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It's a Big Fat Happy Sunshine Day for Me (S3 E5, “Eight O’Clock at The Oasis”)

May 09, 202256 min
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Jess comes to Rory's rescue and fixes the sprinklers turning them off only to turn them right back on again to really help Rory.  Did you see the same deeper meaning in this gesture that we did?
 
Hello, Jon Hamm...
Should Lorelai have gone to see David Bowie even if Peyton was beyond boring??!!
 
And, there is so much to discuss about Dwight.

Although we enjoyed this episode, Scott is deeply disappointed about one scene and shares with you how upset he is watching it back.  He wants to hear your thoughts and feedback.  

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I am all in, kiss you, I am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, Hey Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast our Heart Radio one of them production. What the heck was that was somebody slamming a fist down? How was your knee? Okay, okay, totally, I'm totally good. Thank you for you're so excited that we're starting the episode that you just jumped and hit your name, so excited about John Hamm that iamed my

leg into the desk. Um, well, we're gonna get into that, so just try to contain yourself. Let me get through this and then I apologize to everyone's ears. That's quite It's like, it was quite shocking. Um, but you know what they say in show business, the show must go on. So I didn't stop up. No, you did great. Um. Anyway, this wasn't being a good I wasn't being a good background actor. You are not. No, You're You're a frontline personality. You're not a background person I want to keep practicing

our background skills. But we can do that. We can do that. You just have to stop moving your mouth so much. You can't exaggerate the movements anyway, Season three, episode five, eight o'clock at the Oasis and riff on that that that song was so calming. That was a big hit Maria Muldour Midnight at the Oasis anyway. Um, so what do you guys think? I thought this was a delightful, delightful episode. I thought it had again the

perfect balance. And I've never seen an episode where they used to support guest stars John him and then the guy that played the neighbor so well tied the whole episode in together. We only saw John Hamm once, but boy did he reverberate through the entire song twice because he came to the door. He came to the door, correct, I sit corrected, Um, but still, I mean that really set the tone for this entire episode, in every single scene.

So uh. And also I loved how the neighbor, the wacky neighbor, came over and asking Lord Dwight right, how how that ended up being used to get Jess and Rory together? And I agree with you in a really charming scene. Yes, I so agree with you. It was like we had to go through all this with the wacky neighbor to get the perfect Jess and Rory moment which I think had really deep, deep meaning. Didn't but didn't see that coming? Right, I have a very important

question to start off with. Should we hit him with a synopsis? First? Danielle take it away? And here we are with Tara s Danielle Romo ams Sugarman. Forgive me for not introducing the ball club, but there they are and all their glory. Danielle take it away alright? Season three, episode five, eight o'clock at the Oasis, and the synopsis of this episode is Lorle see is something she likes at an auction a man dundun. Only Emily knows his identity. Should Laura Lee break her stay out of my love

life role? Just once? But when she does, she realizes he's not quite what she anticipated. Plus, Loria La agrees to agrees to do a favor for an annoying neighbor, which also brings Rory and Jess together. Danielle, what that was our most professional synopsis reading? I think of won a full year. Are we are we getting good at this? Are we getting good at this? I don't know. That was amazing. That was like you nailed that. Okay is ready for the most Maybe the third most important question

of this episode. Go ahead, I'm ready for anything. I want all three of you to answer this. Is this episode more enjoyable now because we know it's Jon Hamm, because it's John Hamm now rather than just unknown guy back? Then? I'm going to say no, I don't think it matters.

I think I think the episode stands alone. It doesn't matter what happened to John Hammer or anybody in the cast it I mean, yeah, I mean it makes it a little bit intriguing to see him a younger version of Jon Hammon, but it really, you know, the episode really holds up. Um, it could have been anybody, right, I'm gonna hold my tongue. I feel like this is my opinion, but it was probably one of the more boring episodes for me, except for the scene with Jess

and Rory. But other than that, I was can we get the show on the road? Oh no, no, no. I love this episode. But to answer your question, Amy, I don't think I can quite comment because I didn't see it pre John Hamm's start. But I did love it now. I thought I was like, oh, John Hamm, I loved it. Yeah, And I like Peyton more because it's John Hamm like even though Lourel is like this

dude is so boring. I'm like, but it's John Hamm Like, I don't know if you guys know this, but John Hamm is in top gun like John Hamm is mad men like so to me, I'm like, Laurel I is going out with God right now, like John Hamm is so hot. And I don't want to say it, but if you ladies guys listening, there's a how do I say this? There's a rumor about John Hamm that's been going. This is a family show, Amy, Sugarman. He must move forward, Scott,

