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And I love having co hosts on who are also hosts because I actually just get to learn from them, and it's great to have great to have people that actually have skills there, whereas Gavin has no idea what we ever do on this show. And then too, we are diving into your guys thoughts. You have sent us

emails and questions. These are the top things that people are thinking the most about right now, and we are going to get into all of these questions and thoughts and we are going to give you the male perspective on these. So joining me today. He's best known as the host of NBC's four time Emmy Award nominated hit competition series American Inja Warrior, which I have never been on, but I'm dying to go on. And so he's gonna invite me on this show. Welcome to the show, Mr

Matt Eisman. How are you doing, Buddy Brooks. I'm good to be. I'm super excited too. And by the way, if you only said you were excited, I would have been. I would have known that doesn't mean anything. You need to be super excited every if I if I listened to like any show, if I go back and listen to any show, it's like, I'm super excited for the show. You find your Yeah, you say that a lot. People always pointed out though. That's the wonderful thing is the

people listening love to point out the things we do right. Yeah, It's just honest. It's it's like going I used to go back and review game tape and you'd see like patterns and tendencies. Now when I go back and I listened to podcasts and like, oh, I say that a lot. Oh, I say that a lot. It's because we do one podcast a week and I kind of forget about it, get to the next show, and then it's like, I haven't done a podcast in a week. I'm super excited.

You are super excited. It's genuine. Also, Buddy, um, your boy bar has been on the show, so I'm gonna have you. Yeah, he's actually hosting Miss USA, uh coming up. He's out in Graceland. Yeah, he's he's doing it out there in uh In, in Memphis. So he's busy out there and I'm here. But I'm telling you how men think right now? This This is why we're here, buddy,

that's what we're here for. Um. Also a question for you, because you have done everything in TV, how did you pivot from having a medical degree to I'm gonna go do TV. Ken Jong and I are the two. We're trying to figure it out. I have no we certainly wasn't planned. I mean I was so, I'm a doctor. I went to medical school, I was practicing medicine, and then honestly, it came down to I realized my heart wasn't in medicine. And it's not a job. It's a calling.

It's not a job that you just punched the punch the clock and do. So I decided I gotta take a break. I have to figure out what's going on because I'm not helping my patients, I'm not helping myself. I've done stand up a couple of times in med school, and I thought, all right, I could go be a scheme bum, I could go travel the world or whatever. And I thought, no, I'm gonna go to l A do comedy for a year, grow up, go back be

a doctor and being a responsible human being. And instead, twenty years later around here in l A like live in the Green, How did that? I love? I love that for so many reasons. One, you bet on yourself and you went and you made it happen. I love That's what I always encourage people, bet on yourself. Um, but too was everybody in your world be like you're crazy, Matt. You crazy? You have you have a medical degree, you're

a doctor. You're going out to l A to do stand up my uh my friends were all like, no, you're at least the seventeenth funniest one of us, Matt. This makes total sense that you're gonna go be a comedian. Honestly. The crazy thing was I think my friends probably thought you'll outgrow this. The hardest part. My dad's a doc. He's uh, he's a professor medicine, world renowned physician. He

used a professor at the University of Colorado. Right was doing my residency and that That was the hardest part was telling him because I thought I thought my dad was just gonna be devastating, just disappointed, heartbroken, right or think you're nuts, you're not gonna go. But when I told him, I was leaving, and then I wanted to try comedy. First words, he said, where life is short, do what makes you happy, and it's it was. It

was a weight was lifted, but it's it's been. The best advice I got is is to go after it. And what you said is something I always say too, is bet on yourself, because you could bet on a career like health care is always going to be stable. You could bet on you know, living, working in the family business, whatever it is, or bet on your passion, bet on yourself. And I always felt like, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna take a swing, you gotta you

gotta go for it. And and I love that. I think betting on yourself is the way it motivates you. And it's also it's the way you put your head on the pillow at night and go, all right, I'm doing I'm doing what I'm passionate about. So how did you? I love it, buddy, and I hope our listeners like really received that when they hear that UM question for you? Then, how did you get from stand up comedy to like, then you won the Apprentice and now you host, you

host American Ninja Warrior, American Ninja Warrior June. You're UM and you have an extensive like TV career? How did you pivot from comedy into that? So I think you know another. Another thing I say is say yes to everything, and my my approach has been UM. There are so many talented people in any industry, but particularly in entertainment. And if you're sitting on your ass thinking I'm so talented, people are gonna find me. They're not gonna come knocking

because there are other people beating the doors down. And the thing I found was I initially came out. I thought he was gonna do stand up comedy, that I was doing some sketch comedy and thought I'd be a sitcom actor. But somebody came in and said, hey, we want to submit you to host this show. And this was back in two thousand four, and I said yes. And that show only lasted a season, but it led to UH it was a game show, and it led to a home makeover show, and it led to Sports

Supersports comedy show, and that led to Ninja. Whereas that first hosting job I got led to the job I have now and and you know that got me on Celebrity Apprentice, and and so many things have come about from from saying yes, and and and and being being the kind of person people want to work with, and and that is showing up working your ass off, being professional when things don't work out, saying hey, I appreciate the opportunity, or if it doesn't work out right, then

realize life is a marathon. So something might not work out in the short term, but it could come to you know, six months later, five years later, ten years later, that can come back. And so I think for me, I've always tried to say every opportunity, I'm going to go in there and and hope that they would want to work with me again, because it's just been a gift. It's been awesome, but it's gonna go away, and I need to figure out how do I land that next show.

I hope it doesn't go away for a long time. But it's that idea of you're always you're always kind of looking for the next thing, And I think the way to do it is to to try to find those people and that you really connect with because I think there's there really is a power in networking of

of connecting with people and building relationships. Uh that can that can manifest in ways you don't even understand, but I think it's and and it's helping people out to like doing a favor for somebody and you know, not expecting anything, but but building that goodwill because I I

see it. I've seen it. I've been out here for over twenty years now, and I've seen how those little kindnesses and those little efforts and those things overall, it just builds that momentum that you need to survive to any business, but particularly one that's as insane. Is this one right? And it's it's the same, it's no different in professional sports. Um intangibles. As you kept speaking, I kept thinking about intangibles. Is this person a good person

in the locker room? Are they a good person to every single person in the building, the security staff, the dorm and everybody, the trainers, the medical staff, the intangibles? Are you respected? Do you show up? Are you on time? Are you played? Are you courteous? Just like do you invest in other people? Do you ask people about their day, their life, their family, and all of those intangibles come back. Like you said, maybe it's not next year, maybe it's

five years from now, maybe it's ten years. Maybe it doesn't. But you invested in people, and it's not what you know, it's who you know. And so many times I've actually got it. I've got opportunities from people from my playing life, from people I met ten years ago because I remember you, remember you. We had a really good connection. I just loved how you respected me and talked with me. And just like, things come back around, and uh, I think

