Potomac Besties! (RHOP)

Yeah. Cool. I'm Travis and. I'm Emma. And this is Bestie. Approved. We're back with husbands watching Housewives. Potomac has begun. I'm so excited, you guys. I'm so fucking excited. It's been great doing like, doing podcasts with other people and like getting out of our own little routine and stuff. It's been fantastic. So for us especially, to be able to do this again so soon after the Salt Lake premiere, this is fantastic. I was so worried that you weren't going to want to come

back on best you approved. I thought you were going to be like that trash. Like dude, please don't listen to them. That's trash. No trash box. Yeah, well, that's why you had to go to sing Sing because of the hot box. Is that where Karen was Sing sing? Cross sing sing of Virginia. Sing sing of Virginia. I don't know. I sing. Sing is not a real place, is it? It was. Is it still open? I don't know if it's still open. It was a real prison, but it's it's definitely a prison of

Karen's generation. I would. Think it's a prison by us or in this area of the North Bay our. Well, we don't really have a prison around here. The nearest we're near Folsom Prison I think. No, the other one. Oh, we're near San Quentin. San Quentin, Yes. Oh. Yes, I worked. I worked across the highway from San Quentin. It's still open. Yeah. It's still open. Yeah, Yeah. That's where the murderers are. You give them a little wave when you drive in.

Well, it's got to be rough on them because it's like it literally is sitting on the Bay. Like you look, if you have a window, it just, it's this beautiful view of the Bay and you're like, oh, I'm stuck in here for my bad decisions anyway. Sharing with other people you guys. I love that Fiona. Karen has to shower with other people.

The way that they greet that and well, I guess we're just going to jump into it. The way that like these women, what they were worried about with Karen being in prison was wild to me. Like I was just like, yes she does have a shower with other people. She also had 40 UIS like perspective. Yeah, I did feel like they didn't want to sit there and just be like, well, good, you know what I mean? Like they still want to be her friend. And that's what makes me think she's coming back.

I mean obviously she is since they were like filming outside her release but. Well, I'm, I'm sure they were preparing for all eventualities of like, we can't be too, we can't talk too much shit about her because this will happen. And if we don't talk enough people accused us of being too nice up to her. So yeah, they they were trying to cover all their bases. I think like just like they. Go for it. No, please. Go ahead. Please.

Oh yeah, just like they picked up cameras for like that short moment to have them react to her being sentenced. I think at they will pick up cameras to have like maybe a little Giselle Karen scene perhaps to tack on to the end of this season. Oh, you're 1000 setting up for 1000% setting up for that. Yeah, and perhaps an Andy Karen interview one-on-one. That's my guess.

Maybe so like I was very interested coming off of like because I watched it live and I turned on Bravo and I got caught like the last 1520 minutes of the reunion. And the way that they were dragging her at the tail end of that just like thought like it's like talking about this man that like saw Ashley on the train and was talking about like, Oh yeah. Like he she used to come in a day drink at this restaurant all

the time. And I was just like, I was like, oh, can I, I, she, I mean, I'm, she's, she's shameless. She'll be able to come back from it. But like, like, does she want to? I, I don't know. I don't know that I want to. My question is why are people like seeking out Ashley Darby to tell like horrible things about their cast mates? Like I feel like Ashley Darby was the one speaking.

Well, no, because we also they whatever the T JS friend or whatever who was just like you guys look, I I don't think you could just like seek that out. Like I don't think she's walking around an event going. Do you know TJ? Do you know TJ? I don't know because. She's so approachable. Right. Did I send you guys my notes from this episode? Yeah, well, we saw them. We definitely looked at them. And man, I have to say, I I, I was a little nervous after our

last episode together. So I didn't know what to expect. Obviously. I was like, you know, how is this going to go? Because we don't really take notes. And so we didn't know like how we were going to really be like doing like an actual recap, like kind of scene by scene and stuff. But one, thank you for taking great notes. And then also just reading, reading through your notes. It was just like, yes, that was insane.

And that was silly. So we, we appreciate you walking us through all of it. Yes, I feel like we talked about this last time I take notes like the way I think so like I literally start it's starting people are coming back and I was so excited I'm. So good. Look, we can't just. Jump right into it. We need to talk about what music we've been listening to lately because we actually made a point to remember what we've been listening to. Yeah, OK. It's. Like a last night of the long we. Do.

I've been listening to Windsor, just a indie, indie rock kind of guy who's actually, I thought he was kind of made it big, big already. But then now I see him on TikTok kind of pandering, like, hey, everyone, listen to me. And I'm like, oh, I guess he's not as big as I thought he was. But yeah, all day long I've been listening to that. It was good. I liked it. I love that. What have you been listening to?

I The last song I listened to was Hot and Sexy by Zara Larsson. I don't know that, but I I like the title. Yeah, I'll send it to you guys. It's a. It's a. Very good song. Jack is very emo these days and so we were listening to Uneasy Hearts Weigh the Most by Dance Gavin Dance. Oh nice. Thank you. It has cuss words in it, but he never remembers the words anyway so. Those are the most important. Words vibes based that's. Perfect. What about you, Jeff?

Yeah, so my long one because I know last time IA couldn't remember and B I'm like I only listen to old stuff, but this week I've been listening to new stuff. Two albums. One, I'm a huge Mariah fan, so her new album Here for It All came out last last week. So good first album in seven years and love all the songs on it. He's been making me watch like every appearance Mariah has, like on all the late night. Shows like Jimmy Fallon, Kelly and Mark and then Andy of course

her parents. On Watch What Happens Live was probably the best, but I have to say I think I can recite all of her talking points now just by watching so many interviews with Mariah Carey. I'm just like, oh, you put that song last, You don't say. OK. So all good songs. So there's that one. And then Taylor's new album, Life of a Showgirl, which I used to not be in the tailor at all, but now like I'm, I wouldn't say I'm a Swifty, but I'm, I like her a lot.

And I think it's really good. Like it's very upbeat and poppy and the title track again, great. And this other song cancelled I was listening to before we got on here. But this actually relates to housewives because Lisa Rinna, you know how she likes to post on Instagram like, you know, dancing around while like Harry Hamlin's like minding his own damn business, like reading the paper. So she did like a video to cancelled and also to life of a showgirl.

And it's just like you never really followed so. I just saw her joking on the trampoline and I think you know the right thing. She was like trampoline. I swear it was Lisa or not. I don't know. I'm. Sure, I feel like it probably was lately. She's she's always jumping around doing something. It's. Always just like. Yeah, it's. A very move your body thing. It's amazing. But the which one of Taylor's songs is it about Travis Kelsey's horse cock? Which one is that?

