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to l A to record this. So Amy said we're going to do it without you, and I pushed back and I said, no chance in how we're doing a podcast. Thank you for your loyalty. Amy didn't mean to throw Amy under the bus, Like I know you have a lot of travel in your life, my man, and that you have tour this summer, and so I just want to say on behalf of the guys. We appreciate you. Try. Thank you, man. I'm so happy to be here. You kidding me? I was like me, man, I'm just looking

forward to this very much. It was good to see some of my favorite male faces. Yes, he didn't say he didn't say personalities, but he said it faces for radio. Also, I want to acknowledge Rick, my cat Rick. So Rick also travels down to l A from Oakland each week for the show. Uh and he's married to kids, got a full time job. So the commitment of these two

good sirs to bring you this podcast is exceptional. I mean, so I'm still tipping it more in Gavin's favor, but sure it's nice that you can, but you still need to get on the public bus of airline and Ryan Ryan's Ryan drove like four miles to get here. Guys, that's very possible. Cat more to me and Dmitri runs this place. So I don't know what that means, but thank you. Yeah here, I'll tell you that once a day. See if we can get you a raise from Amy.

Uh No. But we have an interesting show here, gentlemen, really super interesting topic. Today. We are answering questions from our audience. We like that, we like that, we like the audience. First, yeah, we have an audience. We did all right, it says first question from Rick. That can't be right. So just to everybody listening, we have an email address that many of you have reached out. We've received a ton of emails already. Men at I Heart radio dot com is where you can send your emails

and we'll always dive into questions from listeners on this show. Uh, we have questions from that email. We also have questions that you guys have sent us on our Instagram page at how Men Think podcast on Instagram. And we're gonna get into our first question. This is called That's what he said. These are our answers to questions from listeners, male and female. The first question is from Katie. She says, do men feel the same press pressure as women to

marry and have children? Especially as we get older? Who's aged in here looking at you, buddy? Do men feel the same pressure women? Think? Uh? Do men feel the same pressure? I think that men feel feel pressure, but they don't feel the same level of of it being the timeline that women feel. And it's simply due to the way we're built physically, you know, we're just Uh. I think men's timeline just in general is longer than women for giving, you know, for making a family, starting

a family. So what age would you say that you just science? I get you pregnant, right, now I've been snipped. So here's a question, in your mind, what what age do you think a woman starts to feel pressure to marry and have a family in what age do you think a man generally does Just generally speaking, generally speaking, I think I think when I think, oh, from all my conversations with buddies of mind they being, etcetera, it sounds like late twenties is when women start really feeling it, um,

talking about it, really getting serious about it. And I think that just that can go much, much, much longer for men in general. There's some guys who say, oh, I want to be a young dad, right, but what's considered a young dad now has gotten sort of old, you know, compared to what the old standards were. Um, so what's considered a young dad now? In your mind? Five? Probably that's still considered a young dad, you know, which classically speaking, is about fifteen years older than it was

a generation and a half ago. And that's that's the age I was when I had my first Great what were you? I was thirty two two and Ryan thirty five when you had your first So I just turned thirty six, uh, and I I could still go easily another three or four years, probably without kids. I still feel like I'm fifteen, right, so, but I think I would agree with you. I think for so for Katie's question, do men feel the same pressure, I think we do

feel pressure. As I got to know dat about it, I got to be thirty, I was looking for more fulfillment and purpose and happiness in my life. Uh so I was looking for the life partner. I wasn't looking to have kids so much. And still I want to have kids. I want to have a family. I look up to you gentlemen for her families. But I don't

feel the pressure right now to do it. So I would agree with you that I think men can get to almost forty before they really feel The comment that Gavin made about being an old dad, I think it is an important one. So for you, do you you know you played hockey your whole life. You probably want to be able to play hockey with your kid. Does that ever factor into your mind where you say, if I wait ten years, am I going to be able to actually get out on the ice and skate with

him in his formative playing years in high school? Or or not thinking that far? That doesn't honestly that doesn't weigh on me at all because I believe I'm going to be so active in my life that even when I'm eighty, I'll still be active. So I don't worry about having kids now because my level of activity or physicality is going to diminish. I don't worry about that at all. I'm more just want to do it when

I feel comfortable with my life. And my wife and I are starting to start talking about kids, like we're not talking about do we want to have kids right now, but we're like, Okay, when when would we want to have kids? Like we should maybe open that conversation. But being able to be I still think I'm going to be extremely active later, very late in my life. It's just how I'm wired. And would you mind playing would

you mind playing hockey with my kids? Because I don't feel like I can't really do it, so I think you can man a couple lessons. I know a guy can get you a lessons. I'll tell you this though. When I was younger, for some reason, I always had in my head I always knew that I wanted to have kids, and I always knew that I want to get married, and I didn't necessarily think I didn't want to do it like in my early twenties or anything like that. But I guess in the back of my mind,

I was always looking. I was always thinking, like, I know, there's going to be someone and when that time comes, that's where it will be. And then I kind of forgot about it for a little while and I was It's not like I was obsessed with it, but in my mind I knew that that's what I wanted. So when I actually when I met my wife, um, I

kind of I kind of knew right away. We didn't it was a weird time at the you know, when we met, so we didn't start dating right away, but I kind of knew that that was that was it, and from then on and the rest just felt natural. And then we were married for a few years. We dated for a few years, were married for a few years. Then, like you were saying, Brookes, it just seemed like the

right time too to then have kids. Oh here's a question, though, you asked me, pressure desire, right, Yes, so I don't want to I don't want to get those two conflicted. And the desires always always existed for you, yeah, of course, but but pressure is a different thing. Okay, So I could I ask you, like to be open and genuine author like, do you right now you're forty correct forty two? Uh? Do you feel pressure to start having a family now?

Starting to feel that? Yeah? But just because you know you you start thinking, oh, well, what would a full life be like? Etcetera, et etcetera. And I and my father always talks about, oh, when I had kids, it was the greatest time in my life. And this and that a lot of people talk about talk about that. A lot of a lot of men talk about that it was the greatest time in my life. You know. Um,

so I feel I feel some of that. I feel a little bit of that pressure just because i'm you know, I'm deep into my adulthood now, you know, I'm not one, you know, Katie, that was awesome. Appreciate that question. Onto Katie has one more so, Katie, that's we're gonna skip one. We're gonna go to this one. Katie really wants to know, and she typed it in here. The most important question Dick Picks discussed confess have you sent them? Why? Gavin,

do you send them? Women are really baffled. Please clear this up. Dick picks. Raise your hand if you have sent one. I have never sent one, never sent one. I have never sent one, not recently. I only send them to myself. I only send them to myself, just selfies and selfie modes to me, like, yeah, totally. It just makes my hands look bigger man. So okay, So the consensus is, uh, this group. I mean, I have to interject here. I have to two parts of this.

