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But you called whatever you want, Joe, Dr Joe. What did Tisha call you? What did call you? She called me Joe. You know, we're there. We got there. It was fine. So how many of your patients now are like, uh, Houstasia.

You know people ask you that, But if you really think when I'm an anthologist, do you think about the people who need surgery that generally, like, you know, for the most part, in the fifties, sixties, seventies, sometimes eighties, like barely anybody's asking me that so very rarely, which I kind of like, I don't want to be known as um. They didn't know I played trip Dodgeball National Television. That would be okay to me. Yeah, you don't know this yet because the world is so weird right now

that you're not going to like concerts or events. But soon enough you will be are you that guy from the Bachelorette? Or you'll get did we go to high school together? I've gotten that a couple of times. You know, I live in New York City. You know there's still after dining at times, and sometimes I'll be riding, um my bike and people will stop me. I'm super impressed by because I'm wearing a mask and it's really cold now I'm wearing a hat, so I've gotta do they

have ego eyes, they will spot you. I guess it's the weirdest thing because it is weird. I always tell them it's weirder for me. Like when if I'm going for a run outside, I'm like someone stopped. I'm like, this is so weird for me, Like what do you want to know? It's like it's just normal, you know, It's like it's such a buddy. Let's catch everybody up. So Dr Joe Park started on Claire's season, right, you were one of the men that was originally there for Claire.

So tell everybody why, Like you're a hot doctor, which doctors now we're always hot, but now doctors are like way hot. So why did you want to go on the Bachelorette? Like it is a little bit like why is this guy need to go? That's fair? Um, yeah, so you know, so it was. I got asked in the toward the end of spring and the pandemic in New York City, you know, it hit here first. Obviously it was kind of slowing down and at that time, I was, you know, going to work, you know, and

it was like a war zone. Everyone was just dinning the pte and keeping their distance and it was just a very scary time. And you know, unfortunately it's a lot of people. I'm not doing well, and I would come home, you know, to my shoe box on an apartment, you know, I live in New York City and now would be the routine, and I wouldn't see friends, obviously, I wouldn't see my family. And so when I got this this message, Um, I you know, I've never seen the show, and I just said that you like what

I have to do. I was open minded about it, and they said, you have to sit where you're sitting and do a couple of zoom interviews and and I asked to do enough to wear pants and like, no,

don't wear pants, It's fine. And uh, I did like four or five ho interviews and one thing left another and I was out in uh in the desert, in the palm desert with a bunch of strangers and again at that in quarantine living like That's what people listening may not realize, is you know, from we have a lot of friends that are either on the show or work on the show, and because of the way they did it, they were extremely safe with a lot of protocols and put everybody into a bubble and so you

guys basically got to sort of live a normal life. It was such like such a dark contrast. I can't tell you how it was going from the hospital, where I was wearing like not just through masks, but I was wearing the face shield and the gloves all the time, and the gown, and to just being in a place

where I could like like hug somebody. Um. And I know it's gotten a little bit normal now, but like at the time, it was like really really really the heightened again of such a scary thing, especially in New York. In New York was insane during that time. So that leads me to my question is how did you even get the time off? Like you went to you know, your boss and you're like, hey, I know it's the middle of a pandemic, but I just got offered to go on The Bachelor, Like how did that come there?

So it was a few It was like it was a couple of months before they said, hey, the Game of the green Light. You know, it was a bunch of zoom interviews. And at the height of the pandemic, which is early April UM, the cases were about six thousand a day, and that was when testing wasn't really available, so it was actually much much worse than that UM. But by the time I left, which was you know, early early summer UM, the case has actually gone down.

I'm not sure if I want the day, but they left it the case were down at about three hundreds. So it was just it was actually a perfect time where there weren't an elected surgeries going on because people obviously were very afraid to be in a hospital, and they were still taking care of a lot of COVID patients. But it wasn't that that peak had gone way way way down. And I told my my boss that I needed between four and six weeks off, which is all

my week. And he asked. He's a very old and very nice, old Indian man, and he was like, why do you need this? And I was like, you know, there's a show come back threat. He's like, what is this show? And I tried to sound like, so there's thirty guys and there's one girl, and you do a lot of weird challenges, um, you know, like you know, like dodgeball, you rustle each other and all that will help this girl find find us. And after eight weeks,

the whole prison. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous saying it now. But to him, we never heard of He was like it was like, he's like what I told him, It's gonna be on television and it's a crazy opportunity. And eventually like yeah, sure, like you know, it's actually perfect time, so go for it. I hope he watched did that guy watch? Definitely not? That's okay. I hope he doesn't. Well, there's so much just there's so much just sort of breakdown. So first before to get into kind of what we're

doing and how you're taking over the show today. Can you just give us a little bit. I'm like, where are you from, Where do you go to college, where do you get Where did you go to medical school? And then why did you choose anatsiology, which for people listening, that is a quite challenging area of medicine. Yeah, it is. Um. So I'm from New York. I grew up born and

raised in in Long Island. UM in New York. I went to high college at Georgetown University in d C. And Um, I just insulting there um for two years or not there but DC for two years, and then I thought medicine might be my route. Um, I didn't really love consulting, and I did some clinical research at Sloane Kettering, which is a cancer center in New York. And from there I really loved working with patients mentally,

super simulating, super like you're always learning in medicine. And then pot of med school, went to med school in Stony Brook out in Long Island. Also from there, UM incide to pursue as physiology, which, as you said, it's a very very challenging feel I mean literally, you are like keeping this person alive while they're going through their

