Ladies of The Bachelor Confront How Men Think

so many things for one item. Are you uncomfortable? No, only if you turned towards me, I'll be pretty uncomfortable. Were you want of the impression we were gonna do the same thing in the pool or no? Well, so, yeah, we're up in Taho right now. So I'm thrilled to be here. And you know the reason we're here. One of the reasons I'm here is to we're swimming doing a relay race. I'm here with all my teammates we're excited about. So I'm just mentally preparing for the race,

which is tomorrow morning. So I thought, as we did the podcast we should you know, get in race mode. I like it. Well, I don't know goggles because then I wouldn't be able to see you didn't know this, but I am too wearing speedos today. Yes, yeah, I'm just thinking with you. So anyways, um, so when you swim tomorrow tomorrow, what is your stroke gonna be? I mean swimming stroke? Freestyle? It's all freestyle. Twelve mile relay race with six people that's not very far and the

water is freezing. The water is yeah, low sixties right now, so it's gonna gon shrink that it already is sitting here talking to you. It's very good, very good. Can I tell you tomorrow? It's since it's freestyle, I'm much more looking forward to that view than the one I'm looking at right now. I can see the front a little bit. It's making me uncomfortable. Well I can go. I can swim backstroke tomorrow. Oh no, let's jump in here. So so, Dmitri's here, Rick's here, Brooks is not here?

Who else is not here? Ryan's not here? Is he in protest mode right now? His contractors? What's going on? Very competitive with Brooks? So while Brooks's climbing kilimanjar is on a baby moon with his wife, really, so that's when you know, he and his wife go away before their their baby comes to have like one last hurrah, which which is pretty much reality, right, it's one last hurrah.

But he already has a kid, so it's not like, I mean, I don't know how many he already knows that with him on the baby moon or no, the baby, the other kids can't stayed home. Okay, the kid and his son, which obviously he's wearing Daryl Darryl's son. So let's let's see who else is here in the house. We have Ashley Perfect and you have your own podcast,

don't you now? You you were on The Bachelor. You were on during the Chris soul Stays right and beyond and beyond after that and since then you've branched out and I talk about The Bachelor now on the almost famous podcast commentator The Cupid Commentator, right, and you're here with a bit like ironically, we just happened to be here accidentally. We knew that the women from the Batchlor are going to be here at the same time, and we totally weren't planning on that. I mean, how nice

to bumping you guys in the same house. Yeah, and like to use the same I heart radio mix. Oh, I mean what are the chances? So you said you've had some conversations, conversations with these amazing ladies and they had some questions that they wanted to ask us. Yeah. I think all the Bachelor girls are going to come on and ask you guys a question Before I ask mine, I have to ask two unrelated questions. To wear this pio to go the two mile? Really you're going to

do We're going to do yourself to two miles? Right? I probably will turn out to be two miles. It's a twelve mile race with six people. How do you not freeze? And then you swim fast and hopefully your body stays warm. But the rules to the races you cannot wear a wetsuit, so you can wear another type of you know, bathing suit. Why do you choose speedo because it's the most streamline so you can go the fast? Do you really believe in that? Like do you like shave? Oh?

I shave? Yeah. This guy is like, by the way, I don't know if you've ever seen Rick swim. He is a porpoise. This is cool. I actually want to see this real. Yeah, that's right, a bottom those bottom I'm more of a narwhale right. So, and by the way, this is a team event. Gavin and I will be on the boat riding alongside him while he swims. We will probably have time in the morning. Okay, that's that's that.

Oh I could I could do that. There a satellite a satellite version of this from the hotel room a stream? Is there a later virgin? Can you guess swim later? Can you do it again later when I wake up like a matinee in the Matter show? Yeah, let's do that. Okay, Rick, would you manscape and shave if it weren't for your swimming habits? Yeah, of course I like it. It feels good. Yeah, I would shave pretty much everything. But really, yeah, so

you're a chest shaver. I shaved my chest. I clip like, I don't really call it shaving, like in my idea is shaving as like you're actually taking the razor and like shaving your face. Well, Dmitri and I actually help him lather first, then he does a shaving alone because he's big boy now and we trust him with sharp objects. But the truth is, if he's lathered up correctly, which you know we are thorough about it, then he'll be fine because we don't need him jumping in the lake

with razor burn. No, you don't want razor burn. So I clip and clip my chest, clip my under arms. The most appealing to women or to yourself? To myself, yeah, yeah, to myself. You know, it's all about you know where it spreads from there. That's that's where we go. Do you think women prefer that very hairy chest or do they like the smooth shaven My fiance is somewhere in between. He has like a really great natural pattern of chest hair. What's a natural pattern? Look like like an argy from

the forest. Like I'd say, like his hair had raverage them out, the hairs would probably be like about half an inch in length. Yeah, but he doesn't shave. He just has like naturally great patterns. Also doesn't have belly hair. He chest hair's nice. Wow. What about the back hair? Back of that should always be done with? Yeah, did your back hair? Did you look out that he had this pattern that you prefer or did you I think I think I'd really not have a strong preference either way.

So it's not a deal breaker. No, but I hear a lot of girls will strongly like chest hair or will strongly like no hair. So girls don't like back hair. We could definitely do an Instagram pull on this. Do girls like back hair? Absolutely not toback hair? And why do all girls love dogs? Because their animals? Okay, do you guys do Dmitri? Gavin? Do you man escape at all? No? Sorry? No, I do? Okay, alright, moving on. My other question was, Gavin, have you watched One Tree Hill? Did you watch one?

Ever seen it? That's wacky? Isn't that weird? I don't watch TV? Okay, so hyped me up for every single episode of Like I don't know how many episodes there were over two, right, it's pretty awesome. I don't know. I heard it was good. It was amazing. Yeah, thank you. You still get the checks for every much? Do you get the checks? Checks? Soap opera dot? I like getting checks, but I love writing checks. I just love to write checks because it reminds you of being an elementary school

pharmacy gum. You know tex So I'm like, could please allow me? I just love reaching for it was a check? What I mean? I don't know what it is. It just allows me to what was the last time you wrote a check at like a grocery store or at a store. Last time I was at a grocery store. Actually, I wrote a check out a store this morning. I tried when last night I drove in from Vegas. I drove my truck from Vegas right because I was going to get on a plane, but flying sucks, so I

decided I'd rather drive eight hours. I pulled into a convenience store last night with my dog and I went up there with a couple of six packs um because I was dehydrated, and uh, I was hoping to buy a couple of them. It was it was two oh six. I put him on a counter and uh, and the guy said, oh, sorry, I can't sell you beer right now. And I was like, two or six? Two or six? Is there another too? And I was like there's no. It was more wondering you could get a six pack

in We're in the wrong country for that. So so anyway, two six packs at two or six am. He can't sell them to me, and I said why not? He said, we can't sell after two am. I said, break the rules. And a guy from behind bhind me goes, there's a police officer behind you, and there's a cops standing right behind me. No fifth minute break and let me do my thing, you know. Luckily a good laughing. Luckily he was a one tree hill fantally. Yeah, totally like I

