Cool, awesome. Do you guys want to go first? I mean, I guess so we could do the welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott and we have some special guests with us today. We're also and. We're their guests, Yeah, saw this. Who's who's guest? We don't know. I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is bestie approved. Yeah, it's all working out that's like these, this is like our second collaboration ever. So it's just, you know. Same.
A lot of learning, yeah. Like we've, we've been guests on one other podcasts and like, I didn't even know that was a collab. Like I think it was just us being guests. I don't really I, I never got the like the audio from that. No idea what happened with that. I don't even know if it got published if I'm being honest, but. I'm just talking. And it's what we're best at. What's the last song that
everyone listened to? I don't know if I told you guys about this, but like, this is something cute that Emma and I do at the beginning of every episode. What's the last song about the V listen to? That requires me to know the names of the bands that I listen to. I I'm pretty much at at the will of Spotify, playing things randomly at me. I'm like, oh, I like this song. OK, I love. That what was. I. Apparently I listened to Scarlett by Holly Humberstone
most recently. That's the what I'm into. Jeff was probably listening to some disco fantasticness on. The way to a podcast like On the Way Home. So but before that, I think the last, gosh, what was the last one? It was my like song, which is like 500 or 600 songs. Just pick one, anyone. Which ones your vibe right now? It's really like a mismatch or a mash up of like I, I don't listen to a lot of current stuff. So it's just like a lot of, you know, maybe 70s or 80s or 90s or 2000s.
And so you're like an adult contemporary radio station. Pretty much like there's like beautiful few people that I will listen to, like encourage people, but it's really, you know, far and few between. So it might have been some it was an old song, but. What about you? Guys, that was also old. It was Fade Into by Mazzy Star. Oh, that's a good one. It's a good one. It's on my list. Mine is fairly old, like 20-12 ish. Better than that. The Dave Outie remix by or Yeah by Sub Radio.
Yeah, I lost on that one. Very gay, very gay. Do you guys just like want to jump into the episode? I feel like it was a pretty big episode. Unless there's anything on anyone else's minds before we jump in, 'cause I don't have given the current state of the world, I don't feel like complaining about politics right now like I. I yeah, no, same. Same. Absolutely, yeah. Getting into that episode is probably a better place to go. Perfect. I was going to tell you
something. I just like read something before I like hopped out of the car but. What did you read? I mean Kimmel got a show cancelled. Well, that Jimmy. Did he get his show cancelled? Well, he got pulled indefinitely. Definitely. Yeah. It just happened. Yeah, That's crazy. Everyone's favorite. Yeah. Right, because I can tell you the last time I watched Jimmy Kimmel. I mean, that's true too. Same. But I do enjoy him as a. Host. I do too. And I enjoy free speech so.
But we can go like a whole down, like a whole sad Rd. about that. So sorry. I had no idea. That's crazy. It just happened. I think I, I just saw it like I was off the stoplight, you know, once I got off. Looking at your phone? That's fine, that's cool. I got off the road, so I sent. Tik Toks to Emma while I was driving before. It's fun. Yeah, I have watched. Him be in reverse and launch TikTok on his phone and it's like godspeed I guess. Godspeed.
It's a real talent. Jesus, take the wheel. Actually though, cool so. Guys. So yeah, where? Where did the show start? That's it. So every week, Scott says that to me because I'm because. Well, I don't remember. I don't remember shit. I really just don't remember a thing at all. I'm like I know we just watched that but like how the show started off and usually where we end up by the end of the show 2 totally different places. And so he'll say that and I'm like, oh, where did it start?
So that's kind of the cool thing that Salt Lake City has done the last couple of years is they've like pretty well contained it all inside of like a capsule episode. They're not all over the place. It's not a ton of different scenes. But we start and end on a camping trip. Basically. Angie K picks Mary up in a little RV for a little getaway. And I guess they, like, they tricked all the other women into getting on this RV excursion with them.
And I love that so much because I'm obsessed with the idea of an RV trip. I've told him about this a million times. Like I want so badly to like drive across the country in an RV. I've always wanted to do that too. And I always thought like, oh, thanks a lot. You know, MTV and road rules and all that stuff like this gave me. I just always wanted to. But of course, no challenges along the way. I don't need those. I would do like one or two
challenges. Go ahead, Sir. I would hate to be surprised by it though, like I need to know being close quarters with nine other people before I launch into it. There's no way I also feel like. For that, yeah. Mary is allegedly Co hosting this thing. I feel like she honestly just said she would Co host so that Angie would tell her where the fuck they were going. Oh, probably. Well. That's accurate.
And then she didn't. And I, I love the way they present like, but yeah, like I bought an RV three years ago because my husband told me to. And now I just had the great idea to like, take the women on this RV trip. They had camping real plaster all over the front of this RV. Like it was very clearly something done by production. And it's fine. I I I can I can deal with the illusion of some of it her. RV that they showed was not the
RV they were in either. No, it wasn't 100%, but so they all show up. They or they, everyone shows up at Beauty Lab and Laser, the holy place where Jen Shaw got arrested. They're all waiting out front. We find out that Angie, Whitney and Bronwyn aren't getting along with baby gorgeous Lisa, which is, spoiler alert, why she's not on the bus and. No, it's because she's working. She has work to be done. She. Is with Blake Lively OK? A Blake and Ben, But Blake and Ben. Sure.
And to be fair, I did see pictures of them together on Instagram. But like, OK, like whatever. Whatever you need to tell yourself, baby. Gorgeous. What else? I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell from your notes, like where Lisa Barlow like ranks and like your your hierarchy of the Salt Lake housewives because you were you had a lot of notes that were like, I love her. I love her but also like I don't know if I can.
That's where I struggle so much. And Emma will tell you this, I, I like the idea of Lisa Barlow. I imagine in real life she's probably one of the most fun people to be around. I think she's probably incredibly generous. I think she's wonderful. I think she has a very, very hard time not being the alpha dog in some cases. And I that's, I think that's where you get a lot of the, that her screaming at when you're lying, you're lying. And like, I can't handle when someone needs to control a
narrative. And I think that's how she's been presented on the show, for better or worse. So I really, really want to like her. I really want to like all the women. I don't have a problem with anyone except for Brittany. You, I'm sure you could tell from my notes that I cannot stand Brittany. But everyone else I really, really like. And I want to like Lisa. Right. No, agreed.
I think I don't know. We're irritates lever living snot out of us, but she's one of the ones that's supposed to you know, you're I don't think you're supposed to worship everything that she does. And I think that we're like, I'd rather not, but she does a good job of doing what she needs to. Do I don't know, I feel like you can look at a lot of people's pages on Instagram, particularly Queens of Bravo. You're supposed to worship Lisa and that she carries the show.
So I was glad she wasn't on the episode, but I knew they were going to talk about her and I knew that everyone was going to was going to say they can't go one episode without talking about Lisa. Lisa's carrying the show even not without being there. And I hate that narrative because I think they all pull their weight and they all have have something to add in its ensemble show.
