I Already Set 'Em Aside (S2 E3, "Red Light on the Wedding Night")

Danielle specifically, was it did you? Were you shocked? Like, because you guys have you haven't seen it Scott since you did it and Danielle never seen it, So like, what did you guys think of the end? I thought it was really kind of predictable the whole thing. It was a little ham handed in my estimation. It kind of lacked the I don't know, it lacked the style and the wit structurally speaking, and then it's just like they wanted to tie it up real fast in one episode.

So I saw it all coming. I saw coming from a mile away, and I guess that's just TV, right. I don't understand TV the way I understand film. Um, So it was a fun ride, No question, I enjoyed it. You weren't shocked when she ran in and was like, puck backs, pack backs, Well, no, I was shocked. It took her that long to say anything. I liked how she ran and said pack your bags, pack your bags, and let's get out of here. It's like wow, um,

But I think you know, they made him. They made Max look as drab as they could possibly make him in the wardrobe department. With that, you know, he looked like a high school kid. He looked like kind of a a high school kid who was unsure of himself with the wide color shirt and and and the drab

and he slouched a little. He's such a good actor that he made himself like that, right, because when he's wearing the school uniform in the suit, he's looking kind of kind of great, right, spectacular, But he looked a little I don't know, when they got home and he's untucking that shirt not he lives there, and you're like, yeah, yeah,

it's a whole different guy. And so that's that's Brenda maybeen in the wardrobe department, you know, just just nailing it right, because that's that's a whole conversation, right, there with the creators, like, how do we make this guy look a little schlumpy and like maybe not so appealing, even though it's hard to make Scott Cohen look not appealing. Buddy duddy, Yeah, he wasn't so sure of himself, and that's in the dialogue. But I just I thought it was very well executed. But I saw it coming a

mile away, you know, Yeah, yeah, did you? Yeah? I totally saw it coming from a mile away. Part of me wishes that it was on their wedding day that she was like, let's go instead of like the week of for you know, like just for the drama factor. But yeah, I saw that coming because then there's no coming back from that. Now the door is a little bit open. I know he's gonna feel burned and horrible with the door. They didn't get that far right, they

didn't get so pregnant in the process. I mean it was pretty pretty pregnant a couple of days before and she bails, But yeah, leave him at the altar would have been like, you know, there's no coming back from this. But he might come back from this. I don't know if does he. I don't know. I actually am trying to remember, yeah, Riley thoughts impressions. I think, I think that's so mean to do it the day of I know what happens, but I know Daniel wants drama. It

just seems so cruel. It's savage. Um no, but Lorela is savage like that. That's her, you know, that's her. That's the thing. That's the line he goes, can you think about yourself? Can you not think about yourself for a couple of seconds out of the day, I think of somebody else, like boom, that was them to kill or blow? That was so aggressive that wow, And you know, I kind of don't blame him. Um, I knew they were doomed when she called Christopher, oh god, which I

thought Christopher couldn't have been more charming and perfect? Yeah? Actually, yeah he was great. It wasn't he great in that scene? Yeah? Perfect? He was great in that scene. And it's not hard to do. So let me ask you that, Like, he's obviously supposed to be on the phone with her, So where is is he in a room by himself? Is

he probably doing it with her? Though? No? No, no, no no no. If it depends on if if she has already filmed her side of it, and maybe he gets the audio from her from what she did, so he can, you know, but it's usually just a stand in or somebody reading or the script supervisor reading the lines from because he would never see that, like, actually, is it back and forth? Because it would be impossible. No,

it's not necessary. Those are the type. Yeah, and then yeah, it's but there's no reason to have two people doing at the same time now to be ridiculous. All right, we're already across the street, go ahead, or you know what, we got a little No, we got a wiring problem. We're gonna have to stop it, right, But yeah, he was. That was a really good because you know, Emily tells that story and then they're all calling their significant others and she calls Christopher. Yeah that. I mean, look, she

was done way before that. I mean she was done in the in the bedroom when she saw Max vying for some kind of parental power and authority, like what about Dean and Rory kissing outside? I mean, well, what's my role here? And I'm thinking this guy's coming on glued real fast here. I mean he's not even in yet, and he wants, you know, he wants to take over he wants some authority, and it's like and she made the most salient point of their entire relationship, which is

she's already grown up. She's I mean, she's fully cooked. I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing for you to do except you know, make the the garlic bread and and be my be my sex slave, fella, my old man. I can't wrap my head around them. Like doing it that still wigs me out, takes me back to that weird shirtless scene. Well, okay, so here's the thing. The imbalance for me is it's almost like, you know, she's more aggressive, she's more manly than he is, almost on

a certain level. You know, you don't because she's quite a substantial presence. I mean, Lauren Graham herself, right, She's she's a powerful that's a powerful person, and and that character is a powerful person, right with even with all the insecurities and you know, temporary flights of fancy and you know, visiting the insanity every once in a while.

But I think you're right. I think you're right. Though she's it doesn't feel like it's a good match because he seems overpowered you and I see what you think intellectually, they're there. I think intellectually they're both there, and it's a it's a ping pong match. And he might be a little even more on the nerdy side, right, and she's supposed to be some kind of a nerd right, not as much as him obviously because he went and

got his degrees in a teaching degree and what whatnot. Um, But yeah, don't they don't seem well matched physically to me. It's even personality wise. He just seems like a push over to her. Yeah, I can't put my finger on but I think you're right. I think what you're saying is accurate. Something is off. It's the Jerry Seinfeld thing, like, what's wrong? Were there now? Jerry? She's just too nice? You know, I can't there's nothing dirty about her, you know, Yeah,

you know she might be too nice for her. He doesn't push back on her enough, even though he was aggressive in this episode that you only think of yourself and kind of that bedroom little tiff argument. But when he tries to push back, it seems too much. It seems out of character. When I do it, it's that's who I am, that's my It's also just too soon. They got engaged a witty too soon. Yeah, because if Dean is schooling Max Medina like Dean knows more, it's weird.

