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How Did They Get There

Penn Media Group www.pennpllc.com

"For nearly a decade, How Did They Get There has been a space where artists and filmmakers reflect on their work, their relationships, and their search for meaning. Hosted by Dr. Penn (Jon Penn Junejo, DNP-BC), a Columbia-trained psychiatric nurse practitioner, the show brings together creativity and mental health in unfiltered, existential conversation."

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Ep. 63 - Tom Epperson on Baby Hawk, A Family Thing and The Gift

Trying to pigeonhole Tom Epperson into a single category is impossible—and that’s part of what makes his career so compelling. His path as a novelist and screenwriter has been anything but linear, weaving through genres and mediums with equal parts grit and curiosity. He knew early on that writing would be his life’s work, and meeting lifelong friend and collaborator Billy Bob Thornton during boyhood only strengthened that conviction, leading to a six-decade partnership that produced tremendousl...

Sep 21, 20252 hrEp. 63

Ep. 62 - Philip Andelman on Khruangbin, Lenny Kravitz and Waiting on the World to Change

Philip Andelman’s inspired take on the language and rhythm of music videos has impacted the medium in countless ways. The results are evident in his collaborations with contemporary artists, including Usher, Melissa Etheridge, Ludacris, Maxwell, d4vd, James Bay and Taylor Swift. Formative experiences with Annie Leibowitz launched his entry-point into photography. After NYU, continued experiential education under the guidance of Joseph Kahn, the legend, exposed Philip to the world of music videos...

Feb 09, 20251 hrEp. 62

Ep. 61 - Nabil Elderkin on Gully, The People and Kendrick Lamar

Director Nabil Elderkin shoots music videos and films governed by vision, collaboration and diversity. While thematic similarities connect the dots between his projects, each video is different and a product of the stellar combination of the right artist, the right lighting, and maybe most importantly - the right feel. Growing up in a multi-cultural sphere, dictated by several international moves, led to an open-mindedness and an adaptability which did not hurt his transition into film. Surfing ...

Feb 02, 20251 hrEp. 61

Ep. 60 - Onur Tukel on Poundcake, Richard's Wedding and Anne Heche

As an actor and filmmaker, Onur Tukel challenges the audience to delve into the frightening parts of who they are by, at times, leading them to live vicariously through his protagonists’ colorful experiences. From exploring the joy of mortality in Drawing Blood, to the perils of masculinity in 2001’s Ding-a-ling-Less, to a platonic theme of friendship amidst a romantic undertone in Richard’s Wedding, the loss of one’s identity among the backdrop of a physical manifestation of revenge in Catfight...

Jan 23, 20251 hr 52 minEp. 60

Ep. 59 - Joe Boyd on And the Roots of Rhythm Remain, Salamat Ali and Nick Drake

Joe Boyd’s revered productions of artists ranging from Pink Floyd, The Incredible String Band and Nick Drake had been widely-circulated and universally-acclaimed. He had worked with Stanley Kubrick at Warner Bros to assemble the soundtrack to A Clockwork Orange. He founded the UFO Club which featured avant-garde artists like Soft Machine — which became his house band — and Yoko Ono. Productions of R.E.M., Billy Bragg, 10,000 Maniacs, Fairport Convention and Richard and Linda Thompson followed. H...

Dec 24, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 59

Ep. 58 - Arizona O'Neill on CBC's Creator Network, Organ Donation and Patrick Watson

Arizona O’Neill’s art delves into topics derived from her Montreal upbringing and French-Quebec culture, and include the ramifications of gentrification, the vibrancy of music, and the origins of revolt. She has contributed several pieces to The CBC Creator Network, which include Hockey Riots, Period Pieces, and History of Jazz. Her novel, Est-ce qu’un artiste peut être heureux? (or “Can an Artist be Happy?”) was published in November 2022. And her impressive catalogue of illustrations, for publ...

Dec 16, 202454 minEp. 58

Ep. 57 - Bernardo Cubria on Acapulco, The Hispanic/Latino/Latina/Latinx/Latine Vote and Gene Wilder

Cultural incongruence and its consequences is a theme which has shaped Bernardo Cubria’s work in several different ways. As an actor, in television shows like Group, his work explores what it means to be misunderstood, and delves into the epiphany which often arises when one realizes his peers’ criticisms and insights, which they initially may have dismissed, may, in fact, lead to realizations about self that may significantly affect their perspective. As a playwright, it has laid the backdrop t...