About his wife. About his horse cock. Oh, I don't. I don't know which one I think. About like a tree or something and the trees a medic worker is Dick. Oh, I don't know that. Like yeah, my Prince, not the Scott, but my other friend Scott was talking about that one and I'm like, I don't maybe I wasn't paying attention and doing it. I. Don't think you're analyzing the lyrics enough. Just like no. Like WOOD wood I just.

Looked at it, I would watch a movie called Wood with Travis Kelce in it. Oh. Wood. Oh, that. Oh, yes, because she talks about spreading her thighs. Got it. Yes, OK. That's the one. I say Jeff's kind of like Jack. He's not paying attention to the lyrics. Yeah, I'm feeling the vibes. Performing the vibes. No, that's just not again. Thank you. OK. You're so welcome. Did you guys see that Rachel's Up is going to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, by the way?

Oh. Yeah, we saw the little commercial of her. Her little preview commercial. Yeah. I love it. So. I. Do too, I never really watched her, I never watched the Rachel's O project but I kind of saw her in clips on the soup at the time and I really like they made fun of her. So I not specifically her but her show is really cheesy. But I'm looking, I'm looking forward to her on Beverly Hills. I think so good I. Was going to.

Say, I think we're going back to a place for like we're getting back to like housewives, because I think we've, I think when he brought that little Teddy fucking Mellencamp on that show, that's we, we, we strayed too far from God there and we need to get it back on track. Well, we'll let that go. We love Teddy. We love Teddy a lot. But you know, we understand why people don't we? Get it? I know. I don't dislike you. Let let. You can talk. You can talk smack about it.

We're here for it. Yeah, The thing is, like, I know that. I know that you're not, like, going to be crazy with it, like the Internet. And, you know, she's got a bit of a reprieve lately because, you know, like nearly dying from the cancer. But before that it was basically like, I want you to die, so. No, I don't want her to die. That's the thing I I have. I struggle with her because. I'm on the Internet about petty metal Milky out. Wait, what? I mean, I think he just froze on my end too.

Did we? We're here. Oh, there we go. Here we're going. No, I feel bad because like I want to like Teddy, like, because but like, she grew up in the spotlight. She was John Mellencamp's daughter. And like, she's too boring for the real house size of Beverly Hills. Like let's just call it what it is like. What do you you know I? Talk about your eating disorder accountability business. Like what are you doing? Yeah, I mean, that wasn't the accountability business was a bit a bit much.

But you know, I think there had to be a voice of reason or a level headed person. And that's what I think we like about her is that through all of it all, like she never really said anything that was unreasonable. Like she wasn't like going all crazy half cocked like, you know, Camille or someone and just going out of left field. And I think that's what gave her the boring moniker, is that she was just too reasonable, which. We enjoy.

Funny thing is, like she didn't even like they made her go with naming herself that accountability coach. She didn't even know what that was. She just needed a term so. It was very easy for her to lean into the eating disorder of all of it though. And that's just all I'm going to say about. Well. Let's just see. I will let it go OK because. Because we saw your notes, we're going to have some words about Giselle when we get. There too. OK, we're going to pick and

choose our battles. Fair, I'll say. And here's the thing. She has it coming. Like, I get it. And yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's the same way. We're like Bethenny Brinkle's My Hero. But I'm like, yeah, she has it coming sometimes. I will say like Teddy made accountability a fame because on this episode it was like the drinking game, like she's be accountable, you take accountability. Well, I think they said like that the thing that established this group is accountability.

And I was like, from who? The thing was etiquette. Etiquette was the thing that started this group. But. Gearing up for Bravo Con too. Oh. Yeah. Oh yeah. That. Well, I mean, all we're really, we got some, we got 2 shirts made. We're we're testing our hand at merch so we can walk around the Hudsons watching housewives shirt. I made the logo on the back way too big. I feel like, I feel like I'm wearing a giant like plastic wrap.

It was really, really weird. But yeah, we got some merch and we're just kind of getting ready for it. You know, he's picked out some schedule that we want to do. Well, so we got the schedule last week they announced it and so it's like all the panels and it's all it's very handy dandy in the app and you can like basically give you a whole schedule and you can like add things to your schedule

basically. So it's just non-stop like panel, panel, panel, like literally going from like the Valley to Potomac and then like Beverly Hills later on that day. And this isn't even like including the photo OPS, which they announced that later on. And you have to like sign up, like, which who knows what we'll get, but because everyone gets, you know, crazy about that. So it's a very busy day.

Like I already like was looking at it and it's just like I told him, like, when are we going to find time to eat? Whose panels are you the most excited for? Well, that's The thing is, I mean, he'll remember more than I because I have a bad memory. But the panels are weird this year. I feel like, I feel I, I know it's Bravo Con, but two years ago it was Majority Housewives, A little bit of other Bravo shows in there, but there's a

lot of stuff. What it is is that there's a lot of mixing of people like for like themes like oh, this is my bestie. So it's like housewives who are besties across other cities, IE like Teresa and Alexia and like Sutton and Cynthia and Teddy and Tamra, of course. And then, you know, so it's like, and then like girls against boy, like battle of the sexes and like, you know, it's

yeah. And also too, since there's like not a Jersey panel, but they're still going to be Teresa, Margaret, Dolores and Melissa, are they going to be there spread amongst panels? So like Teresa has like 3 panels going on but like flatter cast mates just so she can be there and have a presence. And then it's also odd because OC does not have a panel period but they dispersed the women amongst like other random panels. So and New York is going to be their new New York IE Jessel,

Aaron and Sigh but dispersed. And I think Luann could be, there's really one from Old Roni. Did you see that The New York is like filming again? Did you see those? No. I've heard that like they're rumors that they have like they're testing or whatever. I. I think what's going to happen is they're going to bring like Dorinda and Luann back to like mix with the girls because like the I, I like the new New York. I really, really did.

But like people. I. Hated it. And like, I guess like, I don't know, you got to give the people what they want. I don't know. I mean, I can see them coming back as kind of like den mothers or like sorority, you know? I don't think it would work because it's such it would be very obvious like this is new, this is old.

I think they would be better off doing like another legacy like Girls Trip kind of situation because it just I can't see like Dorinda and Jessel really like mixing well so I think. She'd be really good friends with Jenna Lyons. I think they'd be really cool together. Right. That's true, yeah. I don't know. So. So, Emma, do you do you watch all the other shows too or I know you're? Dabble. Dabble. I'm dabble. I haven't watched every episode of New York.

