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You know? I asked my dad, my dad see, I said, Dad, you ever see anything like this? He said, never, never, anything similar, nothing even close. Isn't it wild? It's absolutely It's like absolutely bananas. Man. The whole world is on high alert. The whole world pretty much is almost on lockdown. It's a phenomenal and devastating event, like this is something that will go down, Like going to the grocery store.

I have gloves on, I'm wearing a mask, I have my hood over my head, standing six ft apart from each other, waiting to enter the grocery store, one in, one out, like I'll never pick up groceries. Yeah, put my hockey gear on and go to the grocery store. Um. Yeah, man, I'll never forget that feeling and and you know, and seeing bare aisles and so grateful right now for one, the health care workers, the people that are taking care, risking their own lives, taking care of people who have

the coronavirus. And to um, the rest of the support staff, the people, the clerks at the grocery store, the people that ship the food, the people that keep this world running and keep us alive in these times. I pray every single meal for the protection and the guidance and the support of those people. Um. It's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing to see some of the best of humanity come

forward in a time of crisis. Yeah, I agree with you. Man, Well we'll put it's uh if you can only you can only appreciate it when things get bad, you know what I mean? Man, where are you? That's when they step up? Where you at my house in Nashville, and uh, I live downtown, so things are really peculiar, you know. Uh. And a lot of people they have you know, they

live outside in the country or the suburbs or you know. Um, but I live in the epicenter of tourism in Nashville, Tennessee, and I'm used to hearing music blaring up and down the streets here and and seeing bats red parties and everybody you know, rocking their cowboy hats in their cowboy boots and partying and taking fettle taverns up down the street and hanging at at our bar, and bands playing live everywhere, and people laying out by the pool. And

it is absolutely a ghost town. And at this point, um, you know, there's a there's a park near me, and there's always been like a high concentration of homeless folks in that park and that hasn't ended. That's still there. So when you go outside now, there's a higher population of homeless walking around in that area and on the streets than there are people with uh with jobs or with or with homes. It's really it's just it's just upside down around here. It's just it's just absolutely it's

absolutely twilight zone. It's crazy. Hey, it's just even like l a play is just like there's nobody on the freeways, there's nobody in town. And it's great, Like I love that people are practicing the social distancing and the safer at home and staying at home. Um, trying to like curve this and end this as soon as possible. I love the people are doing it, but man does it

create an eerie feeling. But the more space you see, the less people you see out Like I remember a couple of weeks ago they gave the safer at Home order in l A, encouraging people to stay at home and Runyon Canyon, all the hiking trails, the beaches. Everything was still just slammed. Um people weren't. Yeah, because businesses have shut down. People were supposed to be at home, but then they were. They were out and about because

the weather was great. They wanted to be active until they really got the scope of how how serious this thing is, this coronavirus is, and then have now taken upon themselves and and are staying at home. So it's

nice to see people and hearing for that. Yeah, I I agree with you, But you know, for for people who live in apartment buildings and stuff like that, I mean, I don't see how you are really how you can really feel safe if you need to go outside the walk your dog, um, because you know you're gonna hop an elevator if you live above you know, six floors, you know, um, and what do you do? Like? You know,

I just I just saw a guy. I was on my way down to walk the dog, um and uh, you know, I saw a guy got un friendly within the building and uh, you know, the door opened up on his floor and I said, sorry, bro, man, I'll send it back up. You know what I mean, to your floor, because you know, you can't can't be sharing an elevator with somebody that's not exactly room to roam in there. And and uh he was like yeah, man, no problem, no problem. And I saw him outside. I

bumped in on him again. He goes hey, man, I said, hey, dude, sorry about that. He goes hey. He goes I don't want to have to take you off my playlist. I said, actually, man, will do you take my phone number down? Because it's just in case it hits the fan around here. We need to be able to contact each other. It was like absolutely on that playlist. Get them all those royalties again. Oh yeah, I get you though. That's one thing. Unfortunately

having a home, we just have a private entrance. Um. But yeah, if you're in a if you're in an apartment building or condo building, my heart goes out to you. But even when I go out, if I go out anywhere, I'm going with a face mask and I'm going with latex gloves on. Um every single time, just be because I don't want only not only do I not want to get it, I don't want to be responsible for spreading it. So if I did get it, I don't want to give it to anybody or you know, anything

like that. It's just I've been watching. Yeah, I've been watching this for months. Like when they started talking about it in January, I'm like, this thing's coming. Um. I never anticipated it would be this big, but I was like, this is coming. Um, But man, is it a wild time. But I also think it's an I also think it's a real the travesties aside the death's acide. That's that is tragic. We're not we're not skipping over that. That

is absolutely tragic. But I also think it's a real opportunity in ways because there's not as much distraction in our life of we're not driving to and from work, there's more time at home. It's a real opportunity in other ways to experience different parts of life, maybe parts that we overlook, um, things that we don't dedicate enough time to anything like that. About that, that's a great point.

Are there any ways in your life currently where you're like, wow, this is actually you know, it's as tragic as it is. I've found a way to make it a blessing and make it an opportunity in ways that I never would have experienced before. Uh Man, you know, I do, I do understand that. I do totally understand what you're talking about.

I think for a lot of people who live particularly regular day to day life where they you know, they leave their families to go to work, they come back, they're too tired to hang with their family, this and that, I could totally see that being UM time a beautiful thing, being able to spend some time with their family, almost like forced socialization in that way, you know. UM. But at the same time, you know the uh, you know,

being being pulled away from a normal, normal, normal, other circumstances. Obviously, it's so so heavy on you. UM. For me, I've been applying it, you know, trying to get creative. But there was a period there I just really felt like I couldn't get greeted. You know. Um, I was just too occupied with all right, I gotta go get food. I gotta get these essentials, those essentials. I need to

go get this. And I mean, you know, immediately when all the stuff started piling on, you know, I was out totally outside of the how do I see the beauty in this? And was completely in prepper mode, strictly prepper mode, you know what I'm saying. Um, And you know, people have their own version of prepper mode. Mine wasn't going and buying buying every roll of toilet paper. Um. You know, I'm from the I'm from the woods, so my pepper mode is totally different. And so it's funny

when I have conversations. Yeah, I'm all stocked up on toilet praper, you know, I'm like, that's your prep? What kind of prep is that? You know what I'm saying? So did you prep? What? What about food? Did you get any food? Not yet? But I got all the toilet paper probably, but how kinds of steaks sitting in your freezer? But I'll tell you, man. Um, so there's that,

there's that. But um, but you are right, I think there really is beauty and finding the fact that you do know the people you can rely on and the people who are contacting you, and the people who are reaching out and acting like they care about you, UM,

because that matters, you know, that matters, UM. And my personal life here, it's been tough because my dad had open heart surgery, uh some months back, and you know, he's been he had a couple of strokes, so I can't really leave him alone, UM, And so it's been tough because you know, there's that balance of oh, how much contact can I have about that? How close can I do? You my dad? But at the same time, you know, if I wasn't checking in on my dad, I want to you know, seeing him having a seizure,

you know what I mean. And so and so these are the things. These are just different, you know, equations, and it's just different calculates for every household and every every family member or roommate or friend or whoever you you are hunkered down with. UM. You know, we're all just doing the best weekend to you know flattened so called flatten the curve. UM. But there's so many other factors here that I think are you know, very horrifying

to me. Um, this this virus is one thing. Yes, it is lethal to some people, but you know, what about the suicide rate? What about the suicide rate? You know what, how is that going to change? Because people are being as lutely wiped out, unemployed, hungry, you know, Um, their lives are falling apart. Yeah, what about the other deaths that are going to come from the stress of

this that? You know, the anxiety creates its own health problems, you know, And so so there's there's other things here that I find really terrifying, way past the virus itself, and then said the the the you know, the effects on the economy. I mean I own a bar here. Um, I mean I could see it from my house and you know just at our bar. Uh, you know, the bar had to shut down. And that's what is that? Sixty five people too who can't work? Yeah, you know

