"I'll Be Right There" (S5 E19 "But I'm a Gilmore!")

I am all in.

Oh, let's you. I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

Hey, everybody listen. Before we get sorted, I want to tell you I'm gonna be at Indie Popcorn in Indianapolis, Indiana, August twenty five through twenty seven. To come on down. Let's have some Gilmour fun. Love seeing you guys, and uh, we're gonna have a good time. Okay, let's get started here, episode nineteen, season five. But I'm a Gilmore and I am joined by my intrepid crew, Danielle Romo, Terra sud Amy, Sugarman, who cannot be seen but will be heard.

I know it's so weird. My mic is working, but my camera isn't working. But yet I can see all of you, and you all look amazing.

It is. We're going to have to make some adjustments here, but we'll get through it.

The ironic thing is it's probably the best you've ever sounded.

Oh so weird is like the voice of God.

Yeah my God, thank you.

Well. Anyway, so this is this podcast brought to you by our Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And what did everybody think?

Well, Scott, yes, I have to tell you two things.

Mm hmmm.

Number one, and I apologize that I did not realize this last week that was Jared pat Leuki's last episode ever in the series until the Movies.

Last week's episode.

Last week's episode, and Sory was so grumpy the Diorama one. And I feel bad that we didn't give him the proper.

Shall we give him a big send off today?

Yeah? Because it was sort of like, it's weird. I would be disappointed as that being Dean's last appearance except for the final scene that he had with you. Oh my god, you're You're in Dean Jared's final scene on Gilmour Girls until the Movies.

This is I mean, it's just going to force me to redefine my terms. It's shocking and it's wonderful, and it's sad and I miss him.

It is a little sad that there's no Dean or Jess.

There's gotta be it like that, right.

You know what it made me do? It made me go YouTube that his scene from the movie. I was like, oh my god, that's it.

So then I went they can't, they can't. These guys went off to other shows. Dean was doing. I mean Jared was doing Supernatural, my was doing Heroes.

That's right, two thousand and five.

I think two thousand and five was when Supernatural started, right, it was, that's right.

So here they got those young and down shows.

Man.

Yeah, he had a huge success on that.

Oh gosh.

Yeah, but that was like kind of it made me a little sad. The other thing that's got me in kind of a full panic is that we're in episode nineteen of season five.

Why the panic?

Though we only have two seasons.

Left, but we're going to drag it out.

We're crazy, but too it's just like, that's crazy.

Well we've been We've been just nose to grindstone, really cranking them out every week. I mean.

Man, Also, before we begin, shout out to the like the people that listen to this podcast are some of the funniest people. The comments this week had me dying laughing, Like I was laughing out loud. I'm not going to lie. At one point I was reading it on the body.

Mm hm, which is where you want to be.

Why did I admit that it's lucky that the one day you can't see me because my face is bright red right now? Like, why did I just say.

That because you are uninhibited, you are care free. You're in northern California, hippie. You know, you just let it fly, and that's what we love about you.

True. But I think I'm gonna be quiet now because that was embarrassing. You guys, go.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. You cannot be silenced. You can't silence yourself. Come on now, anyway, what do we think of this episode?

It was good, It was good, good, it's amazing.

Yeah, I would have to say it's a big, fat, six hundred foot home run.

There's a lot of thoughts that we need to we need to dissect a lot.

That's all I'm gonna say.

Yeah, we really need we need to go through this, Amykins, We really really need to go through this. But it was it was it was.

Getting ready for a world of hurt. But this episode is such a comeback from the week before. Oh yeah, it's just like and it's so interesting. You know it right away You're like, oh, we're back. This is amazing.

Yeah that was uh, thank god. That last episode was brutal, hysterically funny episode. This one was.

When they're all hungover, I know what to do. The synopsis, and then Kirk's us Abba zabbas.

He needs a mars bar.

All the things.

For me, those kitchen scenes were the least entertaining for me, but the rest of it was great anyway. So let's synopsize. I think, Danielle, you're strapping on your synopsizations and tools and fly kids.

All right, this is season five, episode nineteen, but I'm a Gilmore Air date April twenty six, two thousand and five. Rory realized she is not good at casually dating, so she tries to break it off with Logan when he decides he'll give the boyfriend thing a try. Loralai needs to find a replacement cook. When a pregnant Suki is ordered to stay in bed, Paris uses her nanny to care for sick Doyle, and Rory goes home with Logan to meet the hunts Burghers.

It was all epic, every single one of those things. You just went through, every single storyline, right, I freaking love Luke kick cooking in the inn. The Huntsburgers, please, They're horrific, but they're a ten out of ten, Fanny ten out of ten, Doyle ten out of ten, Logan one hundred million out of ten, Like, oh, Scott, what did you feel? Overall?

I told you I thought it was a great episode. I laughed, my you know what's off? I mean, it was hysterically funny.

You were particularly good, Like moving around that kitchen could not have been easy, you know.

I mean I was very pleased with the performance, and especially the scene with Suki when I took the ladle away from her, because I thought it was very measured and I thought I finally got the style or the tone of the show, and it was It wasn't all of this anger. It was even It was because the anger gets in the way of the humor.

Yeah.

Yeah, I thought this was funnier because I held back on the anger a lot. So I was kind of pleased about that.

Oh that's such an interesting take, because that's true because you really did have to like do that right with Melissa McCarthy.

You gotta do the tone right now?

Yeah, and the ladle grab by the way agree because I was like, is there gonna be sauce spilling all over that comforters were already making me so nervous, it was like, and so that was like a dance.

You had to kind of really nail that, because if I watch you know, Luke rant and he gets angry, it's not as funny to me as what I saw in this episode because he held back the anger. So the Luke rant, you can enjoy the Luke rant. It's actually funnier.

