Hey guys, it's Jessica! And today, we're following up on the awkward situation from last week, because the best way to clear things up is to talk about it!! As you can see, good communication is pretty important to us, but last week, some things kind of got lost in translation. If you remember, we discussed some pretty heavy subjects, talked about boundaries, and about my marriage with Matt and our different ways of showing love. This led to a pretty awkward situation where Matt kept thinking th...
Apr 21, 2021•44 min•Ep. 99
Hi guys, it's Jessica! And in this week's episode, Matt, Steve, and I discuss the importance of setting boundaries! Or at least, we try to... But first, we start with a little catch up! I got my first COVID vaccine (YAY!), we talk about the time Matt had the flu in the beginning of our marriage (fun times), and Steve talks about his Zoom issues (he keeps having Zoom-related incidents and it’s getting out of hand!). Then we go on to discuss this week's subject: Boundaries. Specifically, the ones ...
Apr 14, 2021•34 min•Ep. 98
Hi guys, Jessica here! Following on from last week's episode, Matt, Steve, and I continue our conversation about the church’s stance on LGBTQ people. But first, Matt starts by reading some of the reviews you're leaving us. We love hearing your feedback, it keeps us going, and truly helps us remember why we decided to share our story in the first place. We go on to discuss the responses we got after dropping last week's episode. To be honest, it was all a bit of a doozy! Some comments were great,...
Apr 07, 2021•43 min•Ep. 97
Hi there, it’s Jessica! And this week, Steve, Matt, and I discuss a topic we hold close to our heart: the church’s stance on LGBTQ people. But first, a little update! We start with welcoming Steve, who is back with us now after his COVID mishap, and he is healthier than ever! Hooray to that! We then go on to talk about the most fun subject you can discuss with your friends: funerals! And this is when we find out that Steve wants to be cremated when he dies, because who wants to spend eternity in...
Mar 31, 2021•58 min•Ep. 96
Hi there, it’s Jessica! In this week’s episode, Steve, Matt and I discuss our lives with our children, the ups and downs, and what we hope they know! We start with me (yay!) telling a story about Penny’s latest visit to the doctor. Always dreadful for a child, isn’t it? Steve and I also discuss Penny’s slight phone addiction (she’s really into playing Among Us these days) and how we’re trying to minimize her screen time! Matt jumps in on the conversation and we all discuss the many ways we’re tr...
Mar 24, 2021•51 min•Ep. 95
This week’s episode starts with Matt talking about his latest trip to Moab, which prompts Steve to discuss his and Jessica’s first trip to Moab, back when they had just gotten married, and tells all about their adventures there. Matt also touches on the change of dynamic with his ex-wife. He discusses their latest court hearing and its effect on their relationship. He goes on to talk about how he had to learn to set up hard boundaries, not only for his own sake, but for the sake of their kids as...
Mar 17, 2021•58 min•Ep. 94
In this week’s episode, Steve and Jessica discuss how they moved on after the end of their marriage and how different the process was for each of them. They also talk about how they had to take time for themselves to emotionally heal first before they were able to become friends and navigate and nurture their new relationship. They share how their divorce journey was different, and Steve discusses the difficult things he went through after the separation. Finally, Matt expresses how different hi...
Mar 10, 2021•45 min•Ep. 93
This month is Jessica’s birthday month, and as always, she’s making it worth her while! So get ready, because in this week’s solo episode, you’ll learn all about Jessica’s birthday month traditions, how they started, and why she's not giving up on them any time soon. But that’s not the only thing she discusses in today’s episode! Jessica also shares how she created a life she loved after her divorce, even when she felt like everything was working against her. From teaching you how to show up for...
Mar 03, 2021•32 min•Ep. 92
Picking up from last week’s episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica talk about the end of Steve and Tommy’s relationship. It was one of Steve’s longest relationships and definitely not an easy breakup for him. They talk about the catalyst for the dissolution of that relationship and trying to hold it together for Pride weekend. Steve shares how he felt after it all ended and whether he got any closure at the end. They also touch on Penny’s feelings during it all and how it taught her the lesson of imp...
Feb 24, 2021•39 min•Ep. 91
This week, Steve, Matt, and Jessica discuss Penny's baptism and the emotions surrounding this event in her life. Jessica and Steve weren't sure what Penny's involvement in the church would look like. With Steve choosing to leave the church when Penny was a baby, they both agreed to let her decide how active she would be in an effort not to sway her in any direction. When Penny chose to be baptized, she was wholly supported, but it brought some emotions and tensions. Steve was reminded that he wo...
