Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott and I am Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We're florals. Well, you have florals. I have stripes because it's cold. I know you're, you're dressed for October. I am dressed for Whitney's party where I thought it was going to be cold, but they're all outside and you know, they didn't seem
like they were cold. Apparently it was springtime in Utah. That's what that's what Heather taught us. And it the wind was picking up, that might have been cold. Yes. Yes, Brittany had upon her shawl. Yes. Yeah, we, we had to turn our heater on at the house today. We didn't have to, but got home and it was 64° inside the house. I was like, yeah, we could use 6°, use some 70s. So are you glad I turned on the heat? I didn't really notice that. I mean, Oh well, in that case, screw you.
Because it's gonna like, you know, be up in like the 70s or something like the rest of the OR like the 60s and it's gonna be 70s. That's true. It's getting cold overnight because. Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, we need to change from the non Porsche to the non Porsche sheet. We may need to do that. Or she should just make, you know, warm like fleece. Sheets. But do you really need warm fleece sheets if you live in Atlanta? It gets cold in Atlanta. You were there for Christmas. That's true.
You. Maybe we. Should see if Porsche makes fleece sheets. I will. I will check on let's. Look into that. Yes, I'm just happy to wear sweaters again, although as I already told you, I'm a little disappointed in my sweater collection. I need to refresh my sweaters. Well, you might be getting some more sweaters for cruise moves. Well, don't get me too many. We've been spending too much money. I know, I know, Too much money. No more money. Can't spend that. Luckily, Bravo Con's coming up.
We won't be spending any money on that. Dinners and. Hotel. Oh my God, Yeah, we have a payout, Yeah. Airport parking, right? All those things. Right cabs or. Burrs, I'm going to leave my phone in a cab. Not on my watch. Oh. Yeah, probably a good thing we. Won't do. Oh, so I love Heather saying Vegas that's on a vacation, that's a road trip. Well, it made me think from Salt Lake, it can be a road trip.
Like it's only. I mean, it's still a long drive to go from Salt Lake to Vegas, but it's like. Yeah, like, I mean, the vacation should be like, I I'm going to take you to Paris, not going to take you to Vegas. It's actually one that you're, you know, if you're going to be called a gold digger for, it's not a trip to Vegas. If he's got that awesome busman money and then he should be able to like take her to like really nice places. Just cancer. Also, just seeing him talking to
Justin, I was like, he's. Such a goober. Such a goober. I don't, I don't understand what she sees. And we're in love. It's like, are you? Are you really? When he's saying shit like that, No. Anyway, this was an interesting episode and the fact that it started and took place all the same place. Bottleneck, which they usually don't do. They usually do these episodes of except for premieres. So I liked that. It was like, oh, we're all we're at the same place the entire time.
Yeah, bring it because that's when they like really shine or like, you know, just the hilarity and the takes, takedowns and it's just all put together so well. I really hope at that editors panel at Bravo Con, we need you have to have someone from Salt Lake. Oh, I'm sure. Like how do you do all this? Yeah, I could have done without Whitney's little sing songy poem. I mean not.
As clever as I think anyone the. Hoped wouldn't point into the song, no. So I mean, maybe there's just unless, unless there's like something I'm not understanding. But yeah, it could have. I could have done without that. Is the episode title Flowers for Spring groundbreaking?
I don't know. I have no idea what that's going to be. We'll figure it out when we're done, but lead us, Lead us. Yes, basically when he had a party and she wanted to was going through old photo albums and wanted to like get back to her old self and have fun again and you know, get tattoos and drink and get on the pole. And when when she described all those things, she was like, I used to be like, I used to drink and have fun and get on the pole and get tattoos. Like, yeah, you were.
It's called in your 20s. Exactly. That's what it was. And you grew up and you had kids and so. The end, yeah. And that's what happened. I felt really bad for her when she was kind of talking about, you know, how and we're going to jump around because that's what we do here. We jump around, but we're like Cypress Hill. I'd felt really bad when she was saying that, like she, the damn cat just distracted me and I can't remember what I was going
to say. I felt bad for when she was just saying that like, she doesn't feel like she can, you know, be herself and that like, she had like kind of give up a lot of that's, you know, her, her funness. Yeah, I didn't really. Because of Justin, cause like she got his, got him fired and she didn't feel like his equal and all that stuff. So like, I felt really bad. That sucks to have to be like, you know, shove yourself into a
box. And yeah, it's like she felt like she had to be, you know, I am a business owner, so I need to look and dress a certain way. Because when we deviated from that, you know, and Justin got fired because of, like, the salaciousness of that episode. Whatever, whatever. But yeah, the idea of I couldn't be me. And you know, for the last two years and even after all that of pretending to be somebody else, I still failed with this business. And so where am I now?
