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In Fact, Everyone’s Coffee is on the House Today (S2 E4, "The Road Trip to Harvard")

Nov 08, 20211 hr 19 min
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For a television show like Gilmore Girls, marketing and promotion are of the utmost importance. James Pettit worked on Gilmore Girls from the very beginning and still does to this day...and he has stories galore! Plus, he loves this episode and wants to discuss The Road Trip To Harvard. James grabbed his close friend Karl T. Wright to join in, who portrays the Harvard Professor in the pivotal scene in this episode!

 

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I am all in. Oh, let's just you. I am all in? What Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast? All right, hey, everybody, Scott Patterson here and this is the I Am All In Podcast. I Heart Radio one eleven Productions. We've got two really special guests coming on at the same time. My old buddy James Pettitt from Warner Brothers. He's ahead of marketing and also he's bringing with him um a wonderful actor named Carl Wright who played the Harvard professor in this episode, and I think

in one other episode. And uh so, guys, let's let's get into this episode a little bit. What do you think? H Yes, I love this episode. Did you already recap it at the beginning? Did I miss anything? No? No, you're your first up, buddy, You're you guys are first up. So I think I actually wrote this brief synopsis back when I was at the w B network, so I

will read it quickly. With the wedding canceled, Laura Lai is eager to escape the sympathies of everyone in Stars Hollow, so she and Rory take off on a road trip that ultimately leads to Harvard University. While Rory confronts her dreams of college life. Laura Lia ponders what might have been. But there's more. There's this whole thing where she hasn't told you Luke about not getting married. Right. You know,

I thought the episode started. I thought the episode started off. Okay, I did uh bristle a bit on the lauralized criticisms of country music, and you know, I didn't. And I was like, oh, I know. But it's like, as a you know, the producer in me, I was saying, why are you alienating the most uh popular form of music in the world right now or or or you know, I didn't get that, and I think that's the iconoclastic

nature of the creator. Um. But it's like as a producer, and I think this is where the studio may have pushed back on her and said, listen, why are we alienating half the world here? We want people to watch the show. We don't want to lead character to trash country music because I mean there's a lot of great country music. I mean, there's a lot of great rock music. There's a lot of right in every genre. There's like, you know, the bad part of it, there's a good

part of it. But Um, I had no idea that Jodie and the Blowfish with country music because that's what they know. It wasn't what didn't start out that way. It had maybe a flavor because I think he's from there, from North Carolina or something. But it was more it was more kind of rock, kind of country is rock sort of a little bit um but like Dave Matthews kind of stuff. But but he became a country star.

Darius Rucker became a country star, you know the last yeah yeah, um, but anyway, and he's great as they also they also said a C. D C. Highway to Hell was their song, and I was like, yes, I get that question. For a road trip, that is a good song. But don't you think that that's you know, just the characters. I mean, they wouldn't like where they were,

they would they wouldn't like, you know, country music. I think it reveals a Northeastern elitism, snobbishness that is a turn off to a lot of people, which can masquerade as somehow appealing. It's like appealing in some way. Oh yeah, they're like snooty Northeasterners who hate country music. Well you know, well that's so appealing some yeah, and some form. That's funny because okay, watch Gilba Girls on Wednesday nights on

the w B and then watch Reba on Thursday. So I think, you know, probably Lou and Bob remember, remember they probably had something. They probably had something to say about it. But it's like, you know, try to get Amy to change dialogue. It's like, guys, you know, do we want to cut out half the country here? It's like click, Well, but the engagement was off. Now that's the point of the whole episode, that engagement. Max. Are you trying to get me off the subject? Chamee I am.

I'm like, you're done with country? There he goes. James is directing them. That's what he does so well, I want to get to your super pivotal scene. It's like almost a character change for you. Like I was like, who is this nice person? But we'll get to that. I'll get there. But anyway, So so the thing that that really stuck out to me other than why are you trashing country music because I'm a fan of country music?

Um is it was hard. I think they won. They won, They won the war with just the two of them together. It's like I kept thinking, are they going to be able to carry the episode because nobody else is in the episode. We're not in stars Hollow, this is unfamiliar territory. So how how is this going to be rectified? I mean, this better be some pretty great stuff if we're just

going to be spending time with those two. And another thing that I felt, um and and they did at in places and I was pretty satisfied most of the way. But another thing that I felt, I thought that fight in the in the bed and breakfast between mother and daughter was a little forced. I mean, it just can't kind of came out of nowhere, you know. So for me, it felt like it was like, oh, we need them to have some conflict here, and they just kind of forced it on us because it just happened so fast.

I mean, Laurel, I went from being and I get it. You know, they're hungry, they haven't eaten, They're gonna be snappy. But I mean that was that was a that was a brutal fight. What did you think? Did you? Did you have any kind of opinion on that? No? I was actually intrigued by their relationship in it. I'm like the SERTs were a nice throwback for me. That she hadn't her purse, that she was gonna feed Rory, and

that they had like hair or something fuzzy on them. Um. And so the whole like wacky Ben and Breakfast person that had that cheshire cat was the name of the place, and um, the Annabelle dolls in the background, you know, those spooky dolls. I just felt like that wacky character could have been out of Stars Hollow and it fits so. And we had never met that person before. Her name

was like La Dawn or something like that. And I felt like, you know, the relationship was snarky, as it usually is, because you know, they got into the Bed and Breakfast, they checked in to their room and it was like all these flowers like Laura Ashley threw up everywhere, and they made fun of it, and I get it, and I wouldn't make fun of it too, but they, you know, they didn't want to sleep there first, and so the fight was like, I didn't seem that forced.

It just seemed like to me, it was it was good, it was fine. I know you thought it was felt. I felt it was a little forced. Yeah, it was like and Rory had a good point. I mean, it's like you're my best friend and we can talk about anything, and all of a sudden, I want to talk about something, you snap out on me and you know, just turn your back on me and go to bed and scream at me. And it's like Jesus, that's like, well, that

happens sometimes in relationships. Yeah. I think you find out a lot about people and they act a little bit different when you travel with people. I mean sometimes you can go places and not you know, you're friends with somebody all the time, but then when you're with them all day, all night, and you realize, oh, I don't I don't. I don't want to go see everything every every few minutes. I want to do something a little bit differently. It kind of brings out different aspects of

your relationship that you examine differently, you know. Yeah, all right, Scott, that's how I That's how I felt about you when I traveled with you. But and then I was like, I want to do this again. I want to do this again. Let's go, let's go Atlanta, let's go through. Let's go meet your old coach at Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, yeah, they won the World Series, James is like what they want what the World series ended. Since they haven't had a World series, right, why didn't

we go to that? We should have went to that game. Like I take you to the games that are not important. I guess I don't think you can get a ticket to the good games. They're all good games down there. We had a great time down there. Anyway, Congrats to Brian Snitker, the Atlanta Braves, the entire organization, Rest in peace. Hank Karon Um, Yeah, you know, these were these were people that I signed with originally, uh in and back. I came up through their system before they traded me.