I haven't watched every episode of Beverly Hills. I've watched all almost every episode of Atlanta but it's still like spotty. Potomac and Salt Lake City are like ride or die for me. Nice. Good. We're not. We're not forcing you to catch up on Potomac this time like we did Salt Lake. No, no, I was all Potomac. I've been sitting on my hands for this interview or this, this premiere. What prompted?

You to Emma because like, I don't think it was me, but like you were were were we sick or something? Like what? Because like there was like a two week period where you were like, I just watched. I don't know what came over me. I liked that it that they were from a city I'd never heard of. Like I, I don't know what Potomac, MD is. And I and I had never watched

that series. And at that point, I think they were like six seasons in or something and I was like, well, I need to like see what it's about. And then I fell in love with Giselle and I just like binged the whole thing. I think we have to have like had COVID or something because we were texting about it and we were being in bed and I was like, I'm so happy that she likes this. I like chugged it.

I loved it so much. It was the same way about Potomac. I remember like this is and I still lived in Solana and I was like watching TV and I saw like this like the the cherry blossoms go across the screen and I was like, oh what the fuck is this? And God, like, what a tramp. I loved it. I'm so mad at Ashley and Stacy right now. I hate after the premiere. Well, let's get into. It I'm mad at them both. They're on opposing sides. I'm mad at them both. Yeah, no, it wasn't.

Wasn't fun to watch because I want to like them both but they make it so so hard. Darby, I wish I could like you, girl. We'll. Get into it, we'll talk about it. But OK, so we start off with everyone getting over to Giselle's house and they're unpacking the State of the Union after Karen gets arrested. And the one thing that stands out to me so much about this cast, they are all gorgeous. Like there's not one of them that's like, oh, you like

there's no dog in the group. Like they're all so beautiful and. And they're glam. Wow, they eat it up every time. I mean, I could do without Qiana's confessional, you know her, her tiara theme and see. Her with the crown. Her and her crowns, yeah. We. Got the. Crowns on this, yeah. Kiana might be the one where I'm like, I'm on the TV this season, I'm fine. Like she's, she might take a minute to grow on me, but well, hopefully. Hopefully that Greg she'll have

the room to grow. If they I hope it's about Greg. I'm not going to be listening. Right, I think. She's so pretty and I like her so much. I just wish she would get off that man. Oh yeah, yeah. But I, I think that's the way I felt about her last season because I think she opened it up, but but with going my me and my me and my me. And I'm just like Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope. First of all, that's candy thing.

Unfortunately, I think she, because she's talked about it like briefly last season, I think she wants to have kids and she really liked Greg and it was stable and all of that. And so I think she like thought that was it for her. So she was like blinded by that a little bit. But you could see like, she's so different with him than she is everywhere else. And that's like a huge red flag, no? Because he's a monster.

Yeah, when I'm sure being on the show, you know more, you know more full time probably opened her eyes to some other possibilities. Sure her DMS were blowing up like crazy after last season. I. Hope so. I mean like she's beautiful. She needs to get pounded out like God bless. I love that she moved out. Oh yeah. Pretty place is very is nice, yeah.

Cute. I loved that when they were over at Giselle's house actually did call out the Thomas Jackson's concubine thing and I loved that I made that the name of all of our group chat. I forgot about that. I was like, Oh yeah, Karen said that. They like flashed back. They flashed back to some of like the Karen situation and like I didn't realize how triggering that was for me. Like that was a lot like seeing her wasted and like the whole see all of it like it I did not

like. That it's hard to watch because you're like wow, Karen, just shut up. I'm. Like, oh. You're like my mom. It's just getting worse. Oh man, I didn't like the way they actually said it though. I wish she because she like whispered it under her breath and was like all but like yeah. Come on. Yeah, but I went from like poor Ken. So Stacy. Yeah, but. The question I have is did she pay TJ to be her boyfriend? I think she's doing half of that check to TJ.

I think it's crazy like the check isn't that small for a first year housewife. So like that's a very paltry amount already. So I, I don't know who to believe. I don't think I don't think TJ is a reliable witness as well. So I I. Don't. Think the same. Thing. About Ashley Darby at a party.

She's reliable, right? This actress suit what is with Bravo's very afraid of like offending celebrities because like they bleeped out and like blurred out whenever when someone said the dude from that Tara allegedly banged and now this famous actress who they don't want to say her name and I'm like what is. It's a liability. It's a it's a slander lawsuit waiting to happen. Like I really then they should speculate like you know. Who was it? Yeah, I want to know so bad.

Can't they just say allegedly and then get away with that it works for every everyone else? Right. I mean I. Like I. Don't know and like, I mean, I wonder if there's something to do with like signing releases or something. I don't know, but I'm curious. Dude told Ashley Darby that because I I don't know I'm I'm sure there's a blog about it

other. Reason why this person who's supposedly T JS best friend OK and then she has these why does she have these screenshots and then like oh, she just happens to run into like Giselle and Ashley at this essence event. It's just too. It is weird but it also seems weird to me that Ashley would want it to be true so bad.

Like Ashley is weird in general and she like will die on a hill 100% but I, I just feel like if that didn't happen, it's so weird that she like can't stop bringing it up to Stacy, you know what I mean? Remind me at this point, Emma, when we get to the fight where Ashley's calling her a liar because I have a theory about this. So remind me about this. OK, at the very.

End happened. I think this woman did say this, but unless you're going to show me the actual receipt, like come on, you know, it's you're saying. I also couldn't find this lawsuit that had been filed anywhere. Like I did a lot of digging, I could not find the lawsuit. You're a regular Ashley Barbie. Yeah, I'm going to ask her. I love. The document Strange that Giselle said. I tried to get a screenshot of it but I couldn't like the way

she said I was like. Would she like hold her phone over the other lady's phone like here? Let me like, I don't know, it's all just so strange and. And it gets down to the problem with it is what the hell do they care so much for? Like, how does this affect their lives at all? Yeah. My answer to that, sorry, good, no. Please, please speak. Is my answer to that. Yeah. My answer to that is twofold.

You could say or they would say we care about it because how can we be friends with this person when she's like lying to our faces and she's not taking accountability, whatever, whatever. But really, if we break the 4th wall, it's you're not doing what the rest of us are doing, which is like showing our real lives supposedly. And I'm bugged because you're not pulling your weight in that. And like I'm putting myself out here. Not really Ashley Giselle, but you're not.

