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How to Win podcast with Peep Laja

Hear how successful B2B SaaS companies and agencies compete - and win - in highly saturated categories. No fluff. No filler. Just strategies and tactics from founders, executives, and marketers. Learn about building moats, growing audiences, scaling businesses, and differentiating from the competition. New guests every week. Hosted by Peep Laja, founder at Wynter, Speero, CXL.
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Establishing authority via industry experience with Unqork’s Gary Hoberman

Key Points: Gary’s path to Unqork (01:13) Gary describes the competitive landscape of no code platforms (03:11) Why Gary and his team’s enterprise experience is such a big advantage (04:56) I discuss why going big is worthwhile when playing to win (07:41) Gary talks through the ups and downs of Unqork’s fundraising (09:33) I share my thoughts on handling early fundraising disappointment (12:06) I describe the advantages of making the customer your hero (16:03) How Unqork established themselves a...

Mar 07, 202227 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Making the pivot upmarket with ScreenCloud’s Mark McDermott

Key Points: How ScreenCloud came to be (01:11) Mark describes the early competitive landscape of digital signage (03:07) My opinion on how low-cost copycats could improve their messaging (04:33) I explain why becoming irrelevant is a bigger risk than making a mistake (07:10) ScreenCloud’s approach to content marketing (08:11) My thoughts on why evangelizing category over product in a new category can help you win (09:10) Why Mark knew moving upmarket was the right move for ScreenCloud (12:38) I ...

Feb 28, 202228 minSeason 1Ep. 27

Fostering founder brand as a competitive advantage with Dave Gerhardt

Key Points: Dave explains why having a visible founder can set you apart (01:20) I explain why nepotism is not a thing of the past, and how to cultivate yours (02:50) Dave unpacks how founder story made a difference at Drift (03:22) My thoughts on brand storytelling, and why your story is your strategy (06:02) How Privy approached developing founder brand (07:44) How Ben Jabbawy used his podcast as a content cache (09:30) I explain why I put myself at the forefront when starting my company, CXL ...

Feb 21, 202229 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Educating your target market with Appcues' Jackson Noel

Key Points: How Appcues got their start (01:13) What to do when you realize you’re not that different from your competitors (03:06) Why Appcues found early success through content marketing (05:45) My thoughts on content marketing as a long-term play (07:15) How Appcues approaches competitor awareness (08:30) I explain why studying your competition is key to differentiating (09:38) Why Appcues is focused on being the best experience builder in the market (11:57) My take on how small brands can c...

Feb 14, 202228 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Entering a growing ecosystem with Postscript's Alex Beller

Key Points: The origins of Postscript (01:05) Why Postscript chose to build on top of Shopify’s platform (02:15) My thoughts on the advantages of attaching yourself to a growing ecosystem (03:34) Postscript’s initial, rapid growth (06:38) Alex’s thoughts on the SMS marketing channel opening up(08:45) I explain the law of double jeopardy, and how B2B buyers are satisficing (09:40) Why Postscript’s product strategy is to stay ultra-focused (12:57) My take on differentiating by building for a speci...

Feb 07, 202229 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Differentiating by understanding your uniqueness with Verblio's Steve Pockross

Key Points: How Verblio got their start (01:02) Steve explains who (and what) Verblio is competing against (04:35) How Verblio is attracting top talent (07:33) Steve talks about scaling while maintaining content quality (08:08) What Verblio is doing to build brand reputation (08:37) My thoughts on the importance of story-based marketing over fact-based marketing (09:06) Steve talks about the sales channels Verblio is exploring at this stage in their growth (11:42) My take on why timing is so imp...

Jan 31, 202226 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Building trust through transparency with Metadata’s Gil Allouche

Key Points: How Gil pivoted from a marketing career to starting tech company Metadata (1:12) My thoughts on innovation as a transient advantage (04:19) How Metadata is competing on innovation (06:56) Why Gil made an early marketing investment in G2 Crowd (10:46) Why Metadata opted to tap into pre-existing demand for ABM software (12:41) How Gil and Metadata are differentiating by prioritizing transparency (14:49) My thoughts on gaining customer trust through transparency (18:13) Why Gil’s initia...

