How Men Think with Gleb Savchenko

that how men think? So let's get started. Producers put me in the hot steed and I have to answer all of these eleven questions that are in front of me, and let's start a question number one? What are you known for? Tell us about yourself what I'm known for. I mean, I'm hot Russian professional board dancer and dancer with the stars. That's what I'm known for. But I'm also a girl that I have two beautiful daughters living just turned eleven yesterday actually, and I have a lot

who's four years old. Um, and you know my life is around them and dance and that's what I've pretty much like known for. And um yeah, who are you in your personal life? Who am I in my personal life? Oh? What does it mean? Mean? Like I don't even know who are you in the person? Like I think, um, you know I am, you know, I'm a dad. Number one. I think I'm I've been. I'm dreaven always to be

a better person every day. I come from nothing. Uh and I'm in Hollywood living literally in American dream Like if you would like it would have more time, like I would tell you, like my whole life story, which is I think it's pretty crazy, but um yeah, I just I'm just just a regular normal guy with two kids saying go and you know, trying to trying to teach celebrities to chat to walk. What three TV shows are you binge watching right now? That's a good one, Um,

the three D TV shows? So I would say number one. I'm still like it's an older show, but I think like if someone like I haven't watched it as the money has, I'm obsessed with the show. I think it's an incredible show. The recent one that I just watched is with Game also Super Sick, Like I love that show. And the one that I just started watching is The Made.

I think it's like a pretty like a intense show that kind of like actually, you know, see what's going on with like people with other people like where they're going through. You know what I mean is it's like it's a really beautiful shot at and produced. I think it's a really good show. What is your favorite food? What's my favorite food? What's my favorite food? I think pizza. I love pizza like I love any kind of pizza. I think I can eat pizza every day. Um yeah,

that's like my favorite food. I know it's really bad. It's like super healthy. And I supposed to represent like a health and wellness and I was like pizza, you know, so yeah, I love pizza. Tell us about your career. Okay, my career. Um, look, my career is pretty crazy. I you know, I grew up a mom originally from Moscow, Russia. Grew up with mom and dad, and they kind of put me in the dance gas and I started, you know, dancing, and by the age of thirteen fourteen, I knew it

was gonna be my career. Like in my culture is like if you do something for a specially for parents, and they probably put me in dance colleges because they wanted to keep me off the streets and like you know, for kids to do something, but then they push you. They push you so hard that it becomes your you know, like it becomes you know, something that you do, and then you have to do it great and you have

to put all your energy into it. And I danced with all my life and then then moved to different country a lot via I dance there with a girl

represent the country for a couple of years. Uh. Came back to Russian kind of at the age of seventeen eighteen, I realized I was like, I don't really want to do dance anymore, Like there's like, you know, I only spend money because there's no like price, uh money for the competitions, and that was like a Russian champion at that time, Like you always have to travel on your with your own expand you have to take lessons, you have to buy coustomes, buy shoes, so it becomes like

an expensive hobby. So it doesn't give you unless you teach. But and with teaching, like in Russia, like you can to really make anything. So I was like, I gotta do something. So I became a fitness dance fitness instructor in one of the fitness centers in Moscow, and one um kind of mine and she came up to me after the class. She was like, have you ever tried modeling? And I was like, no, never tried modeling. She was like, I'm gonna take you to model agency. So she brought

me to model agency. I uh, I started doing modeling and became like super successful. Like I was like on every cover of the magazine in Russian doing music videos and with this, and like I was like, oh my god, like I'm gonna be the next breath pit. But for me to become an ex breath pit, I have to move to America, you know what I mean. So I was like great, So I moved to America and I lived in New York for about three years. I did uh, I did modeling, and I kind of keep myself going.

I was doing UM still talking they studio UM, and that's actually the time when dance start. As you just started to remember in on the time score that they build this huge glass box where me and my partner were like promoting this we'll start of this new brand new TV show where UM coming up. What's your biggest fear in life? Heights? I'm afraid of heights. I'm like super scared of heights. What makes you the most happy.

