How do you lead product when your CEO is the product visionary? Pendo's Chief Product Officer Trisha Price reveals the delicate dance of setting boundaries with founder-CEOs, the evolution of HR from gatekeeper to strategic partner, and why she uses AI to write letters to her 102-year-old grandmother. A candid conversation about power, trust, and the changing face of tech leadership. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] For coaching and advising inqu...
Nov 07, 2024•44 min
On Election Day 2024, Nolan and Kelli examine how to navigate an increasingly polarized workplace during a contentious election. They discuss the decline of 'presidential' discourse, the impact of social media on political rhetoric, and practical strategies for business leaders managing divided teams. Their candid conversation offers insights on maintaining professionalism and unity when half the country faces inevitable disappointment. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: h...
Nov 05, 2024•18 min
Former Dashlane HR leader Ciara Lakhani shares her unfiltered journey from New York to Paris tech, debunking myths about French business culture while revealing the art of cross-cultural leadership. From smoke breaks with works councils to earning trust through authenticity, Ciara offers practical wisdom on navigating international business dynamics and building bridges between American and French work cultures. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] F...
Oct 31, 2024•34 min
In this segment of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan discuss "empty suit executives" – a term coined by product leader Tyler Hogge, highlighting executives who manage from above but scoff at doing the work themselves. Is the era of the status-seeking executive dead? Explore how AI, increased competition, and evolving workplace culture are killing the 'empty suit' leader. From Silicon Valley's trenches to corporate boardrooms, discover why authenticity is replacing authority, and why rolling up your s...
Oct 29, 2024•15 min
In this episode, Nolan and Kelli talks with Silicon Valley prodigy turned seasoned operator and former Google director Jared Fliesler. From revolutionizing feedback systems to challenging the "founder mode" hype, Jared shares raw insights from his journey as Silicon Valley's youngest executive. But that's just the beginning – he also unveils the psychological trap keeping high achievers perpetually unfulfilled (hint: it's not what you think), and shares the counterintuitive secret to genuine sat...
Oct 24, 2024•50 min
In this candid episode of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into workplace burnout and share vulnerable insights on maintaining resilience in high-pressure roles. From conquering impostor syndrome to escaping the corporate echo chamber, they offer practical strategies—like daily routines, nature walks, and building authentic relationships—while reminding leaders that it's okay not to have all the answers. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR ...
Oct 22, 2024•20 min
Peter Walker, Head of Insights at Carta, joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich for a round 2 discussion to talk about the hidden currents reshaping the startup world. From the brutal reality of today's hiring landscape to the unexpected reasons top companies avoid IPOs, Walker challenges conventional wisdom, exploring how the "Big Stay" phenomenon and emerging equity models are redefining employee-company relationships. With startling data on fund performance and company shutdowns, this convers...
Oct 17, 2024•45 min
In a world where AI blurs the line between genuine skill and digital deception, HR professionals face an ethical minefield. As candidates leverage AI to cheat interviews and fake applicants infiltrate tech companies, the very fabric of recruitment is being tested. Kelli and Nolan explore the unsettling convergence of technology and human ambition, challenging us to redefine trust, authenticity, and competence in the modern workplace. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrhe...
Oct 16, 2024•17 min
Seasoned executive recruiter and venture capitalist Andy Price joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich for an inside-the-room look at the intricate dance of hiring, retaining, and evolving top-tier talent. Andy has assembled leadership teams for companies like Snowflake, DocuSign, Confluent, Amplitude, and ServiceNow. From the critical role of empathy in leadership transitions to the long-term value of investing in talent development, Price's insights challenge listeners preconcieved notions abou...
Oct 10, 2024•53 min
As tech giants like Microsoft dismantle DEI teams, this segment probes the industry's true commitment to diversity. Are we witnessing the death of corporate DEI or its evolution? Kelli and Nolan dissect the disconnect between lofty promises and marginal progress, questioning whether current approaches are effective, and challenge listeners to envision a "Chapter Two" for DEI—one that prioritizes authentic inclusion over mere metrics. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrhe...
Oct 09, 2024•17 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, dive into the world of HashiCorp's HR innovation with Christine Centa, as she unveils the challenges of scaling a remote-first culture, navigating post-IPO transitions, and embracing AI in recruiting. Discover with Kelli, Nolan and Christine how transparency, data-driven decisions, and a willingness to swear occasionally are reshaping modern tech workplaces. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast...
Oct 03, 2024•44 min
This HR Heretics segment dives headfirst into the controversy surrounding Mr. Beast's leaked 36-page employee manual. Join Kelli, Nolan and friend of the podcast, Colleen McCreary, as as they unpack this viral document that's part survival guide, part corporate manifesto, with a dash of unapologetic ambition. Is it a brilliantly authentic approach to leadership or a recipe for workplace burnout? *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a p...
Oct 01, 2024•22 min
This episode of HR Heretics dives into the treacherous waters of giving feedback to friends without capsizing relationships. Candid feedback or comfortable silence? Kelli and Nolan dissect the art of critiquing colleagues, challenging listeners to reconsider their approach to workplace honesty. Discover why your ego might be your own worst enemy, and learn how to transform awkward conversations into opportunities for growth. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrheretics@tu...
Sep 26, 2024•18 min
Amazon CEO Andy Jassy announces return to office policy, sparking debate on workplace culture and employee expectations in tech industry. Will Amazon's RTO policy lead to increased employee turnover and a decline in morale? Listen as Kelli and Nolan explore the implications of these changes on workplace culture, employee expectations, and the broader business landscape. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine. --...
