Gert Jonkers is the editor of Fantastic Man, and co-founder of The Gentlewoman, and Butt. We chat about hitting the premiere for FX’s The Bear, new Beyoncë dropped, pagan rituals in The Netherlands, Americans are loud, how we all think an EIC should be dressing, in defense of tank tops, its okay that LA is so casual, the lifespan of a magazine cover, not diluting the brand, his journalistic rules for interviewing someone, we’re fine with media training as long as its great, sync talk but for mag...
Jun 22, 2022•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 359
Perry Farrell is a lifelong musician most notably from Jane’s Addiction, Porno For Pyro’s, and the founder of Lollapalooza. We chat about the new Drake album, Chris is on holiday in Palm Springs, TJ went to Benny Blanco’s for dinner, getting a nice tomahawk for father’s day, sleeping pills, set up a garden on the roof, we brainstorm ideas for his funky man cave, Perry has a Christmas tree in his living room so he can have a place to put all his wife’s packages, he doesn’t strike us as a “dairy” ...
Jun 20, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Ep. 358
Bob Lefsetz is a music-biz veteran and the undisputed king of email newsletters. We chat about Joe Budden mispronouncing the word “ableist,” we got Biologique facials, building a fanbase the old-fashioned way, the benefits of being a one-man-band, starting his newsletter in 1986 as snail mail, when Politics and streaming TV replaced music, Chris and Bob argue about whether or not to call people on the phone, MTV was his vibe shift, big muckety-mucks, if the money is right and you hate your famil...
Jun 18, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 357
Kurt Vile is a musician from Philadelphia, his new record Watch My Moves is out now. We chat about beard without the mustache, the yassification of Nascar, the Barbie movie, Hollywood Handbook being mean to Kurt, when it comes to airplane food you can do a lot worse than almonds, being a real analog guy, how to be grateful but also not care about anyone, a Zoom studio session with pop music’s Kesha, he loves Charli XCX and got into her because a guy from Negative Approach does too, they play Mic...
Jun 17, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 356
Julia Hobbs is a fashion editor from London. We chat about Chris seeing the guy from Alkaline Trio at the gym, a simmering cauldron, do we give Lizzo a pass? London is a great driving town, Julia loves Oxnard, CA, Majorcan hotel buffets, what to wear in Ibiza, hiring a car vs. renting one, killing bugs with your Top Shop shoes, where we’ll take her out in LA, when a car sounds like a horse, famous musicians from Cornwall, who she’s wearing for today’s recording, kick-flair pants are trending, wh...
Jun 15, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 355
One-on-one pod recorded live and uncut from New York City just hours before our show at Tribeca Festival. We chat about when we used to like being hungover, a Manhattan walk of shame, making a res at Sadelle’s 6 months in advance, the harvest will be harmed, Equinox scene report in NY, Puma ankle socks, hitting BJ Novak’s afterparty, explosive walking, a dinner in LA with Andy Baraghani, and TJ has a special run in on his flight to JFK. twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans Learn more ab...
Jun 13, 2022•57 min•Ep. 354
Alexander Shulan runs the fine art gallery LOMEX in New York City. We chat about Chris seeing a person shower with a mask on, The Chrisley’s caught a case, what we think a bottom should be ordering on Uber Eats, the art business is notoriously dirty, people are trying to make actual art non-fungible, what factors go into pricing a work of art, questions you might ask someone to find out if they come from generational wealth, what makes a perfect gallery opening party, getting into some trouble d...
Jun 10, 2022•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 353
Otegha Uwagba is writer from London. Her newest book We Need To Talk About Money is a Sunday Times bestseller and an Observer book of the year. We chat about TJ’s Ionpack DJ set, computers and phones don’t work in Florida, writers have unemployed vibes, Dixie Cups are racist, Chris has a tough time keeping his towel on, an article about how writers shouldn’t talk, women’s shoe sizes oscillate wildly, petty British gossip, rappers getting plastic surgery, fancying The Rock, getting verified on wi...