I feel like dick picks are sort of the new up and coming thing for you know, having a relationship in the new age of being online and being on Snapchat or Facebook or whatever. That's just kind of the new way of what kids who are either you know, about to have sex. That's kind of their way of communicating. I hate to say it, but that's how I feel that they're communicating back and forth. So like they're sending

a dick pick and she's sending something back or vice versa. Right, Which the second part of what I want to say was I don't think that really right, you know, like me being a responsible father and having a thirteen year old, like, the last thing I want is for him to be sending dick picks a because it's practically illegal, like if you get a dick pick from or a pick from of one of your friends friends and he forwards that on, like, you can't not do that criminal charges, right, So, um,

I think Katie, it's an excellent question, and I think where you're going with it is just kind of the generalized thing of like who sends dick picks, and that's kind of the fun side of it. But I think the serious side of it also is, you know, what at what point is this accepted in society and what point can what age is appropriate? I guess really, you know. I also want to thank Katie for keeping it classy

dressing up the show. Let me ask you, guys to have any of your significant others, and it can be a wife or a girlfriend asked you to send one that you've just chosen not to, or you've never been approached asking. Sadly, no one has ever asked me for a dick pick, Dmitri. I just asked you this yesterday. I did not. I read that the wrong one wrong. I have never been asked by my wife and I've

never asked my wife to send me those either. Um. I think both of us sort of have a fear that somehow our phones could get hacked or so would be that would be an issue, that would really be an issue. Well, that's where I feel like it's this is a newer generational way of communicating and and having, you know, exposing yourself, right, you know so, and it's not good in my mind, you know, I feel like past go ahead, Yeah, I have I have a buddy,

one of my best friends in the world. I got out of practice one day and it was like ten thirty am and I got out of practice. Check my phone and one of my best friends in the world sent me a text and this is all it said. I sent five dick picks before nine am today. That was all it said. So, like, it half opens a lot. Why don't we let Tori she's twenty four. So this is our producer, Tori. She's twenty four, and she's gonna give you guys like the twenty four year old input. Well,

I think dick picks became a thing once. Um, snapchat became a thing because then it was like, oh, it goes away in like two seconds. So I would randomly like sometimes get things. This happened more in college. Um, you like open up a Snapchat and you're like, what am I looking at? And then you're like, okay, yeah, this is for sure zone's penis and then and then it goes away and you're kind of like that was weird, and then they would kind of like side message you.

And I think that kind of became a thing. And I know that in high school they were like scandals pictures, but I think that social media has now been given this more of an opportunity for people, because now you can literally send like naked photos to somebody over Instagram and like DM them. So I kind of feel like it's it's not I think it's I wouldn't enjoy this. I didn't enjoy it when I've gotten it, But um, I think that it's way more of a thing now,

like you face time and you do like naked. Are we also missing the point that it's not an attractive photo. We're not talking about like you think of a picture of what you like. Yeah, I mean, like I'm just going to be bold, and I hope my mom's not listening, but I hope the right circumstances, everybody listen. Don't tune now because Amy said don't listen to I think in the right circumstances, it can be like a turn on. And I'm just gonna say that question, when was the

last dick pick you got? How are you looking at your phone? I have to think on that like recently, this month, this month? What what circumcisions would those be? Exactly? I have? Okay, so sorry, I gotta get some guts here. My hands are clamming there. What about like sexting? Uh, That's why I was pointing out that I think that dick pick is. I don't think that like there was sexting like a couple of days ago. Okay, Okay, this

is so can I go? Yeah, you can go. So I've received in my d M s a dick pick before on Instagram. I've received it from me. It was like Brooks, I love you on the show, bro, how long did it take you to zoom in this picture like a microphone? But it is like I don't know how girls handled because it was a startling. I saw it and I'm like, whoa, it's startling, Tori saking her head. No, it's just a straight up Okay. So I guess what I'm kind of going through in my mind is, oh god,

I really hope my mom's not listening. But I think I would send a photo that's sort of classy when the other when we're texting back and forth, I'm not sure I had a weird like, Oh, I hope he doesn't send it back because that would be aggressive a little. I don't. I'm having a hard time. I think a girl sending up sort of a photo is easier on everybody's eyes than the guy sending the photo. I think it's jarring when a guy sends that. And that was my point. I don't think that the dick pick is

an attractive thing. I mean, and if I would ever do it, which I wouldn't. There was an episode of the King of Queens where he took a picture there at a wedding and he put a little top hat on it and he pretended it was Abraham Lincoln. Like, I'd have to have fun with it because it's not an attractive shot. Brooks, if you want to, like take off your shirt and send someone that photo, I think you got the right to do that. But I don't think anybody no offense Rick because you said you did it.

You sent a rick pick good. I don't think it's going to be an attraction. I still disagree, and I would love to hear from people on this because I think in the right circumstances it could be quite So I can give you one a good circumstance on that. So I like playing hockey. I had teammates that they said that, like, we traveled a lot. So I had a teammate and I'm not going to mention his name, but him and his wife would send each other a lot of photos or videos um to keep himself and

then herself entertained while he was on the road. They're married kids. I find nothing wrong with that that's in their relationship. I find that that's still connecting. Yeah, Like I find that's actually amazing. I would never do it with like a random but but when a guy just sends out a like boom right in your face, here's a dick picky And whether a d M or a text, I think I think the guy is searching for is this going to escalate now? If not, I'm onto the next.

And it's also very abrasive. I think to the woman to receive that, I'm forty five and in my life I've received three from three different people. That's it good for you when you've send they call that a trifecta. When you send your photos, do you include your face and the photos are only a body shot? Never face. My buddy that I told you about face all of them. I asked him that. He goes, oh yeah, Brooks, I just put it on. Was he getting his face in his own dip bend friends time or on the iPhone?