And it's not just the Lisa show. Like there's no housewives or there shouldn't be the housewives where it's just like insert person's show. I agree, I think. If anyone wasn't there, they would have talked about her. It didn't matter who it was. Yes. Yeah, I agree. And I think that's what I like about this show is like, I think they are all equally matched in
this show. Like I don't think there's one person that carries it. And there's like you, you can make the argument about Mary in seasons what, 3 and 4 where she was like not on the show and then she was a friend of like I'll, I'll buy that with Mary. But like I also think she did not want to be part of the the show and she had more going on in her life cause we see what happened in season 5 with her son. But like I I I think everyone there really holds their own way.
Anyway, Brittany's back this year and I hate that, but part of me does love that she saw this invitation and she took it for face value and she showed up in a bikini under her coat and she said I'm Britney Spears. Look at me like. I loved that. Did she really? Yeah. I loved her little fit. Yeah, I kind of yeah. I enjoyed that. That was the one thing I was like, OK, you're funny, Brittany. The thing is about Brittany, she's an actress, so I think she. Is she is a Broadway girl? Yeah.
Yeah, she, I think a lot of this is like her acting and playing the part of a housewife. And I wonder, I'm like, are you really like this or are you just like giving a performance? OK, so now that you're saying that out loud, like that reframes my the entire way I think about her because like now I'm just like, oh, she this is the whole like the the her giving the toast and the her like. I can't. Even say it last season about Jared Osman. Like that, that, that whole song
and dance. Now that you're saying that, I'm like, oh, maybe there is something to that. You can see the acting. She's acting. Because she's not that good at it. I mean what? Bless her heart, bless her, bless her little heart. They so they all get on the RVI was so obsessed with all of it though. Like I want to be on an RV so bad. And they do a little flashback. Emma, have you, have you gotten to the point in season 2 yet where Jen Shaw got arrested?
Yeah. OK, so they do the shot for shot like reenactment of the, the SWAT team showing up and they're like, and I, I want to know who all knew about this in advance? Cuz like I could tell Heather was acting. But the whole oh, the, they, they show up and like, and then you realize they're strippers. Like I was fine with it, but like up until the moment that I realized they were strippers, I was so mad. I was like, I don't want this. I don't like take this back. I don't want this on my
household. So yeah, but I. Immediately knew they were strippers did. You really? Yeah, the SWOT thing it gave like FBI female body inspector. Vibe. OK, so maybe I'm just like too naive, I don't know. But like, one of those strippers is a little thick and I was super into that. For like half a second I thought like, wait a minute, is this an actual like, are the police out there? Is there something like is the is the RV in a no parking zone? I thought it'd be some crap like
that, but then I was like. I thought they were just like showing up to like, oh, look, it's like we're we're doing a funny little like bit like I, I thought that's what was happening. But like the thick stripper, really I was like, I'll take it. That's fine. I do like Whitney though, I think she's so funny. I liked Whitney a lot this episode. And then that was like, that was a good set up.
Yeah, that was a good prank. It took me a minute with Whitney on this episode cuz I was like, I think I had a bad taste in my mouth from like the last couple of seasons on her healing journey. Like I was just like, I don't like, I don't, I don't need it. But like, I, I was really surprised at how vulnerable she was able to be. Like with everything that's gone on with the business. And like I I was, I became a big fan of Whitney this this episode. Well, she's on her.
She's on her filling journey. So her business failed. She. Failed and. On a filling journey. My favorite moment of the show around that fire pit. We'll get to it later, but when she says I'm not ready for a hug right now, that was my favorite moment of the whole that. Was actually, I wrote that down at some point. That was very good, she said. I don't. Like she stopped talking. She's like. It was the face she made for me.
I was like, yes, we're back. To be sobbing your eyes out and be like get off of me. They get into Lisa not being on the RV and and she says it's because she had a work thing. But then we get a flashback to Lisa on FaceTime flat out saying she doesn't want to spend the night with Bronwyn. I how do you guys feel about Bronwyn? Let me ask you this. I like Bronwyn a lot. I think she bought a lot to the show last season. I like anyone who can. I feel the other woman to a
certain extent. Maybe not Angie, maybe not Whitney will just like back off when like Lisa comes at them. And the fact that Bronwyn, I think it was when they were in Palm Springs and she was just like, what was the line like? You're doing your job like. You expect me to like ride your Dick like it's my job. Like I was like, yes, yes, give it to her. Like give me that head shake. Like all that was was was good for me.
So the fact that Lisa's saying I don't want to be there because Bronwyn's there, it's like really you've had bigger beefs with like Heather and Whitney, like, why are you acting as if Bronwyn is like the most is the worst thing ever? So I thought that was just dumb like, and it's also it's well, two things. One, it's your job. I know you have a real job, but this is your job to go on this cash trip. So I don't know what you're
thinking there. But then I also read, and this may not be true, but you know, because it was on Reddit that someone was saying that she was still in contract negotiations when they started filming and so that's why she wasn't on this episode. Did you see that? Oh no, I didn't see that. I remember that. I remember that being an issue when we heard they started filming is that she wasn't yet finalized. Interesting, was it? Wait, Bronwyn wasn't finalized?
No, she was trying to play hardball, I think. Or maybe she successfully did. Yeah, interesting. Because otherwise I feel like she would be like, I, I hate, I may hate all these chicks, but I will at least show up because it's my job. But if she's still trying to negotiate to come back on the season, then you're not going to appear and they're going to keep rolling with without you. Well, that's the interesting thing. And like Emma and I have talked about this.
We talked about this with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, with Taylor not going on with the cast trips. We're like, that's a different beast from the housewives because the housewives will just like cut you out. Like they'll be like, OK, well you didn't want it that bad, so friend up I guess. No call, no showed girlfriend.
Yeah, I think that's why, like, Heather was so pissed at Bronwyn for not inviting her on that Palm Springs trip last year, because she was like, I would come, but if you're not inviting me, I can't come. Therefore I'm not in the episode, therefore I'm not going to be paid for this episode. And you're really screwing me. That's true. Yeah. But so they get into that a little bit and we get more into that a little bit later.
Because I think, I wonder if part of it was also like, she just like didn't like didn't want to deal with the lawsuit stuff because like, I, I don't think she wanted the same treatment for better or worse, that Jin Shaw got it.
Cuz I'm, I mean, the way she, granted, it's a very, very different situation, but the, the way that they just hung Jin Shaw out to dry with the lawsuit stuff, I don't think Lisa wanted to put herself in that situation where the woman could say anything similar to that about her. But I I think aside from Jen Shaw, Lisa always does this thing we were just talking about where she's like so worried about her image and like the PR of it all that she like, well,
things are pending. Maybe didn't want to have that conversation. I'll buy that 100%, yeah. That makes sense too. Yeah, yeah. But we also get into a fight between Whitney and Brittany. Yeah, Whitney and Brittany about fighting, about Whitney's business. And I don't like Brittany bringing this stuff up because I'm like, Brittany, you don't have a business. I shut up. I want to hear your mouth. I can't stand her. And then we cut to Angie K drinking tequila straight from
the bottle. And I loved it so much. But the fight de evolution because she started pouring shots and then the girls start fighting and like then you see her just. Devolved into like. Streaming I kept trying to see like if there were if the bottle kept going full, empty, full empty like during different cuts just to kind of see like how consistently they were or were not drinking, but I didn't really catch anything. Yeah, this cast drinks like this cast.