I think just the time with family and kids, and like what makes me most happy is the positive people, the energy, you know, like every person has its own energy, and you know, I just love being around good people with good energy and interrupt and just have this good vibe that look like makes me super happy. What's your

biggest pet? Peeve um? I'm like I have like a major O C D. Like I hate when someone washes the dishes and they don't like wipe the sink around, like if they if I could see like splashes of water around the sink, that frets me out, like I can't do it, and here like I can't like it. That's like Scott now like like if I stay here on the floor, was like, what is your ideal Saturday morning? Oh my god, what's my ideal Saturday morning? Listen? Simple

sipping a champagne on the boat and central pain. I've never done this, but that will be ideal on Saturday morning. Are you more of the athlete or the armchair quarterback? I'm more than I'm more an athlete. I'm super active. Yeah. And lastly, what keeps you motivated? What keeps you motivated? Never never being satisfied with with it's always like it's weird because and that's like something that I think it's either um like uh like a cultural thing or the

way we've been like I've been brought up. It's like it's not being negative, but it's not being satisfied hundred percent because so you think like, oh you can like I always can do better, right, so like you can do better than like you could have like even like sometimes like let's simple example, right, like we we do with dance performing dance right, and dance goes great, We've got great scores on the show or something, but then I look at the video like and I'm never ever

satisfied like, oh, that was awesome, you know, Like I told myself to do that because I'm working with someone who's never danced before. So I have to be positive and be like, oh that was great, you know, like actually when I look at it, even for myself, I'm like this one could have been like this one could have been better. So that keeps you motivated just to be better in junior, you know what I mean, Like with everything I do. Alright, guys, so we're gonna take

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we think is acceptable single behavior. Good question find out on the almost Famous podcast on our Heart Radio and wherever you listen to podcasts. Al Right, guys, let's get to our first caller and uh yeah, here we go. Hi. My question would be, Um, do men ever learn to communicate better on their own? To communicate that? I think, yeah,

hundred percent. I think it's all about self improvement and if he I think, for it depends on the person again, but for me personally, I think over the years, like I've learned a lot of things, you know, and it's not you know, you want to improve yourself and just be better for the person that you're with, you know

what I mean. I think it's like super important, um, not just to just to communicate, you know, and listen, like always try to like listen that you know, whoever is in front of you trying to tell you something. You know, um, and let the person speak and like try to like understand, not like stand like be stubborn like no, no, like you know, but like try to understand what this person is trying to tell you, because it's you know, it's important to hear. It's important to hear,

and it's important to listen. That's how you can, you know, improve yourself otherwise to just being like super closed off. And you know what do you think, Emma, you agree with me? Yeah? But does that come in part with growing with your partner? Do you think like a man could understand how to communicate with a girl better without

having their partner instruct them or get criticism from them. Well, there's the situations, right, there's situations like give me an example, right, let's stay with dating, right, and you want to go somewhere for Christmas and I don't want to go somewhere for Christmas? Right, So what do we do talk about exactly? We talk about it, and we decide and let listen, you tell them your opinion why you want to go there.

Like they'll be like, listen, maybe we'll go to you know, to a lake or something, or go to Mexico or something like that. So it's it's all about the conversation. I think people need to have a conversation and be able to hear each other, do you know what I mean? So like putting yourself on that person's place and be like, well, I understand where they come up, unless there's like a ridiculous like you know, so, I mean that makes sense. I guess it also depends on the stage of where

you are in a relationship. If you guys are together or just beginning to talk, well, I think it doesn't matter. I think if you if you're married for fifteen years or you just start dating. Do you know what I mean? It's it's always gonna be something like, but it's just a different like how you're saying. It's a different stage of the conversation, do you know what I mean? But

there's always that you have to always me. If you don't like something, tell me and I'll be like no, no, no, like or I'll be like okay, cool, yeah, like okay, I'll whatever. But thanks for calling. I appreciate your good question. Thank you appreci All right, here we go the next color. Hannah. Hi, Um, my question is I'm wondering if it is considered a red flag if you talk about an ex boyfriend or girlfriend on a first date. I mean, it depends how

you talk about it, do you know what I mean? Like, so I went on a date, uh, and I actually had a conversation with the girl who I'm actually seeing now on the first day. We talked about my action. I've been married for fifteen years, but I'm we're super cool now have to divorce. But I think it's not It depends on if you're positive and you're genuinely nice person and you're like, it's not like unless you're like shooting on someone, then that would be like, oh, that's

so weird. Like if he talks about her like that, like what he's going to talk about me or something like that, that's you know. I think it depends on the person really, But what do you think I think? I mean, I think I've been on dates in the past where they ask if I've been in relationships before, and I've always been hesitant to answer yes or no because I don't want them to think I'm talking about my ex boyfriend too much. I tell you this straight on.