do what you guys play basketball on the show. Okay, so thanks, I'm going to try to real listen and get back to my original topic. So anyway I could write the check is what I meant to say. I really wanted Tom on my part. It actually started with the I Heart radio podcast Help I Second Dating the topic of being in relationships and poop came up. One of the hosts, Vanessa Grimaldi, is very open with pooping. Well, how men think is we don't use the word, We

don't say what should I say? But I can't say that on my heart? Okay, what do you want to go with? Dump drop a deuce, dump drop a deuce, Drop the kids off, less, drop the kids off at the swimming pool. While okay, I've ever read this dog before. I just don't like poop the word. I don't like the word poop either. It sounds like a PLoP. And then I think of the actual piece of poop plopping

into the toilet. It works better at that not you know. Yeah, okay, So anyway, how do you feel about your significant other dropping the kids off at the pool whall um with the door opened? That was the main That was the main conversation that we had on this on that podcast, and then it rolled over to the almost famous podcast

because I thought it was so controversial. Yeah, and now we can get more into like the nuances, but let's talk about that specific instance dropping the kids off at the pool with the door open, and you being like into the may need to go right now, and we can just try it. Somebody go in there. Yeah, the same way. I didn't like the word poop. I don't

want really anything to do with it personally. So I think bathrooms were constructed with a door for a reason, So I think go in there and close it there, like I don't want to. And I understand that everybody does it and understand that it's a natural thing, but I don't need to be a part of it. Like I'm not even thrilled when I have to do it, So I think it's a private thing. On the show,

people were actually doing almost fifty fifty. I am very strongly like, with your significant other, I think you should be closing the door. I think everybody, because now your significant other, the door should be closed. Anybody. Yeah, from which community? From the I guess the female community. The female community was like, felt comfortable doing it. Give you my theory on this. This may be a total bullshit theory,

but most of my theories really are. So my guess is the only reason that we're okay with that because they're single. No. No, Because when girls go out and they go to the bathroom, there was bring a girl into the bathroom with him, whereas when guys go to the bathroom, never like, hey, bro, let's go to the bathroom together and we'll talk about what's going on. My guess is that when you go to the bathroom, some of you guys are performing this particular act having a talk,

so a little bit more socialized in that capacity. From that angle, Vanessa leaves the door open while doing number two because she wants to continue with the conversation with her boyfriend, which I felt another level of disturbing. You can't just resume the conversation five minutes later. It's not the lightning around. She can I mean my my particular my opinion on that would be it's absolutely vile. It's

despinutely disgusted, I think or not. I agree, it's it's weight, so you know, it's it's not something to be done socially. So I wanted to talk on the internet for that. But something I want to see is it more like I want to do. By the way, Rickett, if you push that hard, you really should check in your you need to go to a doctor. That's the next episode. Before I leave you, guys, I just want to ask

you one of like roll off. Yeah, then you have all these My fiance and I, like we are together constantly, like all we live together, like we do Almoso, all work together, every trip together. So it's kind of hard to hide it now. So it's like if we're in a hotel room, like I'm going to be like, don't run in there, or like we gotta go to the bathroom now it's an emergency, Like I'll be like that, Like I pretty open when I have to tell him now like I just went or I have to go,

but I would never go front of him. And like when I when I will go out and he's in the same room. I'll like, turn the water on so he doesn't hear everything that's appropriate, right, Yeah, I think my mom. I don't think my mom has ever acknowledged to my dad after thirty seven years that she even does it and they're still together. Yeah, I know, there you go, swish, Thank you so much. Thanks for coming on. You're great. You're walking into a storm? Are you? Are

you nervous? I don't know what that Puccini's very nice, Puccini, nicely done. Huh? I got that your Italian? But she said, but you said it, and she said, yes, is that an Italian name? It is? Do you know Jack Mopuccini the opera composer? Of course? Who doesn't know? I mean, you're in the music industry, right, are you? What are you doing? Some of my favorite songs were composed by I'm Puccini. Hey, I'm an opera fan. I like Pavarotti. Am I saying it right? What? Pavarati? Puccini? Yeah, he

wrote some great songs, Puccini. I don't know which ones, but they were great. They actually but Arias not in Butterfly labom what I thought? Right? Ron al Nido? Oh, I don't know, I don't think so you don't think? So did you just make that up? All right? Well, we'll do a Google stat later. I like making up Italian in front of Italian girls. It's fun. Let's want some Starbucks together. Okay, So we're sitting here with Analyse Puccini. Yeah, this is Vin with my co host Dmitri Rick. We're

missing a couple. We're missing Brooks, Like right now, he's in killing Majard? Did I say that? Alright? With his lovely wife? You're saving the animals? Do you see what analyst is on now? You're you're thinking about every pronunciation that you're doing, very words, you're saying, did I do? Did I say that correctly? That's also because I just downloaded dual Lingo like two weeks ago, and I was trying to my Spanish and it is really bad, mostly English,

the Queen's English. Actually, that's that's exactly correct. So so we have we have some some lovely girls here who are from the Bachelor thor the Bachelorettes, and they have interesting questions for us. Some are grosser than others. I hope we just answered the grossest one, and uh, we were hutting and at least to ask ask her question to the boys on how men think? What do you have? First? Okay, I think I don't even know how to set this one up. I guess it's just it's very simple. It's

just what is it like to have a penis? Whoa, it's very simple, very and there's a lot What is it? Yeah? What's it like? Um? Have you ever worried about zipping up your pants only when the two sizes is too small? But then that have you ever worried about zipping up your pants? No? Not really, That's what it's like. That's having a penis in Have you ever worried what you look like, really look like wearing a pair of sweatpants? M hmm, I mean things moving around? Have you worried

about that issue? This guy is sitting here, and I mean, do you feel like I'm a little bundled up right now? Downs? Rick? What it's like they have a penis? Because since we can basically see it, go ahead, that is true, Rick, It's just the outside. Is it kind of like having like a like an ace bandage on right now? Does that what it feels? Oh? Yeah, like like I hurt myself. It's like holding everything very middle section together. It is

kind of for holding the middle section. It's like spanks for us probably, yeah, totally, that's what the speedo does. But um, having a penis I like it. It's great. It's a good feeling, you know. It kind of sometimes it goes, it leans to the right, it leans to the left. You know, when you're doing any sort of manscaping, you've got to kind of pull things to different directions to get it out of the way, depending on where

you're gonna go. Um, has it ever while you're man escaping, has it ever sort of moved on its own kind of like well, like if you breathe like you moved like as you were while you were just trying to get the clippers are close. It's like what kind of like you do at the barber where you like, don't forget over here a little bit off on this right right when it falls out of your hands as you're moving it around, then yeah, you need to be a

little careful. Interesting, if you breathe heavy enough, then you can see things moving around at the same time, which is kind of a fun trick. What is interesting. We're looking forward to watching your balls go in it out they around man escaping you doing some sort of puppet show by yourself. Wait, let me ask you a question. Ask you a question about your question. Yeah, go for it now. I put it into a physical I interpreted physically because I'm a guy. I think oftentimes guys that

thinks physically. That's what we're here for, right, How guys think? I think so. So when you asked the question, what's it like having a do you just mean physically or do you mean it? Do you mean it on a social level and another capacity? All levels? I'm curious, I mean getting an interpretation from of how you saw that question, like walking around as a man, or just what's it like? Do you remember when you're being are you just like do you get joy? You're like, this is the easiest

