Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff. And we just watched episode of The Real Housewives of Miami. Sure did. Pianvenidos, Emiyami. Just call me Will Smith. Wow, didn't didn't see that coming. Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a surprise. You're a word. Smith I'm a word, I'm a surprise, unlike this episode. I mean, it was surprising, but the season was is season so far at Miami is turning out to be like one or two notes.
I think that's still maintaining, although I guess Beverly Hills was still one note at this point. Lord, it was Beverly Hills. We still be talking about the Texas messages. I know be awful so I guess yeah. But no, it was a good episode. What happened before the party though? Well, we are talking about text messages I. Guess it is Texas messages. Yes, we we were entered. Julia's boys. Boys. Yes. Sons. Yes, I guess they're now got to the point where they can actually be on camera.
Yeah, things went through. Very cute, very loving. Martinez got a spring in her step. Allegedly. Yeah. And then Adriana and Alexia come over in the Battle of the Neon Tiaz. Yeah, Tiaz, which means aunties. Thank you, Julia. See, we're we're learning. We're learning things. Yes, I assumed as much when when Alexa came in and then sister should be called. Tia. So with her doughnuts, yes, look like crappy doughnuts too. Yeah, they did. They looked like oh God, I'm so yeah work today was.
I was so looking forward to it 'cause it was so someones birthday at the office. My boss all day yesterday was like, remind me to buy doughnuts tomorrow, Remind me to buy doughnuts tomorrow. And he didn't even get into work yet and someone brought in doughnuts and I was like, I was like, oh, and I so he didn't bring in doughnuts. So the doughnuts I brought them were like, really? They weren't even Krispy Kreme from Krispy Kreme. They were the Krispy Kreme, clearly from like Safeway or
something. Shut up. Yeah. So they weren't even that's. So lame. Yeah, sounds like so lame. He should have still brought in doughnuts because Krispy Kreme are not good anymore. Like they were good, like 199798 that was fine but now no good. They're so over the sugar. Let me tell you someone, there's a meeting in my office and someone brought in their spouses.
It happens like every meeting now because this person's spouse bakes and every time it's like, oh, free desserts or free, you know, pastries for the breakfast meeting. And I just saw them down there. I'm like, Nope, because I had one once and it was some weird ingredients as as Teresa would say, and it was not good. It was I was like. When they're like when? So I want just a basic doughnut.
Yes. When it gets pastries and it's like, oh, there's this weird croissant and there's this thing and like, oh, there's almonds and there's for no, I want a doughnut. I don't want that bullshit. Yeah, I don't need a Danish, I don't need no, I want a doughnut yes. And lack of doughnut, I think the the edges of doughnut I will take is cinnamon roll that's. Yes, because that's in the family. I also don't like a fancy doughnut in San Francisco.
There's a lot of places that have like these fancy artesian bullshit doughnuts that like, it's, oh, it's like this and it's a blueberry mixed with bacon and da da da. And I'm like, whatever happened to glaze? We're having to like sugar doughnut. Like I don't need this crap. For you, Yeah, yeah. No. Yeah, yeah, Alexia brought the equivalent of the crappy Krispy. Kreme Yeah, she did. Safeway doughnuts, Yeah. So I mean.
She I will say I'd rather have a Safeway doughnut than a Krispy Kreme. Yes, I have a generic doughnut from Safeway that's like then a Krispy. Kreme same. I agree. I agree. But yeah, you know what we need Angela's fans. We need to buy those because because it gets warm up here and I was like, man, if I had a fan G, it'd work. But then it might be picked up on the mic is the problem. Well, it turned down real low. OK, I. Don't know if there are settings
on earth. I should look this up, it'll blow your. Hair back too. You can. You look amazing. A maze. So yeah, there's that scene. I mean, you know, lovely boys. So we also was that their house, they live on a farm. She has the farm, I think it's the whole thing with her. Hence her chicken coop is full and now is her. Her house. I mean, we'll get to Julia later on. But cute. Boys, lovely. Boys. Lovely, yes? Cute, lovely boys. So then she had her van for her
friend Kamara who? Oh yeah, that whole thing. I just remember Camaro because I didn't watch this new, soon to be over iteration of Queer Eye. I know him from real world. And so that's, you know, that's when he was like kind of a douche and now he's like fully out on himself or whatever. But he was a bit obnoxious this episode. Well, he wasn't really in it that much, but what he did, he'd come out there. I was like, hey. Everybody, I smell money and I'm like, yeah.