Nov 17, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 57

Ep. 56 - Matt Williams on Glimpses, Roseanne and Tim Allen

Matt Williams utilizes a character-centric approach in creating and developing iconic television series, including Roseanne and Home Improvement. The Humanitas Prize and 6-time Emmy nominated Evansville native received graduate degrees in directing and acting, and embarked on a host of television commercials, as an actor, before realizing his talent and bliss as the driving force behind impactful, relatable film and television projects. After cutting his teeth as an actor (and de facto writer an...

Nov 10, 202449 minEp. 56

Ep. 55 - Stephen Suettinger on A Year and Change, Waiting and James Cameron

Stephen Suettinger directs and writes projects which address complicated themes, such as substance use, depression and unrequited love. His unique portrayals have a tendency to delve deeper into their most intimate desires, which occasionally blur the line between fiction and reality and makes for interesting storytelling. Following his debut short film, Writing Wrongs, the Maryland native attended the film MFA program at USC and cut his teeth in experiences surrounding the world of film on proj...

Oct 20, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 55

Ep. 54 - Wade Allain-Marcus on Eric, French Dirty and Insecure

Actor and filmmaker Wade Allain-Marcus has a unique approach toward his involvement in a variety of films and television projects. It derives from factors like his mixed background, training in the Experimental Theatre Wing (ETW) at NYU, and growing up with parents in the business. The approach is one thing, but the result speaks for itself and is shaped by the ensembles he finds himself immersed into, such as the regular casts of HBO’s Insecure or Netflix’s Eric, the latter opposite Benedict Cu...

Aug 06, 202454 minEp. 54

Ep. 53 - Idan Ravin on Winning Time, The Hoops Whisperer and Kevin Hart

Idan Ravin is the elite NBA trainer who has individually worked with over 100 NBA players, including LeBron James, Stephen Curry, Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant. When an NBA player realizes a flaw in their game is keeping them from being able to operate at their full potential, they call Idan for assistance. He is known for his unorthodox (no pun intended) training sessions, which tend to prioritize dynamic movement over traditional, stationary drills. Idan’s thumbprint on the league can be seen ...

May 12, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 53

Ep. 52 - Max Azulay on 5 Doctors, Carmen and Moony, and Mel Brooks

Actor, writer and director Max Azulay leveraged his obsession with filmmaking to create unique, irreverent films armed with his comedic sensibility. The influence of the legendary Mel Brooks seeped in early on in his Suburban upbringing, which happened to take place 40 minutes from New York City, and helped inspire his young creativity. Finding his community of like-minded comedic cinephiles led to several short films which channelled his interests. He moved to Los Angeles to attend Occidental C...

Apr 03, 202458 minEp. 52

Ep. 51 - Elisha Lawson on Syncing Ink, Chicago Improv and Marlon Brando

Elisha Lawson has acted in a number of projects through the years, including Boardwalk Empire, Shades of Blue, NCIS: New Orleans, and Group. In addition to his work on television, he has worked on several plays such as productions of A Raisin in the Sun and To Kill A Mockingbird, where he first met fellow Group cast-member, Ezra Barnes. His latest play, Syncing Ink, was created by playwright NSangou Njikam and will begin performances May 7, with an official opening set for May 19, at the Apollo ...

Mar 27, 20241 hr 31 minEp. 51

Ep. 50 - Andromeda Turre on From the Earth, Growing up Jazz and Charlie Parker

Jazz is not only a second language for vocalist, composer and SiriusXM radio personality, Andromeda Turre — it’s her mother tongue. She grew up in a world raised by two of the finest Jazz OGs, world-renowned cellist Akua Dixon and legendary trombonist Steve Turre, and formed formative relationships with Dizzy Gillespie, Max Roach and Wynton Marsalis (a.k.a. the Jazz Pilgrims). Formal piano instruction with the phenomenal Sonelius Smith began at age four. Next emerged Andromeda’s training as a da...

Mar 09, 20241 hr 8 minEp. 50

Ep. 49 - Todd Louiso on Hello I Must Be Going, Love Liza and High Fidelity

Todd Louiso has acted in several notable projects over the years, such as films which include Scent of a Woman, Apollo 13, The Rock, Jerry Maguire, and Thank You for Smoking. He has made guest appearances on television shows like Fraiser, Silicon Valley, House, Angie Tribeca and Married. While his presence on-screen has always made sense, Todd’s freedom of expression behind the camera can be felt through his palpable, strong character-driven films. Love Liza, starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman, is...

