Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. On a boat. On a boat below deck. Below deck. Below deck so late? SLC. SLC. No, it's good. Do you want to know another fun fact? This is our hundredth episode of Season 2. What? Yeah, I know. That's great episode for us to
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It was wild. It was, you know, it was funny watching it from the perspective of the Below Deck people. Yeah, we'll get more of that when the season premieres for them. We'll have to actually watch, but they're just like they're killing each other, like what is happening and it's like, oh, it's just another stuff. They act as though they've never seen a Real Housewives show. Like I don't think they have I think on of them.
I know they're on the network, but I don't think that they it's one thing to know about it. It's one thing to beat in it. Like imagine being in that fight where like Lisa Bartlett is flipping her hair 10,000 times around Sunday. Like, no, it's just that. No, it's just that you bet. You better have my back. You better have my back. I can't. I like she's just so like. Yeah, she was. ACT made it on. Yourself, honey. Yeah, yourself. Well, she was very irritated about something.
I can't imagine what, but we have to start back on. They weren't even they they. They get right to the boat. Well, I mean they still we have to see them flying and stuff I mean. Right. It was like the airport. Yes, they always need that. It's always so funny to see how much baggage people, literal and figurative baggage they travel with. Like really is Mary? She have so many outfits she must and she's like why are my backs so heavy? Well, cuz she packed them to the gills.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's interesting that that's normally a situation where an other housewife shows. They'd be like, well, isn't someone gonna bring these in for me? Like they would have like a Porter or something every. Every feels like every housewives show when they're at at the airport, it's always them bringing their own bags in interesting like to the airport.
They might get someone like help them out of the car, of course from the trunk, but they are like really Wheeling to let the check in right. And it's just funny for us to we do not check bags. Yeah, I don't. I would just hate it. Wasn't it Travis who was saying he checks bags? Oh, I was on one of the episodes of Bestie Approved. I was listening. Oh like he purposely checks the bags? Like he and Emma believe in checking bags. Like they want to roam freely through the airport with no no
baggage. Just I don't know that feeling and I don't want to know that feeling. I do not want to wait at my destination to pick up my bag to watch. Something spin around. I lost bags twice. I don't want to have it to happen again, even when we go to Bravo Con in two weeks, two weeks from Thursday. But we will just share a single bag, yeah. I'd much rather carry on and be on my way. But that's also mainly because the Oakland airport which I would fly in and out of for work
a lot. They are small airport but it takes forever for the luggage to load. The few times I had to check a bag I'm like never again. And especially when you're travelling for work, when all you want to do is get out of the airport and go home, you're just like, I don't want to wait 45 minutes for my damn bag. And I'll be so irate if we get that. If anyone wants to volunteer, no, I don't want to volunteer. You will take this bag out of my cold dead hands.
Well, we're on Southwest, so they're not going to do that. OK, so we will find out. I was going to say if we were on the other on Alaska I might upgrade us to 1st class. It's funny I've seen some other people on TikTok who were traveling and they're like it's weird. I checked for my flight and they're like do you want to upgrade for $45.00? I was like.
Never happened there. Yes, when we fly, maybe not for Thanksgiving, but next time we fly Alaska, if that comes up, we're doing it because it's just delightful. It's delightful. I'll experience at one time. Who would you want to sit next to on a flight? Wouldn't be Brittany, I'll tell you that much. That was, I guess, because Heather brought her on the show. She deserved it. But of those ladies which I have, Whitney, probably. Same. Whitney. Whitney.
Yeah. That'd be a good flight should. Be fun and easygoing and like let you sleep when you wanted to. Sleep. Exactly. And she would just be, yeah, wouldn't be all up in your business at the airports when we find out that Bronwyn is not going to be making the flight with them. And they're like, you know, it's so interesting to see, especially by the end of the episode where they're just all just losing their shit.
It's interesting. And in previous episodes of where they just pile on whoever has the headlines going. It's really interesting to see it kind of how sensitive they were at the beginning of the episode about like, well, I mean, is she going to? I mean, I wouldn't show like they were being very matter of fact about the whole. Situation, right? Let's let her talk about it. You know, we don't want to actually, we don't want to have a repeat of what happened with Lisa.