It's, it's not like some of the women on Beverly Hills, and it's not like I, it's not like some of the women in Potomac, like this guy's drinks. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I was surprised that, oh, sorry, I was. I was. Please go ahead. I was surprised by Brittany's like, such, her strong defense of Lisa. And they're like sisters now and like, how dare you besmirch her name. Whitney. I was like, what?
Where is this coming from? Brittany was trying to get a a permanent spot as a as a housewife and not a friend of that's what that was. I can definitively. Talk. Yeah, that's where she would. I don't think they're actually friends. Let me tell you, I do not I I the, I think the only sisterly thing that that Lisa Barlow has ever done to Brittany is looking at Brittany and saying you do need Karastas, their matique when they were when she was told she had high body count hair.
I do not think that they are that close outside of that. Do you think any of them are? Action wise I. I think Heather and Whitney are probably friends and I think cousins. One, what'd you say? Cousins that they are cousins. And I think that Angie and Mary are very genuine friends. I don't think any of the rest of them were that close. I think that they they all knew
each other peripherally. And I think that's what makes, I think that's what starts to make for a really good cast on Housewives is they know each other, but they are still figuring each other out. I guess I don't. Know, yeah, that makes sense. But the one that gets to their campsite and I have a place like this, like a mile from my house, like look, I was like this. I, I, I know this place. I can smell this place. It's awful.
It's miserable. There's absolutely a school bus outside of this place It. Is it was a rugged. Yes. And then Mary just goes, I don't like it and I love. I'm like, OK, Hostess. Did you feel for any moment once they pulled up that like they were just going to stop camping that at any moment they're like, just kidding, we're going somewhere else.
I mean, forget the fact that you we saw the trailers and we knew probably didn't happen, but did you think or hope for a moment that maybe I. Maybe a cabin or something. Honestly, I really didn't think they were going to campfire dinner. Yes I do. Are you weeping arrangements too? Like how are they cramming them all in there? Are they doing it like traders style where half of them are going off to a hotel once the cameras stop? Yeah, true. I don't believe they spent the
night there. I'll be real with you. It was an hour away from home. I believe they probably either like went to a Marriott that night or like went. Like a DoubleTree? Yeah, yeah, I think a courtyard suite. At least give them AJW come on. One of these other tropes I don't love. Brittany brought camcorders for the girls and why I think it was Carol did this in New York when they all went to Turks and Caicos. I don't need that. Like you're surrounded by cameras.
Like it's OK, babe. Like, like we're watching you on TV. It's OK, I. Mean she was clearly trying to like take the narrative back that like I'm the one she tried miserably like I'm the one who's known as recording people and it's like why did you? Bring Yeah, we know. Yeah, that's why we hate you. Bring up your own dirt like that I was. Like, yeah, it did. It did give us a good flashback to Meredith going you, you need to go. You're despicable. Like, because I will.
I love Meredith when she's activated and oh God it's good. That angle was like you need to go. You need to. Go. I've had enough of you, beast. I love when they talked about that later and Meredith goes we talked on the phone twice. We went to dinner one time. You're not trying to think about. How they were good friends.
So then we go back into Lisa not being on the trip, and then we get a conventional from Heather, and then the women start to get into some of the accusations and lawsuits, and they're 100% gonna make Lisa Barlow the villain this season. Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know anything about these lawsuits actually. Like I don't follow her as regularly as. I only do cuz I listen to the Bravo docket about. All of them. One time, so they really filled me in on it.
OK, I haven't heard that episode of the Bravo docket. I do need to go back and listen to that cuz like I did right down at some point, like this calls for a less research Mama because I love nothing more than to like go Pete like a line by line over a lawsuit. Like I, I'm applying to law school. I'm so excited about that. Like like this is like I'm obsessed with this stuff.
But I remember something about like they were suing the tequila brand like one 'cause they have like two or three different offshoots of Vita tequila and it's like one of them is like Jack Henry spirits or something. I know they were in some kind of litigation. I don't remember what for but like. I think it all has to do with like loans and things that John took out on behalf of the company and vice versa. And it just, it's really technical. If I recall, these are the same
ones. OK, Do you, do you think that their entire life is like, and I, I hesitate to ask this like in this way, but like, do you think that most of their life is like on loans? Because like owning A owning a liquor company does, unless it's like skinny girl, you are not making that much money. Yeah, I'm pretty sure most everyone on the show is on varying degrees of loans, but that's, you know, how some people do it. They're just, they learn to juggle all that back and forth
and. I think you're right. I think they are living on loans because this isn't, you know, José, José Cuervo. Well, I mean, it's you. Know like yeah. To be fair, I mean, she does have the marketing company. So like I, I'm not saying that they're like destitute in their entire life as bankrolled by
credit cards. Like I, I don't want it to go out that way, but like I, they, the way it is shown on the show, they have money like, and so I'm like where I don't know, like I, I hope, I hope it's not like the entire, the wheels falling off of the entire operation. Well, from I don't see that being the case, but. I think she's screaming about her money all the time too, which is annoying. Like it's a whole like wealth whispers, you know? Situation. Money talks, Wealth whispers.
Yeah. Yeah, from what I tried. Though no, sorry, sorry. Oh God. No, I was just going to say it's the businesses that are being sued. It's not her. So like, OK, she probably has her Bravo money and whatever money in her name. And she they might have been bankrolling the businesses a little too tight. You know, that might be all. Maybe. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Her Wendy's money. And she did have a a brand deal with Carousel Star Boutique, too. Yes, and her hair is great.
I will. Let's if I had to say 3 nice things about Lisa Barlow, it would be her hair. Great. She's a great mom. She's a great mom and. She's really pretty. Yes. She's a hard fighter. Scott, you put into the notes, can this please be Elisa Barlow? I mean, and it I mean it's going to be, but I do worry that it's somehow going to like flip it around later and at least has to somehow become the victim of it all. So I do want it to be just a full on takedown season.
I think though, because we're seeing this with OC you, it's really a mistake to like for everyone to pile on one person because the audience is going to just shift in that direction. So if they were smart when this is playing out, they would should be, you know, just like just here and there fighting. Not like I don't need the entire cast to be against her, which they won't like, you know? The entire cast isn't against her because if you will remember, Heather defends Lisa a
little too hard. I know. It reminded me of how she defended Jen Shaw within an inch of her life. I agree and then the second that, and this is I love Heather like I gun to my head. Heather is one of my top five favorite housewives across all
of the cities. This is the one thing I don't love about Heather is like I, I was listening to, I think it was broad pros and they were talking about how Heather so desperately wanted to be best friends with Lisa in the, in the first couple of seasons And, and Lisa was so just mean to Heather and Whitney, like a mean mean. And they, I, I think now she's like got the chance and she's like, I'm not messing this up. Like I'm going to be friends with Lisa and like, so I I don't
know. I think you're right. I bet that doesn't make sense. I still don't understand why they all need desperately to be friends with each other at all like. Well, specifically Lisa Barlow, we've had, we've talked. About this Before, like with Jen, everyone needed to be friends with Jen Shaw. Like, oh, I have to be her friend. So what's so amazing about Lisa Barlow, you know?