it's a you don't do it for that. You invest in people to be a good person and to discover their journeys. But be it does come back around, it's gonna find you again at some point. I've seen it in l a. I've seen it in friends. I've seen it in their lives. They've been on different projects and I see the same people on the different projects. I'm like, Wow, you guys all work together. I love each other. Adam sand is the prime example of a guy who works

with his friends again. You see, you know, anytime you see one of his movies. It's like the Old Big Crossbones where it's like the same people again and again, but it's perfect. Someone He's like, these people make me my best. Um, they've they've been good to me. I'm gonna be good in them. And I think when you help us. When the other thing is, you also learn a lot anytime you any experience you have, if you're if you're open, if you're earnest, if you invest in it,

you learn things that inevitably imprint on you. And I think hopefully continue to elevate your game because we're all trying to grow. Right. If you're stat that you're you're dead. So yeah, it's it's and it's a fun I mean entertainment is is it's a ridiculous a ridiculously fun job. And the opportunities that we get to do and and and and the other thing is I always try to appreciate it is to say, like I literally when I was in medicine, it's truly life or death. You see

what really true? Life or death situations are an entertainment. We act like it's life and death, but you know we're talking about Ninja's or I'm on the shorts and those things. And I always try to step back and say, particularly growing I grew up in Colorado, it was always sports in school. Entertainment was never on the radar. But

I loved I loved movies. I loved entertainment. And now I'm out here, and you know, I get to work at Universal Studios or you get to meet some of these people, and to always say I have an appreciation for it. And and to to also say I choose a career with a lot of risk and a lot of a lot of issues, but you get some of these opportunities and never take those for granted. And and

and just sit back. And the other thing I would love to do is to talk to my friends like I grew up with, and and to just remind yourself, man, like, remember where you came from. Remember be grateful. I guess is you know, have gratitude for the stuff you're getting to do, and not worry about what you're not getting or what you're missing, but then be grateful for you do have, which which is a challenge, particularly during the

pandemic and everything. We're all a little for it. Yeah, we'll get into that, because that's very much part of the listener questions, But, Um, you're inspiring me because there's there's been I never thought i'd want to get into TV. I never I wanted to play hockey. It didn't play hockey because it was on TV. I played hockey because I loved it. But there's been a there's been a couple of things that have come my way. Um, And I've thought about it, but kind of like, yeah, I

don't want to. I don't want to give up a day at my lake house for that. I don't want to give up a day of like flying or doing something fun for that. But you're inspiring me to see the fun in it, to see the joy in it, see the opportunity in it. Um. And it's something that's been kind of a couple of things have landed in my inbox that I've I've thought about but ultimately not moved towards. I don't know if I was ready for it or I don't know if it was the right

time for it. Um, But you're inspired maybe to give another look at it. It's what Yeah, Well I was gonna say, look, you you've got a great personality, you got a great look. And it's the thing I think when you go into it with the idea of there's no downside. Right where you go, people like, hey, you might look like a jackass or something. Well, look, I'm not afraid of embarrassing myself. And I also trust, I trust that I will do well enough to to be

where I can hold my head up high. But when you start to when you start to go into it and say, hey, man, I could really have fun and expand something. And the thing I love about what I've created in TV is largely I get to be myself, which would really is a blast. Like I go on and I'm a naturally enthusiastic guy. I love I love

meeting people. I love telling stories. Ninja. We got to tell these incredible stories that you know, I was an athlete growing up, or and and and just love seeing people push themselves past it and and when you get to when when you get to the secret I think to being good in Hollywood is very often figuring out how to be yourself and get out of the way

because we all kind of put these things on. And honestly, that's where, like the first ten years of my career we're doing is you know, you you try to be will Ferrell, or you're trying to be Alex Trebek rest in Peace or any of these people, and then all of a sudden you're like, no, man, I want to be Brooks, like I want to be mad Eyes, but I want to be this person inside who I am. Because the thing you see, particularly when it is person

when you're hosting, it's people want some authenticity. They want to know this is who you are. And I think once once you figure that out and you're able to deliver that, that's what people respond to. Okay, love it. I'll take that advice. Thank you, buddy. One last question then we're gonna get into our list. Your thoughts, um your favorite give me your absolute favorite thing about being

on TV and the opportunities that you have said. Look, I would love to say Celebrity Apprentice was amazing because we got to raise a million dollars for the Arthritis Foundation. I have rheumatoid arthritis UH, chronic autoimmune disease that changed my life, diagnosed in two thousand two. So to get a raise a million dollars and and just as importantly to share my story and raise awareness was awesome. If I said that was my favorite part, that would make

me a good person. My favorite part of was that I've become friends with Arnold Schwartzeninger. Like I my childhood bedroom, I'll be there for Thanksgiving. My parents still live in the house I grew up in. My bedroom hasn't changed since I graduated from high school. The Predator posters up there. I mean ever since ever six I've slept with Schwarzenegger in my bedroom. And now I'm friends with this guy.

We've got the travel globe doing charity events and and my buddy, my buddy was just it was just he. I was so excited my last birthday anyway, we went to Austria together and on my birthday, Arnold brought a cake at We're having stogies, and I sent a photo to my buddy and he goes. He said, if everything went away, if if you had to leave it, you had to go whatever you know, jig ditches, do whatever you got, you made it. This is like sixteen year old that would have been like life is complete. And

in that moment, I've got a photo. Let me see this. This photo Schwarzener hand me to his Christmas party was stallone. Yeah, like and in this photo I was just like, that's it's next to like the photos I got with my parents. It's like that photo that that's it. That's why I

came out here. And so like that moment was really one when when those two guys whose movies I can still quote to this day, when I got to meet them and like, you know, not be peers, but but but like work with him and hang out with him, it was that was amazing, And that's certainly made at this point, I'm playing with how some money in this career. I I once met Arnold but couldn't see me. You get it, you get it. My my one of my best buddies. That's his favorite line from that Get to

the Chopper obviously, but then he couldn't see me. Um yeah, So okay, buddy, I love it. It's so good, so good. Okay, let's get to some of these. Let's do it. I want your input on these, so our listeners, our listeners are pouring out to us. A lot of people are struggling, a lot of people are uncertain with the future. Um COVID obviously is taking a massive impact from people's professional and personal lives. So they've reached out to you and I Matt, and we're going to do our best to

try and help people. Let's do it. Um, here's the first one from our community. Where will I end up after college? Where do you think somebody in college right now, where are they going to end up? What's the world look like for somebody coming out of college? Why? I I think, Look, I have no idea. I have no idea what the world's gonna look like. I mean, we just heard news today of a vaccine that might be effect if it really is, that could really change the