So do you speak fluent Spanish because you nailed Yeah, because you nailed your hearts both English and Spanish. Like I thought, Oh, I just assumed you spoke fluent Spanish.

No, my Spanish. I took Spanish in high school. I you know, I spent a winter in Dominican and Republic. I spent a winter in Puerto Rico. My sister speaks fluent Spanish. So yeah, I mean I can get by.

Yeah, you be good.

I can go to a Spanish speaking country and get by. Yeah. But I'm not fluent. I'm not fluent by any means.

And did they have to coach you? Can you remember with all that cooking, because I was wondering that as you were sprinkling the parsley, I'm like, is there like some chef expert, because that's like a fine dining restaurant and you want to make it.

As I recall, I do believe there was somebody there, because I remember asking a lot of questions. Okay, so when I'm preparing this, I should be brushing, how should I brush the duck and so on and so forth. But it wasn't terribly complicated, you know. It was just sort of a brushing and then a sprinkling and a way. I didn't really wasn't that big a deal.

I think you did it right, though, because I think that could take it sideways. I don't know, Danielle tar if you guys agree. The kitchen stuff made me think that Luke slash Scott was a you know, a Michelin star chef.

However, that's the most important part of the role. Yeah, you know, you have to nail that stuff. That's the most important stuff.

I just got it.

Yeah, I just love that.

Like Luke is like a fancy chef, like we saw that in there Date Night at Home, you know, but like he owns a diner.

You know.

It's like this guy can make a duck and like make these fancy meals, but at the end of the day, he just wants to serve up some coffee and pancakes and stuff, you know.

Like it's like a nice trick in his back pocket.

Yeah, and I'm wondering why I never never came out with a cookbook.

Oh my god, in real life, I think I'll come out cookbook. It's not too late.

Let's let's do a cookbook. I want to do a cookbook.

Hello, we're happy to participate in the I am all in cookbook.

Yeah, we should do it. Also, man, I got some real recipes and I am an actual cook. I mean I really do cook a lot. I love cooking, so.

I can contribute a bomb gloen free banana bread.

I have one called Ritzy Chicken. Okay, I'm not joking, guys. Let's do it.

Yeah, let's let's stun I am all in cookbook, great, perfect things A good I think it's a great idea.

But publishers listening give us a ring.

You know. I think I have uh, I have the perfect person loop.

This all worked out? Good talk. See yeah bye. Okay, so back to the beginning. I know this isn't your favorite scene. I actually loved this scene with them all being hungover and LORIAI coming in with the tacos and she says good morning Vietnam, and just like kind of realizing Rory was really kind of a mess and they were all throwing up and vomiting. The whole thing was I just laughed.

Yeah, didn't get me laughing. It was just it reminded me too much of the of the Diorama episode, and I was like, oh God, more of this, not more of this. Please just end the kitchen with the Kirk and thing and let's can we do? Let's go. I want to get her on another horse and gallop.

Let's go Kirk with the abbas. Abbas killed me. But also you kind of learn she said too much because she was babbling about Logan while drunk on the bathroom floor. There was some funny jokes about the bathroom floor hasn't been cleaned in like one hundred years. And then she really doesn't want to talk to her mom about it.

Yeah, and it ignores it.

So my question for you guys is does she not want to talk to her mom about it because her mom is going to be like way too much the voice of reason and.

Rory so I told you so.

Yeah, it's also Rory is very uh Unrory, Like I guess we could say with Logan.

Oh not sure what you know, give her a break man. She just likes the guy. She likes everything about the guy. Why can't she be why can't she be all starry eyed? Look, you know, she's had to deal with a long line of I mean, give me it. Come on. Now she's got somebody who might be an actual catch, you know, and there might be a real future days.

I agree. I am cool with it. I think it's interesting because I think as we go through this that Danielle and Tara may have a contrarian view, but I think let her kind of It's it's hard to analyze because she's definitely sort of a puppy dog or whatever the word is, like letting Logan rule the situation.

Ish.

I guess ish it's like she goes to the door to tell him she's out. I don't know. Let's break it down. So, how happy were you to see Logan on that couch?

Very Actually, I said, yay, now we got a Logan episode. So I was like, okay, cool. Now what about that music he was listening to? Was that a bit? We have to find out what that music was because that was very that was strange music. That'd be interesting.

It was a little off. But I was like, is it supposed to be like it's really intelligent listening to like this music. That's the vibe I got.

You know, at least it wasn't Eith p Off or Serge Gainesborough or something.

Also that that place isn't as nice as the place he gets later on. I was like surprised. I had forgotten that he sort of has that sort of crappy dorm room or whatever that is. It wasn't that great. And the random roommate that we don't really know. But so what did you think when Rory was at the door.

I thought it great. I thought good for her. She's being who she is. She's expressing how she feels and she wants. She's not that kind of girl, you know, And I like it. I like where you're standing up herself.

And were you surprised when he said, Okay, fine, I'll do it, I'll be your boyfriend.

Yeah, but he went through fits and starts to get to that point, and I think that was good acting on his part. Yeah, because he can't fall easily. He's given him And if I'm her and I'm watching him do this, you know, this hesitation thing and with her sister will come to dinner while we'll talk. You know about it, but you know, he's giving himself some runway to sort of back out, and that's kind of I thought she would have just stopped him and said, you

Yes.

The one thing that was annoying for him to say, okay, fine, I'll be your boyfriend. He went through like all these things of like basically saying, well, you're saying that I have to do, you know, like I don't know. He was like kind of putting the blame on her for his decision, and it's just like just.

Say no, you know what, I agree, I want to be your boyfrien. You know, like he was.

Just using her words to to basically give an excuse as to why he's saying, fine, let's be boyfriend girlfriend.

