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and we've got Ryan here with us. And Dimitri has fired up about something. He has a burning topic. We're not We're not sugarcoating this one. We're getting into the heat right now. What is it, buddy? Here's the thing. Our producer Amy came to us, she said on an email and said, how do you guys, how do you finish off going to the bathroom? So I said, and I said, well, what do you mean? I said? She said, when you're sitting down? I said, if this is the

way I'm thinking, I said, I used toilet. We're talking about number two yea as much as any And she said, okay, well, here's the thing we'd like to try new products. And and I'm reading and I said, and she said, we we have some white bees that you can use instead of in lieu of toilet paper. And I said, And before I could even say what I had to say, Ryan and Rick responded and they're like, we'll try him. So I don't know that that's something there, guys, apparently

some deep seated thing like I don't know. I'm I'm old fashioned. There's toilet paper. There's been no need to change it. So I've used it, so that's what I do. But these two were clearly having trouble there and wanted to delve in to try something new. So my understanding is that you guys receive some of these these flushable wipes and and give it a go. It's a flushable wipe of white one called dude wipes, dude white more likely to try. Dude wipes are pretty good, you know.

I And thank you Dmitri. I I kind of you know. I had always seen him in the bathroom always we go to Alaska, we go fishing, they are always up there, and I never used him, and I was always like, I wonder why, Like and I'm a very sort of particular guy. When going number two, Um, I build before you sensing a new song coming on here, I build what they call it Texas top hat, I believe, which is basically, does anybody know what anybody know what this is? So you make hats and out we're living. It's a

Texas top hat. You basically take the toilet paper and you put it over the toilet seat before you go and sit down, even at home. At home, I just got a brand new toilet. Why I used it because your kids on the seat. I like the warmth, it's soft. It's just a very nice place to kind of rants. And then if you ever run out, maybe diapers are more of you. Well, if you ever run out of the toilet paper, you always know you have, you know about four or five maybe eight different Probably that's probably

why you run out, because you already used eight of them. Dude, if you're in a bar and you like have to go for some reason, you want to build a little nest on the thing. Fine, but you're building a nest on office's home in college. Does not matter. I've I've been building it for a long time. It takes a stop hat. So when the dude wipes came up, I was raised my hand. I'm like, I gotta do this, not to put him down. I already have that method sealed. But he sat down. I was like, you know, I've

seen these things and I want to try it. Well, you know, get down there, go and I start pulling out the dude wipes and I'm sitting there and I'm kind of like, oh, this is a little weird. It's not as comfortable. I actually did not like him as much as I thought I would. I thought it would be you know, clean, swift, good, ready to go, but it was small, wet, just not a skiss comfortable as I would have liked, you know, sort of like this conversation not as comfortable as I would have liked. Where's

the food get here? I can't believe that you do

it at home, though. I get it when you're in a public place, you don't know who's been on that seat, but like it's you're doing it for warmth at home another other thing I do, you know, so like like right before the toilet, there's like drips of p or whatnot, So I'll pull the toilet paper or a paper from you know, from previous maybe at the office or in a public restaurant or whatever, and I'll wipe that down and then slide that to the corner and then build that.

I got a bathroom at my house. You mind coming over in my place for a little while. Do you have like a handy belt on that you come into every stall with that you have like apparatus and sprays. I feel like he's gonna end up on her. He's getting enough on like shark tank with some sort of bathroom invention. I'm afraid I'm gonna be in a bathroom one time and I'm here knock at the door, and it's gonna be rick Like. I have some wipes if

you need, I'm here for you. But I will share an experience I did go to I go to Tokyo quite a bit for work, and they obviously are kind of the king of the day's and all of the you know, the high end toilet seats. And I built my little Texas and I was sitting there and I was like, I don't even need to put the Texas top hat on because this seat is warm. Yeah, there's You probably stayed in some of these hotels, like traveling hotels that have cleaner Oh yeah, they're dynamite those. Yeah,

the button. Someone comes by and thanks you for staying at the hotel and they wipe you for you. Correct, correct, Yeah, I don't. I have yet to stay at a place where that exists. But so, yeah, so I tried the wipes. I actually wasn't a big fan of it. It was a little small in the hand as I like, kind of the you know whatever, and uh, it was a little moist and not as good as I like. So that is it because you have large hands? It maybe yeah, maybe, Okay,

right now, second, you're hung up on it. So after you use this thing, the wet thing, do you follow it up with the dry thing or do you just in this swampy That's a great question. Yeah. No, I did not want to walk out of there and still kind of have the otherwise. Otherwise you gotta go to the hand dryer and just kinda back back it up against it. So he has a hair dryer in his belt.

That Ryan. What are your thoughts on experience like deals with some of my neuroses, Which is the first thing I said to Amy, as I said I'm reading the back, are these definitely fleshable? Because if I ruined my plumbing at my house and I have to get a plumber in here. That's going to be an issue. It's not worth it to me. She assured me that I'm being

neurotic and it's all good. The bigger thing for me, I have a friend who swears by them, which is partly why I jumped at the opportunity to have them sent to me. And he said. The analogy he gave me was like, look, if you got mud on your arm, would you use a dry paper towel to get it off? Or would you use a wet paper tality could agree more? And I thought that was a relatively astute observation. Mud or dry mud wet by nature. There's no such thing

as dry mud. Dry mud is dirt that just blew your mind, wipe it off, and mud you gotta get the mud off, but then you gotta cleaning something, and a dry piece of paper is not going to clean. So so just saying, my so have you been? Are you converting? Now? Are you a dude? Way? You never really asked me my opinion, I thought, okay, right now, okay. The one thing I was gonna say is when you're in a public the time you would need it most

for me is not when you're at home. It's when you're in an away toilet, and when you're in a way toilet. If you're in an office environment, the last thing you're gonna do is get up from your desk and walk down the office corridor with the dude wipes in your hands. So so you advertise to everybody in the office that you're going to drop a deuce in the through them. So I think I would need a

travel size, pocket friendly Fannie pack. It's something that you could slip into your pocket and be discreet when you go out there, or if this catches on, restrooms will just supply them. Well, that's the thing that sounds like toilet paper kind of monopolizes the whole thing. That's that's maybe you're in on shark tank. Correct, that's right, Fannie pack, a dude white dispensary for restaurants in airports. Someone's gonna steal that. Giving a percentage of that coming. You've got

Mark Cuban written all over it. I'm sure you can get it at the duty free. Dude. What's that? What's that line from anchor man? This really escalated quickly, all right, I haven't tried it. I don't know. I don't know if I'm willing to try it, but I think it's more prominent I've heard. I actually was listening to podcast where they were talking about this the other day, So