Jan 24, 202231 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Category creation and product-led differentiation with Drift's David Cancel

Key Points: David talks about category creation and conversational marketing (01:05) I give my thoughts on category creation and category design, with a quote from Chris Lochhead (03:50) David talks about the downsides of category creation, and Drift's success was a bet (4:50) I give my thoughts on the pitfalls of category creation, with a clip from Gainsight CEO Nick Mehta (07:40) David discusses the cost of category creation, and how Drift had to look for low-cost, high-reward ways to build me...

Jan 17, 202234 minSeason 1Ep. 21

How to Win in SaaS - 15 insights from the series so far

Key Points: Tapping into pre-existing demand (00:40) Listening to customer demands with Alina Vandenberghe - Co-Founder of Chili Piper (01:45) Moving away from feature-based differentiation with Guy Yalif, CEO of Intellimize (03:25) Niching down and focusing on a specific audience with Nathan Barry, founder and CEO of ConvertKit (06:00) Out-innovating the competition with Colin Nederkoorn, founder and CEO of Customer.io (08:10) Doubling down on organic content marketing with Patrick Campbell, fo...

Jan 10, 202227 minSeason 1Ep. 20

How SaaS investor Andrew Chen of a16z is helping entrepreneurs use network effects to tackle the cold start problem

Key Points: Andrew talks about moats and how he identified network effects as a valuable growth tool (01:17) Andrew gives his thoughts on how collaborative use and networking have improved enterprise software across the board in the last decade (04:26) I give my thoughts on sustainable vs transient competitive advantages, with a clip from Rita McGrath (07:07) Andrew discusses how network effects can be used to revolutionize industries in surprising ways, for example AirBnB taking on hotels (09:0...

Dec 20, 202133 minSeason 1Ep. 19

How building methodically is helping Peter Caputa and Databox disrupt the business marketing analytics industry

Key Points: Peter talks about how Databox has pivoted its business model to target a more sustainable market (00:56) Peter discusses how the company is targeting marketers, but open to find new SaaS revenue streams (02:36) I give my thoughts on Peter's strategy of not niching down (04:38) Peter gives his thoughts on trying to find the right mix of investment in search and content-based acquisition (05:34) I give my thoughts on causality, complexity science, and businesses working in a complicate...

Dec 13, 202138 minSeason 1Ep. 18

How concentrating on the details helped Jonathan Dane double KlientBoost's revenue

Key Points: Jonathan talks about how and why he founded KlientBoost (01:14) Jonathan discusses the company's original plan for growing by building their brand (02:43) Jonathan gives his thoughts on how they differentiate themselves from other agencies with their design, their many published case studies, and their consistency in everything they do (03:20) I give my thoughts on consistency and word-of-mouth strategy (05:24) Jonathan talks about lead sources, and how most of it isn't directly trac...

Dec 06, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 17

How developing a breakaway brand helped Gina Bianchini secure $67 million in funding for Mighty Networks

Key Points: Gina talks about how Mighty Networks adapted when their early customers were enterprise, rather than the SMBs or creators they were trying to attract (01.20) I give my thoughts on adapting to changing opportunities, and growth mindset (03:01) Gina talks about how they transitioned to their ideal customer base over time (05:00) Gina discusses how Mighty Networks specifically avoided competing with major social platforms by niching down and combining e-learning and community building t...

Nov 29, 202134 minSeason 1Ep. 16

How mental availability helped Guillaume Moubeche grow Lemlist from $0 to $10 million in revenue

Key Points: Guillaume talks about Lemlist's USP as email personalisation, rather than automation (00:54) I give my thoughts on feature-based differentiation as a way of breaking into a market (03.31) Guillaume talks about the company's exponential growth over the years (05:05) Guillaume talks about marketing, blogging and building communities on a lot of channels to build lead profiles and mental availability (06:37) I give my thoughts on building a social media presence as a newcomer to a field...