What I was confused about was that I thought when she said, oh, and you know, I was very, it was very gracious on them to let me invite my friends. I figured it was going to be like a couple of them, not the entire goddamn cast. Friends and all. Linus Larsa, right? Yes, yeah, yes, because she had a birthday party but then also the new guest. I don't think she's a friend though because they have 3 friends. Carmen. Carmen Yeah, from Drag Race.
So it's basically like they, to me, it really felt like we're having an event in Miami and it's gay related. So what do gays love more? Housewife. Nice, true. You know what Carmen is? Carmen is like a friend of a friend, literally because she's Kiki's friend. He was a Oh, yes, so friend to friend Carmen, who people know from Drag Race and, you know, now she didn't really have much to say. I think she was kind of like taking it all in and.
Probably a lot to take in it is. Yes, I would imagine so, yes, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Again, I mean, that was, I guess, exciting and interesting. Nothing really happened. Nothing happened. Yeah, they kind of like, we're all it was. They were very civil. It was like, look, we're all civil and we're all like having a good time. And then, you know the calm before the storm of Gertie's party. Well, there was Larsa and Stephanie going closet shopping. Oh, right.
Where I I was a little cringent. I always cringed by Stephanie in her Gidget hat like I don't know what in the that girl in the Gidget what in the Sally fields are in 1965 She's doing it bugs me she's. Really has an aesthetic she's going for. And it's like, yeah, like it's like she's trying to be old money. This is what it kind of reeks like to me, but it's just you. Have to be old money to be old money, Yeah, you know.
And I believe we should refer to as cringed instead of cringe like it was I cringed when when anyone self diagnosis themselves. Oh God, I hear people say that like I. Mean at least if she's going to say I have ADHDI like that she didn't. She at least specified that like I don't really have it. I just joke that I do, but you know, I do Yeah. Oh, yeah, Thank you. But like, yeah.
And, and I have to admit I agree with her points that like, I wouldn't necessarily want to have a glass in my closet because that's. Yeah. You don't think about those things because it looks really pretty until it's like, yeah. Yeah, so that made sense. But yeah, it was just kind of a not a weird event, but it was an interesting. I've never seen some of the closet shopping before. I guess right? Housewife show. Right. It was just kind of like, yeah, it was. It was fun. It was fun.
But yeah, then it goes just straight to Gertie's event after that. Because nothing else really happened, I. Feel like something else had. To happen, I think no, it was that it was that Gertie's event where they talk about the Todd thing because someone tells Marisol that's oh, I can't remember who told her. Someone told Marisol that Todd told them that he's trying to win Alexia back. Oh, I didn't.
And Alexia said but yeah, Alexia was like, oh, I've been hanging out, hanging out with Todd and da, da, da. And I guess they like got together in some capacity, but it was a lot of Todd, Todd, Todd. And then but then she gets offended when you bring up Todd and like, that's my husband. And it's like, think of Frankie, OK, he left the house. He like moved out right in front of Frankie, right? I think there's got to be like, that was a line you can't cross. But with her, she's like, but
you know. Well, it's also the thing like. I don't think Stephanie's wrong for like feeling weird about like like all all Alexia does is badmouth Todd. And she didn't pull that party out of nowhere. It stemmed from Todd. Yeah. She wasn't going to this Instagram or slash. Life Coach. Thank you. Whatever you want to call this guy. So like just for fun, she has. Mirror Artist. Mirror Artist, She is having this issue with her husband,
thus begat the narcissist party. So when someone says this is about your husband, don't be offended because that's what it was about. But wasn't that what she was saying at that dinner with the weird guy for his birthday? Like that, you know, oh, you know, you know, Todd's a narcissist and da da da da. And like she was saying that around everyone. So it's like there's like I can
say it, but you can't say. It and that's true to a degree because you know there's things that we can say that others can't but like I don't think I guess your husband's when. We throw a whole freaking party about narcissism based upon your narcissistic husband. People are going to comment, Yeah. And don't be mad when someone says it, but that's. That's though the Teresa in her. Yeah, it does seem Alexia and Teresa share that overreactive like you. You just said something that I'm
supposed to be upset about. I'm not. Don't know if I actually am upset about it, but I'm supposed. To be, but on paper so. I'm going to react to it, but yeah, so I think really just getting to the the point of at at hand is I Gertie's party was great, a little cliche in a lot of ways. About the whole the cancer. Separation of life, Cancer, right? Yeah. Yeah. The fact that she quoted the entire Miley Cyrus song. You know that It's my party. I'll say what I want. I'll do what I want.
