One on One: Keiko Agena (Lane Kim)

resident music lover. Lane has been um is seeing toting what she refers to was the Mojo Bible of music around, aiming to procure every last record in it. Due to her family strict religious adherence, Lane is a master of in juneer, successfully executing various schemes to procure the aforementioned tunes, often with the help of her childhood best friend Rory. Let's get into this. There's, there's a, there's a there's

there's a lot more stuff in here. I could go on talking about your resume forever, but I want to get into the questions. And we'll get into your resume a little later, because this is an impressive list of shows that you've been on. And we'll get into that. But let's start from the beginning. How did you get the role of Lane? Oh, I was just one of the pack. I think when I auditioned for Lane, it

was with a bunch of other people. I think I showed up and they were probably two pages worth of people who have who had signed in at that point and UH and so I just went through the weeding out process until we um, you know, we got to the UH network test. I guess was the last one UM until we shot the pilot. That was my process. I didn't have any special there were no special lines for me. I just kind of went in with the group.

So you went you met casting first audition, then you went to producers second audition, Then it was network, and then it was studio. So it was for total Yeah, was a studio first or network first? I can't remember. I didn't have to go through that. I just got cast as a guest starting pilot, al right, whatever, No, I had to jump through a few hoops and then I had a producers session. I remember that. That was

the first time I had had something like that. With the met up with Amy and maybe Dan was there, someone else was there too, But a little with Amy before the final test. I think where was Gavin blown there? Oh? That's right. Was it Gavin that was there at the and Leslie Leslie Lincoln Gladder? Was she there? She directed the pilot. I don't think she was there at that session. I know Amy was there. Um, yeah, and then we So what do you remember about the actual audition? Do

you think you nailed it? Yeah? Do you remember the audition, like how how it went for you? Did you feel afterwards like you nailed it and you you felt pretty good about it? Or or what? Well? I always say the saving grace was that I had had I was part of a very very tiny, recurring part on Felicity at the same time, and because of that, I was

just distracted enough to not obsess about the audition process. Also, I had never gone through so many auditions, so I didn't even know there was such a thing as a studio test and then network test. I honestly didn't know why I had to keep showing up. So when I showed up at the in the room, I was surprised by the fact that there were, you know, a dozen

people in there. I didn't know why they were, but I just came in and I did the same thing as I did the audition before, and because I was distracted enough, I read the lines very flat and I didn't I don't think I put any extra spin on it or any extra mustard on it, which I think with that this writing, as you might, I don't know

what your opinion is, but is on it. But I feel like, especially at that point that was the writing was good enough that I didn't putting any extra schmeg on it wasn't going to help at any and so I think that's actually was ended up being helpful for

the fans tuning in. Getting a series regular job on a on a comedy or a sitcom or a dramedy or a drama is an excruciatingly long, arduous process because you meet the casting people, and then if you get through that, you meet the produce some of the producers, maybe not all of them. And then if you get past that, and you get in the group that goes to the studio, and then if you and then that gets nervous because it's a big conference room and all these suits come in and there you know, yeah, it's

nerve wracking. And then if you get through that, then you go to the network where it's a bigger conference room or it's even a small theater within that network where they do that kind of thing, and then there might be fifty people there and it's it's very, very difficult to get a job. So um So, when you first got the script, did you ever think the character of Lane will become so loved and so important to the series. I did know that it was a great character.

I mean the fact that she was part of it and you got to see her home life and her mom, and it did seem interesting, and I loved the overall script, that's for sure. When I read that full script, I thought, dang, I hope this gets too series, because even as a fan, I think this is a good show. So that was a special feeling. I didn't think I would get it, So I had a lot of I wasn't attached to it, but I remember thinking, oh, this is this is a great part for someone exactly. Yeah, you know, I'm in

the same way. I never think I'm gonna get anything, and then it's kind of a shock when you when you get it, it's like, wow, how did that happened? It's fun, it's fun, Yeah, it's fun. Um So, What did you like most about Lane and what did you like least about Lane. I liked that she had to care about two things. One she cared deeply about her mother and the other way she would care deeply about

her own obsessions and her own independence. And I like characters that have that want two things that don't easily fit together. That's just fun to play off of, to play those two wants off of each other. Um. The thing that I like least about her is that you know, you have all of this build up in that character, and I don't think that she ever got to fly. You put a so much pressure on this character, which

is fun and what you need in comedy. But I wish that she had had more moments of um fulfillment. I think I think there's a there's there's a lot of frustration I have with that care as a fan too, or and as someone who got to play her, I would say that's the thing I like least about her. Um that there was more potential to flesh out that character and and and you know, with augmented storylines and and and conclusions. Yeah more um Uh. I think she just had a hard life, which is fun for comedy.