I liked, I liked. I like Dean in this episode. I thought it was super cool, great scenes, great, right and great, really funny stuff. But you know, advising him on the how they these people are? Um? But it's god. I just, I just I just had a thought. I lost it? What was it? Hang on? Observed Brazil. Hello Brazil. We do like your jacket today. You know you're wearing your eye am all in hat. I didn't that it? Now? Where do they get it? You know what? I've got

my hat on. And if I were at a ballgame or something or a soccer match watching my son, I guess i'd have a steaming hot mug. You can get this hat and this mug at my fan threads dot com. I love it. Actually, the mug is legit. I'm not gonna lie. I love both. I wear the hat out. I wear the hat out to my birthday party. Danielle. Do I have to pay for the mug or do we get it for free? I have to pay for it, right, we can get it for free for you. We just have to pay shipping. I love it. Oh the perks

of working on this. I got a receipt? What did I just pay for? Did I pay for this stuff? Is it coming out of my end? There? Like you keep in track for sure, we'll charge you back on that. Yeah. Okay, wait,

so let's talk more about Dean. So I liked him in this episode two, and you know, he fits in better with them well now that he knows the drill and he's finally in a scene where he's like when we first met him, he's in control and he's cool, and he's he's just calm about everything and he's accepting of everything. That's the first time i've you know, I liked him in the beginning when he was a little aloof and a little mysterious um, and then he kind

of lost that. But of course, you know he gets he gets into that the chainsaw that is the Gilmore girls, right, and it gets chewed up a little bit. Which is wearing the necklace. I don't remember the necklace this time, but he was he was doling out the good advice to old Max, you know, like watching he I mean, he knows them both, like you don't know what you're

you don't know what you're walking into. Pal But okay, So the point I was gonna make is is what's what's interesting is when you compare Luke and Max, right, Luca's a known come on to those two, they know if it's it's she's layalized, not losing any bit of familiarity or any there's no real life change for her if Luke comes into the scene, because they're so usy, he's just there, right. The pancake ordering is the perfect examp, perfect example. And he and he knows, he knows his boundaries,

he knows he's he's helped raise Rory too. He's cared and he's not going to buy for power. He doesn't want it right, and Max is like, and so really, you know, Laurel I wakes up Roy and says, you know, uh, there's a boy in my bed, in the whole thing, but there's a boy in my room and all this stuff. She's realizing what she's gonna lose. She's gonna lose that

intimacy with Rory. She's gonna lose. And again she stops worrying about emptiness syndrome and what's going to happen, and she sees all that, She sees the sea of possibilities. Maybe with Luke, maybe with Christopher who knows, but not this guy. She realizes she never bothered when you show up a six in the morning, or you let yourself into the house, or any of it. And I do think the pancakes scene was so telling because they had

to change for Max. They're like, no, will wait, uh, Like it threw them off their rhythm, and he even acknowledges it, like my rhythm might be different than yours. But you're just like, dude, what like they need their pancakes. And you you were so funny in that scene because it looks like I can't make more. Well that's you know, that's just what I do. And then when they finally order them, do you still have them? And you're like, I already put him aside? So good. So they've got

that flow, they've got that familiarity. It is not a big stretch to have Luke come into her life. He's established that over the years. Poor Max, Poor Max, he never had a chance to poor boy, he never had a chance. Still, great hair, great hair, He's a handsome dude. It's going back on what you said. I was really intrigued by how you're saying. Luke doesn't even need to have sort of power over them or her because he doesn't care. And what's so interesting is I feel like

he has that power because he doesn't care. But he he always is right, even with her, right right exactly. But he can exert an opinion which may come off as a authority, but it's not like he's grabbing for it. It's not like he's demanding it. And that's a big deal.

I mean, that is just a bridge too far in a relationship, even one that is supposed to be as heartfelt and deep as as as Max and Laurel I. And he's flipping out in her bedroom in the first night, he's their second night, he's are wanting power over Rory and it's like, what are you doing? It was it was it was a bad move. It was too much as a guy, what do you shut up? What are you do when you're blowing it? And she's like, you know, taking it back and trying to sit an the thing.

She's trying to save him from destroying the relationship. But it's too late. Cats out of the bag can't unring a bell. And he was ringing the bells all through that episodes, like each scene was so important, The breakfast at the diner, that scene, Dean knowing more, Emily at the bachelorette party, explaining how you should feel the week of your wedding. That was the best for me. That was the best scene in the whole I mean, besides the Luke scenes. Let's not be silly, let's not kid ourselves,

but the Emily scene was brilliant. That was brilliant, brilliantly delivered and uh, really impactful. And you could just see Laurel I just like, wow, you know she's right so one time, so one time her mother got to speak uninterrupted listen to and it impacted everybody and the way the friends like Emily, you know what I mean, Like we all know lord la has her drama, but of

course Michelle, that's his bestie, but they like her. The only thing that was funny, I don't know if you guys know that fully stands out to me how old the cell phones are. And then did you guys see Rory's like a O L pager, like the flip phone, flip phone, It doesn't feel dated too often, but the phones, you're like Oh my god. They did mention the word gay in a somewhat derogatory sense at one point in

the show, which right now wouldn't fly. You know, yeah, there's a few things we we have another show we work on about Beverly Hills nine o two and oh, and that came up in there. There's some things that were acceptable at the time that are not acceptable. And it was, you know, and and unique dancing up there. He needed to move his thing, right, Melissa said, Oh, he needed to move his thing, his his stuff or what did she say? He needed to move? I don't want it to be X rated. I thought dancing was

pretty solid. He's got move, slap him or I will. And now they're all hung over the next day and again so much. It's like and and Max isn't even even in sync with the hangover. And he had one too, but he had a lighter one because he didn't drink as much. So he's not even in he's speaking too loud. She's like everything. It's like, give the guy some bad shirts, make him slouch, you know, make him inappropriate, make him vibe for power, I mean talk about blowing up a

character and whatever. He sort of got dork here and dork he did. I mean, they just did. They ruined him. It's like, that's it. Here's no coming back for that guy. Yeah, because at first I did, I mean back if we look back on the first day they met at Chiltern, he was so dreamy and you you liked them, and then as it went on, you're like, look, they did a nice run, you know they did. Yeah for them, Yeah, hey,

for Max and Morla, you know, seriously. And that she called Christopher and not Luke, well mm hmmm mmm m m. I did not like that. My only thought is that you knew everything, so she can't really call and tell you she's at her bachelor et. I think she called me and did dad, It would be far too suggestive, totally, I like you, Yeah, she couldn't do that, So she had to call somebody who was who knew her better

than anybody and was just a friend. And interesting that Christopher called Rory to say, something's up with your mom watch calling me on her bachelorette party. Right, I mean, he's still the dad. He's still you know, he's still you know, a valued member of that family, even though he's not there every day. So and it gave Roy that inkling of like, oh maybe not yeah, totally um yeah, interesting episode, interesting episode, how they disposed of Mac. What's

the name of the episode again? Red? What is it called red light? And what? Oh it's called red Light on the wedding night, Red red Light on the wedding Night. Perfect. And then it's also you know, acknowledging that there's the stoplight that went in. Yeah, that's good. Oh my god. Did you guys all notice the background actors so much more now after we talked to Carol V Now I'm like noticing the background actor. I always focus on them. It's like, don't screw it up. And they're all so good.