I'll drink what I want. Yeah, that's the. That's the whole Miley Cyrus. Part in USA, yeah. No, it's not part in the USA. It's the other song. I mean the whole like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. Yeah, that's that song. But just in general, a lot. I mean, they're cliches for a reason. And, you know, like the fact that she's like, I beat cancer. Like I, you know, I live life loudly and I can live differently now. Like things that, you know, I worry about, things that
actually matter. Like I get it. That was just a bit like, you know, I, it taught me a lot. It was a horrible thing. But like it, you know, I've grown and I've changed, you know, thank you to my husband and my boys for supporting me. Whatever, whatever, and then it shifted to exposing. Here's the thing. I understand what she was doing. I didn't understand like why she chose this particular point to hammer. Like what happened? Well, we knew what happened.
She got pissed because like it was two things she got pissed about. Let's go back-to-back to back. She got pissed about the stupid narcissist party when Julia after saying we're not going to talk about, we talked about and talked about it. Yeah, that was one. And then 2 when Julia saw Russell and it was super awkward for him because he's like, I'm not going to talk to you like a civil person when you threw water on my wife, you crazy person. And she was saying, oh, we're
fine. We're moving forward, we're good. And so those two things triggered Gertie to the point where she had to then pull up better Kenya, if we will, because no tacky poster boards. But she's like, I'm going to expose this person. Hey, assistant, I hate to do this to you, but can you put can you do like, can you get this up my you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah. On screen. I'm going to see you some screenshots and then you're going to put them on the
projector. So but I don't understand, like why that particular the cruise thing, I was like, what? It's about the cruise. Yeah. Well, because it's just basically it was showing that she did not beg to go on the cruise, that Julia is completely, you know, embellishing things. And, you know, I I get it again, it was not the right time. But the thing that's the worst, and I really hope it doesn't get glossed over. Yeah. Is the women like being so appalled they're.
So offended. Get out the front door. They did literally get out the. Front door they did Like Marisol said, there's the worst thing she'd ever seen. Yes, that is that I find that hard to. Believe speechless to that. I find that hard to believe because she's, you know, been on this show for so long, right? But I'm sure she's seen way worse. But like, you know, I get to a point, yeah, it could be considered tacky, especially done in the had that been a charity event. But I guess it was.
They were donating some money to charity, but it wasn't like it wasn't. Full. It wasn't. Like the Camaro event? Yeah, so. Like it was Gertie's party, she could do whatever the hell she wanted to. Like it was there to celebrate Gertie being alive and so sit there and act appalled but like Oh my God, I can't believe it. It's like. Let her, I feel like Gertie's like held in a lot of stuff. Literally.
She could have exploded and like wrung Julia's neck like a chicken when she threw water on her, but she didn't. And so she's held a lot in and been civil. And then, you know, she's only you can only be pushed too far. Should she have done it in that way in that forum? Perhaps not. It could have been maybe like released to their own group chat. Yeah. But to be so offended.
