I Don't Like Babies (S4 E18 "Tick, Tick, Tick Boom”)

I was going into my third week with it. Yeah. Last night wasn't first night I didn't take night. Will oh shut up? And I and I woke up this morning thinking it was Saturday and I had to get Nick to karate. No, he literally did not know day. That's a good feeling sometimes though, when it's like summer and you're like, I don't know where I am. Yeah. Wait, okay, I have a very fun question that Danielle and I just thought of because Danielle and I are together again.

We have a question for you guys. Everyone has to say the Gilmore girl's character that they are most similar to m in real life? Are boy that's a good question you Uh, Tara, that's a hard one. Not like I can't think of anyone who I'm like exactly alike. Yeah, same, Like my gut says to say, Rory, but I'm definitely not like Rory. Then I'm like maybe Lane, but then I'm not like Lane. I think a combo between Rory

and Lane is my answer. I was good. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, I feel like I'm a little bit of Rory, but not like, like, not fully like Rory. I feel like mine is so braggy. If I say it, it's gonna sound like I'm so literally love her. I want to be her. I think I am her. You guys dressed the same like Lor. I literally go on I literally go on eBay and try and buy her clothes, everything, everything in the house, everything, And I love her personality. I think it's mine. And then I do feel like,

what's this saying? Art is imitating life? Yeah, Scott and Luke, I kind of agree. No, I'm nothing like that guy. What do you think? Who do you think you're like? I've got to recuse myself from this because I'm too close to it. I mean true, but I think you are. I think you are too. I love babies, and he walked in and he's hating on babies. I don't get it.

That part true, little pieces, that's garrouchy than him. But you're sarcastic as heck, and you're very funny like him, and you're also very caring, like, oh, it's true, Like maybe not thirty thousand dollars, but if I was like Scott, I need a thousand dollars to like put food on the table, I think you would do that. I have done that. Yeah, you see, I feel like you are your character too. Yeah, I do that kind I know, we know. That's why I think a lot of people do.

If Danielle goes into the slammer, I guess who she's going to call, just like you, Just like Luke when he had to go to the slammer, I'd bail you out. I would to build everybody on this zoom out. We would too, favorite favorite go to New York and commit the crimes because they have no bail laws. Is that true? You just get out? Yeah. Yeah, it's like crime is free. You can just do crime. That's wonderful. Should we talk about tick tick boom. There's one more tick in there,

tick tick tick boom. Why don't think it was only two ticks? Yeah? I think it a name three tick tick tick boom, because man, that was some fireworks. Just thought like something wasn't gonna happen, like something else kept happening, but you didn't you know it was coming. It was like this is all too good, this is everybody's having too good a time with each had me shook, especially when there was no music with it. Yeah, did you notice that? It was just like, yeah, I have to say,

this is one of the finer episodes. I agree, really terrific, and it's just like it's so you take it out of kid world, you put it in the adult world, and it's still firing on alls wanders. It's it's such a versatile show. The writing is so versatile. It's so good. Season season four is extraordinary. Yeah, so I agree, and I want to say that I fully agree with this person who messaged us that the best is coming the next like four episodes are in this It's just I'm

worried for Danielle. I know I'm stressed for you. How many we're on episode eighteen? How many are this season? Like twenty two. I think there's there's always twenty two. I think the first season we did four, I think, and then we did twenty two every year after that. So I have another question, which Danielle and I am

not gonna lie, we did talk about yesterday. So you know, on the previously on you see Digger without facial hair, and he does not look as good at all without facial hair as he does with agree, disagree, opinion, I agree, I agree, we agree. So we did a little game of other celebrities that look better with facial hair, and I'm going Chris Evans hard, Chris Evans amazing, and then I through this at her I'm like, I think every person looks better with facially. I disagreed with that. I disagree.

I disagree with that too, Thank you, Scott. I think Jake Jillenhall better without. I think it looks good with facial hair, but it's not good. It's better with or without. Have you noticed that facial hair is a a an American phenomenon. It's a really well French don't do it well. Look at European rockers and they don't have facial hair, but neither does John bon Jovi. And then Okay, then touche guys. Guys, we owe everybody a huge apology again.

Once again, I'll fall the sword because this was my fault. We totally forgot to mention the shins last week and I am so sorry. Everyone was like pissed and it was in my notes. I got distracted, like I don't know about the French toast or something, but yeah, my apologies anyway, apologic accepted. Thank you. Okay, should we get into this. I got so much to talk about. Let's rock and roll? Should I sit upsize? Yeah? Oh no,

it sounds like you already have our coal. Everybody through this. Okay, guys. This is season four, episode eighteen, tick Tick Tick Boom air date April four. Richard and Jason's business is in jeopardy after a threat by Jason's father, Floyd, plus a major reveal for Lorelai and Jason's relationship. But after the threat, another plan is set in motion to oust Jason. Meanwhile, Kirk disappoints Taylor because the town smells like rotten eggs, but Luke comes and saves the day. Seriously, that was

amazing of Luke. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. So Scott, was that a new angle, a new camera angle at the open? Yes, yes, I've never seen that. That sweeping shot, that's a film shot. I've never seen that before in Gilmore. That is not a Gilmore shot. It was great. It really was unusual to see that. Yeah, I noticed that too. It was really cool. I loved it. And then it kind of brought us into that table and guys, that was not a rubber baby. That was

a real baby. But you know, one thing, I noticed a lot of the scenes that they like when I saw that scene, I saw the edits because I and I wanted to ask you, Scott, did they film some scenes without a baby in the stroller and then cut to probably Yeah, so there was a bunch of takes without an actual baby in the show because you can't afford that baby. Then we'll cut off the stroller a