Nov 22, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 15

How Neha Sampat pivoted from services to SaaS to launch Contentstack

Key Points: Neha talks about how Contentstack grew from a gap in a stagnant market and embraced new technology clients needed (01:13) I give my thoughts on championing change, and encouraging clients to come with you (3:08) Neha talks about how they took a product-led approach, building features the established competition couldn't match (5:11) I give my thoughts on pulling together and improving existing technologies to build a better product (6:44) Neha discusses how Contentstack was spun out ...

Nov 15, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 14

How Alina Vandenberghe grew Chili Piper's Annual Net Revenue Retention to 160%

Key Points: Alina describes how Chili Piper identified it's niche and developed a solution to one client's problems (01:06) I give my thoughts on adding value, and how that shows in ARR (06:21) Alina talk about how leads were reluctant to try Chili Piper across the whole site, so they sold it as a low-risk experiment (08:01) I give my thoughts on businesses' reluctance to change, and selling them on experimentation (08:55) Alina describes how she networked hard and targeted influential figures a...

Nov 08, 202133 minSeason 1Ep. 13

How Privy's Ben Jabbawy succeeded by focusing on a narrow niche

Key Points: Ben talks about how Privy struggled to scale in its original form (01:07) Ben explains how they developed the idea for focusing on email list growth (04:56) I give my thoughts on product vs distribution (06:16) I give my thoughts on freemium models, and showing users the benefit of paying for additional features (09:37) Ben describes how Privy differentiated itself from other e-commerce marketing tools (12:06) Ben talks about their early marketing efforts (13:19) Ben talks about deve...

Nov 01, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 12

How Shopify's Morgan Brown helps them stay ahead of the competition

Key Points: Morgan explains Shopify's current pain points (01:07) Morgan explains how Shopify's ecosystem helps differentiate it (2:35) Morgan explains how Shopify's marketing targets potential business owners rather than B2B customers(3.48) I give my thoughts on Nassim Taleb's 'Antifragile' theory of attracting customers with a 'low risk, high potential reward' pricing model (5:04) I give my thoughts on using qualitative data to ensure you are targeting customers with the right messaging (6:55)...

Oct 25, 202132 minSeason 1Ep. 11

How Guillaume 'G' Cabane identifies growth opportunities for businesses

Key Points: How G makes winning a repeatable science (02:38) How G starts establishing opportunities for growth (04:10) My thoughts on maintaining 'scent' and keeping pre and post-click messaging consistent to drive conversions (07:19) How G works with a client, step-by-step (08:20) My thoughts on how drift managed to lead by introducing a new narrative (11:15) G's thoughts on category creation and how to stand out whilst avoiding a feature war (11:55) My thoughts on successfully creating new ca...

Oct 18, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 10

How Alex Kracov made Lattice a go-to name for HR professionals

Key Points How Lattice identified and focused on its niche through conversations with customers (01:55) My thoughts on how to enter a crowded market and find your space by attacking from below (05:00) How Lattice honed their marketing strategy and began interviewing big-name non-customers for their media channels, building a brand association (06:24) My thoughts on building mental availability with professional customers by keeping them in mind and engaging with them early, delivering them uniqu...

Oct 11, 202133 minSeason 1Ep. 9

How Colin Nederkoorn doubled down on innovation to grow Customer.io

Key Points How Colin and Customer.io broke into their category (01:22) My thoughts on product-based differentiation (03:03) What game Customer.io is trying to win (04:34) How Colin is trying to differentiate Customer.io (05:47) Colin's thoughts on building and running a distributed company (09:06) My view on new ways of management (10:53) How Colin thinks about moats (12:40) Colin's take on the big players in his category (16:12) How Customer.io attracts tech-savvy buyers (20:30) My thoughts on ...

Oct 04, 202130 minSeason 1Ep. 8

How Ross Hudgens focused on high quality clients, content and services to grow Siege Media

Key points: Why Ross originally decided to lean into content marketing (2:07) My thoughts on developing a strong brand (3:50) How Siege chooses high quality clients (7:21) How Siege attracts the best people to work for them (8:17) My take on the war for talent (9:14) How Siege's marketing strategy has evolved (15:13) My thoughts on how to become a top name in your industry (16:38) Why people want to follow people, not brands (20:45) How Ross thinks about creating moats (25:00) Why my view on "hi...