their surgeries. So there's definitely and you don't get a lot of the glory because you're not the heart surgeon that came in or the doctor grouped a brain surgeon that Kate comes in for those that are listening Dr sanjayes on Ci and and he still goes and performs brain surgery. But then is so important. But you're like the man behind the scenes that no one ever sees. Yeah,

there's um. I like to consider. I like to think of enthusiologists as the basis of a group and a friend's uncle random but he told me once, Uh, it's meant to be felt but not heard. Um. But obviously you need that person there and it really creates that that sets the tone for the band, the music that's playing. And so I feel that way about anesthesia and I'm

happy to do that. And it is really really interesting to deal with physiology and all these medications were pushing in to see like all these monitors and again just to control from the physiology. I think, is such a do you because of your expertise as an antistusiologists, does that give you um insight into the vaccine in a different way than maybe even you know, just a general physician would, where you're able to sort of explain it's

safety and efficacy and why it's important. Um. Does the antistusiology back front that you have give you that knowledge more so than other doctors? More so than other some other doctors, Yes, I mean there are immunologists, UM allergists who probably have a better understanding. But that said, UM dealing with a lot of drugs and formal kinetics, form dynamics and from a college in general, UM, it is

important for us to know how the body processes medications. UM, different things that introduced for a body so, and also the reaction that happened thereafter, clampatary reactions that can happen afterwards, that can happen during surgery or two medications that we give. SO in that respect, yeah, I mean, we definitely have a better understanding of human physiology and how medications, especially

strange ones. So like So's people are getting the first dose of the vaccine, and and the common side effect is like arm pain. So is the arm pain because it's where a shot went in? Or is the arm pain because it's starting to like affect the body in that area, Like why the arm pain? Sure, that's a

good question. So most people when they get this vaccine, similar to the flu shot, it's an intramuscular injection, and every intramuscular injection is gonna have arm pain just because you're introducing um, a fluid, a substance into the muscle. So there's gonna be a flampwary reaction and it's gonna feel like someone punched you really harder the next day. And that's not really the systemic and the reaction that you're getting in from the va vacccene, which also happened,

which can happen, which puts a lot of people. Um, that's just a local reaction and that's completely normal and uh, completely yeah, and it goes away very quickly. And then after the second dose, people are having some symptoms like a sighte fever or chills or more flu like symptoms. Can you explain why that is and let people know like that's not COVID, You don't have COVID. You know, I'll let you explain, But it's your immune system. So can you explain why that happens and why people don't

need to panic? Absolutely? So, Um, first of all, Yeah, so even after the first dose, it's possible that the day after, or or two days after, up to two days after, you can have some reaction. And these reactions include um, generalized fatigue, generalized muscle pain. Some people will have fever, some people will have some chills, um, some people have some GI symptoms, it's some knowledges and diarrhea.

All these are very normal and generally last between one and two days, and by the third day you're pretty much action. Now, why that happens is because your body is ramping up its immune system. Your body is practicing for and creating the antibodies that will be necessary to fight off the coronavirus. If you ever actually encount of the real thing, um, and so it means it's working, you know. It means that our body is revving it

up for a real infection in the future. And again to your point, in no way can you get coronavirus from the vaccine. It is merely a very small component of the vaccine that creates that's kind of like a trigger for for our immune system to respond. But in no way can you get coronavirus. And I I want to be very clear with that now, how many years into medical school was it before you were able to say diarrhea without laughing? Machel in diarrhea, all of it. It's

still very funny to me. You delivered that like it was like no problem. Yeah, you know, I think I enjoyed the topic of diarrhea and it's grown to be comfortable. But I know that you can really shut a room down if you say diarrhea. Here's a medical school is such a journey, perhaps more than the best and the faces to say, you don't want to know where this finger has been. All right, it's it's stories, but I'm

telling you it's it's a right, it's a trick. Did you ever have to utter the word diarrhea when you filmed The Bachelorette? Um? I don't recall a time I had to um, but I was ready to bust it out if I had to question. How many medical questions were those dudes asking you like was it constant or yeah? You know a lot of them asking about like showing me rashes and I'm like, WHOA, I do not want

to see that. I'm joking. I'm joking. Everyone was Actually, I know, we know you're you're all pretty safe in there because you're you're COVID tested and tested testing exactly. I was gonna say testing anyways. So, so Amy, should we go into kind of the premise of the episode and what we have planned. We've been sort of pulling our audience and as much as people want to have relationships, love date sets, all the normal things that we always talk about on the show, they also have a lot

of medical questions right now. People want to know it all. So you're the perfect person to talk about love, relationships and doctor stuff. So we will let some people into our podcast with their questions. But my last question before we start that is who were your three besties that you made during your claritatious season of The Bachelorette. You have to pick three, and we know because saw the instagram that you went over to Bennett's house for dinner. So is he one of your best ties? I know

he's gonna be her. He's gonna be her. If you don't say him, think I'm gonna say um so the time on the show and after the show. Um, Brendan, I've got really close to Brendon. He is turn like poppy. Actually, I think it's the correct term. Turn like poppy. Um. But but yeah, he is such a kind, thoughtful um and actually super funny. He's got this this really subtle humor UM that I love and that a lot of people love UM. And that's just a good human being overall.