Jun 08, 2022•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 352
We talk about our elaborate Pride plans, Chris hates Lyft, buffalo cauliflower hangover, Chris made me feel like I was on Hulu’s Fire Island, Balenciaga plain lays, Bitchin’ Sauce, candles that smell like the female orgasm, Gwen and Kourt’s noses have been broken so many times they have superhuman smelling, they know Chris down at Spencer Gifts, talking Top Gun with Bret Ellis, performative crying and performative thrifting, its time to put DaBaby back on Levitating, old head talk, Chris hates t...
Jun 06, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 351
Andy Baraghani is a chef from the Bay Area, currently living in New York. His new book The Cook You Want To Be is out now. We chat about the Marines Pride campaign, our show at Tribeca Film Festival, chain-smoking Parliaments in a dark corner, reorganizing the furniture in hotel rooms, never show how much the champagne costs, going on Good Morning America, Chris wanting an appliance-free kitchen, persimmons smell like cum, what's happening with Persian food, putting a little bonito flake on your...
Jun 03, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 350
Spoon is a band from Austin, Tx, their new album Lucifer On The Sofa is out now. We chat about taking big swings, TJ saw Top Gun: Maverick, getting high in parking structures, The Elden Ring is the Infinite Jest of gaming, the Ps5 is tough to find, TJ booked Spoon to play 15 years ago, Rick Rubin’s polar bear, if Matador is making them do Tik Toks, old music is getting more streams than new, Spoon has no syncs that they regret, how to stay awake while driving from Austin to LA in one straight sh...
Jun 01, 2022•51 min•Ep. 349
One-on-one episode recorded live and uncut from Glendale, Chris & Jason chat about insufferable digital nomads, eating at a chili parlour, crying while watching Dating On The Spectrum, insider trading is a victimless crime, in defense of nepotism, how to be a celebrity at dress normal, Lawry's Prime Rib, we do 30 minutes on a $700 omakase dinner at Nozawa Bar, the street art flash mobs of 2009's Friends With Benefits, it's very difficult to pull off a ribbed tank top successfully, and a soci...
May 30, 2022•1 hr 17 min•Ep. 248
Our friend and host of the podcast Are We On Air? had us on as a guest recently to talk about How Long Gone, and the music that shaped us growing up. It's a fun listen with tons of music so we decided to add it to the feed. Here's Arman's intro for the episode: Turn on, tune in, drop out! CHRIS BLACK and JASON STEWART join Arman for a little tête-à-tête that will feel like time is slipping like sand through an hourglass. Tuning in from the leafy suburbs of Glendale, the boys use their well-honed...
May 28, 2022•1 hr 47 min
Sloane Crosley is a writer living in New York. Her new book Cult Classic is out June 7th. We chat about the new Sky Ferreira, an update on TJ’s water fast, Sloane does not work out, Ana De Armas, getting her house broken into, her crypto investments, Criterion dick, writing with ugly fonts as a litmus test, learning to play tennis on a slanted street, do fucked up people workout more, drinking martinis with Gay Talese, New York is great for walking, the pros, and cons of a Q&Ad and being hon...
May 27, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Ep. 347
Max Lakin is a writer from New York City. His work can be seen in NYT, Artforum, The New Yorker, and everywhere else. We chat about testing dirty for mayonnaise, TJ’s declaration of war with a local park’s groundskeepers, the anger issues of baseball guys, cops taking an extra Powerade at the bodega just to feel something real, Max’s thoughts on Balenciaga, Frank Ocean’s fit, when to lay on the floor, not going to Marfa, what Banksy might be up to, the graffiti pipeline, people focusing on the “...