don't let Amy continue with that. We're gonna We're gonna go to a commercial hair get the hook out place. I love how we all knew would exactly so So anyway, um, I think Laurel I is a liar in this episode in one respect, absolute liar. She is not a fan of Bowie, not a real fan of Bowie, because if she was a real fan of Bowie, nothing could have kept her away from that concert. No, you would take

those free to take the free ticket? Who cares? If the guy's an adult, right, he's boring and self obsessed and creepy narcissist guy, right, do go with him? Right? Like, aren't we to assume remember to curry favor with her mother? So that doesn't her relationship with the who was it? I don't care what concert is. If the guy is so bad, I can't go. It's bowie watch the show. You don't have to. You don't have to even acknowledge. I mean, I've been the concerts before with with people

that I didn't acknowledge. To dance real close, and like dance, dance real close. Put his arm on her. She just moves. She can just move away, old hands, Damn, she can just she could relocate to a different part of the the arena and to get away from you could say, listen, I need to go to the ladies room. I'll be right back, and then just enjoy like a half hour. Come back and say, you can't believe how long the line was. I'm gonna go get a hot dog. I'll

be right back. You want something, and then go away for an hour, so you can't believe how line along the line was. Let's get out of here. The show's over, okay, And so she enjoyed it. Maybe she meets another gun what did he drive at Jaguar? She could have got a ride at home, and it's Jaguar. I don't think we are choice of car for him. I would have gone porch Jaguar for like a cool dude. Am I getting it wrong? He drove a Jaguar, right, talked about it all night. Uh yeah, I think he was going

for the comfort. Do you think Jaguars are cool for like a forty year old dude? I don't. I wouldn't buy one, but you know, right, that's like, like, what did you guys think of Peyton? I thought he started out really well. I mean it was it was witty, banter, and she was intrigued and hey, I'm you know, I'm

no Einstein and took off. I mean it's perfect. I was surprised, Yeah, I was surprising he was so boring because the wine exchange was so right good, although it was brief and barely any talking, right, it wasn't consistent with what was established because he was witty, and he was clever, and he was open, and he seemed intelligent and able to converse, you know, on an adult level instead of sitting there and talking about his boring toys.

You know, right, some girls gonna really like Peytron, I think, though I do. Yeah, yeah, there's there's So what do you make of the fact there's a crooked lid? This is so true, So go deeper into it, like Emily's involvement and Rory's involvement and Richard's involvement, and then the train wreck when she didn't like him, and just break it all down. Interesting, Interesting that you know, Laurela didn't see how it was going to adversely affect Emily's relationship

with her friend who's Peyton's mother. And I loved the Richard scene. And I know we're bouncing around a little bit, but I loved when Richard Richard called from his office and said that he was golfing with Peyton's dad and that they would discuss and how to sort of rectify the situation and we'll call you back like it was a given, like like like Laurel, I knew what the hell he was even talking about, and that you'll issue

an apology. And I just love that conversation because it showed what a great husband Richard is defending his wife and say and listen, yes, it's insane, Laureli. The whole thing is insane. That's Emily's world, and I respect it, and she will get her first. She will be served tea first. That is her world her. If her world

has disrupted, my world becomes disrupted. I don't want I don't want to see the best move for Richard was to say, I agree, it's insane, because that's pretty much what Laura I needed, because then she came around and she said, okay, like, if you need me to go out with this guy to the concert, I will. And I think it was because Richard's like, I know it's ridiculous, but like, we got it. This is what she cares about,

and I care about her. So it was like, but loral line is completely justified and being defensive there and just being you know, acting in it. I don't think she thought she was acting in a selfish way because you know, Richard and Emily are always telling her what a screw up she is, right, so this time it's like, God, they're invading my private space here. Didn't work out? Can't

they just get over it? She wasn't seeing the ramifications because she couldn't see them because you know, her knee jerk is to just good God, these people are at me again. I can't do anything right there. And she's also so certain that Peyton also had a terrible time, like she's like, you, guys, this guy is not into me either, which we don't know that that is not not true because Peyton is probably like, I don't want

to go to the concert with this girl either. But I like the episode because it showed me one of the rare times where they're they're almost functioning as a as a family, you know, they're sort of all pulling together, and I like that part of it. I I it was it was more positive for me to see, uh, Emily and Laura I kind of get along and and did you see how um hopeful and energetic Emily was when Laura I came over in the afternoon and she wanted Emily wanted to know all about the date and

tell me about the date. How did it go? And you know, so that that was Emily and her element and being hopeful that Laurel I had finally found a guy that she can you know, be proud that Emily can be proud of like this relationship could work because he's of you know, the man are born and it's all going to work out and we can, you know,