You gotta be you gotta be straightforward, You've gotta be honest. And if he's okay to that, he's cool because then you can take it to the next level or whatever. But if you're like trying to hide something or not to say something or choose the words how you say, that's already not like a real thing because you're trying to like cater like to someone who you're know I really are you know what I mean? You always have to be yourself and just be like, Yo, I've been

on twenty five thousand dates did not work. Hopefully you're the one because I like or something. Just be super cool yeah, and be like I think personally, you know what I mean, if we're going the date and they'll be like okay, Hannah, how many relationships serious relationships have you had in the past. I'm asking like four four How that was the last relationship? How long was your last relationship? Six months? Six months? Why would you guys

break up? Just what some red flags? I think on his part and maybe my part, we just weren't a

good match. Well, you see, for me, if I would be on the date with you, that's not like a straightforward answer, Like I know, it's there's a lot of personal stuff, but eventually, like I would want to know what was the red flags, because then me coming from like a genue, like a good you know, like a good, like a like a you know what I mean, like being me like I would wanna maybe I don't make those kind of mistakes or something like that, Like there's

always you know, just honest, so they know, because like life is too short. Why do I want to waste now with someone that is not telling me the truth of trying to be who not they're not really are or whatever, because then it's like, you know, there's no point. No, that's that's great advice. I'm definitely gonna gonna remember that. Thank you so much. Thank you, thanks for a question. Have a nice day you too. We got the next question. Hi, Hi tomorrow. It's so good to me. You nice to me.

It's too Um well i'll jump into my question. I don't know how much time I have, so I'll get right in. Uh dating, of course. Um, it's all about dating. The older I get, the harder it is, the more I'm confused at how forward I should be with men, especially on a first date. So I'd love your take on how much you think I guess women should put out there with what their needs and wants in a partner, especially on the first date or two, right, So I

think it really depends on the person. So do you I want to go and have nice dinner in the conversation with someone, or do you want to go and get play? Do you want to have a good time and go to a movie? And because well, because I'm just saying how it is, you know, we're all humans. We'll all want to have sex, we all want to eat, the world all want to sleep, you know, so like

what's your intention? I think if you're like stupid, straightforward, then they're like, yo, you don't want to do that because that will be like, oh my god, like does she do that with every single guy that she goes

on a date with. But then at the same time, they're like there's always a moment during that evening or dinner over drinks where you kind of like you feel that moment where like that's the time where I'm either like taking it to a different like level if you again, if you like that, right, but a hundred percent agree with you, Like it's so freaking hard when you get older to like to because eventually it's not about like and I think I'm just speaking for myself, I don't

know how other guys like, they're different, Like some of my friends are like stay single, you know, like have like you know, blah blah blah, Like you know, do you think? And for me, it's not about this. It's all about the good vibes. Like if I have a good vibe with the person and like we're just you know, chilling and it's all like really really connected, that's a very different so and like the sex is just becomes an addition to that, right, But I think, yeah, again,

it's what you want. What do you want? Well, I mean, everyone tells me to stay single, so I'm like, but as I'm dating, I'm like, this is fun and I exactly like you said, I want to be able to um enjoy it and have a friendship and see where that leads. But then I'm also thinking, okay, do I tell them I actually want to see how far this goes. I'm looking for a life partner. So does that scare the person at the get go? Um? You know it's not. I think depends what It depends what this person wants.