Weren't they all so good? It's doing something that's a hard job to concentrate for that long and that many takes and keep repeating and repeating and repeating. All right, everybody, we're back from a little break. I got a little sweaty, so I had to change my shirt. Uh I have I was. I'm so obsessed with this episode that I went back and I watched it again, and I found a couple of very interesting things. There are some tidbits, and there are some some production gaffs and I know,

I know the fan base loves this stuff. They traffic this stuff, and it's really and you know, now I'm I'm such a fan at this point. I'm like really hunting for things, you know, like you guys with the clown pillow that never done. So now I got a couple of things, and I'm pretty proud that I you know, and I want to learn him on it. And you

guys don't know what I'm gonna say. Okay, so there's there's there's actually three things, and I'm going to start with the lesser and then end with the big macgilla, which is like kind of a huge thing and we can really bat it around. So the first thing, the first thing is this, uh and if Eastern could queue up the Babette line red hot Poker during the stoplight dedication, seen you got that Easton? Yeah, okay, so we'll just keep it going here. Hey, uh, two camels walk into

a bar and they were they sassafras juice. Uh. Anyway, so listen after Babette's line red hot poker, right, you know, you get a red hot poker up here, you know what? They go over to Laura Laone Suki and our sound guy Dennis. Dennis is on his knees right behind Lauren, fully visible, fully visible way. I love these kind of things.

And that guy, let me tell you something that Dennis, it was the hardest working sound guy in the business, um because he you know, at the time, he was like I think he was in his fifties or his sixties, late fifties maybe early sixties, and still had all this great energy and optimism and he loved coming to work and he loved he just loved being there. Now, can you explain how that would happen? Because you need to capture Babbett's line. He couldn't figure out how to capture

Babbett's line clean without getting behind Laurel. I thinking he was hidden by Laura Leone Suki and with the boom mic you know like that everyone by a boom or does anyone wear a mic pack with like a mike hidden in there? Get? I get they wanted Yes, I think everybody in that scene had the pack, had their mic pack right, and they have the little tiny invisible mike right here right there, but they want they need to cover it also for what they call background tone

and room tone and all that stuff. All that even the tone has to match. So if somebody's speaking on a line you don't have the proper room tone and editing you cut to a scene, Well, well we can't use that. We've got to use the mic. The mic pack thing. It's gonna sound different. It's not the sound won't match the tone of the sound. That's specific. Yeah. So, um, that's so everything's got to be covered by mike pack and by by um what do they call there's a

term for it that escapes me. Now, Um, gosh, it's it'll come to me and I'll just blurt it out. It will shock everybody. We do a show, we do a show like this with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling all about Beverly Hills nine o two and now, and Jenny Garth finds a boom mic in almost every apisode. It's like she loves it. It's the hardest job in the world being a boom guy. That I mean, their arms just gets their shoulders get so tired because they're

like this. They're standing on apple boxes above us because you know, they try to stand at our level and get the boom mic in the right position. But it's always Dennis, can you can you stand on an apple box? And then they've got to sort of balance themselves and can you stand on another apple box? How long they could hold that? Because sometimes my arm gets soreed just taking something out. Oh they're there for hours doing that.

Oh my goodness. And they're sweat You can see them, like their arms shaking and their sweating, and they're just focusing and that, you know, and they don't want to mess up the scene at all because you know, let's see what happened. Oh there it is, yeah there and okay, okay, so we gotta get to Babbett's line watching it now. Okay, so Dennis is not there now, okay's best start talking now.

When they when they go back to the two shots of Lauren and Suki and Lauren and Melissa, he's gonna he's going to appear there you you, Sam is there? He is there, he is. There's Dennis, my buddy. It's actually amazing. How did you not just yeah straight up with the headphones on production gearh my god? Wait now when he goes and look? Okay, so now they went back and he's gone, right, So we'll put that on

the Instagram. For anyone. It's God. That just goes to show you how difficult it is to shoot a show. I think they referred to as here's the term ambient sound. Them being sound has to match what's the guy's name? Again? We got to try to Dennis, I forget. I think it was um mix something we'll find good Irish name. I think Dennis trying to find him. Oh my god, I can't wait for what's next. If that was the

small one. All right, now, Eastern, I want you to queue up for me if you would, good sir, uh the diner scene when when Max comes into the diner, when you're like you a great brown but like that, I want you to queue it up to the scene, to the part of the scene where um, I bring the coffee cups. Okay, so this was earlier in the episode. It was a little I think it was earlier in the episode. Yeah, yeah, And I think you guys are going to really like this one. Okay, here we are,

here we are, and let's move it forward. And cups are coming in and there's there's cups. Those are three cups right there, and then Luke makes a little speech. Now watch the cups. Watch what happens to the cups. Ready, here we go, Magic, magic, Magic, it's coming. Wait till Luke walks away. Here we go. Luke's about to walk away, and then he's still talking. Luke is still going boom, blue cups. They're blue. Now, hang on, keep going, keep going.

You would love Now they're red again, They're red. It happened. I don't know what happens. Happened where you suddenly switched out to blue cups and didn't you realize it? Oh man? You know, oh my god. First of all, did were you in Easton and cahoots? Because like, did you because we did not know you were going to talk to us about this? I no, no, no, we're not in cahoots. No.

I just texted him right before we came on. Can you just make sure you cue up these scenes and have them ready so you know you're aware of these three scenes. Easton's our engineer, and he's just ready with these. They're quite high deaf here on the zoom. You know, I don't know how that could happen. I'm trying to think of a scenario where could there ever have been a rehearsal that you shoot where they may be shot and then when you actually did it for real, you

switched out the color of the cups. I can't even figure out why. I don't know. It's just one of those things. Yeah, it's just one of these. Yeah. There's so much going on on that set in terms of props, especially in the diner. There's a million props. There's a million things to take keep track of, you know, the script script supervisor supposed to be on top of that, the prop guys are on top of it. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes that happens, yes, and there is a but it's

kind of magical, you know. It goes from it's like this heightened reality where the cups are red and then they're blue, and then they're red. It's like, what's happening? God, I can't wait for the next one. That's wonderful. All right, all right, so well, I mean, I mean, don't give me the credit. It happened on you know, they did um Okay, the last one, which I think is really huge.