And so now I'm pissed because you're just getting away with it and you're skating on that. So I think that's. What they just, I agree with that. So I'll just tell you the theory I was going to tell you later. I, I think that's part of it. I think the other part is behind the scenes she lied about something much bigger and they can't say it on camera for whatever reason, whether it's liability, whether it's like whatever. And this is how it's coming out. The very ugly way.

It's like we're going to fight about because it's like you're never fighting about what you're fighting about. But like in a lot of cases on these shows. So I have a feeling that's what this is like because I don't care that she paid TJ. Like if she did, like, right? If not, whatever, I don't care. They are focusing a lot on that, which tells me something bigger had to have taken place.

I think you're right, there's more to it because like she didn't like Rob Giselle to to like pay TJ, right, You know, so. In the way that Ashley, when they were like trying on dresses kind of in the middle of the show, she was like, you're just overall a liar. I was like what else does she lie about that I'm missing like. Travis, I think you're right. Then yeah, they're really lacked on to something else. Yeah, I'm dumb.

But Speaking of latching on, Stacy goes and has lunch with her ex-husband because they're dating again. That's the only other thing I could think about for like why she would have paid TJ is like I don't know. Also with Ashley saying that they can't find anything legally like public about her divorce is makes me think that she was never getting divorced and that she just thought she needed some juicy storyline to get on the show manufactured her.

And she's still standing on, well, we even told our daughter like, we're divorced, we're divorced. But now we're back together. OK. And it's so weird. It's so weird. I just did not appreciate how she behaves in this all together. Also, I could not believe she called Qiana of all people vanilla. I was like I missed. That thanks. Dean, you missed that. I never heard you say that. You said Qiana doesn't have a personality and I said Stacey, I would. Argue that Qiana has too much

personality. All honestly, right? I don't. Know just coming from Stacey, who has had straight hair and a basic fashion Nova fit on for two or three seasons now. What are you talking about? What? Was that what was that? Like a basic fashion Nova dress on in that professionals would be straight in there every single time. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, mix it up a little girl she loves. The big game a bit though, I will give her that. And if. You. If you want to be basic, be

basic. But you can't run around calling other people vanilla. Come on. And. Then I think when Stacy said we found out we were officially divorced when we were on the beach on vacation together. What do you mean? What what? What do you mean you found? Like, did you not file the paperwork? Did you not sign the paperwork? What do you mean you found out? Right. Well, you can file it, but then like you, your lawyer could tell you OK, now it's actually it's

come, it's final. I think that's what she meant. Yeah, it. Has to be processed. As a surprise to her. Not a surprise, but I think it was more so they didn't didn't know the exact time when it was going to be like final final. Maybe she was in Barcelona with with Lisa from Miami and then she had to get a notary at like 3:00 in the morning and some shit. Can you hand me my beer? Maybe she was just aggravating the shit out of me and like, that's why I found it on that so

much. I was like God. There's just something not right with that whole thing. And then the way that she's sitting across from her ex-husband, you know, kind of just sitting there like something just smug about it in a way that like she thinks she's pulling one over on us, the viewers and the other ladies when it just seems really transparent and, and, and really, really paper thin. Just whatever she's trying to do. And we'll figure it out before it's all. Done so that ex-husband looks

like he has horcruxes somewhere. Like he makes me uncomfortable and I don't he has a wife. Horcruxes. I thought he was kind of cute. I thought he was like a like a more European John Barlow. He's German. He's so nice and whatever. It's just like so obvious. Like she had to reiterate last season like 10 different times that she's not having sex with TJ and now she's back with her ex-husband. It's like this is so clear as they like you were you were covering.

Oh my God. Yeah, it was probably the stipulation her ex-husband gave. Yeah, we I'll play along with this as long as you make sure no one thinks you had sex. But he wasn't, like, interested in being on the show at all because they had to blur him. Like, oh, yeah, he didn't sign off on a release last season. Like, even in pictures, they had to blur his face. So I wonder, like, when it became like, OK, I'll do this show with you. I'll. I'll be on camera.

You know, it's just, yeah, that part I will give you is is is SUS. Probably when his checks started clearing for TJ and he's like, I can just do this myself. And for me, I was like, she just seems so disingenuous about everything that she's saying. And I wonder how much truth there is to at some point. I don't even remember who said it, but someone said haven't you been trying to get on this show

for like years now? And her only defense was, girl, I've been on TV. It's like, yeah, but you haven't been on. QVC yeah yeah you were selling Lisa renters clothes like let's. Not the dusters. And yeah, so like, I wonder if she was like, I have a plan. I can't, I can't imagine it would take that much. I mean, unless the producers or the casting people were like, well, you know, we really, we don't need a happily married couple on Housewives of Atonement.

So you'd be the only one or the only one that's allowed it to be Karen and and Ray who are the. Only one who is an institution. I think the only I think the only like real happily married couple on the show are is Wendy and Nettie. They seem like they actually like each other, still in love, have a good family. The end of the season, because that one looked like the wheels were about to fall off, too. She's doing the Wife Swap thing though. I can't wait for. I think that'll be good,

actually. Maybe if that was like a misdirect, like with what? What's going on? There, I think it is going to be a misdirect, but Wife Swap, I was really hoping it was going to be all housewives wife swapping with each other. So that way they could be really, really shady about the way the other families live. I thought that'd be great to be like the one time they could actually bring it, bring the kids up. Well, I think this is more interesting to have like real

people and like with pigs and. I think it's kind of cool because it's like you probably, it's like, I have to assume that some of these women that are going to swap with the Housewives are like huge Housewives fans. So it's like, oh, I get to like live the life. I think that's kind of cool for them, honestly. Not that Lady off the grid though. She probably has no clue. No but like I would have loved to see Angie K Wife Swap with Wendy. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great.

No, I think that Wendy, in that like preview snippet that you were talking about, I have a funny feeling she's talking about her dad because we've seen a lot of her mom, but not a lot of her dad. That's the immediate other thing. I thought, yeah, I OK, you're probably right. That sounds, yeah. They never talked about the dad. Yeah. Yeah. I remember her mom's name. I don't this year. Damn it, I. Don't remember her mom's name at all. I hate her mom. I'm just, I hate her mom.