And that's. The cats are at the loft at the spiral stairs again, so they're fine, they're playing, they're going to be good. Yeah, they're. Going to be good. So, yeah, so just like it. And you're right, it is sad. It's it's very sad. And just to let you know, with with my birthday coming up and us going wine tasting for my birthday, I'm planning on and on becoming fun and and flirty again. And I'm not I'm going to take myself out-of-the-box get. Ready. So funny, like you could never
not be you. It's just. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't think that a bad way like you are always going to be you. What are scabs doing? Don't worry about her, she's a cat. She's got a tail. Helps her balance. Yeah, Yeah. You can never not be you. And like I would ever want you to not be you. If we like started a a wild rose business, I'd be like you still be you. You still be you. How do you know?
I wanted to start a lotion business, actually jewelry ready for Alibaba. It's going to be great. Or Brittany. Oh my God, Goosebumps. How could he know this? Nobody know this? No one knew about my daughter. And maybe strange. Oh my gosh, he must be psychic. So let's talk about Terrence, her wildly gay, overly eager psychic. Or probably. From Key West, I want to meet with him. I you know. Which is so weird because you don't like we. You've had tarot readers before. Like it?
That was that. That was that crappy tarot reader. I had a person I met through work that was a psych. It was a psychic. I haven't seen him in many years. It was back before my current job. Right, Right. Right. Yeah. And like he would. It's funny, like things he would predict didn't really pertain to me, but they. Oh, he's fucking amazing. What they did like, pertain to Ashley. Like he called like certain things and I was like, oh wow, that's really interesting. Could he predict me?
I asked about a relationship thing but like I can't remember what he said. But no, that was like way before you. No one had predicted you. I love how Whitney was like, hey, if I flew you out, yes, I'll do it. Like just immediately. Do you come to Yes? Yes. What do you mean go somewhere? You're going to pay me to do something? Yes. Venmo me the I'm going. To be on an episode of Housewatch. Done. Now I'm going to look him up. Terrence. What was his? Wait?
I'm Terrence the psychic. We can Google him. They kept she kept calling him something other than a psychic. It wasn't psychic. Oh, and he's intuitive. Intuitive, yes. Yes, yes. But I I enjoyed his intuition. Mary did not. He thought she might he might speak of. Speak the devil might speak through him, yes. Yes, because he's a soothsayer. That's so it says in the Bible, yes. So Bible does a lot of things
very. Well, I mean, but also is I think I think it would be, you know, a relevant point that he doesn't not called him selfie soothsayer. So I mean, although the devil can be called by many different names I think. Yeah, it's like you haven't met this person. You haven't like SAT. I understand it was similar. To the voodoo stuff.
Counting, yeah. But voodoo has a much more negative connotation, so I could see those good Christian ladies, you know, not wanting to. I could see though that like if he walked in and was like, hi, I'm a soothsayer, then yeah, red flag, red flag, don't do it. But he's like, come and meet with me if you want. Like, it wasn't like, yeah. He's like, he's like, hi, I brought these really wrinkled cards that I've dropped to the bathtub 100 times. Here we go. But no, I of course Mary wasn't
going to sit down with them. Like it didn't take a it didn't take a psychic to tell you that true Trump, but yes. So yes. So she invites them. All the women meet there. Talk about their outfits. We're going to talk about the location where there's a murder suicide, according to Mary, right in front of the dog, who is never right. Never quite right. It looked like you said like a Hobbit house. Yeah, I mean, it had that weird like, boy, who's that guy who
does the garden scenes the. Happy collabs. No, no, no, no, not the not the happy painter, no those stupid things the that artist would always like have pastoral pictures, like paintings that sell in the mall shops. What's that? Guy, right? What's his name? I don't know who you're talking about. I don't. It looked like Kincaid. Yeah, Kincaid. It looked like a Kincaid gallery photo. Like gone wrong. Like mixed with like steampunk Hobbit Shire. It was really team fuck.
It was kooky. I mean, I could see the whimsy of it all for like being a garden setting and all that. But well, like nobody knew that there were vineyards in Utah. I didn't know either so. I mean, with the success that wineries have across the country, I'm sure that they, you know, if they have a chance to grow any rape, they will. I remember once being in the Dallas Fort Worth airport for work. I was travelling for work and between one of the terminals, they're like, come taste some
Texas wine. And there's like this. It wasn't even, it wasn't even a restaurant or it was like, it was like a kiosk in the mall. It was like the size of one of those. And they just had like bar stools set up. And it's like me and like two other people just drinking wine at the airport. I was drinking. I went at the airport because I was at the airport and I wanted to have a glass of wine, but I wasn't. But to find out, like, oh, Texas wine. Was it good?