I think it's actually more prominent than we probably know. Yeah, I guess the argument would be, you shower with water, right, you're cleaning yourself off with something wet. Nobody get clean something wet. Correct. You don't just put a towel on your body, So that would be the argument. I'm a believer. I'm staying, Danielle, can we get can we get Gavin some dude wipes? And I don't want him right now? Now? Well, and then you can try him out. We're gonna on

the show. We're gonna test a lot of products, so I appreciate you stepping up to this one right here. Hey, it's Brooks like and it is how men think we have Gavin, Dmitri, Rick and Ryan. We're we're taping this right now in Oakland, California, where we're away from Los Angeles, and Ryan is away from his wife and the two year old boy and the baby on the way, and he's dealing with a little bit of guilt. Let's get into this. So look, we're wearing it all out here,

are we not. It's just not this. I was this is a safe place because because I'm getting a look from Gavin that is like he doesn't approve of this, and it's very off. Let's call it a safe place from now. I was told to judgment free zone, but okay, call it a safe place from now. Tell the story and then we'll decide out. Okay. So, so I had an issue and have an issue currently, which is that I have about five hairs unibrow hairs that continue to

grow back. Then my wife is like, this is a bad look, like she would pluck them because she said it's a bad look. And eventually she gave me as a gift a laser treatment in l A. I went to this this laser clinic, went and sat in the waiting room and there are about fifteen women getting bikini line lasers. I was the only guy. Luckily, this Armenian guy with like a sweater vest of chest hair came in after me. But I have gotten one procedure done of laser on my in between my eyebrows. Amazing, dude,

I have one like black one. My hair is brown and I have one black one that just grows right there and have to like pluck it up. It doesn't matter, it's one had just pluck it. What do you because the rest of your life, Like if you can just do away with it and be done with it, it'll never grow your you know what. I actually would do a laser on. I'd like to actually do it on the back of my hair so when I get a haircut,

it stays clean whole time. So maybe like next time I get a haircut, I'll go somewhere and get it laser anywhere you recommend? Where'd you go? Was it good? You're looking for a place you cut? Place you do they do? Do? They do the back? Yeah? They do everything. I mean they When I walked in, they the guy that was behind me, they had like an industrial sized laser beam thing like but for me, it took literally ten seconds like five zapps and I was out. Really

can't think. Can they come into it? Like, I don't want to truck down to a laser place? What do you that's what are your laser at? First? What are you laser in? I don't know. I got a few strangely things on my shoulders. I guess I could take care of it, but I mean I don't. I'm not a I don't feel like I need to do it, But I guess if it never grows back, but what's to say it won't go back right next to it? So, Gavin, do you have have you ever plucked any hairs on

your grab? It's perfect right here, very funny. Uh probably, I'm sure I've done this before, but nothing comes out, you know, at the center between my eyebrows. But um, he's looking for a laser that grows hair. Be So here's a question. Well, we all know that fashions change, right, styles change. It's always a moving target, essentially culturally speaking,

music fashion change, religions change, politics, ex change. What if, somewhere down the line, let's say it's within our lifetimes, Anthony Davis, it becomes in readibly attractive to have a couple of hairs in between your two eyebrows, and you're like, damn, I wish I could get those back. What are you gonna do about that? The technology will already exists, like to get a hair transplant and have them plugged in. Think about the people that reverse it. Think about the

people that threw something away, buddy. Somebody threw away an old album, right, obviously not one of yours. They throw away an old album, someone bought it on eBay and may or sold it on eBay and made a fortune. Right. So to Gavin's point, all of a sudden, it's like, this is the hottest thing to have a unibrow. It's not going to be Anthony and Anthony Davis from the NBA. That's what makes them attractive. Oh, I didn't say it was. Well, I'm assuming that's where you're going. Okay, But women do

it like on their arm everywhere weekly. The same be said for them. But what if their car stalls in a cold climate and they need to grow that hair back and there they are freezing? Do you do a lot fear in your life? Like you live a lot of hope, a little bit of everything? Gentlemen, you I love your hypothetical, dude. I love that we went from from Ryan's eyebrow, who was stalled car in Minnesota. You never know. Let's say you're at the Mall of America and it's a giant storm. I wish, I wish I

could grow hair stuck that morning. Man, Let's talk about another issue that you raised, Ryan, UM, set this one up for us. We're talking about and this is I think a real issue for men and women. Um, you call it man guilt. Can you explain to Ustin to

our listeners what man guilt is. I think Rick is the expert in this territory, but I will tell you that, Yeah, there's an element of whenever I go away and my wife is home with go away on work or like vacation or well to very astute question, thank you, Uh, I would say when you go away. When I go away and work, the man guilt is lessoned because I am away for work and I'm earning money for the

family and and and all that. But if I go away on pleasure with buddies, then the man guilt is that much more because she's home taking care of our son, you know, dealing with the brunt of of motherhood essentially, while I'm off having a good time. So you have to kind of temper the when you were laying back how things are going, it's I feel guilty saying like I'm having an amazing time. Can't lie to her and say it sucks. I can't wait to come home, and I knew you were going to be the one time

here and can't you do that? I think, yes you can? And have you done that? I've that's gonna add to his guilt if he's now lying to it. He's away and he's lying, that's just gonna Do you feel better about your relationship by lying with her by saying I'm having a bad time versus you worried that she's going to be almost jealous of you for having a great time and therefore sparing her the competitive sort of angst regarding you having time off from the interesting thing is

I bring this on myself. If I were to tell her I'm having an amazing time, she would genuinely be happy that I'm having an amazing time and making them great? What do you feel so bad about it? So? Why why do you do that? Because I feel guilty that she's at home not having a great time? So about her is about you? Is about her not having a great time or that you're having a great time? I don't think my brain can comprehend with that. Can I

tell you? I used to have I used to have this man guilt, and what I finally came to a point where I realized if I didn't do these things, if I if I felt bad when I went away for work, or if I went away from my buddy's birthday and we went to Vegas or whatever it is and I felt bad about it, or if I didn't go for some reason, which I think is a mistake. To not do those things. I think you need to give your family, at your work, your friends, the best

version of yourself. And if you stay home and you don't do these things, then you're gonna be grumpy. You're gonna be the you're not giving your wife. Then then you're gonna be like, you're gonna have more fights in this. The thing is give her the opportunity to do it, to let her say, hey, listen, go away, have fun with your friends, have a weekend or whatever it is. Let her do it, to show her that there's nothing