I'm intimidated by her mom. I don't care. She gets in her daughter's business a little too much for me, but I think that might be a cultural thing. She intimidates me. She's a stronger woman than I, and I know that's true. Not about it's, I feel like she, the way she makes Wendy feel is what bothers me because I feel like Wendy feels like, like do you know, it's like closed off around her almost. And I'm like, oh, I don't. I feel like you have a thing about your mom and I don't, I

wish she didn't feel that way. Like I can't stand that about her though. Like. If you can never do enough to please her. Mom, right? Makes sense? Other Nigerian people I know though, that's like a pretty common. I with a lot of like, I think freshly immigrated families, like first generation Americans, there's a lot of like first generation immigrants, a lot of like living up to your parents expectations and stuff. I, I've heard that from some of my friends.

So yeah, it can be a lot, I'm sure. But we got to meet Kiarna's mom. And she looks like she's six years older than Kiarna. I know, right? I thought it worked Kiana at first. I did too. Like I was like, oh, that's oh, wait, no, that's not. They clearly just walked out of the same glam room together and then walked onto the camera. They had the. Same. Oh my God it was wild. I've never seen anything. But even her outfit, I was like, that could be Kiana.

Like she would wear that like, and she's yeah, Oh my God, I need to know what elixir she drank because wow. Yeah, she looked. Amazing and. She had the patience to listen to Qiana talk about Greg, which I barely have, so. Right, she said. I don't like you with him. Well. I appreciate that who you are when you're with him. Yeah. Yes, and she also was like, I also raised you better than this. Like she's like a very like, like it's not tough love, but it's like, you need to hear this.

And I really like that. No, I like the stance of I raised you better than this, but not like you need to have more discipline type of thing. It was like I raised you to understand that you are the creator of your own happiness and you're a queen and you're #1 and you deserve better than that. I thought that was nice and nice, yeah. That's the word. And then we head over to Wendy's house and happy Eddie's getting ready to expand his operations into into New Jersey and.

Actually, sorry, I hate, you know, interrupting before we get off of Tiarna and Greg. Do we we? We're all in agreement. Greg isn't making a comeback like she's done with Greg. Or is she leaving the door open so we have to? So she's open. She mentioned the main car a little bit. And then they're going to be done. I have a feeling 100%. I think she's attached to who she thought Greg was and what they thought they could be, and I think she's struggling a little bit to let that go.

But the fact that she has moved out and it's been months now is good. Yeah, yeah, OK. She reminds me so much of my ex uncle Big Joe when he was with my aunt Tina and they got remarried and divorced like 3 times so like I have a feeling that's what's happening like. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. It reminds me of Cord and Tina for We'll Have to Live but. That's like a real life soap opera. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, you're right. She needs, she needs to know.

I mean, I don't want to sit here and rag on a guy, but he does seem very ordinary and very not. He didn't want to see her. He doesn't want to see her flourish. He really wanted to see her on the same level as him and not do anything that, you know, he couldn't be part of. And I, I think that's always OK to see in a couple, you know, so. He also seemed to be like

there's nothing wrong with this. He seemed to have more like traditional values, and that's OK, but I don't see that for Qiana. Like she's like girl boss. I own my own business and it does really well. I got everything done. I have a picture of me in my bedroom. Like I just feel like they're not compatible in that way. Now, do any of us have a picture of ourselves that large in our bedroom? No. Not in my bedroom, but in my

entryway. Okay, all right, so I was about to say, I think I think you have you have to have one of those to become a housewife. So Travis, I think you are well on your way to becoming a Real Housewife. Next. Time we record together Portrait too. What'd you say? I love the Giselle amongst her wall of mirrors. Also had a self-portrait. Yeah, I love her so much. I love her so. Much when he was like wow, you must love yourself. And yeah.

That scene with Giselle, I know we're skipping around. I know you're probably good driver driving you nuts, Travis. But that scene of with Giselle having no one to talk to other than the cameraman and like like laying down on the bed sideways, like kicking her feet up in the air, like it was like what in the what in the hell? Weird. I. Would love it all day I I love

it so much. I could just tell she was a little bit uncomfortable because she was like, she was like, Oh, my bed is so comfy as if she'd never laid in it before. She doesn't have Robin anymore. When she's sharing that bed with her daughters, I don't understand. She doesn't have Robin anymore though, so like, she's like trying to, I don't know. Yeah, and Ashley was busy that day and couldn't, couldn't. I loved that, she said. She's been out in the streets, she said.

Do I have time for a man? Yeah, I do. I'm so. Busy with my podcast and with G and A, I'm like, OK, sure. What is G and A in the year 25 by the way? What are they doing now? Joggers not now if we tried, we looked at their website we would have bought like AG and a hat or something but it was just there was nothing available. Like we DNA merch but there's none. Yeah, maybe it'll be a Bravo con. Oh, if we're left, that's where. They relaunched. Should should we get you AG and

A? Do you need some GNA? If you ever, if you ever request, there's this thing at Bravo Con, the Bravo Bazaar, where everyone sells their wares and like this one big room. And that's where you can also encounter housewives or like Bravo liberties, unless they're like their assistant is running the booth. But you can sometimes see like, oh, look, there's Teresa selling her cookbooks or like whatever, or Happy Eddie, you know, selling. Yeah, Wendy was selling her

three Wick candle last time. But she wasn't actually there when we went. True, true. Yeah, So. But yeah, we could have got like a Happy Eddie shirt and that sort of stuff. Yeah, so if you like something, let us know. You can Venmo us later. I'll, I'll take a look. I'll see what's at the bizarre, but we head over to Wendy's house for Happy. Eddie's getting ready to go to New Jersey, and I feel like he's grown into himself a little bit.

Like he seems just brighter almost I. Believe it seems like he's found his truth, like he's happy with the happy Eddie's. Eye all the time. I would say maybe he's just excited. He can just be like, yeah, I smoke a whole lot of weed and I make money off of it. He's more recent now. Their son saying, well, Chick-fil-A is a large company, they would pay me a big salary, right? That was so funny to me because that's such a kid thing to say.

Like that's so kidding. We're not that young of a kid either, though. You like, you'd think you'd know that. Like minimum wage is minimum wage feels. Yeah, he's also not. He's not like. A real doctor. Yeah, I'm surprised Wendy didn't like reach across and give him a swat on the back of the head for saying he's not a she's not a real doctor or she didn't mention her 4°. I don't think she wanted to explain on camera that it's a PhD and. Why stop now?

She does it all the time. I know, I know. I think she was just like, maybe that's what it is, is that she's trying to stop being the like cocky Dr. Wendy thing. And so she was like. Yeah, we're watching On Brand with Jimmy Fallon, that new marketing show. He has with one of the one of the contestants. He has like 3°. He's like, oh, he's a teacher, He's a professor of marketing and he has like he may involve his degrees. I'm like, oh, just three.