And that's what's so fascinating because the unrory like art is she's so smitten with him that she pushes back for like a hot minute and then she's like okay, great, and you can see she's so happy. She was so devastated more devastated than ever, thinking she was gonna he hadn't called and she's gonna lose him. And she tries to be strong and be like you can't do it, and he's like, if I say can, I can, I've rectified the situation. And he's sort of so logany.

That how annoying was that I rectified the situation. It's like, bro, come on, you rectify anything, like stop like becoming the hero in this situation, like it too to you, not.

To me me, but so like loves him was like a level.

It was pretty insulting to Rory about how he went about that because he finds how would he justify it to himself? He goes, well, I like to try new things, and you know this could be interesting. You know It's like what what am I a science experiment over here?

You know, right?

And then you know, look at it.

And then the girl showing up with the door. I was just kind of like Rory, like it's not good Like for me. I was like, it's he can't change overnight. No, even if he does, I'm not saying he can change at all. Maybe he can't. Maybe he can, but like literally the door opened and it's a girl, and it's like, well, there's your answer.

The phone rings. It's a girl, you know exactly.

So you're all helping me prove my point that I just couldn't express properly is that Rory is being un Rory, like she would never sort of put up with all that, but she's so into him, and I understand it that it's like, yeah, she's just so stoked that they're not breaking looking up. She's so stoked that she's sort of like, will be happy with this kind of candle. I rectify the situation and tell that girl I'm not going to go buy her ludge.

Logan Logan smart, good looking, rich, connected aloof that's a powerful combination for, you know, nineteen year old to possess.

What do you think Logan is really feeling.

I think he absolutely see I think he knows what he is. I think he likes that he can have anybody he wants. And I don't think he's changing, But I think he sees with Rory, he sees the two paths that his life could take, and he's choosing he wants to. He doesn't want to have to choose, you know what I mean, Yeah, doesn't he just wants to have a convenient situation with Rory because he knows how

But I think he does like the chase of that, like in the sense that like he's not one hundred percent in control. I mean he's like ninety percent in control, but that ten percent where she's like, I can't do this anymore, you know.

Like I think he's not used to that.

Like I think he's steel like a girl being in the wings, waiting, showing up at the door, calling him on the phone, doing all that stuff, you know, to just waiting on his every move versus she's like, you know what, I can't do it.

So like I think he likes the thrill of that and not.

Yeah, I think two things were interesting. One is how many girls he has, because one's on the phone, one's at the door, she's there. There were He's got a lot of ladies. He's sort of dating around with number two. She's definitely the winner of the ladies or the girls, however you want to say it right, Like, she's the He's the most intrigued with her. He likes her the most.

Yeah.

I also think I'll bring it up later. But I think the end of the episode made me think why he doesn't commit.

Oh because of his terrible parents.

Yeah, he doesn't want to bring her into that insanity.

Yeah, and he's the heir of the throne. I like almost threw up in my mouth when he was like that.

There's so much to discuss when we get to that. Yeah, So let's switch to Paris and Doyle, which I gotta say.

I love them Like Doyle is kind of rad a perfect match for each other.

Yeah, that is that is one wacky couple.

It's kind of funny when Logan later acknowledges it like after the whole you know episode happens at the Huntsburgers, and he's like, I just I can't take any more crazy and go into your dorm room tonight.

Like with Paris, it's like, you know, I'd watch that show, the Paris and Doyle show. I would watch that show. They're so wacky. Yeah, they're so good together that that could be its own show.

And I kind of love Nanny and I love that she calls nanny and that she's like going to be a medical she's pre med.

But it doesn't like, can everybody stop saying that, like just their whole thing.

He was a great fake sick actor too. I was like, he seems sick. That cough was disgusting. I don't know, I just liked that whole thing.

Yeah. I liked that she backed away and said, I just I can't do this. I don't but you're but you're but you're pre med. I see. Really not the point she got the heck out.

And I was very pleased with Michelle in this episode too, because he was quite funny on the phone when she's like, well, how is she? And he kind of has that classic line like.

He does ain't no mountain high enough? Come on? That was that was the line of the episode, one of them.

Anyway, that whole thing was just he was really back and bringing her into the kitchen and kind of like telling Laurli like none of these people do what she does, you.

Know, But that's that's how he's. Michelle is a dish best served on the side, yes, you know. And with Quippi, great little lines. He's great. He's not a meal, he's but he's great in that supporting role where he comes in and just delivers the funny stuff.

I feel the same way about Kirk. I don't think i'd watch a whole Kirk episode. I just meet those sprinklings with the Abba Zabbas and the mars bar and the whole same with Michelle.

I just thought, you don't need the full storyline, yeah.

Just little bits to kind of keep me interested. The one thing that I did notice though, is the duck, the raw duck. Have you guys watched Poisoned on Netflix? No, the raw duck seemed way too close to the other food to me, hm, way too close. I was like, we're all getting salmonilla.

Wow, we had no such trepidition.

Oh. I literally there was a bowl of something red. I couldn't tell if it was a bowl of tomatoes or raspberries, and it was like literally almost touching that raw duck. And I just I all that was going through my mind is like, I don't think this is on proper cutting boards. I don't think that kitchen was run as wonderful as you are, Scott and a wonderful chef. That kitchen didn't seem to be following health coats.

Let me tell you something. I stepped into somebody else's situation to save their butt. Don't you dare criticize me. Don't you do it?

But did you put walnuts in the sauce or what I put Cashew's walnuts, peanuts anything?

I damn well place. What was that thing?

He says in the chanel Chanelle.

I have no idea what she was talking about. YEA straining the sauce and.

Right anyway, So then very cute Lurlai calls you and you say I'll be right there, and just very cute mm hmm.