And that was evident on the show, UM because such a such a tense pressure field situation, and he kept a real throughout, which also I appreciated. You know a lot of people you know, who know there's a lot of reason why people will want and beyond the Bachelor, why be on TV? But he kept it one d the whole time, and I respected him, like we would have great chats, we would do this because always was Mike's to do this thing and we tap my mics

like is this are you scared right now? Like ok And I was just like, you know, it's not okay, I'm real. This guy's like okay, good me too. I would have picked him like he was my number one, like I to this day and like ta you missed the boat on that one. You know he was my he was and is my number one. But he lit he limited himself so she didn't even have the chance. And and I respect him for why he did it and he kept a real number. Two is a spice surprise.

But Kenny um, Kenny, okay, Kenny looks how he looks, and he has the job that he has. But one of the most also subtly funny is um most honest, genuine um and yeah, just like real people on the show. And you could tell that from the show. He's like, you know, at a certain points like what the hell is going on here? And that's just how it was all the time. And I really I love the reverence. What boy bands he manages, but we can figure that

out very quickly. I would say he has a bunch of cover bands that he manages at A has a bunch of cover bands, like one's a motown band. One was like a like a boy band cover band. So um, he does it always a model, you know, manager events space manager is a man of many times cover band. It's actually sort of a legit idea. He was getting fights with the other who was he brawling with? He was having the I think everyone didn't like Yeah, no,

I don't think anyone like Noah, but especially Bennett. Well you know what the mustache, the mustache. He was a mustache man, formerly must he had a pretty must stache phase in a post mustache pase, so he eras on the bechelor gave us your number three, And I'm nervous for Bennett because I know it's not Bennett. Number three is Bennett? Actually, I will say Bennett and I have gotten much closer. I mean, he lives in New York.

Were the about the same age or one of your part, And he's super intelligent, and he's really thoughtful, and he's just got interesting perspectives. And when he's your friend, he's your friend, like a good friend. He's with you, you know, the car wreck you can't look away from. Like I find myself like on his Instagram watching the whole thing, but going why am I watching this? Like like this guy so cheesy, but yet like tell me more, you know,

like he's that guy. Bennett is the classic case of you either die a hero or you live yourself, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And he just, for some reason skewed that way towards the end um because I don't remember the beginning that Bennett was like, yo, it was all up for Bennett, and for me, it's still all up for Bennett. You just a little bit of that Harvard guy, and he kind of like became that so fast. He's sort of handsome.

He's sort of handsome in a like are you handsome? Or am I going to vomit in my mouth kind of a way. But I mean Superman the Clark. Can't you like you're not into the big jaw and big muscle, and he's handsome. He's like, by the book handsome, but he has sort of like this underlying cheese where you're like, is that gonna herritate me dinner? You know, You're like, are you gonna like I don't know. It's like a Disney character where they're like always looking in the mirror

or something. I can't remember which one that is. But anyway, this is your show. Only one more, last one honorary also okay, fourth best and that's it. Sorry, no, no, we like it. We like it. We hope you're all in paradise to get so. We do have a bunch of people that are excited to talk to you. So fast. Yeah, let's go ahead and take a break and when we come back, we'll get to some of our questions. Hey guys, it's Dr Joe, I've taken over for Gavinet Brooks on

the Holm and Think podcast. Um, they'll be back. I'm sorry, don't worry, but for right now, you're stuck with me. So let's bring on the questions. Okay. So first up we have Crystal. Hello. Hi, Okay, So first question, UM, we would love to know I know you recently got vaccinated and UM, a lot of us are a little nervous about the vaccines. So could you kind of tell us your experience about getting it and what we might

need to know about it? Um? Absolutely, Um. Crystal love your style also, so UM, I just want to say that in the just out front. Um, so sure. So the vaccine, you know, initially, like a lot of people, UM, when it first came out, I was a bit curious about it. I was. I was a bit apprehensive about it. UM. I wasn't sure about it either, because it did come out pretty quickly, and I think that's the kind of

concern everyone had. But the more I read about it, and the more I learned about how the vaccine actually works, um, how the study was conducted, and read about how safe it was, I actually completely changed. I got really excited about it. And when the time came for me to actually get the vaccine, I was super happy, uh and hopeful,

um that this tiny, really innocuous injection. It's really you know, take about all half a second at this tiny injection would potentially and likely save millions of lives and get us back two you know, eating in restaurants with friends, to traveling um and just getting back to life um as we knew it. Um. And again just go procedurally to go through how how it works, because I know a lot of people aren't in the phase where they

can get the vaccine yet, but they will be very soon. Um. You sign up, you show up at the appointed time with your idea, and you get the vaccine, which literally takes literally a half second, a little wipe a alcoal and a little a very small needle, and you know, and get the injection. And you stick around for fifteen or twenty minutes after just a monitor to make sure

that there's no immediate reaction afterwards. And there have been some, but they are exceptionally rare thus far um, And so you stay him on heard and then from there um likely the day after, as we talked about earlier, you'll have a little muster streness in the shoulder that you've got the injection, and it's possible you'll have some fatigue. It's possible you'll have some generalized body pain. UM. It's possible that you could have a little bit of fever,

a little bit of chills. UH, it's possibly could have some GI symptoms, maybe a little diarrhea and UM. But those symptoms generally will go away in two days. By the third day you'll be back to normal, if not sooner than that. With those symptoms, you know, if you do have the fever, you have the chills, and even if that arm pain is bothering you, it's completely okay to take tonal, it's completely okay to take add bill UM.

And again that reaction that you're having UM. I look at it like when you're working out or practicing something like an instrument, no pain, no gain, And when you get that injection and you get that and you get that that reaction where you can you don't feel great next day, that's your body just like work it out and make it pumping out those antibodies so that you

are stronger UM afterwards. And you know, trust me from the first hand account that day or our day and a half of this comfort you have is much better than actually having COVID. Okay, So, um, even if again people are not so thrilled about how they might feel the day or two after again, it's it's nothing compared to the risk of potentially getting the disease and potentially spreading it to your loved ones, maybe even higher risk.