Wendy has four. Yeah, so better get back to school. There's still time, Sir. And then we go with Ashley. Oh, I like, didn't finish this note all the way, but Ashley heads to what looks like the tackiest store on God's green earth and oh, I. Feel like they always go to right? But not. Waiting from last year. Because. I thought it was, yeah. We were like, why? It's not Vivian this year because everyone Stacey alienated. Her, yeah. Right. But like we've seen this woman before, right?

Like the woman with. The. Dixie, we've been in the store. Yeah. I it's just. I like I you couldn't pay anybody to be in here. It's it just feels so overstimulating to me. It's giving prom. It's giving prom. School. Yes. Well, I mean, if it's Ashley's favorite place to shop, we can imagine how loud it is there. Yeah. But we we get the headline of how much money Ashley got out of the divorce.

And I feel like Michael Darby was 100% trying to hide money and assets during like their separation because like, Ashley looked like she was poor for a little bit. Oh, yeah, she was. She was worrying for sure. And then yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think too that she like knew how much money he was basically holding out on her and that was like stressing her out because she's like I need that.

But she looks so she got that $2,000,000 and she went right to the Med spot and she said she said fix me up. She said do a baseball. And I love that she looks happy. She looks relieved, like there's a weight off her shoulders. She has enough time. Time to like really give it to Stacey and turn this through. All the research.

Do all the research well. Stacey shows up and she brings that up. And the way Stacey reacts to everything, like, while it's bizarre to me, I find it so funny because she's just like, well, do you want the truth? And then Ashley said please, yes. One thing I want is for you to quit lying. Yeah, it was. She's just like, I let him go, Ashley. I let him go like the way I'm just like, no you. Yeah, yeah. That's not the truth. I loved it because I loved how

exasperated Ashley was. And it's like, yeah, she's not going to give you what you want, so deal with it. Like, and how you have the audacity to be exasperated. Like, why aren't you doing housewife? Like you should be doing housewife. And it's like, I'm not going to eat me. Yeah, and I just feel like we're not going to get it out of Stacey, and that just has to be OK.

I also thought it was so funny that Stacey was talking like it would have taken Ashley weeks to do this search query to try to find the lawsuit. How does she have the time? How does she have the time The last time you googled something, Stacy? Like it doesn't take that long. She had to get a membership to Lexus Nexus. What the fuck? Like I I also liked how hard Ashley was just like going in it, whether it was at this moment or later on when she's like you are lying.

Like she was just so worked up about it that she wasn't even sugar coating it and just being like you are a liar. But I slipped out like. Where my theory comes from, I was like, why are you? Why is it this big of a deal? And I'm like, oh, there's something there. Yeah. I loved like Stacey saying the imaginary friend and she said Ashley kept saying like she's very real. She's an actress. It's this person. And I guess she pressed Ashley was pretty good too. Yeah, Ashley was pressed.

Yeah. And maybe maybe that's where that maybe that's where Stacey's work comes in. But for the second time in this episode, she storms off. And Ashley just got the level walk off. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, she does do that a lot. She just like sprints out the door. We go over to Giselle's house and I just hope God I love her so much and I want to get into Scott and Jeff and why I'm wrong apparently. Oh no, no, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Here's.

The thing I've had a precarious relationship with Giselle. I used to love Giselle when the show first started and then around the Monique era, which by the way, I totally forgot, like Monique's going to be on the show. Like when they showed like the trailer at the end, I was like, Oh yeah, that's right. Because there's so much else going on with all these women. Like I'm so excited.

So around that time of Monique and then with Candace, I really, really disliked Giselle. And I think we finally got to a good place in my head last season. And so like I'm OK with Giselle, but now with this coming at Stacey, I'm just like, no, I don't like this. I don't like you and I don't like.

I don't have to say I am. For me, for me, it just comes down to the same thing that is bugging me about Ashley is that neither Giselle or Ashley have anything to offer to the show other than getting in someone else's business. And it's like, give us something like we don't they? Don't have personal storylines? Yes, there's like Giselle's made-up boyfriends too. She was not dating dude face from like summer house, winter house. I don't know what house it was. That was BS.

She was not getting back together with Jamal. That was BS like just stop it like pot, meat kettle and she. Tries to ice out everyone and tries to like. Cast people. I hate it like she tried to ice Wendy like you are not the casting director, you're not the producer. Just be a good housewife because you can be a good housewife. You can move story, you're great, but like, don't try to move the pieces. Move the story, not the pieces. That's a good point.

You're right. I think you're experiencing like what I went through with Robin, like, and I think it was a season Monique came in maybe like where it was just like, it got very uncomfortable for me because I was like, I love her. What? What is she doing? Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I definitely love Giselle 10 times more without Robin right now. Like, I mean, I and I love Robin. Like I've. I. Thought Robin was great like I just didn't. Like them?

I didn't like them together because again, all they did was sit there and pile on other people and sit there and like kind of just point out what everyone else was doing wrong. And then they themselves were doing worse, I feel. So I just. Said the same way about her with Ashley. I wish she weren't so close with Ashley to be honest, because something about Ashley just turns me off. The way she lives for the drama and she's like, she looks so happy to be fighting with

people. I really don't like that. And so I think it brings out the mean girl and Giselle, which definitely exists within Giselle. I won't they. Enable each other, yeah. Yeah, and it's like, I don't know. I feel like Ashley learned a long time ago from a very zealous producer, just like just get messy. We love you when you're messy. And she just knows the messier she is, the more she gets paid. And I love that she leans into it. I, I love that you can just see

the gears turning. But at the same time, it's like you. It's good to be messy and it's good to get in other people's business, but you need to give us more than just three years of getting divorced the same way Robin needed to give us more than three years of getting married. Let's just give us something different and then. When something actually did happen with Juan that she, you know, she kept it secret. So she. Was all the thing. I think. That was.

I'll never get over that. Yeah, that was a mess. I just, I don't know, like Jason needs to know that. If there were more of a balance with like her personality versus her being messy, I think it would be so much better because I do live for her. Like little one liners where she's like just poking the bear. But like, it doesn't have to be all of that, you know? Like we still like you as a person even though you don't have your daughters anymore.

You're right out of daughters. Now what are you going to do? You know who I loved? It was Tia, the New Girl. Oh, the Prince. OK, Yeah. Yeah, she was she was she. We met her at the party. We met. At the blooming party. Yes, who did we the blooming Angel Angel was the one we met first Angel master. I also a big fan of her. I think the two new housewives are going to be great.