My theory and like I'll buy this about Lisa too because like in the first couple of reunions, Lisa does talk about and she talks about it on Monica Garcia's reunion too, where she's the reason that they brought the show to Utah. Like she had friends in in production and casting and like she's like come here and the the theory and Emma and I have talked about this. The theory that I have about Jen Shaw is that she was presented as the person this show is being
built around. And like if you if you know she's she's in a lot of situations she had no business being in. She's in a lot of scenes. Like I mean, she's in basically all of the scenes in the first season and the entire thing is built around her. So I'll buy that like they like because you know, they do this with every, every housewife city where like it's, it's not housewives to begin with and then it becomes housewives. I'll buy that. It was like a a thing about
businesswomen. And Jen Shaw was like the main businesswoman. And they were like, Oh no, this is housewives. Right, right. So Karen Huger of Utah. Yeah, where it's, yeah. Karen Huger was the grand Dom of what what it was supposed to be like etiquette or something like that. Yeah. So like I'll buy that that we're in the same situation, but what else? Oh, and then like Angie and I didn't like this Angie. I let me just say I like Angie K as controversial as that, as
I'll like Angie K and. Controversial, I don't think. Yeah, how was that? Some people she's fan, some. People are so annoyed by her. Really. I mean she is a pillar of the community, but other than that, I mean what'd she do wrong? She's. A very long face. You know, she's like 4 foot nothing. We saw her in real life, and I can, Yeah. Yeah. She's in short, Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, but she did compare Lisa's lawsuit stuff with the Gin Shaw situation, and I did not.
No, I should. She should not have gone there. I don't understand like why even bring up Jin Shaw's like I was like kind of like why are you even like bringing up Jin Shaw? Like these are two separate incidences, 2 separate people like incidences. That's not important. Where'd you find out who actually punched her and gave her the black eye? The story unravels.
But. Just like like someone said in their confessional, they were like the state of Utah and the United States of America are not concerned with Lisa Barlow. Like don't even start. Meredith, the attorney did say that. But what I, what I will say, the fact that they keep bringing up Jen and the fact that they're leaving this all and they're 100% bringing her back when she's released from prison, 100%. And I pray to, I pray to God they do.
I would disagree with that only because I don't think anyone's willing to film with her. I don't think the network necessarily likes her, and I think you can and can't get past elder fraud. Yes, Yeah. Like with Teresa, like, she's screwed herself. But like, Jin Shaw was like, taking money from, like, poor elderly people who didn't know any better. So. Karen Huger had her 4th DUI though and they picked Bravo, picked cameras back up to go film her being released from prison.
I think Karen's a more sympathetic figure than Jin Shaw. There's the fact like. A lot. I agree. I think a lot of viewers hate her too. Like hate her. And also, Karen had like what, seven seasons in her before she went to jail? That's fair. Wrecked Theresa too, yeah. Maybe I maybe I'm just holding on to like, and Emma will tell you this about me, like I hold on to like the image of people that I think they were and like that I that I loved about them.
Maybe, maybe Jim Shaw is just like just not coming back and I and maybe that's fair. Well, we're notoriously wrong for predicting things horribly so, you know, don't let that prediction stand. I would love to see her because I think it would be messy and it would be great television. Do I think it's morally correct? No. Fair what I what I do desperately want.
Do you remember the episode of Mob Wives where they were like all getting together at the round table And I think it was Rita comes in and goes Karen stand up and like just starts running after her to beat her up. That's what I want from Jen Shaw and Heather. Where like where Like Jen Shaw comes in and she's like, so who gave you the black eye? Heather would run so fast.
There should be like friend. I mean, maybe I'm going back a friend of. But the $4 million necklace comes up and I, I was under the impression and like, maybe I'm an idiot, maybe I'm naive. I thought Bronwyn owned that necklace. It comes out that she lied about it. And what, what her, her, the way she presents it, she didn't mean to lie like, oh, it's fine.
She didn't mean to lie, but the way it came off was that she was lying and I was like, OK, at least she's owning it because like she, I mean, she does say like I was going to buy another necklace. I didn't think the women would notice like this, that and the other. And like I, I appreciated that because it felt like she came clean about. I think with, sorry, I think without was saying it, she said. I was doing, I made a rookie
mistake. I did housewives wrong in that respect my first season and I was trying to like present something that wasn't true and, you know, compromised her integrity. Like the fact that she said that, I was like, Oh my gosh, someone actually say that Say I lied. It was wrong. I went against like who I am just to impress these women and then without saying it, but just to impress the audience and like, you know, do housewives and be like this rich chick.
And, you know, I love that she owned it. And, you know, like, just for anyone to admit they lied is really rare on housewives. So I think between her and Whitney, I was like, whoa, I think I'm returning to you. And be like, the honesty on this episode.
Astounding. Of Bronwyn, because I am at like the end of Season 2 right now, so I haven't watched 3-4 or five and I yeah, so she's new to me. And I was like, oh, look at this woman owning her shit, calling herself immature, admitting that she did something for the cameras, OK. So in general, you watch this episode just for us. Yes. Oh wow, thank you so much. I hope we didn't have major spoilers for this one episode. Yes. And like, pretty much.
It's all been spoiled for me anyway because I'm on Twitter too much. Yeah. Jeff had to get off Twitter for the longest time. He's like, why do I keep going on here? It was just I I can't offer my. Twitter in public so. Same for probably some more reasons why. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, I, I, I guess I don't get as much housewives Twitter anymore, which is good because it was just too toxic. So I stick to other stuff, which just makes me more happy. Reddit, fair.
Reddit is where I get my housewife stuff. Well, that's that. Like even then I'm like, I need to like avoid this because it's just not doing me any good. I have my opinions, others have their other opinions. I don't need to hear that. I'm just going to get fired up, you know, So, yeah. Yeah. We get Brittany doing her classic Ting Ting Ting like with like the this is the reason I hate her. I'll tell you right now. This is why I hate her and she goes well, Jared and I got engaged in Emma.
I don't know if I told you about this, but Jared Osmond is Donnie and Marie Osmond's nephew, and apparently in Salt Lake City, being one of The Osmonds is a massive, massive, massive deal. Like, God bless. He was so excited to be connected to The Osmonds and they got engaged and then broke up two weeks later and they're still dating. It's so tiresome. It is beyond tiresome. And it again, that's why it has to be her shtick, like she has to be putting this on because there's no way.
There's no way. No one's actually like that, right? I think, I hope not. I think she's hopelessly devoted to to Jared. Yeah, I think that's real. I guess the one, one of the few real things about Brittany is that she is like obsessed with this man and it's a really toxic relationship and that she's not getting out. She's living her own Lifetime movie. That has to be the fattest fucking Dick then. I don't know why. Like I mean. I don't know, something makes me
think otherwise. I just don't see it. I never really thought about Osmond Dick, but I have to say. I thought it was like a financial thing because again new to Britney, hated her in this episode but from what I've gathered she doesn't really have anything going for her so I thought it was like AI need someone who has income to be living with me type of thing. Maybe I don't, I don't know, but I. Love these fresh takes.