Oh my god, I will never get rid of I will never get rid of your baseball card. It's the cutest thing ever. Okay, but anyway, back to the episode. Uh you also try to find Scott's baseball card. It's amazing. What's it worth right now? Do you know, Scotty? Okay, back to the episode. So Melissa McCarthy I love is in this episode two because there's a pivotal moment about her.

Now she's making this this wedding cake that moral I says, oh, don't worry about the cake, and she's like okay, and she's actually making it and it's like four tiers high and she names it Clyde and then she's like, you need to tell um, you need to tell Luke for me. So she goes to the cafe. Suki goes to the cafe and she has to tell you the news. Now you remember what the news was. It was Max and the weddings off. But what did you do? You remember that scene in the in the cafe at all? I don't.

I don't remember it. But um, I was relieved to be back and Stars Hollow as a fan of the show. Now that I'm seeing, okay, get me back to Stars Hollow, I like being I like being with these two. Um. You know, they don't want to mix with the bed and breakfast crowd ha ha. But they were perfectly nice people, and Rory was trapped by the young and the young the older couple sitting down grilling her about her boyfriend and what she's where She's going to call the whole thing.

And they were wonderful actors. They were hysterically funny. Um. But again, this kind of elitism was is washing over them where they're I don't know, they're too good to talk to normal people. And it's like, how is that appealing? And that's kind of through the lens. I was looking at a throw and I know they wanted to get out and they wanted to you know, they didn't want to get trapped by a group of people. Would be but it wasn't that big of a deal. You just,

you know, just be nice to people. I guess I'm getting preachy. I totally get it. But so anyway, so they so, so let's go, We're back and starts hollow. But I like but I like the road trip part of it. It got better for me the closer they get to Harvard. When they finally get to Harvard, that's when the episode started kicking in for me, because now we're seeing all the dreams and the aspirations and all that.

So what I'm doing is the set up to all that for me was problematic, and I would have had I been a studio executive or I had been an editor, I would have maybe said, look, can we dial back on this, or can we edit this out or something, because it's to protect the characters anyway, that's not my job. But now I can voice my opinion. I am. I'm gonna get a lot of emails about this. They're not going to be terribly friendly, but that's just how I feel about it. But I really thought that the setup

was a little bit clumsy, entertaining and funny. Sure, beautifully acted. Yeah, but now we get to Harvard finally, right, and it's like,

now it kicks in. All the dreams and aspirations of Rory's future are being breathed with all this fraction, with all this fresh Harvard oxygen, and then all of of lauralized potential from the past has dried up and it's presented to her in those photos of Valde, the Valdive, Valive, valid Valdive, Victorian ey for me to say, and those moments she has looking off like what could have been? And I'm smart, and I'm you know, I'm very bright, and I could have done this, but now I want

this for my daughter. So those those were very compelling moments and a lot of a lot of great moments with you know, the moment when Rory went into the class and started discussing stoicism with Carl What was that like? Tell us about that, Carl Um, Well, what I will tell you is that I think I was shooting this on my birthday um, so that was kind of cool. Um. But I do remember I was up there doing that speech all day, like for every single take, every single shot.

They needed me to give that speech over and over and over again. At least a hundred times I did that speech. UM, so I knew it by heart. And there was a really nice lady who was a makeup woman. I don't remember what her name was. She had like brown hair, she's kind of tall. She came up and she said, you're so good, you should have your own show. When I said thanks, but they never got my my close up. I'm like waiting, I'm like giving up this.

By the way, Carl, you know I agree with her. Yes, But they used to tell that to everybody, so they wouldn't call that exactly if we had a director that wouldn't stop doing takes, you know, they'd see if start fading and they come up and say, you know what, you're so good you should have your own show. You'd perk up a little like, isn't she great? I'm kidding you should? You should know. It worked. It worked, though,

Keep me going, keep me going. So um. But there's an interesting thing in this this episode that I remember that the other student that she's talking to the Asian MASSI okas like it's Massy Coca from Heroes, right, So like we had kind of be into each other because you know, when your guest cast, the guest cast hangs out, the main cast hangs out. So we talked and we'd

hang out. And then fast forward three four years. He does Heroes and I do Heroes, and I'm like, wow, he went from being like the last person on the call list to like the biggest part of the whole show. And um, but he was such a really nice guy and really funny and um. You know that that scene was really interesting to watch Alexis do because it was really all her, you know, And I remember that day

like people were kind of like giving her space. They were like, don't don't bother her because she kind of had to do a lot. And um, but she was really really nice. It wasn't that big of a scene. She had a couple of lines of dialogue. It wasn't that big of a but he did a lot of stuff other than that within the campus because we were at U c. L A. You know, that's where that was. Obviously it wasn't Harvard. It was too sunny, yeah exactly, and they didn't have the old you know, gothic uh

buildings around Yeah. Yeah, but but yeah, they shot a lot of stuff that day. So because we're moving around and I'm sure you had this all the time, you gotta shoot it right, get it right. And I do remember when I auditioned for this, Um, Jamie Rodowski, who I'm actually taking classes with, she told me to said hello, he said, h yeah, I definitely will. I remember when I went in. Just before I went in, she stopped me.

She said, just talk as fast as you can. Say as fast as you can said okay, exactly, the perfect note, and like, great, you got it. Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, because it's that's different than any other show. You don't they don't want you to say it as fast as you can. So um, and that's part of the humor

of the show that just works. It's it's so cool. Well, they've got eighty pages of black ink, which is all dialogue to fit into what forty minutes, James, you're doing twenty minutes of commercials right, Oh yes, yeah, so that's forty minutes. You gotta get any pages? Yeah, yeah, so you gotta talk twice as fast as anybody else on any other show. And hey, James, has it changed in syndication. They still have the same amount of time, same amount. Yeah,

it's not longer or shorter. Same Yes, And it's on up TV, America's cable network. So anyway, so they so they go to Harvard. They have all those great moments, right, and we now see that Rory is capable of handling IVY League um uh an IVY league education. She's what she's junior now at this point, she's a soft more jr. She's a junior? Is she a junior? We're gonna get fact checked on this, Like, I'm pretty sure because that one lane set off sent off to Korea and she

comes back in this episode. Yes, so is that? Is she a sophomore? I think it was really early. I think she was. I think she had two more years. I think she's a sophomore. She's got two more year. So there she is, as a sophomore at a in a Harvard class, you know, discussing It was a philosophy class discussing stoicism, Yeah, which I had never heard of before, and being corrected by you, you corrected her, I did, and and I had to, I will just say this

real quickly. I looked, I did. I researched that that what that is. I wrote out the script so I knew it back and forth. I knew who this character was, this this man I can't even think of his name right now, um, but back then I knew it backwards and words. And I could have said even more if I had to, just in case, because this was like big deals, right, just in case you had to improv, which was never gonna happen on that show, right exactly, but it has happened on others. We were we had

a kid. We had a kid come in the diner at one line, just some young kid. He's energetic, nice kid, good actor, came in and he started doing a whole monologue. He thought it was this big chance, and he did this in rehearsal, and I tried to warn him. I said, listen, you're you're a nice kid and everything, but don't do that, okay, because they're just gonna cut it and then they're gonna

not hire you again. And it's like, don't just come say the line, do that, And then the first take came, he did his whole monologue again he really just you know, he was so busting out with energy and I just said, guy, he can't do. That's wasting time, which wastes money on set, which we didn't have. We didn't have huge amounts of money and we didn't have huge amounts of time. We had time, but you know, the time was expensive, you know,