how the pressing is that? And and um, you know oftentimes when you're working in that industry, you know, you're you're not living check to check or week to week. That's day to day money, man, That's that's your money or the day is the money you're relying on for that You're really like, how do I get through today, well, I gotta make X amount of dollars by the end of the day or on I'm screwed. It's tough that you can feel that, you can just feel the energy

in the world. You can, UM, But I don't believe that they're that people are. You hear about business owners taking out loans to be able to still pay employees, like, there's some amazing stories that you still hear about. Like I said before, I think I think some of the best parts of humanity come out in a crisis time. UM. I've reached out to a couple of people that I know are low income, UM that I've had to do some work for me, for us, UM, just to make

sure they're okay. UM. I think so much of that is going on. The people that can afford to do it, I think are reaching out with all of branches, left, right and center to help anybody. At least they are and they do. But most businesses simply don't have UH an operating account that would permit it. Period. The majority of businesses simply don't live in that level of surplus. Period. Yeah, it's gonna be scary, And the fact is there's what's

that Yeah, keep going. What are you gonna say. I'm just saying that the you know, there comes a point where you know, you can't borrow any more money for something. You know what I'm saying, Like, not every business can operate like that. Yeah, you know so, And it's it's it's insane, it's gonna be. There's many things coming. You touched on on a lot of them. There's many things coming. One there's I mean, we haven't even hit the peak

of this yet right there talking that. You know, listen to President Trump talking about this week is gonna be there's gonna be a lot of deaths this week in the US, and then next week might even be the week. Um, there's projections going out that I'm listening to a lot of stuff on coronavirus. There's projections that, um, it's gonna be heavy until the end of June and then maybe

middle of August it's gonna start slowing down. Um, there's projections, projections of hundreds of thousands of death upward of two hundred thousand deaths, um. And then they're talking about a second wave of this. What happens when the economy picks up starts up again, everybody goes back to work. Is

the second wave of this in the fall. And then, like you said, Gav, the amount of fallout from this, the um collateral damage, the suicides, the drug use, the anxiety, UM, these things that are not being measured right now and won't have statistics on, but are definitely going to affect people, uh in right now or in the months coming. And they've done studies. They look at studies for and stats from the Great Depression, how drug use and suicide spiked

back then. Um. There's a lot of other things also for for affluent people, people who own a business, somebody like somebody like yourself. You own a bar, you own a restaurant, and then all of a sudden you aren't able to operate. That is your life savings put into a restaurant or a business, whatever it is, and now all of a sudden you're bankrupt. That is that is another layer of stress, of anxiety, of pressure, and beyond and beyond that, it's the it's the it's not even

about the debt. It's not about the loan, it's not about your rent, it's not about the bills. Ultimately, it's I have pride in providing jobs to people, It makes them a living, It pays for their houses, it pays for their cars, do you know what I mean? And now, if those businesses can't stay open, those people have no way to generate income. Do you know what I mean? And uh, And so it's it's beyond what what builds you have for that place. The biggest thing that upsets

me is there's no jobs for those people. There's no jobs for those people in these in that entire service industry doesn't exist. You know, here's a question for you, Gav. But here's a question for you. So as a as a bar owner, right like, right now, we're not being told anything on when the economy is going to reopen, when we're going to go back to work, anything like that. Um, they're saying, they're saying they're hopeful for May, maybe saying

they're hopeful for June. But we're not being told a definitive clearly because we haven't UM level the curve yet here um and got control of this. But at what point do business owners forgo that and say I need to open up, I need to know a great it's you know, it's a great question. It's a perfect question. Here's the The interesting thing that's happened with the rise of of of the technologies and social media is that you can really push certain social agendas and a common

social consciousness. Right. The bad thing about that, the bad thing about that is whatever the rolling ball is down the hill, I want it's decided which ball that is that's rolling down the hill of the collective consciousness, which the social media, which social media has to ultimately lean in become. Right, whatever the pop culture version of opinion is becomes the gospel. Right. So if you were to open up the bar, let's say and people go, fuck it, let's just go have a good time. And if I'm

gonna go down, I may as well go down in flames. Right, go out there and take a risk, and if you get sick, and get sick, right, ask from your approach and you open the doors. He said, let's sew a

party a coronavirus party. Right. If you do that, hey, yeah, some people might show up, but be you would absolutely basically, as far as public opinion goes, run the risk of having your ankles shackled in chains and thrown into the river for your reputation because your social cond just miss wasn't elevated enough to care about the planet in the world, and the people you understand to be an element of that demonizing you for operating, which is understandable because I

understand all schools of thought here, which are survival, staying afloat, putting food on the table, needing to eat, and at the saint time, running the risk of infecting somebody because you were too callous or not careful enough. Right, So

we're all in this huge predicament. And but you know what I think is the biggest thing and the scariest thing about this whole this whole environment right now, is we run the risk of setting precedent for losing certain constitutional rights whenever a so called threat arrives at any kind. That's the scary part of all this to me. I'm a freedom guy. I'm gonna live at your own risk

personality type. So if you're told you're not permitted to do this or that because it makes you not careful enough for you know, the you know, other people in your society, and they'll shame you for going into the grocery store, you know, or two of you walking close together. Um, because it's a medical risk. We're a life risk of

some kind, we we start to run the risk. Then at that point of setting a precedent of being able to enforce anything, any sort of restriction, any behavioral restriction, simply by coming out and saying, oh, there's another virus. Everybody stay home and you're not allowed to leave your house. You could say it at any point. I was listening to I was listening to something on this yesterday. Um, they're talking about how after nine eleven, how all of a sudden T s A. There was pat downs and

people were in an operation. They're patting me down at the airport. Are you kidding me? They're touching patting me down. Now, fast forward, fast forward twenty years. Um, it's nothing. You get to the airport, you just expect it, right, It's just part of everyday life. Now. So now now the new norm, like you said, is oh there's a virus, everybody stay at home. We stop everything. Businesses shut down, stay at home, schools shut down, work from home, stay

at home. Whole economy shuts down. And I see what you're saying is that the future is that going to be a new norm five years from now, ten years from now, with that's right, yeah, when something comes down spot on, because guess what, anytime they pat me down, I'm still thinking in my head, just can hands off of me? Anybody gets anybody gets six. No, it's true, it's true. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking, get your hands off of me. I haven't committed a crime. I'm

not even suspected of a crime. You shouldn't be allowed to touch me. Yeah. Man, it's interesting debate. We could go all day on this because they're doing it there. It's like, it's not against you, it's nothing personal against you. It's a it's a safety obviously you know what it's for. But I get your pushback. Well, you know what, when you can point to the examples of when it's actually work to stop somebody from taking down a plane, then

you'll have an argument. But they're there army, so you know, to discussion right now. So the same discussion right now about coronavirus. There's I've heard a rumor that apparently they and I don't know if this is true. It's just I'm listening to all kinds of different resources on this.

So I've heard a rumor that they figure everybody is going to get this by the end of the year in the US that everyone will have got it, And if they announced that now, everyone would just go out right now because they're like, well, I'm gonna get it at some point, So why why not? Like why would I Why don't I open my bar? You know, because I'm going to get it. Patrons are going to get it. Why not get it now and not lose the flood

the health care system and then you have real problems. Yeah, But then there's also there's also the weight hearing some really interesting debates on the weight of the economic cost versus the life cost. And everyone will always say that they are fully on board for saving as many lives

as possible. I believe every single human would say that. Um, but there's discussions that if we shut down the entire cont economy for months more, you know, and the death rate is two thousand people, or what if we don't shut anything down past April and the death rate is a hundred and forty people. People are really having this discussion is it worth there's sixty lives difference there. Let's just say that's what it was. Would it be worth

the shutdown? You know? Because how many you haven't factored in suicides or um like if if businesses go under, if people lose their homes, um their life savings. You're looking at suicide, drug youth, Um you have more casualties. Well, does it even out over the course of a year. There's some real interesting discussions. And none of this is meant to be unsympathetic or uncompassionate or unempathic. They're just looking at real world possibilities to try iran guide this

thing forward in a in a state of complete uncertainty. Um, it's just fascinating to learn, to listen and to learn it really is just fascinating to hear some of the best minds deal with a black swan event that we've never experienced in our lifetime. But you know what, but look at all the look at all the numbers, man, I mean, look at the types of numbers you have, the types of deaths you have from the flue season, the types of deaths you have from car accidents per day.