And I'm surprised Lisa wasn't like, oh really? So when but it with me. You're right, You know, I'll give her that one thing. Yeah, she didn't get that same that respect, but that consideration. Yes, yes. It, it seemed to me that maybe perhaps while they were at the airport, even though they knew, you know, the cameras were there, they were just kind of like, we're not really at work yet. We haven't clocked in yet. We're at the airport.
We'll clock in when we get off that plane 15 hours from that right? Right. Yeah. So also, yay for Salt Lake getting to go somewhere. I mean, I know normally it's like we're going to go to Vegas, so we're going to go to Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Oh my gosh. Palm Springs. And so now they finally, you know, get to go somewhere, I don't know, legitimate. Wisconsin, that was like, that was just last season. Was that last season? Yeah, it was. Right. First season, yeah. Yeah, so that's crazy.
So instead of Milwaukee, they're going to Below Deck in, I keep one in say Nevis, but that's Potomac. That's Potomac. Yeah, yes. Where are they? There's some other island. Something with the sea. Yeah. Hawaiian Calhoun something Let's. I want you to keep guessing so I can just look it up later. It sounds right there. You sounded like you're doing. No, it sounded like you're doing.
Mel speak. You're all Ka Wang Tay in the wind, Wayne. Was your goodbye Tay in the wind the Jodie Foster movie 1993 now if you haven't seen. It 1993? I've never seen it. Either 3 or 4. I've never seen now. We have time tomorrow. We have time for so much. We still need to watch big business one of these days. We. Do need to watch big business and yes. Did I share the story on the podcast about my 12th birthday? Did I? About beaches, I don't know if you did.
Yeah, real quick. Saying this because like, Scott's birthday is coming up and we're excited. And, and I don't know why I was recounting the story about how when I was 12, like, I had a birthday party where a bunch of us went to the movies and we went saw Beaches. It was like 10 of us. And it's really one of those tell us you're gay without telling us you're gay moments. But also like, what respect? Like, my mom's dead, rest her
soul. But like what respectable mother was like, yeah, let's bring the kids to see Beaches. The 12 year olds, and this is the way that the other 12 year olds wanted to go. Was it like a mix of guys and girls? Yeah. OK, it was. And so my only excuses it was the 80s. And so it was probably one of those things where just like, I'll just drop the kids off at the movies, They'll be fine, you know? Is that 88? 88 yeah, yeah. And it really as walking distance to, you know, I mean, a
long walk from my house. But you know, when you're 12 in the 80s, you could go walk in places. I mean no one got kidnapped until later right? So, well, yes, and. Back to Salt Lake. Beaches. Beaches. Birthday. It's such a also like, happy birthday, let's go see a depressing movie. Well, I mean when we my wings, I've probably been out for a while since yeah. And then probably thing, and I mean you forget that was really big with the 12 year old.
When you forget about Mayim Bialik doing a little tap dance number on the boardwalk. That was where Mayim Bialik was blossom. But she was still, you know, a spitting image for a young Bette Midler. Oh, it was perfect. Yeah, it was perfect casting Cece. Yeah, Cece. Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen Beaches in so long. I think I always see it like once all the way through. What? It's one of those movies. You just know it, you know? Yeah, I think I've still seen it like 9 times at least.
It's one of those movies that also whenever it's on, you'll watch it. I wouldn't say that I'm like that with like Lost Boys, but I wouldn't say beaches. I'm like that with the Poseidon adventure. Yeah. Especially if you get it before the boat flips over. It's rare. Very rare. Anyway, Speaking of boats flipping over, they get to River Island, which looked like a weird Hollywood set. It looked very pretty, very pretty, but was huge like it was.
I want to go on that boat like the luxury despite having to all share beds. Yeah, I love that. But you know there's 8 of. Them can we also like Lisa already right off the bat just being all like Angie's never been on a yacht. I always. Do dot and I understand like Angie, like ankle shaming Lisa? Does she have big ankles? I mean, maybe also I just I feel like. Is that where she wears those chunky heels? I feel like Angie just in general is kind of a tiny person.
Not that Lisa isn't like small framed, but like I yeah, I just don't. I think that you could probably hold Angie up to anyone and they would seem gargantuan by comparison, so. It was a random dig. It really was unexpected. Yeah, like Lisa being like Angie poor was one thing, but Angie being like, look at those half Earth. Ankles. Yeah, Angie probably got like a those hooves. Angie got some notes from Adriana in Miami, and Adriana was like, instead of knees, I'm gonna go for her ankle.