I mean that was when it was still filmed. Yeah, right, working on the lot point, working on the Warner Brothers lot. Gilmore Girls was the very last show, always to wrap every night, like we would be doing Friends episodes that sometimes went to like ten eleven PM and then drive out like leave and you all still had camera setup still going. Every night. Every Batman would leave, you know, the films with the Oceans eleven would leave, we would still be there. It's like we'd wave good bye to

Brad pet bye. We're gonna be here for another couple of hours. Scott. Can I ask you, like what it was like to have all that copy? I mean you didn't start did you start off as an actor? What do you mean? Did I start off? When when you came from baseball? Did you did you always like I want to be an actor? Oh? No, no, for me, it was always writing. And then after baseball, I got I got into I Want. I moved to New York and studied, studies, studied and at a theater company and

the whole thing. So I was prepared, you know, I knew how, I knew what I was doing. I was trained and uh, somewhat professional, i'd like to say, But the but the die, you know, the dialogue wasn't daunting to me because I've been doing Shakespeare for several years, and you know, if you can tackle that, you can pretty much do anything. And that's what I always recommend young actress to do, and actresses is getting naily Shakespeare because if if you can do that, there's nothing more challenging.

Actually it's it's not even terribly challenging once you understand the story, because there's such an emotional logic to the dialogue Shakespeare's dialogue that it's easy to remember. It sticks with you. Um, of course you have to do it over and over and over again. But I mean, once you've got it, you've got it. I mean, you know, I can still recite some of those long speeches from Hamlet. Um, it's been twenty years since I even thought about it.

So um, yeah, so yeah, that that wasn't the problem. I think that's probably how I got the job. Yeah, it is a facility with the dialogue. Because I went in there and just sort of nailed nailed, nailed, nailed. It was not a big deal. I think other actors went in and they maybe struggled a little bit with the pace and the whole thing. So for me, it was just it wasn't that hard, you know. Anyway. Um, anyway, so so we're back. So where are we in the episode? Now? Okay,

so we're we're at campus. Laura Lae is like living her what could have been moment and she gets hit on by like a college Oh that was hysterical. Did you not love that? God? I thought that that was so pithy. See that's that's Lauren Graham at her best. You know, it's like she did that happened for her. A couple of those scenes happened, like with the girls in the hallway, you know, she did that stick, which she was like, and then that's Laura at her best.

Rory says, mom, your your college gab comes from happy days and Valley girls so funny, and those girls could not like leave her fast. Enough. They were like, you're just a weirdo. And then and then they go in invade the girls empty room and say, not going there to I want to take a picture. You're like studying at Harvard. And she's like, she's like a robot that won't stop. And it's just hysterical. And and and then Rory puts her pencil up for the pictures. She goes,

what you're writing on air? You do you do in the air? Oh, my gosh, I loved it. It was great. Okay, so but meanwhile, back at Stars Hollow, Scott is serving coffee, uh, Lucas serving coffee to our our little Sean Gunn. And he is, uh having eight refills. I think it was eight refills. And you were very upset about this. You know, I'm in a bad mood, right, I lost my woman. You're taking it out on poor Shawn Gunn, who's actually giving me a lot of business. But wait a minute,

these are free refills, right. I don't think he's paying for him. No, he's not. And news has not got to you yet. The weddings off. The whole town knows, but you don't know. I do not know. Yeah, they rolled back in and you know, people were sort of waving their hankies at him, and Sean says, do you need to hug the whole deal? And then you had your pivotal moment at least in my mind, where we got to see a different side of you, and you sparked up and you were like Swede and not grumpy

and just really happy his hat. Yeah, like oh my gosh, and you gave him as many three cups of coffee as he wanted. It was really nice scene. You just like totally changed. I loved it. Like then I wanted you with her, Like I was like, I'm all in for her, and that's what I'm all about because I was. I was a Max fan, you know, I was. You know, I wanted her to have love. We all want we all want love, and I wanted her to have it.

Had I known that at the time, James, when we were traveling together, I think we would have had a problem. Oh well, I bet we'll have a little problem after this, but that's it's okay. Come on, you gotta love love. Come on, Scottie boyd. Yeah, I do. I do. Scott You seem like when he's giving you these compliments, you seem just the slightest bit uncomfortable. How did you feel about that scene? Well, there's another scene. There's another scene that he's very important, and it's the hoopa on the

lawn that you build for them. And it's a beautiful wood. Are I say it? You said hoopa? Oh again? Thank you, thank you, Carl, professor um. Yes, So you build this and you carve it and there's like goats on it and like weird little ribbons that you carved into the wood and it's beautiful. Well you didn't really do it, but here's the thing. It's a beautiful, beautiful gesture. And she comes back to tell you what. Remember, she's not

gonna like get rid of it. She's gonna keep it, right, she'll because I said, all come in the morning and move it, or I'll move it now, I'll get it out of the yard. And yeah, I didn't move it, and I hit myself in the head, like, oh, I'm sorry you had to come back and see that, and the reminder of what could have been with Max and the whole thing. So he's being very self deprecating, I guess at that point. So sweet, good job. Yeah, yeah, it was you know, it's good writing. What can you say?

I don't know. So we just were just trying not to screw up the lines and and not run into the furniture, right, that's her job. Now, do you remember? The other pivotal moment in this episode is where Lorelei calls Suki after she makes that giant cake she names Clyde and she and she I think she asked you, like, how do you get a business loan? Right? She comes in. Yeah, she finally comes in and there's that scene. Yeah, it's

very nice. Uh, yeah, it was. It was a nice Uh, it was a nice tender scene between those two where you know, the feelings are very raw and he's very relieved and he's feeling like he's feeling lucky. You know, I don't think he feels lucky a lot like he dodged. I think it's one of those moments where he, you know, he was he he didn't want to admit to himself how devastated he was. But once she's back on the mark it he's like so happy, so relieved because he's

got maybe another shot. Well, yeah, and now can you please make a move? Thank you? I know it's in the writing it's supposed to go for episodes and episodes. Well, now that you put it that way, I think I will. I think I will. For you, I go back and then you get to watch them all differently. Now we'll go back and then it'll have changed. I don't even remember filming these saints. I do not remember filming this stuff.

