mean, it's a really spectacul a place, but people, you know, had families there and they just didn't want to uproot anything. And you know, so Warner Brothers built an entire the entire back lot of Warner Brothers. They just build it up to look like that Unionville and that beautiful place, and

anyone people listening, it's pretty. It's really pretty. It's really pretty. Yeah. So when did you find out from the pilot? Okay, so tell us you go and do the you shoot this pilot up in Canada. Meet more. The first time, uh so flew in, they lost my bags. Went to the hotel in a tracksuit and they said they sympathize with me. Check in and they said, some of your cast is waiting for you across the street and it's just kind of five star restaurant, French restaurant across street.

And I said, I can't go there in a track suit and they said, shrew again, you're a big time person. Now you're filming a show. Nobody cares. So I went over and uh they were very kind. The maitre d was we were expecting you, and Lauren is here. And I met Lauren for the first time, and I was just like, wow, Wow, this is this fantastic She's she's a bit overwhelming when you meet her because there's a lot, a lot of beauty, a lot of flying. Yeah, she's tall,

so it's a striking figure. Um. And she was just so kind and warm and welcoming and we had a drink. Did someone tell you to wear a hat backwards or was that you? I walked in that way. I walked into the audition that way because that's how I dressed. You know, I have a flowing locks and a real thick mane of hair. I like to cover it up, um sometimes, so you kind of Did you wear those plaid shirts too? It's l a. I was weren't tech.

They were like, hey, put this flannel on, keep that hat backwards, and this is what you're going to yeah, and I was. I was. I was happy about it because you know, now I don't have to go through the hair process and the makeup trailer at five am. It's like, just throw it, throw a little powder on my face if you want to throw a hat on. I'll be on set in five minutes. Is Lukey you

are you Luke? Like? Do you have similarities? Are not? Really? Yeah? Some? Yeah, I don't suffer fools, and you know, I can get a little impatience sometimes, but he's very you know the thing about that character, he was so tight. And look me in the script, You're seeing all these happy, fluffy, wonderful colors coming out of all these characters. And I thought, this thing is going to float away like a helium

balloon if there isn't an anchor here. And I know that was part of Lauren's job as well, and Kelly had that job as well as did Ed. But I thought, in a love interest, in a town sense, it's got to be that guy. He's got to be that guy.

He's got to anchor that show, or do at least do his part to anchor that show, and not given to this rhythm and this sort of you know this, this kind of elevated happiness and all of the stuff, right right, And so I just that's the choice I made going into the audition, and hey, it could have failed. I could have fallen on my face with it. And they go, why is this guy being so grumpy, you know,

what's what's with the attitude? But I thought that's the only way that that relationship is possibly going to be interesting or work. I think they kind of described him as cranky with a heart or cranky but cares just don't show it. I mean show it in in actions, but not in you know, sappy kind of smiles and like, oh yeah. The thing about the pilot is you like these people right away. You like every single one of

them immediately. They're real, They're real people. You don't see television shows with so many varied personalities that are real, that are believable. You don't see that. And there's a ton of them, but that's a thirty of them in that town. I mean, there's there's so many characters and there ainting characters, and you meet you meet a good chunk of them in the pilot, and you kind of know them right away. Like I think that was the magic too, you sort of figure out who's who. Okay,

So here's my question. Do they tell you? And we see this more in episode two, so we'll talk more about this next week, but does someone tell you you guys kind of like each other or there's like a small hint of flirt or there's like a little crush, like do you know that they don't tell you too much, but they give you a little you know, they give you a little nuggets. You know. Amy gave me a couple of nuggets. And it was like, yeah, I know how to play this. I'm not I'm not gonna show.