I saw someone in a Haitian mortician costume and Kings of Bravo posted it. Nice. A Haitian mortician? He forgot about that, didn't you, bitch? And you were to get him a coffee maker. Say what we'll say about Miami. That was actually a highlight of. Oh, Adriana, 10 out of 10. Yeah. So no notes, No notes. Let's sum up the Bronwyn thing, if we can. I mean, First off, I I know why does she have to show up in a costume like that every? Time. It's so dumb.
I love Bronwyn, but I don't need the costume. And that one I get. Before. Like I get how it's on. Like it's on on the nose but the girl sometimes on the nose is too on the nose. We're like a sailor suit. Right. Just because you have the perfect outfit doesn't mean you have to wear it. Not every time. Yeah, it was a. Little tweety bird too. The yellow. Yeah, it was a little bit. And then on top of that, it just like it squished her down in
some places. Not that we didn't get to see everyone, all the ladies, you know, and their their voluptuousness later, but like, that was not a flattering thing. It also gave her that weird 'cause it looked like she's wearing the rubber ducky life preserver thing. It just gave her kind of that weird like shape. It reminded me of like a, like a Miss Maisel, like Peekskill mountain comedy routine or something. It just seemed like she was in the middle of some weird, like,
1950s, you know, review. Catskills. Yes, Catskills, Things of life. I was like. So still upstate New York, upstate New York somewhere. But yeah, so the Bronwyn thing, she shows up on a tender later, they all like wave at her. And then she just basically says that all the news, that's all the headlines that have been spilled about her, some of them are really old and irrelevant. And she completely owns up to not paying her when she was 19.
Yeah, what I got from it was that that she had that eviction thing when she was 19 and had to leave BYU because she was pregnant. And then she's evolved with the case that she can't talk about because it was sealed and she aided the police and she can't talk about her part in it because it's sealed. But she does not have any charges. It's true. There are no mug shots from Brock and there's no actual like she stole a car, Grand Theft Auto, identity, whatever.
What it reads to me is that she 100% saved her own ass. Like she probably did some really shady shit and then she was just like, well, I'm going to. Get up, she like turned state witness. Yeah, she turned witness on whatever. So they're like all you know, we're not really after you. We're after whoever it was you were working with and that's why it's all sealed. Probably for her safety for her, you know, part in the whole situation. The mob. Yeah, could have been, I don't
know. But no, it just seems to me like that. She definitely did something bad. They had some evidence on her, and in exchange for her testimony or her cooperation, they probably, you know, looked the other way or at least gave her, you know, not a pardon. That's not it. But you know, the word, I'm the word. It doesn't matter. A deal? Yeah, they gave her a. Deal. Yeah, they gave her a deal. So you know what that is? I don't really care. And at the same time, like, I
don't know, like, who was it? It was Meredith. I think it was like, you know, they're talking about, you know, everyone's talking about who said what, but they're not saying anything about what, you know, Bronwyn did or didn't do. And it's just like, OK, that that old yarn. But Meredith, why are you so quick? Meredith seemed very quick to believe the things. And, you know, I don't know. And it's like, yeah, But you're like, by saying that, you're making it.
I mean, she did say, you know, it's probably worse than it actually is, But she seemed to want to shuffle it to Bronwyn and maybe away from her friend Lisa. Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. So. I mean, I think the speed at which everyone was very quick just to like, it has to be Lisa, Like I'm because last week, last week's episode where Bronwyn was suggesting to Todd that like, you know, I think it might be Lisa. Like you and I both were like that seems like a big stretch.
Right, because you're in a good place. But it's like if you're talking about when she made the case of when she's with Whitney, of when this thing, when we had our breakdown and then things started appearing about me and the press, you know, before the show even aired. I mean, we're still filming at this point. It seems a little suspect that you would think that, you know,
Lisa started the ball rolling. And even though they got to a good spot, Lisa wouldn't have known they were going to get to a good spot, right? Once you start the ball rolling, you can't control it. And it's like, even though I don't hate her like I used to, if you Lisa you still, it's too late. The cat's out of the bag. It's the same way on Orange County. Tamara has already showed those posts about Gretchen to people,
right? And even though technically they're supposed to be in a better place, the cat's already out of the bag. This train is. Leaving the state that come out, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely. It was just so funny that like the least, it was like you better not be talking about me and everyone's like no one's talking about you and even waiting to be like no one's talking about you, but you look
guilty as hell. Yeah, and why Whitney wants to chase her around the table and be like, you know, like I'm going to touch you. It's like what? What? I don't get that. But. You know, it's like I'm coming close. I'm coming close. There's almost like I'm not touching you, am I bothering you? I'm not touching you. Am I healing you? I mean, I just think when it comes down to it, if if one person says it quacks like a duck, I'm like, OK. Or Swan. Or so true in this case, the Swan.