lot of the time because the babies aren't allowed to work. Well, I mean they've obviously cannot baby can were like no hour, like they that are you making that? I that's like the kid rule. It's a baby. I wonder if it's like thirteen to eighteen, it might be different for babies. They're not on set for if they're on set at all, it's not a rubber baby. If it's a real baby, then it's like they're not there very long. I always

thought eight hours was the rule rubber babies. You can have a rubber baby for a week, two weeks about the baby, I guess the answer. If this is correct, it's four hours a day. Guys, do you think anyone's listening right now? Going? What is wrong with all those people's voices? They literally sound like the nasal least, but it's going around. Everybody's got it, He's got it. Okay, Okay, I'm sorry, did grass Because I'm listening to Scott and then Daniel's got a little I think I have it

in the tower is coming in out with it. It's like, darn nasal episode number one, actually number four. It's like, can somebody get them a decongestion anyways? That is called a decongestent. I don't. I don't do that. It makes me stress. Okay, So so why so hate a raid over the baby? I don't know. It's just made me very uncomfortable. I did not enjoy that aspects. Yeah, it doesn't also seem accurate, it doesn't. It really doesn't you

know what, You're right, it feels off totally. That's why you hated it because it's like, no, he doesn't hate babies. It's maybe he just wants one. It's too extreme, but to hate and to hate on somebody's baby in front of the mother and father, but he hates babies. True? Who hates babies? Nobody? I mean, that's just weird and like you're so mean to them, like order fast and get out of here. No proprietor is doing this. Anybody anybody that hates babies. It's just deranged, you know, and

he's not. He's not deranged so at all. He doesn't. Here's the thing. He doesn't hate babies. So it's just like what but I mean, you know he's skulking around his diner like you got a minute or you're out of here, get rid of the baby. I mean, what kind of a person is that? It's like who says that to anybody? What are the customers and their small town and they're all friends and everybody knows each other.

You know, she has a baby, is not celebrating the baby reluctantly made There's been like a million babies before that baby. He doesn't hate babies like Suki's baby, like shows some respect, like it's not a random person's baby, it's Sukians and Jackson's right, all right, that was just like them trying to be funny. But what else It wasn't Taylor's tupe so bad? It was good? Why is it a different color that when he turned around and

it was like black? And then like, although it make him look a little more youthful, that bit was so funny because it was that was funny because everyone talking about it and he's just like I came back from the Caribbean, just like not being able to answer his question and just staring at it. Sorry again, so good? And then yeah, eggs stink, guys, eggs do? I don't think I ever realized that, Like I might have pulled a kirk in that situation. Have you never been in

a kitchen when someone's making eggs salad? Yeah? Yeah, but smell different. Rotten egg smelled different than hard boiled eggs. But I'm thinking they were hard boiled. But they were hard boiled then turned rotten. It's been three weeks for two weeks, right, and they stink? Why would you make an egg hunt with raw eggs. Nobody does that. They're all hard boiled. I don't think that they did do it with raw eggs. They did it with hard boiled eggs. Boiled, yeah,

it is, they go bad too. Hard boiled is the stinkiest stink. But I think I would have thought like Kirk, like, oh, they're just like an animal will eat it, you know what I mean? Like like because Kirk's holding was, oh, just decomposed. Like that's what I would ask question. Would they decompose? Who wants a hard boiled egg and leave it in their yard for like three weeks? Absolutely not, Scott, do you want to do that? No? Absolutely, Sara, looks like it's you girls, hard boiled eggs in the fridge

right now? Can you leave one in your yard? Do you think your parents will care? Really confused? Do it? Dude? Let's see and dangerous animals as well, like coyotes. I'm going to attract the coyote memelal rotten eggs, you think? So? I don't know raccoons. Are you going to try it or not? I'm not in my neighborhood. No, that's not you know, I'd get a letter from the if you

really chicken out. I might do it, but I think an animal will eat it, and they're going to eat it before it goes right, the rats would come out and nibble. Yeah, I'm more afraid of like rodents than like the smell. Same had be Groundhog Day, y'all did we miss that? Is it good? Is it eight more? Is it eight or six more weeks in winter? I don't know, but six Deans moving that shelf around pe. See now I'm rooting now, I'm rooting for the two

of them. Now it's not so inappropriate anymore because it's like the damn has broken on that and Rory Scott, you're so hilarious. I agree, it's before it was inappropriate. Now it's like they're meant to be together. You kidding me? I disagree. No, he loves her man, they love each other. At the end of this episode, I was like, Dean, I'm very upset with you right now, but he's realizing that he's happy. It's wrong. But yeah, but but if love and you was wrong, I don't want to be right.

That's right, Scott, thank you. No, I literally have a really bad taste in my mouth after this episode with Mr Dean. We'll get to that, but out in the doocees with Lindsay so much to talk about. Okay, so we'll get to that. So so Dean's moving the thing around and now Lindsay bops in and they seemed real happy. Why she kind of she kind of bugged me when she walked and like, why is she always at his work? Like always I'd be so peas and be liked because

because Rory's around. Well, no, Rory wasn't there. That was at the end. That's right, gonna be around. She's picking up on him, she's checking. Yeah's just like she's just always. First of all, why are they married. They're nineteen years old at most twenty they have no business to be married. Sorry, if you got married at twenty anybody. It works for

some people, but this clearly is is not the right move. Also, like she's I mean not to jump ahead of it Rory at a point when it's like, what's what's Lindsay doing If Sean has to pay for the townhouse? We'll get there, we'll get to it now. Funny line when when loril I said Annett and Frankie really found each other, I have no idea what that's shut up, shut up. You have Franklin Blanket bingo exactly, Scott, What is wrong with these youngsters? You don't know a net and rank?