I do feel like the one the British one is 100% going to be a one season housewife though, like something about her just feels like you're going to be a one and done. But yeah, I. Just feel like it's going to be so dramatic and fun. I didn't tell she just has that fire in her. You feel like she's me one and done because she doesn't want to come back or just because she's just going to kind of be a dud of a kind of. Hang on, I wrote this down somewhere.

Oh, OK, so this is OK. So this is our introduction to the other new house like Tia Glover. She's a luxury realtor and she's from London, so she'll be around for one season. It's just a vibe I got, I guess. I don't know. And. I loved Angel. I think she could really be like a staple, almost like a like a Cherise replacement because unfortunately I feel like we're never going to get Cherise back. I love Cherise but I think but I really liked Angel.

I thought she was so like relatable and cute and. Hot. It's sturdy, hot. It doesn't hurt. You're very nice, yeah. Yes, they do seem very, very nice. They give me the same vibes that Monique and Chris Samuels gave me when they first came on the show, where it's like, look how great we are and how proper and how wonderful and lovely. And then I feel like we're going to see it eventually, and I can't wait. I could tell Monique could fight from her first episode, so I'd be angry, but yeah.

Oh. Yeah, you can see it. Yeah, yeah. Was it the rapping? Is that, is that how you figured it out? No. It's just her general demeanor and the way she gets so worked up about everything. Fair I. Forgot about the rapping. Oh my God. I. Loved the rap, I said. Oh, she is Trina. Look at her. I also didn't know that I think I've said this on the podcast before. I didn't know that she and Chris Samuels were divorced until they dropped, like the preview for this upcoming season.

And I was like. I found it on you on our podcast. I heard it in the news, too, because they're also on that love and marriage show per season that Carlos King produces. And then they bought that and then got divorced. And so, yeah. Do we know why was there tea there? I don't know, I hope she like. Is very forthcoming rumors about her with her trainer. Oh, which brings us back to Giselle and trying to say that that was happening and maybe one of those kids wasn't his feet.

Messy, Messy. She's right. No, she's right. I mean, yeah, I'll, I'll go, I'll, I'll put a big plus in the Giselle column if she's right on that. It's just the sort of thing, it's like Giselle always insinuates things. And I know that's a really horrible thing. You can't really just come out and prove and say, so I get why. But like, yeah, I just want, I just want some concrete like something. Also, Giselle loves to like throw the rock and hide her hand, you know?

Like what? What do you mean we're talking about? Yeah, she. Does I'm talking about. So we head over to Ashley's divorce party and I like, I like the idea of a divorce. Oh, please go ahead. Absolutely. I was going to say we the whole aside from like introducing Angel, I felt like it was. Let's give a moment for Qiana and Angel to like rag on Wendy. Yes.

Like. Just that whole for Angel to be like, yeah, I know Wendy kind of, you know, she's several years older than me, but we went to college together. But, you know, several, several years. Wendy has such a history of being like, I don't really know that person that if I knew Wendy and I were going on Potomac, I would pretend I didn't know her because I know that she would pretend she didn't know me, if that makes sense. Yes, Mecca. I forgot about Mecca.

Exactly. Yeah. It's like it's so I I wondered if that was why, if she was like, yeah, I knew of her. She was like my Big Sisters roommate or whatever. I kind of understand why because Wendy is very much like I'm a doctor. I run with the elites. I don't know who that woman is. Christ, it's. Not in my circle. Why Kiana is has beef with Wendy I forget.

I don't think that she knows. I think they're friends, but Kiana's Kiana was upset because her Med spa beauty lab situation was sponsoring an event she told Wendy about. It turns out Wendy was a speaker at the event and didn't say that to Kiana and then also when Kiana showed up to set event Wendy didn't acknowledge her. Wendy was on stage. Wendy was on stage speaking. Yes, that's what Kiana leaves out. And she didn't know. I want to give a shout out to my girl Kiarna in the audience.

I see you, girl. Hey. She's walking in Laid. That girl with the crown, that's my Kiarna. Nice to see you. Baby, we So we're at Ashley's divorce party and I, I love the idea of a divorce party. I think burn it to the ground. I love, I love divorce. So happy for that. When when my ex and I broke up we were together for like 8 or 9 years almost and we were talking about like we should just have a divorce party and we always talked about it.

We never got around to doing it, mainly because once we stopped living together we were like, oh, I don't want to see your face again. And you weren't married. And. We weren't married, but we were together for gay men together for almost 9 years. I. Mean we only had one husband. No, you're my. Only husband and the only one

I'll ever have. It's a divorce party and I look for Ashley too, especially since it's it is like a new era for her because like Andy, Cohens asked nothing of her except where is your divorce for the best? I don't know. Chelsea about this party and I was so happy to see her. Yeah, but we're going to say. You think we're going to see Ashley actually do some real dating this season? Are we still going to get some weird love hotel rejects and stuff like that?

Or, or the what would they call the guy last year the the blonde? Oh, the the young guy, Yeah, I don't remember. Oh, poor man. Yeah, anyway, he's poor man. Something or another? Jack. Something. Jack barked in. It's all right. Yeah. Something. And then Stacy decides that she's going to be the bigger person and show up to support Ashley and she needs to tell Ashley that. And I hate it. I hated that. I didn't need it. But I mean, good for her to show up.

I mean, so many other housewives would not after that big fallout and. True. They'd be like, well, I'm not going to come and support you. Why? Why would I? You know they'd make it about them. You think I'm a liar? I mean, not that Stacey didn't make it about her when she got. There. Yeah, yeah. I was that I, I was that. She was there not only for the mass. That's fair. You know. Stacey I don't know. Wendy's shows up looking incredible like God Almighty. It was like that pale blue like

tufted thing left. It. Was like the dress that Perry wore like season 6 of Sex and the City in the in Paris. Where? She didn't know exactly the bathroom and then leave the bedroom, which is like because she's waiting for the Russian who never showed up. And it was just like, just for that scene, she wore that dress. It was a lot of dress. And I liked it, yes. Yeah, but they're 100% setting Wendy and Angel up to be rivals this season.