Every single one of those women except Meredith. Even Meredith is to the point of just being like, well, it could. It could have been. I mean, there's no, you know. All I have to say is Heather's eyes that Lisa towards the end of like really it was just like just her eyes was like really you're going to do, you're going to sit there and say that I make
really like like two things. If Heather's making it up good for Heather, I'm not good for Heather, but good honor because she's being really convincing about it and she got everyone else. Like in a sense, like I do, I do feel like Lisa's the way Lisa's reacting, especially towards the end when she like goes calling John and everything. It's like she does seem like she's being gas lit a little bit. Like I'm sure there's an extent that she's not involved in something, but she's been
involved with everything else. Like I, I just don't know where she's drawing the line, but I felt a little bit bad for Lisa in that she was just react, but she's having a reaction. And I think, you know, especially the worst place to have a reaction like that is on a boat. Right. You can't go anywhere, you can't leave the boat. And you don't want to, like, start freaking out and like fall off the boat or have a boating accident. Was on the edge of that like
what was that? Like a a raft or I. Don't know the edge of the pad dingy. I was 100. Why are you so close to that and then when you know? The Whitney. Brittany. Yeah, Over. I was like, get away from her. Brittany, you're going to tackle her. Over. I mean, I have to say, like for women who say that they are, you know, listening to each other, like whenever someone says get away from me, I don't want to be around people don't touch me. Every single one of them just crosses that boundary.
Like, you sure. You sure? Yeah. Let me touch you now. It's like, I literally just told you do not touch me. Like it. I think that Whitney was OK where she was, like, I'm going to step near you like she was, but she didn't actually once or twice. Maybe she did, but she didn't just like, start touching her the minute someone said please don't touch me, you know? So yeah, Brittany, here's what she wants to hear. But hats off to Brittany for bringing up the for getting to
Meredith's face. Like. Bronwyn was really messy with that shit, but you know. Wait, so did we cover everything at the lunch before we move on to the? Well, I mean who knows the order of things. It all just got so messy. It was basically like Lisa freaking out. Then they went swimming. Angie got really sick throwing a lot of Angie barfing. Have you ever been seasick? No, thankfully. I've had altitude sickness,
which is not fun. And that was when I was travelling from Denver to Cheyenne, WY, to look at movie theaters. And that's probably the closest I've ever come to just like any sort of bodily, like just, you're sick for no reason and it is miserable because you're just dizzy and you're like, I can't figure out why. Like, like on a boat at least, OK, things are moving, but just your body starts to betray you in such a weird way. And you're just like, I, I'm you have no control.
It's just such a weird feeling. I ended up outside the library in Cheyenne, WY, like sitting in a rental car with the door open, just barfing into the gutter like every every few minutes. So it was really nasty. So I have, I have a lot of sympathy for for Angie and her. She just looks so miserable and just like clutching on to like that dude face and like, I'm gonna yeah. It's not a fun feeling.
No, it's not cool. So. So yeah, then they get into, well, then they, you know, pull understand, like what they hoped to gain by bringing Meredith into the conversation. As if this is a Meredith two seasons ago. OK, this is Meredith currently I'm on team Lisa. We are bonded together and.
Whatever, I think Heather made it kind of clear that like she thought that Meredith might come in and and say, and she did at that time say, you know, while she's being very neutral about it all, she was just saying that like, yeah, these things could be Lisa, but you know, I'm not going to believe that they are like. And I think Heather was hoping to sway her and say like, you know full well that this is her.
This is like consistent everything that she's done to you and to me and all of us. But my point is I don't understand like why Heather thought of the shoot could convince Meredith if anything because she's so close with Lisa now it just seemed and I'm I find it very interesting on the other hand that Meredith didn't run and tell Lisa that they were
gunning for her. See. Like, because Lisa was genuinely shocked when it came out like and she couldn't be faking that because she you know, and mirror was like, this is what was being said. And I'm surprised she didn't go running back before dinner and saying, look, just so you know, heads up, I'm your friend and I was not participating in this. And like own take ownership and take claim the narrative before you got brought in before you
get brought into whatever. Heather and Meredith wants Lisa to get caught, that's why. And that's why she didn't go do that. She's hoping that Heather can do it without her, and that's why Meredith left her out to dry. I don't think at the dinner, I think Meredith still needs Lisa. I don't want her. I don't think she wants her to get caught. But she also isn't going to save her ass. But she's going to make it very clear that she was not leading the right, you know?