face of COVID. But I think this pandemic has been an extreme example of the reality that we don't know the future really, it's it's so unpredictable. Um. And we've been very fortunate to largely you know, I think back in my lifetime, the events nine eleven, uh, this pandemic, I I think are just those events. I think Reagan being shot, like the Space Shuttle blowing up, those kind of landmark events. Um. But but this pandemic and nine eleven particularly being ones that I think shifted the world

moving forward. So I don't know what the world's going to be moving forward. But but the reality is, um, you if you're in college, you are still at a place where you are you are able to mold your future, and I think that that was one of the great things in college. Here's what I will say. When I was in college, I thought I knew what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I thought I was going to become a doctor. I thought I had it all planned out. What I've realized since then

is I had no idea. So I think there was always a lot of pressure though, when you were in college to feel like you had life figure it out. And I want to just tell people you don't. I said it before. Life is a marathon. Don't feel like

you need to have all the answers. What I think you would want to do is to try to to try to build up your knowledge base, find something you're passionate about, but also be okay saying, you know, whether you take a job, whether you travel, whether you whether you choose something safe, or whether you choose to take that big risk or go to law school, whatever it is, to say, this might not be where it goes and

that's okay. Things could change, and just to say what I'm going to do is to continue to search for that thing. Hopefully search for that passion that's something that really excites you, because again, I don't, I don't work. I don't. I mean, obviously it's entertainment, so it's not that hard. But I love what I do and I'm so grateful to have found that. So if you're in college, I would say, just try to be okay realizing that you may feel all your classmates everyone around you has

life figured out or has their plans out there. They don't. Most of them are just like me, where you thought you knew something or you kind of thought, hey, this is the right answer, but you're going to experience in the next you know, ten years out of college, I think is when you really start to grow up and find out who you are and just to be okay with that and to say that the world is changing, but it's really just that this has been a very

surface realization of life so always changing. So I think, just be okay saying you don't have to have it figured out, um, but just kind of being able to live with that discomfort and to say I'm really going to commit to bettering myself, to betting on myself, to saying yes opportunities and to finding something you're passionate about. I like all of that. I love I love all of that. I love that you kept the door open

for somebody to pivot. Um, because coming out of college that you might see your life one way and then there they might not be hiring with a degree that you have. Now maybe they just the world might be there the way, And so keeping the idea that it's okay that maybe you still want to do this, but also for the time being, I might have to pivot here, and actually that pivot, as it was in your life,

could be the greatest blessing of your life. Um. The other thing that I keep in mind, I've I've never been to college, so I don't know what it's light coming out of college. But I don't want people to assume that now that they have a college degree, that they're going to have a job that I think the world is intensely competitive and even if you come from a great school, you are going to have to earn that job. Like it was like when I was trying to make the NHL, I had to unseed somebody who

was already there to earn that job. It wasn't just like, oh, I've been drafted they signed me to professional contract. Oh, I'm gonna play pro. No, there are so many more people that don't make pro than do. Even once they are drafted and signed, they still never make it because they never unseed somebody. So UM would encourage those the people finishing up college to think of that too. World's

gonna be tough. It's even gonna be tougher. Now you're gonna have to fight, You're probably gonna have to claw. I would also another thing that comes to mind is reach out to maybe somebody that um, some contacts that

you have you know. Yeah, well, going back to networking for sure, and taking opportunities to say again, I think a lot of people make choices based on paper, like I want to do this career, but being okay, saying hey, I'm gonna take an internship where I'm gonna you know, shadow somebody or really get to learn a career, because again, you might think you know what you want to do and then you get into it and say this isn't

lighting my fire. Yeah, okay, great advice. Thanks. Next question, if you could, you're gonna be on CNN or Fox News or wherever you can answer this one. What does the future look like it's a very broad question, but let's go with it. Let's see where your mind goes. Well. I I think, look, I think our future is great. I think we've seen we've withstood worldwide pandemic and largely it seems that we are, you know, despite despite case

numbers going up, it seems fatalities are going down. I think as a nation, we've we've been through a tremendous amount of growth with civil unrest and kind of an awakening and a reckoning on some of the racial past. I think, I I I think our future really isn't our hands though it's it's still really up to us what what we will shape. I think we're seeing this

evolution to me with social media. Um with this, I think there has been a cheapening of kind of the national conversation when it happens online and people say things online that they wouldn't say face to face to people, and I think we we've lost some of that. But that's the reality of of of social media right now. I think our future is is it's it's it's a it's a bright future for not just the world, but

I think particularly for America. I think we're seeing you know, despite all the division in politics, it's like this is kind of how the nation has been back and forth. People say, we've never been so divided. We we had a civil war before, we've we've been divided, and I think we're What we're seeing here is is a real good challenge to democracy and and people feeling more. We had more people vote than ever before, which I think

is a good sign for people feeling involved. Um, I think hopefully the news of the vaccine is great because I think I think we're never going to go back to where we were before COVID. I think there's any time we now have a viral outbreak of flu coming in, there's going to be fears of COVID two point. Now, I think masks are going to be a new part of our existence, particularly particularly if you're sick. So I

think we're gonna see some changes. But again we we we never underestimate humans ability to adapt to a new situation and still thrive. Oh I love that. I love that. Finished. So I have no idea what the future is gonna be, but I'm still optimistic. So I'm the same way. So when I when I think of this question, the first thing that comes to mind is, and I speak from experience, is that sometimes there there needs to be a disruption, an unchosen disruption, in order for better things to come

into your life. UM. And it's hard, it's a hard way to receive this. There's been so much trauma. There's been so many deaths, so much hardship, loss of businesses, loss of relationships, loss of connection with one another, loss of family members, deaths. There's been so much loss in this. But I believe that from this I'm always I'm always an optimistic guy, and I'm always I always they see

things as an opportunity. And I believe from this, though none of us chose this, this will some way, we will find a way to make this the best thing that happened to us. UM, my hockey career, this is, this is where I draw from the experience. I got a phone call one day that said, thirty four years of hockey boom is done. Off a cliff right now. You are released. My hockey career is done. I never wanted, I never chose that. I never I would have probably

said no, I'll give anything to get it back. But that disruption in my life lead me to so many new opportunities, so many new friendships, so many new partnerships. I'm only doing this podcast, having this conversation with you because of that disruption, and it's and I've my my eyes have just widened to the entire world, whereas before they were stuck inside a hockey rink. And so I just hope people can draw something from that where I

know we're going through tough times. I know people are hurting, but tough times don't last. Tough tough people do, and so there is some sort of an opportunity. I think the future of work has forever changed. I think people are really assessing what true happiness is to them, not what professional happiness is, what true happiness is. I think there's so many good things that are going to come

from this. I do still think we're in this for a little while still hopefully, like you said that, the news of the possible vaccine just came out today, Hopefully that comes sooner than later. But I'm always always going to find an opportunity at something. I think that's I think that's a that's a great way of of phrasing it is is that idea of right, there's there's nothing