thing ever, totally of course. And then you can go wherever you want. That's the one thing's probably a little bit of a difference. Can you write in script in your streams? Yeah, definitely not. It would be very messy. There you go. Um yeah, no, I mean as far as like peeing, yes, it is much more free. Like Rick said, you can basically do it anywhere. Um And as Gavin pointed out, you can you can right in the snow or wherever in the dirt because you can

see it. You can see it in the snow. You can't see it so much in the dirt, so you'd like it's a nice canvas, I would imagine, you know. The other thing, I feel like it's sometimes it's kind of like having a little extra friend, you know, like you can like you you can hold it. You're holding it all the time pretty much, you know, and then you can just you're kind of checking on it every once in a while, like when you say good night, does it say good night back to you? What do

you call yours? The eye? I mean, sure this we don't know what it's like to not have one, so that's right. Is it something that? Is that something that that women think about often? What would it be like having? Yeah, like for a day, you know, it would be kind of cool just to be like, oh, that's what that's likely. Yeah, see vice versa. I have never thought, yeah, that's interesting, but I think I mean, I love being a woman. I wouldn't change love you being a woman, thank you.

But like I think it's I think that's one of the cooler things about being a guy. Really having something in between your thighs at all times when you're trying to make moves. Okay, see that's that would be going to the gym a guy. When you're getting on a bicycle. Yeah, are going to the gym or exercising, you have to wear those other type of tighter shorts or whatever versus just regular boxers or hell is having to sit on a bicycle seat for eternity and peddle or just sit

just to be on it. You know. I tellt you're gonna get a swin like one of those beach cruisers. Is that your was that your brand? Plug sinn swinn? I think they're out of business. I'm not sure, but I like the showIn back in the beach cruiser is love landing. It has a huge seat, was a fine machine and it kind of like there's a little area for the arresting area for like the banana seat. Uh kind of a half cradled yes, thank you, very little space for your there's there's Yeah, it's a joy ride.

I feel you. Here's my question to you, what do you think it's like? What do you think it would be like for to have one? Like a man? It was your assumption. No, it was just it was well, if I had to think about, okay, let me have a penis for a day, two things that I would want to do. Yes, those are like the two things that I'm like, you cannot with a man or a woman,

though if you had it. I would want to have sex with a woman if I had a penis for a day, because I would girls, And you've never been able to say it before in front of the other ladies. There's a lot of beautiful ladies in this room. You can tell me. I won't tell a soul please in the ear now, No, I can't. Okay, Oh my god. Anyway, let me say it has been a true honor having miss Analte's cheen me on the show today. At least do you have any idea who might be the next

victim of our assaults? Verbally? Could you recommend one I can handle us? I think, well, Crystal will be feisty, so let's just's fisty? Is that how you want? Have you enjoyed your experience on our show? Have I experienced it? I've laughed a lot, and so I will say that's a yes. Well, excellent, thank you for coming on. Well, before we get the Crystal, Let's take a quick break

and we'll see you back soon on How Men. Thanks you all right, hello everybody, welcome back to how Men Think This is gavin to grow missing my co host Brooks like, but got a couple of my boys here today, Dmitri and Rick. Rick's going to be swimming tomorrow. We talked about his marble bags. He's rocking now. Right now, we have some ladies in the house. We are in Tahoe and we have some of the girls from The Bachelor.

Next victim in line is Crystal Nielsen. She was on during the season of The Bachelor with a Now, did you end up marrying our I did not. That's why I so so uh we're gonna learn about what happened to you. But what happened to Ari? Ari found his twin flame? He did. He found a man that looked just like a lady who was hot like him? Was he hot? He's even hotter? So you didn't find him to be hot? You know? I thought I kissed him? What was it? Like, I'm kidding, I'm I'm I'm just playing.

I'm just playing. I'm just I'm just playing. So we're happy. He came on here, We're gonna We're gonna let you control the questions right now because we've had all these wonderful relation in the bathroom on the show, and we want you to step out and ask us what are the types of questions that you've always wondered and want to ask a couple of idiots like us to say, so that we can lie to you at least and give you an answer. Okay, Well, I hope you because

it is as honest as possible. And I was gonna go a little more towards, you know, the members side of men, but analyst really covered that topic. So I feel like I can mind the questions that were pending but answered, I answered, so I would like to know, Yes, what are guys most insecure about? And why? Man? Everything? Oh? Sorry, guys, I that was my that was my my ego. Sorry, as my insides, We're not insecure about anything. Do you have any other questions for us? We are totally in

control of the situation, is what I mean. I'm not believing that. Do you mean? Do you do you mean specifically one thing that all men share? Now? I mean, as use three individual men, what are you most insecure about well, there was about a split second that when I walked out with my speedo, I was a little bit insecure about which part is just being shirtless pretty much pretty much naked beside it takes balls to wear

that because we can see them, so we know. But I mean, going back to the other the previous question is, you know, I think there are some things that you know, men may be insecure about, and maybe Penis could be one of them, or maybe their looks or maybe they're you know, their job or what you know, so you know, Dmitri has an answer over here, you know what. To be honest, I'm insecure. I don't want to be seen as somebody that's like rude or not not, Like, I

don't want to be seen as a douche bag. Like I use sarcasm a lot and I joke around a lot, but I don't want anybody to ever think that I'm like I'm a douchebag and like I don't care about other people's feelings and stuff like that that I think would bother me. I think what you're saying is just because I hurt them, doesn't mean I don't care about your feelings. Yeah, right, for sure, so for all these speed old things. I know Rick, I know he's not

gonna be upset about it. What yeah, whatever, whatever, Scot awkward. So insecurities about Bonnie and penis, insecurities about perception, perception. I think we have all of the insecurities any insecurity women could have other than her physical parts. We have them in the in our field. We have the physical fears, we have the emotional fears, we have the the the tool insecurities that everybody else has. Do you get fears? Can I ask? Do you get fears in regards to relationships?

Because I know for women particularly like I'm thirty one and there's that that ticking time bomb of well I'm married now and I'll be a geriatric pregnancy in three and a half years. So I feel that sense of urgency of I need to get moving, but yeah, I still feel so young. So do you guys? You don't

have that limitation on how long you can have children. No, not physically like that, but I think we do have the the feeling of I don't want to be seventy five and chasing around a toddler like we want to be able to you know me there for the kids, and be active in their lives. So in that respect, we do have that, But obviously it's not a physical thing because we don't actually carry and deliver the babies. That's true. But but I think you're right there. There

is a physical element to it. It's not necessarily the delivery of the of the birth right, but it truly is, I think, in essence, being able to be fundamentally at least at like in the history of being a man, of being able to be the protector. You know, you understand protect the house right. So there's a very fundamental male function tribally speaking, And if you read any Joseph Campbell, you see he references it over and over and over again.