we can. We can live our snooty little lives. I always want to like disagree with you when you say that, but like this episode proved it, Like they do want her with the son of their friends, you know what I mean, Like they love that. Do you also think that the auction purposely switched up the lamps or do you think it was Emily? Because I think it was Emily. Oh, talk to us about that, because why else would Uraa come to Emily's house in the middle of the week

for no reason? So she I was thinking, like Emily wanted to get information because if she calls Laura la at work, Laurel I is not gonna want to talk to her. Solid I'm gonna give you a probably correct And that never occurred to me. Yeah, because she never wants to talk whenever Emily calls and she's at work, she just never wants to talk to her and she won't give her the time of day. So how else will she reel her in except to physically come to her house to pick up the lamp that she bought.

She wanted to have there. She wanted to have some girl time with her daughter and talk about the guy and how you know that she was excited for that. It was like Emily really getting a real shot of life, Like, hey, this is how found that I can be like a mom again to Laurela and this is I love the dinner scene of the awkwardness or Laurel. I have to sort of like that was the best dinner scene. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how they're going to tell that one because everybody was great. IM so happy to

see Richard. I can't remember if we've seen him for a minute because they're so good at like it's been a while, but Rory was great in that. Yeah, mom saw something she thought looked pretty good at the auction, just having fun with her, making her sweat. And then I thought John Hamm was still charming when he came

to the door. That's why I was so shocked he was boring because when he came to the door, Rory was super cool with him and he was so chill, like you look wonderful, like he was so smooth John ham I liked his vibe. I thought he was cool. Yeah. I wish we got like a piece of the date, like just a little glimpse. Yeah, I agree. I agree, but I guess they didn't need it, but they it's a scene that I we should have seen it go south. We didn't need it. See that's the thing about. Maybe

they shot it and they realized they didn't need it. Now, it would have been so entertaining to watch that miserable day. All right, so let's go let's go back to the beginning, because I want to talk about like what is going on at luke S Diner with like every family in town, all the babies, so many brunch Like what's happening? I was like, is there a farmer's market and this is where they come out? Like what's go? Yeah, I don't think that scene aged well at all. Literally wrote that

down down. I don't know how much I've actually, you know, not to pat myself on the back, but I've been in situations in public where a woman is breastfeeding and somebody says something and I walk over that person and say, shut your mouth. She has everything to do that. That's a child she's feeding, and you have no right to intervene and and traumatize her or her baby. Go away, And yeah, you're right. It was uncomfortable. It really was uncomfortable to watch. I wonder if it was then too.

I was ashamed of Luke. I was disappointed in Luke, you know, but it's he's such a conundrum. It wasn't so bad, but it was. It was a little awkward. It's kind of bad. It was pretty bad. Yeah, I agree the line it wasn't good to make me like hate. I didn't hate Luke. Sorry, Danielle, go ahead, no, I mean, we don't need to rehash it. But he says something like shouldn't they be in the barn or a cave? And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm surprised they

wrote that for such a progressive show. It always was ahead of its time, and it's such a female empowered show that it's interesting they even bothered with the scene because the seat, or with that portion of the scene, because the scene was funny enough with Luke being irritated about sticky choo choo trains and sticky hands and the kid aspect of it, and that that tracks with Luke. He would be like, oh, these kids in here, you know what I mean. So I don't know why they

added that part. It was not necessary. Yeah, it was. He just sounded like a neanderthal, and I was, I'm so ashamed. Well, you didn't write it. I don't think I protested. Yeah, well, I mean, but was also twenty years ago, you know, Like now it's a lot more like I have to throw a flag on that, because twenty years ago it was totally find a breastfeed. Why are people bothered by it? I don't understand this. This is this is a woman giving her baby life, literally

feeding her child. Why does it? Jess was Jess, why do people feel violated by this? Why this is not this is a beautiful moment between a woman. It's probably the most beautiful tender moment between a woman and her and her baby. And how is how can you see that in any other light than that? I don't get it. I mean I don't get think about this. Lucy and Ricky slept in separate beds, Like there's all kinds of

like weird things on television or in society. It's like, I just am surprised they wrote it in That's the part that kind of befuddled me, Like that was weird.

Definitely a low point for the character beingesting to talk to the writer who wrote this episode, it was Amy and and I think one other person, just Tanner, that would be interesting and otherwise to me, a perfect episode, you know, other the rest of you The rest of the scene was cool, Like the rest of the scene was cool that they were at the counter and there's all these families in there and it's a popular joint with and and it was irritating Luke. That was fine.