You know, I mean, are we gonna pull We're gonna stop all traffic? You're gonna stop all traffic because the amount of deaths every day in the United States. No, they're not. They're not because they would create an economic melt down, one just like the one that's happening right now. Um so so yeah, I do understand the concept of

being socially conscious and wanting to save lives. My worry is at it it's not going to work, and we're going to end up with You're gonna end up with many cases of people who um, and let me point this out, by the way, just prior to this becoming a much bigger thing, we had the tornado here in Nashville about a mile from my house, you know, and there's people who lost their home then lost their job because of this economic meltdom. Yeah, and they're gonna end

up losing family members anyway from the virus. So they're gonna be people with no jobs, no house, and no family member of some kind. You know. We're trying to stop it. I understand we're taking an approach, but my fear is ultimately that basically every time to go him, it gets in the ball to do something, even when it's with good intentions, it's set a bad precedent and creates more harm and good. Ah, that's it's such an interesting debate, man, It just is. It's just such a

I love looking at both sides of it. I love looking at actually two sides of this. Definitely two sides to this, there really are. And I think that we're both understanding that that there is obviously a threat. The virus is definitely a threat. You know, my father is at risk for this, you know, Um, obviously we're all at risk for this, but his, his, he statistically runs a much greater risk if he if you get this um of not surviving it or impassing to him much

more severely. Um. So unfortunately, you know it hasn't happened yet, um, thank god. But um, but you know, he and I discussed this, you know, he and I discussed this because you're talking about somebody who you know, he's got sons who were in businesses, right, and you know anxiety or shress can bring on another stroke for him, yeah, or seizure. You see. So it's creating other factors by making the economy suffer see treating medical factors for people with other

medical conditions. When the economy uh comes to a screeching pault, they're they're having debates about like is it what is the blowback? You know, what is the collateral damage? If we open it back up? Or what is the collateral damage if we keep the economy closed, like waging the flateral damage versus the lives lost due to the virus. Um. It's a fascinating discussion. Nobody's right on it, nobody has the crystal ball on it. Um. I agree, I agree in minds working hard on it, I'm sure. Um, but

we're gonna agree. What What are the what are the banks supposed to do? I mean, what are the banks supposed to do? What are the property owners supposed to do? What are the h O ways supposed to do? You know? Can they go around collecting their fees if there's nobody working in the buildings to you know, provide maintenance anymore? Do they still get their fees? Uh? Do they? You

know what I'm saying? Uh? You know, can the banks go and collect if there's no if if the engine has come to a halt, can they still say you owe this, you owe that? You know what? As I'm listening to you talk, it's what's really become an apparent to me is just are how high our level of dependency is as human beings, as society? Because all of a sudden, some of these things go away. Like, let's say, all of a sudden, the virus was so bad that people did not want to work at all at grocery stores,

and food was not shipped to a grocery store. Right now, people training because they have to wait to get into the store. Or you can only buy x amount of an item to two eggs or two things of eggs, things of milk, or one thing of toilet paper. Everything is rationed right now because everything is everybody is so hectic. Um, and there there's a lot of complaints and stuff going on about that, but this stuff is still being delivered to us. You know. Take away our basic fundamental services

and there would be ka utter chaos in the world. Um, you know what it is. Interestingly, let me let me liken it to something I find fascinating. Okay, So, over the years, we've lost a ton of manufacturing jobs in the United States, in absolute ton of them, right and fortunately there are some manufacturers that still exist in the country. I remember years ago, but uncle said to me when I was griping about a band out for some car company. He said, yes, I know the complaints and it's legitimate.

But he said to me, but God forbid there's a war, you're going to need somebody to make the tanks. And I said, you know what, good point. Interestingly, we're not building tanks right now for this. We're making masks, we're making respirators. So it makes sense why you need manufacturing in your own country right now? I liken that to manufacturing I'm stretching, but to the manufacturing from your home.

Why do we need the grocery store because nobody knows how to fucking garden anymore, because nobody knows how to plant a tomato. All your buddies should tell you how educated they are because they have a master's degreeing, am I here, how about you plant me a tomato genius? Right so so, and then the right so so. Then

at that point there, what's that? It's just lazy too? Well, what the irony is that we've learned all of these exceptional skills and we have all these exceptional degrees that actually don't provide I had any essential services to ourselves, like having your own food. God forbid. They shut the grocery store down, God forbids. Yeah, it's people will be eating each other in three days on the street, um convenience. As I'm thinking about it. Convenience induces a state of

almost learned helplessness, no doubt about it. Man and we. I feel like this is a lesson of for a lot of us who live in an urban environment or a suburban environment. I'm just vulnerable. I need to manufacture, I need to grow. I need to be able to exist, survive, thrive on my own. If need be completely and have these things, these ducks in a row du I've talked created completely different reality. I've talked about this for a long time in my life. Um, I started hunting when

I was thirteen. I hunt whitetailed deer back in Canada. Grew up fishing, and I've always said I've always wanted to be able to hunt and fish because if if we ran I always said, if we ran out of oil, if the world ran out of oil, things are going to come to a screeching halt. And I need to be able to provide. So I'm actually up at my lake house in Idaho, where you have half acres on water front. I can fish. UM can't hunt now, it's not the season, but you can if if need be.

I would hunt in the hills, in the in the in the woods back here, and I have water. You know, I could burn wood and oil. I could survive. And I've always thought about that, and it's a far from thought like I always thought about that. It's like it's so far fetched. The world's not gonna shut down. It's going to continue to operate. My fear was if we ran out of oil that it would But I never thought of a virus or something like this that would come along. But I will say it is nice to

have skills to be able to provide for yourself. Beat the conveniently to a store and buying food is wonderful and a gift from God. Um. And I'm so grateful for the people that are responsible for getting that food there, for allowing myself to um but also to live off the land, whether it's gardening, fishing, hunting. UM. I think is just an underrated life skill that you know. But

here's the great irony of it, man. You know, the great irony of it is for so many people who leave a country environment and go to the city or the suburbs or whatever. If you say you grew up like that, you were looked at like such a hillbilly. You were looked at socially in those city environments by so many of those types of people, like you are so far beneath them because you would take a life. Oh,

I see what you're saying. Yeah, I actually I get what you're saying when I tell people in Manhattan that I was from upstate New York. And yeah, of course we went hunting when we're you know where we're growing up. Oh, oh, dude, when I was when I was thirteen. Like, hunting is a very spiritual thing for me. Um, Hunting isn't about going and killing. I've never hunted for sport. The only reason I would ever hunt is to eat the meat

of whatever I was going to hunt. And I remember when I was thirteen when I first killed a white tailed deer, and our family, my dad and I and my brother made deer sausage for our family. Um. I prayed every single night for a week, thanking that animal for giving its life to be able to provide for

our family. It is, well, you know what, and you know what, all all those things that you did, you wereciating it and and and you know, fishing, these really are the fundamentals, the fundamentals of of surviving, of surviving, UM and people just they don't do it, or they never did it, or they look down to look down

on it. I think some Yeah, like I was fortunate to have my dad taught me to fish, to fill it fish, to be able to catch a fish and be able to put it, like to fill it it, to put it on a hand, to be able to cook it. Um. Anyway, we could go to this all day, but let's get one of our How Men Think podcast team members has had coronavirus. Remember Hanna who worked for us before she went back to school. She was in turn worked with us UM. She was traveling abroad in Spain,

studying abroad in Spain, and ended up getting coronavirus. So we're gonna get Hanna on right after this break. We're gonna hear her story back from break on another coronavirus edition of Hell Men Think. I hate not seeing your face gave. I hate not seeing Rick Dmitri, Ryan Easton,

our engineer, he Tory Danielle. I like, one of my favorite things about doing this podcast, probably my favorite thing, UM is seeing the people that we do it with, and any other favorite is being able to serve our listeners, our community. But I miss seeing everybody's face and back with us. We have Hannah, Hannah, how are you hey? I'm good? How are you? I miss everyone? One yeah, one, we miss you. Um. You were part of the initial

how Men Think team until you went back to school. Um, but I want to send my heart out to Johanna. How are you doing? Um? Can you share your story with coronavirus and how it's affected you. Yes, I'm doing much much better now, thank goodness. But I came back.