There's certain fundamental, fundamental tribal functions that men provide. One of them is protections. So of course, if you're very old, dad, you won't necessarily feel the ability to perform your function, your primal physical male function. That is true. But we're in such a day and age where there are men who are stay at home dads, and they're taking on more of a feminine role and the mom is, you know, out there hustling doing her thing like a boss asked

woman and like, that's definitely having a cultural shift. So it is like in an a characteristic but culturally it's actually becoming more acceptable for men to be more feminine in that nurturing aspect until somebody breaks in the house and how feminine? How feminine would you want him to be at definitely? Know you know what I mean, no disrespect, but there's certain functions that men are expected to perform, period or whatever. But men will feel the inadequacy if

they don't perform that function. So would you're saying you'd feel inadequate if you were a provider family? No, No, I'd feel inadequate if I felt like I was enabled unable to protect the family physics definitely. But as far as be a provider, would you feel inadequate? Not at all at all. So you're looking for sugar Mama's No not. Hopefully this podcast is not successful and then yeah, not not sugar Mama is. Actually I think a lot of

men want a total alpha female. So I think a lot of them are looking for a woman who can who can take care of a lot of things on her own that are outside of the house. I think that's healthy, So I don't think it's it's men feeling like they can't be at the house if the woman say a higher earner. Right, So let's say you have a job and I have a job, but you're making twice the money. I'm not going to say, you know what, honey,

stay at the house with the kids. I would say, financially, speaking personally, for me, I would say, it's it's just a smarter business move and as a and as a family, as a couple for me to stay home at that point because you're making you're making a better living, would primal instincts to be a provider. Though, interfere with that logic because I know for a lot of us there's a sense of ego and these expectations and I mean

appearents of how men should be. No, like, I have a career and I and I work on my own, but my wife went to business school and she she's the CEO. She runs businesses as well, And that doesn't like that's fantastic, It doesn't. I never feel, you know, whether I go and I write jokes or I you know, write scripts or whatever, I never feel like, oh I'm inadequate, I'm not doing this, or that. We also have four kids. So in l A, I think you have to have

multiple jobs. Um, but no, I don't. I don't ever feel like, you know, she's she's a brilliant person and so I've never felt like inferior because she may have, you know, can can be seen as a more intelligent job. So yeah, and I was going to say that I feel like those people are those men that allow that to get in the way, Those are the douche bags.

Those are the guys. Those are the guys that are have you know, they think they're too cool or they need to run this particular way of their life with their wife or their partner, and and that's the and it's usually the reason. The reason they feel in secure about it is because they can't do that. So it's that whole take someone else down. Yeah, there's something they're being outdone by somebody, and they hate the fact that

it's a female. So that's a real issue, which is crazy when it's here when it's your significant other, because it's like it's the relationships where you can't feel completely happy for your significant other when something happens that's great for them, when you feel jealous. That's not a good mixture. Of a relationship and the other thing, yeah, sorry interrupted. The other thing I was going to say about fear in general is, you know, like I, the older we get.

I mean, I'm not near my death, but I start thinking about death, like and how am I gonna go? And and am I gonna have a heart attack tomorrow? Swimming you know in the lake razy is jumping in the coldest deepest If you do, can we bury you in your speedo? Actually? If you die, can I have your stuff? You get? Have my speed up? Hey, I have a question. It's pretty small. Do you think it

would still shrinking in the dry if I toted? Uh? No, I mean I was just gonna say, the older we get, like I you know, I do you know, it does creep into my mind about death and like how am I going to die? And you know, my kids and you know, how is that going to react? And you know, how are they going to react and how are they

gonna feel? And just I start I think it's mainly because my dad's getting older and that's starting to creep in I think his mind, and it's also creeping into my mind, um and watching him go through that, and so it's a very interesting fear to have um, and you know, being thirty one, you probably don't think about that at all. You're like, let's go, let's go hop on a plane, let's go there, let's get in the thing. And for me, I'm like, oh, I'm going to Hong

Kong on aift flight, Like I wonder what's going to happen. No, I definitely do. My cousin when he was twenty one, died of an enlarged heart, had a heart attack, and I went and had uh an X ray genn and found that I also have an enlarged like in the front frontal facement of my heart, so that for a long time I definitely was afraid that I wouldn't have like this longevity of life. So that has been like a huge wickup call. So I really truly look at every year is such a such an honor to get older.

But I still get photox every now and then. I can't tell it's got a little touch up wettle baby. All right, Well, thank you so much for having me, and thank you, yeah, thank you for thank you for giving me such a perspective. And I think it's so awesome to see men just really empower women and you know, not feel you know, confined in these expectations that our fathers and grandfather is hot because times are shifting, so it's important just to be open and support what's best

for everyone. It's true, and I think it's important that that men are able to have a conversation with women to express our our vulnerabilities as well. You know, for a long time we were told to essentially suppress all versions of of every weakness we had. You know, no, I don't need to go to the doctor. No I don't have a fever. No I don't need addville. No I don't you know what I mean? So, so great question. Thank you so much for coming on this show. You're great.

Thank you. That's okay, I think he did great anyway. Okay, so so Crystal Christal was going to leave, but she had a really fiery question and uh we told her not to ask it. So here it is. What is question? You know? I just want to say to my husband, I am so happy and satisfied. But for all my sisters out there, yes, asking for a friend. I just I am curious to know and how can multiple orgasms occur from your male partner? Is there a particular a roma or smell or like a special pair of socks

that you wear, because definitely you were a speedo. She wears the speedo though. Um boy, so wow, how do you get men to multiple times in a row? Okay, what's in a row for you? And then how much time? Within how much time? I would say, within seconds? M do you have a video of that? Asking for a friend? Uh? So? Oh boy? So are you asking this uh for your other people? Because you've been so lucky, but you want

them to be as lucky as exactly. I just want to help out, help the sisters out right, So I'm curious to know actually the men on this panel want to help the sisters out too. I think you're trying to figure this out. We all just come together and like pull up the white board and together you can forget about There's a lot of curious, confused places over here. So it seems that no one actually knows. It's like, no one knows how women like all cycle together, and

clearly multiples are threw us with the socks thing. And I think that was a kind of jab in the face because I think we're trying to figure out and you mentioned socks, and I was like, now I'm thinking about what Like, I know Gavin, he's he's particularly with tup socks when he has I love a tupesock, certainly a pair of tustack man with the little colored bands at the top, the tall ones, you know what I mean.

And a headband. I use those two so good together combo. Yes, for sure, Absolutely eighties basketball players what I go for. That's what I do. I rocked the short shorts just like about a foot and a half above the knee, just below the speeder line. Can multiply? Oh can I are? You're asking me a personal question. Well, I'm just saying if it's all inspired, I think when you're with I think when you're with the right person, that shouldn't be an issue. So uh and so um, I don't know.

I just think there's a certain there's a chemistry thing right with people. I don't know if you call it love or you call it whatever you want, but when there's a lot there's a severe amount of chemistry, and you just I feel like the intimacy thing should be at least ideally speaking to people who just can't take their hands off each other. Right, Um, And I don't I don't see it being necessarily an issue, but but it is for some people. Yeah, yeah, it's not Lucky Socks. Now,

it's passion. It's passion driven, it's passion. I think it's passion. I think it has to be. I think you're absolutely. I think it has to be because it's not. There's there's not a formula. It's not a Lucky Socks. It's not a I'm gonna do this move, I'm do that move and then this is gonna I think it really has to do with what you said, Gavin, the connection between the two and and while it's happening, it's just that that build up, you know, between the two of them.