But I I don't know, and maybe this wouldn't make a better show, But I think selfishly I wish that she had had maybe more for fulfillment. It's at least with the music side and the independent side of of her because we get to, you know, touch base with her ten years later in the in the what about a spinoff show? You and Let's do that? There's so much more story to help people. Let's uh, let's uh, let's spin her off? Right, And it's like, who's going

to write it? Right? Yeah? I know that that the current writers are kind of busy, I know with what Oh, that's right, the award winning show. So did you? Um, here's a fan question, did you? Did you and Alexis have a great friendship outside the show. I wish we had more of a friendship. That was probably a lot to do with with uh, with me not making as

much of an effort as I should have. But I also think I was so so um, I'm not worried is the wrong word, but you know, they worked so many hours that they're off off set time I thought was so precious to them and I and I didn't want to insert myself into um into their that time of their their lives. I don't know how how you felt about that, but I just that's part of why, especially with Alexis and Lauren, I think that they had such a tough schedule. I mean I couldn't get away

from him. I mean I couldn't get off me. Yeah. So what do you think of the um, Well, I mean, did you click right away with with Alexis because you had so many scenes with her, and and it seemed also effortless and great and that was that real? Was that translated from real life? Well, Alexis is so um, such a wonderful person. And I do think that as soon as I met her as a person, you just

recognize that she's an intelligent, special individual. And I think that there's part of me that felt um protective of her right away as U as a fellow actor and and and and someone that recognizes how how unique of a person that she is. So maybe maybe some of that was something that is just insta shure. And I think that probably shows in how our characters related to each other, that we like and respect each other, um right off the bat. That she was so young, I

mean yes, and she was very youngest. Yeah, yeah, she seemed very vulnerable, and yeah, she like it was all coming at her so quickly, and all the limousines and the speeches and the awards and all the whole thing.

I mean, it was just like wow. You know, she was at n y U Film School, right, she wasn't even in their program, I don't think, and she went in for this thing, and she was modeling in New York and studying and you know, she's a smart kid and or was at the time a smart kid, and u um, I'm sure this just just blew her mind away, all this uh you know, this job and and the time it required and the time it took out of her day, you know, yeah, because I think she wanted

she had other things she wanted to do obviously, right, and this was all just such a surprise, like what's going on? Yeah, And I think it's the kind of thing when you're lead on a television show that um that maybe people do know this or don't know this,

but you don't. They don't have a lot of time for other things period, especially show like this with with where the days are very long, and yeah, there's not a lot of extra time, right, there's there's there's the extra time is filled with photo shoots, with radio and TV promotions and travel to do the same. And yeah, it's it's it's a full time job. I mean, the promotional side of it is a job in and of itself. Uh. And to take that on and then beyond set all

those hours. My god. Um, So, Emily Kuroda, Mrs Kim was your mom. And what did you think of the relationship of Lane and Mrs Kim in comparison to Rory and Laurela. Oh, that's interesting, Well, I think that, um, the Lane Mrs Kim dynamic was not the same as Laura La and Emily, but was more similar to that dynamic than to Laura Lie Rory, where it's um people who have a very different idea of what what's the right way to live a life? Uh? Yeah, so it's pretty as far as it being, it was very opposite

of what Rory had with her mom. It really was, wasn't it. I mean it was, um, I mean, you know, of course you love your mom and your respect your mom, but boy, she uh, she was really putting the handcuffs on you. She even in a town like stars Hollow, that was such a such a happy harmless place to live? What was she so afraid? No? I mean I can understand that if you're living in a big city, right, I mean if you're living in Chicago or New York or l A or San Francisco. But this is stars Hollow.