So so that brings me to our next person, because um, it has a really good course for those playing the at home drinking game. We just had another diarrhea, so um, okay, I'm gonna bring in Danny because Danny has something very much related to that same same topic. So Danny, if you can come in. Hi. So, Danny, Hi, I was just wondering, once you are all vaccinated, would we still need to be wearing masks and social distance? Um, just what are your thoughts on that. That's a really really

good question, and I'm glad you you asked that. Um. So the answer is yes, and the reasons are one, the vaccines we have the maderna and the fires of vaccines are about effective as far as we know. That means one in twenty people will still be able to potentially get moderate or severe COVID you might develop that disease. And so because we don't know obviously who that one and twenty is gonna be, you still should wear that mask because again you don't want to potentially contract it

and you don't. And again the second reason is because we're not sure that even if you are vaccinated and you are UM you do have the antibodies, if you can't spread it. Because it's still possible if you have the antibodies that while you're finding the infection, you might still be able to spread to other people. That's something I do. You know how long you think or medical community thinks it will be before we start to realize if that is in fact true that you can still

spread it. I did a deep dive on the Google the other night to try to figure that out, and I saw that they've been testing it in rats and some sort of other primate and they still don't have definitive answers. So what are you hearing on that? How long will that take? UM? So that's also good question that definitely deserves more investigation, And unfortunately that question will only be answered with time, and that's gonna be unfortunately, more people to get vaccinated, and the time frame with

the people who aren't evactually have to be much longer. Um, so it's hard to say, to be honest when and join me on that deep dive on the Google, there's a lot of episode like I did, Yeah, I did, and I because I was searching like how long does the actual vaccine like how you know how long is it effective for in your body? Is a yearly? Is it like a yearly flu shot or anything like that?

And it's the same thing. It's one of those things that time will tell you, don't you can't really put an answer on it right now from what I googled. That's another good point. So right now, there are a couple of things that are percolating in the news also percolating with the disease. There these variants that are coming um kind of light. There's a there's a the UK variant, which is the most prominent right now. Um. There's a variant which just means a mutated form of the virus,

a variant from South Africa. There's a there's a rescila varian I believe, And so a lot of these little variants that may also affect even that number that was quoted in the studies, that's a little lower than that. And again, you know, as far as what the nail was saying, um, if you may need it, you know, a booster kind of like a flu shot every year that is also to be determined. Like remember a year chasing you're chasing your tail. Because imagine so some people

started getting the vaccine. Let's say whatever it was December. It takes us eight months a year to get everybody vaccinated, and then you're just starting over again. It's like, although I will say, I'm not a doctor, you can answer this, but as we get it down in the communities, it'll get easier. I assume I'm not a scientist. But no, but that I think honestly is true. Right now we have the like the production is the issue, and the

distribution too, and that's just growing paint. That's like when this campaign to vaccinate every American like and also not it's not like people Amazon, It's nothing like Amazon. This is a medical treatment. Still you still need a monitor people, you still need to know about the medical history, um and any reactions they've had to Like, it's a medical thing that we're doing, and it's not like dropping up a pack. So there's gonna be some growing pains and

that's just normal. And we have to vaccinate the rest of the world, and it is our responsibility to help do that. Um, it's coming upon all of us because this is one of those things where if you don't get vaccinated, you could harm your mom, your dad, your grandma, your grandpa, you know, your teacher, you know fellow student who might be me. No compromise, Like, this is a responsibility that we all have. And this may be a this might be a dumb question, but it's just actually

one that I have and I think about often. Where do these variants come from? Like how do they just like pop out of nowhere? You know, Like how is there the South African variant? And then also you know one in the UK, Like where do they come from? Like I don't understand how that works. Sure, that's some that's a good question. Um that you do a little deeper into virology, but not that much. Cheaper viruses replicate

very very rapidly and in very high numbers. And UM, a lot of times with these vocations, there's gonna be mistakes that are made. And these mistakes are our mutations are varyings. The vast vast majority. I can't give a number, but a vast majority of variants are are go unnoticed because they do nothing to affect the effect the virus itself. So there's been lots and lots and lots of variants thus far, the ones that we know of now in the UK um in South Africa, these variants made changes

that were significant. They made the spike protein a little different. And thus the ones, unfortunately that survived, the ones that become prominent, like the ones in the UK, are the ones that tap the immune systems. Unfortunately, the more viry forms of these mutations are the ones that survived. Because so I have I have a terrifying and on that. I have a terrifying question on that, and then Danielle and Crystal, we want to know if you guys have

any follow up questions too. But I had this like dark thought today. So as they say the virus is getting more virulent, virulent, virulent, as thank you. Okay, So I finally have calmed myself down a little bit, not completely on my like door handle and my cell phone and my like all that that like I'm not gonna get it as likely from surface. So and we're kind of like, if it's a respiratory it's passed from person person. If it gets more virulent, am I gonna get it

off my grocery car? Like could that change it? And I know that's like might be a tough question. We don't mean maybe don't know, but what are you what do you think on that? Like? Now do I need to be like stressed out about my wife's again? Sorry diarrhea diarrhea, gosh, darning diarrhea. Um. So, that is a good question, and it to to put it to make an answer short. The answer is, you need less virus

to infect when it becomes with these variants. And when you say that it's coming more vari it's the same thing. It's a variant of it that are more virulent. That again, they just stick to our cells a little bit stronger, um to our receptors that introduce the cells into our body a little stronger. And because of that, less is needed to infect us, which which is what it means