And so I don't think there's like there's a certain formula that you can follow that's like, all right, you know what I'm because otherwise, why wouldn't it just happen? Wh wouldn't we just do it all the time? Hm? If it was that easy, if it was the Lucky Socks, it was the I'm gonna do this move where I'm gonna line up, then I think it would be. So

I really think it matters. Like Gavin said that the chemistry between the two people, is it because is it because the people you you have conversations with, they've been with lovers who that that was sort of something that was part of the relationship, and of course they move on from that, and then it's the sex just is no good or it's just it's good, but it's only

like one time. But I think the um as women, it definitely takes us longer to reach, you know, a claimactic moment, and I know for men and actually is much shorter and so the first one and so there's definitely and I learned about this in college. But like the men, it's literally, I think within five minutes a peak, but women it takes twenty minutes to reach a climactic moment. And that's why the issues of like four play is such so important. So how can we have the men

meet the women so that they just ride those waves together. Yeah, I was just curious to know, you know, I got to help them as sisters out there. You got a comment on this one night. I mean, I was going to go back to sort of, but I was going back to Dmitri was saying, is like, I think it has to do with the intimacy and the connection that's going on at that time, you know. And I think, you know, there's a time during that you know, intercourse or whatever that you're trying to hold off because of

that timing. UM, and that's you know, you gotta figure out ways to do that. And I think a couple a couple of UM. A little while ago, we had UM, what was it? We had the intimacy show, UM with the intimacy expert Lila, and she you know it was it was she refused, she got angry when we called

it fur play. But I think a lot of that has to do with the build up to things and not rushing to necessarily the penetration and then this and this and that, And I think a lot of it has to do with how you go about it and what you do, and that the build up of the chemistry that we've been talking about. I think once you get you know, you get into that, then I think that can that can move the timelines a little bit sooner.

I think once the penetration is there, I think you're a lot closer to that five minutes for the guy. But if there's some some um. Again, she didn't forgot what she wanted us to call it. Besides four play. But when there's that, then I think core play duty. Yeah, I think then you're moving those times in lines a little close together, and I think then you have a better shot at multiple Thank you very much. I will let my Is that a good enough answer, though? I

would there be an answer. I think the answer is this. It's like you know you're together the guy. It's the guy's turn, and then the guy does core play until it's the girl's turn, and then at that point maybe they just take like get a little sprint, ser like a little drink water, and then they both come back and right, I think just that's how it would go. So during the spritzer is at the commercial break where we bring in our sponsors proteinterest, Okay, but I still

feel like you're a little disappointed. I think there's a version of this, I guess because I know that I know that like passion is there, but I'm like, I just I thought there would be like because I thought there would just be a little more like well, like I can't be touched for like ten minutes and then I have to start thinking sexy thoughts or like when someone kisses my ear and puts me back in the mood or like grubs the back, or like tickles my hair, like that puts me back in like in a place.

And I thought I was curious to see if there was an actual like physical thing or an emotional or a mental that got you back in the game. Interesting because you know what it is. It's just connectedness, like with your partner, and it's such a beautiful, amazing experience

and we always want more of it. So asking for a friend, since you're asking for a friend, a friend would another friend I know probably who would have said, uh, just completely stay in the zone and keep going until they see how deep you are into the zone that they're enticed to be back in there with you. That would be my gift. Thank you. That's a fantastic ancer you taking an invistit about behind the microphone. That was a great question, by the way to to Fiery Ones.

Thank you so much, Crystal, Crystal Nielsen, thank you for coming on the show. You were amazing and spicy coming back with how men Think. All right, Hey, everybody, it's Gavin DeGraw missing Brooks like right now. Unfortunately he's away. He's on a vacation climbing a mountain. I don't know why. It sounds like painful foot time. But I'm out here right now with how men think, with the boys, with Dmitri, with Rick, who's going to be swimming tomorrow in Lake Tahoe.

Here we are surrounded by beautiful women from the Bachelor. Got a few of the ladies right here, and they have questions for us to be continued. And our next victim is Kaylin Miller, recently moved to southern California dating somebody right now, but she wants to know how men think. So what do you got for us? Um? Okay, So I want to know why you guys date women that look like your mom? What we do? I don't think that.

I didn't realize we did. Let me check. Wait a second, let me see a picture of the guy you're dating. Experience No, no, no, no no. But many men like if you look at marriages, their wives look very similar to their mother's look or look, or have personality similar qualities. Well, there's a Freudian reason for that. But I but I disagree with some of that because I don't think I've ever dated woman that looked like my mom. No, I

mean either, Yeah, I don't think I have either. In fact, I would know if I had my mom's my mom's blonde and all I if I can go back, I have dated Brunette's the whole entire time. I look more like my mom. So if I dated someone looked like my mom, it would be like I was dating my mom and I was my mom. But that happens to That happens to like sometimes we look like our significant others. Is it that? Or do you try and look like the guy's mom because you want him to that's feel

comfortable with you. You want him to walk in with the same dress on that honey? Are they are those your cut off jean shorts? Wait? Have you have you had this personal experience where somebody introduced you to their mom and you're like, mom, I mean, this didn't come out of nowhere, So no, I've observed it. It's never I don't think it's ever happened to me specifically, but I've observed it with many people. Are you sure you just weren't looking at guys who are standing next to

their sisters with their mom right there. And and it's a little bit off topic, but I see people that look like their dogs. Dogs look like that, Rick, Do I look like you're giving me a bunch of crap for my speedo, but look like my dog Rick. No, I don't. I don't know yet, give me a little more time. Maybe you'll have to see us next to each other. But it's like you look like your significant other or you look like your significant other's mom, right

correct or sometimes reverse? So like I'll date someone who looks like my dad. I never have, but that happens with that's more common than the mom thing. Yeah, the mom thing. Are you really looking like them? Or are you going to Bloomingdale's and getting makeovers next to them with them by the same makeup artists and think, oh my god, we look so much like That's what it is that could be it. I have a feeling that the women date men that look like their dad's I

think that's more common. That's I'm sure that's got to be more common. But I'm the only one that I'm but date men that look like they're dad. If the thing is that they marry their father's personality personality wise though more so, No, because I gotta be honest this whole. Because if it's the body thing, that's great because I don't have to exercise. Then like, who, I look like you're dead, right, I'm gonna make come on, Billy, you look like you're am I there yet all I'm doing

this for you. Oh, this is the whole. This is weird. I think question, but I think it's weird. It's weird. But you guys have never experienced that, Like you've never seen it. The other thing I have not the other thing. I've seen not like that, though, Like I have, like my wife has. I feel like I have fairly small face structure, you know, like eyes, ears, knows, whatever, and

she has kind of the same thing. Whereas, like I don't see very often where like there's a male or a man that has small face features or body or whatever, and he's got a wife that's got just like a huge noggin, you know, just a massive head, you know, I don't see that. I see them normally going towards people that have like physical physical things. I don't know. I think a dog. I think I am turning red. He's like, have you ever noticed how vegetables sometimes look

like celebrities. It's, you know, like a carrot when it's got the extra spat on it, and it looks like the guy's hair, and he's like he loves carrots. I once had a grilled cheese looked like Elvis. Is this is what we're talking about? Do you have any other questions for us? Is there one that you were afraid to ask us? I mean there's like looks scared to me. No, I'm kidding. But if you were to ask us a question that you'd be scared to ask us, what would

it be? I mean there's like a lot of questions. Why do you guys take so long in the bathroom? Why? Why are your hands always in your pants? Which part of our pants? She doesn't mean now just because I know you guys can't see us. She doesn't mean our hands on our pants. Wow. Like I feel like the penis talked before. It's like it's a little buddy or a big buddy, or you know, it's the other side of that. It's like it's warm, like it keeps. It's

just warm and it's comforting. Have you noticed that sometimes guys like them they called I think those are called kids. So good? So ask us another one? I like that? What else? What else? I don't know? Yes, you do, you're hiding something. I want to know what you got a question in there you don't want to ask in public. Tell it to me in my ear, them say it in the microphone. I'm trying to think. I mean, yesterday I had a male friend of mine tell me that