Yeah, that's him, that's the guy. So then, but it's also like it's a great opportunity for him to get out of his diner totally and to do some real cooking, which I'm sure he was looking forward to doing.

Yeah, and take command of that kitchen.

And really I enjoyed Luke out of the diner.

Scenes, Yeah, and you very much. That's why I'm like, own, did like Luke go to like cooking school or the Cordon blue that I missed, because like, you totally know what you're doing in there.

I know duck, Yeah, I know how to do duck. No big deal. What did he do before he had? Maybe he went to cook.

He might have gone to cooking school, like.

Maybe somewhere in Hartford or something.

Does anyone in this room meaning us, like duck?

Oh, god, baby, duckling is wonderful. Wonder There was a place in New York City I used to go to when I lived there almost once a week, and they the best Wisconsin duckling. It was just no, oh, it was scrumptious.

Yeah, it sounds very expensive, Like it doesn't feel like you're going to like get duck on a you know, like the way like I go, And I'm like, at the I don't know, in the country mark like duck seems so fancy and expensive.

I've had fault class in Paris and it's just way too fatty for me, like, and it's just horrible, horrible.

Yeah, well, look, what's the point of living in New York if you're not going to go to the great restaurants. There's a ton of them.

What's that?

Who cares how much it is? It's like, it's great. I'm a foodie. It's great food.

What's that appetizer that's liver that people think is so fancy? It's so oh god, the worst, horrible, horrible.

Dam and snails.

Oh sure you have to, you got it.

Yeah, come on, it's great stuff, prepared properly and served well.

So okay, we go back to the dorm room, which still I'm still kind of like Logan's dorm room is not great. But and there's a girl there and immediately Rory's got the face she's super mad because she knows deep down too. And then we realized it's Logan's sister. And I thought they were adorable.

I thought they got it really humanized him for me. Yeah, I loved the relationship with a sister. It made me want to give Nick a brother. And yeah, yeah, what are you doing tonight? And it was really great that he had that bright, shining light of a sister and that she was so good in that scene. And she's such a terrific actress, and she had a totally roll and she was being engaged and she was excited and she really.

Leans on her baby brother and oh yeah, they really have each other's backs. Thought that was super cute. I just love them.

Yeah.

I also noticed there was like a random photo of the Golden gate Bridge in Logan's dorm room, which maybe some expert knows why, but I thought that was interesting.

They probably owned the San Francisco Chronicle.

Actually good one.

I thought it was interesting that she was like, I covered you and you sink that yeah, off the coast and I got sandrape or whatever it was.

And it's a call back.

It's a callback to when we learn from Doyle. I thought that was really funny that we learned from Doyle about the yacht, and then here we got like three more boat things too, because he's like, drive our boat fun just not other boats, you know, Like there's a lot of callbacks to that. We also learned he had a huge crush on a Lissa Milana, which I enjoyed so we also start to learn like.

Uh, when he was a boy.

Yeah, when he was younger, and and Honor invites by sorry to the dinner exactly.

And we learned that the Huntsburgers are not the nicest. The nicest parents on the block is maybe what I'll say. They sound stressful.

Yeah, but the mother was was was fantastic. She was so kind of out of it. And obviously she was on some kind of medication that made her space out a little bit, but she was so nice. She was so phony, nice but saying the most horrible things and it was just a really.

So yeah, she plays that perfectly. But I love Leam Hunley, like do you. I don't know if Tara and Danielle did, but Scott Liam Hunley to me, I mean, she's done so many things. She's like major, Like if you guys look at her resume, it's legit. And I think she was in Dynasty, Like She's done a ton of things, and she plays that character perfectly. Just like you said, she does seem a little uh something, and then how she's sneaking out to smoke so great, like literal.

So great. So it's okay, it's so so out of it just like I live in this world with this man and with all this.

So okay. One little note in the scene in the dorm room with Logan and Rory an Honor, did anybody see how cute Rory's outfit and tights were, Like, she's so cute with Logan and all put together in the whole thing.

She was wearing, like what are those called fishnets?

But she was like, yeah, see you notice too.

No I didn't notice it. I just like and even part of the dinner scene, which we'll get too soon, she was she's just so doting on like all of these hunts Burgers, you know what I mean. It's like I didn't buy it that much in the sense of oh my god, look at the ceiling of your house or oh my god, like you know, I don't know.

It's just like too, like she has.

That in her right in her blood already. So why why is this such a big deal? I guess is when I get that.

That's a good point. They're very rich, but the Huntsburgers are a whole level above.

Oh yeah, yeah.

They make the Gilmours look like yeah, I'm like, even if you're okay, so say this, even if you have a nice house, but you go to like a nicer house, You're still gonna be like Wow. Yeah, I'm not I'm gonna have her back on it. I'm not mad at her yet. And she's noticing the art.

I mean, yeah, you can be like wow, beautiful house, but like just like oh my god, Like she's like as if she's never stepped into a nice house before, Like she goes there to a nice house every Friday night.

Like she has me jaded to a certain extent.

That place was pretty spectacular.

I do see what you're saying.

Though she's a little bit uh, she's too like uh like a puppy dog.

Yeah, I could see that.

Or yeah, what's the word for that. She's a little bit un Rory, Like she's a little Scott. How would you describe how Rory acts with Logan. It's like, I'm not mad at it. It's very deferential to him. What is it?

It's kind of just like I think she still pictures herself like below him, even though her grandparents are Gilmore's. Like she even says at the end of the episode, like but I'm a Gilmore right, which means something. But like, how come when she walked in basically, I think sorry to go ahead, No, no, go ahead.

I think she did not expect that though. I think she walked in thinking she was going to crush that room, like parents freaking love me, I'm gonna nail this. He was more nervous than her.

Right was that was Yeah, they set us up for that joke, yes, or that turn of events because she said, I got this, I'm used to this. And then she goes in and she's gushy, so yeah.