This is this tiny little hamlet with all these cheery, funny, happy little people and nothing bad happens there. What was your mom's so a little place? Though? We don't Stars Hollow just like I loved it? Oh yeah, no question. Yeah, there's a place where you have unlimited budget for festivals and you only have one stop light. Everybody knows each other,

everybody's smart. That's kind of a lovely lula. Well that's what really made the relationships stick out for me, because I kept saying, what is what is Lane's mom so afraid? Will happen to her daughter? It? Stars Hollow, It stars allow, That's why they're there. Ye all right, here's another fan question. Uh you were um okay, so you recently said in in today's world, Lane Kim would be different. Why is that you used to? I guess you stated this in an interview When a fan wants to know how would

Lane can be different? In today's world or would she and be different in today's world opposed to two thousand, so it's only one years later, would you be different? I think that in some ways, when you're in a small town, because of the access to UH people that have the same opinion that you do, basically different fandoms through the Internet, I think that in some ways, um Lane would have found UM connections to other people. She

would have a secret UM and thriving internet life. I think that it's I think it's more fun that she didn't have that outlet. That she had to kind of live to find a way to live her her fantasy music life in the real world with UM and that was more of a of a challenge UH for her.

But I think that would be a that would be a big difference is that she she would have been able to find connections UM with people that didn't live in stars hollow Um that she had something common with right, I think, yeah, right, the way the Internet and social media has evolved, Yeah, I would if she would have like a fun I wonder if she would have like

a fun um. Oh, this is a kind of a fun thing to do about if she would have a secret UH like Instagram where she did some kind of musical and I could see that I could see her producing these a little music videos um under the guise of another a secret identity. That that would be a fun Lane Kim storyline, and maybe it'll happen, I mean write it. Maybe. Um. Uh, you were the one person that knew all of these gentlemen. So I have to ask you, Okay, are you team Logan, team Jess or

team Dean and tell us why I'm team Jess. I am team Jeff and uh. I say that because I always felt that the main problem with Jess is that he needed to um mature and find some vulnerability. I thought that was his only big and it's a big flaw, but that that was something that would happen over time. That I thought that their chemistry together and the way that they matched intellectually and the way that he really

did their love for each other seems genuine. And I didn't I didn't think that once he grew up that he would ever cheat on Rory or or or that sort of thing. Whereas I always sort of thought, maybe I questioned Logan, well that's a that's the downside of Logan, And then Dean, I just never thought was the right just match for her. Um. So that's why I'm team Jess, because I thought then really they would be right for each other. I feel exactly the same way. Yeah, yeah,

I do. I I felt I always felt that Logan there was just I don't know, you know, I just I didn't see it. I just didn't see it. There was there was a quality there that I just thought

was not gonna work out for her. You know, there was He's hiding something, that character was hiding something, and it just was so apparent to me, and I think, I think that's you know, Matt Sukri adding that layer for the character, which I thought was a brilliant choice because it did make you distrust him a little bit,

and I think you needed to um uh. And and Dean, gosh, you know, I just saw Rory's So I'm watching because I've never seen the episode, so I'm watching me before I do the podcast, right, so I'll watch it the night before and make notes, or the day up and

make notes, and the day we record. And I just saw Rory's two birthday parties before we did the last podcast with George Bell, and I was stunned at how bold Dean was kissing her in Doses market that way, and then coming over Laurel I invited him to movie night, which Rory was horrified by, but she, you know, acquiesced and and and Laura I gave him the speech when Rory excused herself for a minute about don't hurt my kid,

like what she was telling. What she was telling Dean was don't impregnate my daughter the way Christopher did me like, she's not getting on your motorcycle. And he goes, well, I don't have a motorcycle. She and she just looked at him and said she's not getting on your motorcycle, which meant don't knock don't knock her up, you know, because the whole town's watching you, kid. You know, it's not just where, it's the whole town, So don't mess

with us. Um And then he had he had the gumption when she was done to say now is it? Can I talk now? And I was like, wow, he's eighteen, what is our seventeen in the show, Like he's a kid in high school and he just got to talk from a very protective mama bear. And it didn't face him didn't face him at all. So and then he mentions to Rory about, hey, do I when does the guest get to like, if we do this again? Can I pick the movie and have you seen Boogie Nights?