I looked. He's kind of appalled when I came down with makeup on. How do y'all feel about makeup? That's a great question because something else a little bit was he referring to the fact that maybe you had two little or two lasser It was like, just different too much. Well, I think it just doesn't like makeup, period. I love this question. Okay, can you ask I'm just kidding. No, I actually like this because I actually find that I tend to like I tend to prefer no makeup or

less makeup on on a woman. Um, just because I well, it's kind of like this. See, the lighting in the bathroom is different than the lighting once you step outside, different than the lighting when you step into the restaurant,

different than the lighting in the car. Wherever it is where you're putting the makeup on, you you're you're putting the makeup on according to the room you're in, right, So if you got a light out in there or the lights on one side of the room, Like someone will come out, and someone will come out all made up, and you'll see like they got more makeup on one side than the other side, and like that must look really good in that room, but out here it's actually

doing you a disservice because I personally, I want to see fundamentally, I want to see what the person really looks like, you know, And so I think it's important for us to get an honest view of what the person looks like. For for me, you know, I like it. I tend to prefer it with with less. I tend to for less makeups. Going through your day, it's starting to drip, it gets sweaty, the clogs get the pores get clogged, and put more makeup on to cover up

the stuff that's happening from the makeup. And you know, I like a natural I prefer a natural look on the skin on the face. You know who, where is the amount of makeup? My mom? Kidding, But I think it's true. I feel like if you're using it to you, you're using makeup to make yourself look prettier or or adding to your prettiness already. If you're using it to cover up something that is attractive. So like, it's okay to have a pimple, it's okay to have a scar,

it's okay to have one. So let that part go, but makeup on it a little bit. But like if you if it's noticeable that you're kicking on the whole entire whatever the things called the little circular thing where the rose or what is it called it? Sure, beauty blender, how are you talking about? And I don't know whatever it is to cover seal, to seal a pimple or

a scar. I know my makeup. And also what Rick saying, I totally understand what he's saying is if you have a pimple on the left side of your face, just walk sideways that day wherever you're going, everybody gets the right side of your face, you know, So, which I think is smart. And I think the other thing is you should bite back to whoever that friend or maybe that person was and be like, hey, so what's why,

Like why are you giving me that attitude? Why are you why are you back down on me like that? That's not cool. I don't think that's cool. He should make you feel bad, Yeah, like, you know what you're doing. I don't think that. I think he was like, you're more beautiful without It's that's that's nice. Way. What would he think of me without it? I think he would love it. He would never say, bro, way to go not make today. You're not vin You're naturally beautiful. I

feel pretty. He tries hard. I'm doing this. Guys, are really a lot of prepper working in this today. Big time. You know what I did today. I even put on deodorant before I walk into the room. Awesome, thank you so much for you were great. You look great with or without makeup. Thank you you look fabulous. Thanks, thank you for coming on another episode of How Men Think. We're coming right back after this commercial break from our sponsor. Okay,

so we're coming at a commercial break. What's up, guys? This is How Men Think. I'm your host, Gavin DeGraw co hosting with my friends right here. Brooks like isn't here today, unfortunately, But we got Rick, we got Dmitri. We're missing Ryan ye Amy Sugarman in the house making

plays and pulling the plug if she needs to. But anyway, we just had we just had one of the girls from the Bachelor on here Kayleen Miller, and she asked an interesting question about makeup, wearing makeup, not wearing makeup, and we all had opinions on that. All the guys here seem to think in general and natural look is appealing. I have to say, though, I forgot to touch on this. I have to touch on this and then I'm going to introduce our next gift because I saw that look

at the corner of your eyebrow. I forgot to mention that we're dealing with two realities now in modern society. We're dealing with our absolute reality, real life, and we're dealing with the reality of the Internet, of our social profile. Okay, our Instagram accounts are our snapchats or whatever whatever people

are using. And it tends to be that people just they know how to put their makeup on to look better on their social media accounts, and they're going about their day applying makeup, knowing that they're going to have pictures taken of them, and so their absolute public life

is different from their private life in that regard. Perhaps throughout the day they wouldn't want to put on a much makeup, but they know what makes them look best in pictures and on videos, and weirdly enough, I think some people would rather look better on their social media than they would in their every day because it's more people who are going to see exactly right. So that's something that hadn't crossed my mind but before before Kaitlin left.

So so I think we need to touch on this with our next amazing person in the house, who we will potentially give a hard time too, because we like to do that to our guests. Tasha Adams is here now. She just finished filming Bachelor in Paradise. How did you like that experience? By the way you did because you wanted out of there. I mean maybe they were like tears of joy and tears of like what the hell am I doing here? But yeah, it was your happiest moment on the show. Oh you'll just have to wait

and see. Oh yeah, was it when you found out you're gonna be coming? It was found you're going to be coming on our show. We're like, oh god, this morning, Yes, did you reapply the makeup after you? You know what? I went into the bathroom and I checked my makeup. Yes, I was like, did I wear too much? It looks great? Thank you? Thanks, you look wonderful. Thank you as always.

Now do you have an important question for the boys today? Well? Yes, since you guys were talking about beauty, I want to know what guys think about girls with like filler, botox, slip injections. Do you guys notice? Definitely definitely noticed, We totally noticed. And I actually do you guys want me to take the lead on this, because no, you're not allowed. Rick, I'm so sorry. There is a cue, Darnet, get in there man first kind of like yeah, first guy that like,

thanks Dmitri. No, I was just gonna say, I think botox from my perspective, I don't mind it. I think it's okay, Like, yeah, it kind of. I mean I look at that as sort of like a man or somebody working out, like you're trying to lose weight or you're trying to maintenance. But how about bro talks, bro talks, I've never heard of that up just now take my

bro off. But I think what really bothers me are the lip injections where you look like Daffy Duck and it's like totally obvious, totally obvious, and it's like it's just to me, it's kind of goes it's not natural looking, um like like a makeup or whatever, and so it's just to me it's kind of a turn off. And I don't understand why women want that. Look are they trying that? Are they there they trying to get something else out of that large lips or a sign of fertility? What? Okay,

go ahead? No, Well, I think girls just I think the look of like having just full lips and I don't know, you just feel I don't know, but they know that they look like daffy duck and not like having a nice, beautiful like At that point, it's kind of like you don't know, Yeah, what do we what do we do? But just keep going. Yeah, that's the problem once you start to the problem I think with botox and stuff like that is people do it. Maybe they're a little maybe they want a little something fixed

