In Episode 175, we are recasting our conversation with Keith Tozer, Commissioner of the Major Arena Soccer League, Coach of the US Futsal National Team, MISL coach and player in five decades, the first-ever pick in the MISL Draft, and a Hall of Famer in multiple hall of fames, who talked with Paul and Phil about what he has learned over the course of his five-decade long career playing and coaching indoor and outdoor soccer and futsal, why all teams should use futsal/indoor soccer as part of the...
Jul 10, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Season 12Ep. 175
In Episode 174, we are recasting our interview with Andrew Simpson, Mindset Coach, Author of Athlete! I’m Talking to You: 7 Mindset Hacks to Dominate in Sports and Life and The Youth Truth: Coaching & Parenting in Today’s Crazy Youth Sports World , and Founder of Player’s Fitness & Performance (“PFP”), who talked with Paul and Phil about some mindset hacks that can help us develop and rebuild, if necessary, a healthy mindset in ourselves and our athletes, some mistakes that 98% of parent...
Jun 26, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Season 12Ep. 174
In Episode 173, Phil and Paul discuss their highlights from the second half of HSEL’s Season 12, which included Frank Kelly, Sean Miller, Roman Khripunov, and Paul Caliguiri, as well as some other topics they have been pondering lately. You don’t want to miss some great leadership nuggets on vulnerability, perseverance, humility, hard work, integrity, and creativity. If you’re loving the show (or if you don’t love it ; )), please subscribe, give us your feedback, rate and review the show, and, m...
Jun 12, 2025•43 min•Season 12Ep. 173
In Episode 172, Paul Caligiuri, OCFC Manager, US Nat’l Soccer Hall of Famer, Former USMNT defender/midfielder and pro player in US and Germany, one of the first Americans to play professionally in Europe, and the unlikely scorer of the “shot heard ‘round the world,” talks with Phil and Paul about his remarkable journey from a passionate young soccer enthusiast to a defining figure in U.S. soccer history. He also recounts his serendipitous connection with Phil relating to a World War II era famil...
May 29, 2025•52 min•Season 12Ep. 172
In Episode 171, Roman Khripunov, Executive Director of Revival Sport and Facilitator for the North American Sport Movement, talks with Phil and Paul about his incredible journey from Uzbekistan to the United States, navigating the challenges of being a refugee and how he developed his passion for using soccer as a tool for ministry and community building. Roman shares personal stories of coaching, breaking down cultural barriers, and the impact of vulnerability and discipleship. The conversation...
May 15, 2025•1 hr 10 min•Season 12Ep. 171
In Episode 170, Sean Miller, founder of Upper 90 HQ, talks with Phil and Paul about his entrepreneurial journey that started with filming soccer games, leading to the creation of his video company that serves soccer teams and players around the US. Sean dives into his personal story, emphasizing how faith and soccer have influenced his leadership and shift in life priorities. He discusses the challenges and opportunities within the US soccer landscape, drawing from his family's extensive involve...
May 01, 2025•1 hr 1 min•Season 12Ep. 170
In Episode 169, Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Lacrosse and Football player, and Author of Influence and the Creator’s Game , talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive experience in sports, business, leadership, and ministry, and how his faith journey has deeply impacted all facets of his life. Frank shares personal stories from his athletic journey, his involvement with FCA, the concept of playing sports to please the Creator, and how sports can integrate with faith to in...
Apr 17, 2025•1 hr 1 min•Season 12Ep. 169
In Episode 168, Phil and Paul discuss their highlights from the first half of HSEL’s Season 12, as well as some personal and professional updates. They talk about their conversations with Wells Thompson, Don Williams, and Brad Kenney, as well as their “Extra Time” episode, delving into topics like vulnerability, what it takes to become a pro athlete, navigating the changing college soccer landscape, prioritizing family values and player development, and the importance of life beyond the game. If...
Apr 03, 2025•45 min•Season 12Ep. 168
In Episode 167, we are recasting our interview with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Soccer, Music Producer and Songwriter, in which he talks with Phil about his journey from being a music producer to opening a soccer training facility in Nashville. He discusses the similarities between the music and soccer worlds, emphasizing the importance of mentality, culture, and leadership in both fields. Pete also talks about his philosophy at Bolta, focusing on curating quality trainers, creating opportunit...
Mar 20, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Season 12Ep. 167
In Episode 166 of How Soccer Explains Leadership, hosts Phil Darke and Paul Jobson discuss the intersection of youth soccer, leadership, priorities, and family values. Through personal and professional experience, they address the importance of aligning family priorities with athletic commitments. They emphasize the benefits of learning from losses, balancing sports and family life, and enabling kids to navigate conversations with coaches. The episode also explores the use of video cameras at yo...