Yeah. But she didn't, you know, She didn't stay to a point, like, you know, she didn't say that I was defending you, Lisa. She was saying like, oh, no, I told them that I didn't think it was you. But she didn't say that like, no, she said I told them I'd be disappointed if I found out it was you. So that is not saying I was defending you, right. So I mean, that's very much Meredith just being all like,
well, I don't know. And so, yeah, Meredith wants Lisa to get God, that's that's for sure. And again, I just think that all the eyes from Heather to Lisa and even to Meredith to a point where is just like, you know, like Heather knows Heather knows something that Lisa did and she's just not saying it. And they're trying not to break probably some unspoken pact or whatever. And it's in the vault, yes. But Britney and Meredith, that was worth it because. Why would Brittany confide in
Bronwyn? I thought. I guess maybe she thought like, oh, just like some harmless gossip until Bron was like, well. Well, I I thought it was hilarious that, you know, Brittanys changing the changing or in Bronwyn out there, the camera on are being like, like, yeah, just what the hell. Like why is she saying? That like you are miked. It's a camera crew. Yeah, and just it's shitty that Bronwyn was just so quickly like, da da da da da like, well.
She did it last year when she like dropped a dime on her I. Know, but like Bronwyn, I don't know, Like Bronwyn's so clumsy, just in general. She's just gawky about her her her demeanor in general, and then she can't even stir. By the way, yeah. She can't even stir the pot with any sort of believability and just she's just like, whoa, here we go. Here's the plot. Here's the bad shit she was saying about you. But I like that Britney didn't shy away from it.
I mean her, yeah, problematic to her use of the word seizure and kind of. It was, you know, yeah. It was like you just just say you freak out. You go from zero to 80. There's zero to 100. But the fact that Meredith was like, like people have seizures my including. My. Son. Yeah. So it was like, it was like, oh, it's as if Britney like was reading from the Meredith's Greatest Hits. What was it like? There are children starving like that, that whole yarn from three or four years ago.
With it was the Monica season, yeah. There's children starving. It's like. They're more important thing. Yeah, exactly. It's like, OK. And I mean, Britney was right. I mean, that's exactly what Meredith does, is she? She goes from zero to 60. And she was like, she is wackadoodle. Yeah. And. And it's it's not normal.
I mean, and if the fact of the matter is that Meredith, if that's her shtick and she's kind of like she uses that as a defense or like whatever, just kind of like get herself out of conversations, then she needs to reconsider it because it's, you know, they're all, they're all caught on to it. Exactly. I like that Brittany was standing up for herself a bit more. Yeah, saying like, this is what I said. And like when she said like, you just need to disengage, I was like, oh, OK. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I wish she would have called out Bronwyn on like, you know, oh, I thought we were, you know, not that I thought we were having a moment, but I thought that like, you know, this was just harmless, you know, gossip, gossip and that, you know, we were sharing our opinions about our friends and Co workers and that like, you know, I'm not gonna wasn't gonna turn around and say things that you said, but you know.
Well, I think Bronwyn's smart enough not to say anything bad about this woman in front of Brittany because she knows she can't hold water. Right, right, right. I did enjoy this entire time while they're eating that Angie and Mary were just downstairs chilling. I like, I don't understand Mary being as germaphobic as she is. The fact that like Angie was throwing up all over that room and she's like, let me eat my meal down here.
I just. Like I think Mary saw it as an opportunity to be like, I don't want to be upstairs with those crazy ladies. I want to enjoy a meal right? Even if his little barf in here. But also, you know, she didn't want to leave Angie by her. That was that was very sweet. I did love the like when the dinner was broad. She's like, where's the rest of it? Yeah. And then she but yeah, she's like, I hope they're really enjoying all this food and they show upstairs, no one's eating anything and.