I'm not gonna show very much at all until the very last you see, like, yeah, a glimmering episode one, and next week we'll talk about it more because in episode two you see it. It's almost like foreshadowing. But I digress. Okay, So my other how often do people call you luke when you're like walking down the street? Uh? Season two going to work. I was on Kuwang at the Koanga Pass going to Barham. There was a cab driver, a big guy, UH car accident and he was Nobody

was stopping to help him. So I pulled over to stop him. And that's pretty dangerous that early in the morning, a lot of traffic and it was still kind of dark out, and I just I mean, he was too eighty and he was unconscious and kind of common too. And I got him out of his car and I was helping him to the side of the road and somebody drove by, I don't know, fifty miles and they got a boy. Luke. Now that was like the first time. That was the first time, the first time, but it

was the first. It was the oddest time. Doesn't have to happen, does it happen? Now? Yeah? Everywhere I go, uh Like, people don't even say Scott, they say Luke. If they say anything, they'll just say, you know, like I like to go down to the beach and ride a bike, so I'll unt a bike and they'll, you know, the people that work there will you know, they'll rent me the bike and then when I bring it back, they go by the way. We really love the show, and it's like it's always a nice little aside, right

they say, get off your cell phone. They don't you know, that's actually you know they actually that actually has happened a couple of times. Obviously, I mean I would be stealing Gilmore lines that you like constantly. There was a guy to Jim that yelled at me to get off my cell phone, and I know I know why he did it. Had a smile, he had a smile on his face and I'm like, why is this guy yelling? And why is he smiling? And why is he bothering me? Before we got a break? Well, someone tell us who

were we right? Who was the original Dean? That was Nathan Weatherington. I mean it's common knowledge. Come out, guy, come on, um listen, We're gonna go to a quick break. We'll be right back. Yeah. You know the Gilmore actors that played uh laurelized parents, Richard and Emily Gilmore or some of the most recognizable actors. And Richard, of course was played by Ed Herman, beautifully played by Ed Herman, and and the same with Kelly Bishop who played Emily Gilmore.

I was so aware of it, and I remember filming that first scene with him on the golf course. I was like, I'm working with a legend today. And Kelly is the mom and Dirty Dancing, Like, are you kidding me? Nobody puts baby in the corner like she's like, she doesn't remember this. She goes she gets that from me, and it's like, that's like she's from Dirty Dancing. Yeah, they were definitely the senior members of the staff on that show. And he was like yeah, like he played

FDR and like a couple of things. There's he was sort of like a run and I think he was. Yeah, he had just had this great body of work. Yeah, I mean, but nobody puts a baby in a corner, but Sally. You know Sally. I grew up with Sally and watching All in the Family, that iconic show. And so Sally Strothers will be on with us next week when she has her first appearance in episode two. So yeah, she was. That was pretty major that she was in there too. You guys, we have to talk about Melissa

McCarthy in this pilot episode. I'm watching it for the first time with you, Scott, and I am so shook that she was in the first episode, and I obviously went to Google and found out that she's a regular throughout the series. I'm like this massive, like Melissa McCarthy and go more girls. So cool. Yeah, she she's hysterically funny and a very very gifted actress. You know, we all she was with um oh god, what's that comedy troupe Growlings? A growndling, So she was a member of Grownlings.

We went to see her one evening. She did four or five different characters. She wrote all her material we were laughing so hard our sides hurt. She's so good at that stuff, um creating characters, and that scene, that scene was priceless, where she's just gonna set the whole place on fire and hit people with the pans in the whole with everybody's helping her. So it just goes to show you how good a cook. She was right to tolerate that. She stays for the whole run of

the show. She's there the whole, Oh, the whole. Yeah. Yeah, it wouldn't have been the same without her and and they, you know, and it was. I always thought it was like Suki got cast as a regular because Alex Borstein could not get out of her contracted with Fox because she was doing that show with Fox. She was doing a sketch comedy show with Fox, Mad TV, I think she was doing mad TV. So Alex was the harp player Drella. But she was supposed to be Suki, right, right,

she was supposed to be Suki. So they just eliminated the Dreller thing, right, or they created either they did that. They created the Dreller so she could do the one off and go back to Man TV, right, And then they cast Suki. So at the time, you know, we knew how good Alex was nailing that role, and we were like, oh god, how are you going to replace that? And then and of course, you know, Melissa McCarthy happens