They didn't grow up with it, you know, my god, you gotta grow up with it. You know. It always makes me think of that. So did you ever see the movie stand by Me? No? Oh my god? Scott asked me about spy kids, asked me about any Mary Kane Ashley movie. I got you there, Scott. What do we do with them? I don't know? Alright, So we got the whole thing going on. At the end we were talking about the greatest Mouseketeer of all times. I think I was just I literally had a whole Mouseketeer thing.

Was the greatest mouse you know there was there was a mouse gteers before j C and Justin and I knew that. Did you know that? Like the Mickey Mouse Club? Yeah, that's a net get your way? And do you know the movie Greece? Of course? Do you know Beauty School Dropout? Yes? Beauty School? Yeah, it's a song that's Frankie Avalon. Oh god, I got it. It's a song when uh what's her name with the red hair is singing and She's like, it's like beauty school drenching. Go back to Frenchy. There

we go. There were all these what were these movies on the late fifties, early sixties, mid sixties, there were all these beach movies with Frankie Avalon and means nothing and they all shot him out at Sir Fryder Beach out in Malibo. Yeah, Scott, it's fine. At least we have each other. So then we go to Friday night dinner and the whole anvil thing was hilarious. But what isn't Annville? I have no idea what, Scott? Do you know that? Of course I know what an ant villa that?

I don't know what was it? It's an anvil is something that? Yeah, like she said, in the Old West, all the all those uh dudes that made the horse shoes banged him out on top of anvil's It's it's a massive iron or uh kind of a table, but it's got a sharp edge on a point on one end. Oh, they're just bearing on top of it. It's just this big iron ore platform. Easton's description of it is bugs bunny drops it on people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I got you now. I got you now, all right? All right?

And then I thought interesting, Okay, so they're having this funny conversation at dinner and there was a mention of metro sexual. I remember when that was like a real term. Yeah, when guys actually cared about their hygiene, you'd be like, you're so metro Yeah, that was the whole thing that's gone now. Yeah, I think they cared a little bit more about more than hygiene. No one says that word. I think that word is done. Let me get my

notes out, peeps, look at my notes. Unbelievable. All right. Oh, this is where we find out at the dinner that Richard and Digger have acquired Bob, Yes, and that Bob has a trophy wife, which I'm a little bitter about that we never saw the trophy wife. I really wanted to see who, Like, I agree with Barbie, we're going to be at the dinner. I was really looking forward to. Can we just talk about layalized complete inability to be involved in a conversation for their parents in any real

way other than mocking everything they say. You're so right, it's funny. It's not funny, but it's it does seem a little out there. It's totally her coping mechanism. It's just how she gets through the dinners. She must have such anxiety. That was my favorite line when she's like when Richard was like, the girls aren't about the big news and loyalized like you're pregnant, and he's like and then he's like, we're crying another company and she's like,

I was close. Like that was my favorite line. Oh god, it's so good. But yes, Scott, if if, if I'm going to take you serious for a minute here, You're right, everything is Penny Penny, sarcasm, sarcasm, Penny Joe. But it wouldn't be the show without it, right, I love it, and it's and it's kind of neat that it's now. She doesn't do that with you, and she doesn't do

that with or the time. She does correct, but she can have very real correct correct but she really can have real conversations with both of you and Suki for that matter. Right, it's rare. She just never does with her parents. How much longer is Richard's mustache lasting, probably throughout the movie he's also working on during this season of Gilmour Girls. That's my take on that he's got a second project. Wait, do you like his? Do you like his facial hair? I don't. Richard looks better without

facial hair. Yeah, I agree, There you go. I'm trying to think of another one that looks better without Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, yeah, I give that. Yeah, like Mamoa with Jason Mamoa Mamoa just Eddie Manly. So then we go to the Candy Shoppy, my favorite. Literally that place is looking good too. It's I would definitely go in there, you would, Yeah, places the jam I wonder if he has yogurt. I'm sure he had ice cream? Right? Do you want it? Do you love? When you guys were at um Stars Hollow,

did they open up the Candy Shoppy? No? They show like each each store on that street was like a different like I think they had the names, but it was all stores to shopping. But they should have made a candy store. They should have. No, that was where the merch store was. That was the merch Yeah, they made they made Dozies Martin. The merch store was Dozies Market or not not Josie, but it was the candy shop. That's what merchant. Did you get? Did you get merch

I'm oh, let's see. Warner Brothers is no joke with the merch. They know what they're doing. Yeah, because it's like top quality merch. Like if people are listening and they want to spend a little money on a Gilmore Girls merch, just get it from Warner Brothers rather than like some of the knockoffs, because it's it's top not Yeah, there's a million knockoffs. I know, I've bought it all at Target in those places. But the Warner Brothers is better. Yeah.