And I'm like, oh no, and Laurel I wasn't around. Um so I'm thinking, wow, this is this is going down the wrong road here, And right away I was just like, I mean, I did a Scott Colin rant. I don't know if I'm going to do a Dean rant, but I think I might be doing one right now. Um So I agree. I totally agree with you. I agree with you on percent um. I think Jessice is perfect for her as he matures, if he matures. Yes, did Lane like Paris? Did Lane like Paris? Did you

interact with Paris? Did you act with her a lot? No? I wish I love. I mean, wow, what a what a power husband actress. I wish there were more scenes or opportunities because she's so great. Mm hmmm. I don't know if she liked Paris. I mean there must have been. You might might not have been really aware of her, but I did. Did Did Rory confide in you at times? And when well? She went off to Yale, and I

don't know. You know how much interaction you guys had once she went off to Yale because I haven't seen the episodes, but I don't remember any of scripts. So yeah, because that's when they or I'm sorry, when she went off to children. Yeah, I feel like the worlds were so separate. Um, that's a good question. I don't know. I don't know if I don't know if she likes I can't believe. This is the first time I've think I've been I've been asked it or have thought about it.

We'll come back to us. Um. Um, So you love Lane love music? Did you share this love of music with your character? Are you a music not No, I have very little music knowledge, although I do. I will say the last piece of music that I really fell in love with was Leonard Cohen's Um album that he came out with just before he passed, which I love even still every time I listened to it. Wanted darker. I would say that that and that seems like something

that Lane would like. I think that's a crossover. But then the other one, you know, that's not a crossover, probably a spin Doctors like I love the Spin Doctors. I do not think that Lane Kim would have that in her list. I think she's be too snooty to admit that she had the Spin Doctors in there. So we all know, say, on the music subject, we all know that Lane played the drums. Did you enjoy learning how to play the drums? Because that was required? I

did love it. Who taught you? Jeanie? I forget her last name, but she was a friend of um Helen and Dave's and who actually played drums in the band that Dave that the actual day Grabowski plays in. She was my drum teacher. So every week we would get together and play for like a couple of hours or something like that. Does she have you listen to certain drummers and to try to play along with them? Oh? I wasn't even at that point yet. I mean she

just did, like very rudimentary thing. Um. Yes, but I have been told that my four on the floor is pretty decent by Sebastian Bachiven. He was like, oh, you know, uh, you're not bad again. Uh So I take that as a god. So listen. I know we're going a little bit out of order with this next question, but you know, the writers had Lane wait to have sex until she was married. How did you feel about this? H As an actor, what a great fun, comedic thing to play that you waited to long to have sex and it

was terrible? Um. But then as a fan, I kind of feel bad for this kind of goes back to the thing I said before, like Lane's life is pretty rough, Like she waited all this time, and the first time that she had sex, it's uh terrible, and she gets pregnant with twins? Are we assume that it happened right away? So I don't I don't know. It's mixed. What is your favorite memory of kil More girls? There's just too many, right,

They're just flooding in. Yeah, I mean, I guess one of the one of my favorite ones is getting to film with Emily Corona on the time where things all really start to fall apart, where Lane gets kicked out of the house. That was really fun. I think I'm glad I got to stay with the character long enough.

Where the you you could say that the Rory Lane um dynamic was the biggest one in Lane's life, but I but I would even venture to say that it was her and her mom and so to stay with a relationship long enough to that that core relationship in her life has a chance to change is interesting. So I think I was glad that I got to spend enough time with that relationship to see a change. You know, I I want to ask my own question here, what

what was Emily Corona like to work with? I mean, she was so wonderful you guys had such a great dynamic and the comedy was flying off you too? What what was she like? She is is fantastic as an actress, and she's probably the person that I know and spend time with the most off you know offset um. So I've seen her work in a lot of different ways,

and she's fantastic. I mean, the emotional depth of Emily is incredible, and she she's also someone that's very um different from her character and it's obviously she's able to access that that side of it. But you know, something that people wouldn't necessarily know about Emily is like what a tech head Emily is? You know, she is very different than um then I think you would think of Mrs Kim and and so I I just love everything that she brought and I do. I would say that

as soon as that was. One of the things I remember from the pilot is that I was a little worried about who they might have cast as my mom. I just knew that was going to be such an important role in in the show. And when I showed up to set and when I saw Emily and when you did that first take, I just there was so much joy in my heart because I was like, ah, they got it right, Like this actress is exactly what I want for this character, and this is going to be so much fun to playoff of her. It was.