Yeah, and she's sort of like, I know how to deal with this, like my mom, you know, basically has the same parents as you. And she's making the small talk and she's being so charming, and then they gut her. They got her.

It was gnarly, but I thought she handled herself very well, totally an obviously uncomfortable situation for everybody else that she didn't you know.

She hadn't figured out yet what the heck was going on, so she just was being, you know, a polite and little chatty. Wanted to get things get rolling, you know, and do you Yeah, I thought she handled her very well. She did show that she she had learned from all those Friday night dinners.

You know, do you get the vibe that this show wants to convey the uber rich as sort of terrible people, because think about this, the are pretty bad. The grandpa and Missus Huntsburger are Mister Huntsburger so far doesn't seem as bad, but we learn later Christopher's parents were terrible. Remember when they come over and start the full brawl with the Gilmours. The Gilmours, I love them, love them

Above Laura Lay But okay, so that so what does it take to get that rich if you come from nothing? Let's assume Mitcham Huntsburger comes from nothing. He was a journalism student, you know, at Northwestern. So he's a smart kid.

Like, I get where you're coming from, and we haven't seen the dark side of Mitcham yet.

But like, wait a minute, if you if you're Christopher's dad and you see what your son turned out to be, you wouldn't be pissed off. Give me a break.

I just s don't know that. I'd be so gross.

What do you mean? What are you talking about?

You?

That's your son?

Okay, but think about this, Scott, think about that.

So you so you either so you either you know, screw them up further by being you know, a d bag, or or you you compassionate and you kind of try to help them. But these that's not that generation. That's they they it's like, what's wrong with you? They think there's something wrong to me?

Ask you this way?

Right?

Yeah, for fancy rich people, I believe, no matter what they're thinking, they would never and Emily and Richard are they They don't do this in public. They behave properly. I think it's a little bit crazy to think that the grandpa and missus Huntsberger are going to act like that to Rory's face. I'm not saying it was.

It was a little too direct, right and just like.

Talking like all that in front of her, like to me, those people, but.

That's the show. But that's the style of the show. The show is dialogue. It's words, right. It's not a film where they can be subtle about it, right, right. They can do it with you know, the nod of head or a couple of looks. This is a TV show that is that has verbiage, so they have to do it with words. So they hit you in the face with words, and these characters say the words.

Well, and without it, we wouldn't have such a magnificent scene that we're all going to talk about ad nauseum. It just was like, I mean, Danielle Tara, like, are you ever going to go to a dinner with your boyfriend and the parents are going to act like that? Like I can't, that's like what.

My in laws couldn't be more opposite.

I feel I would run. I would like, if that's what the first date with the boyfriend's parents are, like, I would be like, we're I can't do this.

That's interesting, you know, like in that situation, I would the one thing I didn't. And I guess I get it because it's like she's in college, like you know, it's not like you're a full grown adult and can prove yourself. I mean, you can't do that at nineteen years old. But she's probably intimidated. But like I wish, part of part of me wishes that Rory stood her ground and was like, you know what, I am a

I am an awesome person.

You know.

Like I just wish she just like did something like that instead of just having them literally bulldoze her over like she was bull dozed, and like, I just wish, I don't know, part of me just wishes she just like kind of gave him a little zing with being a little respectful and walked away, you know, like.

She just I don't know.

I also wonder if it would have made a difference if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend for a longer period of time before meeting the parents, Like, would she have stood up with would she have stood up for herself if like her and Logan were officially a couple for like two three months rather than like two three days.

I don't think. I don't know. I think that would have been so awkward if that really happened, that you would play it exactly the way they did, because you just are like, you know what, I'm not going to overstep here. I'm gonna let my boyfriend handle this at the end of the day. I'm not related to these crazy people.

And why did they jump all over Rory though that was just the first time they'd met her and they were just started dating. I mean, so what he brings her to dinner to meet the family? To them, that was a serious move, right.

Yes, they feel on that he's never called someone his girlfriend. He's marrying this girl he is in college.

You know, Well, that's what I was gonna say that It made me think of him not being able to commit, Like, Logan's not the guy to commit, and maybe he knew that this deep down, he knew this would happen, like.

He That's what I'm wondering. What do you guys think on that, all of you? Did he know that this could go this way? Or was he completely like gobsmacked as they say that his parents liked.

No, No, I think he kind of expected it.

Yeah, because he says to himself like Josh is different, Like because Rory asked about like why don't they care about the guy that doesn't talk speak a word? And he's like, because he's not the heir to the family business, you know, Like, so he is on a different pedestal even within his own family.

Right.

Maybe maybe Logan did it intentionally to get Rory to back off. No, maybe he knew. Maybe he's so diabolical in his I get this was a way to create distance, like here's here's my getaway plan.

No, she love me as much. I could believe that except for the final scene. No, because he comes back and he's so darling, and I mean.

Look, he could be a master manipulator. Who knows Logan way to get her back on the uh, you know, on the rotation, right, just add her to the rotation. She'll go back into the rotation. After this horrible dinner and I want to have to deal with and then I can see all the other girls. All I have to do is take one of them to dinner and it freaks them out and they just go back into rotation because I got this every time. Can you you think Rory is the first girl to demand a boyfriend girlfriend?

He's the first one? He said, Yes, that's what he said.

It's not necessarily true.

No, it's true because I know he might.

Be I'll tell you he might be a real operator.

That goes Tara, What was your question that I want to ask you?

So I have a question because may you think about it at the end? So the grandfather was the one who really brought it up, not even the mom. Do you think that Mitcham? Because Mitcham was like what happened? Like let me find out? Like he walked in kind of just like what's going on? Do you think Mitcham knew what the father was going to ask?