I just don't know why they added these about the rest feeding. You know, I think Daniel makes a good point. It was twenty years ago. I think we're judging it through this prism of sort of today, and it's it's just not applicable back then, and people are just far more sensitive about it now, or maybe even a little bit more evolved in some sense that where it's more acceptable. But yeah, I mean I still think it was fine

then to to do. I don't know I wrote, oh boy, but but I do remember back then this this was a news item when people there were news arc there were headlines that is correct that people are getting offended by this and this is becoming a thing, and it's like, how is this even a story? Why is this a problem for people? You know, I thought a low point for the character, But they I'm happy at least we had the comical relief of just walking out seeing all

the babies and walking right back. But I don't think his reaction was was the babies. I thought it was the breastfeeding. It repulsed him and he went back upstairs. So I think, again here a low point for his character. Um most is probably extreme. I thought he was sort of a teenagery about it. I don't know, do we chuck it up to it is what it is like? I don't know, I don't know. I have a problem with it. But what are you going to? Good? I think that's good you do, because we all were cringing

at it. So it's like I think, I think the thing we don't know is why bother putting it in? And are we watching it with clearer eyes now than we would have then? And it's I don't I can't even remember how I felt about I get why they want to give every character. You know, every character needs to have flaws. Let's just put it that way, makes some human right, But that is such a for me. That's a lack of humanity. That's taking humanity away from

a character. And it doesn't it doesn't track with Luke, that's not that's that was my thing on it, being annoyed by the sticky hands tracks, being annoyed that this choo choo train never works and they always get out the chootoo train and move of onto the that tracks, like and the noise and that. But I don't think Luke would be irritated by someone breastfeeding. That's not something that would. He's a he's a naturalist. He is you know right, he's a tree hugger. He's this, he's that.

I wouldn't say he's hippie, but he's no. I agree that it should say no cell phones, no breastfeeding. Yes, like that is who he is. I thought it was weird. I don't know why they put it in. I'm I'm actually looking forward to uh. I will read the emails for this one, all of them, you know, because this is this is this is a major this is kind of a major deal here. What would be interesting is if somebody knows. I mean, we should try and ask the writer. Let's try to track him down to see

why they put it in. You know. Look, sometimes also people mess up and they think something's gonna land well and it do you what amazed me. How must a woman feel who's breastfeeding her baby in public because her baby is crying and needs to be fed, And how must she feel when she's attacked for that act, and how much fear she's experiencing and she stays calm. You know, all of that is absorbed by her. It's absorbed by her little baby, all of that stuff. I mean, it's

it's a big deal. I'm I feel a little bit ashamed to be a part of that. And I should have spoken up. I should have spoken up and said I'm not saying this. I should have said, I am not saying this. This is not funny, this is something I support. I don't believe this. I don't care if you want to give the character flaws. I should have. I should have opened my mouth, and I didn't. And I think it's all because we felt, like, you know, we were also worshipful of Amy and so grateful that

she had given us these jobs. And no, I mean, we earned the jobs. But I mean, you know, at the end of the day, it's up trust the writers. But trust the writers. I I get that. I thought that was just a very ugly moment for that character, and I'm really ashay. I'm kind of ashamed to be a part of that moment. So it was very uncomfortable to watch. I was very disappointed in that character. I think you've said it perfectly. I don't know what more today you could do. And I wish we knew then

what we know now. And I don't know, you know, like I don't it takes I don't know. I don't know how hard it would have been to say, like, hey, this guy shouldn't say this. I think it's an interesting conversation and for an actor, I think that's hard to say guys shouldn't say this. Yeah, well moving on otherwise. Yeah, I don't mean to make light of it by saying like and moving on. I just I think we've discussed it.

I've expressed how I feel about it. Um, it would be interesting to get one of the writers on to talk about it a little bit, you know, how they were, what were they think. I know people watching it now will will cringe like we did. But I would love to hear from somebody who remembers watching it then. If it was like cringe e, then it had to have been I don't think twenty years made that big of

a difference. I don't think there's anything and I'll end with this statement, I don't think there's anything more cowardly, um and inappropriate and illegal. I think it should be illegal. I think people that hassle women who are breastfeeding their babies should be arrested and prosecuted. I do how dare anybody anybody interrupt or apply any negativity or aim any negativity at a woman, uh, for any reason whatsoever, but especially in such a tender, beautiful moment like that. Anyway,

That's just how I feel about. I get very protected, very very I think you said it great. Yeah. I think a totally normal transition would be to Michelle's love of auctions. Hey, Michelle, you want to go to auction? He got his the pitch of his voice shot up, he got squeaking, and then I love when he said, if your mother's involved, it will be impact of all.