It was really it was a sense of relief, right, That's how I felt when I first started with Lauren and the very first diner scene up in Toronto was I did have joy in my heart as well. I said, Wow, this is going to be great because she was so good and it was just so you know, it wasn't I'm not going to say it was easy for because you know, acting is hard, but it seemed easy for her, and it was just this is going to be great. Yeah, when did you know that? When did you know that

it was? When did you get the feeling that, oh, this is this is going to go to series and this is people are going to really fall in love with it. Did you have that a moment like when I read the script right from the script, right from

the get go? Yeah, yeah. And then I think the other mom was when I got on the set the first time up in Toronto at Luke's Diner and I saw Lauren and Alexis rehearsing and they were sitting down at a table in Luke's Diner and they were rehearsing a scene and I thought, wow, look at that chemistry. And that's the other aha moment. I was like, this is gonna go. Yeah, you know, this will get picked up. And I remember having the conversation with Lauren at Amy's

first Christmas party at her house. Uh, like, you know, we were outside and like, how long you think it's going to go? And she said a couple of years and I said five years, and you know, we just kind of knew, you know, it was gonna go. And you were one of the first people I met when

I went up there. Well, when I came from the hotel in my jogging suit because the airline had lost my luggage, and I went to that five star French restaurant and they let me in and there you were, and you and Lauren were there that you were the first and we sat in the in the bar and had a drink and got to know each other. You were the first people I met. Isn't that funny? Timothy Hutton was in the corner and I thought he was part of the show, and said, what's Timothy Hutton doing here?

Is he part of the show? Because everybody was staying at that hotel. Everybody, all the actors in town doing film and TV projects stay at that hotel, so that restaurant was very popular. How different would it have been if we we had shot the show in Toronto? Do you think, Oh, that's a good question. Um, I mean, I think it would have been great regardless. But that was such a tough show to schedule. Yeah, it's just hard to imagine being in a And I did a

series in in Canada, UH in Vancouver. Right after UH Gilmore, I went and did Aliens in America up in Vancouver. And it's tough to be away from home like that. And we only did a year and it was a great show and great writing and great actors and the whole thing. But it's tough. It's really hard and some people and the cast were really struggling with being away from home and it was really hard for them. And uh, I yeah, it's it's hard, you know, it's hard. I'm

I'm glad they decided. But I remember they took a vote. They asked everybody, you know, what do you want to do, and everybody said, l a not to knock Toronto. It's a great city. It's one of the great cities of the world. But I don't think anybody wanted to be away from home because we knew it was going to be a five at least a five year commitment. Yeah, and yeah, so it's amazing, Uh what people do for their craft and to leave their home for five years

and you know, but and people do it. They relocate and people relocate to South Africa to do a series and it's just like wow. Yeah. Anyway, Um, what was your favorite episode? Oh that's hard to say. I mean, even speaking about, uh, the pilot. I think there's something sweet about the pilot. When I'm asked about what my favorite episode does, I think about the beginning and the ends. And I don't know if that's because of just looking back and appreciating the whole the whole thing of it.