I don't And that was the thing I was gonna I wanted to say. It was like, there's obviously that shock effect to receiving that, but on the other side of it, And don't get me wrong, I don't think these this is right, but I just want to clarify that. But the shock factor must also create a little bit of intrigue behind it. No, they're shaking their heads. No, Tories kind of like Tories just opened the window and

jumped out. So what about this? Do you ever have you ever been texted or sexted a dick PI that's circumcised or uncircumcised, and has that drawn any pretty? Very pretty? Are you? Are you? Are you trying to reveal something to us here? It's a very topic of conversation. Maybe it's another question. Maybe that Okay, as you're sort of like moving a relationship along or whatever. Maybe that's like a way to sort of talk about some things. I don't know, I'm getting a little hety on it, but

maybe you're kind of like opening the door. Next question. All right, we're moving on from the well. I'm sure at some point in this show that topic is going to come back around. It's an important come back up. Yeah, I sent him to him all the time, Like I said, I only send them to him and all the time. I would just be so cold that if Gavin, and let's just say Gavin has a girlfriend and he's on the road, Like I think that would be kind of cool. I would go to um Sears and get professional pictures

done of it. Uh, you know, maybe with some items from their catalog, with a little craftsman tools. See I'm old school. I say, go to Santa Monica Pere and have that person sketch it for you. And I think that shows it's a great idea. They could do a caricature version, make it more interesting. Alright, Okay, we're moving on here. Guys. Uh, here's a question from Damien. We're gonna switch topics here. If you could have any man on the podcast dead or alive? Who would it be?

And why? I actually really like this question. Things is one of us? Did I would like a dead Brooks? Why you were within arms reach on me? You know he fights a lot. So if you could have any man on the podcast dead or alive, who would it be? And why? Rick? Anybody come to mind? Uh? Yeah, have

any man? Something pops into my head. Yeah, thanks for the question, Damian, I mean to be honest with you, probably my grandfather on my dad's side, my dad dad, you know, he Um was in Latvia as grew up in Latvia, one of the Baltic states, and escaped from Latvia from the Russians during World War two and just had a crazy kind of long history of getting out of his his home country, moving to Germany during World War two, getting captured by the Allies, coming to America,

and did the whole immigration process while raising four kids. Um, And so I would love an opportunity to sit down with him and discuss with him how that was like, what he went through, what was his mindset you know of how do you raise four kids? I'm having a hard time with two in a regular neighborhood you know, and to go from you know, a country that you've completely up rooted yourself, go to another country with no money, no nothing on your back beside your family, Like I

would love to sit and chat with him about that. Wow, great answer, Dmitri. I would like to say my father who's passed, but he was such a great storyteller. He taught me everything, um that I know and hopefully that he knew, and and he was very funny. So I feel like if we were to bring him on, there would be no need for me. So I'm gonna I'm

gonna just pass pass on that for now. Um, you know, I'm gonna go I love you know what, ricks up, I'm gonna go a little more lighthearted, and I'm gonna go with Chevy Chase because um, growing up, love him growing up, he was my comedic idol and i'd, you know, watch all his movies. Fletch is one of my favorite movies of all time. And I still look at Clark Griswold as the ultimate family man. Clark, Yeah, Ryan, my father who was killed when I was six years old.

I would choose him, and we've we've touched upon it in previous episodes. But um, yeah, there's a million questions I would want to ask him, and I'd want him to see the man I've become in the family that I've created, and hopefully approve of everything I've done up until now and validate everything I've done and just see, Yeah, like I would ask a million questions, Do you have one question you'd like to share with us that you'd really like your your dad to answer? Is he proud

of me? I bet? I bet that's good for you man, You're You're a hero for sharing that. I bet there's a lot of people in our audience that that resonates with the are listening to that, and I think all of us you can feel it in here. I'm certain emotional right now. And um this leads to the next question as well. Last time you cried and legit? Why? I'll let you guys think on it for the break coming back from break, the guys have been thinking over

this hard. Gavin cried a little bit, thinking about it. Very sensitive. Let's lead with you, buddy. This is from Patrick. The last time you cried a legit cry? And why? Oh, Actually, my eyes watered up today. I had an interview today and uh, I Uh. I had an interview today and the person interviewing me, um, by the way, you were supposed to be there books uh with me do that interview, and you left me alone? Is that why you gride? How got separation anxiety? I got so scared? It's true.

I waited, I waited by the door for you. Here are my wooby. So so I had an interview by myself because you decided not to come with me. And I was in the interview with all of these strangers on the air, and one of them, uh told me that her mother had passed away a few months ago, and she knew that, she knew my mother had passed a year and a half ago. I gave her a hug and uh, it got kind of emotionally, you know. She she got kind of emotional, and that, of course

made me emotional, so I did. I began to tear a little bit and uh. And then I got ahold of myself and I lightened the mood with some you know, absurdities because I had to get can troll of myself again. It's hard, hard thing to talk about, you know, when you lose a loved one, particularly you know, a parent, you know, it's a tough thing to to a tough thing to get through. And I had a conversation with a close friend of mine um and he had told

me that he had lost his mother. And he said to me, he said, there's he said, years ago, a friend of his told him that there's. You have two lives. You have your life with your mother, and then you have your life after your mother passes. And uh, it's He's totally right. Uh, your life is completely different. Everything is different. I mean it looks the same, but it doesn't feel the same, you know. So it's just a different day. You know, every day is just just it's

just the son didn't quite as bright, you know. Can you tell us what your favorite thing about your mom was? No, non good qualities? One thing you loved about your mom? Smile, laugh, She supported just something. My mother had class, you know, she had class. I feel like she had class for all of us. And so she could remind you with just her demeanor to get control of yourself, you know what I mean, not even correcting you, Just her demeanor

was enough. What was your mom's name? Lynn? Yeah? Beautiful man, beautiful. Thank you Ryan for you buddy. The last time you cried, a legit cry, and why the I can't. I don't cry that often. The last I can remember the last two times I cried, and that's a large um year disparity. But the last time I cried, it was one of the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Legitimate. I never in my life, I never see a Philadelphia champion an Eagles championship ever. And to that end, that's why my grandfather

is ninety three years old back in Philly. I am immediately after Eagles won the Super Bowl, picked up phone, called him and cried because I thought he was going to die before he ever got So we would talk every week on Monday morning after the Eagles game. I'd call him on the way into work. So that moment of of it all happening and being able to call him and say we did it as if I were on the team and he were on the team, like it was a moment I never thought I'd get to experience.

And he was in tears himself, and he's ninety three and Philly and I'm in in l A. And it was an amazing moment. Good for you, man, Can I let you know something? You are on the team, So You're in true because as an athlete, the city embraces you as an athlete, and as an athlete, you're so grateful for the city and the people of the city. You are on the team, your grandfather is on the team. You were part of the wind. We pay your salaries. Yeah, tru, Um Dmitri for you. You want me to go to Rick.