happens good or bad. But thinking makes it so where you really you know, in these times of of challenge, that to to to say I will, I will get through this. And and you're right, I think when you've had a previous experience, For me, I think leaving medicine. But but you know, being diagnosus with rheumatory arthritis and I had cancer as well. When you go through those those health scares and you realize, wow, I'm not invulnerable and life, life is precious, I think it it does

prepare you for these things. And and for you know, for people who this is that first kind of shock, you know, God, that's very fortunate. But but this is what life is, right is We're going to have these challenges and this is a particularly big one. But hopefully you know, people learn we can thrive through this and thrive coming out of it. And it's it's a challenge and it really I think we've all been shaken. Uh you know, has been right, the most historic year of

my lifetime, without a doubt. Yeah, Um, okay, next question. Um, And I'm I'm gonna preface this with I'm not going to ask you if you voted. I'm not going to ask you who you voted for, um, anything political in regards to you. Just this is the question, how will the presidency be different? How will this presidency be different? I I don't know. I I think one of the

things we've seen is communication has shifted. Where you realize that the president was always almost once removed, right, we would see them speak when they would give the State of the Union, or occasionally on UM if they would do a press conference, or or or be in the the White House. But I think we're seeing now there is a much more line of direct communication now with social media and almost an expectation of to to hear

from them more immediately and more frequently. So I think for the presidency, I we'll see, we'll see more communication UM and I I think that's it's it's I don't know. I I think it's I who could have predicted what's going on in the past, in the past year. So

I don't know. I don't know what the future holds, but I think we're I think we've seen people more involved with politics, and I am hoping that people will also get out of the tribalism of politics and get more into the the you know, when life is at its best. We don't you don't think of politics because everything is going well and obviously we haven't had that luxury of late. But I'm hoping that we, you know, we as a country can start to move out of

and go back to two. I think, I think just rediscovering, rediscovering our passion and our connection and and and you know unity is a country. Yeah, I um so. I did a post yesterday on my social media about um or two days ago, think about hope for the future. UM. I am a Canadian. I have my U S Green card, but I'm not a US citizen. I cannot vote. I do not have voting rights. I am not and I am not and do not identify with a Democratic party

or a Republican party. UM. I can only bear witness to what goes on in this nation that I've lived in now over half my life. I've lived in the US nineteen years. I've lived in Canada for eighteen years, so I've spent more time in the US. But I do not have voting rights. And I did a post about leadership, about the change in leadership, um, but merely about leadership and how my my hope for leadership. Any leader, whether it's of a nation, a company, a team, a family,

that their number one priority. My my belief is that a leader's number one priority is to unite people under a common goal. You have very different people. You have a group, your your people, or the tribe that you lead, whether it's a nation, whether it's company, a team, family,

whatever it may be. Community. You have very different people in a very diverse group of people, and your job as the leader is to unite all of those people under a common goal and a common goal of and I voiced on a common goal of unity and of love. And that's what I hoped for for this leadership. UM. That being said, I did not choose them. This is not my elective president. I hope to one day be able to vote. But that's just what I hope for from this president. UM. Also, I hope UM that we

get back to a total state of transparency. I think transparency would be wonderful, UM, just to receive that, to to know where we are and COVID testing, like when when are we looking at like like we could? I think humans can take bad news as well as they can take good news. We can take both as long as it's honest I've received so much bad news in my life, but when it's delivered honestly, I'm okay. I'm like, okay,

thank you for being honest. It's good to know. So whether it's like if they could tell us, like, hey, we're probably not going to have a vaccine until June, like that's that's just being transparent. That's what it looks like right now, best case scenarigent. Okay, Like that's tough news, but at least like we know. Um so I hope

for some transparency as well with the new leadership. It's funny I think as you were talking about sports and leadership, I was just having a conversation with my mind of lifelong friends. We were just talking about coaches and you know, having to me my high school coaches just in terms

of molding you as a person. And and but I always say the lessons of sport, of the lessons of life, how to lose, how to handle bad news, how to be how to have feedback, how to work with teammates, how to give yourself up for the greater good of the whole. And and I just we were just talking about how, you know, the old school Bill Belichick or uh, Nick Saban, these kind of these old school real dictator types.

It seems to be kind of going the way now of more people who are, you know, Pete Carroll or Dable Sweeney. You seem to be a little more I'm going to motivate you, I am going to try to unite you. And I think that's kind of what I think in politics, we're seeing some of that. I think politics is a very challenging field where unfortunately it does often become very us versus them. And I think the reality is when you walk around the streets, you see

it is we. It's we the people right when, and so often on social media, we we we get more focused on those those differences instead of the great uh commonalities that we have. Yeah, And I think one thing that I'm seeing right now, and I actually challenged my my community yesterday with this, I'm seeing a lot of

confirmation bias going on. So people that voted for Biden are only talking to people that voted for Biden, and Trump supporters are only like talking to Trump support There's no like, hey, I understand your president your choice didn't get elected, like how are you feeling, or like there's there's none of that going on. It's like it's like uh red and the Blue team. It's like we're completely separated. And I encourage people to have conversations with people who

don't think, look dressed, vote or act like them. You know what books I think it is going on, it's just not happening on social media. And unfortunately, so often if we're on social media, you only see the yelling, and you often see people I think where it is very much an echo chamber even and how you follow you may obviously, you know, kind of crop out opposing views. But when I was out, you know, when I when I'm out and I hear people from both sides talking,

and and I I think it does happen. It's it's I I really when when so often, particularly because of the pandemic, we're often living virtually or living on our phones, are living through social media, I think we really see the divide so amplified. And when you get out into public um by and large, when you're out, if you're out at the food court or wherever shopping, you know, you really see people getting along and people do avoid

the political discussions, probably particularly this strangers. But I know, like this weekend we were all you know, friends, and we were all talking. There were lots of different views going on, and we did add that your history. I

hope it's going on more. Um. I I think social media, you know, that's something I really think that it's a place where I've actually pulled back a lot from social media just in terms of the time that I'm on there, because I did find so often, um, even before the politics, I found there was there's just so often negativity is

very cheap on social media. It's very easy and there's no real costs because it's not face to face, and I just found sometimes it can be a very draining place that I don't always feel is really representative of how we are as people. I hope it's not. Um. So sometimes I think when when you when you put down the phone and go out and interact with with people, I think I find I'm a lot more optimistic. Yeah,

and what's interesting there. We're gonna move on to the next question shortly, but um, you can interact with somebody just at a market or wherever and have a great interaction with them, and then you could find out that they're actually they actually voted the different different way than you voted and you're like, oh, interesting. Yeah, but but because you met them as a human first and didn't identify them with the political party, you have a connection.