I get the idea of releasing messages between two people that shouldn't you shouldn't do that, but it's not as bad as throwing water on someone and humiliating them for Marisol. Be like how humiliating one it's not you that happened in Marisol right? 2 when this happened to to Gertie, you were like oh that's bad, but you still stayed there and didn't like walk away from Julian disgust. So the three make to make this as bad or like worse than that
is weird. It is weird and it's getting harder and harder to not think that it it's somehow, I don't know, race based. Racially motivated, yeah. Because. They're irate Karens. Again, Yeah. And exactly. They're like, they're, they're really painting Gertie as being the angry black woman. Yes. And it's just like. She's going so low. Right. So low. And yeah, I think that what Gertie did was on the tackier side of things. Like she could have been also I
think. But in the housewives scheme of things. Right. So The thing is that it wasn't the smoking gun she. No, it was not. It was a it was a smoking gun, but it wasn't like a gun Still smoking, if you know what. Showing that Julia is the worst of the worst. Yeah, it wasn't like just sitting there like blam, look how concise this is. It shows how bad Julia is.
It does. It kind of supports the narrative that Gertie didn't beg to go on this and like was asked to do this and that Gertie was doing Julia a favor. But it wasn't like crystal clear cut and dry that like this is what happened. So it wasn't you didn't. Read all that either, Yeah. Exactly, that was one of the Lord girls problems was just like it was so was that Larson? Larson she's like, it was too many paragraphs like mine is.
No, I used when I, when I got whenever, like people would post comments if they're too long, I would feel too many words, too many words. But that seems to be what Larson was saying. Too many words. But yeah, I just, I don't like that. First off, yeah, I think it was tacky because I think Gertie could have done a better job of making Julia Lily shit.
I think that they were all taking Umgridge over the fact that it was such a public display and that she was sharing text messages, which is what I think the issue is on all the Housewives shows is that like, look, I thought that was between us. Like there's certain things that aren't meant for camera and our text messages. Are one of them. Which is yes and no, because half the housewives end up showing the text messages
anyway, and they're always. Screenshotting things to putting out like hello 3 and Kyle. I mean, if you're. Not back to what Brenda said. Say it, forget it, write it. Regret it. Exactly. So yeah, one thing Alexia was saying, you know, she'll just, she calls people she doesn't like text, you know, so you don't get caught up in stuff like this. Good on her, yeah, But yeah, I, I. I just don't say say things in text to people I don't trust.
I mean, you trust them now. There's someone I would say, I mean, if I say shitty stuff, it's going to be to you or to Ashley or like, you know, Sinclair, but I'm not going to, yeah, like put it out to somebody. You know who I would think would expose me? Oh yeah. But again, this is Housewives land. Whatever. You have a falling out with someone, you know, like let's say maybe they don't show up to your wedding and you realize a complete total, you know, then then maybe they have text
messages. But you know, whatever, I'm fine with that tool. Anyway, turns out he's our #1 fan. I'm like what? What? Thanks. He loves Miami. What? That's the only housewives he watches. I have to say, like I'm getting I'm over this whole Miami thing. Like I'm really. As a franchise. As a franchise, like is not keeping my interest. I'm I just don't think the drama is present and. There's just. Not enough acknowledgement.
I don't know. I think if Alexia were to acknowledge and stop doing this whole, I mean, Todd's great. Like I just I know that there's a level of delusion that people like seeing on these shows and I'm just not seeing enough of it. Or the what I'm saying is just to like it's just not solid enough. I want some meat to my delusion and there's just no meat. It's all just seems very like wispy and passerby, like everything. I'm not into it.
I don't think they're likable enough for me, aside from Gertie and Lisa and Adriana and Kiki to a certain extent. Yeah, I'm liking Stephanie so far. I think last week I was calling her out, but I liked. Well, we forgot that that she went up against Alexia. Yeah, good on you. Just and they need to be said. Well, and when she comes out of the the restaurant or the church, whatever you want to call it church and says event space and says, you know, like, I'm just trying to be neutral.
I mean, that wasn't the best choice of words. She could just. I'm just, you know, I'm you. To this I'm just trying to hear both sides because I just walked in here. This is like day 5 for me. And for Alexi to be like, oh, if you don't, you know, you can't be out here. You're either in there kissing her ass. I'm not kissing her ass. Do you know Stephanie? I know you don't really know her, but like, from what you've seen of her, do you think she's
gonna kiss anybody's ass? Yeah. Yeah. Like, she doesn't need the show, right? You know, she's like, she's rich, rich. But yeah, she just, I mean, also, it's the same thing. It's like there's a reason Gertie did what she did. It's like for them to react. To get to that point where you deal what you what she did, there had to be something behind it. Not just like I'm being petty. So I mean. There's a little bit of being petty, yes. Just being, but not just being petty.