You know, this person wants just to have fun, and you'll be like, Okay, cool. We can have fun, right, but then you know, yeah, yeah, then it's not meant today. Yeah, just take it, take take a step by step, you know what I mean. And but always always think about like also like don't waste your time, you know what I mean. If you see he's like a player, like you know, you know, he's like one day he's with you, and then you call him, he doesn't pick up the phone,

and he knows. He like there's like like I know, something like making up stories be like oh yeah, like I'm so sick because he's out in the movies with his friends. So he doesn't really value you as you know that much. So for him, you are as just a fun moment like fun, you know, so then you listen, cool, see you later. Hard to get into that guy's mind, but I know we have to trust it's actually not We're we're very primitive, Like we're very primitive. We're not

like very complex. You guys are more complex. Girls are more complex. You're like overthinking, you're in your head. You create that like it's like a moment like I and I've noticed that it was like there's like a little thought of something. You create this huge story with like row to the left road to what if he did this? Oh my god. And then it's actually like just because my phone was on silence and I was driving and I wasn't parking my car in the garage, and that's it. Yeah, yeah,

don't overthink it. Well, thank you for that. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Good. Okay, all right, I see you too. Hello, Hi, good. I love the art behind you. I love it so much. How are you doing today. I'm doing great. I'm better now that I'm talking to you. Thank you. I feel the same way. So I'm supposed to just ask the question, is that

how we do it? Yeah, ask me anything, not really, But because I'm a counselor, I feel like, um, the stigma about counseling and therapy is like even deeper when

it comes to men's health. So my question for you is, I guess maybe a little bit selfish for me to help connect with men, but what do you think that we as counselors can do to kind of bridge that gap and and let men know that this is a good place for them to be, you know, like maybe content to put out there or just kind of ways to cater to the the problems that men have so that it looks attractive to go to counseling and get

that help. I'm dunk counseling twice. But I think the way it's been done it was very and that was like something that when uh, we both were trying to save about the marriage, it was like I would say, three years ago, oh uh and uh it was just done in a very weird way because I wasn't to her and uh, I remember I was literally during the day,

like we did it like twice a week. I had to go in the audience, like when there's no like there's no audience in the theater, it's just to be quiet, like it's an empty theater, it's dark, and my ex wife would be in the room with a person, you know what I mean. So it was pre COVID, so it felt like it felt like because we're trying to figure it out, like we were trying to figure it

out us, what's happening, you know what I mean. And it felt to me that the you know, that person was like almost on her side, like they were trying to like figure it out me instead of figured out us. So I think for me at that moment was very unfair because you know, I'm a human too. I have my voice, like I wanna, I have my opinion, and no one it's perfect. So it's not like you do

everything right and I do everything wrong. Let's fix me for you a lot, right, So to me, it felt that I was kind of like I just gave up, was like, listen, there's no point doing it because it just doesn't work, Like I don't want you to fix me because we need to fix us. You know, it's it's not you know. So it was harder for me to open up, right, let's put it this because I

felt that was like a very different, different thing. But I think for the man, I think it's a good thing to be able to share and be like be

completely vulnerable. But not a lot of guys can't do that because we're tough, you know, where the guy like where you know, like, but at the same time, we're very soft where you know, we have that soft side like and I'm sure every single person has, you know, like when there's a baby is born, like we're like, oh my god, there's like you know, we do have that.

So I think it's it should be just like a normal thing just to be like, guys shouldn't be scared, to be vulnerable and be open and be just real because no one's judging. Really, So it sounds like it's like, you know, just knowing that it's a it's about getting to know you, you know, more than having to fix you. Is that well, I think it's I think a person needs to get to the point where he says, like, I'm actually ready for therapy. I actually want to go, like I need it myself, Like I need to talk

to someone. But everyone is so different. We're all like we're also different, you know what I mean. There's not like the same people ever. So I think it's really depends on the person. But to actually to talk someone of like being hurt and like because I always wanted to have that person like a third perspective looking at my life, looking at my situation from aside and be

like this is what you need to do. Because people are professional, like you are your professional in your craft, like you study all of this and like there's like me, I have no clue and you think about it like I can teach you about a rundle walk and how to tangle, but I can't figure out the problem because it's actually depends how you look at it, and they're the keys, like their tools to fix it. Right. So I think for for God to just be like open to too open to help, you know what I mean,

because I think it's important. I think every single person needs help. Every single one needs help. But to realize that and phase that and deal with that, you have to get to that point, I think. So I think I feel for me like I'm trying to reach people before they get to the point because right now, I mean, to be honest, the suicide rate is twice as high for men that it is for women. So it's kind of like, how do we reach men before they get

to that, you know, desperation point? You know, how do we like kind of get you to want to go to counseling before? And you know, I think it's what you said before, the tough guy thing. I mean, I know that that exists. And the men that I do work with, I mean, once I get them in the door, we're good, you know, like it's they they love it. It's great, you know, being able to be exactly like you said, open honest, knowing that I'm a neutral third party.