Like the way that they you saw them interacting like 100% they are going to fight this season. Because I love them both. They're much better fights to be had. Maybe it'll be a good arc, so by the end of the season they'll be in a good place, yeah. Maybe I actually and Fiona aren't long from his friendship. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Wendy tends to leave scorched Earth, though. I don't think that they're going to make up at the end of it. I don't know. I don't think it's going to be

an arc. It will be interesting to see for sure. I mean, I'll watch it either way. I I love them. Like together we're separate. I think in Kiara and Wendy were having that conversation and he was like looking at her, like what are you saying? What are you doing? Like, what are you trying to do? Like why are you upset? Like she was really like very puzzled of like, what's the issue? Normally I'm not on Wendy's side

of things. I just, I love her, but she's very like elitist to me and she just rubs me the wrong way. But this time I could because most of the time I'm like, you knew exactly what you were doing, girl, and you are pretending. And most of the time she'll get in the confessional and be like, yeah, I did that. But this time it seemed like she genuinely, it was like out of left field for her. Yes, yes, I.

Don't know. They obviously did not talk like in the in between seasons because she was just like we have beef, no. Not one of them spoke to each other. No. And then we closed it out with we cut over to Giselle, Ashley and Stacey, and it's so incredibly awkward. And apparently Stacey's had bad breath the entire time she's been on the show. And that's my personal hell. Like if I had bad breaths and like I found out on national television, I'd kill myself. Like, there's no way.

That's really sad. As much as I kind of want that to be like a a detail that is true, it also just screams like just mean girl. Like I have nothing better to say other than your breath stinks. You stink. Yeah. Like, OK, well, no, she actually did have something better to say because immediately escalates when Stacy pulls Ashley aside to Ashley screaming with your size 11 feet gallop away. Oh my gosh, what's happening out there? Get out of here with your size 11. Gallop away. OK.

And did the actual gallop motion. And then Stacy came back to Ashley by calling her the devil. And I just know that when Stacy said that, I was like, oh, she thinks that's a real insult. And she thinks that she's getting her. And I I feel bad. Yeah, yeah, you're like, you're like, she might as well be. Oh, Fiddlesticks. Like that would be a good insult. Like on Beverly Hills, they would never recover and talk about it for like 10 episodes.

Oh my God, what epidemic? It's like, oh, you call me the devil. Wasn't it Beverly Hills? Or is that just our old brunch conversation we'd have? Is it worse it was on Beverly Hills? I was. Is it worse to be called the C word or to be called evil? And because on Beverly Hills they were like really debating that and, and most everyone we talked to is pretty much like call me evil all day long. Like I don't really care. Like every. Other people all the time. Honestly, I don't care.

Neither one would really offend me, especially on the Real Housewives. Hello. Yeah, and housewives, I expect some good compound insult. Like it better be like a string, like 8 different curse words strung together to make a new language and then I might be offended and. Calling her an imp because she's short. Come on, Stacey. An imp was already Candace used the imp insult the best. Candace is the one who. Would like. Candace would really go in on Ashley and her.

Friend. Yeah. So missing Candace is one thing, but did any of us miss Mia on this episode? I forgot about that. He's dead to me, He's dead to me. They mentioned her very briefly and then they kept it new. Yeah, like I don't miss it at all. There was like one shot from the reunion and that was it. And it didn't have anything to do with her. It was about, you know, the whole Stacey TJ thing. She's happened to be there, Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.

I really wanted to love Mia but then she showed her true colors and I didn't like. Them and she's yeah, that's the thing I like. I wanted to love her and she's trash. Like she is trash, darling. Yeah, she's wonderful. And without Mia, we're not going to have a Jacqueline. So we'll be, we'll be good. That's everything. They show like a quick like shot of Jacqueline and I'm like, oh, I guess no Jacqueline anymore. Is Jacqueline. For. That screwed herself. Jacqueline was just with me.

I didn't make friends with the other woman. And. Jacqueline hitched her horse to the wrong wagon, and I ever. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, she acted like a husband, acts on Real Housewives towards me, like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely. Dare you kiss that woman. Yeah. I forgot about them fucking Oh my God, Jesus God and. It's not even like I think they have this like weird lesbian relationship or anything that they were trying to hide.

I don't think that I but she just was so protective and strange towards Mia. I don't know. I don't miss that. That was weird energy, the whole. Thing was weird. That entire season was weird. That would be fair. Like. Yeah. When they went to Miami and like they showered together. Yeah, and that was the beginning of the whole thing. Yeah, that. Was the most normal part of it, I would argue. Right. And then her old husband was like, I'm mentally ill and

that's why I'm mean. And I was like, OK, yeah. Real. Dark real quick. Yeah, like this is not, this is not eye candy, brain candy anymore. Like, this is too deep. I can't do it. Can I ask how much you're looking forward to Ashley Darby Drag king again? I love, I love I. Love that she does it and it happens, but I'm just like, this is like your entire personality ends up becoming. One episode of it I'm fine.

Well, and then in the trailer when she's like, you know, accusing, she's in full drag king and she's accusing Stacey of being weird and it's like, ma'am, it's her. Yeah, I love that very oxymoron, her beard. That's here's the thing about her drag king. It's not good. I've seen much better drag kings. If you're watching The Great British Bake Off, they have a drag king on there. She kills it. He, I don't know if you do that for drag kings like you do for Queens, kills it.

Yeah, I don't want, I don't want to shit on her like, you know. Expression expression. No, I'll shit on that part because that's not art. No, I just want to shit on her expression and also like you know her her ally ship of. Sorts well, she's a member of the community.

She's bisexual. Yeah, I love that she's showing that on this show and I and I want her to keep singing and Drag King I I think if any, this is going to sound so mean, but there's no other way to say it. I think it's inspiring to watch someone who's not the best at their craft like persevere. That's why we keep doing the podcast. No, we podcast. We all podcast better than Ashley sings. To issue a public apology for a performance is insane. See, poor bird of Flack, rest in

peace. That just killing me softly indeed. And on that note, they're about to put me out of this study room at school, so we should probably close this out. But I, I love this, you guys. I want to do this for the Beverly Hills premiere. I want to do it for all the premieres. I love this with you guys. You guys are so much fun. Tell them where they can find you. No, we're online at Husbands watching housewives.com and wherever you get your podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, all that

stuff. Instagram, Facebook, all the TikTok. TikTok don't stop. Husbands watching housewives type that in anywhere, just not pornhub. We can't see those. Results And Emma, we'll close this out the same way we always do. Thank you for listening. Thank you for being here. We love you. From Indy to where is the newest 1, I feel like we got one in Brazil again. But from Indy to wherever you are, we love you and thank you for being here. We love you, we'll see you next time.

Thank you again. Husband's watching housewives. This was so fun. Thanks for having fun. Thank you. Me too. We'll see you guys later. Thanks guys. Bye guys, bye.