wrong with it. And then when you do it, it's it's okay because because you're sharing now, and it's like and she needs it just like you need it. If you don't do these things, you're not gonna be the same with your wife. You're not gonna be the same with your kids. There was a time where um, I hadn't gone away, and then I started traveling for work a little bit and my my, you know, kids were like whatever, my my, my, you know. Youngest was like, I don't know. She's a small girl, she's like two

one and a half. Of the time, she didn't really she paid more attention to my mother in law and my wife and I went away to New York for a week for work, and I came back and she has been daddy's a little girl ever since. And it's like there's a dynamic that changes. Sometimes you have to mind people what they have or what they're, what there is, and you have to be the best version of yourself and bring that back because that's gonna chave you if you don't go and it gets stay on on this

that then then you're not helping anybody. You've never have been times that I've gone away when when milestones occur in my with my son that I'm away for when it's like he's now taking his first steps or he said his first word, and that's that makes you feel tremendously guilty. I get I understand that. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, don't go away on his birthday? Yeah, trip on Yourn's actual birthday. How do you know if you missed it, that it happened at all and it wasn't a ploy

to make you feel that you work so suspicious. That's that's deep because his wife to him that, how do we know? It's weird? Because when I got home, my wife had told me he had taken his first steps and he was not walking, and she said he just decided not to walk anymore. It's yeah, you're right, You're right. Can I nailed it? You nailed it? Trust she has

the video proof. The other thing I think about the guild is like you're vested with that person, that relationship, whether it's a work relationship or a marriage or a friendship or whatever. And if you walk away or technically speaking, or you're going on a trip or whatever, you're breaking that.

You know, maybe it's with a team, or maybe when you left hockey, or maybe it's whatever that is, Like maybe you felt I don't know the circumstances, but maybe you're like I feel guilty, you know, signing that contract with the such and such team, right, you know, like I, But but reality is is to Dmitri's point is you do need to do things that make you a healthier person and a help and a happier person. And I think overall that will make the whole situation dynamic better.

So I agree with you. I exactly agree with what you said and what Dmitri said. So when I was released by the l A Kings, I was playing in town, finally living at home. My wife and I had done long distance for three and a half years. I was playing hockey in d C in Toronto. She's living in l A. So we've done a long distance like that for three and a half years. Finally I'm playing in l A for the King's life is amazing. I'm playing hockey and at home. Then the King's released me and

I had a decision to make. Do I want to go somewhere else again and be away from home and continue to play hockey, or do I want to stay at home? And I chi it was my decision. My wife was like, I support you, and whatever you want to do. You want to go to Carolina, you want to go to Florida, wherever you want to go play. I support you. You know, I love you and I want you to have the career that you want. So I support you and God bless her for that, and I made the decision I do not want to be

away from my wife. As much as I wanted to play hockey, which is at an all time high, it just got better every day. My desire to be with my wife was on a daily basis, was greater than my desire to play hockey. It doesn't discount my desire to play hockey. UM. So I do agree with that that um and it was my decision. I wanted to be with her, So I'm at peace with that decision.

But I also agree with what Dmitri said in a little bit of that you can't miss somebody if they don't leave, you know, so like missing somebody in a relationship is a powerful thing. Like if I'm gone for a couple of days, my wife misses me, and I miss my wife, and that's an attraction to come back home to so and I also want to have a fantastic time while I'm here with you guys. Come home and share some energy and stories with her, and she

sees this. This, this lights me up. And also that distance from each other makes us gravitate towards each other. So if you don't go, as Demitri said, if you don't leave. Amy's ready to pipe in on this. What is it? I think men feel guilty when they're being selfish because you're taught don't be selfish, don't be selfish, don't be selfish. But being selfish isn't always bad. So, especially in the workplace, you sometimes feel guilt over making

certain decisions because you're looking out for number one. But sometimes it's okay. And I'd love to hear what you guys think about that. I agree with that. I I'm an advocate for people to be selfish in their life as far as what makes them happy. Now, that doesn't mean step on people, that doesn't mean hurt people, that doesn't mean but it means you have one life to live here in charge of it. Nobody else is going

to do it for you. Something that's going to fulfill you and light you up by all means, go do it please. And I hate when people turned down the thermostat on their life to accommodate other people. And especially if you have a the right partner, maybe there's a litmus test for the right partner in your life. Is Ryan If you go away and you said I had the most amazing time babe, this is awesome, and she says, that's awesome. When I tell me more, I want to

hear all about it. That's the right partner. If you have somebody that says, how dare you be away? Blah blah blah, that's maybe the wrong partner for you. That's how I look at it. My wife and I we travel a lot for work, both of us um and celebrate the opportunity to go and do these things that each of us have the greatest life we could imagine, and we support one another in doing it. But we are being selfish in a way by doing it, but we are connection is strong enough and we communicate well

enough that it's not an issue. You guys, what do you think? Yeah, that makes sense. I mean I agree. I mean, you're here, You've got four kids at home, you're here. What's what's your wife thinking? We're in Oakland right now. It's and that was the thing. It's like, I said, hey, listen, I'm going up to Oakland. Um we're gonna do the podcast from up there. And she said, okay, great. She's very supportive. In fact, the night before I left,

she had to go to Colorado or something. So you know, we told the kids it's you know, mommy's away tonight and I'm here and then tomorrow night I'm gonna be away, and it's like and you know, that's just that's the way it is. And I think you have to be supportive of each other. And when you don't, when you start having whatever jealousy like, oh, you went to visit

too for your friends, you know, birthday or whatever. If you have jealousy about somebody, about your partner having fun and doing stuff that makes I'm happy, then that's not that's not a healthy relationship. And there's an issue. There's a deep, you know, underlying issue there. If you're if things that make your partner happy don't make it doesn't make you happy that they're happy, that's that there's a problem. I can't give you a perspective of someone who doesn't

have children. Yes, sir, let's have it. Not married um, single man. Yeah, you want me to put that out for I'll put that out for it for you body, very single, very eligible. But it's gonna be about a woman missing you in every city. No, it's not about that. It's it's for me. Uh. When I think about this conversation, I hear. Your perspectives are all valid, They're all important, right to each of you. That are important. Uh as the person who doesn't have a family, Um, it's important

to me as well. Uh for I guess from this sort of preventative angle which has been so here, I am. I'm a I'm an adult, I'm not married, I don't I don't have children. But I think a large part of me delaying that game in my life essentially that that element of what I would consider what makes it a full life is that I know what my job entails and the amount of travel that it entails, and I always felt like I wouldn't have time for that. And so I until I feel like I have time

for that. Uh as far as fatherhood is concerned, um, I've always felt like I won't be ready for that. And so you know, I'm somebody who grew up in a lower middle class household. Um my dad was a prison guard, my mom was a dtox specialist, and so you know, we didn't have really money, but my dad

was there every day. So until I feel like I could match that, which I may not be able to ever do, because I mean, like I mean, if you're read the Odyssey, right, So so sort of how it sort of sums up this this uh, this life challenge of of of a young man to try to try to live up to the image of his father, which ultimately, as we all know, is the impossible in so many ways. The stories that you hear from a lot of dads.