and you're like, oh, that's how well. And then Alex goes on to win the Emmy for Mazel with Amy Sherman Palladino. So it's like she must like her, she likes working with who she likes working with them. They're very they're very good friends. Yeah, they've they've been known each other a long time. And she's so good on Mrs Mazel. Oh my god. Yeah. In the pilot, you've got two big scenes in the beginning and at the end. I have yet well basically, well, I don't I wouldn't

say they're big, but I think they're. There are lines that I utter that live in the Gilmore sphere. Uh for eternity, Uh read me can kill you enjoy? Which is the last thing I say, or maybe not the last thing, but that that little blur before that little connection with the with the Oxford and no hat on and the little glimmer between Laurela and I, um and then uh calling her an addict. In the first scene, So, and is that the scene where she where Rory says,

are you my new daddy? To the guy? That is that? That is the scene with the guy the guy who has He doesn't look like Milo, but he sort of sounds like Miley has this sort of same rhythms as Milo. I noticed watching Dad Boy. That's that kind of sounds and feels like Milo. He's the one that's flirting with both of them, right. He hits on Laurela and then he hits on Rory, and then Laurela comes up and said, that's my daughter. And he goes, well, I have a friend.

I'm traveling with a friend and creepy guy. Because she's sixteen, He goes, we'll be going I think so drive say, I'm Riley and I'm reading the pop culture references. There's a lot of um in this first episode. So the first one was RuPaul when Laura Lie brings out her large makeup case and Rory says, God, RuPaul does not need this much makeup. And you know, when I was teaching acting rule, RuPaul was a student of mine. Yes,

I did have a private session with rue Paul. A friend of mine said would you help RuPaul with a film audition? And I said, sure, of course, it's what I do and uh, and that's how I got started in the whole teaching acting thing is doing privates for friends. And they said, you're really good at this. And I got a call back and I got the job, and you should think about charging for this, and so I

charged twenty bucks. I didn't want to charge very much, um, but then I got so many people because people charge a hundred fifty an hour. But it was a wonderful session and terrific actor. Terrific actor I was. I was really surprised. I don't know what to expect, but you know.

So this was in Luke Sine actually where Laura Lie says, look, Officer Croup Key Brookie, she's right at that table right there, West Side story, none of us and they all dancing around that went over the twenties, the thirties and the forty. Yeah I'm a bit over forty, just a bit, you know, just a just a drip over forty. So yeah, well I grew up with the West Side Story, so I know Officer. Next we have Rory was looking at her Chilton skirt and she says, I'm going to be in

a Britney Spears video. Totally works. Yeah, works for me? Does that work for the young ones here? It was a really funny line. I laughed out loud. That's when my wife said, will you keep it down up there? And I said, that's funny, I'm going to be in a Britney Spears video. Seem like a show with this many references of the time could seem so dated or like the things could be so sort of like antiquated, if that's the right word. But none of that does

not happen at all. I feel that these writers were geniuses. You know, they hit, they hited out of the park on this one. I mean, that's why I didn't think I would get it. I thought this is too good, too good for me. Um, before we bring in Macy Riley, give us the Macy Gray references in the pilot episode. Yeah, so the first one. Laurel I says to Rory, well you're crabby, and Rory says, I'm sorry I lost my

Macy Gray CD. I need caffeine. Laurel I says, oh, I have your Macy Gracie and pulls the CD out of her purse and then the next one, Macy Gray's I Try plays right after Laura Lee and Rory's fight in Roy's room. Knowledge, amazing knowledge. What a great story she has, What a great story. Um. You know she she had a very austere mother who was a math teacher and you know, drummed this work ethic intour and getting great grades. And she didn't think she had a

great voice at all. She was actually embarrassed us to sing. And you know, she's in l a kicking around and you know, trying to make something happen. And she ends up meeting a guy and they did a demo, and then she started getting some gigs and then one thing led to another. I mean she I think she got signed by Atlantic Records, and they dropped her because the guy who signed her left, and then she went back home.