Their legal department's going crazy every day. By the way, did it seem weird to anybody that it's already past Easter on the show? Yeah, I feel like, whoa. I mean, I know it's spring break, but they just had spring break. Springbreak can go between like March to April, Like we have a Valentine's Day. I know we never got Valentine's Day. Well there was like no one's well actually Bigger and warlike could have celebrated. Yeah, I'm Richard and Emily. I like that. You know. I think this was a tour

to force for for Kirk. This is my favorite, my favorite Kirk episodes just hysterically funny and also just Luke looking out for his boy. Yeah, we'll get to that. But we'll get to that. But okay, so we got a little golf first with Digger, who total whiffed it. Are you Are you better at golf, Scott than Digger? Everybody is. I'm just going to go ahead and mention

that Richard is not good either, well not at first. No. The first swing that that we see Richard do was it actually a really nice golf swing, but the ball didn't go anywhere. No, No, that was on the last one. On the last one, he duffed it. On the last one, he duffed it, he topped it. But on the first, first one, it looked like I didn't see where the ball went. I'm surprised when I watched it, I was like a surprised they showed where the ball went because

that was on the last one. On the last one. Yeah, yeah, that it was a horrible shot. Yeah, And then they tried to admire it, like I'm gonna have to You'll have to hit four golf shots to get up to you, Richard. The thing about a hundred yards, like I could have done better. Missed that, And I saw a Digger just with it. But yeah, and usually when when a guy whips it like that, you don't stand there and laugh

at him openly. Oh my god, you don't. God no, I mean if if if you're were your buddies and you know you're having a couple of beers and somebody whips then you crack up laughing. But yeah, I don't know in that situation, I don't know. I've definitely, in my like three times I played golf, have totally missed it. I can't do golf. I hate to brag, but I'm kind of good. Should we send you and Scott out for a round? You know what, Danielle and I should

play next year's Pebble Beach program. Oh yeah, we'll get you in because I saw some of those celebrities playing and they were stinking up the yard. Man, Oh my god. Make a good little top golf situation. Top I can hit it, daniel you can do that. I can do that. I can I can hit it. The four of us can go to top golf. Is there a California top Golf? Yeah, Scott, let's do it. Let's do it. So I didn't realize Carol and Emily were so biffles best friends for life?

What's Biffles again? Best friends for life? Tar? What's Biffles best friends for life? But have we what? We haven't seen them before? We haven't seen her before. But Floyd's just Floyd and Richard are talking about how they miss each other. So Floyd does all that just to be an ass. So he's just pretending all that knowing he's just going to drop the lawsuit bomb. Floyd's kind of an ass. No, No, he had a he had a strategy.

He's playing chess, so you think he knew going in that at the end he would get what he wanted, which was Richard back out. And I really do think the wife new too, because the second Carol heard, Carol was like, oh okay, yeah, and Emily was caught off guard. I felt so bad for her because I think she genuinely like loved being like, oh, entertaining happy, and they wanted Floyd and Carroll back and then oh god, we're not there yet. But it's just the outing of the

whole thing was horrendous. We do have to talk about how we got our first dinner outside on the patio. Yea, yeah, that was but like really like that, I think they had he lamps too, So okay, so Scott good, No, it's just okay. So you think that Floyd was very crafty and knew how this was all going to play. Oh, sure, that's why he was so confident in every single scene. He was in total control. He's not a sociopath. He's just a guy who's a smart one of his business. Right.

He just wanted Richard back? Ye did sorry? I say? At the end, I like, I was like, Oh, he totally had this all planned out, like he knew Yeah, wow, he played them both like that still really shook me. But did you see Digger and Richard making sandwiches? They didn't look there was like no mayo or mustard or anything on those sandwiches. They were just dry. They were so giddy with the possibilities of hap. That's when you knew they were being because they didn't really know what

the shot was. And I think you know the couda gras for what's his name? What's his Jason's dad's name, Floyd was when he dropped the bombshell that they were dating right in front of every Oh that was gnarly. What is kuda gram mean? Like the pist to Resistance. Yeah. I think the Kuda gras like the final bomb mic drop, Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, So then Dean shows up at the dorm. What yeah, how about that, guys? Was that

Rose's excuse? Laurela I said to come drop this off or something, but it doesn't fit and Laurel I never gave her the heads up, which I thought, I know, I thought that was really weird too. I was I thought Dean was maybe lying at first and using that as an excuse, but I was like, why would he lie because Rory will find out that he lied? And was Rory right to be so pissy about him not

going to school right now? Involved I think it was like a little I was in the middle because they've always talked about like he wasn't going to go going to go to school and like he wasn't gonna go to college at first, and then he remember when he told her like I'm going to school, and so she was so proud of him and he's such a good, you know, good student. And I think that it was

more of her past relationship. Yeah, it was her delivery, but also like in her brain, like her past relationship with Dean kicking in of like yeah, so like, yeah, I think it was okay that she said you're making a mistake, don't do that. But then she just like she was literally like hammering him, like don't do this, and it's like that's not your role anymore. She was

a step aside. What do you think I think she cares about him and even as a friend, I think she and she knows that statistics, she knows that people to drop out a large percent of the percentage of them don't go back, and his whole life, he's making a decision based on on statistics that he's not aware

of and his fate. You know, he's like an overt yeah in yeah, sure, but as a friend, you know, why wouldn't you get into it with somebody that you care about and say, listen, you know I care about you. This is important. You may not realize how important, as I understand you have some pressures with your wife and

all that. And yeah, but like Danielle said, I think it really was the delivery, Like I think there was a so nasty about it, and like once he said, you know, Lindsay and I want to get a town house, like we talked about it, like I need to work. I need to pay for things for my family. I would have been support. That's the queue where you go, Okay, he's in a different point in his life right now. He's not just my boyfriend who I'm trying to make

sure it goes to school. Like at that point when he throws the wife card and like real life, like that's when you just stop, like you don't give your two cents anymore. Exactly, I disagree. I think she. I think in that moment, she she couldn't stop herself because she still has feelings for him. I love that Scott's done a full one E D No. I I believe. I kind of believe in their relationship now. I believe in their connection now. I think it's very strong on

both parts. And he basically he's having an emotional affair with another woman. He's having an emotional affairs he's getting from or what he can't. He doesn't have the depth of feeling for Lindsay. He just doesn't. There's no there's no reason for him to dislike or or stray on Lindsay. She's wonderful in every way right and completely supportive, and but I mean his heart is with Rory it's clear. But that's why I'm not okay with it, because it's like, okay, right,