I'm literally just here like, whatever your problem is, I'm here to help you with your problem. I don't care what other people say, but I feel like it's hard to try to convey that so that men are looking for it and saying, hey, I want to be heard. Let me go to a counselor so that I can be heard. Right, I mean, it's really hard, It's really hard. So Vanessa, thank you for a question. Thank you so much. All Right, you guys, So that was our last failer

of Vanessa was flash of talking to her. She was awesome. Um, it was a very deep conversation. But we're gonna take a little break and when we come back, we're gonna do with a cute and so glad. We had a bunch of our listeners d MS email us, UM, a bunch of questions for you. So are you ready? Yeah, let's do it. Let's get to it. Okay. The first question is gleb, you give off a very sexy vibe. How do you do that? Is there a secret? Is that something you learned or we're taught it's just my

hair flip seem just joking, I mean, sexy vibe? How do you know? You know? Why? Don't know? It's just first of all, First of all, whoever asked that question? I really appreciate that. Thank you, um stop stop stop. But I don't know, it's just thanks mom, and that I guess, like you know, I always try to like look after myself, like I work out and I tried to eat healthy, and you know, it's just I think sexy is not just the look, but also how like how you feel about yourself, you know what I mean,

and just how you like carry yourself. I don't know, Honestly, I'm really shy to answer to this question because I don't like I'm like, I don't think I'm like sexy. But anyone thinks what makes a woman sexy? What attracts you the most? And what's the first thing you notice what makes the woman sexy? I think it's an I think it's an attitude, you know. I think it's at the way she cares herself. Um. And also I think the conversation, like the intelligent woman and a nice conversation.

I think it's super sexy. That's like what for me, like I would be really attracted to um, smile, eyes, legs. When do I introduce my new boyfriend to my kids? When do you think it's the right time to do that. One is too soon, not just for my kids, but for my new boyfriend. Is it overwhelming for the man to meet the children? Wow? Okay, So it's funny because I went on a date with my current girlfriend. I went on a date. It was the fourth of July

and on the fifth of July, master daughter. But for me, as I have already two girls, so it's kind of like a normal thing, like she's a single mom, she has a daughter, and like the next day went to grab some actually pizza. Um, it's I think for kids, like it's like it's like like you might be a little confused, but like if you explain, now, that's my

friend and whatever. Here's the thing. I think if it's something that you're not sure about and you don't think that, oh he's this guy is gonna stick around, like you know, maybe it's not very serious or whatever. If you don't, if you're not sure, don't do it. If you're sure that you know you really like this person, this person really likes you and you know he's just a good guy. Um,

it's okay. And I think it's to actually talk and be like super straightforward saying like, oh, I have children, Like I have a kid's never hide it ever, because then the moment he finds out, like myths later that you have a kid, then you'll be like what the ha, Like you should have told me that on the first day, you know what I mean. So but now this I

think everything is like social media. So like if you're if he goes on your profile and you have pictures with you, don't like he already knows that you have children, you know, like he'll he'll be a cool You'll feel the you know, you'll feel the energy from me, like if he wants to talk to continue talking to because he doesn't mind that he likes it that your mom.

The same thing for a guy too, you know, like there are a lot of I mean, forgot maybe it's a little different, but for a girl, yeah, I think just you'll feel like I think each person individually will feel when it's the right time. That's my opinion. What are the challenges of dating as a single dad? Oh my god, as a single like, I mean, it's just kind of scary to be out there and like date because you know, you know, like I don't want to waste my time and I think it's like you never know.