I it was interesting, interesting how Heather just quickly got to we think you're the source of the dirt. It's like no pretense, like no Lube, just like. Just like putting it in right now. I really honestly think it's because they all know it. They've all probably as. Mary said. What did Mary say? She's. Like, yes, we all Oh yeah, we all know it all knows her. Yeah, and, and, and that they're just not going to beat around
the Bush anymore. And I, I honestly think it's because probably, I don't know, there was a part, I don't remember the specifics, but it was when Heather brought up the whole idea of Angie talking, you know, digging up dirt on Meredith, etcetera. It it seem as though Lisa had asked all of them to do that before. You're OK. That went down the wrong pipe. No, we need, we need the correct pipe to be gone down. That sounds a little dirty. Don't make you laugh.
I'm sorry. Oh sorry, it's just like last episode where I was lost my boyfriend. No more drinking. You got to stop drinking those glasses of vodka during our our podcast. You OK? Yeah, warm. I don't know. You'd be all right. Yes, yeah. Sorry, I I think it, I think because the same way that I think Lisa's asked everyone to
dig up dirt on everyone else. And so I think that Lisa's asked Heather to dig up dirt on someone in the in the group, probably Bronwyn. Yes, and Lisa has people and yes, because last year Heather was not in a good place with Bronwyn and so. That's why I think a lot of those glances back and forth were like, girl, you know what I'm talking about. Cuz we talked about it. We talked about like how we don't like Bronwyn and. Right, yeah. That's the SNL girl girl.
I was like. Girl. So I, I think that's has to be what's going on. I that makes sense now. I don't understand and maybe just cuz I don't, I'm not that dishonest of a person. I just don't understand like how Lisa could react that way other than I mean it has to be because she knows she's been caught. Like just deny, deny, deny. And like she knows like her, you know, she I just seems weird to me.
Like at that point, if everyone's there and you know it, like why kid a kidder at that point just be like, yeah, OK, I did it. Like she just seems like she's causing more drama for herself by continuing to deny it. And like, at the end of the day, like, I don't think the fans care one way or another. I don't think that the lady is really care one way or another. And I think that's what I think Heather's true. And this is how convoluted I
think it's all getting. And Heather's right when she says I'm being a friend to you right now by by calling you out on your shit. Like I know that this is the case. Like just stop denying it. Just address this head on with Bronwyn. Address this head on. Quit trying to like get behind all underneath all of us and just tell it to our faces. Right, If I didn't like you, I would just completely want to obliterate you, but I, I don't, I know it's you and I can't lie
for you. I can't, you know, disregard it or sleep it under the rug. And so I want to, we all want to move forward and like be cool and be friends, right? And so that's why I'm bringing this to your attention and
saying it to your face. The thing is with me and actually goes with what Meredith said, I I totally believe this could be Lisa. They don't have enough proof to show that it is Lisa. So until you do break the 4th wall, until Heather does say, well, we da da da, it's just, it's just, you know, causation without correlation. Causation is not equal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A correlation is not equal causation. Yeah, yeah. There's just, you know, it's, it's circumstantial evidence. Right.
But it's also that same thing where, like, I don't know, Heather could probably say how she knows and it will make Lisa look even worse, right? Versus Lisa just saying that it's happening and then it Lisa looks better. Because really, Heather got very upset when she thought that Lisa was accusing her of being a bad friend. And I think as a viewer, you're like, while you're calling her, you know, right, a dirt stir, a plot store and a dirt digger.
But it's like, you're right. There's so many more things she probably could say, and she's protecting her with that. And yeah. Yeah, and who knows, maybe Heather knows some things that are out there about Lisa and then, you know, besides the lawsuits and she's just like you keep on this path, someones gonna say something about you and then right Like you don't want any of that to happen.
Not that, you know, Heather would be the one to say it, but you know, you keep pooking at Bronwyn and then Bronwyn has Todd. I mean, they're not going to sit back and relax and be like, OK, whatever. They're going to start fighting back at some point, so. You know Todd will get make it really ugly or else or Todd will be like, see, you shouldn't have come back to the show, right? Like it's your own fault. Right, right. Yeah, that's probably what he would say.
That's. Probably you know and. If he didn't, her mother would, I'm sure. God, that probably, you know, the reason is why she didn't come on the the the fight with them is that she and Tom are probably still fighting about the whole thing. And he was saying like, what are you effing doing? You don't need the money. Like you're totally fine. You don't. Why are you looking for like this fame and this what are you trying to get from the show?