You're like, oh, that's actually okay that you voted opposite of what I voted. Yes, anyway, we're gonna leave that one. We go on for days on that one. Okay, next question, um, this one is this one is really interesting. This is a complete pivot. There's two part questions. Okay, why are guys worse during COVID and who will my next significant other be? Why are guys worse? Is this from a woman or from a guy? I'm assuming this is from a woman. What's going on? First? I don't appreciate these

generalizations here. Uh, just because for the first ten days of the pandemic, I sat in bed ordering take out, playing video games. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't noticed that guys are worse during the pandemic. I don't know on on what criteria. Maybe, Look, I think there is certainly I know for me, when I don't have to be on camera, I don't have to be dressed up. You know, I'm wearing my devor broncos Zubaz pants and my you know, I let things go a

little bit, and I definitely think they're there. I don't know. Maybe maybe I will say for me, I find that if I am left to my own devices, I do get I like to be lazy, I like to sit around. So maybe maybe this is my girlfriend actually writing and she's just really being subtle here and trying to say, why don't you clean your act up? I think I think there's there's I know. I know for me, one of the things I found about myself is I'm not

a great self starter. I'm very enthusiastic about things. But when I really I love having a challenge. I love having a deadline. I love getting into a goal. I love I loved having a coach. I love being a part of the team where it's like, here's our goal, let's go for it. When I'm left to my own devices, I'm just kind of wandering around, chasing butterflies and looking

at bubbles. So I don't know, I don't know if that's it where I've I've always been uh challenge based or task based, and even my career now, it's like when we're doing Ninja Warrior or whether I'm doing live rescue or doing my podcast, my game show podcast. It's like I can focus on that and then the other time is me nol Yeah it is. I can say I'm selfish. You're right, men are selfish? What can I say? Um? Yeah? What was the second part? So? Where will my next

who will my next significant other be? What do we what do we car that? Fortune tellers? You know it's going to be the best friend that you've never looked at that way, But maybe you will learn the pandemic about that. That's a little rom calm twist. So you're you're you're encouraging our community that if they like they can't see something like I have no hope of a romantic partner to maybe think of like the person that

they really get along with them, maybe they've overlooked. I will say very often, I think we have an ideal, right that we look for. And I think when you start to say, hey, what, why don't I look for who makes me happy? Instead of saying what I think I want? I think, Look, I've never been married, I'm closing in on fifty. I'm not the right person to

give relationship advice. Um, but I think there is something to saying, Hey, I want to look for someone kind of with shared values and someone who makes me happy. I love. That is wonderful. Um. Next question, do men it's kind of on the same things. Do men have a larger pool of women to date from now that

now than before? Is it easier for men to date now than before in a man's perspective, Um, so I'm dating someone, So I would say, I think with COVID is particularly hard, just because you don't have any random interactions. Right You're not in the workplace, you're not out at stores, you're not you know, your masks are on, You're not running into people. So it's either I'm on a dating site or it's someone I'm pursuing intentionally. So I think.

I think for anybody, the pool is probably slim, I think. And even then it's hard to say what are you comfortable with? Like do you want to go on a date? But you know the six ft apart as we walk outside with the de humor air purifier in between us. So I think for everyone right now, relationships are tough. Um. I think this is a particularly tough time to be dating.

And because you know it's it's hard to be casual right, anything you do anytime you go out now it has to be intentional in the mask and kind of being sensible about it. So just the idea of, hey, we'll go for a coffee at Starbucks where you know, we we figure it out. So I think, I think women it sounds like she may be frustrated with the dating prospects. I think my buddies are, you know, and some of them they're all on dating sites though, the ones who

are dating right now, and that's how they're meeting people. Um, I wonder if some of this is baked into that that when the world was open pre COVID, the world was open, there was somewhat of a There was some like what of a standard for guys to like take a woman out on a date, right, Like to go on a date, let me pick you up, Let's go to a restaurant, whatever it is, concert, let's go on

a date. Now that kind of standard is kind of not so much there, and so so men might have got really lazy and you could plan a picnic, or you could plan a hike or like some other kind of date. But they turn on your Netflix, I'll turn on mine and FaceTime it's yeah, So maybe men have just gotten lazy and they're like, I don't need to date. I don't need to take you on dates, but I want everything that comes from that too, And I don't know I have I have friends. That's the last question

we just asked. Is they're a bigger dating pool for women or for men than there are for women. I have a friend who says, I have actually two friends that say dating in l A and their girls dating in l A is awful. There's no man, there's no man. And they're like, there's so many girls but there's no man. They feel like there's so much competition, but they feel like there's no man. And I'm like, we live in a city where there's nineteen million people. My hometown is

six hundred people. My grad class had nine boys and seven girls. If you think dating in l A is hard, you have no idea what hard dating is. So I'm like, I don't get it. There's dating possible for me. There's dating possibilities all around, but they don't see it as such. But do women do women tend to see that like there's a lot of women and only a few men. Well,

I think if you're single. If you're single, of course you feel like there's not enough pool, right because otherwise you'd be you'd be with somebody, and you you see, I I think, you know, she probably has all her friends who are single too, and so they they're all they're not realizing guys are in the same boat. I think. I think there are plenty of people out there. It's hard to meet the right one, and I think often

we look for the wrong things. And you know, are you trying to meet somebody at the bar where you're like, is this really the place you want to meet someone you want to take home to your parents when you're both doing to well? Not now? But so I think there's you know, you you you what are you looking for? You know? Are you are you looking for a hook up?

Are you looking for someone who's hot to day? Or you're looking for someone who I really want to build a future with, because I think all three of those put you in a very different mindset of of you know, how you're approaching what you're looking for. Mhm, Okay, let's let's kind of stay along the science particular, how do or what do I get my significant other for Christmas? So Matt you're a man. Let's let's from a male's perspective.

What is something that you're you want to experience. I want to experience, especially right now where you know, things or whatever it's it's you know, a sweater or a golf clubs whatever. I just would and play Pebble Beach with with three of my college roommates and you know, we we we've been planning a massive birthday part we couldn't so it's just we four of us went and we did this, and the whole day I just kept saying, this is the greatest day. This is the greatest day.

I'm so happy to be with my friends. I just had we you know, we ended up having drinks outside at the end. I was just like, this was so happy. So I think, you know, particularly during this year when we've all been locked down, when we haven't been traveling, and you know, one of the things I was gonna say that that I think all of us have been missing is face to face interactions. Because this is great.