I was like, ah, so that was cute. And I was actually excited for the auction because I knew Michelle was going to be there, so it made me that much more excited for when we got to the auction. So he must really love auctions if he wanted to do all that stuff that Laurel I listed. I was like, really, you're gonna do all that for an option that was just like four major things. Yeah, that's okay. Now, forgive me if I'm wrong, But was this the first time

we've seen pizza Pizza? Like, was this the first time we've seen the pizza pizza? That they've gone to Pizza Pizza and that they got the free cheesy bread and they were all bent out of shape Laurela, I was that garlic was extra. Now I don't recall if we've seen pizza Pizza before. Um, don't recall it at all. Pizza Pizza, Yeah, neither, But the cheese bread sounded good. And I think it's our first mention of Beanie Morrison because this dude Dwight has moved into Beanie Morrison's old place.

I don't know how Laurela eats that way. It looks that good. That's like the mystery of the whole show because the opening scene she's walking, they're they're doing that walk and talk with with her daughter and walking up to Lucy and she's looking so good. Right, the red pants were back, so that's a repeat where she's worn those red pants before. I loved him the last time. They brought him out again, and she loves it. Not a full choker necklace, but a short necklace. She looks.

And all they do is stuff themselves with pizza and junk food. I don't see her exercise, but she's I guess she's working at the end. She's moving around, climbing stairs, she's running around fast. Metabolism exactly. She's still young, right, so they thirty two years old? Yeah, so what do y'all think of Dwight? My god? I have so much, so much to say about Dwight. Let loose lady go. The shirt was one thing, but really what had me just crack up was the inside of his house. One.

I have a bone to pick with dwighte he leaves his lights, his lights on when he's out on vacation. You noticed all those lights were on a full home, by the way, beautiful. The outside looks spectacular, but the inside look right. The tiki lounge, all the tiki lounge, and so he just moved in. How does he have so much stuff already? And all those board games? Yeah, my god? And how does he have that much stuff? If the wife like if he kind of went in the dark of night, Like, how do you get all

his stuff out? Or was that all news stuff? You know? I don't know, but I'll tell you. You remember the wife on the answering machine. Yes, my god, my research team is cracked. The mystery. Who that was? You know who that was? Okay, well make it a game, make it a game. Don't tell us. Is it a famous person someone on the show? Somebody who was on the show already or later? No, actually, somebody who never appeared on the show. Who but a famous actress that we've

heard of. Yes, absolutely, big actress movie, movie or TV TV. Oh my god, this is a much decorated Emmy Award winning actress. I need to hear the voice again. I don't want to, like, bring this one of the finest comedic actresses of our time. Don't not tell me, Do not tell me. I need to. I'm trying to pull it up on YouTube. Hi, it's Doris was asleep when you stut like that, sniffling off cocon samples your parents? Just topic? Are you really thought you get away from me?

From me? I would have found you sooner, but now have I found you? Like to say, is this I want you down to the end of the Okay, Tara, do you have a guess who that was? I have no idea, Daniel, any idea, any idea. I'm struggling so hard with this. Can you give me a show? I need to harp on this. I keep harping on this same Alex Borson, Thank you very much. Nice. That's a real good quip. I said that, and then I thought, oh,

that's random, because but well done, Alex Borstein. So she was the for people that don't know, she played the harp and then she's like the lead on Basil. She she was the original Drella. She was Drella, well not the original, the only Drella in the pilot episode, and then she couldn't get out of In Living Color was not color a family guy. Sorry sorry, sorry, sorry family Guy. It was j Lo And in Living Color she also was the teacher. She was also the teacher in the

Lizzie McGuire movie. That's how I knew her, really, yep, so a couple of quick questions. The clock, so it would say like it's five o'clock at the other way it changed based on the time. Amazing, great clock. That's a beautiful home though I would have to say that was one of the fanciest homes in all of Stars Hollow. Yeah, it was a pretty pretty spectacular home. Yeah, it didn't really get your bearings though. It didn't really look like stars Hollow, did it. No, because it's hard. It's hard

to get your bearings because Loralized House. I can never like figure out, Okay, we're in town is it? And what's across the street? And if Dwightes is across the street and it took Rory only that long to run to towns, it's basically in town. I can tell you where the location of Laurelized House was on the lot in relation to the gazebo and the high school. I was going to say, I've been to that tour. So

you're talking about Scott tell us. So how far is it, like if you were running from Laurealized to Luke's how long would that take from Laurel from Laurelized to Luke's Diner? Oh god, that's uh, it's it's maybe fifty steps, sixty steps. It's not far. So you've got you've got the gazebo where that town square is right there, right, But that law is okay, if you're standing there and you're facing