So for them not to hear that, for them to be like, I'm so appalled by this. And by the end, I mean Alexia, Marisol, Larsa, Julia, of course, and Kiki to a certain extent, although she went back in. Yeah, it's just laughable. And to me, to me, the four of them have to be so upset about it because they worry that it could happen to them. They're like, oh, I text her stuff. Too. I think they just don't like Gertie. Like just say you don't like Gertie and call it a day.
Yeah, that can be it too. And I think it it it you're not doing yourself any favors by throwing these slings and arrows at this woman of color in her group. And you know. Besides that, though, like OK, so they don't like Gertie. Do they really love Julia that much? Like, oh, they they can't imagine. I don't know how they grow. Like, she's kind of a tool. Yeah. And like kind of, I mean actually. And she can never dry her hair. Dry your hair, girl.
I mean like you can't do the wet look every time. I know it's Miami, but still. Yeah, 'cause Stephanie was kind of doing a wet look too. I was. It worked better. Worked better. For once she like, I mean, it was still a little mother of the bride, but it it was a better yeah, outfit for her, better
outfit. Well, yeah, I I think that's, I think that's my problem is that, you know, maybe you don't agree with what Gertie did, but have especially if you're not a narcissist, Alexia, and you have empathy. Like, shouldn't you? I'm an empath, You and Kristen Dowdy, I think. Kristen Dowdy is more of an empath. An Alexa. Yeah, especially someone who's just seems so out of touch with their own behavior, you call yourself an impasse.
If you're so out of touch yet so up your own ass is really a a feat. Yeah, it really, really is. But that's The thing is like, even if you don't agree with what she did or how she did it, like if you really do care and you feel for other people, you would think, well, there are reasons she did that. Like it's, I don't feel like what she did was cruel. No, she wasn't saying, you know, things, horrible things about Julia. Yeah, it was black and white. This is what happened.
And it was, It's not like my experience. It's like these are the texts that she sent me. And this is what happened about a cruise that she says, I beg to go on, right? Wasn't like she was saying. Julia from day one's been sorry I keep interrupting you. I've been painting a picture of Gertie as this really shitty friend and not my safe space. And it's just, it's, I don't know, like why she's so upset and like why she feels like almost like she's competing with Gertie.
Like I have two boys too. I know about cancer as well. It's not a competition it. Yeah, now you mention it does. It definitely seems that way. And it just rings hollow every time she does it. She's just like, yeah, like she's trying to just not one upper, but like the only way she feels she can. What's the word I'm looking for? The only way she can be friends with her is by like sharing the
same exact experience. Well, also do the thing with with Julia, it's like, you know, she is in the shadow of Martina. And without her, she wouldn't even be on the show. Yeah, you know, And so I think she wants attention. She wants to like, be like, I'm a star, I'm cool too. Hence hanging out with the cool girls Alexia and Marisol, although that's your definition of cool. Yeah, that they're, you know, Marisol's cool. But like, they're not. I don't know to me what's.
Julia on the old iteration of Miami. No. OK, so she really was only selected? Because of Martina. Martina for the And I think the fact that she's a lesbian, yeah. It's like they didn't really have that. Yeah. Foreign housewives a full time out. Was it I even forget she's a lesbian because I just. She's so of her own. I'm just. You know, I feel, I feel like she's really producing herself and the fact that she, it just seems like it's very thought out.
Yeah. And even since, like tonight when she was so she was pissed off, but yeah, she wouldn't show it. Yeah, on camera. But I mean, I think that's, I mean, that's just she's pretty stoic in nature, I think, and everything we've seen so far. Is it the Russian? I think it is the Russian. I mean, I don't want to, you know? But then she lost. Her because she's Russian. But then she lost her shit with with threading the water so. Yeah, not my IP, I don't know. I don't know, I just I.