May 25, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 346
One-on-one pod today, Chris zooms in straight from the Balenciaga show and TJ is still sweating out the mollywater from his successful festival DJ set. We chat about Chris somehow sleeping his entire flight, insights into the songwriting process, Jack Antonoff is music’s fentanyl, it’s the big apple's heatwave, NYSE scene report, Just Like Heaven Festival recap, a photo of TJ sound checking to an empty field becomes viral online, Goldenvoice using a logo pulled from the Outdoor Voices website fo...
May 23, 2022•1 hr 7 min•Ep. 345
Michael Sebastian is the Editor in Chief of Esquire Magazine. We chat about Rihanna’s water breaking, what we might do in that same situation, blue smoothies matter, where Hollywood’s fattest firefighters dine, what an EIC does and doesn’t do, moving to Jersey because of a house fire, Liam earning his right to dress casually in his older age, suit-wearing changes in your 40’s, Chris is exhausted by Martini culture, our theories on when you become set in your ways, peaking in high school, evergre...
May 20, 2022•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 344
Joe Mande is a comedian and writer living in Los Angeles. You’ve seen him on Parks & Rec, Modern Family, and most recently HBO’s Hacks. We chat about putting the paws on people, getting some "cut," the backstory on a friend's bespoke shirt, the food at San Vicente Bungalows, Cameo trying to recruit him, TJ ran into Maron at Whole Foods, the underground world of cops on Tik Tok, pissmaxing, working as a pharmacy delivery boy in high school, the various pieces of merch that Joe sells on his we...
May 18, 2022•1 hr 10 min•Ep. 343
One-on-one pod live and unedited from Glendale. Chris and Jason talk about our trip to Toronto, airplane whining, TJ teaches his flight attendant how to make a Bloody Mary, visiting Matty Matheson’s new restaurant, working out the tour life cobwebs, TJ taking mushrooms and DJing the afterparty, Canadian snowboarders teaching us about Japanese cuisine, tableside branzino sashimi, espresso martinis and asparagus, we got the lucid dream pills from Carsten’s pod, and we spend the last half of the po...
May 16, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 432
Carsten Höller is a German-born artist currently living in Stockholm. He’s known for years of amazing and interactive installations, and most recently his Brutalist-themed restaurant Brutalisten . He’s an amazing scientific mind who we had a blast talking to. We chat about our arrival in Toronto, Chris injuring himself on the assault bike, writing a book about playing games, why Americans talk too loudly, taking drugs to stimulate lucid dreaming, sometimes there is no egg to crack, his personal ...
May 13, 2022•1 hr 7 min•Ep. 341
Julia Cumming is a musician and model, her band Sunflower Bean’s new album Headful Of Sugar is out now. We chat about peanut butter vs. kale, the world is ending and all we wanna do is sit down at 10 pm for some fries, we’re off to Toronto, Thug and the rest of YSL got a RICO charge, playing a frat party at Dartmouth for an audience of zero, the video to visualizer vibe shift, Pitchfork gave Jack Harlow a 2.9, joining her first band at 13, going to dirtbag venues in Bushwick, her neighborhood in...
May 11, 2022•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 340
One-on-one pod recorded live and unedited from Glendale. Chris and Jason chat about our new merch for Toronto, DJ complaining, the guest list is open, you can’t choose your audience, Kentucky Derby scene report, Jack Harlow doesn’t want his shoes to get dirty, Die Antwoord aged poorly, Dave Chappelle brought his attacker on stage, TJ’s metaphorical ankles got broken at a ceramics activation, celebrating uncomfortable social interactions, enjoying soup as the main course is a female trait (even c...
May 09, 2022•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 339
Fivio Foreign is a rapper from New York. His new record B.I.B.L.E. is out now. We chat about podcasting on tired legs, a lads dinner at Mother Wolf, rap music at the fine dining restaurant, the pink drinks at Starbucks, frozen coffee pucks, friends and family of Fivio's unique investment opportunities, his diet and bloodwork, which muscles a drill rapper needs to focus on in the gym, his chick spends way too much money at Target, he doesn’t get to pick out the candles anymore, Fivio enjoys a bot...