As far as wine goes. I'm actually like Texas tea for like, but I really hope it has. Some answer thing is like I'm not I don't have a great pallet for wine. Like even though we live in Northern California and you know, we're exposed to wine, I don't necessarily like oh, this is great. Like is it wine? Yes. Does it taste fine? Yes, I'm trying to taste something else to make it wine rhyme. So why are we going wine tasting
on your? For your birthday, because we've always talked with our friends about how we've never gone wine tasting together for, you know, well, we have, but we live here. We don't go. Often have we not gone wine tasting with this exact group? Of we have, but we've only done it that one time and we haven't done it since, especially since we moved back up here from San Francisco. So that's what I was saying. We've gone with them. We've always talked we should go wine tasting again.
We never. Right, right. OK, but yeah. And what are you complaining about? You're not drinking any wines. I'm just driving, you drunken fools. Look, it's my birthday. I I. Food better be good. It is birthday I. Had to play the birthday card to get you to do this of course. Of course, as you said, you suggested this in like June. I'd be like whatever bro, you get an Uber and call me when you're done. Stop. No, that'd be good, Utah. Wines. Utah wines, Yeah, Pairings. Pairings.
Mary doesn't wine these salmon. Any parasites that are going to make a family in her belly? I like that Heather was like, no, it's smoked salmon, it's already been cured it don't worry about it. Right. It's not like, but it's like the Ralphs. But it's not that sushi does that either. Like, that's everyone's misconception, including yours, about sushi. Is it just raw fish? Well, yeah, it'd be like. Dangerous. But I'm just not like a huge fish person. It doesn't appeal to me. So yeah.
The texture of it is weird and it takes a little getting used to so. Or not. Look, I did vegan sushi with this same group of folks. That's because we and I like by the. Way, which by the way, we argued about we we got in a fight like because we just started dating and you were like, oh, I don't want to. Do that wasn't just started dating, it was that was end of 2017. Yeah, so we've been dating for like 9 months. For a minute. For a minute.
And we didn't get into it like right before we saw that Jessica Chastain movie where she was. We have a good movie. Yeah. What was that one? It looked. Like it was like in the dealings and she was like an expert like. Yeah, that was a good movie. Yeah. I keep wanting to say something, something something Millie. No. Molly. Yeah, Molly's game, Molly's Game. We got there together. Terrific. I love it. Millie. Molly. Yeah. So their looks though.
OK. Their looks I when she said bring the florals right, I thought I was expecting like a tamra floral party like they would all show wearing their florals and no no one really showed up. I mean they kind of like had a whisper of floral and a lot of their. Stuff. So let's break it down. Whitney with the very pink dress, which is like a lot with the bow in the back, right? She's done better. Heather had the Lacey brownish
thing which had flowers I guess. It looked like where those flowers like they look like bells at the end. Oh, like the little yeah, I know. Yeah, that's what it looks like, something hanging off her. Yeah. Actually what they're called. Yeah, so they're hanging off her. I was like, yeah, Mary was in the suit. Very Mary. I don't understand her bangs. That was just. That was just a weird look at the rat that couldn't contain the bangs.
And then I feel like Mary is usually so put together normally, I don't see why she was just like. I feel like maybe that wind that knocked all the flowers off the table may have been acting up a few times or like that may have made her hair. Even I'm surprised that Lisa Barlow actually like, stooped literally to get the flowers and help when they put them back on, I was like, really well. She did it last week and she did it again. I don't like this Lisa Barlow pajama.
That's her aesthetic that like pajamas as. It hasn't always been. I feel like she's trying to make fetch happen with these pajamas. Like it just seems this year she's really pushing hard on these pajamas. She likes a flowy outfit. It's never really she's always pants. It's never very binding, but it. I don't know, It'd be one thing. I think she's. I think it's a serious miss for me because it's not like when.
In the shoes. With that cut of everything being so flowy, I kind of, if it was like 70s, sort of like disco flowy, I'd be into it. But it just looks like pajamas and not even and not like classy kaftan pajamas. It just looks like I'm too lazy to put on something else. And her justification is probably like, whatever, these pajamas are, $5000. Exactly, if not more. And oh, I'm sorry, just because they cost a lot of money doesn't mean they look good. Even Louis Vuitton makes
mistakes. Yes, even Blenciaga makes many mistakes. Trash bag. So, Meredith, what the hell? What the hell was that? What the hell was that? Like she was like, hold my beer Broadway and I'm gonna like be denim flower applique. When she walked in, I don't think I recognized that the boots. We're a part of the. Whole thing and then they did that on purpose they must have because they let Mary do her whole like she looks like germs, which kind of I I see what she's.