Let's go uh Rick? Last time you cried uh? Why? Well, so it looks looking at Patrick's question or or trying to, you know, answer it properly here. Um, thanks for the question, Patrick.

In terms of crying, you know, I don't know, similar to Ryan, Like, I don't know if I've had a like a legit, full out cry, you know, like I've gone I recently, and you know, I go through life in their little times where I get really emotional, Like I gave a speech at my brother's fiftieth birthday party, and like I was trying to talk and all of a sudden, I just kind of broke out. And I don't know if it's like a nervousness cry or what the heck it is. Um. Recently, I was just in

Cooper's town for one of my son's baseball games. And the national anthem was playing, and I just started tearing up a little bit. You know. It's like it's more out of pride, I feel like now than it is about like a sadness per se. I mean, I know that will come at a certain point in my life, but a lot of it's more out of pride. Like my son worked extremely hard to get to this point, to get to that tournament, and to you know, see him there with the national anthem going, and you know,

it was just super proud moments. Or all be in a car and I'll listen to a song and it's not Gavin Degrass song, but so you cry and like just be so into it and emotional and like it Like I'm not crying per se, but all like get this weird inside feeling of just you know, proudness. I get Proudness isn't really a word, but um, and it just it's I get really emotional about things, you know, like coming here and enjoying this new experience, you know, and like it's I take a lot of pride in

what I do and what we do. Um. And so even then it's like that I'm so it's less of like a sadness cry. It's more along lines I get, I get, you know, um, tear eyed about certain you know things. It's a very blessed life man to be able to cry out of happiness. You're very lucky. Yeah. Okay, So last time, honestly, when Ryan just opened up about his father brought tears in my eyes. I thought that

was super powerful. Um. And then prior to that, I had a conversation with my wife probably about two to three months ago about hockey and unresolved issues, still trying to move through in process being done playing hockey. Um had some tears there for sure. Uh. And still I think there's still more in there that I need to to get out. Uh. And then prior to that one, the last really big time I cried was the day I was released. It was a big like I just shut the blinds and so, how did you find out

that you were released? And like tell talks to the moment? Okay, So this is it's kind of ironic in a lot of ways. It was Thanksgiving Day, November seven, November of seventeen, and we had practiced in the morning playing for l A Kings. We had practiced in the morning. I was driving to the airport to catch our team flight to Phoenix, where I was going to meet my parents for Thanksgive Us Thanksgiving, You West Thanksgiving. I was gonna meet my

parents for Thanksgiving supper at their house in Phoenix. And my parents are Canadian but they winter in Phoenix, so I was gonna have Thanksgiving supper with them. Play the next night in Phoenix. Was going to be fantastic. Little two days and I got a phone call said, hey, Brooks can come back to the rink. And I knew right away because as a general manager, knew right away. Um walked into the office and he's like, we're going younger, we need to let you go, and I I was.

He was a man I could. I can't thank Mr Blake enough about how he dealt with me in that moment. He gave me some of the worst news potentially of my life, but he delivered it straightforward and honest and sincerely and as a man, you can take that when it's genuine. And shook his hands and thank you for the opportunity, and then went home and just like cried like just it was damn yourenna make me. You're gonna make me crying here again. Let me let me ask

you something, Um, did you speak with him since? Have you called him since to thank him for being to with you, because it sounds like you appreciate the way that he went about it. I did, and I told him that we had a great discussion. We had a discussion before I played with the King's about if this was to not work out, what would happen with me, so that the cards were all on the table. And so that's one thing I appreciated anybody in a management

position out there listening to this. People can take good or bad news as long as you are transparent and open with them. So we talked about this from the start. He's like, we want you here, Let's try it. If it doesn't work out, we're going to have to part ways. Great man, let me come in, play my ass off. And at the end of the day then I know we at least both tried and he treated me with the utmost respect. Thankful for the King's organization and the opportunity.

So yeah, but those are ryan today, the last conversation with my wife about hockey and really the day I was let go, I really had a big emotional uh cry. I almost cried honestly leaving the parting gradually today because I forgot to get validated and ain't got paid yet. All right, we'll go back from break in a second, back from break. I just dried all my tears again from crying lost the pool for who cries first in

the studio. But Dmitri, you have an answer you'd like to ask you the last time you legit cried and why? So it was this past year, And UM, I'm gonna say this for all audiences, so I'm gonna try and

keep it, uh without tipping anything. But um, it was a busy time in life, and the tooth fairy forgot to come from my oldest daughter, and um, and so I she was she was, she woke up and the minute the moment I saw her, it dawned on me that that um, that she was upset and I knew why, and so I sat her down and I tried to explain to her was grasping at straws, and I tried to explain her that it might have been my fault because um, I think that I had set the house

alarm that night and maybe that scared off the tooth fairy in the set and as I was trying to explain this to her, she reached over and she gave me a hug, and I just started bawling, like she now she was comforting me, and and at that point I knew that she had figured it out. Um, whatever she needed, whatever the explanation was, um, and isn't as comforting as that was, And that it was a relief, Um, that she didn't think she was just left out and

this and that. Um, it was obviously a big step in in a kid's life to to move on from that and how that happen. And so it was funny because I tried to make her feel better and I broke down. Then she comforted me, and then I think it was just a little bit of relief. So okay, So does the tooth fairy come the next night and come with a bigger better Uh? Well, don't forget this is the she's the oldest of four kids. So um,

it was kept under wraps. The tooth fairy did come, um, and the tooth Fairy will continue to come whether um you know, with with whether she expects it or not. Is this the part where you tell us that she's thirty? Yeah, obviously my oldest. Okay, we're going to I just want to say thank you, gentlemen, because that was like you all opened up and exposed some things that are very real and authentic and near and dear to your hearts. UM, thank you so thank you for that question. Patrick, Uh,

really appreciate that. Here's another question from Ellie. She says, I am professionally successful, nearly thirty year old female who was still a virgin years ago. I made the decision as part of my faith to wait to have sex until marriage. That being said, here are my two questions. First, does it matter to you who are you dating what your partner's sexual history is? And second, at what point

in dating do you bring up your deal breakers. I'm someone that prefers to rip the band aid off and just bring it up so I don't waste anyone's time. But I I have friends who think you need to win them over first and then drop the deal breaker bombs. So back to the first question, doesn't matter who you