So I was spending a brown Barcelona, and I came back because my school in Spain sent all the kids home, and so I came back on March thirte that Friday, and like two days previous to leaving Spain, I wasn't feeling my best, but I don't think I really took it seriously. I kind of just like pushed past. I was trying to pack up all my things and just get out of there as quickly as possible. And so then a couple of days later, Monday, UM, after I got back, I got tested and for four days around

that time was like my worst. I was like in bed, couldn't really move, I had troubled breathing, but I didn't have that high of a fever. It's a slight fever. It was just like this terrible chest pain. And I got my results back a week later and tested positive and have had to just really lay low and quarantine, and so has my family because they have all been exposed to me as well. So it's been an ordeal.

Oh my heart goes out to you. I'm glad you know. Um, so you are currently at home at your mom and

dad's place or where are you at now, Hannah? Yeah, correct, So I flew back into San Francisco and now I'm just at my parents house with my sister and we've all been just quarantining together or no nobody no. So they have been completely asymptomatic, have been feeling a hundred percent and they kind of like wish that they could get tested just because they were around me and exposed to me, but they can't get test it because they have absolutely no symptoms, so they kind of just have

to assume that they had it and take the extra take like extra precaution and just not see anyone, not leave the house. And they've been just stuck in the house waiting for an additional two weeks to be safe Hannah do Um, do you have any recollection or idea possibly of how you might have got coronavirus? Remember a

person coughing or I think that. I mean, I definitely got it when I was in Spain, for sure, um, and I had this gnarly, gnarly cough or probably like two weeks before coming home, and I remember my parents came and they m they met me in Paris for the weekend, and I texted my mom before meeting them, I was like, I don't even know if I can come, I'm so sick. And I think that around that time is when I was getting it, because everyone I was with had this gnarly cough and everyone just was not

feeling their best. And when I heard about this, I think of, like, how many people we're sick that maybe didn't get tested but passed passed through coronavirus. But like, I wonder what the true stats are, Like I don't think. I don't think these stats are people that that have tested positive or even a fraction of the amount of people that have had it. No, I completely agree. I

completely agree. I think that everyone I was with in Spain, there's no way that like of us, like don't have it, Like I think, so many people have it and because they're asymptomatic, they don't even know they have it, but their carriers and then they passed it along to so many people. That's so scary. Yeah, what has been the scariest part for you about having coronavirus UM? I just worry.

I worry about getting it to my parents, and like it was worrying me because when I came home, even before I got tested and before I got my test results back, I was exposed to my mom and she went grocery shopping with her grandparents, And so that's what gave me so much anxiety. I was like, oh my gosh, if I had somehow given it to my mom and my mom gave it to my grandparents, that is what scared me. Um. And when I was sick, the only thing that really was worrying me was like my chest pain.

But I didn't have I didn't have it that bad. I feel actually really lucky that I didn't have a super bad fever or get super bad symptoms. Yeah. Oh man, my heart goes out to you. Thank you. I know it's such a food time right now, but I feel lucky that it wasn't that bad. So Hannah, thinking on big, big, big picture, what is your biggest worry about this virus?

Now outside of your side of your family are you Are you more worried that the virus is going to spread, or you more worried about the effects on the economy, or if you were to choose a version of things you need to think you should watch out for. We all need to watch out. Well, what do you think

is your biggest worry? Um? Well, I would just say something that worries me as I see like on social media also a lot of people like maybe not taking it seriously because they haven't felt direct effects to them or they don't know anyone, um. And so that's what worries mean, is that some people just seriously aren't taking it seriously at all. Um. Right, And it does worry me too, especially being a college student and I mean

graduating from college in one year. It does worry me about jobs and also with a lot of my friends, like a lot of their internships for the summers have fallen through and now they are left with no job, and they've been trying to reach out to people and get something else. But everyone is just so uncertain right now, So I think it's scaring a lot of people, which also scares scares me at the same time. Economic times, Yeah, you can always will always welcome you back to the show. Yeah,

thank you. I know it's I mean, I feel lucky also that I mean, of course amy in everything. But it's just like an uncertain time to like knowing that I'm going to graduate college in a year and things are looking great with the economy. It's unsettling, of course. Very yah um. Yeah, I think and what you said they're about I have the fear of that too. Of

the people. People aren't taking this seriously. You know, when I go up with what I The other day, I was at I went to Costco to get some toilet paper because I have too even year old neighbors that I'm looking after this time because the wife has some underlying health issues. And so whenever I go out, Um, I'm going gloves and I'm going masks and a hood over my head. Um, and I'm at Costco and I'm

I was one of the only ones. There wasn't very many people with masks or gloves on, and people were looking at me like I was like, jeezus, one guy walked by it goes the world is sure changed, and I should have said something to him, but I didn't. It wasn't um, It wasn't the point of me getting into it with him. But like, the reason I do that is because I'm buying toilet paper for somebody that

has underlying health conditions. I come home, I rub it down um with some cleaning wipes, and then I let it sit here for five days before I drop it on their doorstep. So it's not I don't like when people don't take it seriously because maybe they're not worried, but they don't know what other people have, if they're looking after a parent, grandparents, if they have kids. It's like, that's my biggest fear with this too, is that people don't take it seriously because they don't think it applies

to them, but their actions apply everybody, correct exactly. That's such a good point. That's such a good point. It's like people don't realize that their actions could be affecting other people. Just because it doesn't affect them directly doesn't mean that they aren't mean putting other people in danger. You know what else meant? He's the other thing I

was I was thinking about. That was really you know, the saddest thing about all of this the idea that if someone does become terminally ill from this, their family members can't go visit them while they're on their way out. They can't just go to the hospital and be bedside. They can't tell they love them the same way. They can't make that contact, you know, so asential they're just they're dying with strangers. Yeah, there's stories on the new

boat nurses comforting. The saddest thing that is the saddest part about Yeah, well, Hannah, thanks for joining us. Can't wait to see your face again soon. Glad you're doing well. Best wishes to you and your family and we miss you, girl, but glad you're doing better. Of course, to care from you guys and stay safe and help for you to We're gonna have Okay, this is gonna be fun because Ryan is a nervous wreck at the best of times. The world could be operating in the best case scenario

and Ryan would be nervous anyway. So I'm excited to hear how Ryan is doing at this time. So Eastern can we get Ryan on. I am here, Bryan, I am here. It's good to hear your voice again, man. I wi I could say the same for your voice crying. What's your what's your stress level and anxiety level? I am losing my absolute mind, are you. I'm gonna tell you what. I'll tell you what. I take some solace in during these dark times. And that is months ago.

You told the doctor that we had on that you eat so clean and because of your clean diet, you are so so regular and you take six or seven poops a day. Now, I as as we go through this toilet paper shortage, I think to myself, you know who's screwed. I guess that backfire. Now, how are you doing with the toilet Brooks? I was literally just talking to Hon about I went to Costco the other day and I got a thirty roll pack. I am all set, man. I got one for my neighbors, my seven year old neighbors.