Of course, not not all dads are great, but a lot of guys who grow up knowing their fathers, they paint this picture of their father that is absolutely and you can't master it, you can't possibly live up to it, I'm sure, the same way that some women with you

their mothers. And so because I felt like I wouldn't be able to live up to that and be the father my dad has been for me, uh, it's made me sort of put that on the back burner and in a lot of ways sort of put that element of life on hold, because even though you guys are celebrating great lives and full lives, I hear the struggle that you have and and it's something that I understand is valid, valid, uh level of anks for for anybody.

You know that in six situations. But to that point, not that I'm telling you run out and get married and have kids. But keep in mind, I don't think when when my dad for everything he meant to me and everything that I that, I think he was such a great dad and he did this, and I don't think he ever sat there and thought, oh my god, I'm being this is look at me, I'm being a great dad. I've got it all put together. I'm here all the time. Listen. I like, I don't think that

I'm always there for my kids. I try and be as much as I can. But when I see them, I know that they don't. They don't look at me and think, oh, he's never around. He's I don't think my dad was ever like, look at me. I got it all figured out. This is the perfect the perfect situation just fell upon me. So keep that in mind when you're like, I want to make sure that I'm there for your kids. You'll be there, but it doesn't

mean constantly being there. So can I gab I ask you a question because this is coming from somebody who my twenties to thirties, I was intensely devoted to my career as an athlete, didn't have the capacity or composure to welcome a relationship really into my life. So I know what you're talking about. Um, that switched when I met and I actually switched personally in me a little bit once I hit about UM, I developed a little more composure and growth personally, and I met my wife

just at the right time in my life. But in your life, what do you think that looks like, that moment where maybe you do have that capacity to bring on a serious relationship and a potential life partner or kids. Do you have an idea of what that might look like?

Given your career as an artist, a traveling artist touring, UM, you know, I sort of fantasize about what it could look like, what it should look like, you know, sort of like these uh I think we've all been sort of brought up on these uh the with these these these romance novel versions of what perfect looks like. And as we all know, it's simply entertainment a lot of

those stories and they are the life is imperfect. But we all sort of have been told what perfect should look like, at least in many different versions of what perfect should look like. UM. So of course I have all of those those fantastical con steps of what it should look like, right, but what it could look like. Are two different things right and what it should could look like? Do you think this should look like? Is limiting you a little bit? Like trying to fit something

into this? So and so I've gotten and as you know, about a year and a half ago, my mom had passed, and so that sort of just sent everything just spinning, you know, for me, just absolutely spinning. Um. So it became much more sort of a reminder of of, uh, you never know when it's going to happen, you know what I mean, like how long your life is going to be in these things? So it's some elements of me or think sees sees the moment go out and just have the greatest time and go crazy or whatever.

And of course there's an other element, which is you know you're not going to be here forever and have a family and make something in you know, the image of yourself, of your father, of your mother, etcetera. So I have an idea of what it like I said it should look like, but this sort of, uh, the the the high wall of what what what you're up against in in in s like um, just speaking from personal experience, I'm actually excited for you and I'm excited

to get to know you more and follow your journey. Um, and it's gonna be surprising when it think when it does happen, it's gonna be surprising and awesome. I never thought I would marry an American girl. I thought the rest of my life, i'd go back to Canada. I'd live back in Saskatchewan. Um, maybe coach hockey back there, something like that. Now I'm living in Los Angeles doing a podcast with you guys, married to an American girl who is a dancer, an artist, where I was a

sports guy. I mean, it's amazing. I once had a good friend tell me, if you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans, and and it was so true. It ranks so true. I thought I had my life laid out, this is the way it was gonna go. And then one day somebody walked into my life. Julianne walked into my life and changed everything. So, UM, be open. My only advice to you would be open to things that you aren't seeing. Um. I thought my life was going one way, and man, did it go the other way.

And I'm so grateful for that. Said yeah, well, said, so we're in agreement. We should all go to Vegas. Rick, you call Ryan's mom wife and let her maybe ye get Vegas. But a horrible time you're having with us in Vegas. The one thing I do want to add to that is my brother, who's five years older than me. He kind of paved the path for myself and my sister and whatnot and kind of set the bar pretty highs. But I had kids a lot earlier than he did. Um.

He has a three year old now. But I felt like as we were going getting into the age that we are now, he was sort of always concerned about lining up his ducks. You know. He was like, I gotta make enough money, I gotta have the right house I got, you know, or whatever. Um. And I think once he had the kid, he was kind of like, oh, okay, good like. And I kept telling him like, dude, just do it, like, don't worry about it. You know, like you don't know what the kids, you know, you don't

know how that's gonna work for you know. I mean, it's a whole Once you have that child, it's a whole another deal. It's a whole another ball game, you know, especially between you and the kid and you and your wife, you know, and whatnot. And so there's all these new dynamics, but it's like, you know, I want to just encourage him, like don't wait and go like have one because it is really the best thing ever to have a kid,

a girl, boy, whatever, you know. And it's it's, uh, you know, it's you never know what life's gonna wright you. You know, I think that's to Brooks's point, it's cool right on, This is how men think. And on this show we have opened it up to your to our listeners, will always have it open to our listeners. We want to know questions, insight, comment from you guys. You can email us at men at I Heart radio dot com. And we have a question right now. We're gonna call

this segment is really like ask us anything. We're an open source for you guys, men and women, ask us anything. But we're going to call it a little more of a fun name. Um. That's what he said is what we're gonna go with for this segment. So Danielle, our producer, has a question for us. All right, So this comes from Jessica, and Jessica is asking from a man's perspective, how are you guys affected by a woman's kind ecological?