Nov 14, 20231 hr 23 minEp. 49

Ep. 48 - Mark Pellington on The Severing, I Melt with You and Nada Surf

Mark Pellington’s pioneering influence on music videos as a modality to convey emotion, story and feeling will never be forgotten. From Leonard Cohen to Linkin Park, Michael Jackson to Public Enemy, Foo Fighters and Alice in Chains to Chelsea Wolfe and Bruce Springsteen, MP had penultimate foresight in constructing some of the most memorable portraits of love, war, loss, spirit and activism. His feature films each brought a tenet to the medium of storytelling. From 1997’s Going All The Way (Ben ...

Oct 28, 20231 hr 13 minEp. 48

Ep. 47 - Jonathan Parker on Carol Doda Topless at the Condor, (Untitled) and The Architect

Jonathan Parker writes, directs and produces films which blend together the aspects of art he gravitates toward, including architecture, music, storytelling and intricate attention to detail. The Northern California native grew up in an artistic family, and studied English at Stanford. It was when he joined a New Wave band, and directed their first music video that he discovered film’s nature of acting as a matrix for his artistic interests. After directing several short films, Jonathan wrote an...

Sep 10, 202358 minEp. 47

Ep. 46 - Dito Montiel on A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, Son of No One and Reagan Youth

Dito Montiel’s upbringing in Astoria was filled with so many unique characters which affected him on a lot of different levels. His memoir, A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, is a collage of these visceral experiences and how they shaped how he sees the world through music, writing and film. He wrote and directed the seminal film adaptation of his novel which won the Dramatic Directing Award at Sundance and received an Independent Spirit Award nomination for Best First Screenplay. Since then, h...

Aug 14, 20231 hr 23 minEp. 46

Ep. 45 - Ezra Barnes on Group, Jessica Jones and Count Basie

Film, television and theatre are each modalities in the performing arts Ezra Barnes has been directly immersed into, both as an actor and director. Using performance as a curiosity valve for the preservation of ideals, such as imagination and spirited curiosity, are an important element of Ezra’s foundational goals as an actor. Since joining a secret film club in fourth grade, Ezra instinctively knew he was going to be an artist. And going to the theatre starting from an early age, with encourag...

Aug 06, 20231 hr 18 minEp. 45

Ep. 44 - Dana Kuznetzkoff on Omara, Forrest Gump and The Wire

As a versatile producer and assistant director, Dana Kuznetzkoff has worked on legendary projects which include Forrest Gump, 2 Days in the Valley and The Wire. Dana wears several hats in the film industry, and her approach toward selecting projects has a lot to do with the value of the collaboration to take place. The Bronx native was in the midst of taking a significant role in the world of advertising when a chance encounter, one that didn’t go so well, veered her off onto a different path in...

Jul 26, 20231 hr 1 minEp. 44

Ep. 43 - Janet Grillo on The Warm Season, Spanking the Monkey and Hip Hop Culture

Janet Grillo’s latest directorial effort — The Warm Season — is a testament to being conscious in a changing time. It is true the landscape of film has evolved over the years; however, it’s the consistency of Janet’s track record as a multifaceted filmmaker which exudes the contrast between black and white; open or closed; and aware vs. uncertain. After graduating from Wesleyan and NYU-Tisch, the New Jersey native joined the Playwright’s Workshop Lab at the Circle Repertory Company, where she co...

Jul 06, 20231 hr 8 minEp. 43

Ep. 42 - Alfredo de Villa on Nothing Like the Holidays, Adrift in Manhattan and Mulholland Drive

Alfredo de Villa directs films which layer complex characters onto the backdrop of vibrant emotions; irreverent humor and interweaving narrative themes which take the lead. They carry the weight of strong characters as they brace themselves for the reality they’re immersed in after not realizing the fact until someone, or something or their own voice rises to the surface and informs who they really are. His first film, Washington Heights, is a testament to that reality. Alfredo accompanied the j...