And then she came back to all that a couple of years later because because because another age, another um, a record guy, agent, whatever, um got in touch with her and said, give it another shot, come on back, let's do it in the rest of history. And she's a she's a good songwriter. She's a good because I you know, I write songs too. I write a lot of songs. I've written thirty songs this winner, and I've recorded three songs and we're gonna, you know, potentially here's

some of these songs. But um, she's a really good songwriter, and she's got a really unique voice. And you know, she opens her mouth and you know that that is so rare, it's really rare, um where it sounds actually great. You want to listen to it. But she's very unique, and she just never realized and she had to be convinced that. You know, and all singers hate their voices. They hate him, Elton John hates his voice, Bono hates

his voice. Everybody, every producer I've ever talked to has said, I've worked with so and so and so and so. They hate their voices. So, you know, how do you feel about yours? I don't care for Well, well, okay, so Macy Gray is coming up in like just a few minutes. Okay, Riley, what care? That's why I don't watch myself. I'm just gonna make a joke about the sausage. But then it just felt weird. It was like how

the sausage is made. It's like I don't know, I I guess twenty years later, Does it get easier to watch it now? Yeah? Yeah, now I can because I can enjoy it. I have time to sort of sit back and really appreciate. I mean, I don't want to be like flirty, but you look good Like right from the start, I'm like, they're cute. Somebody I will out in this one of the definitely. Now I'm finding out that somebody said I'm crushing on Scott watching this? Oh, Becky did it? Yeah? Sure did. I was like, wait,

young Scott is pretty dark cute. Oh, I don't know how it feels a how they just called him young Scott. But Riley, what else? Please refer to me as you please please when reference very young? But but that's okay, open season on that go ahead before Macy Gray gets here, Riley, what else was in the episode that was like pop culture? So we have uh Rory and Laurela were standing outside for their their weekly dinner and she says, do we go in or do we just stand here re enacting

the little match girl? Oh yeah, that didn't I didn't get that, and that's I'm drawing. So I looked at that because I didn't get it either. I guess It's an old story about this little girl who would sell matches outside. Um, but she would look through to see everybody warm while she was out in the cold. But that's the that's why people rewatch the show because there's so many references and they look them up and then they watch him a different level with knowledge. Yes. So

the last one I have is Dean sees Rory. She dropped everything and he mentions Rosemary's baby? Was this one she was talking about cake? Was this one? She's like Ruth, Ruth Gordon with the tanner? Are you standing over me? Like Ruth Gordon with a tennis rooten Mary's babies? And she's like what, he's beautiful and he reads Yeah, at least he watches movies. Um. Yeah, it's a good moment for Dean. And then he had the movie Dick Line too,

another literature. Yeah. But I also like Amy loved the cake, the multiple mentions of cake because she was so nervous talking to round the round they make them really round and then ends with the cake. You know, we're also missing the nick at Night mentioned, which personally me being in my thirties, I loved because that was a huge part of my childhood. Is it even around un Actually don't know, but I mean I definitely got the reference based too, like old timey things right, like a dream

of Genie or stuff like that. Licensing play Yeah, good for them, So, ladies want were your favorite lines from the episode. My favorite was when Rory said Chicago Wendy Oprah. But it's how she said exact little pause and then she kind of swallowed the word. Is really good acting and it really made it funny. I'll the next mine was Rory comes in, you're happy? Did you do something slutty? More likes? I picked the same one. I literally could not stop laughing after she said that, Like that is

so good. The fact that she's saying that to her mom, like it's so good. But what about if you're gonna throw your life away, Like, for God's sakes, make sure he's a motorcycle. I'm saying it wrong though, somebody give the exact quote, but what was that happen? We know, right, if you're gonna write you're gonna throw your life away, at least make sure he is a motorcycle. Sure. My favorite line was in the diner to the creepy guy hitting on her when he realized he wasn't gonna get anywhere.