Or do you even said that Logan was like you know exactly what happened?

You think knew that this is what the dinner was going to do.

Yes, Mitcham's a jerk plant pretending to be a good dude.

He did, Yeah, and we got to talk about the last scene.

Yeah, but look what look at look at the grandfather, look at what his dad is so so Mitcham learned it from him?

Is that his dad or her dad? I think it's his dad because it's his And the mom is so like the reason she's so medicated and smoking is she's so like the nerves sold by these people, the nerve girl.

What happened to what was maybe maybe maybe maybe they were talking about Mitcham's wife when they were talking to Rory, because this one slipped in and she's not appropriate and hell for her and for us, she's not one of us. She smokes, she's on medication, she's she's going to therapy. You know, she can't handle this and we don't want this to happen again.

Yeah, she seems a little stepfordy, like, you know when she's like hmm, oh, Emily doesn't know how to throw a party, and then she just goes back to like frozen face and she's like oh yes, Like first of all, they're tight with the hunt with the Gilmours, like Richard fully knows logan, so she was so pod like when she's like, oh, yes, that's right, you're Emily's grandmother. And then you find out they know everything. They know everything

She's just trying to get through another night dealing with Mitcham's affairs at his office. He knows she knows what he's doing back at the office late for dinner. It's like, oh.

God, let me ask you this. And this is really a question to everyone listening for the logan haters, does this episode make you hate him less?

Hmmm?

It regards to like him to wash because because he does the right thing every step of the way. Yes, I understand he Hemden had in the beginning, but he does say okay, I'm going to be your boyfriend. I'm gonna do this right. Then he's so cute and wonderful with his sister. Then he does take Rory there first of all his Porsche.

By the way, Oh my god, oh my god.

I love him so much. I was just like, I want to be in that Porsche. I want to be at this dinner, even if they bring me a shred. I don't care. So then he does the right thing. He fully leaves with her. Then yes, he's sort of so shook by everything that happened that he goes for a walk. But he comes back like criticizing, my guess, but like, what did he do? Like he's kind of doing the right thing all around here.

I feel like people will argue that he should have known what like Rory was like throwing, right, he was throwing Rory like into like the lines that you know.

She was getting thrown.

He didn't invite her, his sister invited her. He just obviously said yes, come, and he was doing it for a sister. His sister asked him to be there to help her out.

So yeah, but I feel like he also could have been like, maybe this isn't the time. Like I could see both sides.

I can see him not wanting to reveal what his family's really like to because you don't talk down your family.

Right, But they kind of talked about that on the way over, you know, like and she was like, I am no stranger to crazy family, Like I got this, I do this every Friday, you know, Like he did kind of give her a warning.

Yeah, that was a different level of crazy Yeah, that was that was just you know what I really and it was hysterically funny.

You know what I really need right now is a Emily Richard Huntsberger showdown. I need it so bad and I hope it's coming up in the next episode.

Yeah good, it's happening.

You know, you know, you get something.

When Emily, sorry not Emily, when Rory tells Richard, like you know, Richard's gonna defend Rory until the end of time, right, and.

They're gonna be so pissed they are going to.

Be don't don't tell I'm taking the earphones.

I'm saying. If I didn't know what was going to happen, imagine Emily and you're finding out that the Huntsburgers, they're alleged friends and I use quotes attacked their grand.

Ye we all know, and she wasn't good enough.

Now, if I may, Emily has done that to Jess and Dean at Friday Night, and.

I did want to put I did want to say this today. It is really interesting now that you know, justin Dean are behind us, their last episodes, you know, are over. It is quite interesting that Rory is now in their shoes.

Her like Hi, you know fanciness. She's not fancy enough. It's all scales of richiness.

Do you think that Logan is like Laura Lai and he's looking for a star's hollow?

No, no, too much.

I like that you're putting that out there, Scott, because I like what you're saying. I think he likes that she's so smart. That's what I think he's completely because look, she's very darling and beautiful, and I know he's attracted to her. But the girl knock knocking at the door was like a smoke show. So my thing's like he is intrigued by her, her personality, her smart, her ping pong that she does with him verbally, her you know, standing up to him. So I think he likes her.

So I want to take back my comment. I just googled that just does come back in season six.

So ignore that. You thought Jess was gone.

I thought Jess was done, and you were right with what you said.

He's behind us for now. That's fine.

Yeah, So okay, let's go back for a minute because we do need to talk about Paris and Doyle for a second, and the and the Salve salve, salve, the homemade sad, and.

That was literally vix like that's what they were alluding to, Like maybe in Mexican, I can say this. My grandma put that on me every time I was sick. You just get it right on the chest and on the feet, and it worked.

Miracles that Paris sees that Rory stood up and did what she needed to do. They stopped being like the drunk girls complaining and they're telling these guys what they want, and so Paris follows in Rory's footsteps. So I thought

I think Laura lies letting Rory find her own way and is letting her make her own mistakes.

Scott, what do you think?

Great scene?

Uh?

Really great scene? Uh, Laurela, I biting the pillow was funny. Yeah, I agree with Danielle. You know, she's just gotta let her make her own way and she's going to make some mistakes.

Well, she's holding she's holding her tongue because Rory asked her to. But then when Rory calls her to tell her what happened and she finally gets to say her piece, And I thought this was a very fast paced scene, but it had the most important thing. She's basically saying to Rory, like, why are you trying to change this guy? Like all the thing that Rory's trying to do and think she's achieving and you know, this horrible dinner And she's like, but I'm a Gilmore and she says, I'm

She's too young, right, but she's just too young to be able to play cards, you know, she's she's too young to to bluff like that. She's got to be real, you know, you're.

Right, she's twenty something. She doesn't know. This is such a disaster.

What good advice though, to be honest, but totally if he's gonna go, just let him, like, let him, let him.