I think it's a massive symbol. Okay, And this is gonna be a little more serious, but Eastern, if you would, sir, queue up the very last part of the final scene where they pull up to the to the stoplight. Yes, here we go, and they're coming in and I want you guys to see if you can, and I'll tell you when to look for it. M hmm. Okay. So they're running away from she's running laurealized, running away from Max.

They're coming through the empty town. They're coming And isn't it interesting that's there stopped at the corner of Luke Steiner right now. I want to now wait for the wide shot, wait for the winde shot. She's running away from Max and maybe the door is opened to Luke's Oh my god, did you see the door? That was almost scary. I mean I got goose bumps. The door was wide open. The door was wide open. It was six it's five am, six am. The door is wide open.

It's like, come on in. There's the symbolism of being stopped at the stop light saying like, hold up, girl, you don't need to run out of town. There's your solution exactly. That's what the scene is telling. Well done. Door is wide open. Yes, just come inside, Just come inside, pull over and come inside. There you go. How to give it to you? I really do. That was very enjoying. Not bad, and I agree with the symbolism. It's huge because they pay it way too much attention to detail

for that to not be a detail. Would we would the kids call that an easter egg? Daniel, that is the correct usage of easter egg. Well done, Amy, well done, My god, Scott, you got to try and do this every episode. I'm gonna try. I don't know if I can want. I don't know if I can find the gems every episode. People will help us to. I might need to start staffing up on my like you guys, you know you. I mean, I need a staff of people looking at com Hopefully people will start um messaging

us so much stuff. They're hidden messages in these shows. It makes me want to start our whole podcast over this, right, imagine what we potentially missed. I feel like we have to go back and we're mucking around with clown pillows all over the place. But what else are we missing? What? Ex week we're just like, hello, everybody, this is Gilmore

Girl's season one Everisode one. This could you know it creates the show could be doling out and these hidden messages the meaning of life itself that we're not paying attention that was legit rad Eastern. Excellent work, excellent, excellent, Raaston, thank you so much. And that's all I got. I mean, that's it. That's that's why I wanted to come back and reconvene. And no, we are way here for stoplight symbolism and finding what was his name, Dennis spot Dennis.

It's like that Saturday Night Live, but back in the seventies. Find the popes in the pizza. Find the pope in the pizzas. Find the popes in the pizza. Oh, I've been sent a message. Yeah, we have surprised for you. We have someone surprising you from the bachelorette party. Are you what are you talking about? Well, I mean there was some there's some famous faces, as we say in that in that bachelorette party. Bar. Would you call that a bar? Club? I guess we're a club. I mean

it's a Yeah, it's a club. So do you want to bring in our friend? Who is it? So? Straight from the Bachelorette Party portraying Janet Jackson. The actress's name is Jasmine. Have her here? Oh? Good god, relive the bachelorett party memory, jas Many, Hi, Jasmine, Hello, how are you doing I'm well, thank you. Nice to see you. Get to see you as well. What a great episode. Oh nice, it's a long time ago. That's twenty years ago. It's a long time ago. Well, it's nice, it's nice

to meet you. Um. I just saw the episode for the first time, and you played which character in the in the club scene? I think I was like Janet Jackson, Jackson, Janet Jackson. Um. Okay, so let's get into this. How did you hear about this particular acting opportunity and howd you heard of Gilmore Girls prior to filming it? Um? I got the job through my management team at the time, the Literarious Group and Mars and you know who was

with Yellow Rules. I think at that time this is like two thousand correct, yes, well this would be two thousand and one season two thousand and one. Yeah, I was with that particular team of people, and I had heard of it. I believe it was on kt LH channel five, but I hadn't seen it, and so um, when I went to the audition show, wasn't really familiar with this show. But like a lot of times, you know,

actors are not familiar with every show they're appearing. So when I was told that they wanted to see me. I was like, awesome, but they wanted it a character. They wanted like a Celebriting impersonation. And I think Janet Jackson was popular at the time, really popular. So I had my someone to call, my lover outfit and they picked me and I got I got shows. That's exciting. Yeah, it was, It really was. That's really exciting. Wow. Um, But you knew did you know about the stature of

the show at that point? It had gotten so many great reviews and it was kind of a little bit on the radar of the entertainment business at that time. Yes, it was really popular, yet it was Yeah, it happened fast. Yeah yeah, wow, So that was exciting. To tell me about the first day of filming. Did you did you do a wardrobe session with Brenda and the whole thing years ago? Twenty years ago, twenty years ago? Yeah, I

most definitely. M had to do, um um a custom check to make sure that I wasn't wearing certain colors and that it wouldn't clash with anybody else's right. Yeah. There, it's very very specific. Yeah. So what was the Queen Victoria's set like, uh, and What stood out to you if you don't remember it was I think it was a nightclub scene, all right, something like that. What I remember the most about that wear took the episode because I knew some of the other performers that were appearing,

Dolly Leave. I worked at the Queen Mary at the time. I think I was still working at a club on Sunda monicable of our tol Peanuts. I don't think it exists anymore, but it was right um between Crescent Heights and and Fair Facts, and I would appear there, and I knew a couple of the other girls that appeared and some of the other nightclubs and throughout Los Angeles, and so that was very um but you knew each other. Yeah, all right, well that makes for a fun day of shooting.

There's that iconic sort of moment where you're dancing. We're pretty sure because that would it looked like Janet Jackson with with the Uma Thurman was perfect from pulp Fiction and then Michelle So that was a kind of a cool moment to be dancing with them. No, it was a really a great time for me. Um. Just in general, I was I was working a lot at that time,

and when I got the job was a surprise. I mean they all are at the end of the day, but that particularly when they were like, oh they want you, and I was like, oh, that's wonder phone. So you know, I showed up and it was just really pleasant set. That's what I remember the most. It was really pleasant, easy set toward Yeah, it always was. It was nice and easy. And so do you remember dancing with Johnny