Like I assumed Brittany had like Brittany was in a similar situation to Heather after her divorce where she was just taken care of because I mean like we get a scene in season 5 where we go to her house and she's in a nice, nice, nice house. So like, I just assumed that it was all from her accent. Maybe it is from Jared. I, I don't know. But like we, I assume Jared's probably taking care of like 5 other girls too because we find out that he's running around the
Lifetime Cafe with other women. And I also love. That Whitney works out. At the same gym I do. I also loved Whitney for being like that's weird because. Yes, and she was so comfortable doing it too. She was like, I'm diva. He's in the Lifetime Cafe all the time and he's not on the machines. He's not looking up a sweat. Honey, I love it. I was shocked she said it like as if she was saying something so casual like where she went to lunch yesterday.
She was like oh your your ex fiance introduces me to his dates like. What? I think that's how much we really don't think that Brittany's serious that they're just like whatever like every other other women. They will like kind of be discreet at times with each other, but with Brittany non-stop, they're just like whatever you crazy person that's. Insane. I also love that Scott, you called out in the notes, I like you're jealous of the jealous of the publicity and the fact that
they still sell chicken salad. Lifetimes. Chicken salad is so good. Actually, it is incredible. So I, I bet that it is. So what the one of the companies that I work for, we own luxury health clubs. And so there we're always talking about lifetime. We're like, oh, lifetime this lifetime that. Like, oh, is it like lifetime? And we recently kind of paired back our Cafe so we no longer make things like chicken salads.
And so when when they started going on about it, I was like, well, that's what's going to make lifetime more successful, that chicken salad. Incredible. It's got like a little lemony to it. It's very good. See, I miss, I miss when there is quality food at the gym. Fair, I'll give you that. We get to the obligatory We're going to do an activity scene. Whitney, Meredith and Bron. I'm sorry.
Whitney, Heather and Bronwyn go kayaking and then Mary, Angie, K, Meredith and Brittany go fly fishing. Whitney forces Bronwyn and Heather into the same kayak and I I this, I like Whitney because she's not afraid to get messy. I like it. And, but like, at the same time, I also feel like Bronwyn and Heather could be very, very good friends. I think they are equally matched like when it comes to intelligence.
And I think they're both so well spoken and I think they have like very deep personal trauma and stories that they can share, like to benefit, like the world. And I like them Better Together than I like them fighting, I'll be honest.
Agreed. I think, I think last year we were saying that like Heather might have been not threatened, but like I think caught off guard by the fact that Bronwyn is similar to her and is very intelligent and is very good because Heather's really good in a a verbal back and forth and Bronwyn gave it back to her. So I think she was like, oh, so wait, that's my role. What are you doing? And so I think that's OK her off of her.
But yeah, like me out of like, you know, the religious trauma and, you know, similar experiences and, you know, being smart and witty. Yeah, they should be a great duo. And I, I don't, it was uncomfortable when they weren't, like when everything Heather went over to Bronwyn's house and they just had that very awkward, awkward encounter and then being disinvited from the trip. And there was just, yeah, I didn't like that. So I like that they were forced to hang out and be in that
kayak. And I'll give Bronwyn the like because I do buy that like, Heather likes to be in charge. I don't love the way she presented it where she's like, oh, it it turns out all you have to do is take a back seat and like, do whatever. I didn't love that. But like, I do think it was fair. Yes. I, I do think Heather has a control thing, but also I think she has confidence issues to the point where maybe she's concerned that she'll literally be booted from the show. That's OK, That's fair.
And this is me. I mean, obviously there's a lot of contacts I'm missing, but from watching what I've watched of her early on and now watching this, that's just kind of the vibe I get. I love Heather so much and I I feel like the person who doesn't understand how much Heather has to offer is Heather. Yes, yes, yes. She's always been that. So I read Heather's book. I did too read both of them. No, I've only read the first.
One I read both of them. I forgot about the second one, but she really talks about like, yeah, she is very much, you know, I want to be liked. I want to be, you know, chosen. And, you know, it comes from her, you know, family and being in the church and all that. So, yeah, you're right. Like he doesn't know how great she is. And I think she got a lot of, she got a lot of attention and she was like kind of the breakout star. And she's really since season 1 become like the narrator of the
show. And I think she took a little bit too far and then she people like flipped on her, the audience and she wasn't as likeable in certain seasons, 3:00 and 4:00. So I think she's bounced back a bit and five and now and six so far, it's on one episode. So I like where she's going because I did not like Heather after the whole Monica stuff. I was like Nope. Nope, I was fine with the Monica thing. I had a hard time in season 3 with her where it was.
I'm Ryder Divergent Shaw. I'm not talking about this black eye. I'm not like I I struggled a lot with that because I was like, you were so much better than this. Like pull it. Together and changing the story so many times and like getting like potentially getting someone in on production in trouble by like blaming it like it was just like it was bad. It was bad. I can totally see that.
I just got the vibe. Do you remember when we were at our nine to five how I just constantly, every day felt like I was gonna get fired no matter how good a job I was doing? The imposter center on thing, yes. That's kind of what I get from her. I can see some of that, yeah. 100%, yeah. Now that you say that out loud, 100% yes it's the same thing. And she was a big Housewives fan. So like the Beyond Housewives, I think she's kind of like, whoa,
what am I doing here? Like, I love it here, but like, what am I doing here? OK, you know? That's fair yes, Meredith. So we we get the the scene and then we get to Meredith and she looks so incredible in her little fishing outfit with like the the like little toboggan hat and everything. I think. Oh. Yeah, I saw your note there and I was like, wow. And I, we rewound it because I was like, let me have a look at this. So we paused it for like a minute and then I was like, it's
just a ski outfit. I think listen to me very carefully. I think Meredith like could wear like a flannel shirt and jeans and look like there's just something about Meredith where like she is a canvas that an artist paints on. I think she looks incredible no matter what. I'm upset. I worship the ground. She has had some fairly basic confessional looks even in this episode. One of them was very plain and she still rocks it. That color blue on her and her confessional was so.
Are you? It reminded me a lot of one of Lisa Barlow's very, very early confessional looks. And I was like, oh, you're doing this right. This is what it's supposed to look like. You're. Talking about, yeah. And cracking up, talking about how long until we catch a fish. No, just give me an estimate to the point where the guy was like, there's a reason we call it fishing and not catching. And she was like, OK, but like. But like how long?
How long? So you had that and then you had Mary going, well, you could just bring the fish back to life with CPR, right? Like Mary? What? What's that? I think she was talking about catch and release but she didn't know like right? How it works I don't know. I don't know, nothing I could assume either is that she was like, oh, you can just throw it back in. It's like, well, not if you've already killed it.
Yeah. Yeah. Like it was like she thought the fish already died if you had it on a hook and you had to like resuscitate it to throw it back like. And then the fact that she's like, well, he's just wrong, Gusty. She does that with a few things. It was like, it's this. And then it was like, what was the like? If you drink carbonated water, it hurts your ovaries. Like there are just certain things that Mary. Mary is the Lord and she believes Look. It up it's. True.
Don't you dare. Google it professional and be like they are so wrong. Can you believe they said that? Can you believe these fishermen were trying to tell me about fish? You don't know, Gusty. You don't know. Gusty, I love her so much. Also couldn't figure out his name and just gave up. I loved that. Gusty. Gusty could probably tell you about that. After he said Gusty 16 times. At least you just call him Bussy. Not Bussy.
The women all end up going out for a campfire and we find out that Angie K was the worst food planner on God's green earth. And Mary doesn't eat campfire food, apparently, because, like, she doesn't like skewered things and there were no hot dog buns. Or catch up or. Catch up for anything. And it was like every question they asked Angie K, her eyes just got bigger and bigger and bigger.