because it's just life, it's nature working itself out. These two are drawn to one of the very powerful. Should he divorced? Yes, he's young, he's having an emotional fairy. They want to be together. They should be together. You know, sucks for Lindsay, but that's the risk you take. You know, all's fair in love and war, right. I just did, like a little bit. It feels a little fast for me, like all of a sudden, this happened so fast, and Dean's just like all up in Rory's business and we're

ready to just ship Lindsay down the river. Feels like they need a little more time to realize their marriage is not great. I just wouldn't want to be Lindsay. Let's just say that. I don't know where I stand on it. I think I was with Scott last week when Scott felt like the Dean's doing the wrong thing. You said inappropriate, and you don't think it's still inappropriate. I don't at this point. I don't think it's inappropriate anymore.

I think it's spilled over into inevitability. Oh, inevitability. Does inevitability make it wrong or right? No, there's no there's you can apply a moral standard to this. It's just how things are. It's just inevitable. It's where people's hearts are going. If there's no moral structure for that, you can't apply morality to that, right, It's just so Am I going to say that your team Dean? I think

right now? I am. Yeah. Well, we're spending a lot of time with them, they're struggling, they're together, they obviously both feel it. Um, you know, there's nothing particularly bad about it. What's so bad about it? It's actually kind of funny because I have been team Dean since the day we met him, but not I like this episode. I was like, I just and idea. It's like, this really has me perplex Scott because I'm I like what you're saying, but I'm surprised actually why it's inevitable? Now

they're both in love, they should be together. Okay, Okay, So that's my question. If he look, if he's doing this this often with Rory, he should chuck his marriage. Do you think she is too? I think he is. I think you're right, I think he is. Do you think she is. She is in lindsay. Look, look, people that if you respect your wife, you do not carry

on like this with an X. It doesn't happen. If the X has any respect for your marriage and has truly, you know, gotten over her feelings are you, she does not get involved with you in this way and in these intimate ways, with these kinds of conversations. It doesn't happen. But the fact that they're both doing it, and they're both going out of their way to have these conversations. I mean, he took her down an alley and said,

I'm not gonna, you know, listen to my wife. I'm going to continue to interact with you in this way. Because he obviously he's very confused, she's confused. They both ali sort of makes me more dean, what are you doing? But there's something real happening there. There's real love happening there. There's really Remember what Jess did. Jess said, I gotta go do something. I'll be right back, and he goes and breaks up with makeup girl makeup Shane Shane, beauty

supply store girl. Right, It's like Jess did the right thing. That wasn't like he was getting out of a marriage with somebody. That was being super sweet tone. But here's here's the problem with with Dean at that in that alley, he said, Lindsay essentially doesn't want me to talk to you anymore, and and Rory said, like, I understand, and he's going he literally said, that's not going to stop me. That was no bueno. Very it's very bueno because he's

expressing how he feels. He's being him get divorced. He will, I'm sure that he will. It's like I said, not a not a good it is bueno. There's there's nothing, there's nothing good. There's no good outcome for Lindsay. Here. She's she's getting the short end all the way. But that's you know, he's doing something wrong. Dean. Roy's not doing anything. She's just trying to be friends with this guy.

And she even said I understand if I understand if it's like you can't talk to me, and then he's like, no, I don't care about my wife, and it's like oh god, yeah, Like she literally gave him the out like I understand, Like you need to do what's right for you and your wife. And it's really on Deane because even Rory. Like, like you said, Danielle, She's like, I get it all good, right,

yeah's gonna make a move here. I don't know what's going to happen, but I kind of feel like Lindsay is not long for this, and they're definitely gonna have

some kind of Red's this is his first marriage. Now, Scott, I have a sidebar question for you, because I know you don't totally know what everyone's storylines are, but do you remember like actors and actresses not being around, Like, obviously you know that Ariel whatever name is, Cabell Cabell wasn't there for the next five years or three years, So it's like, does that play into your mind at all when you're watching it? Well, obviously you know obviously, Look,

they wouldn't. I don't think that the writers would do this to these characters and make them sort of morally suspect or you know, walking that fine line unless they were going to end up together, or at least he was going to be liberated. He would liberate himself from this marriage, give it a go with Rory, and maybe it didn't work, and then they're just sort of both free, but at least he's free of his marriage and free

to you know, seek a new relationship or something. But if if you know she's the you know, he's spending a lot of time with her and he wants to be with her, she wants to be with him. This is this is a sure sign that his marriage is not what he thought it would be or what he

hoped it would be. It's you just don't know until you get into the into the day to day living with a person, and it's like, hey, I don't feel this way about I love you and I care about you, and we'll be friends for our whole lives, but I really feel this way about Rory. And it's complicated, and I am very curious what y'all are going to to

say as we go on. All Right, so we get sort of a little reprieve and there's fifty nine missing rotten eggs down to fifty eight, and then some really serious serious you've got the heavy, you got the light. Then we go into the apartment, Jason's apartment, and they're like trying to find a place for that plant and the fireplace with the fires going, and they're sort of having this conversation and Loria Lae learns that his parents always hate all the girl friends. Perfect thing to say

to your current girlfriends, right, are you, Scott? Are you feeling like Digger and Loria Lee are going to be going in the long haul here for a minute? How are you feeling about them? Um? It seems that way, But there are just too many um land mines that have been planted, Yeah, within their relationship and when it got started, like the very the very fact that they hit it, I think it's going to be a landmine that blows up beneath both of them, and I think

we saw that it did. Um And I really think that's the main one. You know. Yeah, we'll talk about the scene the dinner later. But I like them together. I enjoy them together. I enjoy their banter together. I enjoy him. I've come around a Digger for sure. There's something good. I don't know. I still a little peeved at how he dealt with tricks Is death. I feel like he kind of I had a little turning point for him. There also sidebar and Scott, you may know this.