It's like you work, you know, you work so often, and you're working your short term memory, right, and because you have to write, you got to clear out the junk to be able to retain the new stuff the next day that you don't I don't remember any of this shooting, any of this stuff, and I'm watching it like, is that really me? I? So it's it's an odd experience.

I mean it's it's kind of kind of great because it's so far removed from what it happened that I'm not sort of you know, I'm not so hyper critical of it as I normally would be, but but thank you for your kind words. It's uh, they were, you know, there were all nice scenes to shoot with Lauren. They were all tender and nice and you know, fraught with tension and fraught with love, and it's very nice, very nice, experience. Yeah, um,

and then we how do we wrap up the episode here? Well, she goes home and Mom is like, oh, oh god, what do you have to tell me? You're showing me all these photos on a projector I hate projector I'd rather have him in a pile of photos or whatever Mom was saying. And then she has to tell her mom that the wedding's off finally too, and Mom gets upset and Morla I only wants to know what the gift is that Mom got her, So she's like, what did you get me? Did you get me iced teaspoons?

Because teaspoons and nice teaspoons like that that fun dialogue that always happens on the show. And I don't think we find out what that gift is. We do not, and I don't think we will. Well maybe we will, but very funny scene between those two. It kept going off camera too. It was supposed to be over and then they kept going. It was great. Yeah, So Carl, tell us about your experience, um, working on the show

and compared to other shows that you did. Tell Well, I mean, I know you've you you've you've touched on it lightly, but go go into it a little more about the guilt being gilmour ized. Well, I will say that this was probably my first big role, um being on Gilmore Girls. And it was also the first time I got to play a teacher. Yeah, because I came from a family teacher, so it's like a big deal

that I got to actually play a teacher finally. Um. But it was definitely one of those jobs where I felt like, this is a step up because there is a rhythm to this show. You've got to match what they do. It's not just you come in and you say you're your plot points. But this was actually a dynamic working with other people and I was leaving the scene. I got to leave the scene, and that was it was really exciting for me. Um to get to do that.

And they said one I left, well, you know, she's got to go to college, and maybe you'll get to come back. Maybe you get to come back and lo and behold. Two years later they did call me, so, Um, I did get to go back. But that's another show because they they said I ended up working for a different college. Um. I was her professor and at Yale as well. And itsbelievable you could have you know, maybe they didn't tenure you at Harvard. Yeah, differybody said that

I really wouldn't happen. You wouldn't go from Harvard to Yale. It wouldn't happen. That's what people told me. Really wouldn't happen. But I was I was just glad that they even thought to bring me back and do it. And um, you know, it was It definitely felt like kind of a family thing to be in that community of the show because you guys are just working so tightly together and it's got to work so fast. Um. It was very cool. It was. It was really cool. Alright, alright, guys,

you're ready to play? Uh rapid Fire? Oh my god, it's the game. I love games. Do you want to sing a country? So? First? I love my My wedding was a game show? Showed up in boots. I actually did I've written a country song? I did. I did write a country song. Thank you. That's what I want to hear thinking to men. I know. Sorry, anyway, Rob forgot the word. It's a new one. Maybe we should

put that song at the top of the show. No, never mind, already have I already have a song that I wrote and recorded as a theme song to the podcast always producing. Oh I love that pop that that theme song on this show, on my show, Yeah, on this on this podcast. I love it. Yeah, that's my song. Oh is that you singing? Yes, I didn't know you've had like a tenor voice. That's I didn't wow out, Louise. Okay, give me some rapid fire. What's the rapid fire? Yeah?

Give me something? Are you ready? All right? You guys, you guys. We're gonna have to do this together with both of you, right, so you both have answer at the same time. Is it about this episode or just in general? I'm not telling you anything cooking about baseball? No, no, no, it's not about baseball. Are you ready a rabid fire? You have to answer these questions as fast as you possibly can. Ready, here we go. How do you take your coffee? Oh green? Can you smell snow? I say no,

I can smell, not spellin. I can't hear smell snow snow? Are you team Logan? Jesser Deane quickly? Quickly, Jess, Jess, Jess, Jess Kevin best, who's the daddy you are? Best memory of Gilmore girls. I'll go with that question. I'll go with that answer too, you have an adorable son and he liked the Olivia the Pig? Am I wrong? The best memory of Gilmore Girls? Best memory of Gilmore Girls? I do have an adorable son who's who like and

he likes Olivia the Pig. Who's Olivia of the Pig? Oh, that's a. It's a. It's a. It's a book with the little girl who is the little girl pig? And she likes to sing. He reads like three books a day. Now. Well he's just like, it's like, what's yeah, he's yeah, he's got that in his collection. He does. I told him he wants to go to m I T So. I said, he's seven. You can't go to m I T at seven? Is a young Sheldon or something? Another WB plug There, ladies, what's your best memory? If gil

More Girls A time traveling with you? Mine mine too? With you with you? Go ahead? Uh? My best memory is watching those two work together. Watch Jing Alexis and Laura went together. It really felt like my daughter. It's it's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, that's that's when I first got to Toronto to film my stuff for the pilot. Um I got. I got to the set a little early and I've said this before, but I'll say it

to you. I saw those two rehearsing a scene in the diner before I went into hair and makeup, and I thought, boy, this is gonna work. This is where this show is really gonna work. If these if these two were carrying it, Yes, this is gonna work. Um, and Alexis was so young at the time, right, she was just like, yeah she was. She was a freshman at n y U. I'm sorry, yeah she was. She a freshman at Tish School. I think she was in

film school or something. I don't know. Um, show you're binge watching right now, murders and the murders in the how murders in the building. Okay, I'm succession. Oh Brian Cox, Yeah, yeah, I'm enjoying the banter between the family. An old friend, Brian brilliant actor. He was. There's a film he did a long time ago, Scottish film called hid an Agenda where he was just marvelous. Um, he's good and everything. Uh. Cast member you texted most recently from Gilmore Girls cast

member Yes, kick again. Yeah. I had to text her because she's hosting with Um Todd r The up TV Gilmore than Mary or Binja thon again, I'm out of a job. No, you did it for three years and you'll be back again, you know. Bill. Bill just texted me up TV. Yeah, but he's not there anymore. Yeah. I worked with a new crew, but I enjoyed them very much. Yeah, there's great people there anyway. Um, they love your show. By the way, they are Gilmore Girls

all the way. You know. They air four episode tonight. Is that all just four? Four? That's back to back, right four. Well, maybe we'll maybe we'll do a podcast with him, you know, maybe we should do a podcast. You might do a whole thing, all right. Um, I was gonna say my text. I texted Jamie. She's a casting Jami Rodowski. Yeah, yeah, okay, Jamie. Jamie came on with Mara to cast the show two on. Yeah. One word to describe Gilmore Girls uplifting, clever, clever and uplifting.