Talking about kind of like The Last of Us. Oh yeah, a little. Poroseps on the other place, yeah. And then when she walks in for her psychic reading, you're like, oh God, there's boots that match it like that. It's so much look, it was she really was trying to outdo Bronwyn, which I think, you know, once she took off her coat was a very pretty like butterfly flower situation. Yeah, her hair look good, like a minimal. Like it's so many like she does.
I think what she does over the top of the outfit, she'll do like a minimal makeup. And I think it you know, because otherwise it could be look a little bit drag queenie, right,
right. So. I do like that when Braun, when I mean that, I think that's the difference for like when you're going bold is like just go too much and it's OK. Like even Meredith's outfit, if it like if there would have been something else to bring it over the top and it wasn't just like this like monochromatic kind of blue flower thing, I would have been happier with it. But Bronwyn takes it over the top and I'm like, OK, yes, I'm. That's her personality and it fits like Meredith.
It's so many cuz like I just said, Meredith's confessional with that silver suit looks amazing, right? Hands down the best confessional so far of the season. Like her makeup's great, just like the nice touch of boob, you know, cleavage and it's just so put together and the hair, it's just like, that's probably her best confessional look ever and the best all together of the season for me.
I can't wait to edit a clip together that has to change the captions on Touch of Boob. Because, you know, some people do a touch of boob and it's like, I don't maybe a little more. Let's button some buttons. Yeah, yeah. And then Brittany, yeah, she was there. Exactly. Yeah, It was a pretty color. Yeah. And. And she was there. Nothing special. She was. And what, Angie? I did not like Angie's. Yeah, I. Like, why are you wearing leopard? Yeah, was it leopard? Yeah. Or.
Cheetah or cheetah? It was it was some sort of animal. Floral situation. And I should have known as soon as she like brought that thing and I was like what is she going to do? It's like the scroll. Oh yeah, the. Prop Queen Yeah, like I don't need all that. We'll get to it later, but I don't need it.
I think the first piece of drama that really, really reared its head at the party was why Angie listed her house with someone other than Britain. I think the second piece of drama is Brittany is a real estate agent. Yeah, Is that I? Forgot about I. Forgot. Did we ever really know? I didn't think they were talking about work, right? It's always about Jared and her announcement, so I didn't know that she. Was a real estate yes and I mean I guess. You know what we did know?
Because we this is back when that Salt Lake real estate show was airing and we're like, oh, Brittany could go work for that. Oh yeah, yeah. Awesome. And then that show just disappeared off the radar. So that's probably. That show was that last year or the year? Before that was either earlier it was when Salic was airing, so I think it was. There's had been last year. Maybe they're gonna bring it back, who knows? Maybe, I don't know, it needs a bit more. Yeah.
It did. They need a little bit more. Oh right, because they had the weird guy with the face. Who with the strippers? Yeah, and oh God, he he's made, he went to a stripper. Oh my God. Forgot about the fuck got that guy. That was it was they were trying to make a high 6 drama but it was pretty low. See, very low stinks.
But yeah, I mean, to get, I don't like giving Lisa Barlow credit, but Angie does go kind of low because like, she was going a little bit like mean Brittany just about the real estate agent, like whatever you live in Provo, I live in. And then they descended into this conversation. Which part of Salt Lake City is the most prestigious? That's classic housewives. Like, no, my neighborhood, no, my neighbourhood's the best neighborhood.
I'm like, like, I don't know. You're all in Salt Lake City, UT, so I don't know if. I mean, it's not Beverly Hills. Yeah. But yes, I want to now research the best parts of WE. Utah, we should still take a trip to Utah. I think, again, for anyone who might try to come for me about Utah, and you know, Utah has Utah's nice. I think it's beautiful, it's
lovely. I'm just saying if you're going to argue over what's most prestigious, I don't think you know if you have a whole list of cities going on that Salt Lake makes the top. Where is that socialite lady? She could have been like, well, it's wherever I live. Right, my $5,000,000 mansion or whatever it was. And to Angie's point, you don't sell a $4 million house overnight like you. You don't. I mean, it's interesting that it's been on the market for 200 days. I mean, a price adjustment
typically isn't the best thing. And Brittany had a point that you priced it correctly the first time. So people don't see your price adjustment because we look at real estate all the time and we're like, oh, they had to drop the price because it was probably priced too high. But I, you know, so Brittany knows a bit of what she's talking about, so and she didn't have to come so hard at right. That was a little like, oh, and also it's like, I don't know.
At this point, I'm really starting to root for Brittany as the underdog. And just like, oh, stop picking on her. You keep kicking her when she's down. Stop. It right talk about her hair and all this. Like, I mean, it's fun that it's become kind of an ongoing joke. But like she's like the the Meg of Family Guy. They're just like, oh, we're gonna pick on Brittany. But and also to Angie's defense, it's a very particular type of home. I don't know how many people are. Very specific, yeah.