Oh my god, rewind. This is from Jessica and she is asking from a man's perspective, how are guys affected by a woman's kindacological? Oh my god, sin ecological. I can't do the word. Oh my god. Okay, gin ecological? Okay, Okay, here I know, I got okay. This is from Jessica and she is asking from a woman's perspective, how are you guys affected by a women's issues such as endometriosis, p MS, etcetera. I'll touch on the endometriosis when my

wife openly has admitted and has endometriosis. UM, God, bless her heart. She does a lot of UM trying to raise awareness for women to find out if they have it. And I think it's a last episode. I believe one in ten women have endometriosis. And can you explain what that is? UM? I really don't know. I should have more UM, but it it essentially can make getting pregnant naturally a little more difficult. That it's something to do

with UM. Oh, Eastern's got it, Easton has it. It can be siss on the so she does have siss on over that. I don't. I'm not I don't know how much I want to get into this exactly. And my wife has it too. Um. And first of all, it's incredibly difficult to get diagnosed. Yeah, the hell of the time finding a doctor that knew what it was. It's it sists on your uterus, and it causes intense pain. Um, just all kinds of discomfort. She had to have an

like an incision and some was that lacroscopic surgery. Yeah, to to have them remove it. They just can come back. It's horrible. So and and it can be unpleasant or uncomfortable during a course. Um. But for me, I mean, I love my wife. This is nothing. This has no bearing at all on our relationship or on like I understand that her body. She didn't choose to get it, she didn't do anything to get it. She has indometriosis. We move forward with it. So we've done. We talked

about it last episode. We did uh IVF and froze some of her eggs in case we do have trouble getting pregnant naturally. Um. But fully accepting of my partner of my wife, absolutely love her and we'll move forward and whatever comes our way in life comes our way. So for me, that's a non issue. May I be so bold and ask the question that women all want to know. But it's a bold one for you guys. Do you care about period sex? Would that stop you? This is one for Gavin, gav buddy, and tell the truth.

That's what this is. So tell the truth. So if it's a no, we can handle it. We can handle it. Thank you, Gavin. I think Dmitri, Okay, here's the thing I'm not. I'm not again, I've done it. Um. I think it's more preferable to be to the very beginning or the very end of the period cycle. Um. But you know, I think it's a good thing when you're with someone that that regardless of the time, you guys kind of want to be together. So if it happens to be in the middle, then you know, you know

what to deal with it. I mean, obviously something. I think that. So just so we can educate them, Daniel, will you jump in here. It's not the middle you want. The middle is the worst part. But I tell you Day one is pretty light. I said, the beginning or the end Day two and three, nobody wants to be doing it. But day like four or five, you barely would know. I mean, this is supposed to be it's not as comfortable from a man's perspective, it's it's does

not the sensation is not as enjoyable. Yeah, from my perspective is that the time of the month when men should be planning their fishing trip. Oh, we'll look you there, I gotta buy. What do you guys say? Personally? I mean, from the beginning of when I first met my wife, there's nothing that grosses me out. So it's like, it is what it is. There's there is literally nothing that

could gross me out a thousand percent. We can find something it goes I'm saying with respect to my sex life with my wife, like, there's not I've never been grossed out by any of that. It's like a fact of life, and it is what it is. And I

can't agree with Brooks though. It's a total different sensation, is what I you know, it's it's not not the same, so, you know, quite frankly to me, it's a no, you know, I'd rather wait the whatever you're waiting anyway, I will say this, I don't know if I'm wrong on this one, but and maybe we need producer Danielle or producering me to wait in on this. I feel like towards towards the end or maybe after you guys feeling a little

bit more of it. Are you feeling like you kind of want to You're a little friskier two days before. It's like whoa, And then the problem is we're actually friskier during the days you don't want to do it. It's really weird. It's like it's God's punishment maybe because it's like that's when we really want it, but we don't want to do it because do you know what

I'm saying? Because I don't want to do it on those days, like when I look at the calendar and I know I got like a vacation with somebody, and you literally go, can you bleet me? Because you're so bummed that the calendar just screwed you? And so we don't want to do it either. I don't know. I can't from the calendar. I get my wife and I did long distance for three and a half years, and sometimes it just lined up like that just because those are the only days that we could make work with

my schedule or her schedule. UM, So I get it that it's um that being said, I mean, you know it's it's not my first choice. Um, but I've, as Demitri said, have done it and um, but it's also just a great time to get some damn good sleep to you. Like, just just get some good sleep in there. Okay. So the second question we have is from Amy Pass, and our question is how come when we text you three questions you only respond to one of them? We

prioritize the most important. I don't know, we can't figure all three out. I mean, why are you sending three rapid questions? Like why don't you just if you pick a question, ask it and then we'll answer it. And like why is this like the lightning round? Like send us a question, we'll answer, Like pretend your text is a conversation, Amy, you're a horrible texter. You will write hey in the text, next, got next, a question next, and it's like just hey, slow it down, think it through.

Ask us a question and we'll answer, and then ask the next one. But if you sent three questions, it's like it doesn't seem genuine, like do you really want the answer? You're just trying to like, I don't know, we'll give you an answer, but that's that's a lot, so you want one at a time. Can you guys talk about this to texting versus phone calls because we want the phone calls, but it seems like you guys

prefer texting. What's everybody's thoughts on that. I have a capacity to handle like three phone calls and five text messages a day. That's about Yet then I'm on overload. Um I honestly, I honestly like FaceTime most often, Like whatever, whenever I call you, Amy, it's I FaceTime you because it's just like, hey, it's an easy way to punch in, punch out versus like texting, and just I don't have a capacity to do that. I actually like the phone call.

I enjoy FaceTime more. It's like, hey, how are you? There's my question? What's up? Okay? What are you doing? A great piece that because you're handsome, but no one wants a FaceTime to get the FaceTime coming in and you're like, this is the last thing I want is for them to see me right now. Face is I don't. I don't give a deal on FaceTime. He's like, he's like, my favorite facing timing is a lot. It's a commitment, Like what if I see a FaceTime coming first time,

like that's a pocket FaceTime. They did not mean to face You're like looking in the mirror, like if it's it's not your birthday, I'm not FaceTime and yet what Yeah? I am I alone in this? Are you FaceTime? The majority of the people you don't even know? I would FaceTime I FaceTime. Probably out of ten phone calls, seven of them would be faced that. What do you do when when when you travel, because you travel more than probably any of us right now. Mostly text? Yeah, mostly text.

But I find that if it if it's at all any kind of if it's any kind of intimate, like if you if you're like having a situation, if you're dating, trying to date somebody or whatever, the text is a horrible way to go because everything's lost some translation and and you have to put a phone call it. Yeah you know what I mean? FaceTime? Do you FaceTime? Not much? I don't. I don't face time much, um, just because

it's like kind of pain to FaceTime. I don't want to have to look at the phone, you know, not to mention forget about role. If you accidentally roll your eye on FaceTime and you're done. If you make the wrong facial expression, you're done. Um yeah, what you got buddy? Right? Also, you know what else, if you're face timing, it's hard for you to it's hard for you to text while you're having a conversation. But you're not. That's the point of that's the point of talking about. You got something

to do. Man, you gotta get back to people like yeah, it's so so then just look at it like like like I gotta go, I got stuff, I gotta I gotta go. I'll talk to you soon. Okay, it goes. If I'm FaceTime and it's no problem, you can be sitting out. Does FaceTime have cause with people? Yeah? I mean I'm going if I'm face If I'm FaceTime and that girl, how can I text other ones? That's not what I'm saying. That's comfortable. The guy has been married along.