There you go. Are you familiar with the creepy clown pillow? Am I familiar with a creepy clown? Obviously neither of you, two gentlemen, you too fine gentlemen, or not familiar with the creepy clown pillow? Nor was I and I don't know if I want to be familiar with it. It's just a thing. And what is lauryalized house? In the couch, there's a clown pillow that they keep moving around and it's you know, the fans get a kick out of

spotting it. And now we're kind of finding it in a lot of episodes and it's in different positions and it's kind of a fun. Yeah, I was, I was at Harvard. I don't know. I don't know of such silly pillow games. I don't remember the like you individuals. I did go with Penny Wise for Halloween. Oh did you Yeah, they hit clown? Where did you go? Did you go to a Warner Brothers party? No? No, no, the children come to the house and you scared them. Oh you were doing that whole bit. Yeah, they want

the candy. They come, they come to the porch, and you give them the candy as right. I understand the ritual. I did it too. Halloween. Oh it's the Halloween Halloween die hand out turkey legs. On Thanksgiving, I'm sitting there waiting like an idiot. Um nobody comes. No, Like I was, I was Morpheus from h and I had a white bag that had a blue pillow on the front or a red pill They had to pick which bag they wanted to candy from. Oh my gosh for the movie Yeah, um,

what did your son come at scott for Halloween? Uh? Nick? When as the ghost from Scream, he had a regular ghost mask and he had a mask, the same ghost mask that you could make bleed oh in the face, like in the face. It had a tube and a bladder for fake blood, and he squeezed it. And so you know, I was Johnny food poisoning at that point. And and what happened here on the screen there's the

clown pillow. That's the clown East that is creepy. That Penny okay, you're Amy Sugarman is showing picture with a clown pillow in the background, and it looks like Pennywise, Yes, like Pennywise being cute, not Runnywise being core. But anyway, so I was I was left home alone with my recovering from from my food poisoning and answering the door and giving people candy, Like how did you get food poisoning or did you already talk about that on a

different episode? Bad? I had a bad head inexpired turkey slice. Oh long, it's not good. Yeah, it wasn't good. Uh. And then and so Nick one, uh, who got scariest costume at the you know, they went and trick or treated, and that they had had this big stage set up and an auditorium and they had contests and the whole thing after the trick or treat is a big event.

And so my wife's sending me this video of Nick going up on stage and talking and being scary and his costume and other kids going up doing stuff and saying, what's going on with us? Anyone trick or treating? And uh? And then she sent another video where he's like receiving a golden statue. He's like, they've got this huge trophy for scariest costume and everybody applauding him. He came out, he wouldn't let go of it, and he went to

sleep with it. So, yeah, the scream costume with blood dripping on a seven year old is pretty dark scared exactly. So I was gonna say, seven years old and you got you got the animatronics or you got moving things. But he really owned it. He like, he went up on stage during the competition and he was like he got into a scary position. He it's like like a ghost with scream right, all right, so he won. Uh but he hasn't seen it, right, he's never seen No, no, no, no,

not yet. I mean it is coming out in theaters another version to do what they're gonna do a reboot. Yeah, yeah, God, nobody's doing that. It's amazing. They they're the first ones. I forgot to mention. My penny Wise was a Pennywise and drag, so she had long her six inch heels. He was crazy, so the children were a little confused. You you've won your share of Halloween costumes in the past at Warner Brothers. Yes, there's a Halloween party and

I like to participate. So I like to dress up different every year, and it's usually a Warner Brothers character that you go as. Oh, I should have win as Luke. One year. I saw a lot of people on your Instagram, h Scott like went as you and that was awesome. We have a contest every year, so it's they're dressing up their dogs, their little kids. It's very cute and a lot of people participate. We give them free coffee. But you know, we picked ten winners and send him

some free coffee. It's it's really scotty, some Scotty peas, big mon Scott, big coffee buddy, Yes, which I get from my daughter, but you got her fifteen and she's all into coffee. Right now, I think we'll go. We're gonna probably send you a bag because you're you're on the show of that. James, how many bags I sent you with the whole lineup, didn't I yeah, we didn't. You get a whole boatload. You got a whole boatload. Yes.

And then remember, like after the first year, we changed it and added that that ingredient that helps you go potty better what you told me that we were at the secret that was a secret. You're saying, what are you talking about? No, it doesn't help you go potty better. The cascara, Yeah, that's it. Yes, I'm telling you it helps you. Got it does? Yes? Well, I mean it's it's fiber. Yeah, I mean, it's like it's nutrients and fiber.

It's it's it's the it's the the fruit that grows around the coffee bean on the tree that you really discarded and we grind it up and added to breakfast plen and house plot and it's full of nutrients and iron and great stuff fiber. The phrasing was, it was funny. Didn't you add that stuff to it that makes you go potty? The name of it. I knew I was going to have fun today. Oh good, we had a lot of fun too. Thank you for inviting us. That was so nice of you. And Amy Sugarman. Huh don't

you love her? God? What a ball club? Yeah, she lit up. She lit up like a Christmas tree when I when I mentioned your name, by the way she did. Yeah. Well, Amy Sugarman and I go back to our Gilmore days because she was around um working on radio, and I would have to call her to get you booked on Ryan Secrest show. So that's how the marketing all works. We're still good friends and and anything that she wants we will will always do for you. You're the best, buddy,

You're absolutely the best. Um. Anyway, guys, thank you so much. Pleasure meeting you. Carl, Thank you, see you guys, see you by bye, Carl, Bye James. Yeah, okay, everybody, we're back. Wasn't that fun? James and Carl fantastic conversation with those two gentlemen. Uh, and we're gonna we're gonna chop it up a little more with the ladies here, Daniel Romo, Riley Pelucis, Amy Sugarman, who I believe a little bit up. She's very fired up. I think she's got some hair

treatment going on or something. My camera. I don't know my camera on because I have hair color in hair, but there's hair color. I love James. I love James Pettitt. I've known him as long as you have, like over twenty years. But I disagree, Scott. I agree with you that I thought the Rory lor Life fight in the Flowery bed and Breakfast bedroom was random. It was so aggressive, and I get it because loora Lie is upset and doesn't want to talk about it, but it was almost

like she was mad at Rory. It was like, so I wanted to have a little bit of a conversation. I understand why James liked it because it was a fun sort of scene to watch, but it was really aggressive, like Lorlie was so mad at Rory, and when she could have just said I'm still having such a hard time with this, I don't want to talk about it, but she was so angry. I think you make a

choice as an actor, right you. You you live the given circumstances of the piece of the material that's handed to you, and you analyze it and you make your choices based on that. And I think I think that's a situation where maybe Laurence said if she wasn't given the direction to do that, And I think I think there's also another reason. Okay, there's a couple of reasons. Maybe Laurence said, Okay, we haven't eaten. Uh. That can have adverse effects on personality and temper that kind of thing.