Mar 06, 2025•1 hr 1 min•Season 12Ep. 166
In Episode 165, Brad Kenney, Founder and Executive Director of Soccer Chaplains United and Colorado Rapids Chaplain, talks with Phil about he has blended his passion for soccer, ministry, and leadership. Brad shares his personal story of his transition from high school soccer player to college videographer to Chaplain for the Colorado Rapids over two decades ago. They dive into Brad's experience in founding Soccer Chaplains United, how he navigates his role as a chaplain with players from divers...
Feb 20, 2025•1 hr 12 min•Season 12Ep. 165
In Episode 164, we have another great interview with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations for the Americas and former college coach at every level. He talks with Paul and Phil about modern trends impacting youth soccer and college recruitment. They explore the implications of the transfer portal, the challenges and opportunities related to international player recruitment, and how these transformations affect high school and club soccer. Williams shares his experiences with helping players nav...
Feb 06, 2025•1 hr 18 min•Season 12Ep. 164
In Episode 163, we are kicking off Season 12 with a conversation with Wells Thompson, Former MLS midfielder and 1st Round Draft Pick, Co-Founder of Soccer Resilience, husband, and father. He talked with Paul and Phil about his journey from childhood adversity to the MLS, his struggles with identity and mental health, his faith journey and his personal why relating to that journey, his difficulties transitioning to life after soccer, why left Soccer Resilience after founding and leading it for a ...
Jan 23, 2025•1 hr 11 min•Season 12Ep. 163
In Episode 162, Paul and Phil have a great conversation about their 2024 highlights, including their favorite ministry and family moments, as well as the most impactful books, movies, podcasts, and HSEL episodes they have enjoyed this year. They also discuss the current youth and college soccer landscape, particularly how we can make it more about the kids and young adults playing the game. No doubt you will learn a lot from this conversation and have fun in the process. Resources and Links from...
Jan 09, 2025•57 min•Season 11Ep. 162
In Episode 161, we are wrapping up 2024 with our top 13 highlights (plus a bonus clip as our gift to you) from each of our interviews this year. As we step into 2025, we’re showcasing powerful takeaways from our guests, which highlight key principles of leadership that transcend soccer and apply to every area of our lives. There is even more wisdom packed into the full interviews, so be sure to check them out at howsoccerexplainsleadership.com or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Clips Featu...
Dec 26, 2024•47 min•Season 11Ep. 161
In Episode 160, we are recasting our interview with Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE International and former Messiah College footballer, who talked with Paul and Phil about his path from Messiah College to alleviating poverty with Hope International, how he built in accountability to ensure that he puts his family first, why it is so important to be grateful for everything and entitled to nothing, some of the great lessons he learned from his coaches and teammates at Messiah, how he is using ...
Dec 12, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Season 11Ep. 160
In Episode 159, we are recasting our conversation with Steven Axtell, Head Coach of Cortland University Men’s Soccer, former Cortland goalkeeper, husband, and father, when we talked about lessons learned from his playing and coaching career, leadership lessons gleaned from his coaches, his thoughts on playing multiple sports, how he is using lessons from the game in his family, why he doesn’t think superior tactics and strategy are a critical part of a successful program, and how his leadership ...
Nov 28, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Season 11Ep. 159
In Episode 158, we are re-casting our conversation with Don Williams, Head of Operations for the Americas for Sports Recruiting USA and former coach at all levels of soccer, who talked with Phil about the #1 tool college coaches use to find recruits, how soccer players can find the “right fit,” the recruiting implications of the small world of college and pro soccer, “punching coaches in the nose” with player emails and videos, and real-world lessons kids can learn through the recruiting process...
Nov 14, 2024•1 hr 22 min•Season 12Ep. 158
In Episode 157, we are recasting our interview with Margueritte Aozasa, UCLA Women’s Soccer Head Coach, former Stanford Women’s Soccer Assistant Coach, and former Santa Clara University Defender/Midfielder, who talked with us about her incredible first season at UCLA, during which she became the first coach to win a National Championship in her first year as a head coach, what mission and personal “why” drives her to do what she does, building trust with her team, healthy conflict prevention and...
Oct 31, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Season 11Ep. 157
In Episode 156, we are recasting our episode with David Ricca, NJ Youth Soccer Innovate to Grow Consultant, Founder/President of Just Live Soccer, 9/11 Survivor, Soccer Resilience Ambassador, Member of 2010 World Cup Media & Marketing team, former soccer player, coach, and scout, former MLS Liaison, former CBS Manager, and former Morgan Stanley Financial Advisor, who talked with Phil about how he has used soccer and other tools to overcome the PTSD he has experienced following the traumatic ...