to be more virulent. And because of that, um, we still need to be fastidious with our social distancing, with wearing masks and our hand hygiene for those reasons, because less is needed with these variances to effect well diarrhea. That's great diarrhea. We have some non actually related question before we do that, Danielle Crystal, we can jump in there. Do you guys have any follow up questions based on

what Dr Joe I'm just gonna call you. Dr Joe just just explained there not a question, but just I love the kind of metaphors you gave and I think, unfortunately we may have to done this down just because it is so, you know, based in medicine. Not everyone understands that. So I would love to hear more of those metaphors if you have any, just on your Instagram

in the future. I've got a couple of videos that made about the vaccine that has a couple of easy metaphors with like I used Bob the building in there. So that's just to give you an idea of how how simple UM it is and then UM with a variant. They also made a quick video also because I do think a lot of people are curious and UM I appreciate. I appreciate that. So thanks, Danielle Crystal, thanks for your questions. So we're gonna switch gears a little bit and have

a little bit of fun. So I'm gonna bring no but like a little more lighthearted, not so much. We're in a pandemic. Everyone scared, um from the mutating virus. Okay, let's breaking nia Nia. Where are you at? Hi? Hi? Yeah, I have a question for you. This is a little juicy. So I'm not sure if you tuned into the most recent season of the Bachelor with Matt James. But if you have seen, you know a few of the episodes. Are there any of the girls that caught your odd

you think are cute? We want to know we were really Swiss gears. We went from like trying to save the world to like just yeah, reality television. I mean, um, but that's a good question. I'll be honest with you. I I I've never watched the show before, and um, I think it's a long show. It's I can't believe people watched this thing for two hours of a week. I mean, listen, it's it's it's great programming and producers are great and film the filming. Everyone works really hard.

But the answers, I don't really know them well enough. Two parts one, Um, I don't know that the people well enough to answer unfortunately know the people will not only watched part of the first episode, really, and I know who gets eliminated because I'm curious, like who lasts based on that first episode, so I just google like

who who's out? Um? And two I also know the process kind of and how you know there's no script, No one makes you say anything, but there is you know, like you just see fasts of people you don't see you know, you see It's it's like you have a big painting. Are you just trying to light on the more interesting parts, more colorful parts? So, UM, there's more

to people than um what's shown on TV. Like for me example, for example, you know, you know, people seem to really like, um, some of the things they saw from the show, but they cut up the part where I punched been in the face. And if people have seen that, they would have thought of a completely different idea of what was Um. I'm still trying to make

it up to him. Um. Yeah, okay, so Dr Joe, I don't I'm not a hundred percent sure you're gonna like Nandy's question next because it is another bottom of the barrel, But we're gonna go this is amazing And um, I love it. I loved it and I love to answer a question because it's it is fun and the whole thing is doctors been on The Bachelor? Dr Joe, Dr Travis dork Or Yeah. I met a friend A friend of mine mentioned it was another emergency room doctor on there is like Nick and Carroll was a nurse?

Was Andy Baldwin a doctor? He's like, I'm going way back, Well, he was like a marine or a maybe something. I have to google that, Okay, Mandy, Hi, thanks good. I'm gonna stick with the name here, Dr Joe. I have a question for you, Dr Joe. I was looking at your Thanksgiving post and when you're saying how grateful you

were for the show, and I was super heart warmed. Um. So my question is, having had what seems to have been such a great and positive experience on the Bachelor, would you ever be interested in continuing your journey and maybe going on the Bachelor in Paradise And do you think that would be something you could even get time away from work for? Um. First of all, I'm surprised anybody read that thing. It's about a thousand pages, so, um,

thank you for that. Mandy did take time to write it, so you're the one person who read it, so thank you for that. As far as b I p um I I that's what car I p that's what the kids are calling these days. Um. I would say again, I'm still out there trying to you know, to find Mrs Park but if if there's nothing out there trying m R Jo Basler, and that means yes, he wants to go, but they haven't officially asked him yet, but if they do, he'll say yes, it's like partly it's flat.

It's like partly flat because the Bachelor All Star like hard act like I might do it, maybe dangle it. Um, But I don't know the answer to that question. If we don't know, I don't know if it's happened, but no one knows if it's happening. But I will say it was an amazing experience. And while I was there, it's it's kind of a deep dive. But while you're there, it's kind of like, um, I've had this conversation with people.

It's almost like interrogated, Yes, yes it is. You don't have your your removed from all your contacts, don't have your phone, no TV, no internet. Um, you're staying in this one confined area. Um, you stay, they make you stay up pretty late doing these fun things, but late at night, and then when you're done with it, they're trying to really bright light in your face and ask you a bunch of questions like do you love her?