Luke's diner. No, I'll say, if you're standing there and you're facing Luke's Diner from the gazebo, uh, A little bit to your left is Stars Hollow High School now a little bit okay? So, and right behind if you're staring at it Steiner right behind you in the street behind the town square is Laurealized House and Mrs Kimson and Lane's house. That's where it is. So he was, so he was, And then the movie theater where Kirk would we'd watch Kirk's wacky films and go to the

movies and all that. That was across the street from Layalized House, and the house next to that one was supposed to be Dwite's house. And that house looked nothing like Dwite's house looked in this show. Oh interesting, yes, because that looked like they were in another suburb that looked that that house looked like they it was in some kind of really right because there wasn't a tree really, and all of a sudden there's this lawn and the architecture is like a little bit of a different vibe,

which I guess you could have. But still, so there you go. There's your, there's your. I mean, let's talk about it now then, because I think this is such an important moment for Rory and Jess, huge because he cared more about her than himself, Like he came all the way over fixed the lawn blah blah blah, and then finds out the Dean's coming and he wants to protect her. He cares about her more so that I think.

I think, I think he's always going to be a little bit self serving, you know, his he he really likes her, so that was a little bit for him too. But I mean, I get your point, but I mean, come on, there's some self in so I think he I think he really showed like I care about her so much. I like her so much. I don't want her to be in a bad predicament. I'm just gonna pop this water back on. I thought that there was so much meaning to that moment. Yeah, yeah, I agree,

it was. It was a perfect opportunity just being the opportunists that he is, you know, took that opportunity to try to further ingratiate himself. See, I just thought it was genuine, Like I thought, he's like you know what, I ran over her here to help her. She's she still broke his heart a little bit. Like he's kind of broken hearted because he wants to be with her and she's not breaking up with Dean. But he's now to the point where he's like, I don't need to be a jerk like I like her. I want to

help her, so that's why I came over. And then I want to help her more because I don't want her to be in some weird position with Dean. I think he's also bummed that, you know, he finds out that she called Dean before he asked. She asked for his help, so he's like, you know what, I'm just gonna let I'm just gonna let him deal with it. Think he fixed it. She didn't really asked for his help though, Yeah, I guess, but like she I think she alluded to it. She kind of it, I mean,

not really, it was Cowin's happenstance. I guess. I don't know. I'm you guys An know this, but I'm very team Jess, so I don't know. I've always loved Jess, even through all the boyfriends, Like I just see something in him that I feel like maybe, like Amy saying, in it in him right now? Yeah, I mean she was looking for Luke, remember, like she's looking for me. She really was going she texted Dean or Paige Dean. Then she was looking for Luke and Taylor. I thought that was interesting.

Those are the two people that's right she went to, you know, like the dad's yeah, you know what, maybe you're right when you you know, he encountered her. She was soaking wet, and he did want to help her. He oh my god, this is a bad situation for her, you know, as far as first stars hollow. Yeah, and then he just ran. It was genuine. I don't think he had alto are your motives? And I believe they proved that because he turned the water back on he couldn't And then like I just run over here to

help you. And now you're saying Deans you know, but he did the the I don't know if it's the right he was. There was some nobility, he was noble, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he showed some real character there. Yeah. Made me like him,

and I think we're getting we're getting closer. I will say the one part of that scene that made me kind of laugh a little is obviously like Rory was soaking wet, and then Jess goes over and for five the two seconds he was turning off the water, he was just drenched, like Jesse've been there for all of two seconds. Come on, I do have a bone to pick with this episode. Do you want it right now? We need to take a bone pick it. I mean, sorry, this is a real This is now like to the

point where I'm like, guys, what what is happening? The fake eating is really bad. At Friday night dinner. I don't know if any of you guys noticed, but Emily had the tiniest like it was a pin dot of pork on her fork, Like it was like what the minuscule bites, the fake cutting, the fake eating. Like I have one more to add to that list is when Rory went to go water the plants inside Dwite's house and she's just like barely tipping over the water water

and like you weren't watering anything. Yeah, okay, so in in in defensive actors who aren't eating eating, eating their faces off during scenes. First of all, it's Emily. She's an elegant mannered woman. She has impeccable table manners. If Okay, here's the problem. When there's so much dialogue going on back and forth, and you know, with a quick pattern, if if you, it's very easy to mismatch a scene or mismatch afford coming up to eat right in those

types of scenes. Okay, Now, if it was just Emily having a long monologue, will be easier to do the real eating and really sell the eating part of it and all that. What's important here is not the eating we all get, you know, they the creators make this decision. Look, guys, you know what's important here is the comedy. Okay, it's not the eating. We're not making you know, uh uh an oscar worthy drama film where everything has to be you know, you gotta put all that feelings into the