So yeah, I'm going to justify the snap. Okay. So okay, so that's one category. Okay, that can happen, and it's happened to me when I'm starving, man, And you know, when you when you get angry, that might be angry right there. Okay, that might be a clearly beautifully portrayed uh angry alone. It just flips on you in an instant. You don't want to talk about it and turn out

damn light. I'm going to bed by um. It also could be a hangry thing, an a tired thing for Lauren in the moment when there's too many takes being asked to do. It's repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, and

then you can get frustrated. And I've been there too, um and I think I've made some choices based on that, and it's sort of you try not to let it influence you, but you you know, if you start feeling manipulated by the director and it's like too many takes and it's like, yes, okay, what do you need, and it's like I've kind of given you everything I have.

And maybe she was in a situation where she the director was asking too much of her, asking her to repeat herself too many times, and she just got pissed. It's possible. I don't know. I don't know. Writing was aggressive, so it was like it was meant for her to be kind of mad. You can interpret that's interesting. You can interpret that any way you want. You could interpret it with with loving, gentle care, quiet, you can pop at it, you can go you know wild, there's million

different directions you can go with it. If if the director wants a fight, they're going to have to give him a fight, you know what I mean. If if that's the direction, So I don't know, you know, it's

it's like Yeah, Rory stayed calm. She was much relaxed or loving or calm about it, and really was seemed to be coming from a place of like, this is a huge thing, and I think we should talk about it, like you're just ignoring it or pretending it didn't happen, or like, I agree that the scene was important, but it was weird, like it was like but I remember just watching it and writing down WHOA that was like their biggest fight ever and Rory didn't even do anything.

I don't think it needed the anger. Yeah, I agree to get the point of the seeing You get she's devastated. You get that she's in a in a confused place. She that she's conflicted about walking away from Max and all that more life's going to go and that kind of a thing. But I know, loreal Ize seemed less angry at r Rory when she fell asleep at Miss Patty's with Dean and didn't come home. She was so mad at her when it was like all she's trying

to do is sort of talk to you. And then the next morning, I think Rory says something like hey about last night, and loyal lies like we're good, and I remember going we're not good. Yeah, why it's like, you know, there needs to be an apology there. Yes, I thought so too. I was like, whoa. So I just thought that was interesting, not that I didn't like it, but I agreed with you, like, it's interesting to see how James was watching it and it didn't he just kind of enjoy that as a part of it. Well,

he does work at Warner Brothers. He's a tough dude. He's got a thicker skin than we do. Maybe we're just too sensitive for this type of work. Who knows. I have been accused of that before. I liked the antics of the Bed and Breakfast and how weird it was, and that was the amazing Susan Ruttan playing the older lady talking to Rory, who I love from l A Law. So I liked all that and you know, just the weird like bed and Breakfast lady. But I agree that

scene in the bedroom was oddly crazy. I thought you got it right. Yeah, if it wasn't this, I mean, if I'm directing that episode, I'm taking that scene in a different direction. I agree. I was like, whoa. Now I wasn't as bothered by I love country music I wasn't as bothered by them kind of mocking country music. But James made a great point that they're supposed to be listening to this radio station only as country music and then they're playing Hoodie in the Blowfish Like that

was always a little like random, But I agree. I totally got what you were saying. It's like, why did they just rip on country music? Yeah, I don't understand. I mean it was like, I think you kind of nailed it, like they're from this East Coast town. But that's that's the mentality, you know, that's people rip on country music in the Northeast. Now not so much because it's you know, it's it's really it's really become you know,

it's changed. Three. I didn't know if we were looking at it through the lens of today, whereas opposed to twenty years ago, people would more make fun of country music. I mean more like thirty years ago, I would say four years ago, where it was like I lost my girlfriend and my dog, ate my whatever, you know what

I mean. But it's not like that everybody you know, living in the big cities making fun of country folks, and now everybody in the big cities are pouring into the country desperate to get out of the big cities. I guess they're not making fun of them anymore. Yeah, and I do think, you know, I know, we have to we've got to get to pop culture. But I do think that scene between you and Lauren was so

I loved it, Like you, you were amazing. They really are bonding, and it was the first time maybe not the first time, but one of the times where Luke really is the boyfriend. You go to the boyfriend to ask about his advice about opening your own business and wanting his support, and you were really there to help her, and you're like, hey, let's find some time and we'll really talk about this. And it was like such the conversation that a married couple would happen, and you were

like wow. And again, I guess the best way to say it is like Luke is always taking care of her. He's always there for her, and she allows it, unlike Max, who she was like you have no role here, Like Luke has a role. Yeah. I'm now beginning to see the scope of this relationship in the and the and the and the importance it has in the show. Even though you don't see me a lot. Um, it's it's it's one of the pillars. I would say, um um, I'm I don't know. I just I just feel really

lucky to have gotten that role. And the more the more episodes I watched on the point, did I get lucky this role? You know? I know I fell in, I really fell into something. Yeah, Okay, everybody, it's Scott Patter. They know who I am at this point, so I don't have to keep saying that throughout the whole thing. We did. We did get the memo from the fans like, shut up, I'm not gonna say it every like I say like eight times that Scott please stop doing that editing.

We're not editing. M so good. They know what they're doing. The fans know. We try to get the fans what they want. I was about to launch into that. I just need to do it once, that's what. No, just at the top of the show and the show. I don't need to do it eight times in between. We got the memo thank you fans, we love you. You barely need to do it once because they clicked on the podcast so they know. But but but but it's I like doing it. It's fine. It's just like it's

fun to do it. You can remind people. I feel like Ed McMahon and Johnny carsonal rolled into the one and here's Johnny. You know this kind of thing. I don't know. It's fine, do it again, right now, do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not doing it. Are you going to introduce Ley Scott Patterson? This is the Aisland. I can't even say it anyway. You know who I'm channeling for that Seacrest channeling Seacrest with his American idol trumpeting, and this is

your American idol, this kind of thing. He always is so good. He always made it very exciting to watch, even more exciting to watch the show. Anyway. This is so off the point, very smooth, very smooth, very smooth. Cat Alright, So, Riley, you're gonna bring us into pop culture. I am, and I Riley has. She's becoming so big now. She's like really blowing up and achieving the superstar status that we have nurtured her for. And let me tell

you something. We we scouted her years ago, we brought her up through our farm system, and she's really performing at the big league level. She's just dropping knowledge, dropping knowledge. It's amazing. That's who was watching me. Oh yeah, that's what's watching the whole what No, all all the physicians were wrong. You're alright, good people, Let's do it. The people are waiting, you know, no, they're waiting. We're going

to do it. Riley, you're on Hello, I'm going off with Scott's Q. I'm Riley, and this is your pop culture First. We have Laura, Lee and Rory are driving and Lorea Lie needs her tunes. Lor Lie says, never been in this car for any extended period of time without playing A C d C. I need my Highway to Hell Radio says, coming up a three way song super set from Hoodie and the Blowfish. A C d C is an Australian rock band formed in Sydney by

Scottish born brothers Malcolm and Angus Young. In November two thousand nine, A c d C were announced as the Business Review weekly top Australian earner and entertainment. They ranked raked in a Sweet a hundred and five million for the financial year and knocked The Wiggles from their number one spot. You imagine get your voice that high that no, but are you more of a highway to Hell or a back in black? All of it? All of it? I mean, see, just like you can't get enough of it?