May 06, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 338
One of our funnier guests in some time, John Vanderslice is an indie musician, producer, and captain of the infamous Tiny Telephone studios in San Francisco. We chat with him from his home in Los Angeles about the gilded failures of fashion’s biggest night, Kim K only ate tomatoes for 16 days but didn't eat on the carpet, why John escaped the Bay Area, covid fucking LA restaurants up, buying drugs on the Silk Road, Bitcoin is the new hundred dollar bill, ceremonial drug usage, edging doesn’t hav...
May 04, 2022•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 337
Instead of our one-on-one pod today, we’ve got an extended 30 minute solo Sunday chat and a interview with Interpol, a band from New York City that we all know and love. We chat with their frontman Paul Banks about flavorless water, a little something called authenticity, the absence of color, pushing through the paranoia, the new Future record, Paul’s rare and expensive Japanese boxing gloves, cardio and cigarettes, Paul’s a business class shawty, eating pasta on days off, they never played SNL...
May 02, 2022•1 hr 28 min•Ep. 336
Mattiel is a two-piece band from Atlanta. Their new album Georgia Gothic is out now on ATO Records. We chat about Chris showing up very late, Snail Mail at the Palladium, some of the perks of the Delta Diamond Medallion program, breaking the law, the gas company is a sham, the rise of the sexy south, Catherine Zeta-Jones, MailChimp, graphic design, bald kings building, tips on bringing stuff into Canada, more mystery methods, they meditation process, Brian Eno’s app, unemployment, and some good ...
Apr 29, 2022•51 min•Ep. 335
Chaz, aka Toro Y Moi, is a musician from South Carolina currently living in the Bay Area of California. We chat about our $80 coffee cupping, my flat ass, Harry’s Better Homes and Gardens cover, Taco Bell’s Mexican pizza, illegally downloading Chaz’s music, full nude toilet time, playing Coachella with Flume, all his fans are nice and sweet, his production software, remixes of live bands shouldn’t exist, who’s using who, sync talk, surviving indie sleaze, Chaz going to damn Sugarfish, doing Uffi...
Apr 27, 2022•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 334
One-on-one pod live and unedited from Glendale. Chris and Jason give a Coachella (week 2) recap, TJ’s pouchette, unlicensed energy drinks, Sprouts Market, Spiritualized, Anitta, Phoebe, and Harry, spending $400 on Red Bull and Vodka, bottomless 805's, photo pit drug dealers, Sephora dance music, Chris discovers Peggy Gou, Alexander Wang in VIP, TJ talking to losers, imperfect music of the 90s, what time celebs leave the festival, Sporty & Rich tennis activation, Kings vs. Ducks in the box, a...
Apr 25, 2022•1 hr 12 min•Ep. 333
Richard Jefferson is a former NBA Champion turned commentator. We chat with him from his home in Los Angeles about Chris’ big night out, Jason’s 420 menu, RJ’s landscaping and mulch tips, his proximity to the airport, why Chris doesn’t like Clear, The Hermosa Beach Ironman, raging with frat bros in Arizona, getting back into hoops to show his kids he’s still wetty, Space Jam trash, LeBron’s addiction to overpriced wine, the history of shorts inseams, being the little stinker of basketball commen...
Apr 22, 2022•1 hr 18 min•Ep. 332
Molly Lambert is a writer from Los Angeles. Her new podcast Heidiworld The Heidi Fleiss story and the secret history of LA is out now. We chat about Chris’ emails, hitting the flow state, Netflix’s Ultimatum, our 2022 Eurotrip, Chris’ barbershop vibe, Molly’s marijuana life, #adulting, meeting local singles at the rotisserie chicken aisle, vanilla ice cream, Chris reveals a meat-based food fantasy, advanced drug dealer menus, funky hats have made a comeback, promoter beanies, the Mystery Method,...
Apr 20, 2022•1 hr 15 min•Ep. 331