Because now it's harming me because now this shit that's coming up about you is like being thrown at me now. And that's he was probably much more pissed off camera than what we saw in that one scene where he's like, what are you doing right? Why would you go on this trip? So. Yeah, and that's probably, I mean, the, the specificity of like the, the things that were leaked about her seemed like they would have to come from someone who knows, you know, what they're talking about.
And it's probably Todd trying to get her off the show. That would be the biggest. Like that would be like better than reality on Tees. I know like if it was really Todd doing all this. At the reunion, he's like twirling his mustache. If someone finds out it is Todd and he or he's just like, look, it was me. Yeah, I just don't want you on the show. He eats her cherry bitch. Oh. So what twist? Yeah, I mean, it was a great episode. I, we, I, I would go watch it
again. I feel like there's so much. Things I missed because there was just so much going on and like, even in the fight with like Heather and Lisa, I was like, what are you saying, 'cause she's like one minute she's like, fuck, screw you Heather. And then just like crying to John Barlow. I'm like, that's some whiplash of emotion.
Yeah, I mean, again, there's part of me that like, again, it just feels like Lisa's being gas lit a little bit because for her to react, she seemed very confused, like as to what? But it can also be she's just confused as to what to do next. Like I just don't know how to handle this now that like I if I you know. Called out directly.
Right. She's like, I wasn't expecting this, so I need to regroup and I'm regroup by calling John and, you know, complaining to him and and, you know, figuring it out from here. So I don't know, it just seems like I don't like people cornered. That's really disturbing to. Watch, it is like seeing her flip out and like at the table and then run downstairs and I don't touch me and then like being on her own on that little like, yeah, bad thing. It was just like.
Yeah, I mean, I like the Whitney going down below deck and like, getting a tour from everyone, Brittany and her thirst for, you know, Captain Jason or whatever. Look, I think he's yes, a good looking man, but like everyone's just like tripping over their Dicks to like get Tim. Yeah, like fans included. Like I remember like Bravo Con, I was like, Oh my God, he's the second coming. And I'm like, he's an attractive
man, but I mean. Well, it's the same way, you know, you put any, you know, any of the old original New York OG's in front of any man. They're just like, Oh my God, the same way like, you know, they put all the, the men, the crew of the boat, like, just like, Oh my God, you're so muscular. Like, no, he's wearing a compression shirt. Exactly. I'm sure he's got more muscles than me. But at the same time, it's not like he's just taking off his shirt and like filming softcore porn on a boat.
I mean, come on. It wasn't. Yeah, like you know that Thunder from Dad under? Yeah, he's. Just like normal looking dudes who like have some muscle to them. Yeah, dude with hair I would look like crazy like. The floppy, goofy hair it. Wasn't even floppy, it was like it was very hairsprayed in place. Oh, I don't know that I noticed. It was the British guy who like Britney's like, Oh yeah. Which is like, I develop, I sell, I develop, I sell. He was like, Brittany bought. Broken. It's also.
Weird to hear her call herself a developer like that. Seems like a really weird thing she's. An agent, right? She was an agent and now she's the developer. Yeah, it sounded like she was trying to make herself sound a little more. You building houses, girl? Oh my God. The Jared Unicorn We and then also the cucumber. What was the cucumber that was with bag right? Like no one's going to bring this isn't 1945. No one's using a cucumber as a dildo are. They. I hope not.
I don't know why. Any other things you can get like on Amazon but? Why would you bring a cucumber on an international trip? Or you know, it seems it seems weird. You would think that like if they were saying like, oh, if it's for like, you know, beauty treatments, you can get that on a boat. I'm sure there's plenty of it was just who would do that except just to be funny, right? But really, because, you know, they would, they couldn't show a a dildo.
They'd have to like blur that out, but a cucumber they could they play. That was totally intentional. No one would like no one's. But that was Whitney's bag, 'cause she's like the that's my bag with my valuables in it. Oh, she. Was being funny that she was totally being funny, 'cause Jason and she and Jason and Heather are friends? That was, yeah. That was funny that Heather was like, Oh no, we totally screwed around. And like, she's like, did I actually say that? Like delete.
Yeah, delete, delete. I mean, she did seem like a very casual, It did seem like a very casual slip up, but also the same time it could be very innocent like. I mean they like made out of bravo right? Or something. Remember right, I believe that so they all looked amazing. I have to say like very much so. I thought it felt bad for Andrew. She's like I I'm feeling so sick. I can't even suck in my gut. It was just like, oh, poor Ange, you're. Not you're not big Ashy.