I think that was really good advice.

It's the only move.

There because she's so whatever the word is and love smitten, whatever it is that when he comes to the door, and yes, I admit, when Logan comes to the door, he says all the right things and she immediately forgets how upset she was. And this is like such a pattern of like twenty something women that you're like, oh, he said sorry, I'm good. Like he's hurt her twice, he didn't text her for a week or two. She's

Where are they? No, he didn't do that. He apologized. He really felt maybe he felt really bad about putting her through that he made a bad decision by inviting her. He felt terrible about it, and he came back and he apologized and he meant it. It seemed like he meant it, and he said let's go to dinner. I agree, but anything, I thought that was a classy move on me too, I thought, And she had every you know, what else could she do?

But you know, like the guy, I don't know. That's where I have the question for you, Scott. It's like, I agree, he did everything perfect.

I have no.

She's a very compassionate person. She must understand the pressure that he's under and she's going to help him through it. And I think that's maybe one of the main attractions that he has for her, that maybe this is the one that's going to nurse made me through this right experience because I don't know if I'm going to take over the family business or if I want to, and it's going to be painful, and I need a friend to get me through that. And the right partner to get me through that.

Yes, that's a great point, a really good point that he's probably is thinking, this is the person that can that I should pick.

Right on the other because on the other side of the upside that when I tell my dad I'm not going into the family business, I want to go on my own, then Rory's my girl's gonna she's not gonna judge me for it.

And she's sort of right. She's sort of the opposite of missus Huntsburger.

Because every other girl he's dating, once they find out he's not taking over the family business, they don't call him anymore.

Does any of you feel though danger Will Robinson like this is so potentially bad for Rory and this is me who loves Logan more than anything.

Yeah, I mean, I think going back to what you said Amy about like why is she when picking up the dress, like she's like, oh, not a word like to Laurai, I think she wanted like a I told you so moment and Lourai being on the phone when Logan comes and her listening and be like did you hear that? That was Rory's I told you moment? Like I told you he's a good guy.

Right, what a position to be in? Take her there army dynasty or to go off branch out on your own.

Yeah, it's just rough. That's why I love this episode so much because it's so complicated and like we had a fun Luke Lorelai like that all was fun. Luke really steps up. He's the perfect boyfriend. They have the funny scenes together. They she's making the dirty jokes in the kitchen, he's doing the amazing cooking. He saves the day's I do actually have a question, though, what's the real deal with Sukie and Luke? They're so combative.

Rifle chefs.

I think she knows that Luke's a good chef.

Right, I think she senses how tough yeah he is.

She's she admits it at the end with the pork chops and he's like, I gotta study these.

They're so dang good.

Because you know, now you know Luke and Laurlie are together. So he's a real threat to her long term employment, right, maybe who knows what they're talking about.

It did stress me out. She didn't figure out her back up though, Like when when Laurel I was like, oh, did you send the.

Plan right, I'm doing that right now, two months in advance.

But is it hard to believe that there's not one person that she employs in that kitchen that could handle some basic instructions.

Well, I think.

Over to somebody and talk them through it. I would have solved the whole thing.

And I think she's a control freak, so she's not going to hand it over to anyone.

And she was handing it over to Laurel I to write down instructions, tell who's goo in the in the kitchen, how to do things, you know, And in the.

End, Manny is the one who's going to take over. And Manny was like, we could have like what she could have been training him for six months, but whatever, right, She's Yeah. That being said, I do kind of love the scene with you and Jackson because even though essentially you're right, Suki's so unhinged and making you doing her a solid, and that's what nobody seems to be remembering, like, you're doing these people a solid. You left your own business in the hands of somebody else to come over

His wife was like totally, I'm like golf cart back home that they stole.

But wait, Scott, that must have been fun to kind of go like at it with Jackson, Like it's that was a good scene. We haven't really seen you guys do before.

Well I didn't have to say anything. He just sip it all over my neck and left. Yeah, I said, listen, Yeah, I mean I loved it all.

Like that's the thing. The B story was as good as the A story in this, and the C story was as good as the A and the B. So then we get to the end where I'm just like, oh god, ugh, what do we think? Like would you take the internship? Like his argument is kind of correct, but it's.

Just he's it's so blatantly obvious that he's doing this to put them apart.

That's what I thought, get her out of town.

Yeah, He's like, it's only a train ride away, right, you know, it's like ding ding ding red flags?

How did she not see them?

Like?

That is where you.

Know, he's showing his cards.

Emily, He's crazy like a fox. He's doing all the crazy stuff to like get what he wants out of it, just like Emily does.

He's not like break up with me. A little bit different from Emily because Emily's like break them up. But Mitcham's like, you should go to this internship. It's like kind of he's not saying he did.

I mean, it's like almost the equivalent of Emily going to Christopher's house and being like, yeah, if you want, yeah.

You gotta do it now.

You know, Like the parallels between the Huntsburgers and the Gilmours are like bananas, bananas, because I guarantee you Emily and Richard are gonna be so pissed about this and have absolutely no memory that they did this exact same thing many a couple times. And it's just like, oh.

My god, do you think she considered it at the very Like the second time he asked and said, yeah, the would you still take an opportunity? What was it that he said? Exactly?

Like basically, even if he's offering it because he feels guilty about dinner, so the hell? What?

Yeah?

Who cares? How you got it. It's been handed to you. See you Monday bring up.

But see, that's how he treats Logan like he walked in. He's like, I know better than my son being in the newsroom like he has this he has a gig on the paper, but like he's going to actually be here. It's what he does to his own kids.

They treat Logan like poop. And that's why Logan acts out because they it's I don't know how to say it, like they assume he's gonna screw it up, so he does what Look, Scott, what do you think of mitcham.

I love him.