Don't know how many people are really looking for a completely transparent. Like, do they? Was that like their dream home that they built? For them, no, I have no idea. Yeah. I mean, the problem is there's no railing at the basement. They probably can't get anyone to to buy it. People keep slipping down the stairs. I mean you have people all know about Monica's tumblings, so I would hope she would have put it in the. Rail, I mean, they have to put it into disclosures.
If I was, if I was the rage, I'd be like first thing put in the railing and we're going to get like some good photos of that railing so no one could say you don't have one. I wonder, and they must not for $4 million, they're not having open houses or else every fan in the Valor would be there looking. At it invite only. I mean, not that we haven't gone and looked at $3,000,000 houses in town, but that's because they were part of that agrihood or whatever it was. They were cloak, yeah.
Yeah, they were like $2.8 million. I'm glad that I just go in now and don't pretend that I can afford. Those, I mean it's like they have to expect looky loos and then maybe that looky loo could actually be a real buy, right? You can't just say it's not exclusive enough, right? You know, to, to just say like, you have to like, you know, contact the agent to see it because you're not going to get a sale that way.
And also, now that I don't know, now that Sotheby's seems to be a real estate agency for like just any old house, I mean, it's kind of lost. That used to mean something. I know when you used to think, oh, auctions and lots of money, and now you're just like, oh, might as well be Century 21. So. I'm not. I don't even know if Century 21's still even a real estate. It's looking we still see those sides. I don't know, I don't even pay attention anymore. Yeah, I do. So jinx Yomiko.
So then a glass of. Water. The drama then continues, I think with Meredith saying she needed to confront for a. Second, basically went like this. Lisa, I've heard that you said things about my family. No, I didn't. OK, Lisa, I'm good. Yeah, and then with Lisa doing the whole I don't, I didn't say anything, but I suspect Satan knows what I something. Because, well, Angie was grinning like the Cheshire cat, right?
Yeah, right. But yeah, to call her Satan, unless you're a Stacy, Stop calling people, I said. Yeah, that, that's a bit much bit much. And then that's what bugs me is that Angie? Well, and then before that, like Heather interesting enough saying like, I don't know why Mirror's just like sweeping this other rock. Oh, right, it could be true. Why didn't you say that in scene 'cause she's afraid of Lisa?
Carla, I mean, it seems like from the scenes from next week that maybe Heather does start kind of Lisa about like, you know, you're I mean, it's always it's going to be couch like in sarcasm. Like, you know, you're not the best friend, like you're not you're not an easy friend to have. Yeah, you know, so I'm sure that's probably what we're gonna see, but. I'll be like the first start of this possible downfall of their friendship, but yeah, you're saying.
But why? Why Angie didn't elaborate and take a moment to say no, But you said these things and it means and that's. Why I say exactly what she said, right? Like she had receipts about like, oh, this is the the mean text you sent me. But what did she say exactly to you about digging up dirt about Meredith? Stick to that, right? Because then you might say something that might trigger marriage to be like, Oh, I did say that to Lisa or that is true, right? You know, like, oh, maybe
someone did shoplift, you know? So that's why the only thing I can think of is either they took all that out like they didn't because it was ultimately irrelevant towards the final, you know, blow up of this episode. So either that all happened and they talked about it, but it really went nowhere. So they just decided not to show it because it just got boring because Meredith on her Xanax and Lisa were just like, no, I didn't say that I didn't. OK. All right.
Whatever, say no, because the real fight here, it's not about Meredith. That's just the entryway of Angie. Just trying to like, you know, poke it, Lisa. It's really about their fights. Right, which I don't like that the way it was presented and if this is how it went down, I don't like this about it is that Angie was just like using that. It makes it seem like Angie is using Meredith just to come in, upset the apple cart and cause some sort of kerfuffle so she can go, oh, yeah, and then
you're mean to me too. Like it was just all this so she could miss or redirect to her in this conversation and text about the product and. All that, As we said last week, there was no way that Meredith was going to flip on Lisa, even if she probably does believe there's a kernel of truth to that, right? She and Lisa are on the same side. She probably isn't like many of
the other women in the group. I'm saying this, we're both Meredith and Lisa. So it's like they are going to stick together and you know, they're not going to be best friends like they were like Season 1, but they're not going to have a rift so that they can be used against each other because I'm sure they do know a lot of horrible shit about one another. So it's a friendship of convenience in a lot of ways, I'm sure.