Truesdale on stage? I don't know, yes, yeah, I think you get up there and you're you're dancing around with you unique and who all was in there? So it was Janet Jackson and Luma Thurman, May West, Riley and Daniel. Can you guys remember all the characters that were in that club, Celine Dion and it was pretty like. The thing I love about the scene is that all the were a lie and her friends made total perfect sense

to be there. But having Emily Gilmore, who I don't know if you've seen the show, but she plays loyalized mother and she's very proper and very so she's in that club and it's just like made it that much better ordering her drinks from Maywest. Yeah, So you've played a broad range of characters. Let me read off the list of characters that you have played. It's very impressive. Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Janet Jackson. Who's your favorite? Well, I used to um, they're all my favorite because they

all bring, you know, different elements to the table. But I used to work at a club on Las Ariannaga when it used to be the restaurant row called the Kaja Fall, and so that's where I really got to exercise and learn exercise my craft and learn um uh you know, how to create those uh wonderful the essence of those wonderful people. And um, a lot of times people she came to see me perform, Like I met Grace Jones. She came to Lakaja Phone when I've performed there. Um,

oh my god, I met Grace. I met Grace Jones a long time ago. Yeah, she actually came to see the show. She's she's a she's a fantastic Yeah, she's a great person to hang out with. And then um, you know, after after, you know, while I was doing that, I started auditioning for like TV shows. So my first TV shows with John Larra kat So I did the show for a few seasons and then the hits just kept on coming. Shortly after I did um give those girls? I did um? What was that movie for? Yo? Version

like a couple of years later, Steve Correll. Yeah, so it's been a it's been funny. Can you sing? So when you're portraying those Tina Turner, Janna Jackson, do you sing as well? I think? But I live thinking and I'm God and got when I'm doing my celebrity. Mine is more the essence, right, It's the moves, It's it's the persona right. You know some awesome artists that you can actually see right and you know performance right right right? Um?

So wow, So you're so that takes acting skills for you to to to really get into the skin of another performer, another person and bring it to left. Yeah, it's it's a whole process. Yeah, it's a total. Yeah. You need to be you know, you know, you need to learning mannerisms. You want to make sure you know their music and your style history about right, you know, you know, just um, you know you want to study your character, study the character. So did you take acting

classes and I work with acting coaches. Yes, I've taken some classes interesting oftentimes on various sets. They've been generous and they would provide coaching for me. So I have out a private coaching on different on different jobs. Who who do you remember from the set, if anybody do you remember? Do you remember Kelly Bishop or Lauren or daughter and the main daughter and the main mother? Oh so so so Emily and Rory so so, Alexis Bloodell

and Kelly Bishop. Yeah, yeah, the main mother because she was like a single mother. Lauren, that's Lauren Graham. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Laura Lai. Yeah, I remember the single mother and the daughter. Right, all right? Interesting? Interesting? So you did that gig and then after that gig, was it easier for you to get work because you had that on your resume and people took notice of and say, oh,

you were on Gilmore Girls. Will you know? I don't even know, because to be honest, that particular show I didn't have I don't even know if I had a name or our lines on this show, like I was a guest star or co star. It was more you stood out because of who you were portraying. Yeah, I had nothing to do what I said or did. Really, I mean, most none of them had lines other than Maywest. It was more the presence and that you were Janet

and dancing with the waiter headlines, the waiter headlines. Yeah, yeah, so I wouldn't. I don't. I don't know if they would have seen me. And oh my god, we gotta we gotta have jacks from that particular show, right, But

I think it looks good on my resume. I was even today when I say that people like you were and I was like, well, I didn't have any lines when I was on the show, embellish, Come on, you had a speech, you got cut you know, I had hold ten ten scenes I filmed with Luke and Laureline and where you know, and they just you know, of course sometimes these things happen in the business. They end up on the cutting room floor. But it was gonna be my big shot. It's gonna make a break. Yeah,

that's that's thing. And uh, you know, and they owe me and I'm sure they'll call you anyway. Even when I got the call, but that you know, you guys were interested in him. I was like, what did I actually do on the show? And I was thinking, how sweet to want to remember me twenty years later for basically for effortlessly doing very little right right, right, right right. Well, Jasmine,

it has been a blast talking to thanks for joining us. Um, this was thoroughly enjoyable, and uh, you know, we loved watching that episode and we particularly love watching that scene. We're breaking it down right now, and it was it was a lot of fun, uh to watch it. I wish I was there filming it wasn't you know. I wasn't in the scene, but at least I get to see it. So thank you for your contribution to the show, and thanks for coming on. We really appreciate it. Thank

you for having me. Okay, Jasmine, alright bye. I love in that scene that Michelle was invited to the bachelorette park, Well, of course, I mean, you know, he's he's got to be there and been that Michelle. I mean, I know we mentioned it, but that Michelle invites Emily like that is so classic. But what a world that Jasmine occupies. I mean, it's isn't it interesting how they the work that they put into that to be so exacting with every move and every you know, And she said, it's

like getting the essence of somebody. It's like character acting and sane, didn't Janet Jackson wasn't as prominent, but the Uma Thurman from Pulp Fiction literally had it down perfect, just the whole, not just the dance to that, but like the body language, and you're like, WHOA got is legit? Fascinating subculture. It's a fascinating subculture. Well, she was fun. That's a great scene and perfect that that's where they had the bachelorette party. Um, what else do we need

to unpack here? Well? I love Emily that she says, if you say you're going to have a party at eight o'clock, we hear it moralized, Like I don't even invite you. You gotta keep that tension. You gotta keep that tension between mother and daughter. You gotta do it. Um. I love the tailor stuff. I think it's it's it's it's some of the first I mean, it's it's the first time. Was it is it the first time that

Luke has really popped a tailor? It's not the first time, the most noticeable really because I think there was that time in the town meeting where you got you know about the reenactor. Yeah alright, alright, but I really like me watching the episode before we came on the air. I really It was really felt so assaulted that a traffic light was going up outside my diner because it's such a sleepy little town. What do you need to traffic It's so stupid. Right sign is giant yellow sign?

I mean it said everything about what's wrong with that is like, and we have time to stop light the oldest member of our our town to get across the street. I mean, how Finn was that? That was a tough scene too, because there's so much background and lower Lie and uh Suki have their conversation going, and then you're having your sort of going at Taylor all in the same scene, and it's just like, oh my god, and I think, Sukie, I think I'm sorry. Go ahead, now,

go ahead, Danielle, you were going to say something. I was waiting for my chance to talk about Michelle after The Bachelor at party because that was my favorite scene. We can go out of order, go to it. So afterwards when everyone's hungover and this is my favorite lines, I'm saying it early, but he goes, I feel like crap on toast and I literally belly laughed. I was like, I love him so so do I I deeply love

that character. I just He's the He's the greatest. If Max is waiting for you outside, if you don't slep in like well, it really is like such the best part of it, the best part of it. Oh my god, we didn't talk about the huppa. Oh my god. Should take a break. We gotta take a break, take a break. Yeah, I gotta get my guitar too, because I gotta get ready for I gotta bone up for Riley. Oh yeah, because we're gonna you know, Riley, it's all different now,