Sep 27, 202134 minSeason 1Ep. 7

How Patrick Campbell plans to take Profitwell to $100 million+ in revenue

Key Points: My thoughts on the agency business model (2:14) How Profitwell's original mission evolved (3:32) One of the best pieces of advice Patrick can give (4:17) My take on keeping your brand focussed (5:38) Key bets Profitwell made that didn't work out (6:49) The highest ROI campaigns Profitwell have run (8:58) My take on using standard playbooks (10:37) Patrick on the fine art of throwing shade at competitors (11:48) How Profitwell educates potential customers (12:40) My thoughts on having...

Sep 20, 202126 minSeason 1Ep. 6

How Guy Yalif helped Intellimize grow and raise $30 million in Series B funding

Key points: How Intellimize thinks about competing (1:56) Two key ways Guy thinks about differentiation (4:45) My thoughts on "job to be done" boxes (5:10) The third way Intellimize thinks about differentiation (9:07) How Intellimize's competitive strategy has evolved (10:51) What I think is the most power moat a business can have (14:45) How Guy thinks about building moats (15:52) My view on the power of having a narrow focus (18:20) What competitiveness really means (22:24) How often Guy think...

Sep 13, 202133 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Tamara Grominsky on how Unbounce are pairing marketer and machine to create a new category and fend off the competition

Listen and learn: The problem Unbounce was originally trying solve (1:14) My take on the risks of competing on features (3:30) How their industry became a race to the bottom (5:30) Why you should aim to be unique, instead of being the best (6:42) How Unbounce thinks about the competition (11:10) My thoughts on taking a differentiated position in the market (15:18) What category Unbounce are trying to create (20:54) My take on the power of category creation (21:14) What Unbounce are betting their...

Sep 06, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Chris Walker on using personal brand and LinkedIn to scale demand gen experts Refine Labs

Listen and learn: How Chris knew Refine Labs was going to win as an agency (1:45) How I built CXL using inbound marketing (2:50) My thoughts on creating strategic narratives (5:00) How Chris used LinkedIn to land Refine Labs' first clients (7:24) What I mean by being "the best" (10:12) Why Chris focusses on brand, rather than being transactional (13:50) My take on building personal brands (14:20) Refine Labs' vision for the future (17:25) How agencies can differentiate (18:15) Refine Labs' plan ...

Aug 30, 202126 minSeason 1Ep. 3

How Devin Bramhall helped Animalz scale from $1m to $16m ARR... by doing the unscalable

Listen and learn: Animalz's two biggest pain points (2:02) How the Animalz team found a vision for the future (3:10) The biggest strategic bet that Animalz placed (3:56) One of the hardest things to do in business (4:48) How Animalz elevated the perception of their brand (5:48) My thoughts on the power of market penetration (6:05) What I call "The Kim Kardashian Strategy" (8:50) What Devin's mentor taught her about using leverage (10:42) How doing the unscalable helped Animalz scale (12:54) My t...

Aug 23, 202119 minSeason 1Ep. 2

How Nathan Barry bared all to take ConvertKit from $0 to $2 million MRR

Listen and learn: The best advice Nathan Barry has received in business (1:44) How ConvertKit differentiates from the competition (3:54) The specific marketing campaigns that helped ConvertKit go from $2000 to $100 000 MRR in a single year (5:27) How feedback from a high-profile customer helped ConvertKit position themselves in the market (08:26) My take on playing the features game (09:40) A killer feature on ConvertKit that I think is f***king brilliant (13:36) How ConvertKit uses storytelling...

Aug 16, 202121 minSeason 1Ep. 1

Introducing How to Win

How to Win is launching Monday 12th July. Hear how successful B2B SaaS companies and agencies compete - and win - in highly saturated categories.

Jul 07, 20211 min
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