The stairs and Digger's apartment do not look code. Did you guys see that? Because there's no railing and they're so narrow. I don't know not to code at all. I didn't know does the no railing? Yeah, and it's just not to code. They look so in the living room. They can't seem to get out of their kitchen. So it's like, although that fireplace is beautiful. Um, then oh,

we got a little Lane. We have a little moment with Lane where Rory and Lane are talking about death to Disco, which I thought was sort of rando but amusing. Lane's in a puffer vest and they're kind of walking through town too amidst the eggs. Taylor's getting his reports. Oh pardon me. And then this is the moment where Lane and going the doses. Oof. That was It's like, Rory, you have to realize that town you're in pretty loud? Yeah, and mean mean it would have taken me. You don't

call that a flood. And Ski I feel like she's just stick in her head and where she was concerned until she said and what is Lindsay doing? Like can she get a job? That is when you go mean she loves the guy. I love that Scott is, so she actually thinks she's much better for him. Two, so that he can realize his potential and that this you know that this this Barbie doll is stifling him. Scott, I really thought you would have been mad about this.

It's just interesting because when we met Dean season one, like Lindsay, Lindsay is the perfect girl for who he was then, you know what I mean, like all the things he wanted, he didn't really care about college, like she was perfect. But now that he got into relationship with Rory, he realizes something different and he's no longer that. Look a lot of a lot of the relationships that you get into, uh, where you know your girlfriend or your boyfriend or whatever whoever you are, or see some

real potential in trying to improve you. That those relationships might not last, but those people influence you in a positive way. Um, and I'm all for that. You know.

It doesn't necessarily have to work out between Rory and Dean, but Rory is showing real care for his entire life and stressing and stressing education as Look, you're smart, and I love you, and I see this potential in you, and you and you have to have more confidence academically, and I see it in you, and you just need to stay exposed to academia because you might find a professor that really lights a fire, and a light bulb goes off and you become and you go get your

pH d. And I could be responsible for that. And I really believe in that, you know, And that's why I love it. I like what you're saying and that Rory really does have his best interest. She wants the best for him. But here's my concern. So she wants the best for him, which is also driving a wedge between him and Lindsay. So him and Lindsay, he and Lindsay forget my grammar break up. But then Rory doesn't actually want him. Correct, she didn't want him before. Now

she's at Yale. She doesn't want Simpleton Dean. As much as I love the guy, I don't even think he needs to go to college. He can just work for Tom. It's all fine. Doesn't want him to settle and then not, But that's not problem. She's not gonna She's gonna have him make all these changes and then she's not gonna want him, and then he's gonna be like, oh my god,

I dumped my wife for you at the college. I don't want to be doesn't matter as long as he gets on that other track and gets back to school that it doesn't matter, and what do you mean it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter if together college. What matters is that he gets his ass back to school and and and works on himself and and learns. But not everyone's path is that either, But it could be, but it doesn't have to be. Scott really wants Yeah, you know what, Scott, You want Dean to be the best

Dean he can be. And I think you think Rory can get him there. But what's going to happen is Rory doesn't want him. Yeah, so he's gonna do all these things to get Rory and then she's going to

be with Logan. We know Logan's coming. Sorry spoiler. Yeah, but at least he got this gift of Rory and the gift of education, and the gift of not settling with the Barbie doll, which already has turned into which is already turning into a nightmare for him because he's not vibing with it the way he vibes with Rory.

He's already had this experience of really being sole mates with somebody right that parts correct and and well and and and he doesn't like the mothers around all the time, so that's only gonna get worse when they have children and he's gonna lose his mind. The part you are correct on is it Rory showing him he doesn't actually want to be with Lindsay, even if he doesn't end up.

So okay, we go back to the diner. Kirk hasn't slept in a day and a half, and I did think it was interesting Taylor's order with his turkey on rye and the let us in, the tomato and the cucumber and the cole slaw and the two pickles. I felt for Kirk's, like so badly when he was like, I'm gonna have to cancel the flower show. And Kirk literally was like the men left, No men left, so mean Taylor's mean. Okay, well get ready, everybody here it comes.

So now we got the dinner and we're on the patio with the heaters and the drink carts moving back and forth. The moon is bright. Lore Liz and her very ten out of ten dress, which I love that everybody everyone noticed. She's like, it's normal, there's nothing about anyway. It's a hot mass. Did Scott, did you know going in this is not going to go well. No, um, when it was going so well, that's when I knew it was so cold. That's when I knew it was all going to blow up because it was just going

too well, and I thought, oh God, something. I didn't know what it was gonna be, but I knew that it was going to end up in a fight. I knew it was going to end up in a shouting match. So I didn't know how it would transpire. But it all made sense, didn't it. Did it shock you when Floyd said he was suing them a little bit? Yeah, but perfectly understandable, you know, Yeah, I knew I was

nervous from the start. Yeah, yeah, yeah there, well, yeah, there was always something about Floyd that's a little manipulative anyway, right, Well, yeah, because he's such a jerky dad that you're like, this guy is not just going to come in and be all unicorns and rainbows and love and everybody. But I can't believe he hired a p I against his own son. Oh I can, like what a dweebo? Like, seriously, you're going to do that to your son? But that's his son,