Feb 17, 2021•49 min•Ep. 90
Dating after divorce can be tough. In this episode, Matt, Steve, and Jessica talk about Steve’s longest relationship since his marriage. Steve shares how he met Tommy and reveals why their relationship wasn’t the best fit. The pair got along very well, but Steve started to realize that their lifestyles just weren’t compatible. As a single parent, Steve’s schedule is often hectic and filled with activities, and his partnership with Tommy seemed to suffer due to the demands of life. He discusses t...
Feb 10, 2021•42 min•Ep. 89
This week's episode is a little different. Jessica is on the mic sharing her thoughts on how leaders can inadvertently lead us to feel shame. Recently, Jessica was working on a weekly bible study and was taken aback by the lesson's message. Instead of uplifting her, it had the opposite effect and reinforced some of the negative ideals we put on women. In so many ways, women are fighting an uphill battle when it comes to issues of equality. Today, Jessica discusses her perspective on some of the ...
Feb 03, 2021•46 min•Ep. 88
First, they talk about the impact the reviews have on their lives. They are thankful for the feedback and support of the show. Jessica spends some time reflecting on moments with Penny, and why it’s important to soak in the everyday moments, we spend with our families. Matt shares what unfolded after the court situation and talks about the new custody arrangement with the kids. They all talk about how they’ve coped with that timeline events and where they are now in their relationship with Ann. ...
Jan 27, 2021•37 min•Ep. 87
Matt, Jessica, and Steve discuss how they make it through the rough times and offer some tips that may help you! But first, they spend some time talking about going “viral” on Instagram, reminisce on some of their “first time” experiences, and finally recap this most recent holiday season. If you’ve been listening to the past few episodes, then you know they’ve been covering Matt’s custody issues with his kids. Those experiences have caused an immense amount of stress and have certainly been a c...
Jan 20, 2021•41 min•Ep. 86
This week, we welcome back Steve to the podcast. He was out last week on a trip to Arizona. He shares his new year’s intentions and discusses his training schedule for his upcoming ultra marathon. Matt and Jessica describe what led to Matt’s kids getting a psychiatric evaluation. They talk about what life was like during this time. They tell the stress it put on the entire family and how Matt dealt with his parenting being scrutinized. At the end of the day, the best we can do is stick to our tr...
Jan 13, 2021•47 min•Ep. 85
Happy new year, everyone! We are so thankful to start off 2021 with you all and looking forward to the great things to come. This week, Matt and Jessica discuss goals vs. intentions and how to be successful in setting goals. Many of us start the year with our hopes for what we want to change and accomplish. Matt and Jessica share their goals for the upcoming twelve months and the energy they’ll be bringing into it. They also cover the differences between goals and intentions and how to implement...
Jan 06, 2021•29 min•Ep. 84
This week, Jessica shares her live lesson on creating Bold Boundaries in your life and relationships. Maybe you feel like you've lost a part of who you are or are looking to create change in your life but not sure where to start. Or you've been struggling to show up to your life or relationships in a way that feels authentic to who you are. You let other people's opinions determine how you act or what you do, and you want to create more joy in your life. If you are feeling any of those things, t...
Dec 30, 2020•52 min•Ep. 83
This week, Matt, Steve, and Jessica keep things light and answer some questions you guys may have had from previous episodes. They share what it’s like to put personal details about their life out in the open and revisit the conversation from last week. Matt describes Jack’s perspective on his custody issues with Ann. Jessica tells the parameters they’ve implemented in their interactions with Ann and how she and Matt struggled during this time in their relationship. Jessica needed Matt to know h...
Dec 23, 2020•39 min•Ep. 82
This week, Steve, Jessica, and Matt discuss more of the issues they faced navigating Ann's custody arrangement. It seems the constant lesson to be learned through this season of Matt and Jessica's life is boundary setting. In this episode, Matt and Jessica are back into a routine with the kids but continually deal with the stress of having Ann's frequent interference. Jessica is accused of withholding food from the kids, leaving her hurt and frustrated. She struggles with determining where she s...
Dec 16, 2020•45 min•Ep. 81
This week, Matt, Jessica, and Steve pick up where they left off last week on their story about Ann’s restraining order against Matt. During the whole custody fiasco, Matt got a knock on the door from the police. Ann had accused Matt of domestic violence and requested to have a restraining order put on him. This resulted in an incredibly tumultuous several weeks for the entire family as they went back and forth, trying to handle the situation best. Tune into this week’s episode to hear how it aff...
