Husband in Law

Welcome to Husband In Law! We’re Jessica, Matt, and Steve, and we’re here to share our unconventional journey through love, marriage, divorce, coming out, and remarriage. Together, we’ve built a unique and harmonious co-parenting relationship that challenges societal and religious norms, proving that self-love, acceptance, and kindness can transform even the hardest situations.

In this podcast, we’ll dive into honest conversations about relationships, family, and personal growth. We’ll tackle tough topics with humor, vulnerability, and hope, sharing what we’ve learned along the way. If you’re ready to embrace love and acceptance in your own life, we’re here to inspire you. Let’s rewrite the rules together!

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Episodes

08: Eight Months Pregnant

In this episode, Matt will talk about his first marriage and life after his mission to Guatemala. He will talk about his college experiences and dive into how he met an eight months pregnant woman, started dating her, stood by her even during her delivery, and ended up marrying her. It’s a super interesting story. Enjoy it. Highlights of the discussion: Focusing on Matt (02:37) Deciding not to complete college (06:06) Text messaging during church (09:03) The baby daddy issue (14:11) Changing the...

Jul 24, 2019•39 min•Ep. 8

07: Packing Up & Moving To Belize

In this episode, Jessica and Steve will talk about the cool experience they had when they moved to Belize after Steve was offered a job as an operations manager in a beachfront resort in San Pedro. They didn’t love their jobs that much at the time, and they had been trying to get a baby with no success, so when the resort job came up, they just decided to pack up and leave for Belize. They will talk about the good, the bad, and the outright amazing moments they had living and working in Belize. ...

Jul 17, 2019•50 min•Ep. 7

06: Denial At It's Best

In this episode, Jessica, and Steve will talk about their first year of marriage, having a blast in college and actually completing college debt free because they were doing so well for themselves. Jessica will then share the story of how she came upon Steve’s gay porn on the computer while he was away at work. Back then, Steve hadn’t yet come to terms with the fact that he was gay, and he was devastated by Jessica’s discovery. They will share all that transpired after that and it’s going to be ...

Jul 10, 2019•43 min•Ep. 6

05: Gay Pride

In this episode, Matt, Jessica, and Steve will talk about the Boise Gay Pride Festival and what their experiences were. Steve will dive into being deeply involved in organizing the different pride festivals that have been held in the past and all the challenges they go through. The three of them, with Steve’s guidance, will then demystify the societal misconceptions about so much relating to the LGBTQ Plus community, and talk about how amazing gay pride events really are. Highlights of the discu...

Jul 03, 2019•46 min•Ep. 5

04: Sliquid Nitrogen?

In this episode, Stephanie May (we mentioned her in the last episode. Remember?) comes on to talk about how she introduced Steve and Jessica to each other. Steph will ask Steve and Jessica a range of questions just to get a better understanding of what really happened that led to their eventual divorce. It’s gonna be a hilarious one. You won’t wanna miss it. Highlights of the discussion: The third wheel on the first date (01:03) The cupcake fight (03:48) Jessica’s dates with other people post da...

Jun 26, 2019•45 min•Ep. 4

03: Cat Shoes And A Cake Fight

So, how did Steve and Jessica even meet in the first place?! In this episode, Steve and Jessica will dive into how they met and how their relationship developed - ultimately leading to their marriage. Through deliberate effort by Steve (he was admittedly intrigued by Jessica), they met back in college and the story of how they got to the point where they got married and honeymooned in Victor, Idaho, is both funny and amazing, so you won’t wanna miss it. Curious about the cat shoes?! You'll need ...

Jun 19, 2019•41 min•Ep. 3

02: Before The Relationsh*t

In this episode, Steve, Jessica and Matt will introduce themselves and each of them will give their back history. They will talk about their childhoods, the things that really impacted them in a big way as they were growing up, and what makes them tick. They’re going to share their great co-parenting experiences and how they relate cordially amongst themselves. Highlights of the discussion: All about Jessica (01:19) Biggest lifelong impact growing up (04:36) Steve and his experiences growing up ...

Jun 12, 2019•41 min•Ep. 2

01: Oklahoma

This was the time of the most turmoil and stress in Jessica and Steve's marriage. It was the breaking point. Steve had an affair with a man in hopes that it would shut down the gay side of himself, but the reality was quite the opposite. As with everything in their relationship, they put everything out on the table and discussed how they could move on from this. The problem was, neither of them knew how it was possible and they walked around for weeks like emotional zombies. This all came to a h...

Jun 05, 2019•42 min•Ep. 1

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