Oct 17, 2024•56 min•Season 11Ep. 156
In Episode 155, we are recasting one of our favorite interview of all time, going back to last year when Phil and Paul interviewed Graham Daniels, Ph.D., Director of Cambridge United, Director of Christians in Sport, and former player for Cambridge United and Cardiff City, about the “Pray, Play, Say” discipleship/leadership method, his personal why, his incredible testimony of how he came to his faith in Jesus Christ and how one pivotal moment changed the course of his life forever, the critical...
Oct 03, 2024•1 hr 9 min•Season 11Ep. 155
In Episode 154, we are recasting our episode with Dan Abrahams, Sports Psychologist, best-selling author of four books, Founder of the Dan Abrahams Soccer Academy and The Sport Psych Show Podcast, and former pro golfer, who talks with Phil about his sports psychology work, his books, and his podcast, the concepts of “Teamship” and motivational climate, extrinsic vs. intrinsic motivation, pre-failing, self-leadership, his personal why, how we can coach difficult players by asking great questions,...
Sep 19, 2024•1 hr 20 min•Season 11Ep. 154
In Episode 153, we are going way back to the first half of our first season and recasting one of our most impactful and most downloaded interviews. In this conversation, Eric Pfeiffer, Founder and Senior Consultant of MPWR Coaching and Collegiate Soccer Player, talks with Phil about emotional intelligence, dealing with insecurities, self-love, permission to fail, the journey of growth, conflict resolution, and much more. Specifically, he discusses: · His story and how his experience playing socc...
Sep 05, 2024•59 min•Season 11Ep. 153
In Episode 152, we are recasting our episode with Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Head Coach, former assistant coach at University of Texas and University of Tennessee, former USWNT, Sky Blue FC, and Atlanta Beat player, 3-time All-American defender at University of Tennessee, and wife, in which she talks with Phil and Paul about what drives her to lead her players with excellence, lessons learned from her playing and coaching career, leadership lessons gleaned from her most influential coach and f...
Aug 22, 2024•57 min•Season 11Ep. 152
In Episode 151, Phil and Paul discuss the key moments and leadership lessons from Season 11, reflecting on impactful conversations with guests like Todd Yelton, Lance VanHaitsma, Paul Gizzi, and Jessica Hain, as well as impactful topics such as overcoming personal tragedies, insights from a referee's perspective, the importance of empathy in leadership, and the implications of the recent NCAA settlement and roster size limits on college soccer. The episode also highlights personal updates from b...
Aug 08, 2024•49 min•Season 11Ep. 151
In Episode 150, Jessica Hain, Founder of The Fulcrum Center and former Head Coach of Liberty University Women’s Soccer, mother, and wife, talks with Phil and Paul about insights from coaching at the collegiate level to international experiences, the significance of faith integration in coaching, and the importance of building trust and relationships within teams. She talks about personal stories of impactful moments and practical advice for coaches looking to make disciples through their coachin...
Jul 25, 2024•58 min•Season 11Ep. 150
In Episode 149, Phil and Paul change it up a bit and dive into the recent NCAA settlement related to NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and its far-reaching implications for college sports. They discuss how the $2.7 billion settlement will impact various stakeholders, including current and future student-athletes, coaches, and universities. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including potential cuts to non-revenue men's sports, Title IX implications, the involvement of private equity firms...
Jul 11, 2024•48 min•Season 11Ep. 149
In Episode 148, Paul Gizzi, So Cal Eagles’ Director of Advancement and Japan Ministries, talks with Phil and Paul about his decades-long leadership and ministry journey involving the beautiful game and lessons learned along the way, the importance of playing multiple sports in childhood, cross-cultural lessons learned growing up in Japan, what drives him to do what he does, a defining moment that taught him a very important lesson, important advice to coaches at all levels, and deep, funny, and ...
Jun 27, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Season 11Ep. 148
In Episode 147, Lance VanHaitsma, CONCACAF’s Refereeing Technical and Development Manager, former Int’l Futsal Referee, and former Big 12 Referee, talks with Phil and Paul about his story and how he worked up the ranks of refereeing, life and leadership lessons learned from refereeing, the importance of resetting after mistakes and how Lance did it, the law vs. spirit of the law, his thoughts on VAR and its impact on the game, referee abuse and why it is critical that we figure out how to stop i...
Jun 13, 2024•1 hr 17 min•Season 11Ep. 147
In Episode 146, Todd Yelton, Samford University Women’s Soccer Head Coach, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about his ministry and coaching journey and lessons he has learned along the way, how his wife’s death transformed him and his coaching, lessons learned on his team’s mission trip to Costa Rica, the integration of faith and coaching, how he uses lessons learned from the game in his life outside the game, and much more. Specifically, Todd discusses: · His personal story, includ...
May 30, 2024•1 hr 13 min•Season 11Ep. 146