And I'm like yeah, I Like it's like, really, do you think did you think Dale and Claire wouldn't make it longer than they did? Man? That is so hard. I mean they really. I mean, listen, we've all been there. You know, we we know what that honeymoon phases, like, we know what it's like to like fall head over

heels for somebody. Um, I just you know, when you're going to a commitment like engaging, engagement and getting married somebody, I think twelve days and however many hours I've spoken that day, can you really hash out, Hey, what do you do with your career? Where do you what do you want to do when you move? And how many kids do you want? And do you want to raise

your kids? And you know, like all these important questions, these minor details that kind of fall but felt might have fallen by the wayside and their short time they had together, so you know, it's well. I appreciate how fair you're being with that question, Dr Joe, But let's try it one more time. Were you shocked if they broke up? I was not shocked that they broke up. I mean I was hoping that they did. They wouldn't um, and I was rooting for them as as as America was,

you know, all vascination was. But I'm not shocked that they broke up. So I agree with you. Do you think Claire messed up? I don't know the right words. Uh, sort of sabotaged herself by not being open to the process and all the other men, because the odds were not with her that this was going to work out with the one guy she met three times? Did she blow it? Should she have gone through the process even if she was in the und ultimately going to end

up with Dale. I felt like she screwed herself by just being like I like that guy from the second he got out of her limo. UM. I will say this is easy to say now that that they've broken up. What if she had gone through the process and ended up with Blake, Let's say Blake Moyn's and they said together for three months. You know he lived in Canada, Like, who knows what could have happened, So it's easy to say now that's looking back and playing Monday morning quarterback saying, oh, yeah,

you know, it could have been somebody else. But I don't, you know, with these things, you never like there like another version, like my parents dated for six months before they got engaged, and you know, not in nine months. They were married from the time they met each other.

And then there are couples who know each other for eight years, they get married and then they divorced after Like you know, my parents still have been married after four years, right, And there are people who go out for eight years and then they divorced after a year marriter, So it's so hard to say, like what would have happened? Crap. But I still think she kind of blew it because look, this is just my opinion. If you're gonna buy into it doing it, you gotta buy into it and kind

of do it right. And she really like turned it on its side. Although I loved Tasia, so I was super stoked that we got Tasia. Yeah, here's my perspective on it. So I agree. I feel like she should have given a little bit of more time, and you know, I don't know how long that was, but it was

probably just a few weeks um. And but then I look back on it, and I'm like, if she just kept going with it, it would have been almost like a loser situation because she would have been that girl that would have disrespected the rest of the guys because she only had her eye on one of them. And so it was kind of like I thought she might have been in a losing situation either way. Does that

make sense? I think that's fair. Yeah, And not only that, looking it the other way, I mean, for her she felt so strongly for somebody, you know, for whatever reason, it would be almost like, you know, it's it's almost like she's like cheating on him by like kissing these guys continuously and holding their hands and go through that process too. So I don't blame her for making that decisions if she felt that what she did, Like, once you feel it, can we control how we feel? You know?

We can't unfeel, you know, That's how we work. I mean, I agree with you all, but still a smart person knows it was not the odds were not with her. It was so chancey. And then she's sort of I don't know. I mean, we could do a whole episode on that. Well, we'll move on alright, so many other things. We'll have to dive on Claire because I think she screwed up, but that's all right. Now she's and then

now she's all heartbroken and it sucks. Whereas like maybe I don't know, one of those other dudes was really her soul mate. We've all screwed up. She went to the shiny object. That's what it is. Okay, let's talk about this really fast. She went for the shiny object, which I've been told I go for the shiny object, and sometimes you're not supposed to go for the shiny object.

So Joe, why do ladies go for the shiny object instead of like, I don't know, the the metaphor the night at that or like right, the solid piece of metal if I'm going with the metaphor, Like, why are women, in your opinion as a man, so attracted to the shiny object? The male model? Dale? You know whatever, um I would say in fairness and Dale, he's not just a tiny Dale was actually very well spoken, very intelligent.

You know, he's like he's like I've said this before, and I said on the show multiple times interviews, like when we're going that through that transition phase on a first date or like in three dates, which is what the Bachelor is. If I went on the same date, the same amount of time with the girl and like Dale and I had like three hours with there at the same restaurant, you know, the same food, same drinks, the same everything. The girl Big Dale like under times

and that's just a fact. And that okay with me, Like he's he's a stud, like and that's like but you know, you know, but that's why we're so dumb, because yes, Joe, yes, because I think that's like you're you're only like thinking about the thing right in front of your face. But if you're thinking about like a happy life and like true love, like Dr Joe could be your man. I don't know. I've got like just

probably trash behind me too, kidding. Were talked about a donation, So yes, tell everybody, Tell everybody what you're doing with your which if people see this on our social that's not garbage. Behind Dr Joe, what are you doing? Yeah, I'm just gonna co drive And um I just was saying how um I posted on Instagram, I would love if people donate the coats. They recorded themselves and then

just posted it this Sunday, you know, January. So I just you know, it's getting really cold right now New York and a lot of parts of the US, and I figured I had some extra coats that I was gonna donate, and I asked my friends, and they have

some extra coats there that they could donate. I figured fascination is such a loving community that maybe they would have coats too, So I just made a post saying, if you have any coasts to donate, donate it, record yourself donating it, and on Sunday, January one, post a story of be donating it, you know, show people like, yeah,

you're like, I don't need this anymore. I hope somebody get used out of it and just tag me, And I would love to just repost it and be like yo, like we all did this together as a community, um, and just help, like just to show other people, you know, show ourselves and other people like which she brings us right back to being at the dinner table with you and Dale and God bless Dale. But ladies, stop with the shiny objects or he's very shiny though he's very

I mean he like he's like very burned. My eyes when I looked at him. Dart to Joe, Amy is hyping you up to a new level. And I'm here because doctor doctors are the brad Pitt. I don't get near you, but doctors are the new brad Pitt because it's like, holy crap, Like if you're like, yeah, this is my dude and he's a doctor, everybody's like what so okay before but yes, but I need to know what is happening with Dr Joe and his I know it's hard dating in a pandemic. I don't really like

advocate for it. It's a little, but it's hard. Like what are the ladies d M ing you? Like? What's happening? Obviously they're m a lot of inappropriate things. Please save that the inappropriate. I'm just kidding. No, it's actually very nice and uh there's some thirsty ladies, but then there's also some quality. There's some quality. Yeah, I honestly don't really respond to DM. I I don't know. I'm like I'm a millennial but just barely and I just quite understanding. Yeah,