That's the issue. That's that's me here and the rock stars. The star says, if I'm FaceTime and how can I text? So then the follow up question of that is do you ever cross text? That is a fear? Isn't it the cross text? But you could do that in any occasion.

I've done that for sure. I have. I have. I had a teammate once that accidentally cross text and you're talking about intimately, oh yeah, and accidentally and then blamed it on me like I was a scapegoat, but never told me and so then I got confronted about it and I was like yeah, and then like I just I just took a bullet. I took a bullet because I figured something was up. And then like a couple of minutes later, I was like, I saw my buddy. I was like, what is this and he's like, oh,

I forgot to tell you. I'm like, dude, I tell me. Have you guys seen the Fire Festival documentary so you know that Ovin Sorry, you gotta watch it, but you know the eavy On water guy. Come on, guys, I've seen both documents, the Avian water. He was gonna, you know what to get the water? Yes, So I was trying to tell no. He walked into the hotel. I was at a hotel. He walked in. I freaked out.

I got so excited as I started texting people like friends and I texted, he's here, and I sent the egg plan emoji with the water to the wrong person to like a seven year old professional man. I started. I started pouring. So you cross text anybody else in our community, any listeners out there, If you have a

great story, that's what I want to get out. If somebody out there has a fantastic story of cross texting, send us an email or do you have one, Oh, Danielle, I think a lot of women can relate to this. But when you're texting a guy, let's say I'm just I'm dating somebody, I'm texting that guy. I will text

my girlfriend to ask what I should respond with the guy. However, it's happened so many times before where I've screenshot at a conversation and sent it back to the guy instead of sending it to my friend and he's like, why did he just screenshot our conversation? Like hurt? But that happens is so many people, is so many of my before. So this is something I really want your honest opinions on.

And I know you're gonna want to give the politically correct answer, but if you can give the real answer, I have no interest in. So there's a girl I follow on Instagram, so she doesn't shave at all, not any not legs. For some reason, it's really hard for me say the word armpit, but I'm just gonna say it not armpit. That's a struggle to say that word

legs nothing. And what I think is interesting is any time she shows that on her Instagram, women criticize it or kind of make comments, and then other women come on and defend her, and it's this big sort of thing. So I'm wondering, as you, five men, what do you really think? Like, what do you really think about that? I think I mean, Gavin gave an example when I was talking about lasering my eyebrows. If she ever gets caught in a blizzard outside the Mall of America, she's

gonna need that hair for warmth. She's she's resourceful. Could be a regional thing. Does she live in Canada? No? Is that common in Canada? She lives in California. Because I think women are going to email us at men at I Heart radio dot com. No matter what you guys say. Think you're gonna lose lose here because I think they're gonna be irritated by you if you don't say it's okay. But I want you to be honest. I'll give it a shot. This is Rick speaking, Here's

the thing I think. Listen, I think everyone should do what they want. Okay, if that's what she wants, and if she is with someone or isn't with something and they're fine with it, then that's fine. I mean, the fact that she's posting it, she's inviting the comments. Okay, me personally, I trim. I trim what I want to trim because makes me more comfortable. So if she doesn't want to trim, that's up to her. And if whoever she's with, whoever her partner is, that's fine. But unfortunately,

once you go posting it, you're inviting the comments. So I don't know what her responsive, she has problems with all the comments, or if she's fighting back or clapping back or whatever. But the thing is, once you do that, you're you're kind of inviting it. So my my thought on this is if it makes you feel good and in your own world you're happy with it, then do it. But if you're doing it and then putting it out there and getting mad at people for commenting about it,

then that's on you. This is a topic for Professor to graw In on. Thanks Doc. My opinion on this um single Man's opinion the single guy, Well, I guess I have a general question, which should be does she get her hair cut on her head? And what does her hairstyle look like? And it's just a short haircut, has more to makeup. She's very, very pretty. It's just that's something she doesn't want to do for whatever different reasons. But as men, are you, I'm just gonna really cut

to the chase. Are you more attracted to a woman that does? Or do you care? See you're all I am more attracted to someone. Has anybody been with someone who has not? This thing to me as a man is to look at a woman who looks so opposite of anything masculine. Um, that's what I find sexy. So I already have body hair. I feel like I have that part covered. But now she has no hair and her whal body but a little patrick here that doesn't

grow on my face. I may say that's totally different than me, but you know, for me, I'm not looking for somebody who has any any esthetic at all reminiscent of my looks, and I'm just looking for the absolute opposite. I yeah, I agree, I have no interest in that. That's my opinion. Um, body hair, not attractive, not physically attractive to me in what I want to see on my partner. My wife, um, looks very feminine and to

me that's very very attractive. Yeah, we're here to give opinions, right, Well, No, here's the thing. They can have their own perspective. When that first came up, you asked what we thought of it, and so I said, if she wants to do what she wants doing it. But if you're asking me some

point blank, if I find that attractive, I don't. So I agree with Gavin Burton, and I think everybody here, um yeah, it's like that's not what mentally, what I'm accustomed to and what I think of, and therefore doesn't trigger an attraction to me. So if someone were to come to me and say, hey, look at me, I haven't shaved my armpits and my legs, I say, well, that's not that I don't. I'm sorry. That's great for you,

but I do not find that attractive. And I think there's a lot of things that they may look at us and be like, oh my god, like that guy's got you know, short hair, or that guy has long hair that's disgusting, or he has blonde hair or black hair, no hair or chest hair as a societal and political statement is the difference. No, not at all. And that's what I think. Yeah, it's like that. It is no doubt, it's an open window into but we don't know that. And I think Amy is just kind of like, do

you guys like it or don't? That's that's how I'm interpreting. We don't know that she's doing that. But she's posting a photo on Instagram with her arm up showing the thing, so she's not high, she's not not calling attention to it. I think she wants her to be a conversation like this. It's an old conversation. Has anybody ever been with somebody that that was like that, that has not chosen to shave,

whether it's arm, pits or legs. When I was a teenager, I went to a to a Woodstock reunion kind of thing, you know, because I grew up near the original woodstock location, right uh near Yaser's farm, And of course they'd have these revivals every year, you know, celebrating woods the nineteen sixty and anally stuff, so you know, all the hippies and the faux hippies, and people who just like are not hippies, but they would you know, the by ten dollar ted eyed t shirt walk around right all there.