I can see you, but it's not the same as being in person, and the idea of if you could do a trade, just even in escape, even if it's just driving, you know, twenty minutes outside of town and and and getting a hotel or an airbnb or something, but an experience where you say, hey, we are going to kind of create, you know, a carve out a little bit of normalcy, or carve out of time to make a memory. Because I think we, you know, in this past year, we've seen material things are are not

what motivate us. You know, you're you're sitting in your big house, but if you don't have your friends and family,

everything feels a little empty. So I think trying to trying to get someone you know, some experience, or trying to get them some special some special day, even if it is like you were saying, just a picnic where you drive an hour out, you just make it where it's I just wanna, I really want to shift shift your setting being you know, where we're out of the house, where we've all spent way too much time, and just get get me out, give me someplace and and hopefully

you know, try to have a couple of people there, friends or family, whatever you feel safe with, and just connect with people, because I feel like that's what all of us are craving right now. Yes, I love that answer. I wasn't sure how I was going to answer that. Um, but I'm gonna piggyback yours. Um. One thing I've been focusing a lot on in my life is surprises. I'm

trying to do a lot of surprises for people. UM. And what I think would be a great I'm gonna go with you, like, as a man, what would I want to receive for Christmas? Um? And I want what is yours? What is the one thing you want? It would an experience? Is it? And one thing I think we're all missing of a lot of in our lives is laughter. So if you if here's here's like I'm gonna I'm gonna gift wrap with a gift for people

to give to your significant other. Uh. Book and Airbnb, I don't know, an hour or two out of town. Like you said, let's change our environment setting talk to my three best friends or the three couples that we love the most or something. Say hey, I got this Airbnb booked. It's a surprise for Brooks. It's gonna be

these three days. Everybody get a COVID test three days before and then isolate and then we're gonna show up here and we're gonna have three days together with all eight of us, and we're gonna laugh and play and just be together in a safe place and just laugh, laugh, laugh. The two words, the two words on my mind are just laughter and love. And that's I think we've been missing a lot of the laughter. And so at this time, like you said, a material thing, like, what's this gonna do? Whatever,

it's a material thing. But what's gonna feed my soul? Oh? Some laughter with my closest friends. So planning some sort of surprise like that where we go somewhere and my favorite people in the world are there. Oh, that's a that's a hell of a gift. Okay, well we we crushed that brother who we did? Oh yeah, that's good. There is Okay, we're gonna get some very good gifts courtesy of Brooks and Ice. Okay, here can go. Now here's a Oh man, this one's gonna hurt. We're gonna

flip into one eighty. We're in such a we're in such a good mood. Why do I got to do this to us? How do I stay smart about finances during COVID? Wow? Um, you know the reality is, I mean we all curbed our spending a Ton, but we also likely current curbed our our earnings. I I think it's it's it's, uh, you know, this is this really is another time where you reevaluate what's important to you and looking at you know, the the gym membership or those nights you know, the big nights out, or you know,

the getting the biggest car possible, whatever it is. I think it's kind of making those choices about all right, what are those things that really fuel you, really really bring you the happiness and putting your money there, um and and uh, I think you know this, this is

this is the black Swan event, right. I'm hopeful that the economy is going to come back, that jobs will come back, that people are gonna start to be able to feel more comfortable about their earning prospects, and you know, feel a little more comfortable than that they'll have some

wiggle room. But but I think it's it's, uh, you know, we we all are probably you know, I've been on Amazon and bought some things that I really didn't need because I was just sitting at home and going, all right, and you start to go, all right, where where do I want to if if if I've got you know, a hundred bucks, What do I want to do? You know what am I gonna do with that? Is it going to be I will really want to get some

nice food or maybe cook some meals. I I think it's you know, I don't I'm not the finance guru, but I think it's it's starting to say where do you get the most return for your money? Um and and and bring you that joy and and cutting out those things that before you know you didn't have to make those hard decisions, but saying you know, I know a lot of people are cutting out you know, TV and cable and got don't cut out A and E or N d C because I need to keep a job.

But I think starting to say, uh, you know, I can cooking more meals. And I think foods. Foods a big one where you know, as soon as you start cooking, boy you start and the other thing you eat so much better when you cook, Oh my god, a lot healthier. So I don't know. I think it's just try to

say I'm spending money where it gives me the maximum happiness. Yeah, And I would The first place I would encourage people to look at, too, is how many subscriptions do you have, Um, people subscribe to Netflix, who lose Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Disney Plus like whatever? And then how many musical on Spotify, fit Radio? Like? How many subscriptions? How many times? Is there just an automatic debit coming out of your bank account? Um?

That adds up. Then you can look at like you said, look at things like look at what is necessary for you? Do you have to have the upgraded cable package? Do you even need to have cable if you have all of those subscription packages? Um? One thing too is do you need to have to be a is if you're if you're a double like if you're a husband wife, for if you're a two person home, do you have to have two vehicles at this time? Could you sell one because hey, we're not both driving to work, we

work from home during this time. Um, if we need to pull back, could we sell a vehicle? We save on insurance, we save on gas, maintenance, the car payment, Like, there's a way to it s some money? Um. And then like we probably don't need to spend a lot of money on dress clothes or new clothes right now. You probably can just like flying with what you got there. I think there's ways. I think There really are ways, when we actually really look at it where our money

is going, that these aren't necessities. A lot of these are excess and abundance of your life. They really aren't necessities. Like you said, good food, Yeah, spend money on on good food so that you have good energy, so you're eating clean yourself. Yeah, that's where you know. The other thing I'm seeing is a lot of people are reevaluating

where they live. Yes, particularly cities like New York in l A, where you know, you're your monthly nut is is not small and people, as as we're seeing, work is so much more portable than I think anybody envisioned for a lot for a lot of careers. People are saying, do I need to live in you know, in the city, or could I be out in the suburbs, or could I be in a different state, or could I be closer to family and other places? And I think, you know,

that's been a big change. I've seen a lot of people considering are actually making is relocating to places where hey, my you know, I'm cutting it by you know, a third, I'm cutting a third and I'm really you know, frees up a lot of financial gives them a lot of financial mobility. Yeah, um, okay, you touched on this. Next question, you touched on this, Um, how do I find the motivation to cook during quarantine? So? How do I stay away from that? Postmates? How? This has been my biggest struggle.