Right. Yeah. I enjoy through all of this that Bronwyn's able to kind of be sitting in the background and like, yeah. And just kind of kind of do what Heather does as well. Just like. Well, she's right. Yep, that's true. They're so similar, Sheena, they're so similar. I like the other ones that including along with Mary are saying like this is stupid. Just say you're sorry and stop hurting each other or trying to hurt one another and we can all move on, you know?
But they were just like as Whitney said, they both wanted the last word. They're just shouting like random shit like the Superman and you know you're I want. To know what the Superman means. At we'll get to a three, I'm sure. And then the you know, the the 12, the 12 was not. No the 12 laces or threads. Threads on both sides and you had a facelift like look like you went through a wind tunnel. So I, I'm kind of with Angie on this though, and that's just who I am.
Like, I don't, I, I can see where the frustration is. I'm not going to let Lisa off the hook. And that's she started screaming at everyone like you've been married to, you've all gone back to her. You've all like, let her get away with this. Like, why do we continue to do that? And, and that's true because Lisa's doing the thing that she always does, which is she has no actual nothing to actually say. So she just starts screaming really loud. About things that may or may not be true.
Right. That isn't what we're talking about at all. And just like Angie needs to be reaching out to a soup company now and make get a deal with some with Campbell's Soup. Actually, I don't eat soup. I don't know anybody who has soup. I don't know of a soup man. I don't know why she's doing this. I get what she was saying of, you know, Lisa says these horrible things. It throws them out and I look like shit, you know, she's questioning my business, questioning my integrity.
I'm a pillar of the community. I don't, I don't appreciate that. And I'm not going to let it go for the sake of the show or this friend group, whatever. And the others are just like, let's just let it go and whatever. But I, I get what she's saying, but at the same time, you have to move on. But also, we know Lisa's capable of an apology. Why can't she just give one to Angie? Ove said. It really horrible things. I don't think Angie wants apology. I don't want Angie to get an apology.
I want Lisa to just admit that she's done horrible things. I don't need an apology from her. The fact that they were kind of, you know, the fact that Lisa walks out without even, you know, saying anything, it's just that was so ridiculous. But it's so, I mean the whole like you talked about like kid, it's like it was not really. It wasn't like she was saying your kid is the reason why your product didn't sell. She's saying you're the reason why your kids product didn't sell.
Because. You weren't doing the thing that you're supposed to do professionally, which is market it. And I think what she said last year about Henry was way worse about how he just stays up playing video games, making it seem that Lisa isn't monitoring her child and. Neglecting him. Exactly. So talking about my kids product that you probably haven't thought about in ages, like, I mean, it's not. They're worse things you could
say. Yeah. I mean, I do see what Lisa's saying about Angie having thin skin because it did seem that Angie, and you reminded me of this, is latching on to this reputation that she's bad in business or she's somehow her businesses are failing because she was like, all my credit cards are my name. And it seemed very important to Angie to like, throw all her credit cards and like. She was like stop throwing your money on the ground throwing cards.
It's like freaking Britney like. And then it's funny, Heather, like I've never actually held a black card, right. I don't. I think I've I think I have once I forget whose but. I've. I think I've transacted. Something titanium card, yeah. I think for work one time I ran black card. But anyway, yeah, I just, I'm tired of Lisa yelling over
people. I, I I'm all for Angie continuing to do it because I think that Lisa doesn't think she's doing or has done anything wrong, whereas I think Angie knows full well what she's doing. And maybe Lisa does too. But the fact is that she won't admit to it. And all she does is all this. What about ISM of like, what about? It's like, OK, we're not talking about that. We're talking about how you are. I think the good point of you can't control Lisa, you can only control your reaction.
So they both have thin skin. They both need to, you know, just let this go and roll off their backs because it's just they're not going to. I if I was Angie, I would just be like, whatever, you're going to say shit about me. I'm not letting it get to me. I'm ignoring you. You know, there are seven other ladies I can hang out with, six other ladies I can hang out with. Like I'm I did too math. I like Bronwyn and they're like, I'm even starting to like Brittany.
No, Angie said. No, Angie said. The problem was like, I'm accepting a hug from Britney. Which brings us to the terrible readings. Oh yes. So what was it, Brittany? He was spot on about Brittany. Who knows where he got that information? That was shady of the editors. Yes. Heather is that she's kind of like new beginnings, like her old. Yeah, and that her love life hasn't been going well. It's kind of. She never shows it, right? Yeah, sometimes Bronwyn was probably like, you know, the
saddest of like. Yeah, you should. Make amends with your mother because you might not have it for very long. And look out for that bread. What? Sorry. Look out for that blood work. Yeah. And that's a. That's a. Really. That was very. Heavy thing to say. Yeah. You know, part of me is already thinking, you know, he's done research and watched the show, so maybe he knows. Well, he wouldn't have known about that stuff is new because this is her first season showing her mother.