are dating, UM with what their sexual history is. I'll go I I've I've always wanted to know that, UM, somebody whoever I was going to end up with hadn't just gone and and done it with anybody, So it didn't matter. It wasn't like I was like, well that it has it has to be on one, you know,

five or less or you know. But in my in my reality, when I thought about settling down and marrying someone and having them be the mother to my kids, I didn't want it to be such a flippant thought for them to be with to have just been with a ton of people. So I never had a specific number in my head. Um, but it was something that I was always aware of. And if someone had come to me and said, hey, you know, I've been with you know, a hundred people, I probably, honestly, I would

probably have a problem with that. But the flip side, I think, and what what Ellie is getting at is if you are a virgin, that's then could you ever be with someone? And you spoke about it when we talked about intimacy and when Julianne was on intimacy for many people is such a large part of a marriage and a relationship And can you enter into a marriage without knowing if you have that sexual chemistry? Could you are you asking me personally? I full transparency. I think

for myself personally, would be very difficult. I think a a sexual relationship to me prior to marriage would be very important and was to me uh with my wife. Uh. And so for me that would be very difficult. And I'm only speaking for me, I'm not speaking for all men on that. What about yourself? It's a it's a really tough one. It's you know, because I respect someone someone's faith and that this is a faith based decision and you have to you have to honor that respect

that completely. YEA, But I would echo what you said. I don't think. I don't think I could enter into a marriage and not know and then find out, you know, early on in the marriage that we have no sexual chemistry and that this isn't going to work. I don't think I could ever do that. Can you develop like say, say, you you get married and you don't have that and I don't know the answer this I'm asking, And you get married and you don't feel that sexual chemistry because

you haven't had that closeness yet. Do you think that's something that can develop from then and you can develop that sexual chemistry together or is it right off the bat? Yes or no? Probably? I think more often than not in this case, it's a virgin would end up with another virgin who has kept his or her virginity for the exact same reasons and are going through this journey of sexual exploration together, and so there's less likelihood that that you're you're you really want to laugh at that.

I'm not laughing at I'm just in my head. If I'm being honest, I think, yeah, that's it's probably not going to be great for a while if they're both versions. But I also think that I also think that if if the man or the woman is a virgin and the other one is not, that you can still have sexual chemistry without having sex. That you could be like just lusting and desiring the person and you could know this is going to be incredible when we do. And it's a faith based decision, as Ellie says, So I

think that, yes, do I think it can happen. Absolutely. I think there can be chemistry without actual sex going on, no doubt about it. What about the opposite way? What about like is it? Um doesn't matter how many partners your potential life partner has had prior to you asking me, Um, you know it could Listen, Let's be realistic Okay. I mean, I'm no angel. And as much as men think that they're looking for one, it's a it's most of the time it's it's more like a fantasy land. You know.

You're looking for someone to have traits that are mostly unrealistic. Um. And part of that maintaining that infatuation with someone is they're not necessarily exposing all of the worst parts of their life or phases of their life that they went through in order for you to maintain that fantasy about them and that innocence, that purity in your mind that they may have. Um, you don't necessarily want to know everything. I don't, and I want to permit them to have.

I wanted to permit them to having gone through those developmental phases of their life. UM. You know, I'm certainly not looking to be somebody's educator and relationship. UM. So you know, because would be an incredible imbalance for me. UM. I want somebody who has been part of the world. Uh, and not necessarily is someone who's freaking out we're in

a room together. UM. You know, I mean I want there to be some level of understanding there, and uh, it cannot it's not necessarily all sexual, but I want them to have had relationships and a real life and a job. And you know, it's okay to have friends and enemies. That's real life. It's okay for them to have a wild phase of their life. I certainly did. Um And so yeah, you go ahead to echo and

take further what you're saying. I believe that whatever if this person, if you are looking at somebody as your life partner, your significant other for life, you have such a deep love and admiration and respect for that person that whatever they went through that got them to be

that person, I think is necessary. You know, like the man I am to my wife today is because of a lot of stuff that I've gone through, good or bad, to meeting her and for her, the woman she is is stuff that she's gone through that maybe was painful or maybe enjoyable or whatever at certain times of her life, but has brought her to this moment to be prepared and be this type of a human to be in a relationship with me. So I think there is value.

I think, you know, I was I was thinking, you know, I think that there's a little bit of a builder in every one of us, a little bit of a fixer. And I think that I think part of appealing to that element of our psyche is looking for things that are a little bit broken, and and I think you're looking for something that you can help too, And and I think you ultimately find each other in that way.

You know, you're looking for someone to fill and fix certain parts of you, and you're looking to help fix certain parts of other people, only the ones that you think that you can be helpful with, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's a great point. And and what I was gonna say based on what you both said,

but Brooks, what you just mentioned. It's funny. The second half of Ellie's question was about deal breakers and what I was gonna say, but you actually pointed out pointed out the reason why for me, I don't think that

anybody can really have a deal breaker. For instance, I mentioned what I mentioned in my ideal thought, but I don't believe in in deal breakers because so what you said, I think when you meet somebody whatever brought them to this, that's the person that you're that you're gonna that you want to be within your learning, so you can go into a situation and say, listen, this is my deal breaker,

I won't do. But when you meet a person, if they connect with you and there's that there's that bond between you two, I think when you find that right person, because technically, I mean not technically, but people say, hey, there's one person for you, right, And if you believe that, then there's no way you can set a criteria and say these are my deal breakers and this person can have fallen that because you'll meet somebody and maybe there's

something that you thought was a deal breaker, but you're like, wow, this made this person who they are and I love that person. So what about what about current deal deal breakers? Like you're looking at somebody's past, is like, there's no deal breaker and somebody's past, but what about a current deal breaker? You know, like if this person, like for me, honestly, like I don't think I could be with somebody who

smoked cigarettes. I think for me that would be a deal breaker, Like that would be very difficult for me. I couldn't be with someone that's rude to other people. Yeah, So how how so to Ellie's second question, Uh, she wants to know if if you should lay out the deal breakers from the onset when you've just met someone and are interested as opposed to waiting un till you've won them over and now saying oh, by the way,

we're good. I want you to change all these things from a man's perspective, which one from my perspective, I feel you can't do either one, Like what are you gonna sit down on the first date and be like, okay, here, I can't You can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't drive. You know, people do, and I think it's crazy, And I think those are the ones that are still sort

of alone perhaps. But I feel also that if you're going through these kind of together, like you know, you're you get to learn that person in their experience in life, then when should she do it. She should do it as she's going through and understanding who that person is, and then in her own mind she's either making up those or bringing those to the table and having the discussion with that person saying, hey, you know what, I

I really love you. You're awesome. You know all the time we spend, but you know, I wish is there any way you can kind of stop smoking or whatever that may be. I think you're right, so so a very close friend of mine has cancer. It's in essentially remission. That would be like how you could say it, but it's still there. So she debates when she's dating someone new, at what point do I tell them? And I don't feel like she needs to tell them the first date.