He goes while I have to go, and she goes so soon he goes. What you guys just kidding. It's like it says everything about that character, like how on top of it she is, how detached she is, how silly she thought the whole thing was, and how much fun that you were going to have with that character. Just based on so soon you can really watch it

two times in a row and here's something you missed. Yeah, like this is not a show that you can be typing emails or like go into the bathroom in the middle of you But that's that's exactly what happens with people. They come home, they turn it on, and they make dinner, they do their evening, and they just have it on. Overall. What do you feel about the pilot now that you've seen it. I am shocked that we didn't get nominated

for Yeah, I'm shocked. It's so good. Well, and I just learned no one really watched it, like, um, Lauren was just doing an interview and you guys are up against friends, So it wasn't like a huge ratings like well it was it was the c w at that time, it wasn't a w B yet. It was Oh no, I'm sorry. It was a w B at the time. So it was a smaller you know, a smaller net

that they were casting out there too. And you know, it's like three or four million, and then we I think we got up to about six million, maybe a little higher than that, but that's that's a fraction of what Friends. The big networks were getting on their head shows like Friends was pulling in what crazy? So did you know that you're always going to come back or did you have like order who me? Personally? I guess both. Well. After I was done the pilot, you know, it was

like see you a nice working with you. I had to drink with Lauren, drink with Keko. It was like nice working good bye bye. Uh. And then they came back with an offer of two shows. We turned it down because my managers like, no, I'm gonna get a six year deal out of this, because they know they want you. They just don't want to spend the money to small network. They don't have the money, so they're just gonna try to, you know, kind of bring in that's mo. Yeah, And I was like, really, it's like

two episodes, Let's go. And I had a buddy. I had a buddy back in New York and who turned down a huge film that turned out to be a huge career making film for a major movie star who became a huge movie star to work with a very prestigious director. And he turned it down because he said, they're not paying me enough. And I said, are you crazy? I said, take the film that will launch your entire career.

And and he never had her much of a career after they came back and said, but I would go on my jobs and I was I'd think about, my god, am I going to be that guy? What am I doing? I gotta call my manager. I call her a few times, said, look, we need to take this. I mean, I don't want to be that guy that, you know, watch somebody else go on to fame and fortune. But um so we said no. And then they came back with four episodes, and she goes, and she called me. She goes. They

came back with four episodes. I got him and I'm like, what are you talking about. You're gonna say no? She goes? You damn right, I'm saying, I said, oh no, no, four episodes please let's do it, and she goes, I know what I'm doing. Let me do this. And to her credit and it's really important to have great management. She called Gavin Palone and she said, give the guy a deal. You know you want him. He was great and he's going to be great in the pilot. The

chemistry is there. Go get him the money. And he did. So. She called me said come to lunch. She had an envelope. I sat down, opened it. It was a six year deal. Whoa, it's a good lunch, good story. Okay, so you kind of knew, all right, I'm I'm Luke. Yeah. Well, I was shocked. It was a guest star roll. It was like a one off thing. I was shocked. And this is before the pilot actually aired, This is before everything aired. Yeah, I was shocked. Well played, manager, lady. Yeah, did you

pay for lunch? I don't think. I think I forgot my wallet that day. No, she she bought. Oh yeah, classy person. Great manager. All right, by we're gonna take a little break. Now, we're gonna come back with Macy Gray, the extraordinary Macy Gray. Yeah, well we're back, everybody with the illustrious uh superstar Grammy winning. Uh, very rare talent. And it's my privilege to introduce my audience to UM, the one and only Macy, Greg Macy, how are you

doing today? Oh good? You know these zoom things are solved me so much fresher. You know, you gotta the background together. They're very, very complicated. You know. Let me just ask you this. Were you aware, Um, when you wrote I Try, Were you aware how good that song was in the impact that it was going to have on You're on on music lovers and on your on

your life. No. I actually argued with that. The head of the label at the time was Polly Anthony, and I had a huge fight with her about releasing that song because I wanted to put out another song and I didn't think I Try was I thought the chorus was too worthy. I thought I had too many words in it and people, Yeah, but what a great hook. I mean, it just just grabs you. It's just so great, what a great song. And and did you know that it was gonna appear the song was gonna play on