Jun 30, 20231 hr 51 minEp. 42

Ep. 41 - Angela Zhou on Death and Other Details, Hell on Wheels and Auckland Cuisine

Actress and writer Angela Zhou stars in the upcoming Hulu show, Death and Other Details (formerly Career Opportunities in Murder & Mayhem) which is set to premiere this year. She previously starred in AMC’s Hell on Wheels, opposite Anson Mount, playing a character trying to make a fresh start while carrying an important secret. The show was shot in Canada, and took place during the time following the Civil War, and laid across the backdrop of the construction of the first transcontinental ra...

Jun 16, 20231 hr 5 minEp. 41

Ep. 40 - Jesse Gustafson on Day 39, Black Site Delta and Army Peacekeeping Missions

Unique experiences affecting disparate individuals, from the marginalized to the privileged, form the template for the types of stories filmmaker Jesse Gustafson conveys in his projects. After graduating high school in Florida, Jesse enlisted in the US Army at age 17, and was deployed on a peacekeeping mission to post-genocide Bosnia-Herzegovina. Considering the possibility of remaining in the military, Jesse decided to study theater, studying scenic design at the University of Florida and gradu...

May 28, 20231 hr 47 minEp. 40

Ep. 39 - Topper Lilien on Low Down, Where the Money Is and Fisher Stevens

Screenwriter Topper Lilien has a lens shaped with extraordinary life experiences, which have a symbiotic relationship with his diverse array of film projects. In other words, the two feed off of each other, and push forward the creation of something truly unique. The New York native has seen it all when it comes to the development, production, release, and perhaps most importantly, the collaborative aspects of film. He wrote one of the seminal jazz films about the colorful life and career of jaz...

May 21, 20231 hrEp. 39

Ep. 38 - Helen Schulman on Lucky Dogs, P.S. and Gordon Lish

As a renowned author and screenwriter, Helen Schulman’s work makes the isolated feel less alone. Her latest novel, Lucky Dogs, is a perfect example in its deep navigation of themes like mental illness, social media, duplicity and betrayal. In her novels and short story collections, which include A Day at the Beach, This Beautiful Life, Come with Me and The Revisionist, she explores topics like tragedy, technology, lost love and escape, affected by the lens of her own unique experiences. She wrot...

Apr 26, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 38

Ep. 37 - Joel Stein on Story of the Week, I Love the '80s and Martha Stewart

After finding his voice as a columnist for The Stanford Daily, journalist, commentator and podcast host Joel Stein headed off to New York City to begin his career as a fact-checker and writer at Martha Stewart Living. Since then, he has written for publications such as Time Out New York; Time Magazine, where he authored over 20 cover stories throughout a 20 year period; Entertainment Weekly; and the Los Angeles Times. Throughout his career, he has appeared as a commentator on VH1’s I Love the ‘8...

Apr 11, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 37

Ep. 36 - Lauren Wolkstein on Dead Ringers, A Friend of the Family and The Strange Ones

One of the signatures which differentiates filmmaker Lauren Wolkstein’s work is adaptability through medium. Lauren’s approach toward narrative and storytelling harbors a rare versatility, which allows her to nearly seamlessly transition from film to television; short to feature; thriller to drama; and dystopian commentary to historical narrative. She harnessed her talent and developed her ability as a screenwriter at Columbia’s MFA program, and made short films, like Cigarette Candy, which push...

Mar 29, 20231 hr 10 minEp. 36

Ep. 35 - Selina Fillinger on The Morning Show, POTUS and Faceless

Selina Fillinger is the playwright behind renowned theatrical works like POTUS: Or, Behind Every Great Dumbass are Seven Women Trying To Keep him Alive; Something Clean; Faceless; and the Armor plays: Cinched/Strapped. The former marked her Broadway debut at the Shubert Theatre in 2022; was directed by Broadway legend, Susan Stroman; and led to three Tony Award nominations, including Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role nods for both Julie White and Rachel Dratch. She also wrote for...

Mar 21, 20231 hr 13 minEp. 35

Ep. 34 - Josh Pais on Joker, Committed Impulse and Ray Donovan

The dynamic nature of actor Josh Pais’s approach toward constructing performance; harnessing creativity; and retaining the spontaneity associated with each moment on-screen is part of his signature. With over 100 roles to his credit, the Lower East Side native grew up in a culturally vibrant, evolving environment which led him to cultivate his own unique sense of identity as one of the finest performers in the film and television industry. His remarkable filmography includes memorable performanc...

Mar 04, 202355 minEp. 34
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