Sep 24, 2024•16 min
Thinking of swiping right on a colleague? Find out with Kelli and Nolan if workplace romance is worth the potential awkward elevator rides and why mixing power and passion is a recipe for corporate disaster. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine. -- Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven insights to develop acc...
Sep 19, 2024•22 min
You've got your daily team, the folks you work with every day, but then there's the executive squad. Patrick Lencioni’s "Five Dysfunctions of a Team" says that should be your true loyalty, but how does that translate into practice? Nolan and Kelli talk about navigating those tricky waters and avoiding toxic team vibes when the big boss throws down some tough choices. Explore how HR pros can keep things from blowing up when the executive team calls the shots. *Email us your questions or topics fo...
Sep 17, 2024•19 min
Is context switching hurting your HR productivity? Kelli and Nolan talk about how leaders effectively navigate multiple roles and explore practical techniques for maximizing productivity in HR to build an adaptable team. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven insights to ...
Sep 12, 2024•18 min
US white-collar promotions are down 24% in Q1 2024, with a near 50% drop since 2022. What does this mean for employees and the job market? Kelli and Nolan discuss causes, including pandemic effects and company restructuring, and talk about strategies for retention and career growth in a restructured, doer-focused workplaces. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers ...
Sep 10, 2024•17 min
Guissu Baier , a talent expert at General Catalyst who navigated the treacherous waters of startup equity compensation at Instacart, joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich challenging conventional wisdom about refresh grants, and revealing that most companies lack a clear strategy. Is it time to ditch the old-school "wait and see" approach and embrace a more performance-driven model? Listen to Guissu, Kelli and Nolan as they offer insights into how to bridge the gap and foster collaboration betw...
Sep 06, 2024•48 min
Today Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich talk about ‘Founder Mode’ a concept coined by YC founder Paul Graham in a recent essay — based on a talk by Brian Chesky, founder of Airbnb. They discuss how founders feel gaslit by advice to delegate without micromanaging, and that the right approach IS a ruthlessly hands-on approach. The hosts explore the tension founders face between maintaining control and trusting hires, emphasizing the need for empathy. This is a sign that the paradigm is shifting, an...
Sep 05, 2024•22 min
Dr. Vijay Pendakur, DEI expert, author, and principal and founder of Vijay Pendakur Consulting , joins Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich to discuss the current pushback against DEI, the future of the movement, and how companies can find success in a shifting landscape. How can companies foster inclusion while avoiding divisiveness and proving business value? Vijay, Kelli and Nolan candidly discuss the future of corporate diversity initiatives amid pushback and the search for measurable ROI, and e...
Aug 29, 2024•59 min
Today Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich tackle knowing when it's time to leave a job -- considering factors such as energy levels, learning opportunities, and impact. They cover the art of giving notice, protecting your financial interests, and nurturing professional connections when moving to a new opportunity. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers teams just lik...
Aug 27, 2024•23 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church sits down with Valentina Gissin , former Head of Talent at Bridgewater and current Chief People Officer at Garner. Valentina shares the lasting lessons and people practices from working under Ray Dalio at Bridgewater, Garner's unique approach to the interview process, and her approach to hybrid work, manager training, L&D, and performance reviews. Valentina offers an absolute masterclass in innovating hiring and people strategies. *Email us your q...
Aug 22, 2024•47 min
In this HR Heretics segment, Nolan and Kelli talk about "back channels" in the hiring process. They dive deep into this controversial practice and how back channels can impact candidate selection, emphasizing the need for a thoughtful, mature approach that considers the full context of a candidate's experience and potential. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers ...
Aug 20, 2024•23 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan and Kelli are joined by Joelle Emerson, CEO of Paradigm, to discuss why diversity numbers aren't improving quickly in companies and the challenges in measuring DEI progress. This episode explores the complexities of measuring impact, discusses the trade-offs of long-term strategies, and offers insights for navigating the current backlash. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpenti...
Aug 15, 2024•51 min
In this HR Heretics segment, Nolan and Kelli discuss the dramatic shift in the tech industry's work culture. They explore how the once-glamorous perception of tech jobs, filled with lavish perks and easy success, has given way to a more challenging reality. While this transition is painful, it may ultimately lead to a healthier, more sustainable tech ecosystem with professionals who are truly committed to building the future. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrheretics@t...
Aug 13, 2024•16 min
Today Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich discuss The New York Times article making waves this past week: "So Human Resources Making You Miserable". Nolan and Kelli dissect the article's claims, share their own experiences and what they're hearing from other leaders, and discuss the disconnect between HR and the rest of the org. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Metaview is the ...
Aug 08, 2024•38 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich weigh in on a listener's question (shoutout Karissa!) about implementing 'bar raiser' interview programs at her Series D company. Are they worth the hype, or just an HR trend? Kelli and Nolan dig in. You too can email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. Metaview completely r...
Aug 06, 2024•21 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich sit down with Metaview CEO Siadhal Magos for his insight into how AI is transforming recruiting -- and creating unexpected leverage for teams that know how to use it. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine . Support HR Heretics Sponsors: Planful empowers teams just like yours to unlock the secrets of successful workforce planning. Use data-driven i...
Aug 01, 2024•45 min
In this episode of HR Heretics, Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich discuss how HR teams can break out from behind the curtain and be a proactive force for good within the organization. HR can be more than just a reactive function. Learn how HR teams can demonstrate their real impact on the business as Kelli and Nolan share tips for increasing visibility and showcasing your team's value. *Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: [email protected] HR Heretics is a podcast from...
Jul 30, 2024•17 min