I actually so I've never cooked. I you know, grilla steak every now and again. But I I took um, there's a master class if you've ever seen it online with Gordon Ramsey's cooking, and it was absolutely riveting. And I started cooking and was cooking breakfast every day and cooking most meals. And then I started getting back to work and I've I've fallen off of it. So I'm not the best one to ask, but I will say when I was doing it, it was a lot cheaper, I was eating a lot better. I felt better. Um,

I'm I live alone, my girlfriend comes over. Sometimes cooking for myself has been a real challenge. I think, Um, you know, finding the things I found that helped me, we're making sure. I tried to have the supplies that I needed for a few days, so I had a couple of meals planned out and you know, I kept

it basically simple. Um. And then sometimes what I would try to do is is do you know, cook a couple of pieces of meat and then just be able to throw them on the pan for a few minutes instead of given the you know, twenty minute love and treatment. So I I think trying to any any planning you can do, which I'm lous yet, but if you can plan a little bit, I think that really helps You're cooking. Yeah, Um, one thing that helps me if I cook for myself,

I just like throw something together and eat it. I just want something extremely clean and healthy, but it probably doesn't taste that good. I just cook for performance basically. But one thing that helps me is if I have a friend come over. Now it's like an experience versus just like just cooking for myself. Um. So I'm sure we all have like that, really close friends. Somebody we know is social distancing, somebody that we probably still see that if they have COVID, we have COVID because it's

just our lives are that intertwined. I have friends where I would see them every day or two. Um, and our big thing was having suffer together. That was our like we were all socially distancing and that was our pact. Like hey, we're gonna social distance anytime public it's masks everywhere, And because we still want to be able to see each other during this time, we don't want to have

to not be able to see each other. So that level of dedication to it from each other allowed us to see each other and have supper together almost every night. And then cooking was such a better experience. I was with people I love, We put love into the food. We tried new foods, we tried new recipes. We have probably more time on our hands. Nobody's compute commuting to and from work. Like you might have a little bit more time in hance parents maybe not. You probably have

kids to look after and teach. But that's a tough one. But look up. So I want to get better at cooking. I actually would love to take a cooking class. Okay, So here was my other tip that that would apply probably to you, but for most people maybe not. But the thing I found that really helped me with my

cooking was I was doing I did Instagram live. I was doing it every morning, looking breakfast and the accountability of going, hey, I'm gonna be there at eight thirty in the morning, but having an audience I was like, I'm gonna be the chef now because an audience. So that was something that that helped me cook and really you know, continue to find new recipes in new ways to make breakfast and so that was that was really fun and hopefully it has worked well. I hopefully it

worked on slow down. But I'll get get back into that because that was really I did Mornings with Matt and I just I just loved it. I love it. I loved cooking in the morning with with and just having like a couple of people chiming in. That's a great It's actually a great thing, right, make it a thing. Make it, make it a thing. I actually have an apron that has my name on it. I'm gonna do like mornings with Like pancakes is there? It is breakfast

because I supposed to say pancakes. I love making pancakes. I'm gonna do a breakfast with Brooks Instagram Live. I'm gonna bring you on it. Have you raped my Kodiak cakes? Uh? Right, and make just this stunning breakfast. But like, make it a thing. If I just do something, if I'm just like I should cook, it's not that fun. But if I'm like, I want to make this a thing, whether it's an Instagram live or you want to start your own little cooking sequence on Instagram or whatever it is,

make it a thing by yourself. I bought myself, dude, I bought myself a beautiful, like the most expensive spatula from work, just for my pancakes. It's okay, nobody gonna that, boy, Nobody can touch my spatula. My spatula cannot be used for anything else other than pancakes. What's this? What kind

is it? Williamson? What is it? I don't Oh, it's got this like he won't even he won't even tell us folks he's had his spatul the game, dude, you gotta you just you'll have to turn into Breakfast with Brooks and check out the spect Okay, let's go where I know where we've been on here, like fifty five minutes we got Let's find one more. Here's a great one, right, Um? How do I get in shape and lose weight during COVID? Oh? Wow?

So this is something again that I struggled with. Where when I was eating Postmates and playing video games, I gained about fifteen pounds and you know what I did. I I downloaded the Peloton app because they made it free for like three months. And what I loved about it again is I said, I'm not a great self starter,

and I struggled working out on my own. I would quit, but this app is fantastic because it had classes where they were talking to most most of them you could do them live, but they were prerecorded, but it still felt like your in a class, You're gonna complete it, and you could do some of the work. Guts were short as five minutes. Most of them I would do would be thirty minutes, but once I started, I would finish everyone. And then it also gamifies it where it

keeps track of them. So finding I think Peloton just the classes are spectacular, They're well done, the qualities great, the music is great, and I think it's like twelve bucks a month now, but I'm sure there are some that are even cheaper. But I think that is a fantastic thing. And you could literally most of the stuff could be body weight or maybe a couple of dumbbells

or resistance fans. I was doing it in my bedroom, So I think having an app or having something where I gave you that sense of you could select classes ahead of time to kind of hold yourself accountable. It's like, hey, I'm scheduling this eight am class, so I know I could not do it, But I think when you make that commitment to yourself, you're a lot more likely to keep it. Um and that that it would track and you could see, hey, you've worked out, you know, twenty

days this month. Good job. It was a good job. So I think finding an app or something that gives you some buy in, uh is really helpful. Yeah. Um. The first place I go with this is a lot of people their gym is closed. So our facility that we would go to is now closed, which means we

don't have a place to work out. So I've I've always encouraged people designate a spot in your home, whether that's in your basement and your grad whether it's like a mat that you roll out or you clear the coffee table or whatever, find a spot in your home where that is your designated little fitness area. Um. And so that because every day if it's just if home just looks the same and you don't have a spot

to go to, it's just easy to miss. You're like, I want to work out, and that then the motivation has gone. So set up your environment where you have a designated spot where like this is this six ft by six ft area. This is where I do my working out, at my water bottle, my towel, my my matt here, maybe a couple of dumbells. This is where I do it. UM. And then the other thing UM that really helps is putting some sort of challenge to

it with a friend. Right, if you bring in a friend, say hey, I've been I've been really struggling, Matt, I'm really struggling. I'm not working out. Have you been doing the same, Yeah, I've just been eating paintza. Like, okay, let's do something together, man, Like let's let's don't let's commit to thirty days and let's be workout buddies, accountability partners and UM. And then like you said, join an app. UM, I have a training app. UM, I have a fitness

training app called open Gym. And I made I just made a code when I saw this question before the show, I made a code. Hm T. So if people go to open hyphen Jim dot com and sign up for any program and when you sign up for any of the programs, UM if you enter the code h m T, you'll get fift off for the first three months. I just want to give it to people I'm just like and and we have a body weight program. My mom does the body weight program every day. It's a fantastic program,

so you need no equipment. It's twenty minutes or less. We have a program that has weights. Then we have like the professional level program which I had, which I do. And then we also have an app program for people that just want to like work up app. So go to open hyphen gim dot com, sign up for any program entered h m T. When you're signing up, you get off for three months. Um, but start moving and bring a friend in. Bring a friend in on this with you, keep you accountable. I think the the the

the added benefits of exercise. Aside from the fact that you'll you'll be feeling better, it also will give you that structure of you know, in so many times our days are much more fluid. But to say, hey, every day at eight am or nine am or whatever, at five pm, I'm getting that work at it and giving your days the structure. But it's also I think when when days are fluid and flow into each other to have said, ah, I did I there's a check check that I worked out and and you just see it