or fluffed out or whatever. But then it's like, once you do that, are you gonna keep doing? And then it's a slippery slope. Then they it just keeps going and going, and then it gets out. You've seen older people at some point where they don't you can't tell what they used to look like because they are just so there's so many injections and they keep it up and it's like, now I don't even know what we're doing ay more. Now the face is smooth and well. And that's the thing is I feel like, if it's

a maintenance thing, that's okay. But yeah, like on your eye, you know, on the side of your eyes where you have the I think they're spider or whatever, crow's feet, thank you. Um, you know. I think that type of maintenance is okay. But I feel like if you get to an extent where you're actually trying, maybe they're not trying to but changing the look of themselves, like be happy, be comfortable, be confident with how your lips or how

you are. You know, like if you're at a bar and like you see a girl and you can completely tell she has like a lot of filler and whatnot, does that like turn you off to the point where you're not going to hit on her? Yeah? I don't love it. Yeah, Yeah, I don't like really, I don't like it. It's it's she's uh, it's like you're trying too hard. Like I would probably if she was attractive in my eyes, I would and didn't have that. I would have more likelihood to go and try to pick

up on her at that point in time. But if she shows up with after the duck lips, then I don't know. That's not I don't like that. It's not hot. Okay, Okay, I have an opinion on this is it is maintenance for a lot of people, right, it's maintenance. Some people, though, get better or worse work done, so they don't necessarily have that many options just for is where they're going, who's doing it, how often they can do it. They may overdo it thinking well, it'll last longer if I,

you know, get this done right now. So but I do agree with you personally, Like I said, I like a more natural look, right, less less makeup. Um, So yeah, you're not looking for that weird that weird version of having having maintenance done, right. I think that's really what you're saying to write. Okay, changing your look is not right becoming a new person, I need a new place that by the way, that translates, that means you probably

have an insecure personality. You're not happy with who you are, and that's a difficult thing for a guy to see and want to go up to and be like, oh, this person isn't happy and they want their doing physical things to change themselves. And it's like, so now that that's a tough thing to to Like Rick had to walk across the bar and be like, oh, hey, you know, like getting attention but also like needing attention in a way in some ways if it's over the top, right,

But but can I apply that to something else? Can I ask you a question? Can I you can't apply to something else? Yes? Can I? Is there a correlation between having too much work done as far as aesthetic, lip injections, filler, etcetera, and also having like a ton of tattoos, like when someone's got the neck tattoo and tattoottoos and it's all over them. Yeah? Is that? Would that? Would that fall into the same category of somebody who's

trying to essentially reinvent themselves. I mean, I feel like girls getting worked into their faces more so about insecurity, like how you're talking about bothers them, so they want to improve that. I can't see you get it in red tattoo because you're insecure about your neck, you know what I mean? But it would it? Would it be? But could it be an exercise of I want people to look at me. I want him to see I'm hardcore.

I want him to see a version of it. So guys get the tattoos a lot of times, right, I have not a tattoo on my body. Yeah, personally I'm not. I just think real scars are free. So you know, I just have a different personality, a different perspective on those things. I'm not anti tattoo, but I noticed a lot of people they get these tattoos put on. They look almost to look scary, you know what I mean. I don't understand the appeal of looking like you're gonna

cut somebody up. Um, you know what I mean. Like some of it's just so crazy, you know, And to me, I I think they're I almost see a little bit of a correlation in that, that reinvention of self, of the whole body covered in Tat's the same way people are getting this worked under their body, that worked under their body, this worked under their face, that worked under their face. What about boobs versus I have them? I mean,

I'm so proud yet them like puppies. I mean again, if but I mean if you guys, if it's not done in moderation, like I don't. Yeah, if if it's something walking like crying, I look at those things, like if it's the thing that everybody notices when they walk in a room, then yeah, like for what, like why do you have to? Why do you have to? It's it's too much. I think it can be too much. I think it goes along the same lines. If it's

something that makes you feel good. Great, when they're the ridiculous ones and they're you know, and you can't even keep them contained in a shirt or in a bathing suit, then it's like that. But but but then again, I have to see these this from all sides. Okay, we have when they were that big, you can so good. But I do think they're okay, Devil's at pikten. Me has to see this from all sides. So it's a competitive world, right, We're all out here in this world.

It is a competitive world. We're all building careers. We have careers. We're looking for, you know, other other ways to to to evolve, right, other ways to to to win as often as we can. Right, So people need in general, everybody is looking for a way to weaponize themselves, have the best advantage, the biggest advantage. Some people may

deem that advantage aesthetically, right, the advantage is aesthetic. It could be hit in the gym, it could be getting work done, it could be getting tattoos, whatever circle they see that as being most beneficial for their victory. I see it as as them kind of taking their best stab at that thing. Right. In some poor countries, the whole family will pull their money just to have plastic

surgery done for the girls, hoping they'll marry up. You see, they're trying to they're trying to to get their children in a position to marry up, right, So they're trying to create a version of that person that gains attention immediately. Right. So so I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying that I do understand some of the reasoning for it, and just Devil's advocate here, there are reasons for it that people have. But yes, and that's what

I was saying. But that's why I was saying. But you don't win the race by having the biggest boobs, certainly not if you're swimming. So I agree with what you're saying, and I think that was my That's what I was saying is that. Yes, if that's something that you want to do or that, that's great. But when it's it's the moderation thing. It's the same thing with the botox and the lips and the thing. Yeah, do it if that's what you want to do, do it.

But when you overdo it, yes, guy's notice and from from my opinion, and I think that's what you guys said to then it does become a bit of a turn off. And I feel like tattoos or is more of an art. That's that you're you're doing something your body, probably to increase your self esteem, but also as an art, you know. And people are very arty arts and they like that, and I could give you a tattoo, would not like very arts. I've seen something. Have you seen

me draw? But yeah, I don't compare that to like the botox or already of that other But I don't look at that as like an art per se. That's more of like you're trying to change your physical self to keep going. And I'm not opposed to to fake breast, you know. I you're like kind of to Dmitri's point is it's like in moderation, you know, like, um, I like that because if that makes that individual feel good about themselves, that's totally fine. That's totally fine, you know.

And whether it's you know, triple D s great, if you feel good about that, go for it, like that's awesome. Yeah, but like some people are like born with that. There's not a flash D by the way, just saying yes, that's awkward, you know, like yeah, no, what I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be like flaunting, but I'm just like, it's my body. So like what dom I do? No? What? First of all, we're what we're saying is we're advocates of of if people are getting work done. We understand

some people want to get work done. Yeah, we also still want to know the person that's in there. We don't want that person to disappear for the sake of

their augmentations. Right. So so I think that's fun manally where we're at opinion opinion wise, And if you're naturally born with certain features that are that are that are part of your body, right and interestingly, if that is your case, then it's something you should be proud of because there are women paying a lot of money to try to get to where you are, and that's okay

to celebrate that. You understand. Yeah, no, I understand, true, But I also feel like if you play on the other side of it, say you aren't comfortable with what you have and you want to get a reduction, and and you feel better about that afterwards, Like I've seen I have friends that have done both increase and decrease and it's changed their lives, like and they feel so

good about themselves. They would a woman would have never have gotten into like a bathing suit or worn a dress that she wanted to you know for a second and um, and I and once she did that, it totally changed you. Guys can ask Anna lies about she got a reduction. So I had a breast production when I was seventeen years old, and it's actually a thing that I'm quite self conscious about, especially when I'm dating somebody new and when they see my breast for the

first time. It's definitely I guess I would have a question about Um. I mean, you can ask me whatever, but UM, I always feel like I need to announce it, like and I know that's probably it probably makes me seem like I'm more insecure about it, where I'm totally fine, but it's like, I feel like I have to explain feel better now that you have done that. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be thirty five in October, and I had it down when I was seventeen, so I've lived with

it my entire adult life. I'm happy that I did it because I think my attention from men was always in my head anyways. It was always because of my body, and I wanted people to like me for me and not because of my you know, my body, And so I'm very happy that I did it. But I there's always a bit of an insecurity. Once I'm like dating somebody for a while, I forget about that, but the initial thing is always just like I have to explain myself.