I'm gonna set you up very sick, very six? Yes, and what's your ideal ad? Rings like thirty to forty? Um? Yeah, I think thirty to forty is great. You know, someone more like mature. It was kind of like, you know, knows himself. I think that's what everyone wants to some degree. Right, So I need to think this through, but we'll make it happen. Anybody you need to be in New York? Are you open to like long distance? Um? I think you know relationships are so hard as as it is

to make something work really meaningful. One. I was just looking for. Um, I think you know distance is important. You know proximity is pretty pretty. Can't we take into Connecticut or do they need to be like I think we could think it to try state? No? Maybe is good? All right? All right, um, Becky, let's go to Becky. Hi Joe, how are you, Becky? How are you good? Okay? So you are obviously very busy. Um, so I wanted to know, especially right now it's so stressful. What do

you one doing for fun outside of work? In two? How are you staying healthy during these times? Um? Yeah, good question. Um, definitely have had to improvise with the fun. I'll see what I'm not doing. I'm not eating in big groups and restaurants. I'm not traveling to you know, like Central America. I'm not going to big concerts with groups of friends. All things that I would love to do, you know during normal times. Um. But you know, really for fun, I just I like to I do like running,

um when you like working out. I do like reading. Um, I do like watching like nature documentaries and um my Active Teacher is actually great when I just watch, it's really good, really fun. Um. I like, you know, I'm just going to the internet, going on a weird like Wikipedia YouTube kind of loops. Um. And yeah, and and most of all, I just it's such a gift now, you know. So we do have some outdoor dining. It's really cool. But there's outdoor dining and maybe once a week,

you know, with appropriate distance. And again in the outdoor setting, it's still worth meeting um somebody um and just talking with somebody um. And this thing that we took for granted, you know, seeing a loved one, a friend, just sharing a meal and experience with this person and spending time with them. Ah, it's such a it's such an event.

It's such a beautiful thing now And I think that's something we can all take away that all the things that we had that were surrounded by, like for twenty four hours a day, you know, working from home and just being at home all the time, like none of it made us happy. Like it's all. It's all yes, you know, like that watch that ring, you know, the TV maybe we needed, but you know, all the things

just were meant nothing. I mean nothing. And the most important things, obviously are you know, sharing time, shared experiences with your loved ones um and obviously UM, doing the things that makes us happy UM and traveling and just experiencing things, experiences and people, things that I think obviously more important. And I try to do that as much as I can. So you're obviously not watching Bachelor, But are you watching any other TV shows? Like what do

you do at night to relax? Is that the bubble bath? Is it? Oh? Jeez? Nothing, I don't want. I barely watched TV. I mean that, like the like I watched sports sometimes, um, because it's dramatic and we all need some drama in our lives. And that's what I realized, Like humans are Like I don't watch The Bachelor or the Bachelor, Um, even though they are great shows Monday Monday MS, I don't care, but um and an institution.

Some would consider the Bachelor Bach institution of television. But um, that is like a relationship drama, and that's something I really just don't care for in the real sense. So I don't know. I wouldn't go and seek it out on TV. But what I realized is as a man, a lot of men like drama too. They just get a de form. It's like drama is a drug that we all crave, and I just before my life is last minute shots and game any touchdowns and some and and maybe some people love it in the form of

relationship like where she won't she? That's somehow men think Intel Ladies like, yeah, listen up, that's how many things intel. They like it too, but they just get it from sports. Yeah, do you go or play tennis or pickle ball, which is the fastest growing sport in America. I just learned, what's what do you got going? I pickle I gotta get onto the pickle ball ground. Huh jeez. I heard pickle ball is very hot, hot hot. I ordered the cattles.

I haven't used them, But what what's your sports, Joe, or is it just I love surfing. I've got a couple of I got two boards right here, like looking at me in the face right here. Unfortunately they stayed pretty dry. Um. I have surved in the winter, but it's a little hard. Um, it's not the most enjoyable. And normally I will travel, but obviously that's not of thing, so surfing would be the other thing. Um. I do like to run, um and just again just go to gym. Um.

I do like basketball when it's available. I don't play as much, um, but yeah, I just I think movement in any form it gets those en doorphins out and I really think it is a key. One of the keys to promote people from to happiness is just we cannot set up Dr Joe like either. I am going to find you your girl. I'm really good at it, really good. So we have one more question um that I think a lot of people really relate to you right now. UM. So I'm gonna bring in Riley um

to ask her question. Hi, Dr Joe. Um. So, I don't know what's been going on, but I am at a peak high anxiety right now and I just want to know if you had any tips to help me out anything I can do? Oh man, Um, first, sorry to hear that, Riley. Um, but I think I think we all have anxiety right now. Mine right mine is I don't know what's going on besides the world. I don't you know anything I can control. Um. I Again,