with the endorphins. Working out is the surest way to to get your mental health right. Yeah, I agree. I I I'm my most creative, I'm my most grateful. I solved my problems. I like my energy gets blown out. Otherwise I'm just like vibrating. I don't know what to do with myself. Um, it's there's so many ways that that I sleep better. So many people are struggling with sleep right now. But it's not it's sleep isn't the issue. It's the fact that we haven't moved during the day,

so we're not tired enough really to sleep. So like, there's so many Also, we make better nutritional choices when we're working out. We're less likely to eat junk food. Um, there's so many added benefits, fringe benefits even that come from working out. So I'm a huge advocate for people to find a way to move. Doesn't need to be inside. Also, you don't need a gym. Today I went for a four mile run and then it did a bunch of lunches on a picnic bench or like a just like

stic plan to come back. Just yeah, like just I love I love moving outside. Like it's just fitness. There's many different ways to do fitness, not just in the gym that you were going to get creative, get moving, get healthy. It'll show up in many, many areas of your life. So um, buddy, one last one, last one for you, I want you to just give to our community your last thoughts and just some inspiration and motivation for people that are really struggling, really going through a

tough time right now. What are some positive words that you can share with them. Yeah, you're not alone. We're all struggling. We are all having tough times during this and you know, I'm certainly one when I come on, I prefer to emphasize the positive. But this has been a challenge for all of us. Meet me too. And there's certainly been moments where you know, you you you feel the despair and you feel kind of the weight

of this pandemic and being locked down. But I think, you know, I think we're seeing there's light at the end of the tunnel. And I think it's also been you know, you've got to find the silver lining in this, and I think it is to me, the greatest gift of this has been a forced slowing down where I felt society but I know my life was going so fast I wasn't I wasn't stopping to kind of look up and to say, you know, what is all this for?

Where are we going? And with it? And to to to start to say what is really important you know now and and moving forward? And I think we've all kind of had a chance to reflect on what we do for a living, where we live, who we're with, what makes this happy, and to look at it is all right, now, what are you gonna do about it? Because you you you know, we didn't ask for it, but we've been given this how to mirror held up

to how we were living our lives. And I know, I I think I hope we all take this time and come back to as we re enter the world to say, all right, I'm gonna do this a little more intentionally. And I think we've got an opportunity here to make those choices and to really start crafting that life you want. I mean, this is this is kind of a reset button for everybody where you know things are going to be changing, and it's it's like how are you going to respond? And this is where you're

gonna choose how this next phase your life goes. So you know, every it's an opportunity. Let's look at this as an opportunity. And here is this global opportunity. We have to kind of come out of this hopefully stronger, happier, more motivated, more connected, and and to figure out how we do that. Mat That was wonderful. That was wonderful. Thank you for sharing. Um. When I look at that question, the first thing that comes to my mind is because we talk about this last week with Hanna Um speak

and listen. Um. We're not meant to go through this world alone. We're not. That's that's the like. We are not meant to be alone or to go through this world alone. And so many of us that are struggling are choosing to struggle alone because we're not willing to speak about it. Um, so speak, call, call somebody and open up. That's why I wanted to do this show. That's why part of my mission with How Men Think is I want to be a man that opens up and shares because I'm not good at that, and this,

this show holds me accountable to do that. So, whether you're a man, whether you're a woman, where you're young or old, whatever, you're allowed to struggle. You're human. Congratulations, you are human. You are going to struggle, we all do. So have the courage to open up and to speak and to share that with people. You are not meant to go through this world alone. And then also listen when somebody does. Don't say oh yeah, I'm struggling to that's all like my life's m as to just listen.

Just be there for somebody that's opening up to you. You'll have your time to speak another time too. But um, connect with people. Connect, connect, connect, find ways to open up, find ways to share your heart, find ways to share things you're struggling with, find where ways to share things that are exciting to you, find ways to laugh and still make memories. Just don't stop life is what I would advise people, or hope to give to people. Uh, well, said Bud, So my dude, Um, where can people find

more of you? Because you're such an inspiration. I love your message, man, I'd love to have you back on the show. Maybe we get maybe we get you and and our boy bar back. I've seen this, Um, But where can people find already hang out social media, social media. I am on their way too much. At Matt Eisman m A T T I S E M A N. We just wrapped season twelve and injin Wayer we're in

talks for thirteen. Figure that out. And every Friday night I'm on A and E Live with Live Rescue, where we're following firefighters, paramedics and mt s. And every Tuesday, Factorious the game show podcast that's dropping, so you can check it out. Um, and I'm around. I'm always around and and always happy to hear from people and get feedback on these things. I love hearing when people say, hey, man, I heard you on that podcast and just wanted to

reach out. It's really cool because so often you do these things and you, you know, I feel like I've had some having a conversation with you, and then you realize, hopefully a whole bunch of people are listening to this and they take something from it and they share that with us. Tell me about Factorious. So it's a game show podcast. It was just it's it's a ton of fun.

It's it's actually we give you the way it works, and we give you a clue and that clue is the letter or letters the initials of the answer, and then we give you facts about it, and then teams you have to people buzz in when they think they know. If you get it right, you get the points. If you get it wrong, you're out for the question. But what's cool is they really give me a lot, a lot to do where they're like, make it yours, have fun.

And so I'm you know, I'm a jackass. I'm all up in it, and uh, we're actually gonna be and I think we're gonna be shooting the pilot for it for TV. So yeah, and it's the dream I wanted. I wanted that ring. I'm like, who can I go up again? So you're competitive? I like it. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna also because like I consider myself something you crushed Gavin to grow. We'll get we'll get here in there with you. You'll just put them in the matt Oh, GAF won't even have a clue. I

will sniff that thing out in one clue. It'll take Gavin nine, Like, what are we talking about? I'm just gonna go write another song about this. Yes, we should do a how man think fact some of the other dudes. Um dope, awesome brother Matt. I appreciate you so much. It's been a ray of sunshine and a breath of hope for our community. Checkout Match, check out American Ninja Warrior. Have you done the obstacle course? You must broken foot, broken ankle. I'm banned from looking at an obstacle. I

shouldn't like I've run into it. I thread as my bones are like Rice Christmas. I shouldn't have tried it, but uh, I couldn't help it, and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna stick to the host thing. Okay, it's all it's all upper body strength. Hey, those guys, I'm like, I have like six four to now, so I'm like, I'm really the host stand man. It can hold me. Yeah. It doesn't that that the obstacle course doesn't set up for you, not at all. It's like it's it's finally

it's biased against big guys. It's really I'm not going to stand for this anymore. Yeah, yeah, right, five muscle. It's brutal, but you're the man. Um wishing you and your family everybody the best happiness and health, and I'd love to get you in our far back on here. Anytime,

we'll do it again. Everybody listening, we wish you the same happiness, health, stay active, stay safe, stay healthy until next week, Take care of one another, love one another, and we'll see you back here for another episode of How Men Think