But then I'm not gonna what body in the Blowfish? I'm more Hooty and the Blowfish, not gonna lie. Okay, go ahead, Riley, go ahead. Hooty and the Blowfish and his American rock band that was formed in Columbia, South Carolina. Six The band went on hiatus in two thousand until the announced plans for a full reunion tour in two thousand nineteen. Lead singer Darius Rucker. I love Darius Rucker is a very successful solo country artist with hits like

wagon Wheel and Alright. Very successful, very successful country artist. Country music rules. It is the biggest. It's the biggest category, has the biggest listener base of all categories in music. Huge. You guys, remember in Jerry McGuire when Cuba getting Junior is walking through the airport and the kid says, are you Hooty? You're too young for Jerry McGuire, Do you guys not know Jerry McGuire pounds? Wait, yes, you guys, dude, go watch Jerry McGuire, Are you hooty? Is Jerry mcguiree

where you had me at Yes? You had me at Hello? Is that the one? And then show me the money? Show me the money? And you had me at Hello? Yeah? I saw that you had me at Hello? Is really the I am all in of Jerry McGuire? Do you see do you feel me? There? On the on the on the romantic side, see it had it had a line for the men, and had a line for the women. Show me the money is for the guys. You had me at was for the women. Show me do you do it? Girl? You man? You did that? Sorry? Sorry,

so sorry. I wake up and say the same thing every morning. So it's fine. You had me at Hello? No showing me? Who says it's the Beaches delivery guy. You had me at Hello? Laura Lie and Rory stopped to get food while on the road. Laura I says she would make her imaginary tour bus at Hayden stop at Hayden's nuthouse every time. Rory says, wow, you're behind the music is going to be really wild. Behind the Music is a documentary television series on v h one.

Each episode profiles and interviews of popular music group and on the series, mc hammer famously detailed how he squandered his fortune on bad investments and overspending, leaving the rapper bankrupt and abandoned by his so called friends. Too many houses and too many, too much of an entourage. Oh god, what are they actually They actually pay those people, They put them all on the payroll. You start putting your friends like you'll be my security, you will be my driver,

you'll be my list. And then all of a sudden you're broke because they, because they count, say you got to create deduction, So bring your friends on. Pay them. We can deduct everything. But then it becomes like too much. Then you try to fire people counting or much as the friends saying like hey to legit, to quit, give me, give me a job. And they're doing such a good job because he's you know, want to help your friends.

You want to help your friends, then you can get you know, how you help your friends, You teach them how to help themselves. You teach them how to fish. You don't give them a fish, you know what I mean? Flora I says she knows someone that owns up being being portsmouth. Rory says a cool B and B Loora. I says yes. Rory says, that's like saying an understated Nicholas Cage movie. Nicolas Cage an American actor and filmmaker.

Nicholas has been in movies from Fast Times, Original High, Gone in Sixty Seconds, Match, Thick Men, and National Treasure and all are over the top, Riley, Riley, I'm sorry to interrupt, but you've missed the best Nicholas Cage movies. The Rock Han Air, like I don't even the Rock. He was hysterical and that was it was hysterical he was. And Honeymoon in Vegas. Did you mention honeymoon in Vegas? Huh? Hello? Can we get Riley? Come on, I just focus on

National Trader in Vegas? Is not his oscar? He got No, he got it for leaving Las Vegas. No, is that I was called is an alcoholic? Yeah, Elizabeth Shoe right, so much Vegas. He didn't that he didn't have to act. It's like I'll be here on a lounger by the pool, hungover, just filmed me. Cage shared with the reporters that he once was victimized by someone who had broken into his Orange County home. He says, I opened my eyes and there was a naked man wearing my leather jacket eating

a flegetacle at the front of my bed. Very well, you know, I have an alibi for that night. You know a lot of people say I look like him, like thirty years ago. Thirty years ago, people flowed I was him all the time. Yeah, yeah, it was either it was NICKI I got Nick Cage all the time, all the time. Not while we maybe we were kind of the same profile Rock. I can't do with Sean Connery. Can you do with Sean Connery? Riley, Welcome to Sean Connery,

Welcome to the Rock. The Laurea Lion Rary and the flower filled room at the BnB and Laurel I says, okay, I think we just found the first room in the history of the world that would have made Liberati say, whoa step back? No, one's that game. Well, the flowers were moving with the tinfoil. Liberaci was an American pianist, singer, and actor. Liberaci's house had a music theme, musical notes on the iron fence, musical staff above the front door,

and his famed piano shape swimming pool. During a Pittsburgh show in the late nineteen sixty three, Liberacci was rushed the emergency room from after collapsing his costume, which he had cleaned himself with carbon tetra chloride prior to the show, leached the chemicals into his skins. I know and Michael Douglas portrayed Liberacci at Night and in two thousand thirteen Behind the Candelabra, also starring Matt Damon and I missed

that one didn't is excellent, It's really good. Laura Line Rory are fighting about the engagement, and Laura Lie says, Rory, stop it. We're not going to have this fight in a flowery bedroom with denticy Gypsy's, tramps and thieves in the background. It's to David Lynch. David Keith Lynch is an American filmmaker, painter, visual artist, musician and writer. He always buttons the top button of shirt because he feels

too vulnerable with the top button open. He had lunch every day at Bob's Big Boy in Los Angeles for seven years, ordering a chocolate milkshake and up to seven cups of coffee with sugar. Wasn't there a Bob's Big Boy, right? Near where you shot Gilmore Girls. Yes, Danielle, isn't that a Bob's big Yeah? Yeah, with a sweet drive through. It's sort of like a drive up. It's pretty rad. Lorela has just gone on and on pretending to be a fellow student in the campus hallways of Harvard. Rory says,

you do realize that all of your college kids. Jargon comes from Happy Days. Happy Days in American sitcom television series that aired on the ABC Network spanning eleven seasons. We had the iconic Marion Ross on this podcast. Marian played Marion Cunningham on Happy Days and tricks on Gilmore Girls, and currently Henry Winkler's auctioning off his iconic Fawn's charity jacket for charity. Not easy for me to say, apparently an impression of the fawns A nice. That's good because

I didn't know. I didn't know how to do it. That was good. Hey, you gotta pump it up a little bit. That's why I didn't get the job. Hey, it's not an old guy in Coney Island. What's wrong with you? That's not Riley. Don't forget Johnny loves Joni loves Chogy Laurel I is reading the famous people who have attended Harvard, and Laurel I says, oh cool. Fred Gwynn Roy says, who Laura says Herman Munster. Now I'm impressed.