She's not my safe space. She's not. Much like Gretchen. Yeah, not safe. Yeah, both women. I feel like if you sat on a plane, they'd say some things that you'd just be like, I, you know, you can't say that out loud. And I'm tracked with you for four hours and 4 hours now, yeah. I don't like that. Yeah, I I, you know, when we first watched the relaunch of Miami, I liked Julia. I thought she'd be someone that I would enjoy. But we only watched like 1 episode. And now that we.
I'm surprised she even like, remembers Julia. I don't remember Julia from like when we watched that one episode of Miami like. Three, I liked her. I liked her aesthetic. I liked that she was, you know, kind of the, the tall kind of glam sort of. And she, she's not, it's weird. Now that I've see her, I would say she's trying hard. But at the time I felt like she was just like, this is who I am. Like, she's not trying to like keep up with a modern aesthetic and like do all the things Larsa
and Lisa are doing. She's just like, I'm just tall and I wear, you know, shiny things and I slick my hair back, you know? And that's the thing. So I, you know, that I kind of enjoy that She's just not the, she's not a girl's girl. If we're going to use that terminology, like she's not trying to be like pretty, she's just trying to be herself. No, that's you. Know not she's not trying to be pretty. Pretty and beautiful and glamorous.
I mean pretty is just kind of like, you know, pretty and and she's not that she's more on the glamorous side of anyway, don't you worry about it. I understand what I'm talking about. I'm. Glad you do. So, but yeah, I mean I need more to happen. Is there a Girls trip coming up soon? There should be. There's a boat trip next week, although it's not really a trip. They're just like getting in a boat, so. So I mean, maybe that'll be fun and that'll.
They do need a girls trip. They need to like, get on Stephanie's jet and go somewhere. Yeah, because right now just this drama about between Lisa and Larsa and then is Todd or not Todd, I don't care. And then Gertie and yeah, because if they do anymore with Gertie and Julia, it is just going to come down to they keep painting Gertie as the angry black woman. Yeah, I don't feel that's the case. I feel Gertie at every right to do what she did.
I don't agree that it was the best way of doing it, but like, it's her party. It's not. It could have been worse. No one got assaulted. Yeah, and again, it was about a stupid text message about a cruise. It wasn't about like, you know, it wasn't what Kenya did on Atlanta. It wasn't about someone's marriage. It wasn't about someone's, you know. Partners getting chemo. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, she's going to. Get that text?
Yes. Yes. So I wish that they, that's, I think the only other thing that I wish would have happened is instead of storming out, I wish the other women had made it more clear as to why that bothered them so much. Because then it just turned into this whole thing about, I can't believe you'd stay in there and like kiss her ass after she did that. But there was no real discussion about why it bothered them so much, except for the fact that she couldn't remember what Game
of Thrones was. I think her Game of Thrones reference was better than Marisol's Carrie reference that was this dumb. What was that Mirasol's carrier reference? Oh, I was about. Sorry, I was thinking. Mirasol irks me. I gotta hurry. Mirasol really irks me. Really. Yeah. She's giving them a nerves like I I, I think after this night of the whole like that was the worst thing I've ever seen. Like no did. It for you.
Screw you. I did like her and Stephanie in the back of that Rolls Royce. That purple Rolls Royce seat was nice. That was nice, Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Mirasol. It's not my cup of tea. I'm with that. Like there's clearly you can see the couches again, like it was like Gertie and Lisa and Adriana and you can throw Stephanie in there too. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, it would be Alexia and
then. Larsa and Julia. Yeah. And I feel like it'll be Lisa, Gertie and Stephanie is. That what you have up there. Yeah, I need to switch those too, but yeah, basically. Interesting. We shall see. We shall see. Well, I mean, I'm, I'm, I guess I can't give up on Miami. But no, we're just going to see
where it goes. I'm I'm not going to give up mid season, you know, we get through the whole season, but it might not be fun for people to listen to me talking about every week, but I'm just like, I don't like it. Well, you might change your opinion or like soften a bit so. Why are they having more characters that I might intense. We'll see. We'll see about it next week. Well, that's not next week. No, next time. Till next time. Oh, sorry.