I got a thirty roll pack for them. They're all set, brought that, no worries at all. So you're the one buying up all the toilet paper. Huh, No, you can only take one. You can only take They only allow you one thing, one package per membership. Yeah, we'll back into the third day. So that'll get you, That'll get you through the next forty eight hours. But what are you gonna do from there? In this in this black swan event that is your biggest, uh biggest, that's consuming

your thought the motion. I appreciate your concern. Yeah, I'll tell you the difference between you and me. You went and I got toilet paper. I had five handles of Tito's delivered to me yesterday. That's where I am in life of yes. Yes, are you getting with two kids under the age of two at home right now? Uh? It is very challenging, It's it is. Uh yeah, I mean, look, we're all everybody in this this boat with kids where you're trying to work and do all these zooms, which

is a whole new phenomenon for me. Uh and my two and a half year old refused to allow me to be in any room of the house to get any quote unquote work done whatsoever. So, uh yeah, that's that's the new normal. I guess. So you you continue to So you guys have found a way to do zoom calls over whatever to keep keep working. We have. Yeah, I'm gonna give you an interesting little tidbit here because

that's what I'm good for. I read an article the other day the CEO of Walmart said that shirt sales are up astronomically on at Walmart, and pants sales are down astronomically on Walmart. Nobody's buying pants anymore because in the zoom culture, all you need is a waste up. It's pretty pretty uh pretty interesting, dude. Yeah, I know what you mean, because we did that. Two of my best friends were supposed to get married March twenty two or March twenty one, whatever it was, and they obviously

had to postpone their wedding. It was supposed to be in Mexico. They had to postpone their wedding. So a group of that, I think there was sixteen of us different friends, created a zoom uh call we call all got on the call and then called them, and so there were sixteen different screens of people up and we all had on our attire that we were going to wear to their wedding that day. And I just had shorts on, like a suit and tie on um above and I stood up and I just had shorts undneth.

They just started laughing. So I get it. You dress up fancy for then, Yeah, it's business up top and party down below. Man. So in your world, what's what's a daily like? Walk us through a normal day view right now? Ryan, when you ask about my stress and anxiety level, Uh, what I've found myself doing is I'm consuming so much news, just trying to stay ahead of

where everything is going with this whole pandemic. And I'll lay there in bed and I'll feel a little partickle in my throat, for instance, and I'll say, oh my god, this is it, this is the beginning. It's like now I'll try to take a deep breath and I'll feel like that was Was that a normal breath? It seemed a little bit shorter than a normal breath, did it not? And now I'm done this whole road of like I'm I give myself about two weeks. There's no more ventilators.

I'm dead, and I can like it's a psycho somatic thing where I feel anything slightly abnormal, and I believe that this is the first symptom in the beginning of the end form it. Absolutely every time the A C goes off in my house, I think I have a fever. This is this is why I love you, man. I know that that's true, and and I support you and I want to be here for you. But you are also very much a worry word. You You very much are, buddy. You like, do you when you ask yourself truthfully, do

you think you have it? Do you? Um is, does your brain go, oh, no, you're just acting crazy Ryan, Or do you actually like believe that you have it? When this these kinds of events happen, I more often than not, recently I'm telling myself I'm crazy, But I'm kind of telling myself that to make myself settled down. But like, I have colleagues that have been diagnosed with it, So then I'm doing the math on how long has it been since I was with them? All that stuff?

But we my my wife and I and our two kids legitimately have not left house to go even to the grocery store or anything for close to three weeks now. We've been able fortunately to get every get just like the vast majority of the stuff delivered to us, and we had a ton of food anyway, So we've legitimately just stayed with one another and not had any contact with anybody. Yeah, good question. Have you have you been looking at any uh, furniture sites online, redecoration online, being

out of boredom. Just been like, I'm so done with debt, couch, I'm so sick of that dishwasher. I need a new counter. Are you guys looking around your home seeing things that you want to change? No, I'm more I'm on Amazon, like I ordered a new hose earlier today I ordered zang close and is just to be proactive. I ordered apple cider vinegar capsule, Sperelena cap Are you like everything? Are you like me when you go online looking for

a hose? Are you actually looking at hose or looking at something you can use as a gas siphon if need be. I guess we're a case of nerd ropes. Okay, That's where I am in life. YouTube polar opposites like Gav I think is like I think you are super prepared. Um, Ryan, You're like you're one end of the spectrum. You're gonna

order everything, let's pre let's prep for this. You're gonna be stocked up, You're gonna be You're gonna spear Lena tablets, everything, You're gonna research it, You're gonna and I think the other end of the spectrum is gav Who's just like, I don't have anything. I'm just gonna I think I'm just gonna stay away from people. I'll be okay. I think you guys are And also I think gave confined. Are you're finding any enjoyment at all in like this

kind of time? Ryan, is there something that that in your life that's actually been more enjoyable that's different from the day to day grind that we usually have, like maybe spending more time, uh, you know, And I feel like I'm very lucky to have my dad who look after and and I am more appreciative probably now then I've ever been that I know how to play an instrument because when you're board, um, it's a great way to burn some time, you know what I mean, and

get creative. Um. So it's it's it's nice to be able to find find a little diversions, uh, and that type of thing. And I've also, you know, really grown to appreciate much more even the having good neighbors. You know, like a good neighbor, it goes a long way. Right now, what about you, Ryan, So we'll get Devin. Have you thought of any new renditions of the national anthem during this time or no, yes, I have this one. I start this one based down on the ice, so I

can only go up from there. Um uh Brooks. To answer your question, the answer, the answer is yes, like tearfully. I've been taking my two and a half year old son, like from seven thirty till nine thirty, just the two of us pretty much every morning, and we'll go out into the front yard and like play baseball, soccer, like ride the ride his scooter, all that stuff, which uh, in a normal work week we just don't have the time to do. So I think that has brought brought

us a lot closer together. I will say I think of the two of you a lot, uh not in a good way, which is like I did not have kids, if you if you don't have kids. During this whole thing, like my wife and I were talking about, it was like this would be a dream in many ways, like we you don't really have to socialize with people. You can just stay at home, watch Netflix, hang out, eat food like go to sleep, like just chill. There's no commitments that you have to do outside of the house.

It's a dream, but you guys are living there. I got to the end of Netflix already Ryan, and then the last box says, your life sucks, it's not a movie. Um, well, Ryan, we appreciate you jumping on, brother, and um, I don't know when was the last time we've seen you in studio. It's been like six months many Honestly, Ryan takes the time coming back. Really, I'm gonna talk, are you guys. I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you a quick quickly

little nuggets to leave on, which is somewhat genuine. There was a an analogy I heard the other day that I thought was pretty astute, which was comparing this to nine eleven and basically saying that, you know, like after not eleven, the entire nation came together and we as a community and as states all kind of keeled together through this. And you did that out in the public and restaurants and bars and and through talking to people outside of your own home, be like just hanging out.

And this is completely isolating. Obviously, we don't have the ability to like be in front of other people in bars and restaurants, are anywhere for that matter. So it's right driving me slightly insane as a result just being cooped up and going a little bit stire crazy, you know what I mean, I totally understand you know what I've been doing. Um, I don't know if you ride, but I I keep motorbikes and um just getting out of the house and getting on the road with the

bike and leaving the area. Don't have to talk to anybody, You get to kind of just go off, you know, and see she's a new you know, apocalyptic version of the United States. On a bike is actually a pretty pretty good way to find a little headroom bike. Great, yeah, Ryan, quick questions. Talk to you guys. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, man, you too. How many times a day do you call your doctor? Uh? Yeah, it's a little bit of a problem. I didn't see a pandemic coming when I was blacklisted

by the entire medical community. So I'm on my own here. I'm really on my own. You just on web MD all day long, just like buddy. That's that is. It's a tough year, in a tough spot. That that stunt you pulled a couple of years ago put you in a tough spot for this event. Yeah, buddy, your face, your wife and your kids are well, stay stay well, my man. Um, thanks for jumping on with us and we'll see you soon. Buddy. Good right Brooks. Brooks keep posting all those videos of your dog. I can't get

enough of them. Really today it was awesome. We were just gone. I find to see another instant story of like fifty seven thumbnails of Coda eating a skull again. I'm gonna lose it. Goodbye. I love you, Throw me all you want, Buddy. There see Bunny. I love Brian. He's so good. He is he he makes me laugh, gaf you make me laugh. Dry It's amazing. What's that?