Fred was American actor, artist, and author. He was best known for his roles in the nineteen sixties television sitcom Car fifty four, Where Are You as Francis Muldoon and as Herman Munster and the Munsters. The Munsters first air nineteen sixty four. It was produced by the creators of Leave It to Beaver. The series was a satire of American slipper been life, and Fred's Herman Munster costume was

brutally hot. It was essential to keep him cool, not only for his health, but to keep his makeup from melting town meetings. Huh So he had a town meeting every day at work? That guy inside his costume. Wait a minute, that could be misconstrued. I didn't you know anyway. No, I'm just saying he must have been really hot. Yes, thank you, Lane explains she was in the Lane explained she was in bootleg, Heaven and Korea. Lane says, well,

I strapped into my body like in midnight Express. Midnight Express is a ninety eight prison drama film directed by Alan Parker. The cast includes stars John Hurt and Randy Quaid. This is This was Sir John Hurt's only movie that he did without first reading the script, and Randy Quaid went a little astray and was charged in two thousand nine for allegedly defrauding and keeper in Santa Barbara. Oh Random,

I didn't know Randy Quade was in Midnight Express. I love him an Independence Day but and Laura Li said she's going out. While Rory sits in Normald Blexture at Harvard, Laura Li says, Hey, I'm gonna go find the ladies room, you know, sneak of smoke, see if anybody slipped in aspirin and my coke. Rory says, Okay, Rizzo, I'd like to stay here and listen a little bit more. This

is referring to Rizzo from Greece. Grease nineteen seventy American musical romantic comy film based in nineteen seventy one musical. The title Grease was away for the creators to pay homage to the nineteen fifties and the air greasy hair, Greasy Engines and greasy food. The character Rizzo is played by Stockard Channing, and instead of using makeup, Jeff Conaway Knicky insisted on giving Stalkard Channing Rizzo real hickies. And he did remember a hickey from KNICKI is like a

Hallmark card. Will Smith just professed his love for Stalkard. He fell in love with her on the set of Six Degrees of Separation. Yes, and I was gonna say, can you name Stockard Channing's iconic character on The West Wing? We name the character name? I mean, or just who she played? The first Lady. She was the first lady. She was so amazing, first lady doing what married to Martin Sheen's President party. You've never seen The West Wing. I'm not a big consumer of television. You would love

The West Wing. I don't like a watch. Watch give The West Wing a try because it's like a movie a week. It's so good. You would love it. I'm gonna check it out for you. I'm gonna check it out, watch the pilot and get back to me because it's like probably the best television show in the history of its time, really top ten for sure, better than Billions. Yep. It is. I can't say that it's better than Gilmore Girls, but it is top ten, can't be it is watching Wow.

Where can I get it? Where? Where can I get it? To my local grocery store? Yeah, or anywhere you stream television. I think it's Netflix. It's on Netflix. Rummage around some discount bins, see if I can pick up a couple of episodes. I think it's also a Warner Brother's show, just like you More Girls. They must have being it right near you. Maybe your local blockbuster. Yeah, go to blockbust, Go to Blockbuster, you get something. Dan, you're very silent today.

What's up? You're just you're over there because like Riley's reading, you're playing guitar, and I'm just here, are you losing your mind? You're losing your mind? It's so it's so good, but I can't. I feel like I'm like I don't even know where I entered. It's like a okay, so like it's like a band freestyle and it's like some Riley's Miles Davis and we're like, you know, I'm a trumpet player, name he's a bassoon and or on whatever. I'm not sure it's as good as that Scott, but

I don't know ya. Come on, they play the spoone or something. You can play the spone speaking French, speaking of French accent in place the spoone ahead, Riley, could you give us a John Trable to impression? I think I can, Sandy Sun nice. You're nail and stuff, just nail and stuff. You know, some people are given talents, yes,

some people are. Some people aren't. Some people are robbed of their talents and they're given to other people like Riley, and some people robbed of their voice on certain days, like Danielle, what's going on? Danielle? Say something? Say something? Interject Danielle, do you have a Grease impression? You could do? Come on something screeching car, tire something you give a falzy impression? Something dead? Air is not good? All right, we'll come back to you. You do talk about it

stead is that that's the nice? Tell me about it, tell me about yeah, but can you do it for real? Tell me about it's dead? Oh? I got the thumbs up from Riley. I didn't think up. Go watch Grease. Try it again. You have to like, slow it down, tell me about it, stud tell me about it. Stuff. There's no, tell me abo, tell me about it. That's it for pop culture. Yeah. So my favorite line was from Ladawn, the Cookie bed and breakfast owner, and she says the whole thing with the bell just cracked me up.

I'm not usually sitting here when guests arrived, so people ring the bell, and they loved to ring the bell. And you didn't get to ring the bell. I like, I am a grown woman. This was actually during the fight, says the woman with a Hello kitty waffle iron Um. I guess there's a lot of them, but it was for me. It was just one word that Laurel I said to the college student that was hitting on her. The very last thing she said to him was getchi or gichi and that is a term what is that

a term from the fifties or something like. That's a term from happy days And it was so out of whack with to the back then even uh with two thousand, two thousand one. It was just I got a good chuckolate that one. Okay. And my favorite line is from Suki yet again, and it was when she said you were a good cake, Clyde. I never should have named you the poor cake was so beautiful. Cake she just gave the piece away. It was so sad. She started chopping from the bottom, and I was worried it was

the whole thing was going to topple over. I there was anxiety created there because I thought, just cut from the top, take a slice from well, what do I know. I don't know anything about building wedding cakes. It's dressed me out too. But then I was like, the probably every other layer's fake. So she had to cut the bottom. Oh that is an excellent point. Is that what they do well on wedding cakes? The ones that are really tall sometimes, like the very top ones are just like styrofoam. Yeah.

Can you imagine paying a thousand bucks for a cake and you bite into star in controversy. No Michelle in this episode, right, Oh yeah, that's so weird. It was missing a Michelle. It was miss missing Michelle comedy. Great episode though, great episode, I mean it had it. It had its moments for me where I wasn't so thrilled. But I kept saying to myself in the beginning, Man, you cannot take this show out of stars hollow. This is gonna be a tough sledding here. If it's just

going to be these two carrying this. But that did not bother me as bothered you. But no in the beginning. But I thought they did very well. They brought it around and it turned out to be great. You know, Yeah, you didn't mind Harvard. No. I loved all the Harvard stuff, loved it all, loved it all. I loved it all. Other than I will I'm very curious what everyone listening thinks if we got it right about that argument, or if James got it right. So that's really interesting. They're gonna,

they're gonna, they're just gonna pilary us. They're gonna gonna, We're gonna get We're gonna get lamb based in for this. We're gonna all get on our sleds and sled away here. Uh. Thanks everybody for download and you're the best fans of the world. We love you, we need you, we need your comments. I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In Podcast. I Heart Radio want of them production. Stay safe everyone, hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In Podcast

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