we're gonna bombard pop culture. Were bombard, and I feel that it's in the offing. It's it's like, right there, it's breathing down our necks. We're not trying to throw you off your game at all, not at all. We're just we're just only a little bit, a little bit, all right. I gotta get the guitar. Hang on, okay, everybody, we're back and we're gonna get into a little bit of huppa conversation here, like what, Oh my god, that

was shocking. I didn't realize it came that earlier, or it was a very surprising appearance of of Luke with a hippa and that you Luke put his sort of like his own sort of angst sadness over the marriage aside to make her that extraordinary gift that's hands down going to be the best gift she's ever received. Right, And he's so casual. But I saw a picture of it,

a carved that it's gotta go, you like goats. Yeah, I'm not going, I'm gonna you gotta go, you know, And didn't you think very intentional the scene of the backs of you, your back and Lauren's back. So Luke and lore Lye with the yeah, they're just they're basically just hitting me in the face with it. You know. It's not subtle. It's like the carved to goat, carved

to go. No big deal. Let's stand under the hoopa together, Let's have our let's have our scene where we're talking about the right wand and marriage and how it should be you know a certain way and feel a certain way, and yeah, it just changes you. But you know, let's go back to the not to go away from the hope. We're going to return to the hupet real quick. But Suki got even with me a little bit, didn't she.

She shut me up. Well when I was ranting about marriage. Yeah, when at the at the at the light Sarah stop light ceremony, right, She's like, you called me crotchety man. We're going away from you now, crotchety man. Right, So she got she got even, she got even interesting sort of that she kind of calls you out and she sort of has been in always a loving way. I think she genuinely likes Luke a lot, but she is like, I'm not listen to because that's her girl. He's messing with,

he's getting in her head. You think Luke was doing it on purpose? Do you think he was being manipulative? Well, obviously you know her better than any one, and you know she's not going to marry this dude, right. But I think that was an unconscious attack on marriage. He didn't even know why he was saying that. I mean exactly. How about when Max comes into the diner and you're like, oh, hey, they're good, buddy Brown, you do right? You just think that holds things a joke and it's not gonna work

the lunch menu because we only a breakfast. You're just like, get out of here. There, there's some insecurity there, because why else would he go on a rand about marriage at the ceremony at the supple, right, he sort of flexes with Max. But then yeah, because I think he's I think that's the first time we see him, not the first time, it's the only time in that episode where he's really irritated about it. He's not irritated in front of her and the diner. He's not irritated the Max.

He's irritated in character as a as an owner who's out of sync with how my two girls order and eye rolls and like, are you kidding me with this? I right, well, and yeah, I mean I totally agree with you. And when she asked you if you're going to come to the wedding, you blow it off. It's in a stack of papers. That's why the hoopa was so surprising, because you've made this beautiful gift that actually acknowledges this wedding. That's a hell Mary. That's like I'm

throwing an eight yard bomb. I hope she catches it for the touchdown for Team Luke. You know, it's like he he really is, like it's unexpected how he I mean, if he if it's conscious and he's manipulative um and he's trying to get her off of Max, and and it's not subconsciousness, not just coming out out of sheer frustration. Doesn't even understand why he's saying these things. Then it's you know, it's equally as interesting. But um, that hope of thing. Wow, what a hail Mary, though, I mean,

how do you? How do you not love a person that does some makes that kind of a gesture. Who's got the most to lose? He's she knows how he feels, right, She's not an idiot. She knows exactly how he feels. And the like I said in previous UH episodes, his only move, his only chance to get her is to dismiss it. It's a foregone conclusion and act like he's supportive and good luck. I don't think he you Luke puts her first, so unlike Max, who's making it like

where's my keys? And what's my role? And I'm supposed to parent? Rory you who she knows this is painful, make her not just an amazing gift, but in a gift for the wedding. Who's the better man? Yep, who's the most selfless man? Exactly, which is why she bailed, because she knows, not that Max sucks or anything, He's just not right for her. He was justifiably set. I

don't blame him because it's like considerament. So he got nervous because he may be figured she didn't love him as the way he wanted to be loved, Like why am I here asking for the keys? Like what is going on? You know? And it's like he was justified and he and he popped at her. So that really just shows how hurt he was knowing that this thing is going off the rails. It also just keeps making me think about like when Richard was in the hospital that Luke steps up, tells her to get in the

car handles, everything stays about. It's just Luke is. It's so clear he's always going to do what's best for her, whether she that, whether they're dating or whether they're just friends, it doesn't matter to him. Yeah, so's I don't know if he's a better man. I me take that back. I don't want to say that I'm the better man than Max, but I think maybe he's obviously, you know,

obviously the better man for her. Yeah, And it's like they don't even try to make us wonder it's like, now they're they're punching us in the face with it. It's it's not subtle. Do you guys see me just spit? Did you see the spit? Sorry, I'm sorry, perfect moment. Look, we gotta keep it in the podcast we got that's yeah, Oh yeah, you can keep the spinning. That might be the first projectile that is visible. I actually think it was.

I don't remember. Anyone's spitting or sitting is so not cool. Well, we're gonna have to help coronavirus. Yeah, no, that's very true. Sneezing, coughing and spitting. What do you care how many houses you have? You can contaminate one house and go to the other one. Yeah, coughing went out. No, no, it's not it's not in jogue anymore. We don't cough. We don't sneeze. Remember when we've sneeze and you used to say bless you and now pops knees and you're like,

I'm addie. You're like, don't do it, don't do it, or you just throw a bag over their head and contain it. Right, Oh my god, Riley, get your eye. Am all in anti sneeze bag? Just use the hat to fit over. Is it time for pop culture? With Riley Pelusis it sure is? And speaking of spitting mut spit, these facts throw it down all right? Here we go. We might need to soften that a little bit, just so I can hear Riley hell Man, I just want to play my guitar. Everybody's always going down on me. Man,

I thought I was the show. Here we Go is putting together wedding invitations, and Laura I says, okay, um, what is love? Is it the morning in the evening star? Uh? Roy says Sinclair Lewis. She reads another line and Roy says Lord Byron Harry Sinclair Lewis was an American writer and playwright. In he became the first American to win the Nobel Prize in Literature. Byron was an American English poet,

pure politician, and leading figure in the Romantic movement. Byron had a pet bear that he would walk around Cambridge's campus on a leash. Laura LII follows up with Byron and Lewis together again. This is a reference to the comedy team of Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. Yeah, Martin was terrified of closed in spaces. He flat out refused to ride an elevator and once he actually went out of his way to walk eighteen flights of stairs instead.