It's like you don't have to say, hi, nice to meet you. By the way, I have cancer and it could come back. But as it gets more serious, then I do think she does need to tell them. Putting myself in that in those shoes, if I was a gentleman on that date with her, I think you're right, Amy, because I think if it was told to me on the first date, I might be a little startled and

jarred by it. But as I got to know this person, maybe on a second date or a third date, that that might soften a little because I know her personality and have developed somewhat of a compassion as a human for her, not not with her situation, but just as a human, and then it would be like, okay, can you tell me more? That it wouldn't be so I I think, I yeah, no, that's a great point. I mean, I think you need to learn getting the information up

front could be a bit startling. Or or you know whatever you want to starling, but like and then you're not looking at the cancer. You're looking at that person, you know, and do you want to know who that person is? Is she or he great to go on walks with? Or do they like to go out to dinners or whatever? You know, Like, you're not trying to date the person that has cancer. I feel like you're trying to figure out who that person is and then and then understand what where to go with it after that?

Well said, Okay, another one from Mary Beth. I'm excited for this one. I'm going to direct this one to Mr Gavin DeGraw. What constitutes high maintenance with regards to women putting on your makeup on your way to the gym? Oh? Wow? Okay? Anything else? What else? I feel like there's more there? What else he got? What constitutes high maintenance? There's a lot of versions of high maintenance, so give them to us.

Oh okay, here's a difficult one. You ever go shopping with your girl, not just your shopping, but like not just take your shopping, but like you know, shopping shopping, shopping, you know, like where they're trying on clothes and and you're you're sitting in the women's department just looking like a weirdo, like walking around picking out They're asking you, how does this look? You're like, man, come on, can't you just like, can't you just do that at the house?

I gotta sit around here. I'm the guy sitting outside the dressing room of the girls, you know what I mean? And then you'll make yourself busy. You go walking around the women's clothes and now they're like, oh, man, gave them de grass trying on some women's clothes now, so

where you go. I'm just saying how it affects me, you know, because they're they're asking you to be there, be there, present, be not to be there present, to be present during certain things that you don't necessarily you shouldn't be privy to that process in my opinion, and that's a high maintenance thing in my opinion. To expect the guy to sit outside the dressing room super uncomfortable. I don't even get it, because why would a girl want to try on clothes in front of their guy?

Like the whole point is we want to try it on, get it, and then surprise you with it later. Like this doesn't even make sense at all, Go ahead and get in, let's have it. Sure, I'm high maintenance if that's what you're defining, but no, I want my husband look, you know, seeing me try on clothes, so I know it's what he likes. There you go, I totally agree with you. I think it's I mean, I think to

some degree in that processes tough. Well, Gavin. In most stories, they have a little seating lounge area that you can go and kind of hang out and sit on your phone. It seems to be somewhat close to the changing room or the try on room. But I do like it. Like I'm not gonna go I going shopping with my wife. I'm not going to go and pick out clothes that I want her to try on or wear. Like I

think that's creepy and high maintenance. Yes, but I do think there is some level that Danielle is talking about, like when you come out of the dressing room and less so on Amy, Like it's not a surprise where you're gonna go put it on later, like I got these black jeans. You know, it's more of like, hey, do you like you're having that? It's almost like, uh, you're at a restaurant you're having dinner, like do you like the scallops? You know, it's like, hey, do you

like the black jeans? Do you like these jeans on me? And you're like you're sitting there and you're like, hey, yeah, they look great. Look how fancy you guys? You guys still have time to go to the mall. We have clothes, like whatever it is delivered. She tries it on there, I tried on, what are you think about? And if nan, it goes back in the box that I agree with you back to kind of like got the person. Then we're trying to stay on topic of what's high maintenance

for a woman? Okay, what high maintenance for me is someone that has a some sort of like a deal breaker as to what they will or will not do. Hey, we're going to this party. Oh I'm not going there because it's so far away. Hey we're going to this party? Is so and so gonna be there? Someone that there's like, I'm not gonna do something because of one thing. It's like to me, that's super high maintenance. I'm not going to go there because it's you know, it's too far

away whatever it is. And it's like for me. You gotta be I think you gotta be flexible, and you gotta be like, listen, let's go check it out. If it's not good, we leave. But when you're like, I won't do something because of this, I think that's high maintenance. I think it's like when the list of things that they need to do something to Demetri's point or to make them happy becomes so cumbersome and becomes a chore for me to have to run through this checklist of

things to make them happy. It's high maintenance. Like that's the most concise way I could put it, which is funny because I feel I can correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like you're probably more high maintenance than your wife. I have been dubbed the metro sexual high maintenance gut in this podcast. Like it's very not my accident. Ex thank you. I mean, I guess I'm I'm maintenance because I wear You're the only one that was comfortable during the photo shoot when we had to do individual photos.

Everyone else was uncomfortable. I don't want to do this. You got up there like it was blown those clowns. Man. I know that I know that he's not high maintenance because we met up in London and we were walking around London. We met up, we had lunch, and he didn't say, I'm going to hop a car back to the hotel. I'm not gonna get a ride. I'm not gonna get it uber. He walked how many miles did you walk back? It was six miles, good, six miles

with me through the park. He texted me beforehand, but he Evan's deal Breakers and I said he likes people who walk, and so he was like, I said, that's it, okay, I'm gonna give you mine. High maintenance for me is somebody that points out something that they don't like, but we'll not do something about it. Oh I don't Oh that is so dirty or something clean the damn thing, or like this is that is so bad, We'll do

something about it. And then if they don't. Sobody that is pointing out noticeably bringing attention to something that they do not like, bringing it to your attention is not willing to do something about that. To me, that is a very maintenance. And did you categorize that sorry? Like as as asking questions of like, hey, so how are we going to get there? And what table were we going to sit at and what do you want to do afterwards? And uh for high maintenance, Yeah, go with you.