And of course there's a lot of girls there who you know, we're teenage girls, twenty year olds, you know what I'm saying. I was like sixteen at the time, and there are a lot of girls in that that age range. We just you know, we're that kind of those kind of girls. You know, um, you know, fire pits and drum circles and that whole thing. Everybody smelled like but chuli, you know what I mean. And so

there are some cute girls out there. I mean I had a ball um but you know, um, but I can't say encountering that little underarm goate was a highlight of my teenage years. You know. So you've been there, Yeah, I seen it. I was about sixteen. Boy. So when we've when we flipped back through your picture book, there's not you in an underarm groate and like smiling. That's that's looks like I have two heads of hair. Okay, So we have a question from Tiffany and she is asking,

what are you insecure about on your body? Let too many, too many muscles, on my on my being the perfect shape. The twelfth ab muscle protrudes too much and it hurts when I bend over. My abs are so pronounced. This is everyone. His face was awesome. Really starts to hurt, Like everyone, we get it. You work out, well, you start, you started, buddy, what do you all dive in? Because I mean, you know, what the hell, I'm forty five, great hairs and sort of fat, and I don't really care.

I mean, the reality is great. Both thanks a lot of appreciate that, you know what. I joked about him since we got together. But like I, you know, I am kind of self conscious about my chin and the third one more so than the second one, but the first one I really want to keep around. So the fifth one kind of leads right down into like the stomach area. It kind of all it's good, like when you're in the sun and then you get up and there's just like all the way across it's good. Yeah,

it's nice. But that's what we asked Rick for the thing that he feels most sensitive about it, and we started beating on the You guys are nice, that's it. But I do think about you know, It's like I kind of mentally beat myself up about working out and and like not that I'm focusing on that particular area, but I think as an overall mentality of saying, hey, I need to go work out today, or you know because of X, Y and Z, or I look in the mirror shave or whatever, and it's like I need

to take care of that. Um, are you active right now? Like are you? Are you very inactive? Actually you've seen those elephant seals, right, That's kind of what I feel like every once in a while when I look in the mirror. But um, I know it's not the case. Does it change if you become very active or somewhat active somewhat? Yeah, yeah, somewhat. So then you have the

power to think about you know. And then you get the other side of it where your wife or was like, hey, well you know you can take care of that, and it's like I may, I am taking care of it. I'm going to the gym every day or or whatnot. But she's like no, no, no, you can like go and get it frozen off or sucked out or however you want to do it, you know, And I'm like, no, thank you, I'm not into that, hm, anybody else I'm self conscious about a little bit of everything, you know,

maybe that's what you know. Like I'll give you an example, right, So, uh so last week I went to the dentists and uh, you know, I just I had going because I had a feeling I needed done. And so they're doing that and I'm like, hey, you don't mind whiting in my

teeth a little bit? They're like, no, certainly not. I was like like three D shades lighter, like as white as you can get these things, like like whiter than my pupils, you know, and and like because I need to do because I never go in the sun, so I look like, you know, a ghost, you know. It's like a cross between like a ghost and like somebody

with jaundice. So so like if I don't know, yeah, so if I don't care if my teeth, you know, yeah, then if they're not really white, then you can't tell that look white at all, because you know, what they're up against is like this, so instead of tanning, you're just whiteing your teeth oddly, the sort of the translucent color that I have. And so because I hate going to the sun, you know, because when I was a kid, I was a lifeguard and I had to sit on

that damn chair all day long. Man, And I said, man, I mean I would, I would. I was like hoping somebody would go under just so I could cool off, you know. And so you know, so so in there, you know, I was like, yeah, just make these things as white as damn possibly, you know. And then they're like, okay, we've gotten pretty wet. I was like, hey, why you're in there? Um while you're in there, yeah, like yeah,

because you know that stuff in your mouth. I was like, how long would it take you to straighten these things out? You know? And they're like, well, what do you mean? I said, well, you know, I had left, you know, and uh And they're like, yeah, I mean we could. We could do a couple of things, you know. I said, maybe like some of those invisil line or I had braces when I was a kid, but I didn't want

to wear the retainer because they looked too straight. I looked like wimpy because they were too straight, and I kind of wanted to get them a little crooked again. But now they're like a little gangly, you know, so now I want them straight as could be. You know this is how man thing right. I was like, I can't look if it looks too good, then I'm gonna look like a pretty boy in this. Somebody will mess with you and then you know, like get him a

little crooked, you know. And so now I'm an adult, you know, I'm like, I mean, I want my tea straightened out again. You know, why did I why did I wear my retainer? Come play some hockey? But they come play some hockey. Man. I lost my front four te four times. See that? Do you have implants? They broken half? So they just they broken half. They broken half like vertically and half or like a cross like across.

How do you do that? The first time I lost them, I was twenty three, just got high sticked, but just a stick just took him right. I came to the bench, pulled up my mouth guard front forward, just broken half. And then after that then hockey players a really good dentist um, and then they filled them me and they put all like fake bottoms on them, and then after that they got I lost them twice in two weeks. One time one was of the puck, one was of the stick from a teammate in practice, and then I

lost them one more time. So you wanna you wanna you want to fix up your teeth? Buddy? The game you keep playing after that happened, Yeah, it's actually yeah, it's it's fine. You don't really feel it. Did you find this the other halfs on the I know they're just in your mouth guard. They come out in your mouth guard, you pull your mouth guard out, and they're just stuck in there. Did anybody make a really comment you afterward? Like, hey man, you want to get some

dinner to night? Can you Some guys like hey, can you open this here out there? Can open this spirit for me? But yeah, you want you want some teeth adjustment, my friend, come play some home all right, I can do that. I can't do that, but it'll be good for my mouth, I suppose. I mean, I uh, you know when I started losing my hair, and when I was like, I wasn't thrilled about it, but then uh, it came to a point where it's like it's seen. Obviously,

it's there's a lot more common now. And once I think I shaved it and just went with it, I was fine. So that doesn't bother me anymore. But if I don't keep myself. Like right now, I'm trying to get back in the shape. But if I don't keep myself in shape, the last place that that fixes itself on my body if I'm working out is like my

side and my gut, my stomach. So if someone walks up and hey, man, what's up and they hit you on the side, I automatically I'll miss the next sentence that they say because I'm all I'm thinking about is oh man, they hit my side. It's not like where I wanted to be. So I feel that though, like if I don't. If I if I'm on vacation for like a week, because I'm used to training like seven days a week, and if I'm on vacation for like a week, I feel soft and I hate it. Just

it's the grossest feeling to feel soft, which I don't like. Um, So I get back train hard and I noticed a change in my body too. You just feel a little softer. It just looks a little different. But also for me, it's um upper body. I'm a legs in My sport is a legs and lung sport, but that's what you train an explosive single leg power to be a hockey player lungs to skate all day and you don't spend

a lot of time on upper body. So in relation to my legs, my upper body are is small um and weak compared to my in relation to my leg strength. So for me, I'd like to develop more upper body. I don't think I have a very big upper body my self consci I think that's a half for oh the half horse at the center? What did you call it? A menatort cent centaur? I hit you on the side earlier,

sprain through things, impose your head. I love the Brooks, just that the Brookshire works out like what eighteen at twenty four hours a day goes. Yeah, when I go on vacation, I get soft. It's like for what it's just. But if you're if you're so like honestly as an athlete, you're so in tune with But I don't know, maybe it happens to what do you got? You gotta there? I got a minute tour? This guy's going off the cliff here? Can I see what you're you're talking about? This?