you know what? I thought, to go open a business with a former executive. You know what there was. That's true, It was true, true, true. You know it was a screw up though when they say to lord la oh, we haven't seen you since camp or something. They saw him at that dinner, fancy dinner. You're right, yeah, that's true. She was sitting right next to him. Good callback, thank you. And where was Bob? I thought Bob was going to be at that dinner. Bob didn't show up. M hmm,

interesting again Bob's wife. I really wanted to um the mic the mic drop moment, which one which I was, let's say which one that Lloyd was like, you know his name is Floyd. It's Floyd. I wrote down Lloyd. Floyd revealed that Lorela is dating Digger. Dude. I know. That's like. Emily was just frozen the second he said p I though I knew it was coming same same. I was like, oh no, oh no, yeah yeah, I

was just waiting for its. He just dropped it. So whoever played that guy like kudos, I gotta look it up. It was quite a mortal, just just Emily and Laurel I standing there and then ticked and Richard just was shocked and the whole thing was right when you're so shocked you can't even say anything. Laurence's friend. We need to get Lawrence Pressman on. That was the baller. Here's the thing. And then Richard and Digger have that sort of heartfelt talk and He's says, you got my trust,

go get him. Trust was broken. Richard was just saying that, which is oh my god. Like I literally was like this is so sweet, Like they're gonna they're gonna beat this guy, and you know, YadA YadA, I get as successful and rich as Richard without being a little bit of a screwy. Do you think it's because, um, what was it like he gave away his shares or what was it the Emily put his retirement of his close

Do you think it's like that? Do you think that's why he went with Floyd because he's like, I'm not going to mess this up. I'm not gonna lose that money. Screw Digger. He had to. Yeah, it was it was he was checkmated. He's not going to lose his life by what's his name. He was outplayed by Floyd, but in the end he Richard wins too. Because Richard's getting all the money, bringing all the clients. He's back in

the business, he's got all his partners. He's going to make tons of dough As of now, Diggers the one that's screwed. So as to why Richard left in the first place, because they didn't have skin in the game. Now he's coming back with skin in the game. And I think there's a little bit of motivation to like, Okay, one, he doesn't want to be completely broke, and you know, he doesn't want to lose his pension and whatever all those things. But I think he also was like you

dated my daughter, wow without telling me. Yeah, And I think he's like, you know what we're done because breaking yours now because he's not going to blame Laurela. He's gonna blame Digger because like that's his business partner exactly right, And I'm going to go back with your father in business and dump you and I'm not going to tell you make all the day. And that one scene where Emily was like Richard, do we have to be worried?

And she's all and he literally and I was like he knew at that point I'm gonna about to screw over Digger. And I didn't realize in that scene. I was like, oh, this is sweet, this is sweet, and then no bom, Richards tech boom. All of Richard's fears initially when Jason approached him, which he expressed, m hm, came true, came true, came to the four Yeah, and he's I think he's a little mad that Digger went to lunch with that guy, even though they're just friends.

Has bad. Look. You could have put the company in jeopardy. It displays a pattern of reckless behavior. Does anyone know what kind of fancy car the Gilmore's have in that driveway? Did you guys see that? Some eagle eyed person needs to help me out? They showed it. I didn't see anything. You can see it very blurally. I think through the car window it looks like a model T. But I don't that seems too old timeya. I know that seems like is that like nies? I think that seems too

old timy. But there's a very fancy, old fashioned car the driveway anyway. And then our dear Luke Danes saving the day, handing Kirk the eggs twelve eggs. I knew he would do it. That was actually one of my favorite Luke scenes, you know, because you don't normally see those camera angles on because they were shooting up and it was just kind of a cool scene. Yeah. Dan Palladino directed this, he also wrote it. Yeah, it was just he was taking it was a little more filmic

than what we're used to. Yeah, it was really quite excellent. And also, there's no way Luke hates babies because look how what a good guy he is. I just don't buy that, you know, It's such an inconsistency in his character. So then so then we have the Rory sort of pulls over the car Dean moment, and that we've we've kind of talked it to We've talked it into the ground, but I don't know, we don't totally agree on it. Like I just stopped in the middle of road and

she just stopped. I know, there's no one in that town. Yeah, it's just stop their creepy alley. It's like where that out where that creepy alley come from? An alley when you need one, you know, I don't know. I don't know about this Dean Rory mess. I like it. I like it. It adds tension and and it gives hope, you know, and she has hope, he has hope. It's it's it's the tension created, that struggle to get out of something that isn't fully expressed or realized. And you know,

people do this all the time. They compromise their lives. They get into these situations where they're not completely in love with their partner, but they do it because they love them and they respect them. Yeah, and you know these two are living. It's we can people can live. Um god, I can't even think anymore to pull across there um vicariously through these two. You know, it's all wish yeah, yeah, no, very true. All right. So then another question I have, because I can't solve the Rory

Dean thing, is who's the biggest jerk, Richard, Floyd or Digger. Well, it's got to be Digger. I think it's Floyd. And I was gonna argue maybe Richard, How how's it Digger? Digger. Digger was always out to just screw his dad and that was like his whole m O. And then he just got he got what was coming to him. The Dad's like, I'm not going to take that. Wait minute, So I don't understand what let's let's be clear about this.