Did she say any of that to Whitney or anything? And Whitney pass it on to. Him. I don't think so. I think, I don't think this is a Gin Aiden situation. No, no, no, with endorsements and and whatnot. What was? Lisa's, yeah, which she wouldn't share with anybody because she can't be vulnerable, right? The whole storyline of it all, of John Barlow and they're growing apart, even though they're best friends and, you know, and marriage is hard.
I beg to differ, but. Here, hold my beard now, yeah. That was interesting. Yeah, I mean same kind of thing was kind of Whitney's situation as well, that communication wasn't working well and that she. Was upside down. Yeah, she wasn't really talking to Justin about the feelings that she's having about surrounding her business inadequacies. And that she needs to like go back or not go back but find herself again in a sense, right, right.
And you know, it's almost like you know, be yourself and or love what you do or do what you love and the rest will fall in. Yeah, do what you love and then you're never, never working. I don't. I remember. There's a lot of cliches. We Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was Meredith's? Did we talk? About that, someone may be dealing with mental health issues. And she seemed to be like, uh huh. Yeah. OK. And then? And then it was. Oh, Angie, that the. The horse was gonna get hurt, and then it did.
That was crazy, Yeah. Like she threw the horse, it's leg broke and that was the injured. I mean, I, I hope that's the injured horse. I would feel so really awful as an intuitive to be like, especially, especially if like part of your thing is just kind of leading, you know, following threads to the end and be like, oh, you have a daughter. Oh, that's right. Oh, and she rides horses. Oh, okay. It would be so hard for me to say.
And then your daughter might get in a horse riding accident and then he, he, he was very clear to say your daughter will be fine, it's just the horse won't be. OK, well then we'll just shoot him because that's what happens. I'm. Just like I just got to be so like, I couldn't say that to another person. I don't think I could like, especially in some sort of, I don't know. I know a lot of people don't. I know a lot of people take these things seriously.
As we found out, Tamara on Orange County consults A psychic. Didn't we just hear that on two teams? She was mentioning something about that. I don't think. So we'll we did. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. But anyway, like, I know people take this seriously, so it's not all fun and games, but like in this context for the show, like it seemed to be like, oh, it's a light hearted, we're gonna have a fun party and I want you to come out and tell people. But maybe that's holy.
It was basically, let's go into this room and cry. Let's go through that. Everyone else has to walk through if they need to. Leave that was a horrible setup and just the Whitney 1 though. Just beware of, you know, certain friends that you know and. Your life? Yeah. Can we? My favorite person of the entire episode, The wine Lady came out. I have another wine if you want. As they're like ripping each other's faces off. It was evident to me that Angie at least had had some wine as
she was. I mean, I felt like when she just could not be consoled even after she was removed from the table, that was now that she kept going on and on and on about it. And that's something that like, I don't know, I feel like she was very raw because her inhibitions were down from the alcohol and. And then the, the crying and like, I won't let her do this to
me anymore. And you know, neither one, neither one of them could be consoled like the, the the level of emotion and energy was like out of 30 and they were just like being pulled away. And they're like going back to each other, like finish the fight and then. No. And I think for Angie to have reacted that way to Mary when Mary kind of did that, I think that the only thing I can think is alcohol would have had her
been like, no, this is for real. Like this is the most important feeling I've ever felt in my life. That's the sort of, you know. I have to get this off my chest that be like suppressed by Lisa Barlow and I'm not going to like, you know, right, play, go along and get along, get along. To me, that just sounds very much like drunk verbiage right there. Just like chaotic energy and I as much as it looks chaotic, I'm sure being in it must have been
10 times that. And I understand why Mary was like, I don't like this probably reminds her of her mother. And it's like, I gotta get out of here. And, you know, being genuinely hurt that Angie was like coming at her that way of like, you know, I've had your back, you've had mine. We're cool. And you're just like, lop me in with these other chicks, you know, and this whole like, you want me to kiss Lisa's ass.
It's like, when did we ever say that no one wants you to like for Heather to be like, we don't want you to kiss Lisa's ass. Let me rub your back. But I mean, that must be what it feels like to be in the midst of all that when everyone knows that Lisa's behaves a certain way and puts up with it. I mean, it was something that I, I didn't think of. And I, I was trying to think about that in a lot of ways, what Mary said about. But this is who she's always been Like when you know. Who she is?
When you were friends with her, you were fine with this. Right. Or the fact that like you, and it's not as if Lisa said dig up dirt on Meredith and. And the answer's like, I'm aghast. I couldn't do that to to Meredith. That's unethical. She probably was like, what should I do? Yeah, exactly. Like what? Like if I was married, I would say, what did you do? And she suggested that. Right, Right. Right. Because hello. Now that you're in a fight with her now it's become a moral dilemma.