And she was like, oh. You'd think Camping World or Campers World would have loaded that thing up with food for them. You would think, you would think production would have gone to like Meyer or like where I don't know, I don't know what their stores are out there. But like you would, you would think that they went to Kroger with them and say, hey, like Angie, maybe pick up some hot dog bonds or something like. They're like, no, let's let this play out. Yeah, let's actually make Angie
go to the grocery store. Like, what did they even need sliced bread for? That's my question. Where did the bagels come into play? It's all. Maybe the bagels are like for the morning and Mary's like I would have eaten the bagel. I love bread. So I would have like oh have a snack and bagel. These women don't eat bread. Mary did. Mary did. That's fair. But they were also eating the hot dogs like right off of the metal thing because they didn't
have any fun to the soul. Did they not have ketchup like I was so. Amazing, we have. Ketchup. And you said that, she said. Oops. Like just eat your hot dog and be happy. She said. You're all so entitled to food, Yeah. Scott, you put a note in here about Heather in the campfire lore. Oh my God, my.
Swordsen was a real person. Yeah, but still, I just don't need Heather Gay doing like another like, did you know this Mormonism folklore tale like, and it just, I of course, if anyone was going to do it was to be Heather Gay just being like just so performative and just so like Mormon trivia. I'm like OK. I love that the Bron was like, Yep, I know. And I'm like, see you guys are so aligned. I would have loved a ghost story that didn't have to be Mormon, You know what I mean?
Like have a little campfire quarry that's not religious. I don't know. I would argue about the. Retaining. Oh, it just, Yeah. That that gross story about training women. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, if you like are like out there and kissing boys or whatever, she's going to come and take you away. What about the men?
What about the men who are like? I will tell you that is I didn't see it through that lens, but like my religious trauma probably doesn't allow me to so. It seemed like one stop away from like, you know, a truck stop hooker story is what it sounded like. Truck Stop. I don't know, it just seemed like that was the whole insinuation behind it, which I just didn't enjoy. Yeah, it was weird. It was a weird. Truck Stop, Hooker. Not true crime. But it was. No, it was a folklore.
He just said that she's a real, real person. Yeah. There's Molly Sorenson was absolutely a real person. I googled it. Like Lizzie Borden. Lizzie Borden, who like killed her parents. Took a axe, took 30 wacks. That whole weird. You don't know We're only ones, OK? You need to dive into that old campfire. Mama, let's research Lizzie Borden, I guess. Yeah, she was a real person, but now they're saying she like, haunts the ravine. OK, OK. Yeah, she was in.
The school bus. I didn't know anything about Lizzie Borden. I mean, I do like, it's OK. It's not that great. I do love random creepy situation. So the like huddling up and like, OK, guys, let's go down these train tracks. Like, I, I don't know, I thought that was kind of funny. If you like it, I love it. The entire time I was doing that I was like, I don't need the kitschy Blair Witch found footage thing. I didn't need it.
But if you like it, I love it. I thought it was great use of those camcorders they didn't need, Yeah. Right if we're. Going to have them at least use them for something good. Production lean. Thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone kind of gangs up on Baby Gorgeous at the campfire again and we get like 5 seconds of that and then Brittany goes, Whitney, I was really offended by what you said that I do for money. And I was like, shut up, this is not for you. You've had enough time in this
episode. Well, and so are the other women. They were all very much like we don't need. This is not the time for this, Brittany. Yeah, it's like Whitney's like having a real moment and being honest and, you know, saying my business failed, I lost a shit ton of money. You know, I feel horrible about it. I had to fire people. And, you know, it doesn't, again, doesn't happen on Housewives.
Like just that honesty. And in the middle of all this and Brittany's like, well, yeah, but back to me. But this isn't the first time she's done that. She did that in part of where? Where did they? Was it part of Aorta that they went to? Yeah. Puerto Vallarta when they were down there and she was like, you guys, what about me? I feel so left out. Shut up. I think I sent that to you, Emma. Where? Like she like that scene. Britney was like, you guys, you're not supporting me.
I had some really great news about my daughter. Shut up. Well, that right. And then at the Audrey Hepburn party, she's like you guys. Like she stood up and was like. That's where it was. Yes, that's where it was. Yeah, yeah. Brittany and the problem that I have with Brittany, I'm glad, sorry. I just, I I couldn't believe her timing because I understand the conversation they were talking about where Whitney said you suck Dick for money and then Brittany said you started in MLM.
I get that she's like conflating that, but for her to see this woman crying about her husband being fully invested and having to fire 30 people and then being like, well, I would still like an apology. It's. Comedically bad is what it is like the timing is so comedically bad on and then we do get into and this is I really appreciate this about Whitney because something I will give Whitney she the the healing journey I could have done
without. But like she's very, very honest and real about like everything she goes through. And I don't think we're getting an act with with Whitney. I think it's all real and I do appreciate that. Yeah, no, I. Agree with that I agree, yes. I like her, like in general I I think she has no filter and I think she's just like saying what's on the top of her mind. Wait until season 3 or 4 and tell me how much you like her.
But when it's all about the healing journey, like it's a little like when it revolves around like I'm, I'm unpacking all the trauma, like I, I won't take that away from her because I think that's very real when she makes every situation about that. That's what I struggled with.
Yeah, she definitely went a little overboard with it and and just kept on, like when she tried to conflate whether she was drunk or not, you know, being used in Heather's book, that was kind of like, what are you talking about? Like you've been trying to have a story. Yeah. Fake outrage. Fake. Outrage, but yeah. But I do. I Whitney came back for me. She came back for me last season and I'll take it. What else? Did you like her red hair? No. I love her as a blonde.
She's. So I do like her as a. Blonde more for sure. Yeah, Yeah, I didn't. Oh. Go ahead, she's gorgeous and can do whatever but like the blonde suits her better. I have said on our podcast probably 50,000 times that her face should be plastered everywhere. Her face should be studied. Stunning. She is beautiful and her skin is always like glass. Well, love her. She has made some. An event at a drag event once, she was fantastic. Really. Was she really? Not perfect in person. Oh yeah.
It's just, it's, it was just like off putting how pretty she was. I was. I. Believe that? Yeah. And this is one thing I also believe about Whitney is you know how a lot of like women, you and I have known people like this before where like they collect gay people as friends and it's like, I have gay friends. I wholeheartedly believe Whitney is like, no, no, no, I'm, I'm an ally to the community and I really do love gay men. I that's something I really
appreciate about. Yeah. No, I would. I would, it's not like, oh, I have to have a gay. It's like, no, these are actually real people and they are my friends and not my accessories, so. Yes, yes. But they might also be my glam, OK. Maybe, but like I, I would love to be Whitney's glam, I'll tell you that, right? I would love to be Meredith's glam, I'll tell you that, right? And maybe even maybe gorgeous as glam. Well, that. 'D be a full time job for sure. Oh 100% because $60,000 a year
on glam. Yes. Just on glam. Just on glam, she. Doesn't go anywhere without her. I go to see I have glam and Sandra pay. I have glam everywhere. Oh my God, I love her so much. I have a cop somewhere that says that like I got something from Bravo that was like, I have glam everywhere I go. Anyway. I did appreciate Winnie being vulnerable. I also appreciated her pushing Brittany away, saying I don't want you. I'm not ready for a hug right
now. And then and then you guys put in a saying, what did Meredith do this episode besides come for Brittany? Yeah, what did Meredith really do like? So she's very non present in this episode. I don't need her to do anything besides come for for Brittany, but. It was like that one moment coming for Brittany and that was really about it. She's going to get along with everybody for the most part. And she defended Lisa. You know by saying every business takes I'm alone.