Food Network, right, It's exactly. So it's like, let's just minimize what maximize what's important here. What's important here is the timing in the comedy. And I think the fear is in the editing room. You know, the editors are always going crazy but like this stuff doesn't match, we can't use this takes and it's a brilliant take. And Lauren was so great in this and Richard was because somebody lifted their fork at the wrong time. So you

want as an actor to really simplify your movements. When you're editing your table scene and you're supposed to be eating, it's very difficult to match stuff because I think she just didn't care for flavor less pork, So you know why it might be so jarring. Is also and I don't know, Scott, if you've gotten to be addicted to TikTok yet, we're hoping to get you there. On TikTok? What is the deal with the eating? I mean, these people eat like almost it's almost gross. They take like

a SMR. Is that what it is? No, it's actually um. It has another word for it, but it's like SMR. Do you know who sloth girl is? Or yes, do you know what I'm talking about? Catchio pepe that girl? Yeah, eas like her whole TikTok is just like eating and chewing last night after like going down her TikTok page, I'm like, why am I doing this? This is almost gross?

She you guys gotta watch her. She eats so like what's called It's called muck bang, which is basically like broadcasting you eating and like making the sounds of eating. So it's a thing. Yeah, it's a smr for eating. Is that why I'm addicted to like watching her eat? Or catchio peppe? Well that's her saying it. I don't know. Then she's eating, you guys gotta watch her. She eats crazy spinach pizza and it's just like pouring out of her mouth. And I'm like, why, why do you want

me to do? You want me to get involved in this? You want me to eat on? Watch it and see if you think it's because they do the oppo sort of fake acting eating. They're like mowing food, like what are they? Does it too? San Sean White, you know, the like gold medal snowboard guy, So he eats while watching videos of people snowboarding, and I'm sometimes I'm like just fascinated by what is he eating? And it's copious amounts of food, like like he eats twelve pancakes, Like

I'm like what. I could literally watch videos of turtles eating lettuce like for hours, like they have animal ones too, or you just see a turtle with anybody anymore. I'll get into this. Here's my next question for you, guys. I knew Laura Lie was. I wanted to say a swear word, blowing it, screwing it up by accepting two dates at one time, That's like, it's never going to work. It's like dating one oh one, don't do it. You throw you got you throw Bowie out there in a week.

But he wanted to see her sooner. That was the reason. If you're going on a first date, guys, would you ever accept too when you don't even know the person? It depends on if if I really, you know, I'm vibe, if I was buying, if there's a David Bowie ticket involved, I'm accepting five dates. I knew she was doomed at that. I knew. I was like, oh no, I wrote never a good idea. Well it's Bowie? What was this? This was?

You know? I wonder if in the writer's room they had they had to have to take a poll on what the title of this episode would be, like, hey, it's Bowie man, or like that Maria Muldoer beat out Bowie. Interesting? And I liked this episode. Oh god, yes, it was terrific. We haven't even really have we discussed it fully. I mean, I mean, we're getting there. It's it's not so heavy. I think we really broke down the scene that was the most important to me, which was the water on off.

There was no real drama between anybody, even the Gilmore's were working it out. I will say I thought, I thought at the end when um Emily was saying, oh, like, it meant a lot that you're saying that, and then she and then I felt like she was almost gonna let Lorala off the hook and like beon on her team, you know, and like to say it's okay, don't worry about it. And then she literally was like, okay, so go on the date, and I'm like, no, we almost

had it. We almost had it. I'll never drink tea in the same way because I want the prime te spot. I literally made tea for this today. What was her name, Sally Worthington's and her bad check what happened? It bounced, Laura line bounced, just lost your teeth? Uh I just I laughed out loud many multiple times on this one. This, You know, I wanted to look up who played Dwight? Who played Dwight, because that guy's like a character actor. We can get it at first. Jason Kravitz. Oh yeah,

I knew it. I think he was on House. I'm gonna anybody want to bet me five dollars anyone? And I think it was the practice five dollar bet, Tara, do you want to make a five dollar bet? I think, okay, it was the practice. But now I need to see if he was also on House. And if he was, then we'll just call it called a draw. Oh I'm nervous, and it wasn't House. I don't see it. I lost

five dollars. Anyway, while you're looking for that, I will reiterate I have never seen an episode that utilized guests the two guest stars that it had, or actually um two of two of the several guest stars are three or four or whatever. I've never seen it used. This is how this is a an instructional episode on how to use guest stars, because it really pushed the narrative,