And I need to confess this to Meredith again. If I was married, too, I'd be like, this has nothing to do with me. Are you trying to like, you know, be on my side or whatever? It was so funny when Meredith was like, here's a here's sort of like, wipe her face. Yeah. So thank you, Meredith. I, I do feel like Angie made it very clear though, that like, I'm bringing this up because I'm, you know, want to cause shit. Like I know that Meredith is
under no delusions about that. So I mean, I get what you're saying though, but. It's not about her. I forgot she was there at the end of the episode. Well, it seemed. Everyone else walked away. I thought maybe they just didn't show. Her. Well, I thought that she chased after Mary, but she probably couldn't in those boots. She's like, let her go, I'll call you. I really, I really hope, Meredith, I'm sorry, I really hope Mary and Angie can get over whatever this.
I feel they'll maybe like haven't argument but get to a good place by the end of next episode. I hope so, I feel. Like they go on the boat. I feel like this is kind of the first time in the entire series that I've seen Mary kind of justifiably upset, in my opinion, where she was like, like, girl, I was trying to help you and this is what I get for it. No, I you're not going to talk to me like that. And like she got emotional. I think you can see that she.
Definitely was emotional, yes. Previously when Mary, when Mary's done things and like you said, no, you know, like when she take Meredith out of the house, right? It just seemed performative, whereas this seemed very genuine. Also too, she's going through like the Robert Junior stuff and so she's probably like when she was like this is nothing. She's like this is nothing in comparison to real shit that's happening to us, right?
This little like who stole someone's credit card or whatever is BS. And you're grown women, you should just like figure this out and move the F on. I keep thinking for. Dumb fights. Yeah but I keep thinking for me and I get hung up on it so much when I know someones lying and just won't admit to it. Like, even if you're lying, like, I'm fine with you as long as you're like not acting holier than thou about it. Like, is it because I, I've had friends who've been liars, lying
liars who lie all the time. And it's, I was always OK with it when they were like obvious about it. But when they started getting, you know, sanctimonious about it, like, and then judging me for something that I did, I was like, what are you talking about? You lie all the damn time. Well, that's the thing now it's roping in you like. So this is what's different from Potomac. Call Stacey a liar all day long. Stacey is not lying on you, right?
However, Lisa Barlow will just vomit lies about you and the heated arguments that's affecting you, right? That's why it becomes your business. Not because Stacey on Potomac Gazer is not married. Yeah, didn't or did not hire some dude to be her boyfriend. That is nothing to do with you. This is like. Yeah, once it was there, it becomes personal because it's like, like I've been overlooking all of your freaking lies and now you're trying on calling me a liar. No, thank you. Exactly.
I think that's where it gets to be the the problem, and I can see Angie's point about it. Also, thank you TMZ for confirming that Stacy's actually divorced. In your face, Ashley Darby. Yes, and Giselle seriously face Yeah, I mean and also if Stacy paid TMZ to run that story, good on you. She still she rise. Now just make that orbit deal. That orbit's gum. Or Altoids, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just just like Andrew soup. Let's just you know. I would love it. Let your.
Haters be your motivators. I yeah, also the whole Karastas conversation like. Oh my God, my best friend who want me to call who? Is Lisa's best friend. I was. I was afraid. I was. I thought Meredith, Sean. I thought Meredith would be like what? What? I thought I was your best. Friend, I'm right here. Don't you see my addendum for all? Of them. Oh, God, when she started talking, when she made that crack to Terrence, Terrence's name. Terrence. She's like, oh, I'm Meredith or,
or should I not have said that? You know, you are Brooks's mother, aren't you? Oh, sad news on. Oh yeah, about Next Gen. with Nick Hudson and. And Ariana, Mariana, I mean, it seems amicable, but you know. Still, probably it's because they have broken up before so maybe they'll get back together. A lot of people were saying in the comments it's Ken's fault. Oh, really?
I think just in journal that, you know, because he was always saying like, not cut ties, but like, you can't, you know, save your brother, take care of her. So that was a bone of contention. But like, where do they live now? New York is very expensive. And he had a lot of money. Yeah, so she moved in with Riley in Brooklyn. Maybe that'd be fun. They're in a they. Need to pick up cameras on that.
I feel like because they're going to be a Bravo con, there's a a big chance that it will be a second season. Right. No, I think so. This hasn't been announced yet. Yeah, exactly. Well, I think we've talked about everything. If we've missed any Salt Lake shenanigans. No, there's a lot to cover, like within this bottleneck of an episode, but I feel like we. Yeah, no, it was good. It was a great episode. This, this makes up for everyone last week going. That's kind of a boring episode.
This, yes, this is not filler stuff was brought up. Yeah, it was brought in.