Totally understand because I don't go in elevators here. They were huge. Martin and Lewis were like rock stars. They were huge. There were sex symbols. Both of them were Jerrenny. People were trying to rip their clothes off. I'm not kidding the Dean Martin was a babe, but not Yeah, no, they loved him. He did all those wacky movies. Well maybe that was Laura Leon Rory see Max sleeping on the couch during the movie, and they've worn him out.

Laura Lie says, well, we are Electoral Woman and Dinah Girl. Elector Woman and Dinah Girl is a live action science fiction children's television series nineteen seventy six, Cyndi Lauper actually saying the show's theme song, and although said to be a teenager Judy Strangers, Dina Girl was only two years younger than Electoral Woman Deetre Hall. A show I have never heard of, like, never heard of any Yeah, I

had never heard of it. Max is in the Max Another show, Max in the Hospital tending to his brother when they asked why he decided to leap over the parking meter, Max says he's the middle child. Laura Lie says poor jan. Jan Brady was portrayed by Eve Plum in the TV series as well as The Brady Girls Get Married, The Brady Brides, A Very Brady Christmas, and The Bradies. Jan, being the middle child of six, always did her best to stand out and be her own person.

A few famous Jam quotes are Marcia Marsha Marsha Marsia and she said, glasses, Oh no, Mom, not glasses, they'll make me look absolutely positively goofy and the wig episode. Don't be silly, it's a wig. Oh yeah, that's right. She got the dark wig because she wanted to like look different even though she was blonde, very black wig. I love everything Brady Bunch, didn't I tell you guys that I'm afraid I can't look Barry Williams in the eyes. I mean, I don't want to. We won't bring that

up again. It was it was he is he dreaming to you? Uh, like was dreaming, but he just isn't Greg Brady anymore. So for me, it's like I can't, I cannot I can't do it. In the Independence in kitchen, Suki is describing her hangover like a baseball the size of a candalope in your head. Laura Liz says, good one. So he says what Lorrel says, because of baseball can only be one size. So if you're Yogi Barra type thing.

So Lawrence Peter Yogi Barrow was an American professional baseball catcher who later took on the roles of manager and coach. Bara played in more World Series games than any player in the Major League history. I think he's got eight World Series rings. Eight that's crazy. Maybe more. Yeah, And he's famous for malapros and there thank you that way. That one right, his famous one of his famous baseball's half mental are. Another one is when you come to a fork in the road, take it. Oh my god,

I could read those all day. So Rory and Dean are talking about what movie they're gonna watch, and Rri says we can watch Holy Girl and tape again, and Dean says Life of Brian. So Holy Girl. British comedy star filming John Klice, Eric Idle and Graham Chapman, led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Genesis all contributed to this movie's budget and the clapping of coconuts, which is my favorite. The clapping of coconuts together came from the fact that the group did not have enough money in the budget to

afford actual horses. Life of Brian nineteen seventy nine British comedy film, also starring and written by the comedy group Monty Python. When Brian appears nude in front of the huge crowd, Graham Chapman was actually nude in front of two thousand people. Oh yeah, those those guys weren't shy. They were not cheaking of food. We didn't even talk about Kirk wanting to be the photographer and submitting the nude shot. Anyway, keep going right, and he was wearing

a speedop so it's okay. Lorea l talks about how different her night is with Max in her bed. Lorea l I says, no, we're not dying, but the life we had is going to morph into this like mutation that we could never possibly have conceived. Roy says, like giant ants and them. So Them is a nineteen form and black and white science fiction monster film. The flamethrowers used in the movie were entered World War Two weapons

and were loaned by the U. S. Army. The film made the fineless villains come to life using combination of animatronics and puppetry. Yeah, that's interrupting a heck of a way to describe Max and Jesus, Like he's a plague. There's a plague in the house. Basically, like if you didn't know it was over by then, I mean, Jesus, your battery powered right, Like what's going on? It's like, what a way? I mean? Man, did that guy fall

from a lofty height? Didn't he? He fell from the tops of Mount Olympus down into hades Man Max, Max, Laura Leon Rory recite quotes from the movie Billy Jack as they watched with Moss. Laura Lee says, how fast do you learned? Billy Jack? Billy Jackson one Western and second of four films centering on the character Billy Jack, starring Tom Woughlin and Dolora's Taylor. Initially, the movie was a dud at the box office, so Tom Laughlin set

up a rerelease in nineteen. This time it was an enormous hit, and Quentin Tarantino and Brad Pitt Somebody's favorite watch this movie, watched the watch this movie at Tarantino's house to prepare for filming Once upon a Time in Hollywood, which he got in hit. No problem, not Tarantino, I mean if he has to be there at the Queen Victoria Suki says you need to struck Tony Tony Manero when she's taking about the show, which is a Saturday Night Fever reference. So Saturday Night Fever is n American

dance film. Tony, played by John Travolta, ran two miles a day and danced for three hours to get in shape for this film, and the end he dropped twenty pounds and filming was almost interrupted when a local mafia group tried to extort protection from the crew. In fact, the nightclub where they filmed was shot and hit with a fall up small fireball. Right, can you do a classic line from Saturday Night Weaver, He touched my hair. Don't touch my hair. I worked on it for an hour.

Don't touch my hair. He hit my hair, MA, don't hit my hair. And wait wait wait, and and and the local mafia trying to extort money protection protection from you know, people do that if you're shooting on location and they know that they if they're knowledgeable, they know that they can turn their you know, they've plugging their electric guitars and start blasting away, knowing that they're going to come over. The production is gonna come over and

pay him two or fifty to shut up. Constant happens constantly. Yeah, yeah, music blaring? Could you turn it off? Well, you know, I'm relaxing. Oh my god. Yeah, so somebody's shooting a movie in your neighborhood. Just just make all kinds of noise and you can make a couple of my neighbor it all the time, Kirby, Your enthusiasm is like constantly, yeah really, oh yeah, did you guys not watch the first one? It's all the Brentwood Country Mark. Wait a minute,

oh one of your houses in Brentwood. Okay, it's a rental. It's a rental guy doing very well. It's an apartment. It's a rental apartment. Rank the music, and I would never do that to Larry Larry David. No, I love that theme song. No, okay. Max is worried about his role in Rory's life the plague. Max Loralai says, oh, Max, Roy's very low maintenance kind of like that robot kid in AI, only way less Mother Obsessed so AI is a two thousand one American science fiction drama film written

directed by Steven Spielberg. In order to further his non human appearance, each day before filming, any exposed skin, face, arms, hands, in et cetera was shaved and given more plastic look in order to keep the film's PG thirteen rating. A building resembling a male part was digitally moved from the Rouge City set, and Drew Lost studied peacocks and my

movements for his role as Giggelo. Joe, Christopher and Laura Lee are going back on fourth on the phone when they're talking at Queen Victoria, and Christopher lists off all the different music and artists that Max might have on It was just Chriss, says Bono. Maybe Brian Ferry, a young Tom Waits. Are we talking? A dozen soundtracks, a few beatles of Bob Dylan, Atlanta's Morrisette, Dave Matthews, and you have one of Vista Social Club. So some of

these hits going in that order of Vertico. In two thousand four, Slave to Love Nive, I hope that I don't fall in love with You nineteen seventy three, Here Comes the Sun nineteen sixty nine, Knocking on Heaven's Door nineteen nine, Ironic nine, Crash Into Me nineteen ninety six, and Enya seven chan chan And that is your pop culture. Yeah, yeah, so quickly before we run out of time. My quote.