So Floyd owns the insurance company that Richard used to work on, and then he kind of pushed Richard's massive this massive company. So Floyd is an extremely powerful guy, right, extremely wealthy, powerful guy. Richard leaves because he's disgruntled. He wasn't getting pushed out. No, they asked him to retire. They're like, you're out. And then Jason came in. His son came in and replaced him, or his father was grooming him for it anyway, and then Jason left, came

to Richard. Okay, all right, so now I kind of get the picture a little better. And then Floyd is coming and saying, I'm suing you because you took my clients or whatever they did wrong. And then Richard said, you know, Richard was very by the book, but I guess this incident where Digger went to lunch is problematic. And look, I think that there is some chess game here, like you're saying, Scott that like in this lawsuit, it's it is posturing that he doesn't really want to spend

the money. He's he's banking on the fact that they're going to cave. Digger is supposed to go figure it out, and then instead Richard pulls the double double agent and goes back to Floyd and says, screw your kid, I'm coming back, but you can't sue me, and I get all this money. I I think, out of the three of them, Richard comes off the cleanest, the most honorable, and he left for good. He left for a good reason.

He worked his whole life and didn't get what he thought was his his due, and he left and that's he's a principled, honorable guy. Um and now he's back in the This is nasty. Maybe none of them are jerks, that's just business is nasty. You mean the typebreaker, who's the who's the jerk? Like it's it's it's it's Digger ultimately, But it's Floyd as well, Floyd. It's Floyd. I think both of them dad dad. Floyd's a mean dad. I mean, like they don't even He even says he doesn't have

a relationship with Floyd. Yeah, you know, And I think I think Floyd started the fire for sure. Well you know, at the fire. Sometimes you spend you know, when you have young children and you're building, trying to build an empire, that the children get left behind, and that looks like the case I left him. I don't know these are all valid. Point, Yeah, I think I think Digger left him because he felt his father abandoned him as a kid to build his insurance. Very messy, everyone's everyone's hands

are are not clean. Messy is Rory and Dean. It's a messy, messy tick tick to everyone. Yeah, lots of great storylines going on in these episodes. Now, they're all sort of intersecting and conflicting and enhancing each other. It's all just great stuff. And when they shift gears on this show and go to a Rory Dean or they go to a you know, a Kirk tailor or Luke Kirk or whatever, it's just it's just wonderful, you know, it's it's just such a it all feels like, ah, yeah, okay,

now we get to enjoy this. Now we go back to this. Oh it's you know, it's it's all great. It's just it's I completely agree. How many rotten eggs are you giving it? I think Daniel is a real man master. I think he's a master at dramedy. He really really Yeah, hack of a director, because that was a beautifully directed episode. Yeah it really was. Um wow, hats off to Dan Palladino. Um how many? How many? How many? I don't know, Tara? How many? What are

you going to use? Are you gonna use? You're gonna use eggs? Spoiled eggs? Yeah? I give it a seven point five. Wow, Wow, you're tough. So why is seven point five? She doesn't have to explain herself, she does, I'm with Scott, she does. Oh yeah, you come up with a seven point five on a quality episode. At least you better? You better. I am definitely a hard greater on this, but like, it wasn't a memorable episod

out for me. It had memorable moments, but as a whole, Oh my god, how much Nike will are you on? And then disagree all those episodes? When I watched back, I was like, oh yeah, like I forgot about it. M hm, okay eight and three quarters rotten eggs? Eight point seven five? And why why do you give it any point seven five? Not higher? Not lower? I think the Dean and Rory stuff really just didn't make me happy.

Ye nine rotten eggs for me, nine rotten eggs because I don't look I don't have to love it to love it, you know what I mean, Like, I don't have to love or and Dean to love the I think the whole digger Richard, all that jazz is gnarly, but but I love it. And a lower lized dress is a was a ten out of ten out of ten,

so I'm going nine rotten eggs. So I'm experiencing this sort of metamor purfaces here as I watched these episodes, because I think I started off as a critic of the show, and now I've become a true fan of the show. So I so I feel like I can see things more clearly now because I'm not so judge of them are so critical. So I'm enjoying it a lot more. Um and uh, I'm going to rate this in uh the beautiful golf shots, oh three yards right

down the middle. Um And I don't mean to sound redundant and and listen, I naturally, you know, I I look for flaws. Okay, That's what I'm looking for here. I just didn't see any. So this was a hole in one. It's it's it's it's a hole in one. Yeah, it's a ten. It's a ten. Beautiful golf shots out of ten. Where were the flaws? I didn't I didn't find a single flaw. This was a seamless episode, not to code stairs. Did the crack staff have anything? Um, gosh,

you know what. I don't know that they had a lot. But talk amongst yourselves while I find I will. What what is next week's episode? Oh? I think it's after boom. Oh my gosh, Scott. We do have some exciting news for you that we will tell you off air that people are going to like. But we want to tell you off air first. Sorry. Yeah, I know that's a terrible tease, but that's tease me all day. Leave it,

l girl. To talk amongst ourselves. There's nothing more frustrating than we can't tell you guys this, but we're going to talk about it. But then they wonder, you know. I also like to hear from everybody on where they stand on Floyd versus Richard versus Digger, where they stand on Dean versus versus Lindsay, where they stand on what weird old timey car was that in the Gilmour's driveway beard facial hair versus no facial hair. There's a lot of things I'd love to hear about. Yeah, we need

everyone's like input for sure. I just listen. I'm good at finding flaws. I like picking things apart, I like detail. I I just you know. Dan Palladino to me, is so impressive. And he built and he wrote and he directed, and I'm sure he had a big hand in the editing as well. I just didn't find a flaw in it. It's a perfect episode. Um. Unfortunately, nothing's coming up for Crackston and the crack staff probably also has a cold. Will join them next week. I just got hang on

text message from crack staff. We agree, Scott, this was flawless. There was nothing, okay, all right, all right, so after boom next week, after boom, all right, everybody, thank you so much for downloading. Uh Tara, good seeing you, Danielle Amy, nice seeing you again, and give our best to your support staff who was at Grand Central station over there. It was a little hectic here. Button. I also have

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