It makes me wonder if she's going to have anything major storyline wise this season or if she's be kind of another participant instead of. I'm sure she I would hope she does. I was going to say I'm sure she will. I hope she does because last year was kind of a similar thing where she didn't have a lot going on right like she had she had her bar mitzvah. And now she has all the DJ money rolling in. So you know I have a DJ. I hope that they talk about her being a DJ. Well, they have to.
They absolutely have. They should have given her a set out in the woods. That would have been a great premiere. They should have let her have the like do the new like theme music because you know who is it? It's not in my Miami. That's. Adriana. Adriana, yeah, that's, that's her scene. Like, that's her Miami song. Do you actually think that Meredith Marks is mixing anything? Because I believe she has someone doing that for her.
And she is going up there and pressing play and shaking our little titties. And I love it. And I'll watch every little video that I can find. It's a lot of jumping and I'm like, good on her. That's some. You know, good exercise 'cause it's just like jumping jumping. She's got Guardia water. Yeah, her two turntables in a microphone. She's actually listening. To anything in the headphones. She's. Talking probably exactly what's coming out of the speakers, just a lot lower volume.
Just I love it. It's like this is a little too loud. Brooke's putting it. Down. And noise cancelling and she has it playing really soft. Actually, Enya and the headphones. Not Enya. She's sailing away. Sail away, Sail away. Oh Lord, so the women end up going. On Meredith doesn't have to do anything this season. She just needs to be Meredith. I got you. I'm with you. That's all I need her to be and here's the oddest to God's truth.
That's all I need any of the women to be is themselves. Like it's they are all fairly entertaining. And even Brittany, like if she just sits there and it's pretty like I can handle that too, because I think she's one of the most beautiful men in the world. That's what I hate about her because I'm just like, like I wish I didn't like this about you because I don't want to like anything about you.
But. I did just remember one more Meredith moment this episode and it was so funny because she literally almost said nothing the whole episode. But she did find a way to plug her caviar. She said. I know nothing about fish except for that's where I get my. Cavity guys. I forgot about that, yes. And I wish I liked fish because like, I would, I wish I could eat Meredith's caviar like. I wish I ate fish. They'll have caviar. It doesn't taste like fish, it tastes like nothing.
Yeah, perfect. I I never hired caviar. Yeah. Tastes like butter, kind of like. Oh, perfect, I. Haven't had caviar in a very long time, but yeah, that seems to be what I recall. Butter. Yeah, gorgeous. We, we support we. Support lots of Gorga and all her cookie endeavors, but we haven't gotten with the Meredith's Meredith's caviar yet. Are Melissa's cookies good? Yeah, yes, the cake is. I love the cake. The coffee cake. It's it's very good.
We've had two so far. The cookies are, you know what you'd expect? Kind of, but they're very, we keep saying it, moist. They're very moist cookies. And you don't. Do you not like the word moist? Well, no, but. I feel like the Internet doesn't. Yeah, we. Hi Internet, the word moist is dusty. Approved. I hope you're OK with that. But yeah, the the coffee cake's delicious, yes. Beautiful. Have you have you bought any of the housewives merch? Do you have a anything that?
Emma will tell you that I single handedly, like, am the sole supporter of the Skinny Girl brands in the state of Indiana. Yeah, I forgot about Skinny Girl. I was about to be like, no, not really, except for like 60 bottles of Skinny Girl. That's true. That's really like, that's all I've really bought. I I bought some. What did I buy from Countess Louie? I like I stream her songs on Apple Music because I I'm trash but you're sheets because money can't buy you class. So we have 3 sheets.
We have three sets of Porsche's sheets. Try saying that three times. I didn't know Porsche had cheese. She has, yeah. Pampered by Porsche. They're. Really good sheets they're. Amazing. Yeah, I'll Google that right now. Pampered by Porsche, Yeah. The only other thing we thought I thought of getting Jeff like a three Wick candle for Christmas, but they were they were really expensive. I'm like I'm at 80 bucks for a joke is not funny to me. Yeah. Is it from Karen or from Wendy?
I wanted to get one of each just to make the the joke work. So it could burn them both and be like the. Seppos are still on the market because I was looking into that. Actually, yeah. And I don't know that they still sell them. I don't know that they were ever on the market. Yeah, I think that was a storyline could be right. These things are not that expensive. No, they're not. There's a good there. Yeah, a good price.
Oh, and I can buy them on Amazon, which means my papaw is going to pay for it because my my Amazon is charged to his credit cards anyway. What a day. What, so you're a Papa? Yeah, my Papa. My. Grandpa. Yeah, OK, that's cute. It's it's really cute. It's from Kentucky. Anyway, sorry, like sorry to be the women go on a ghost hunt. Bronwyn was wearing a Gucci beanie and the logo looks like the nasty pig logo.
I didn't see it until you wrote it and the notes, and then I was like, oh, I see it. Because I saw it earlier and thought that's a really weird logo. But then when you see it kind of in the grainy video, I was totally like, oh, 100% see what he's what he sees. I feel like a problem with supporting nasty pigs, so I think that's OK. 1000% she'd be like Oh yeah it's art. And then they go on there like found footage, ghost hunt. I think Meredith falls or something.
I hope she's OK. I'll kill myself if she's not. And then we get a sneak peek at the rest of the season. I get. So like I didn't, I guess I didn't clock it, but Whitney at one point said that they go on three trips this year. So they go to Greece, they went on the RV trip and then there's like a below Deck crossover for Down Under. So at some point they go to
Australia and I'm so excited. I'm also what I will say I I never need to hear another word about Angie Castaneda's being Greek. But like, I'm so excited that she gets to go to Greece. Like I love that for her. Like if she if they didn't, I'd be like, girl, like you're missed, missed opportunity. Like you talk so much about it. Like that is the girls trip. I'm so glad they're doing that. And Greece has been beautiful. So right.
And then on the other side of like me being super excited about like everything that's to come, it does see like it does look like we get a little bit more about Robert Junior's journey. This is in light of like he literally just got arrested last week. So like, that's wild. But like, I, I'm like, I want him to be OK number one. But like, I'm so excited for this season. Like my show is back. I'm so happy all. Right, like there's I think I'm Salt Lake. They all perform well.
Like there's never a filler episode. It's just like really good intense camp and drama and fun and and. The right balance of it all. It's not like it's not getting dark like the other shows are getting where it's, you know, being accused of drugging each other, things like that. Right. Just sucking Dick for Utah Jazz tickets.
But yeah. Oh, and then I didn't realize Jeff wrote this in here, but like, he you wrote that like, this is similar to Lisa's Bezos party where it's all like contained and it's like a capsule episode. So I I I agree. I think so smart of like, let's put them all together because usually like the first episode of the season is like, let's see what everyone's doing, been doing since we last saw them. And I'm like, I don't need that. Let's all be together on a cash trap and chaos will ensue.