But um, you know, getting to shoot, just the newness of of of of shooting a pilot and all of those mistakes I made also, like I remember, I remember mistakes really well. Here's a silly thing like, um, I think this was in the pilot. In any case, it was sometime early on. It might not have been the pilot, but it was sometime early on where I didn't I

didn't even understand. Sorry, I shouldn't admit this, but you know, it was a way back when I didn't even understand like all of the parts that you need to shoot a scene. So I would come and I remember there was this big scene and we were shooting the Master, and we shot the Master, and I thought that I was done. And I thought, oh, when when you're done, you just go back to your trailer. And I just

took it upon myself to walk away from set. And I do remember thinking that I remember hearing that they couldn't find me, you know, like they were trying to shoot the rest of the scene. I thought I was done, um, and there, uh no, we have to go find her on the Warner Brothers lot. And so so then I learned, oh no, this no, this is gonna take a while. I need to do this whole process. It's not just goodness,

Oh my goodness, where's Lane exactly? You know, I made a confession on this on this podcast when we started, I did borrow a few things. Borrow, I'll use that term borrow from the set. Did you borrow anything from the set the way I did? Um? There was I there was some and it was not yeah, it was

my glasses from the It was from the uh. Well, because here was the thing, in my defense, when we finished the first the actual series, we didn't know we were coming back or not, and those were my actual glasses and they and so those are lost to wherever the world those are, and so when we came back, I really wanted to have my character glasses from the revival, and so I kind of I did what about what did you? What did you borrow? Perfectly understandable. Nobody can

fault here for that. The question isn't what what did I borrow? It's what didn't? Good Lord, I have a whole treasure trove of things, but they were being offered to me as it as it wound down, and that's how I knew there was a good chance that we weren't coming back. I didn't know. Well I didn't either, but it's like, why, why, why why is the props department saying you know? I mean, were they privy to

the negotiations? I guess because because of the first to know, because the construction crews the first to know, right because they got to tear it down and build something. So I something comes on their schedule, like, hey, they're not coming back, and this other show is coming in, and we got a timeline here to tear this stuff down and build a new sets, because that's what takes a lot of time is building those sets. So they know

right away. So I guess they got an alert or they had they had prior knowledge, and I just and then I was up in Toronto actually making a film, and when I got the word from my manager saying this show has been canceled, I was like, well, I kind of it was shocking, but I kind of knew it already because because I was being offered stuff from I got the whole diner because you can film Gilmore

Girls because you have so many props of the show. Yeah, I tried to get on the you know, the the tour route, Come on in, you know five bucks you can go, Luke stannerd I gotta set up in my living room. So okay, So here's a Shawn Gun question. He says he keeps in contact with you the most. H So who do who do you keep in contact the most? Within the cast? Is there somebody are you cheating on? Shawn Gun? Alright, Sean Gun your one and

only or more of a group thing? Because Sean and John Cabrera know each other very right, right, So I was actually over at John's house and Sean was there too with his with his wife Toosh. So yes, those between um Sean and John who know each other, Um and I've been to both of their weddings since the show has ended. And then Emily Coroda would probably be the groups of people. Okay, So we have a segment now called rapid Fire. Are you ready to answer questions

thrown at you quickly? Yes, don't be scared? All right, you're ready? Here we go. How do you take your coffee black? Why don't? Why am I lying already with with oat milk? It's this rapid fire is very revealing with oat milk? Okay, why did you? Why did you? I don't know already. Next, well, we already know, we already, you already answered this question. We already know your team,

just so we don't have to ask it. But I'm gonna ask you anywhere your team logan team just our team, team team, who's the daddy uh um logan best memory of Gilmore girls. We already asked this, but go ahead of answer. Um the pilot or um walking around before we filmed the wedding sequence and looking at how beautiful they had made the set. That was beautiful from from the Netflix reboot, right, Yes, yeah, that was that was really pretty. That was the most photographed. I mean, everybody

was tell the iPhones out photographing the heck out of that. Yeah. I have tons of pictures from that. I even have like slow mo fancy iPhone edited photos of Lauren when the snow was falling on her after the wedding. Oh yeah, I told her to walk down the stairs. Amy said, come on down the stairs, and I'm like wondering, why the hell am I not in this shot? So I whipped up my iPhone and I started taking pictures and filming it. And she said you can't do that, and