What do you call the is that the one center? I don't see how either of these I don't okay, Well, It's like, yeah, yeah, that is Brooks. That's Brooks on vacations. Can we post on our Instagram a picture of a centaur with Brooks's face? Oh, I'm sure if somebody in our community will do it. Oh God, here they come. I just want to be honest here. Um. You know, I we just shared a little bit about what we were self conscious about, and you know, obviously working out

and doing physical exercise. You know, we were talking about my chin and being forty five and chins. Excuse me, thank you Ryan. Um. But what I wanted to know really from you guys and some of our listeners was what motivates you to to get to the gym, be on time, get there every time, you know, work your upper body Brooks? Um, you know what is the motivating factor when you've already played a sport, when you already have the kids and you're you're already out on too.

You know, you come back from a from a concert or whatnot, Gavin, you know, are you gonna go work out afterwards or you're gonna work out the next morning or you know? Right, So I'm curious to know what the motivating factors are to do to to do that I that's probably the question I get asked the most in my life is how do you stay motivated and what motivates you? Um? Honestly, for me, it's well, it's

been about athletics. My whole life was about Okay, I want to become the best hockey player I possibly can be. That that was my whole goal. So I trained sports specific What in the gym directly translates to on ice peak, on ice performance. That was my motivating factor for thirty some years. Um. Now it's about I want to compete in CrossFit. But um so that's why I'm working on other things that are not sports specifically developing more upper

body power. Um. But for me, if I don't work out, if I don't train like my I turned my whole you guys probably seen on my Instagram if you follow me, my whole garage is a gym. It's my home Jim Heaven, um, and I'll train. I'll bounce back and forth in and out of that from eight to five every day. Um. I have a workout app, open gym training programs if you guys wanna, if you need something to train at home or at your gym. Um, this is my passion

in life. This is something that fulfills me. And honestly, my head would blow off if I didn't train in a day or two days. Like, I just have so much energy I need to get out, and I think if I didn't do that, It's one it's fulfilling for me. I can do it by myself for four or five six hours. You can probably sing or write or like music by yourself all day, right, So this is fulfilling for me. So it's it's sort of a gift in that regard um. But also I think I would go

crazy if I didn't get that energy out. I think my wife would probably divorce me in a week if I wasn't able to work out like for me right now. I mean, I was doing waterpool for a long time, and they're a couple of years ago. I was training pretty hard for a World Championship thing and Hungary and and we went and did all that, and ever since then, I've just been and we remodeled our house or whatnot.

But I've just been very kind of stagnant and just been, you know, and almost enjoying it to the fact where I'm like, you know what, I don't have to do that today? Like cool, Like I'm gonna stay home and enjoy my coffee or whatever, not go to the gym at six o'clock or go swim at five am. Um. And now what I'm really struggling with is getting on that horse, and without forcing myself, I think I can

help you here. So and for our listeners too, because this is so if if working what would on a scale of one to ten, what would working out or right now be to you? A three? Four? Like how excited would you be to do it? Or like what would so you're three? So a lot of a lot of people listening to this probably are a three. So my, how we how do we get this? Because if something's attend to you, you're like, I want to do that. That's so attractive, that's so that's so much fun to me.

So if training for you right now is a three, well, if we add great music, that might make it a four. If you do it outside in the sun here in California, might be a five or six. If you do it with a good friend, might be a seven. If the gym is really close to your house, maybe that's an eight. If you put a challenge to it, Hey, I'm gonna do. I want to be able to do a five k or a half marathon by July or August. Well, now you have a purpose to it, and you're like, I'm

gonna raise money. Can can you sponsor me to do this? Now you have a purpose. Now maybe there's a motivation outside of yourself. Now maybe it's a nine or a ten and you're like, damn right, I'm going to do this. Could be you want to be healthy, you want to live to your ninety years old, to be around for your grandkids. That could be a motivation. But there's many ways to turn it from a three to a ten, and I would look at some of those ways for

our listeners. What are those ways in your life? Who are those people in your life that can help elevate it so that it's something that you gravitate towards versus something you resist against. Tell you a funny story about working out in good music. So I try and work out as much as i can, because one, I get embarrassed if I'm out of shape. But also what you were saying earlier books for for me, part of what I do is about quick thinking and stuff like that.

And if I'm out of shape and stuff I have. My I just get sluggish and my thinking slows down, and you know, it doesn't work. So I started working out. I was like, okay, there, I want to try and work out every day, and I can't do. I don't have a time between work and the kids and everything to do so much every day. So I bought one of those Peloton bikes, and I was like, at the very least, I'll do a ride every day, which I did last night before we left to come here. I

hadn't done it yet. So I did a ride at like ten o'clock at night, and I got up and I had to catch a flight this morning. But I did a ride this morning. But as I was riding this morning, I'm doing this thing, it's like, all right, I gotta get up to Oakland. And so I don't know if you know Peloton. There's a screen there and it's almost like you're in a live class and the

instructors talking and stuff like that. Sometimes they are alive too, but instructors like, all right, this next one's really gonna knock your socks off. She goes. I just love Gavin Degra's voice. Yeah, And so listen if this isn't a sign, that's the part where I would have turned that screen off. Dude. This has been another This has been a powerful episode. I think this is our best episode. This is one of the top two episodes. That's one of the top

two we've ever done, certainly the most recent one. Um but gavic Well said, I'm about at jokes, buddy, just wrap us, get me up, great man. Hey, well, listen, fellas. It's an honorably here to be honest with you. After meeting you, guys, I walked in. I thought it was gonna suck, but she surprised me, so thanks for having me. Hey, guys, it's Brooks and one last thing before you take off. We want to know your thoughts, feedback, insights, and questions

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