Here's the reason I bring it up is I have I have friends, like guy friends that are we go fishing where they're like, hey, well what fight are we on? And then what time is the car going to come pick us up? And then what time are we going to get on that other fight? And then what time are we gonna fish? And what's for breakfast? And you're like, dudes, to take a seat, bro, Like, yeah, I get you,

I love it, So we're not coming next time. So getting back to what you said, Brooks, you said when people point out something that they don't like but won't do anything about it. Sir, what if it was like I don't like the color of that house, Are they going to go paint that house? Paint some random details, just painting somebody else's out? The hell are you doing? Don't like the color of that house? Did something about it? Okay? Okay, here we go from k what are your real thoughts

on strip clubs? My fiance is going on his bachelor party in a few weeks and I told him I really don't feel comfortable. Am I being crazy. How would you feel if your fiance asked you not to go to the strip club? Rick, I have a question for K. Are we talking about female strip clubs or male strip good question. Let's assume she's talking about you're her fiance, You're go your bachelor parties, and and you're going to go to a female strip club. Okay, Um, that's a

great question. To be honest, I don't know if I would even bring it up with him, because at that point I look at that as that's something that Ka needs to deal with. He's gonna go regardless or not. If she says it a thousand times or one time, Hey honey, don't go to the strip club. He's gonna go if he's with his buddies, or he's gonna say, hey, you know what, guys, we're gonna go do another activity instead of that, or that's what he's doing. I feel

like it's more of K's issue. She needs to say it, and then she needs to kind of not get over it, but just understand that he can do the same thing if he flies down to Los Angeles or goes to a not a strip club. He can go to a hotel bar and and get in more trouble at a hotel bar than you can at a trip club, let's be honest. So I feel like k needs to understand that what she says may not necessarily it's affect him,

it's about how she feels about it. Well to that point, there's there's different types of people to go to strip clubs, and you think, if she's engaged to him, then she should know what type of person he has listened. I've been to strip clubs because and I don't go, I don't go by myself, but I've gone like bachelor parties like this, and it's like I find it more comical to go and watch it and have a good time with the guys or whatever, and it's less about the show.

And for while I'm on these bachelor parties, there are guys that disappear for thirty minutes to a private room and get a private lap dance or whatever. And to me, that's where you're that's where the difference is here. If Kay's fiance is going there because he's one of the guys and this is what the guys are doing for the thing, then let him you know if she's if

she's engaged to him. She's gotta have some level of trust with him, and she should say listen, I don't mind you going, but you know, i'd really like it if you didn't partake on that thing, because whatever it's demeaning to women, I think it's gross. Whatever her reasoning is, I think she can share that, but I think to stop him from from, you know, going, because it sounds if that's the point, then it's more of a trust issue. Yeah, I think that's exactly right. It comes down to do

you just k K do you trust your fiance? And if you have a trust, then it becomes off putting if you if your fiance feels like you're trying to control him, and so long as you trust him and you believe he's gonna make the right decisions, it's And I've been in the situation before where I have my buddies and will go to Vegas and we'll go to a strip club and all the guys get together and there's three guys who are like, look, our wives all talk.

So we went to the pool today, then we went to top Golf, and then we went to circ to sol Okay, are we all clear? If anybody talks that was what we did. I that stresses me out because I do not want to lie to my wife. I'd rather just be completely honest because when when I begin lying about that, it is as if I did something wrong.

And if I can just be open and honest and say like, yeah, we went to the strip club and we were there for an hour and a half and it was what it was, nothing happened, nobody did anything stupid. Why do I have to hide that? And my friends lose their mind at that. Gavin is looking at me like go ahead, I'm just saying I only go for the delicious buffet's Uh. I mean, I mean I've been. I've been to those places, man, and I typically don't really enjoy myself. Strip clubs are I get it for.

It's a bit of a hoot, you know if you go with your boys and whatever and typically a few minutes and you're like, cool, we just did that, let's let's roll. But there's always like there's always the the other stuff going on where you gotta pull your boy out, like it's go can we go out? You know, and there's always like, you know, some shipper named Lexus or whatever who's just like getting too close, you know. So uh yeah, I just I don't. I don't really love

ship clubs. Um, they're not my favorite. Um And although I did go one time. Uh, and we had my brother's dog with us, and he's a little French bulldog and of course, you know, our buddy put put tip money in his collar and he'd walk up, you know, the colonel would jog up on stage and you know, the girls like, oh, he's so cute, you know, And that was pretty funny bringing the dog. Now that that was that was the highlight of that whole element though.

That was the top for me. Um. But I'm not a real fan of the environment typically speaking, because it seems in general they're they're so in general, there's such a desperate sensation when you walk into the place, you know, and it's a bit overwhelming, and uh it's just like it's just gross. So it's just too too heavy, the desperation in the air and a lot of that in a lot of those places. I do get it for fifteen minutes with your boys, because it's more like it's nutty,

it's crazy in here, look at this scene. But then it's sort of like, all right, cool, I'm can we get out of here, now, you know what I mean? And my the best time I ever had in a strip club was that type of situation. I went in and I just you know, I laughed whatever it was for the guy that was married whatnot. But at the table next to me, whatever next to us was. It was like a cocktail setting and the guy had ordered

he was by himself. He ordered this expensive bottle of scotch and then he proceeded to pass out at the table. So we just kept filling our glasses with his expensive bottle of scotch. And well, we asked the We did ask the waitress, and she was like, he comes in here all the time, he has so much money whatever. So she basically gave the green light. So we had a couple of the nice glass of scotch and got out of there. Okay, so let's go back to Kay's

final part of her question. How would you feel if your fiance or wife gentleman asked you not to go? Real quick, how would you feel, Rick, if your wife asked you not to go on your buddies or your bachelor I would take her her point and and then you know, obviously have that in the back of my mind. But again, I I feel like it's more about k and less about the guy Dmitri. Yeah, I would. I would be disappoin in it because I would feel like

she thought something could go wrong. Yeah, Bryan, I would say. I would say, I I hear you, I understand you don't want me to go. But I would still feel like I make my own decision whether I choose to or not. But um, I would listen to her and then make my own decision. Let me ask you, So you on the road for hockey? Was that a common thing and how often was that happen? Actually, probably more uncommon than people actually realize. In my entire life, I've

maybe been in six strip clubs, like very little. I really don't enjoy the experience that much. Eighteen dollar drinks. First time I was every in one was in New York. I was twenty years old and I was making Prior to this, I just got my first professional paycheck. Prior to that, I was making eighty nine bucks every two weeks. And my buddy and I went into this strip club and we sat down and ordered two drinks from this waitress, and it was like fifty two dollars and I was like,

what am I doing here? Like? What am I doing? So? But that being said, I want to make my own decisions whether I go or not. Um, but I would listen to what my wife had to say. But I wouldn't if she told me not to go. That would probably cause an issue. I'll say what we should tell her if she ever says not to go, say but Gavin's dancing tonight. And then she said, last question of the day is from Veronica? What makes a girl one of the guys? Can I lead with us? Can I

answer this one? Don't try and be one of the guys. I don't. I don't. I do not want my wife to be one of the guys. I spent my life in a locker room full of twenty three dudes. I was not looking for another dude in my life. So I love that my wife knows nothing about sports and that when I went home from the rank that it was completely different. My advice do not try and be one of the guys. Can I interject real quick if you're fiance, wife, girlfriend, whatever. At the time, I was like, Hey,