Gilmore Girls? Absolutely not. You didn't know. You didn't know, so so the agent was just sort of licensing the song out. Then to so many different sources, and that's just one place where it ended up. Yeah, you know, they do like that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's that's that's great. So tell us a little bit about your background and and how you uh, you know, came to l A and ended up you know, signing a

record deal. And I read a little bit about your story, and my god, it's it's so interesting that you signed with what Atlantic and your guy left and they let you go when you went back home, came back to l A and ran and did what Joe solo and and and did the and did those tracks um and started started getting a lot of gigs. Well, it was I came out here when I was seventeen to l A from from from Ohio and I went to U S.

See that's what brought me out here. And then and then I was I was always I had I had taken piano lessons since I was seven, so, you know, always gravitated towards the musicians for some reason at school. And and the long story short, I ended up in

a jazz band. And then we started playing around town like the hotels like the ramad and that was our biggest our biggest, big time and then uh, then after school, UM, you know, I really got attached to being in the studios and I loved being in bands, and and then I was in a rock band. That's where Joe Solo came and I was in a rock band with him and we played UM all the all the strip and

we were doing the Roxy. One night we had the six o'clock slot at the Roxy and um on a Monday, I think, and there were eight people there and one of them was a guy named Tom Caroline, who had stopped in to see the band after us, because nobody goes to the Roxylock, so UM, some reason he was there earlier. He saw us. He came up to me and he asked me if I would showcase for Atlantic.

He was at Atlantic Records. And then I did a showcase and then they signed me, and then UM, I did an album with Atlantic, but I got pregnant and and then um they dropped me, and then uh, I think, but I don't know, so then about too maybe two three years went by, and then I got another deal at Epic and UM and that that's the UM how Life Is had made the album with and are You Still? Are You? Still touring and still digging uh here in

in Europe. Yeah, I'm obsessed with touring. I'm just last was so devastating for me because I to go anywhere that I didn't even feel like myself, you know, Um, I didn't know what to do with myself when I wasn't like getting ready for a tour, coming over a tour. And so are you ramping up right now? Are you rehearsing and getting the band together and the songs together to to go back out once Covid sort of subsides a little bit. Yeah, we we uh, we just are

in the middle of finishing up a new album. I've actually made. My beneficial were called Macy Gray in the California Jet Club. It's the same guys I've been with about five six years now maybe, And Macy tell us about this foundation that you've been working with that's so close to your heart, So my good. We support families who lose who have lost loved ones to too um police violence, so we UM help with mental health services, funeral costs. I think a lot of people don't realize

the after in math. You know, you you hear about um those stories in the news and the protests, but you know, you don't at the full picture of what goes on after, which is which is people, you know, moms and dads. It just never stopped crying, never, never heal. So our biggest thing is mental health services. Macy great, having yawn, great talking to you, um, the great Macy Gray, Grammy winning singer you know or your love her? Bye bye, okay, gang,

that's it for episode one. Wasn't that fun and fantastic? It isn't this exciting? Um, I hate that it's over, but you know what, Uh, let me thank Macy Gray for joining us. Uh. We had a lot of fun with her in Yannick Truesdale, The Inimitable, Inevitable Yannick Truesdale. Ladies and gentlemen, He's he's uh kicking the pants if there ever was one. Um, so make sure he's tune into episode two. That's next one. We got some great guests coming up for that, Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do.

So anyway, guys, do your homework for next episode, episode two, Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do. Um, we're gonna be recapping Laurelized first day at Chiltern, So go ahead, and watch that episode and then tune in the podcast I Am all In. I'm Scott Patterson. Thanks for joining us. Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email us at gil More at I heart radio dot com. Oh, you get

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