both narratives of this episode. Everything was hanging off what these guest stars laid out for us in the beginning without having to see them repeatedly throughout the episode, and just let you know the main characters have fun with it. It was. It was. It was genius, absolute structural genius in my opinion, what's your veto? I pay my bets. Wait, I have your veto, though I'm paying it to you

right now. I lost it and I apologize to Peter Jacobson because I comed Jacobson with the guy that played Dwight. So all right, so there are actually my crack research team came up with several inconsistencies, and I think, give it okay, ready, all right? At time mark sixty to seven minutes, when the cameras on Laurelai, there is a man on the couch behind her that disappears and reappears between the various takes. So what, yes, give me it one more time? What? Yes? You may say the whole

thing again? Yeah, because I don't even understand how that's possible. It's possible, the the extra wasn't there in various takes when you cut back and forth, right, So when they cut back to Lorela, he's there. When he go to Roy or whoever she's talking to. When she cuts back to Lorela after that, he's not there. That's a lot worse than a bite of food and a four and at four at the auction, when Natalie comes up and refers to Emily, as the cobra, h squeezing Cobras don't

squeeze their prey. That's that's the constricting snakes. That's the python, the anaconda, and the boa constrictor. I should know this because I grew up with boa constrictors. They were my pets. I love constricting No, no, that you did not have snake pets. I did, and I would feed it a mouse once a week and watch him strike it quickly and crush it to death and swallow it. Thank you very much. But the wonders of nature. Um, wait, cobras don't.

The cobras are venomous, poisonous snakes. They're like, yeah, they bite, they don't wrap around and squeeze. What a constricting snake does is the one that squeezes. Is they you know that's they wrap around? Came out of that basket. Yeah, that's a cobra. They don't. They don't wrap around people and squeeze. So this was an incorrect um snake to acknowledge good knowledge, she was using the wrong snake. Emily, is an anaconda, a boa, or a python. She's not

a cobra. Thank you, thank you, thank you for listening. And we'll have a little plastic constricting snakes viewing on your way out to take home with you three minutes. Uh. Watch Lauren's lips when she is on the phone with Peyton, Sanderson says from Mauie. Now, this was probably one of the worst sound edits that was spliced in because what she really said in the original audio and what was

in the original script was Bali, not Maui. They had this license Maui after the fact because of the Bolly bombing. It happened eleven days before the episode aired. No terrorist attack so killed all those people. Yeah, so I had to rush in and I guess that's probably the reason why they had to rush in and say Maui instead about yes. Um. And it was a very obvious sort of you know, looping at it um at thirty nine. Um, there was a blue baseball cap on the right side

of Laurelized dressing table. Is that a sub Was this when she's getting ready for the date? Probably guess, oh, a little winky wink to who's going to sleep here? One dat subliminal advertising? Um? Okay, So one we've talked about Alex Borstein, the scre aiming wife on the inswer Machine thirty seven minutes. Have a look at the fish in the aquarium. They are hilariously fake and oversized. I

thought that now. What I thought though, was that was actually intentional in that he's just got like a it's just a play tank, right, because it was so crazy, right. It fits in with the theme of what he was doing in the in the interior decorum, and I think we have to give credit and I think you'll probably go over this in pop culture episode as a Maria Muldaur's Midnight Out the Oasis, which is this incredibly iconic song.

There are a couple of pop culture references that we will see later this week if Tara gets it, because there were some subtle ones in there. And I just want to say good luck to the Philadelphie. Oh okay, I don't know what that means, but that's great. Well, they're in the playoffs in their center is injured and everybody. We'll see you next time next week. Episode six, Take the Deviled Eggs. Seems like it might be time for a cooking video with Tara deviled eggs, but I don't

know yet. I have a good deviled egg, so good. Oh they smell so bad. Oh but they're good, yeah, delish. You know, they smell up your whole house like toots. Alright, nothing like a good tooting smells TikTok. Videos of watching people eat eggs. I think that's it, Mr. Videos eating deviled eggs. Oh, gag me, but okay, that could beat Scott's first TikTok. Okay, you know what you name it? No deviled eggs. I don't know. I'm not gonna do that,

deviled eggs. I mean, I'll do it, I mean, but it's but it has to be like, you know, falling out of my mouth, you know, in the firehouse when you're the new it's not called a guinea pig. It's not called a rookie. It's called the It has a name to the p Maybe we'll get back to you next week. But that's so she's got to make the deviled eggs come prepared. Um alright, everybody, that's it. Thanks

for downloading. Best Fans on the Planets day sick m Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. Oh you, gil More fans, If you're looking for the best cup of coffee in the world, go to my website for my company, scott ep dot com s c O T. T y P dot com, scott ep dot com Grade one Specialty Coffee. Yeah.

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