I guess if you can find that one person you know who's willing to put up with all your crap and doesn't want to change you or dress you, or you know, make you eat French food, then marriage can be all right. But that's only if you find that person that's you, Luke, that's your favorite line? Yeah, I like that, the freaking mouthful and it's not even funny. Well it doesn't have to be funny to be my favorite. Yeah, you're right. It's called best lines. Jesus, it's like twenty lines.

That's not is that one line? It's one sentence? Well, it's one read it again, favorite lines. I guess if you can find that one person you know who's willing to put up with all your crap and doesn't want to change you or dress you, or you know, make you eat French food, then marriage can be all right. But that's only if you find that first, and I also find that funny that line two sentences. I don't know if they're quality. Let's listen where that's going to

be under review. That we respect that you submitted that, but we're gonna put that under review. It's two sentences. It's too it's too long. You can do that, all right, all right, all right, Danielle. Okay, so I said my Michelle line already, but I have another one from Suki. And this is when they're going into the club and Rory gets in and she goes dungish on cutie. You gotta pay attention to to McCarthy man. She's quick with

the she's lightning. Mine comes from a bet when she says she can't make the bachelor party, and she says, yeah, we'll stick your hand down the front of some guys pant for me, would you? And then she says and then Laurel I says like a good looking guy or a cute can she goes our stripper and she goes whatever that makes me realize we have to announce our next Hang on a second, what about me? I don't

get to do my favorite favorite line. Of course you do, but this moment is perfect for announcing the Friends Giving guest. Because somebody's sticking their hands down to pants of a stripper. What are you talking about? How's that a perfect moment? It's Sally Strother I forgot it's Sally. Sally is gonna be joining us? November eleventh, Virtual Live podcast Friends Giving November eleven, five pm Pacific, eight pm Eastern Sally Strothers,

Jackson Douglas, Grantly Phillips, and Emily Corona. Boy, it's getting crowded hot in here, it's getting hot. It's getting crowded. Looped live dot com, looped live dot com. That's where you get the tickets. Looped live dot com, l O O p e d live dot com. First I thought Daniel said Luke Live. I was like, true, yeah Live. Well it's it's again Michelle. It's Michelle. If you don't slap him, I will bet he's the best. Next week,

the road trip to Harvard. That's right as that's where they're going now that they jumped in the Oh my god, she gets stopped at the stop, like perfect ending, And that's sort of another iconic Gilmore image, like you on the bench with the three girls then stuck at that it's in the opening credits. I believe. Yeah, you know. I counted how many cuts the girls got in the open I watched the opening credits, so I analyze the opening credits. So it's Laura, it's Lauren first, she has

six photos. She has six spliced edited photos to introduce her character. Six and Rory's and all of them. And then Rory is next, she has five and Laura and Lauren is in all of those but one. So the first so ten, the first ten out of eleven images associated with that show those two dropping good knowledge, good knowledge. I usually click skip it. And then and then Suki gets one shot, and then I think Michelle gets on.

I get one shot with Lauren, and it's say she comes up and says coffee, coffee, coffee, and the first time they keep the same thing the whole seven years they changed. I'm getting to that. And then and then when we get to finally we get to the last two, we get to Kelly, Bishop and Ed they each get

two shots. Oh yeah, but then they did change it, yes, because um, people join, well yeah, people joined, and then um, you know, cast numbers changed, like you got one too, You get a cast number one main cast members whatever. So those numbers changed. The one and the two don't change the but the but the other. Some people get promoted, other people get demotive people on the call sheet? Correct? Correct? Where were you? I think? I think I started out as six on the call sheet and then I became

Did you ever get up to number three? I was number three? Yeah, I think for the last But what do they do with ed Herman? Because he would be like special or something. He would be tenth on the call sheet. He's too special, I think, I don't know. I'll look on I'll look on an old script. That's sort of an interesting to look at the scripts I got. I got all these, you know, I have thousands of scripts. Try and get one for the virtual event for sure. Sorry,

it's just like it's I'll do it. I'll try, you know what. Before we go, I do have one question. Have you guys eaten all that gum come we're talking about? Remember when you moved into your house and the owner left gum behind the owner of my house, So you bought your new house and you told us on the air that the owner left like a huge Oh yeah, we went through that. We went through that, I said, I showed up at the gym or at the golf course or something with a huge like wad and like cheek.

Did you choot gum when you played baseball? Or tobacco? Not even allowed to choose. Of course everybody chewed tobacco. Here's the reason you chew tobacco is in the beginning of the season. It's cold. It is when you're playing. It's not warm. It's very cold. And like if you go to Syracuse and play at the beginning of the season of Rochester's freezing, it can be snow. Yeah, gets you kind of gets you high, it does. I'm surprised they allow it. Seems like a drug. It's not good

for you. I mean you burn, I burn a hole in my cheek. You can get like mouth camp. Yeah, it's not good stuff. But we used to we used to um, you know, we used to wrap it in bubblegum to lessen the severity of it. Uh yeah, So we're chewing and spitting, chilling and spitting, waiting for our opportunity in the cold weather, wearing tight baseball suits. Thank you. The hell of a way to make a living road trip to Harvard a better way to make a living

there is. Thanks everybody. Uh we we really appreciate the downloads and the attention, the emails keeping coming. We're having a blast. Um. Thank you, Danielle Romo, Thank you, Riley Pelusis, Thank you Amy Sugarman. Um the ball Club as I refer to them, the Council, the style counsel. Oh yeah, virtual Thanksgiving. Okay, let's uh, let's give a shout out to Sally Struthers who's joining us, and Grantly Phillips and

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