And that's the entire episode. Like that's I think they originated that I don't I haven't seen like every single first season episode of every show, but I think like that's pretty smart and and Salt Lake. 100% So based on this episode and this episode alone, if you had to be friends with any of the women from Salt Lake City, who would it be? One person or. Just just any, any, or any of the women. Or if you had to pick multiple, that's fine too. I'd say Bronwyn.
I'd say Bronwyn, yeah, or Angie Primary. Angie, Those are like my thoughts. OK, I'd say Bronwyn, probably followed by Whitney. I like what you do. I like so you part of you wants to say Mary, right? You're like, oh, I'd hang out with Mary, but you would be so goddamn confused the entire time you're hanging out with her. You'd be like wait is. This Emma does not want to say Mary. I don't get her. Yeah, I don't, especially in Season 2. I don't either.
It's off the rails. In Season 1, she left a bad taste in my mouth and now I'm like through season 2 basically. I'm like almost to the reunion and I'm like, wow, we just don't click. I don't know. Something really changes with her when she decides to actually participate on the show. Like I don't know what they explained to her, how much of A raise they gave her, but once she starts really actually being present, she's amazing.
But those years where she's just like, would rather be doing anything else, it was awful to watch. It's awkward. Yeah, Yeah. I'm gonna give you my answer in a second, but like, if you like, if you look back and Emma, like, do you, do you remember a couple of the episodes where Mary's in her kitchen and then Robert Junior comes home after being gone for like 2 days and she's like, where were you? Like, why didn't you answer your phone? I promise.
In Season 4 that is was it? Is he season 4 or five? That is going to make sense. And I think that'll put into context why she was not present. Oh. Yeah, I never even. Really. Thought I never thought about that. Because I was, I was about to say, being a good mom. Controversial hot take here. Being a good mom is not enough to make me like you on reality television. There are lots of good mothers out there. Give myself. I, I don't, I get, I get where
you struggle with Mary 100%. I just, I, there's something about her that I really like and I don't know what it, I can't quite put my finger. I I think she's just out of her mind. I think that's what I like about her. Yeah. But Emma, who? Who would you want to be friends with? Probably Heather or Meredith. They were pretty quiet, but Meredith really had me on the floor. It was clearly her first time fishing, that was. Absolutely what I. Need an ETA on this fish catching.
Where's, Where are the fish? For me, I think it would be God, gun to my head. I, I think Angie. I think based on this episode alone, I think Angie. Really. I think, yeah, I think she like Angie. Like, she's just, she's fun. She's like. She's still she doesn't take herself too seriously, even though she's a pillar in the community. Yeah, she's willing to get messy and you know, and, but she'll own up to it too, yes, Or just downright gaslight you one way or the other, but no in between.
She's a business woman. She's all the things, yes, and she's. Beautiful. Well, you guys, this, I think this is a really cool crossover experience. I think we had an absolute time. I had a good time. I definitely had a good time I it. Wasn't a good time. Yeah, absolutely. I feel a little out of it just because I've been home all day getting ready to go camping tomorrow. So like I've just been kind of in and out. But yeah, no, I had a really fun
time. Like, I think I love talking about housewives, but I think I'd love to do another one where we just like, talk about random stuff, like just, you know, what's been going on Because like, that's what you normally do on your show. Just like, let's have a let's catch up. And I'm like, yeah, I like to do that too. I love that this is. Also burning down. Right.
This is also such a long episode for you guys too, because like you guys just like usually clock it like 35 minutes at the most. And I'm like, I looked down and I was like an hour and 15 minutes. But it's good because, like, I think, you know, we are coming straight from the episode and we're like, also sometimes a little bit tired and it's also a little hot up here. So like, yeah, yeah. Then that happened. OK, good night.
Till next time. So I think I like that you took the notes and, like, walked us through it and the entire episode I'm like, Oh yeah, that .0. Yeah, yeah, may have said that, yeah. And like I did warn you guys, like I take notes like an insane person and I hope it lived up to like what? That was great. I've tried taking notes before and it just ends up being like little keywords and later on I'm like, what the hell was I talking about?
So like, no, you're, you're, I appreciate you doing that. That was great. Of course. Emma, do you just rely on him or do you take your own notes? If I added to this I think we might go insane. This is a note for like a regular episode. I'm along for the ride. I just I've decided that if I put notes in there it would be far too long and I'm funnier in
the moment. I what I will say, and This is why Emma is always been such an incredible like partner, like walking through my life with me and Co host like with me. She is so so, so so good at just letting me be is absolutely out of my mind as I know I am. I just like as, as, as I clearly am. Like I, I'm not going to say for one second that I'm not like chaos, but she's, she does a very good job of a controlling that chaos. Like she knows when to rein me in.
And she's also so great about just being like, yeah, we'll see where the vibe goes. Like we'll see what happens. Like, he's so good at that. And it's good to have an outline. I love an outline. That's kind of what I treated as well. So we we tend to rely on the pictures behind us. So we go through and like we just make sure we touch up on each of the housewives. And so sometimes we're like, we talk about her yet and then. Yeah, a really jogging memory,
yeah. So we actually screw ourselves and we're missing a set of pictures. We're like, oh, who do we forget? No. I love that. OK, Jeff and Scott, tell us where we can find you. Tell the listeners. Tell everyone. No, we're just so happy we actually have our own website now. So husband's watching housewives.com. We'll give you all the stuff there. So and then husband's watching on TikTok and some form of that everywhere. Else on Instagram, Instagram, all the places, yes, Spotify,
wherever. YouTube. Wherever you get your podcasts. I'm very happy with our search engine results. I I Google myself when I'm bored at work. Now I'm like, oh, the husbands are places. I love that it's nice. I also want to make sure that people don't confuse us with other, you know, husbands watching other things because it could could get dirty if it gets to the wrong. Site, yeah. Yeah, I think I've got a few of those bookmarks, but. Where are they watching?
Yeah, no, we're watching The Real Housewives. That's what we do, yeah. I love it. Well, thank you so much for being here with us and thank you for having such a fun time with us. Like this has been so cool. This is fantastic. I hope we can do it again so we can get into some more, some more deep seated opinions and maybe some disagreements on on where we get with different housewives that. 'D be fun, whatever you want. Because, like, we're very
similar in our beliefs. And so it's fun to hear, like others like, OK, that's a valid point why you don't like her. So yeah. Well, I've got a ton of those, don't you worry. Let this season of Potomac start and I'll have opinions for everyone. I will too. Trust, trust you, me. There's an open door for you to come on for the season premiere. Potomac. What is it? October 6th? I think whatever you want.
Do that because just like those other podcasts are on Teresa's payroll and there were rumors that Robin Dixon was paying off podcasts to if Giselle started paying me, I would have no shame. She doesn't have to pay me. She doesn't have to pay me at all. Dear Giselle, don't you worry, you are bestie approved. But yeah, thank you guys so much for being here. We loved it. Do you guys have anything else you want to blog before you go? No. Not at all. Thank you for having.
Thanks for having us, and yeah, listen to it whenever we're at your podcast. Woo Hoo. Yes. Cool.