I know you're going to about your party. It's totally cool to go to a strip club, I don't care. Like to me, I would say that's awesome, Like then I don't have to have that stress of hers saying don't go to the strip club. To kind of go back to another question that we were answering, like to me, that's kind of being one of the dudes of like, hey, yeah, I trust you. I know it's more of a trust thing, but like go ahead, like I'd be like cool, Okay, gentlemen,

do you think a girl man? Do you think a girl should be one of the guys? Uh? Not if she wants not if she wants to date me. I mean, that's not what I'm into, you know. So, um, I do understand tomboy element, you know, tomboy type girls. You know, I have hung out with tomboy type girls in the past. Depending Um, but I wouldn't say one of the guys,

you know what I mean. But there are some girls who I know who are cool, like some bartender people and and that world, you know what I mean, who are just kind of like they've they've just been around the dating scenes so much that interacting with a man is no different than interacting with a woman because they just do so much socializing from behind the bar, you know, when you go into it, into some kind of joint and there's just this girl behind the bars, like, Hey,

what's up man? What can I get you? Blah blah blah blah, and they're just shooting it like that. Do you know what I mean? And so I do understand kind of that approach to when a girl is one of the guys and when you meet women like that, I kind of see a girl being kind of like one of the guys because they're not seeing any gender there. There's no boy girl interaction. It's just that's exactly right,

you know what I'm saying. Can you be one of the guys but have a sexual Are you traction or I'm automatically as being one of the guys in the friend zone? Friends, you can be one of the guys in the friend zone. Like for me personally, as a guy, I'm not you know, I'm not looking for I'm not looking for the big league chewing. Uh you know, you know you know what I'm saying. I'm not looking for like a woman who dips and spits and um, that's

just for me personally. You know, you said it a few weeks ago when we were talking about do you find um face hair on women attractive or unattractive? And you said, I want the opposite of my ideal woman is the opposite complete? So what about what paul acids sort of a follow up to this? Can you give your opinion on women who have male best friends and the predicament that this puts them in when they start

a new relationship and vice versa. I think Rick kind of started to touch on it, maybe, but so I don't think that's an issue. I don't either, but some people do. These guys might or or their significant other can feel threatened when a man has a very close relationship with a woman man, you know. But sorry, I'm chiming but I know I'm chiming in. But you know, I've got really really close girlfriends. They're they're just cool.

You just they're buddies ears, you know. And I used to think that there couldn't ever be possibly any element of a man being just friends with a woman. I used to think that. I don't think that any longer. I really think that there is a there is a place that exists, whatever that spaces in the universe where a guy and a girl could be great friends and literally literally have zero sexual energy, absolutely none, because I

have that with with girl friends of mine. There's just they're just really good friends of mine, you know what I mean. That's something I've loved about moving to l A is that's now president in my life. That's something I loved about being married is that my friendships with girls have blossomed and I love I have friends, female friends that I absolutely love as friends and cannot wait to hang out with. So this, uh, who is the person asked us? Paul asked this question? Does she have

a guy friend? They might just be fantastic friends. So you can bet you can be friends and be respectful still to your significant other. Now here's a question I agree with that you can you can be friends with someone that have no sexual chemistry or no interest whatever. Now does it become a problem. Let's say, would Brooks

would your wife? Would Juliane have a problem if you were really close friends with a girl and you kind of got advice from her or you got you know, well, if it came down to, well, she's my best friend and you know she she thinks this looks good, and Julian's like, I donol like, is there a problem? Sex aside? Is it more like, could it be an issue if you're getting advice from something or you turned to a best friend who's a girl to get advice or for

whatever whatever it may be. Would that would that get julianson in relation to my wife, like about something going on between my wife and I? No, no, no, I mean I guess there's that too. If you have a best friend that's who you talked to about stuff. And I know it's tough because your wife, I assume is your best friend. But if you have a really close friend that's that's the opposite sex. Does it become an issue if you start like would the other person get jealous?

If if you started going to them or relying on them, or they were the ones that you just kind of called and went to grab a drink with. To be honest, I can't even I don't know. I don't I honestly can't answer it. Dmitri. I don't know. It's I'm trying to put myself in that headspace, but I'm not. It hasn't happened in my life. Um So I really can't answer your questions. Anybody somebody else No. So so with

Gavin the story that you were just setting up. Do you think that there are times when the females that you describe having a perfectly platonic relationship with that you believe it's a mutual thing, But were you to express that you wanted it to be more than they that they've been holding it back because they're fearful that you know that you just view them as a platonic friend and that I mean, are you asking if that's a possibility, Yeah,

because I think sometimes both sides, the other side wishes that it was more, but they're terrified at ever voicing that because it would ruin such an amazing friendship. I mean, that's valid, that's a that's a possibility somewhere in there. But it's, um, I mean, it's certainly nothing that I would It's nothing that I would say is dominating the relationship,

you know. I mean, I'm perfectly capable of having a friend, and I think the people that I'm friends with the opposite sex are perfectly capable of just having a friend and would rather maintain that stable platonic relationship than risk any discomfort and and uh, cross over that line because the friendships are so strong and um, you know, For me personally, I'd rather have those friendships friendships because they take years to develop those friendships and they're worth that.

It's such an investment of your time and emotionally that you wouldn't ever want to even I personally wouldn't ever want to even put that at risk. You know very well, said my friend man on that. We'll leave it at that. We always look forward to you guys this question. So we're here to serve you guys, answer anything we can. And so like we said at the top of the show, you can reach us at men at I heart radio dot com with your questions and then also on Instagram

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