It's like a like you go on the date, it's like a box of chocolate. Like, you know, I've been married for a fifteen years, so I've never like really dated until like really recently. Uh and you know, I've went on a few dates. And he was like, you never know who you're gonna get, Like you remember that moving forwards dump like when you have the box of chocolate katies and like you pick and you never know

what's inside. That's exactly what you're getting. Like and then I thought, like I was like I went to like this expensive restaurant, like and I'm sitting with a person and I'm like not having a good time and not because there's something wrong with her, like she's beautiful and whatever, but is there's no connection you know what? Even like why am I wasting my time? Like you know, I could have been home with kids and you know, uh,

be with them and spend time with them. So like there were moments like I kind of dated, dated, dated, and then I stopped for like two months and like I didn't do anything, you know what I mean, because I felt like such a waste of time and it's you know, it's it's but at the same time, you have to try otherwise you will never find out, do you know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, so it's a really deep question, guys. Really, I have no idea how I answer it. Is when should you become

Instagram official? Do you guys even care about being Instagram official? I think when you know, it's like when you know it's right, you know it's right, you know. And I don't remember exactly at the time, but I was always kind of like, you know, it's like I'm dating this girl, like you know, like and it's cool. So like there's nothing like I don't need to hide anything, do you know what I mean? Like why would I want to hide? Like that's my life, you know, And that's like that's

my Instagram, that's my social media. I can both whatever I want there, so and that's part of my life. And you know, I just don't remember. It was like a few months in, I guess something like that. Everyone asks why do men cheat? But what do you really think is a boredom with your current partner or are there signs that things with your current wife or girlfriend are over? Well? I think whoever thinks that everyone cheats is wrong. Not everyone cheats. Uh, And again, cheating might

be a very different in a very different form. It doesn't necessarily have to be like, uh, go and sleep with someone you know. It could be you know, a connection, It could be an attraction, it could be thoughts, it could be something else, you know, and I guess, I guess.

It's like it's a hard relationship, was a really hard work because you always need to be open and always needs to not get sucked into like daily routine, especially like when the young especially happens a lot like when the young parents when they're like when there's just a newborn baby, Like wife is at home, she's going on like after pregnancy depression. He's working hours at work, he comes back home. Everything is just a mass. There's like

diapers everywhere, and like he's like, oh my god. So besides that, you have to both of you need to like find it's kind and spend time together and just dedicate that time to each other and kind of almost like take that step back how you were when you've met two you know, to have that because then in the moment you lose and you know, she might like the guy might not be because you know, like it's hard, like especially with kids, like you have one life, you

like have this like period of your dating dating dating that you get engaged, super excited, you're in love, you're in love, and then you get buried. Like there's a huge party, you know, on holiday, everything is amazing. That you get pregnant and then nine months and there's a baby and this whole world that you had before crashes. But then you still work through, Like I think, I mean, this came super bad, Like it's not doesn't crash. It's

a beautiful thing to everybody. But what the baby comes with it, Like, it's a lot of it's a lot of work. And if you don't have help like in nanny or grandparents or something, it's really hard. So I think just be like always open with the and if you don't if you don't have something, if you're not satisfied with something like so coovide, you know, and then figure it out and if it doesn't work, don't waste

your time. If it doesn't work, don't waste your time because you have your only one life that has given to you and it's so precious for you, and don't do it for the kids. Does things together for the kids, because kids gonna grow up, they're gonna leave, and they're gonna be even happier if the parents are happening, because you know, we create our own happens. Okay, last question for you. Do you think men change or are you essentially the same guy you were in high school? And

if you have changed? How I think every single person changes with age, with time, we all change. We all have different values in life. We all learned, we become wiser, we become you know, more experienced in life. We we deal the situations differently. How like you know, different situations. When you were in college, you do situation the same situation that you know in one way, and now you would do it a different way just because you're already

more experience in life. I think we're all changed. Is just the word that you need to do on yourself. Uh, that is important, and but you have to really go with your gut feeling which you really want. And that's I think really important for every single person. Like if you lie to yourself and doing something that you really don't want to do, eventually, it's not gonna work, you know, So if you don't feel it, just don't do it. You know what I mean, You guys, thank you so much.

The time is up, I gotta go, but thank you for listening. I had a blast. It was a lot of fun talking to you, answering all your questions. Uh. You can find me on Instagram, webs of Chenko Official, on Twitter, lebt under Sports of Chenko UM and also come see me on tour. Were you going on tour? UM? Starting Jor the seventh in Richmond, Virginia and we're going all the way through March twenty seventh of March, the last shows in California. So UM. Anyway, lots of love.

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