Why do feel that you need to explain it? Like, and just because my scars and I and I've had I think some insensitive reactions, and so I get insecure about, um, how men might react to it because they're not in my mind, they're not a perfect breath, like, they're not the picture of what I would like them to be

because I have scars. But at the same time I realized that men are men, and if they probably could care less, I think the right man won't have you know, like I think you're nervous about that guy having problems or you having to explain it before, right, and so I think the right man won't have problems with that, you know, like you know, like if you get to

that point, you're not always with the right man. No, but if you're trying to but that, but that's part of your screening process there is like if you're if you're out trying to find the guy that wants the airbrushed perfect look, then that's the guy you're gonna get.

And if you're and if you're looking for a genuine guy who isn't going to care about that, then you're going to find that guy but you and that will probably take off the pressure of feeling like I have to explain this, like I mean, yeah, every time before we have sex or what you know, it's like you'll know that probably or something. I'm like, by the way, like I have scars because I had a breast production. Like I feel like I only because I've had guys

go why are your boobs bruised? Or like stupid things like that where I'm like, uh, yeah, exactly. I mean that's where it's like my longer relationships. Yes, of course I'm like fully, I'm a very naked person in my own life. So if if I'm with somebody that I'm comfortable with, like, I have no problem with them seeing it. But that initial part of me is always I get

insecure about it. So here's another question. So you had this done at seventeen years old, right, and immediately upon having it done, where you where you freaked out from from the surgery? Was it free king about or was it all sort of bliss that you had removed this weight from your body, that you were sort of decent in your opinions, sort of de sexualizing your your physique right socially? Was was there was there a sort of a honeymoon phase of that or how long did that

phase last for you? Well? I went to college and I put on a lot of weight and I went right back to my boobs. So the honeymoon phase was short. But I did love it, and I'm very happy that I did it. I have no regrets about doing it. Um, I did feel like other than your self conscious now when you when you become intimate with someone for the first time exactly, Um, I did feel like when I would get to know people, they got to know me a lot more than just being like this is like

the blonde girl with the big boobs. That's what I always was. So there was more to me all of a sudden, and I was like, oh, I like this, and people got to know me. I understand. Yeah, that's interesting. It's it's amazing to me how how I think. I guess I don't feel it. I don't know if it's as a guy, I don't feel it, or because like I'm a guy who doesn't exercise, I don't feel it.

So you know. Um, So it's amazing to me that that as a female, you felt so in a in essence, so over sexualized socially, Like in fifth grade, I was already like a sea cup. So that was all I knew was being that girl who was sexualized always, and I was always Yeah, I always was like a tease or the slut or the girl who was stuck up because I was pretty. And I was like, there's so much more to me that people are putting me in a box because they are not taking the time to

actually get to know me. Meanwhile, the girls who were teasing you at that time have all had boob jobs done since go go wrap your head around that one. So the thing is, let's be real, the thing that made you uncomfortable, you fixed to not feel uncomfortable about it, but in turn, you're still you're still worried about it. Now you're worried about it in a different version exactly, and so you're insecure about it. And I think what we're what we're saying here is I think you just

gotta forget about that. Find find the person that's not good, like you don't have to explain that to you know what, you know what I really love though I'm sorry and I cut you off, but I feel like um with social media, with the platform of being on the Bachelor, one thing that is so freeing is being able to like talk about things like this. I feel like now that it's in the public, I've done like post about

my breast production. I've had so many people reach out to me and and really relate, and it's made me feel less self conscious about it because i know that I'm not alone and I'm very open about it now. I talked the same way about having my biceps shrunking and my chest muscles, my giant last because I was so hunky every time I would walk into a room and I would hear girls themselves like they're in Baptist church.

You know, I think, you know, I've got to get this working on because I'm getting a little bit too much attention, you know, plus with the dog Lady Killer, so I had to get this everything kind of miniaturized. Um. And when when Rick jumps right now, when Rick jumps in the lake tomorrow, he's going to have a testical production. Those things are gonna shrink up right in front of

all of us. By the way, speaking of can we get what I don't know what time it doesn't how can we get to how men think tattoo on your back for when you're swimming tomorrow? Yes, so we turn that around and just put it right on the shoulder, on the side, right here. Perfect. I like that. That's a good idea. I love it. You know what, you

can see all of your greatness. So first of all, I have to thank you for coming on onto the show and and talking about any any types of insecurities, any types of concerns, particularly dealing with the opposite sex. I think that this is this is part of the the sort of like these conversations that never really happened often enough socially because we've all sort of segregated ourselves in the gender way, you know, the girls talk about the girls stuff, the boys talk about the boys stuff.

We don't have enough of these sort of round table combos where we're kind of bouncing these ideas back and forth and revealing to each other that we're just as insecure as you are about about certain things, you know what I mean, and and and but also the fact that there are things you can do about your insecurities,

you know. And in the beautiful age of modern science, if something's bothering us, we could be like I could probably get this work done right now, Like right now, there's a place I'm going to do a go to a walking clinic to fix my nose, you know, and it's a bad one, but it'll be some version of fixed. Or my teeth my crooked teeth, you know, get these things whitened. Uh But anyway, Oh, by the way, you know, I've read this incredible story and I think it was

in Japan. It said, um that there were dentists who or dentist orthodontists who are actually uh doing dental dental work to create more crooked teeth rather than more perfect teeth, because people were tired of looking like everybody else, you see. So I think that there's there is almost no there's no end to the amount of things we can be self conscious about. And I think that kind of is

a social lesson, which is everybody has issues. Some people have issues of actually looking too perfect, and some people have issues of not looking perfect enough. And I think this, this is a fundamental social issue, would exists in every single culture. You know, if there's another planet somewhere, it's happening there too. Yeah, he lasered those things off, you know, and they'll grow him back. Well. Anyway, this has been a great Thank you Tasia as well for coming on

the show. Tasha Adams, Crystal Nielsen, Kaylyn Miller, Analyst Puccini, Ashley Connetti, Connettie Believe. Anyway, it's been awesome having you guys on How men think. I'm gavin to graw and we'll see you next time with Dmitri, with Rick, not with Brian, not with Brooks, with Amy pulling the plug on me when I say dumb it. See you later, Hey, guys, It's Brooks and one last thing before we let you go.

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