But but Heather looked amazing. I mean, for someone who, you know, had, you know, been a, a larger lady, you know, and, and had some feelings on the matter, she looked amazing. And what I liked about all of them is that like they didn't have a perfect body, but they were still just out there having a good time. Like in a way that in a way when I see myself like in photos with just, you know, my, my natural tummy out there, like at the beach or at the pool, I'm just
like, I'd rather not see that. But you know. You know that whatever we have to talk about, what's that, you know? I don't know what you're talking about. Yes, Heather looked great, but her weave, her weave. I know she They've been out swinging the water and it dried funny, but I. Thought you would start talking crap about me and I was like how dare you, it's my birthday soon. No, Heather's real hair ended
here at her neck. You can see it in the behind shot because her camera's all over the boat. Her weave came down to like her waist. I just need to know how long her actual hair is because it was just so weird to be like wait, wait, why does your hair stop like as above, but like your weave is down past your boobs. I don't know what's going on. It was bad, it was scraggly. It needed to be in a ponytail as.
I say would you prefer like, not that you're a hair stylist by any means, but would you suggest that if they're going to go on trips, like where they're going to be swimming or their hair gets wet, they just have their weave removed before they go? No, I think you just need a swim cap perhaps. Or you just need to like, slap a wig on when you go to dinner. Or do like marry and just don't get in the water. A head scarf, a head scarf will be perfect. You're on vacation. It's an island.
Put on a headscarf like you're. It just really bugged me because we got so many behind shots with her because she was like falling, I'm falling after you. I'm falling like Lisa, I'm falling. And all I could see, all I could see was just that, that the the blending wasn't blending and. We're going to have to do an episode where you just pick you just go through everyone's bad weaves like from from last couple seasons forward your favorite like your watch what
happens 5 of bad weeks. Basically watch what? Watch what Husband's Housewives 50. My God. Jeff's favorite bad weaves. So much to choose from. Something I think we got through everyone. I mean, there was so much stuff. I I just want Lisa to own up to it if she's involved. Just quit bullshitting bullshitters. Yes, like it's it's season what, 6 now 6 Like, OK, it's been years we've been accused. You've been getting accused of doing all the things 7. Or seven?
No, no, it's 6/6. We'll find out later. Yeah, but it's been years you've been getting accused of this shit, just like if you've been doing it like at this point, just own up to it and find new tactics. She never will. Like she just is not going to accept responsibility and culpability and yeah.
At the same time, I'm going to feel really, really stupid if this is all something that Heather's manufacturing, because it's not like we don't know better about Heather like Heather. Made whole black eye thing, Yeah, yeah, you could say. Like why are we trusting Heather's word? The fact that every other housewife, including Mary, is just all like, I mean, come on, for real. Mary was really like, yes, you do it, Heather, like we all feel this way.
They've had many conversation about Lisa Digny up dirt and for her to like run off and be like, I've never did anything to any of them girl. I mean, unless, unless she's going to do this whole like it's self-defense because they did it to me first. That's the only reason I fought back. It's like. No, it's not true. Because like this. Well, yeah, yeah. No, it's not. This is the really the one big thing. It's something that the lawsuits were out there.
They were in like national newspapers. So it wasn't Brittany who mouth 4 lawsuits? Yes. The reaction shots and comments like middle side comments can be so funny. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the the shade is good with them. I really am enjoying it. But yeah, it's a good episode. I'm glad they gave us some scenes from next week. I know I was trying to see if
everyone was in them. Lisa was there because it's the scene where Meredith is talking with Mary and Mary is like, you're bad friend and you're boring. Yeah, at least there's just. They're like, oh, do. You think Angie gets on her feet? I didn't see much of Angie in those scenes so. I hope so. All I could focus is on like, the bloody dinner. The what? The bloody dinner where they're all like, oh.
Yeah, it's also weird good timing, like it's Halloween soon for us, so it's like it's good timing. I think they knew that, but maybe they're just awful weak. But you know, who knows? It's good when Meredith throws the axe out in her. Head or whatever action. So good. They just know. I mean, they do camp well on the show. They do. It's. So campy. It's the campy show on Bravo. It's good. Well, anything else we want to cover? I think that's it.
All right, so we'll cover the rest of it next time. Well, next time.