I don't think there's a good answer to that. To be honest, Um, I think it's really natural and normal at this time in life to have some anxiety. I think it'd be weird not to have anxiety. So I think, well, I'm just recognizing that, you know, it's okay. You know, like you how feeling how you're feeling is is justified

and honor that feeling. You know, it's it's normal. Like as a as a female, Like what I like to do to do that or like to kind of settle my anxiety is a hot bath or working out or Um I've recently got into see the d um like what do guys do? Like what what are guys? You know? Like what do guys do to kind of relieve some

of their anxiety? Yeah, that's a good question. So I think, um, like a lot of guys and again in different forms will just like to really exert themselves, like like you gotta like get out that pent up And I think anxiety is this part of it is. And again this is just you know, one man's opinion, but it's this nervousness, this energy that you have pent up that's towards something that you can't control, like depending on like the situation

that's going around us. And and so it's just this nervous part of this is the nervous energy, as almost some anxiety is. And so two one you expanded energy. Men. I think I love to lift weights and to run and to you know, play sports because this thing, again, it's all of this just using that some of that energy that we all have that kind of when we sit still could just have these outlets where you know,

we create tension. If we don't create tension by moving, by by like running faster or or straining our muscles, then that tension kind of goes somewhere and maybe that goes to our psyche. And so I think movement is a big thing. And and again doubly good is that movement not only releases that pent up energy that I think could feed some anxiety, you also also obviously release releases endorphins, so it's like it's doubly good. So, um, I do think it. It approaches that anxiety in multiple ways.

And I just think for men, movement and physical activity in whatever form that may be, is a good Why you men? And I'm being general because I think there's exceptions, but as a rule, men do not enjoy a bath, not a guy move That's a really good question. And uh and and and obviously Danny said that's one of

the things, like one of our go choose. And I was just thinking, like I don't know the answer to that question, because it seems great, you know, just to soak in something and smell good so you run hot and it's too sweaty in there or something. I don't think that's it. Let me give it a second to think. Why don't Could it just be the connotation like what if they made like they could be a market here

like bubble bath it feels too soft, feels girly. There could be something to that again just by association, like why do you why do you women like um not women? Why why is pink associated with women? Like don't I don't know, It's like it's just society kind of decided at some point movies, it was Julia Roberts in the bubble bath, not Richard Richard gear. Did she pull him

in at some point though? Wasn't he kind of in there? Yeah, kind of like she's going to make all that money and she's like cut her headphones on and she's like classic movie. But yeah, I don't know this bubble. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a deep dive int the bubble baths. And because I'm curious about that too, because it does sound great. It does sound very relaxing the muscles and kind of chill a bath in that New York apartment. Um,

I do, but again as a man, it's gone unused. Unfortunately, we need to send Dr Joe a little thank you basket for hosting how many things that has some bath bombs, some candles, like a whole little thing. You're pretty much sending me a big paperweight then, because they will never do Riley, I'm not sure if that answered your question, but but hanging there, and I do hope that's you know, as society gets back to normal, that I hope and I think that anxiety, Um, we'll get better. And again

you're not alone. We're all feeling it and uh yeah, good luck and you're gonna it's gonna be okay, I promised. Thank you all hanging there. I think Dr Joe needs his and I think you're doing great already seriously, like Dr So yeah, Doctor, I can't think of like the if I say Dr Doug Ross, it's too it's too archaic of a reference for our young ladies listening, because that's George Clooney from e R. But like you're like

the TV doctor, like you're pretty smooth. Would you ever like be the Doctor Gupta or the Doctor Oz or the I think you're doing it now? No, I don't think so not not in there for him um and not because they don't well, I think those three are different, um in what they their their mission is as a doctor on TV Dr Gupta, I have a lot of respect for um just semate great information, very fact based information, and I'll leave it that um. But I really like this.

I like talking to individuals. I like seeing patients. I like talking to them, and uh, I don't think I would ever want to not do that because it is such a sacred bond that you form and it's such a so weird. It's just it's interesting to me and play on the surgeries or are you ever in the e er where suddenly they're like, I don't know, some dramas happening and you have to like put somebody under

a real fast dat like that. Yeah, there's definitely some of that, especially during COVID there's a lot of that. You know, we we were putting in the breathing tubes, which I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, we did all these in debasions the majority of divisions, and so it was it was pretty it's pretty hairy, um and it was pretty scary. And yeah, there's definitely times where there's scheduled surgeries, for sure, but there's definitely times where even

the scheduled surgeries, a lot of weird things happen. And and then my set my hospital work as a trauma centers, there's always somebody rolling in, who if my car felt? Our story is so, yeah, you're speaking a little bit of crazy here and there are either are either mom or Dad park a doctor? No, No, you're just you have older brothers are radiologists. Oh no, okay, so that's interesting to your older brother is also a doctor. Yeah, he's a really elogist. Yeah, in New York. Also in

New York. Also, Yeah, he works out on the Alloland. Do I have to find him a wife or does he have a wife? Yeah? I know he's good. He asked one. He's fine. Yeah, So we'll focus on you guys. Thanks so much for having me. There's a lot of fun, and thanks to everyone who called in and asked the question. Um, they're a really good questions. That's super informative, and uh, I hope everyone learned something. Um, you know, we're all going through a really tough time right now. Um, it's

been hard. There isn't a single person that hasn't been affected by the pandemic personally, economically, you know, like psychologically, socially, and so in every way we could possibly think of. But this vaccine does offer hope, and it is going to save millions of lives. And the sooner we can all get it, you know, part of that's not a lot of that's not not control. But the sooner we can all get it, the sooner we'll all go back

to life as we knew it before. But that path there, you know, we see that light at the end of the tunnel. But the way they're still you know, right now, we're in very dark times that that that tunnel is still very dark and scary before we reached that light. So it's important to keep social distancing, keep wearing the mask, keep washing the hands, and and stay strong. And we're

all gonna get through this together. We just gotta stay strong for the time being and and yeah, and then we'll appreciate it even more once once it's over, and it will end