I said, yeah, watch me watch. I stole a few of those. I gave him away. But give for you, give for you. Um, what show are you you show your binge watching right now? Um? What did I just? Oh? I rewatched Atlanta and my husband is going nuts. Sports such a good show, alright, cast? Remember you texted most recently John Cabrera. Okay, so let's go. So that's it for Rapid Fire. You did really well. You only lied once. People usually lie two or three times. We usually get

people right away. We got your right away. You said black, but you take it with oat milk. Don't don't be bothered by this. Everybody does it. So let's talk about So listen. You were also on Who Lose the First? And you join the cast of Prodigal Son, which which God canceled. But everybody should watch that show. What a fantastic show. Tell us tell us a little bit about

that show. What was that? Like? I loved it? It was a really um special show about a a serial killer and the son who loves him but is a a profiler, grows up to be a profiler. And I get to play a quirky or got to play a quirky medical examiner who is so intelligent about her job, but very socially awkward and like like we were talking about Lane up having two things that don't mesh well together. I love I love that she was so confident in one area of her life and so deficient in another

air of her life. UM. So right off the bat when I read that uh script, I got excited about getting a chance to do that. Right. Um did you get to I didn't. I don't really watch television, um, other than the financial channels. Uh, but I love Michael Shannon. I just love his work. Uh. He was brilliant, Frost Nixon. He was just anything the guy does. Uh. Did you get to work with him a lot? You know? That was one of the Uh one of my favorite moments on Prodigal Son is that we had once one um

seen together where our characters meet. And what was fun about that is that on paper, um, it was was a great scene written, but because of who he is when I when I showed up and we started to rehearse and kind of discover on the day, what happened is, um, my characters are enamored with him, and I started to giggle and laugh about a joke. Adres is not necessarily funny, but she thinks she's funny sometimes, and so she sort of makes a joke that I start giggling at. During

rehearsal his character, it finds it funny as well. By the time we get to what that moment is and what what is printed and exists as that scene, we're full on belly laughing at each other during that scene. And that's just something that's not it wasn't written that

we laugh. We share a laugh together. But because of because he's the kind of actor that is willing to go down whatever road is, uh is, it shows up on the day I got to walk down a little path with him, and so he's the kind of person that you would love to have other scenes with because you're you're going to be surprised by whatever he brings to it. Yeah, which is which is a really uh um excellent point you make about the acting process is

to trust what you have on the day. If you've done the work, if you're invested in the character, something arrives. It's supposed to arrive. So don't ignore it because that's the gift. That's what all your work and all your research is bringing forth. So don't you know, and then you sometimes get a director like don't do that and say why it's it's here, Yeah, this is this is what I'm going with and don't you know, don't rain on my parade. Yeah yeah, yeah, And and it is

amazing that. Uh. Sometimes you'll you'll get an actor that allows all that, like you know, the head of the cast and the big star and the whole thing, and they love that and that's why they're in that position because they know that that's the gold. UM. Loved catching up. Love to have you back on. We have a lot more to talk about and uh and really, I mean, Keiko is truly one of the unsung, underappreciated actors working in the business right now, um, and has been working

in the business for a long time. UM. And all you have to do is, you know, the thing that impressed me most about your skills as an actress was that drunk scene you played at that that party. And I forget what episode it was, but I saw a clip of it and I and I was just amazed at how you just nailed that and the comedy coming out of that. I forget what the episode was, and I, like I said, I didn't see the episode, but I did see a clip I so I saw it in

you know where I saw it. I saw it on the A d R stage when I had the loop lines and that was a couple of scenes. And the guy that was in there that ran the A d R stage, he said, you got to see the scene at Keiko. I mean, he said, it's just freaking amazing. And I said, yeah, let me say it and he played it and I was like, wow, you know, so you know what you're doing. You're one of the best out there. I wish you all the best and I

hope you come back. Um and go go pick up her book called No Mistakes, and it is a an artist workbook because she knows what she's doing on a set. She knows she knows the acting game, and she knows the craft and it's a skill set and Keikos get the skills. Um. So if you're feeling down and you're frustrated in your life or your career and you're an actor, just work on your skills. Just keep working to acquire skills, because it's a daily commitment to improving those skills, little

by little by little, that's all it is. It's nothing to get down about and when you get the skills honed, when they're ready and you can display them, you will get work. It's as simple as that. So keep working. Thanks for coming on, Keiko and uh being an inspiration to everybody, and we'll talk soon. Okay, awesome, thanky, all right, take care, all right, bye, got dot ja ja Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and Emailie at Gilmore at I heart

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