He's so dry? It's amazing. Oh I know, and just his uh that story he told before about when he got what he did with the medical community and now how it's just backfiring. Oh yeah, Eastern Eastern. Next, we're gonna get on our brother Dmitri, who has four kids at home. He imagine having four kids, wife and four kids and being quarantined to your own home. Utrio, what's up, fellas? How are you? We're live man? How are you doing.

I'm good. I'm good. I'm thrilled to get on this call because this way I could tell the kids not to bother me for a few minutes. How are you doing, buddy. You have four kids. What are the age of your kids? Again? Ten, eight, six, and three. Although my son, my son's turned in seven this week, so we're gonna have one of those quarantine birthday parties. Okay, man, give us the truth. Brother. How are you holding up? I hope everybody first, I hope

everybody is healthy and safe. But how are you holding up? What's what's life like around your guys home right now? Uh? You know it comes in Vaine. It's uh sometimes just I mean I'll say this, let me start. Everyone and everyone is healthy, so that's good. I'm prappy for that, and we're doing what we need to do. Um, but you know, it gets chaotic. It gets chaotic in here and um there are times, you know, you get through

the day and then get to that point. I feel a lot of people are talking about drinking and stuff like that. I definitely, uh, definitely have some drinks at night that are needed. Um. The kids are hanging in there, many they're doing well. I think it's uh. I think I think it's tough. I think it's tough. Did they understand I'll say this, it's funny because I watch a lot of news and stuff like that, and I don't side it on them, and so I answer questions for him,

So I think they know what's going on. UM, But I talked to him, and I feel like that kind of helps because they're not just hearing things and they're like kind of process it on their own. Yeah. So, UM, it's tough, though it's tough that I mean obviously the younger one, a three year old, I don't I don't tell her much about anything, so she just thinks we're

all home. So right, what's been one part of of the social distancing, self quarantining UM aspect that you've really found enjoyable something that you wouldn't have otherwise done in the standard ordinary day to day life, working, going to where, coming home. What's something that's maybe you've done personally or more family time, or something that that's been a blessing

in this time for you. I'll say this life. And I think I mentioned this in the past, and I felt like I was being stretched into a bunch of different directions. So I've actually had the chance to kind of slow down. We're not I'm not racing the school, I'm not racing a soccer practice, and we're home and we're spending time when we're playing games, So life itself

has been forced to slow down. So I'm appreciative of that because, um, even though i may not be sleeping, we're you know, I'm getting I'm getting quality time with the family and when I'm not running here and there and just trying to make it to all these different things. So so that's that's been a blessing. Um, I get invited to more parties, you know, more FaceTime parties that I do regular parties. So that's co col. What's been

the hardnest part for you guys, Dmitri, What's that? What's been the hardest part something that's been really difficult for you guys during this time? Maybe just like kids to my kids or yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's exactly that I think you got. I have to keep things in perspective, like things that would annoy me. I get questions from the kids NonStop, just questions that they wouldn't have to ask. I don't have to ask all. I like, if we get through this phone call, that

someone walking in here asking me. But I was trying. I just try and keep in mind this that they're probably asking questions because obviously they're bored and they're there and they just want to interact. So the hardest part for me has been I'm not wanting to really lose my temper, you know, but to not be like guys

wing alone or strut up or right. I was talking to another friend of mine who has two kids, and she said, um, she she loves physical contact with because I am dying for a moment when one kid is not crawling on me. She was all times, and I'm over and this is like two weeks ago. Even I don't I don't sleep well, I don't take naps. I fell asleep on the living room Florida the other day. It's taken a nap and one of my daughters just walked over and gave me a hard well, woke me up.

Normally that's fantastic, but I was like, holy crap. So one time I fell asleep, you had to give me a huge twenty three hours a day on the rate do that. How's the homeschooling going. It's good, it's good. There are I set up some computers in the dining room. It looks like a like a tell us on um, but there are stay right now for two weeks, which you think would be good, but now we've got extra hours in a day to figure out what to do.

So that's been something um I built. They asked me to build a port in the in the playroom, so I was like, all right, I'm the build you this epic court. I'm like, I'm gonna hang blankets and the whole thing. And then of course I realized I can only use what I had, so I got a little short. I got short of supply, so I text my body around the corner and I said, hey, do you have any rope? And he wrote back to me, this is the most terrifying text I've ever gotten. And I don't

contact time. Oh man, I shouldn't laugh at that, but you make me laugh. I think you have to laugh at stuff. You have to just last in the world. I agree. I think there's I even think about, like dreaming. I think about people. I don't want people to think that the world has just stopped, and that our dreams and everything have just stopped or been put on pause. I think it's super important to laugh. I think it's

super important to sing. Like gav Um, you say you have the ability to play an instrument and have an outlet still an artistic expression like UM. Also the ability to dream like I'm thinking about things that I still want to do. I'm not just pausing everything I think, UM. Mindset has to continue on and the things that bring us joy or maybe as important now as they ever are. UM. So I don't want to make light of that. I agree with man, No, it's interesting. It's a good point.

And you know, I've been thinking about this too, just because you know, I don't want to stop doing what I love to do. I don't want to um ignore what's happening UM. And I still want to keep moving forward with what I've been doing, like creatively playing music, writing songs and things like that. But it's been a little weird because I've hit this weird place because of what's happened around us now, because of this moment in time where I'm wondering, well, is the music I was

writing for the next records? Is it important enough? Now? You know? Are the is that material important enough? Uh? You know? Am I writing songs that are socially conscious enough for this moment in time or for the moment of time that comes after this? You know? And so it's starting to sort of play on my mind of how is the material I've been working on? Is the art I've been creating? Is my messaging important enough? Am

I capturing enough of this snapshot in time? Or or should I be making material that has nothing to do with this moment in time that just has to do with encouraging people for what comes after this? Um So it's really been interesting from a creative standpoint as a as a writer, a songwriter, of you know, am I doing enough? Is what I have done? Is it uh meaningful enough for this uh new version of potentially of of outlook that people are going to have having gone

through absolutely odd uh time? Well, whatever you do, Gav, don't remove the duet that we have no man, not a chance. You're kidding me. It's called slapshot. You know. It's interesting that you both said that, because I don't know if it's because things are so crazy here or see. I'm from New York, so I watched the news a lot, and I see what's going on there, and I have friends and family there, so I get here a lot, and then with all the kids here, I think I

live more in the minute to minute. I try and make things good and have fun and and I'll jump on in the evening and maybe FaceTime with a buddy and have a drink or something. But I'm doing the opposite of what I think, Brooks. Is what you're saying, is it. I'm kind of living in the moment and not able to you know, think. Obviously, I think about the future, and I know that that's coming at it, but I live more minutes a minute. I think, and like, make this a minute good, make them and and kind

of get through that. And I know other people are like, oh, I'm seeing out by garage and I'm doing with this and I'm doing and it's like I struggle a little bit um creatively and motivationally to do stuff like that, because I'm just trying to get you know, I got a lot going on every minute of the day. So I think I'm just living minutes a minute. So that's the interesting thought to think about. Um. I get what

you're saying, buddy. I've I've put some I don't have four kids, Um have a dog that consumes a little bit of time, but don't have four kids that I need to give to every day. Um. But one thing that I've done. Focusing on during this time is pride of work in anything I do. Um, because because some things you can skip over, because in the course of a day, you're busy and you want to get this and do that, like you know, months ago when when

the world was normal. But even something as simple as like making the bad like, I'll take extra time and as you said, be more present just to like really make them funny. Just you know what. I totally get it. I totally get it. You're just looking for something to be good at a task, something to take your mind off of anything else. And just what a time. It's just so crazy everything, every single thing. The other day, I actually, uh, I contemplated cooking and egg How long

the contemplation. It took a few hours, I thought, And then I decided just to uh, put water in a bowl and throw a snack bar in and heat it up in the microwave because I hate to cook. Eggs are a hot commodity. For a couple of weeks ago, they said, they said for holding everybody to a dozen. At one dozen eggs, I said, I can put people in my house. That's one breakfast. Um, when this whole

thing blows over, tell me. If you're open for an experiment, we come and we put Gavi in your house and Gavin does your daily duties as a fog for one day. I'll have your kids smoking cigars and cursing at you, but you compet. I'm open to the experiment. I'd love to see that you walk in the house like, oh, Dad, pull up a chair. I would I would pay good money to watch that gav Afid, Buddy, you'd be fantastic. I don't have to write a song, don't do it.