He's a good villain. I'm not gonna lie.

He's such a good actor.

Is amazing.

He's just so solid.

He's in so many good things. He's so good so many things.

And it's just such a great character because it's easy to like him and you know you're not supposed to like him, and he's just he's just a man. Then that's a that's a forceful talent right there.

I'm excited to see how he plays out in this.

Yeah, I am too. I want to see more of him. Yeah, I like this whole Huntsburger thing. I want to see more of that. That's that's a great show right there that I keep thinking, you know, the Gilmore Show or the Huntsburgers, they could have spun that up totally.

Can you imagine, you know, the hat Fields and the you know the hat Fields and the McCoy's, you can totally have that with the Gilmours and the and the Huntsburgers.

God, I wonder what I just man, that would have been something in that show?

Do you guys?

Huh?

Like, did we cover everything? I feel like it's like there's so much to unpack in this episode, but I feel like I kind of got there.

Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we I think we did it. The end the Jackson Uh funny scene, funny scene, the funny scene melauralized walking by the cart. Yeah, yes, Jack's driving Suki home in the cart.

You know. I throw a flag on the play. And I've mentioned this about the Gilmours before. What's the deal with ringing the doorbell at your own house? When Logan and or just open it, just open it. You freaking live there, And they do it at the Gilmour's too. The only time I ever ring my mom's doorbell is if the door is locked for some reason and I don't have the key, like it's your own house.

The only thing you can think of is like their standard is the maid answers the door and like brings you into the foyer and like, you know, like, yeah, it's a little more proper.

I was gonna say if Glory like I, I knock on my grandparents' door, like for Rory, but for Logan it's different because it's his parents' house, so.

It's like his house where he grew up. Like Rory ringing the doorbell at lower Lies weird.

Yeah, they needed to have that scene with a sister before they walked in, so that's how you bring her out. Yeah, you know that he could have done a thing like oh god, I don't have my kiy shoot after ring you know, at least cover it. But you're right to throw a flag. You are right to throw a flag. Yeah.

And then my only call out too was I love those I don't know what they're called. I always call them dragon dogs. They're like dragons slash dogs there and they're on top of the fireplace. And I used to have one and I dropped it. Yeah, if you watch the scene in their house above the fireplace. They have these like I'm sure they're not called dragon dogs. They're not called that.

That's just what I said, you know. Listen, Let's go back to Rory's gushy nature when she walked into the household. Listen, I you know, we've all been in these house types of houses before, and I you know, I remember, and I was, you know, I wasn't a teenager. I was,

Yeah, can you No, I agree with you. And also, if you're trying to impress people, right, and you're not going to be gushy.

You want to be a you. You want to you want to be positive, you want to be and she is and she's there, it's like she like you know her, she she played her cards and she won the hand and now she's in the house. I mean, she didn't expect to be there so fast, right, I love.

No one offers her a drink and then Logan goes to get it, and then she thinks it's alcohol and she's all, Logan, I don't think, and he's all, it's club. So to Ace, I mean.

It should have been alcohol.

She was starting like real nervous.

Uh.

Does everybody have favorite lines?

I liked when the Paris I don't your prima like, I don't like thick people.

I also like they say to Paris, everyone's talking about throwing up and vomiting, and she's like, can everybody stop saying vomiting?

I don't.

I love that whole mess, with the abbas abbas and the tacos and the whole thing.

Mine was when Paris is or not Paris. Rory Is is talking to log and.

Telling her, telling him that she is not a you know, a casual dater, and and he starts asking her questions and she's like, I need a taco.

Hang.

That was one of the good ones.

I mean, I still will say, even though I had many, in this one, you landed the whale. You're a net betting. I mean that was like, oh, also, did you see who said it? I can't remember when someone says it might have been you. Why don't you go watch Ellen dance around?

Oh yeah yeah in bedroom right.

So rad Yeah, she's not dancing no more.

Last couple of seasons she didn't either, so.

She stopped dancing because we were like bad backers.

Yeah.

I used to watch it, just put it on the background. I was like, oh, she stopped dancing like the last three seasons.

Yeah.

Also, I love Lamb chops. I just have to say that, Scott.

I do too.

Yeah, I feel bad for the Lambs, but I do. I watch poison. I watch Poisoned. You guys, I said it. I watched poison and it makes me not want to eat again. But it's fine.

I will well, okay, why do you? Why do you watch those things? So good? So I just enjoy our lamb and our steak please.

For sure, God's sake?

All right? Uh? Oh yeah, what was your favorite line?

I said it? I said that, but I still say that at betting one.

I like the Michelle lying about ain't no mountain high enough in the kitchen.

Oh yeah, yeah yeah all right, So what do we give this guys?

Oh, come on, it's it's go ahead, It's daniel go ahead. I'm sorry.

Nine out of ten, Tacos.

My, nine out of ten, club.

Sodas, ten out of ten Lamb chops.

Amy, you should have said abbas, abbas, Oh yeah, got on.

You don't get a second bite at the ample. She committed to Lamb chops. And that's what it shall be. Uh, And I'm gonna give it ten out of ten Mitchem, Huntsbergers, Velasquez.

Good one, good one. What's next?

What is next? It's episode twenty, Oh my god. And the title is something that's really really interesting if it's it's how many crow POGs to cape cod? Oh? Yes, yes, crow POGs? Is that like as the crow flies?

I don't know what a crow pog is that?

You know? All right? So that's season five, episode twenty. God, we're almost at the end of season five anyway. That is going to wrap it up. Thanks everybody, Tara Danielle Amy always amazing and best fans on the planet. Thank you so much everybody for downloading your cards and letters. Keep them coming. We love them on the potty, we read them on the potty. We love to read them on the potty like Amy does, and we will remember we I am all in, Stay safe.

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