Dec 09, 2020•46 min•Ep. 80
Jessica, Matt, and Steve are back from their break to talk about that cliffhanger they left you on! If you’ve been following along with their timeline, then you know tensions are high between Matt’s ex-wife Ann and him. Today, they’re discussing the incident that ended with the cops intervening and Matt ending the day with charges pressed against him. Tune in as they tell the whole story, what Matt had to do to protect his family, pursue his own healing, and learn from the whole situation! Highl...
Dec 02, 2020•51 min•Ep. 79
We’ll be back for a regular episode next week but in the meantime, we wanted to pop in and give you an exclusive opportunity to join us in one of our favorite holiday traditions! Jessica is making “little dudes” for the shop this year. They are gnomes that we have been gifting throughout our family for the last decade and we thought it would be a great idea to bring you in on the fun! Listen to this short episode for the story behind our little gnomes and details for ordering one for your new fa...
Nov 25, 2020•7 min•Ep. 78
Life has been pretty stressful and hectic recently, so Matt, Steve, and Jessica decided to do some boundary setting and take a break for the next two weeks. Matt’s business keeps him and Steve very busy, and Jessica has been in quarantine as she recovers from COVID. They thought it’d be best to take a little break and reenergize themselves so they can bring their best selves back on December 2nd for the next episode. In the meantime, tune in for details on Jessica’s upcoming lessons and have a v...
Nov 18, 2020•12 min•Ep. 77
Matt and Jessica thought that buying a home would be an opportunity for a fresh and positive start. What ended up happening was Ann coming after Matt for more child support because in her mind it wasn’t fair that he was able to take that next step. This led Matt and Jessica needing to get really clear on their boundaries as they navigated the storm to come. They struggled to agree on custody terms as well as what school the kids should go to. Because of the custody arrangement, the kids had a he...
Nov 11, 2020•45 min•Ep. 76
Don’t give your time to people who make you cry on the playground. This week we are tackling the importance of setting boundaries! Steve talks about quitting his job and his new career working with Matt’s company, Ship Zoom. They all muse on this new and exciting dynamic, and Matt explains his initial hesitation with bringing Steve on the team. Jessica talks about her upcoming training on setting boundaries. She tells a story when a close friend confronted her to tell her she should leave her ma...
Nov 04, 2020•41 min•Ep. 75
This week, Matt, Steve, and Jessica discuss some of the trials that can come up with co-parenting. Matt and Jessica share their experience helping Ann move out and get an apartment for herself and the kids. They describe their hopes that showing support would help strengthen their relationship with her. And for a while, it did until miscommunication got in the way and disrupted the progress they were making. Jessica explains the catalyst of that divide, and the three of them talk about trying to...
Oct 28, 2020•44 min•Ep. 74
In this episode, Steve, Matt, and Jessica talk about how Steve and Sebastien decided to get back together and give their relationship another try. Steve could never quite get over Sebastien after they first broke up. He struggled to date anyone else for three years as his heart still very much belonged to him. The second time around, it became incredibly clear that they just weren’t the right match. Steve reveals some of the issues in the relationship and the growth he endured during that time. ...
Oct 21, 2020•44 min•Ep. 73
This week, Matt, Steve, and Jessica go over the timeline of Jessica and Ann’s relationship. The beginning of their relationship was pretty promising, and they got along quite well. Jessica discusses what she did to keep the relationship positive and as happy as possible. She explains what it was like to let her guard down around Ann and their growing relationship. They also cover the moment the relationship began to dissolve and what the aftermath of that has been like. The three offer an opinio...
Oct 14, 2020•41 min•Ep. 72
This week, Matt, Steve, and Jessica discuss Matt and Jessica buying a home together, and Matt and Jessica’s dinner with Jack and Ann. Buying a home was a pivotal moment in Jessica and Matt’s relationship. They struggled a lot during the early years of their marriage and questioned whether they would even stay together. The home signaled a unifying moment between them that they were hopeful of sticking together and acted as a commitment to working together. One of the issues they tackled was deal...
Oct 07, 2020•47 min•Ep. 71
You might remember Jessica, Matt, and Steve discussing this in previous episodes. It's the meeting Steve had with the bishopric council to decide how he moved forward in his relationship with the church and Jessica. At this point, he still had hope that they could be together as he was unwilling to accept himself fully. A disciplinary council meeting is conducted when a church member has sinned in a way that the church feels they need to be sat in front of a council of priesthood holders. The go...
Sep 30, 2020•47 min•Ep. 70