Thanks for coming on with us, buddy. I miss your face. Hopefully we'll be able to do this in studio again soon. Um. Best to you and your family, buddy. I know you're taking care of them, but I hope everybody stays healthy and stay safe. Thanks man. I'd like to say one more thing. But I was young, I used to go to the zoo and I used to look at the animals and I was like, what are they doing? Why are they laying around? Get up and do something? Man.

I respect it, how I get it. Someone was looking at my house now and they were like, get up or do something. I feel like, oh, I don't wait. Speaking of the zoo and animals. You had to have watched Tiger King already. Have you watched it? I have, and you know what I heard? It was so good. I think it is a quarantine good. If I wasn't quarantining about that, I'd be like, oh, man, I don't think TV has ever seen a character ever like Joe exotic. Um. Okay, buddy,

appreciate you jumping on. Thanks man. We'll talk soon. All right, we go one more, one more member of the how Men Think crew. We're gonna touch base with my man Rick. Rick. Where are you? I am at home? Of course? How are you guys? Doing good? Buddy, good man? How are you? I'm good, I'm good. Hanging in there. Yeah, we're all hanging in there because you're good. You're hanging in there, or you're dying and you're hanging in there. It's what I mean writing. I'm like, what what are the best

and the worst hours of the day? The best hours of the day for me during this shelter and play In the morning, I wake up, I am got the coffee going, I'm out with the dog and my daughter on a nice like a mile or two walk in the mornings like seven thirty eight o'clock and just really kind of spawning time with her, which is awesome. So um, those are my favorite time. My worst least favorite times are like mid day, you know, like now two to four,

I was like, who somebody wants to talk to? Somebody wants to talk to Yeah cool, okay, Like I love it. I have friends still wow, But like those kind of you're also kind of downtime where you know, you feel like you want to take a nap, but you feel like you should be exercising or doing something. When you know an actuality, it's you can be doing both, you know, so very very interesting time. Yeah, I feel like get the virus then get made the boredom will Yes, exactly,

It's so true. Um, Like, you know, we try, my wife and I try to set up like these rules not rules, but like okay, let's clean the house today, or let's clean the kitchen. And I'm like, well, let's instead of trying to commit to like a whole day of one entire process like the cleaning of the house, let's break it up that way. It's like it's not so much of a job on us, or or it's it's just easier to kind of you know, oh I just did two bathrooms or hey, I'm doing the kitchen today. Okay, cool.

Then it's like it just makes it more manageable. Yeah, how's the home school and going? How are the kids doing? Uh? You know Brooks like, I feel very fortunate in all of this right now, Like the kids are at a perfect age their thirteen and eleven. Um, they're the homeschooling side of it's it's been pretty tricky. Um, the teachers in the school district, you're putting out you know, videos, they have video tap meetings, they have Google hangout meetings. Um,

they're really involved in a lot of it. But on the other hand, it's like they're you know, if they do all their stuff for all their meetings or their homework or or reading, they're done by you know, one one o'clock one thirty, right, So then it's okay, now what do I do? And that's why I feel fortunate. Our kids are at the age where they can kind of go on their own, Like my sundle go out and he'll ride his bike around for an hour, come back, play video games. You know, they're they can sort of

quarantine themselves within our quarantined home, which is really nice. UM. The homeschooling, it's been kind of tricky too because like last Friday, I think it was UM like there's sort of website thing like all shut down, like it broke or something, you know, there was a glitch or something, and so really there was no way to check on the on the homework assignment. So it's it's been tricky. But I do have to give credit to the district. They're working their tails off right now, and it's uh,

I appreciate that and I'm thankful for them. Still so good. How about you, what's your daily like are you still working to right now? Yeah? Not as much. I mean I'm I'm at home. Our office or our warehouse UM is operating like we have a small crew kind of going in and out. We have like a we're like an industrial warehouse section where we do like dismantling computers and stuff. So we have a small crew going in

out and if there's pickups. But I work with main mainly the tech companies, and so they're all working from home and so there's really not a lot going on UM. To be honest, we had a couple of pickups and a couple a couple of interactions and meetings and stuff like that. But other than that, it's it's been pretty slow, dude. It's it's just tough, you know, so um but you know, and my wife works as well, she's in real estate,

and that's that's actually still going. But I think I got to see a drop here in the next month or two, so we'll see. Yeah. But yeah, right, well, we miss you, buddy, We miss your face and you guys. I miss you guys, man. I miss sitting around like that's the one thing, you know, I was I was

been thinking about during this whole quarantine. It's just I'm so thankful for so much like you, you kind of take for granted what you do on a daily basis, whether it's driving to the store, driving to the restaurant, you know, going to a bar with your buddies. You're just all that sort of social interactions. Um, you know, you lose a lot of that stuff on the on the flip side though, So you know, I'm thankful that

i'd actually get a lot with my family. You know, it's like you have a running but like it's been quality family time and you know, I don't care. You know, you look back on that and I'm like, I don't. I don't do this. I don't, don't you know when my daughter all the time and go on walks and I need to do more of that. And it's uh, you know, for being locked in with each other, it's it's been pretty good. It's been good. So that's awesome. Yeah, good for you man. They did. Now they need to

find a curious that we can all get out again. Yeah, there's not gonna be a vaccine for twelve to eighteen months, like they think it might be up till August next year before they find an actual vaccine for it. Yeah, that's what I'm that's what I'm hearing. It's a you know, hopefully they can find you know, some testing ways, which I think you're working on obviously, and and you don't get the vaccine going you know, who knows. We'll see, but yeah, it's it's a wild time. Um yeah, how

are you getting funny? We're good, We're um. Gaves Rock Roland. He's playing country music for everybody in Nashville. He's blasting his speakers as loud as he can and entertaining the town that I'm playing to the empty streets. It's like the start of day, Gavin, you go to the where he's there, You're still playing. You know what we're actually doing. Um, Gavin and I are really working hard on our duet,

like we've been faith timing and just perfecting it. Um. I've been helping him out with vocals a little bit, like getting the more range, the kind of range that I have, all that kind of stuff. So yeah, true, And I've been showing him how to skate backwards. That's good. I'll get it. I'll get it. One of the You've got one of the cows on your back, looking forward and staring at your phone as you're skating backwards. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know either.

I haven't I haven't hit that part of the internet yet. Yeah. Um, but you and the family are well and safe. Um, and I can't wait to see and sometime soon, buddy. Yeah. Likewise, Blaquise, I hope he doesn't well. Yeah, man, great to hear from me. Yeah likewise likewise yeah yeah, yeah, for the real now for the real treat, gav Oh producer our producer, Amy Sugarman, welcome, save the best for laugh Fellas Sugerman say,

I would say the best slash most neurotic. For last, I cannot wait to hear all that you've done for during this quarantine time. Hopefully I don't disappoint you. I mean, I feel pretty proud of myself that I'm not being you know, I feel like I'm handling it fairly well. But I'll go into the details. But first, obviously, I want to say that I'm going to tell you every thing I'm doing, even though really my concern and prayers are with all the people that are suffering or lost

their jobs or anything like that. But just to entertain you, Brooks, I am willing to tell you the weird I'm doing. Yes, please, because like you ordered a ten pound bag of rice there a month ago. So I did do a few things when I started. You know, I'm like a I'm one of those threaks that's always kind of like seeing what's happening on the internet and what are people doing. And I watched I always have watched like a lot

of news. I would say probably the worst thing I'm doing is I watched probably ten hours of CNN a day, which is probably bad. Like like when when Chris Cuomo said he had it, it was like a very close cousin telling me they had it like I actually like made a like a noise, like like a family member had, and I have been following him. So I feel very bonded to everyone on CNN right now. But I would say the one thing that I'm probably overdoing is washing my hands. Not that you could do that, but my

hands are like bleeding. My knuckles are kind of bleeding, and like there's that like every time I touch a door handle, I keep feeling like I need to wash my hands, even though my mom. I'm up in the day area and my mom is here and she lives like two doors down. I'm very similar to Gavitt. I don't know if he told you guys that he lives

very close to his dad. So my mom, he's saying to me, like, you're you're the only one touching the door handles, so like you don't need to, Like I feel like I'm contaminating myself sometimes, but I'm trying to be calm. I would say the other thing that I have really let go is my hair. I maybe we'll try and take a picture for you guys, because you know I get my hair colored every week. Okay, So my hair is gray. Oh, I have one other good one.

So my boyfriend was here chill. He had been coming over. But now we're doing three weeks apart because they said these are the two the next two ish weeks, you really need to like lock it down. So we're doing three weeks apart. So I did his laundry and I put his like sweats and shirt and sweatshirt. But he left a pair of socks. So I will admit I've been sleeping with the socks, like on the pillow next to you, or you know, like on the hello next

to me. There's nothing wrong with that, Brooks will talk later. I'm try to think. I mean, other than that, I just do like a lot of whiting and like I'm not hoarding. I want everyone to know, like I'm I'm like really good about that. I'm not doing any of that weird stuff. Like I definitely have food for the next two weeks. I don't have to go to the store. Um oh, I know what I did too. By a miracle, I had some Nords from Bucks. Do you know what

that is? So it's like when you shop at Nordstrom, when you shop at a certain amount, you get like three Nords from money when you use your Nords from card. So I did have some Nords from Bucks saved up, so I am shopping like that makes me feel kind of good. So I shop at Nordstrom and use my Nords from Bucks like I've been doing. I'm pretty good. I mean I do fifteen feet of distance. I will say that I do fifteen feet of distance, and I did feel bad. I was in the grocery store and

I asked a woman some more distance. I was like, could I have some more distance? And then let me ask you a questions, Amy questions. If you're in an elevator and the door opens and someone wants to get in, what do you do? Well, I don't. I haven't been in an elevator since October of twenty eighteen. Yes, in an elevator. If if you were a normal person and you were in an elevator right now and the door open and someone wants to get in, what would you do? I don't think I would do it. I don't what

did your building have an elevator? What are you doing from the front of it and say I'll send it back. Yeah, I would probably do the same, And mostly the reason would be because I want to keep my mom safe and you want to keep your dad safe, and we're like,

who they have could take care of them? So I agree, and I think that anyone would be totally understanding, Like when I asked the lady at the grocery store for more distance because we were in the check outline the grocery By the way, I don't know if anyone has done this, but like, can we give a shout out to the people at the grocery store? And like the CDs, I think about that all the time, like because I don't like going the grocery store right now, and I'm

only there with like what like thirty people. They have to be there all day with all the people, so I just think those people. I mean, obviously doctor's, nurses, police, fire all of it, but those grocery store people and the people driving the trucks and like the people delivering my packages. It's like, God bless, I am quarantining my packages, which I'm waiting for some expert to tell me to stop doing that, but I keep them for like a day or two outside. I got a question, are they giving? Uh?

Has anyone decided to give grocery store workers pharmacy workers. Are they giving them hazard ta yet at least for the interim? I mean, let's hope. I don't know, Like I don't know, and I think that they be rageous for that to happen, you know what I mean, because they think that. I think the insta cart people were asking for stuff too. Um yeah, because like those people are really saving everyone else by going and doing the shopping and delivering the packages. I am getting in a

crazy amount of packages. It's not gonna lie how many because m cannaday, No, that sounds excessive, But that's not only my fault because I did order like some some canned goods from Target, but the Target is shipping them quickly and separately, so it's not totally my fault. I'm not being like super nuts with the packages. And like I got lucky and something I wanted I found on the internet and I only got one. So I feel like we all really need to help each other out.

My mom is going to try and color my hair next week, though, so that is going to be that's gonna be something amy. I might try and give myself a mohawk. A lot of people are a lot of guys are shaving their heads. I've seen that a lot, but I'm not just doing it, mohawk. Has anyone asked you how long that beard is gonna go? I'm not a I'm percent on that beard, Brooks. It's like freaking me out a little. Um it's I don't know, I'm it's the longest I've ever had the beard in my life. Yeah.

Somedays I'm like, I'm gonna shave it. The other days like, I don't give a damn. I'm up here in the woods in Idaho. I spend all day in the woods with my dog. Why does it matter if I have a beard or I don't have a beard? Um? Well, if you could grow in the beard a little longer and wear the right clothes, send the picture of us dressed like a gnome under yard. Like my hair, someone told me my hair was looking like Crystal Gale. Do you guys know who Crystal Gale is? No? Oh, yeah,

I remember Crystal when I was like five. Yeah, she's really cute. But she has a really really long hair, and my hair probably needs to cut. My mom may try that too, but lord knows, you don't know. I know you were talking about music. I say, make the music. Have you heard Thomas Rescue song? No, listen to it. It's so good and it's like you got a year ago, but it's perfect for right now. So I say, like, make your songs. Oh wait, can we talk about your

Kenny Roger special? That's up to you. I want to talk about it, so okay, I will say that was so sad that we lost Kenny Rogers, and I feel like it got a little lost in all this, which I'm sure everybody understands. But what saw Kenny Rogers passed away? And there's a tribute on the eighth on CMT, and I'm sure it's like everyone's being from their living room and you're on it. What song are you doing? Oh? I don't know if I'm allowed to me? Can you give us a hint? The surprise to surprise? But it

is one of my favorite songs of all time. Um oh, going tell I love the Dreamer? Don't fall in love with a dreamer? Nope, I can't tell you. Everybody. Everybody needs to watch the MT on the eight you're saying again, thank you. If it's going to be a big one, it's gonna be a big one. Dally Pardons on it, Uh Lady Annabellum's on it. Uh man, there's just there's just a there's a kind of act. That's kind of act. I hope someone sings islands in the stream. Maybe you're

singing through the years. I also love through the years. No good. I wish you would give a hint, but we'll have to wait until what day will that be? Wednesday? Let's see Wednesday on. I love you guys as your face I missed coming into heart. I'll send you, guys a picture of my gray. It's really pretty. Uh send it in Rogers gray. Yes, like it's totally great. I'll send a picture that, and I'll send a picture of

my guy's socks so everybody can see what. I want you to send a picture of Kenny Rodgers and then of your gray. We can we who wore better? Who wore it better? Um post a photo of you with laying in bed at the socks on your pillow. Well, we can post the socks, but move me. I'm sending the socks to Danielle right now. They're like super clean clean them there the yeah, and we got an indoor

putting green. So I have been I and I that that's like was a splurge, and I'm I don't want to seem like, oh, I'm just lulling everything on the internet. But I did buy an indoor putting green and uh so we practice our putting. He said. When I missed him to just hit some cuts. I was like, okay, there you go. Um, but he can't break up with me until after all. This so good. We're good for a bit, guys, We're good for a bit. This goes on for a long and long and long. I actually

I actually thought about that, but I'm not like. I wanted to be over as quickly as we can and get some good treatments going so we can help everybody that needs the help. Yeah, maybe for Christmas, can you have an ugly Christmas winter made? Usually his socks. Wait till you guys see the socks. I hope that's it's gonna be a good one. Um. I love you. Everybody. Be safe, stay stay stay at home, wash your hands, stay at home, stay indoors door. You can go for a walk. You can go for a walk, you can

go for a walking. Okay, stay safe. Let's stay or stay active and stay safe. Either way, Um, Amy, look, you miss you have. I appreciate your time today, miss you as well. But this whole thing, um and everybody else out there, we just say that just sending our love to you guys. Thank you guys for listening, and more than ever, take care of one another, love one another, and we'll see you back here next week for another episode of How Men Think