Oh. Oh, bad. On the other side. It's on the dark side of your oh. Oh, the cut, like stabbing and cutting, just like the idea just gives me the hibbly jibblies.
Do you need
something like that? Is it that deep? Oh. Oh, don't know. No. No. No. I don't wanna, like peeling an apple, like like that kind of.
Your background looks different.
Yeah. I moved I literally moved my office across the house into a different room entirely.
Wait. Really?
Yeah. We, we switched the workout room and my office.
How come?
Well, theoretically, over here, there will be no noise. I don't have to deal with the kids running around upstairs. It just should be like I can record anytime without disrupting the house, and I'm trying to get the Pro AWS self paced stuff done. That's gonna take, some dedicated quiet time in the house, and that's impossible. So we moved my office. It was actually a huge, huge undertaking, because as you know, the fiber terminates in my office closet.
I was gonna say that. I was gonna say that fiber no longer makes your office. Or does it?
It the the fiber terminates there, but the modem is the only thing in that closet now, and it sends
I see.
It's connected through Ethernet. I moved my server rack across the house, which meant electricians running new dedicated circuits. I mean, it was like a huge undertaking. But it all went pretty smooth. It was like one day. It took a whole day. I was really sore the next day. So I did this on Wednesday. Yesterday, my toes, everything, somehow is sore from moving all this heavy stuff.
Isn't it funny that no matter how much you work out, the moment you do, like, a different motion,
that's
not what you've been doing? It's just like you suck at life again.
You find all the little things that have not been worked out. Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I because I had to move our gym, which had, like, some crazy heavy stuff. We I'd get a hand truck. Like, it was a whole deal.
I I always find the concept of, like, moving weights to be funny. Like, you, like, you order weights from Amazon or whatever, and it's like they just have to bring this really heavy package to you. But the purpose of the package has no purpose of them being heavy. And to the amount that I find I find really funny. So you have to move your weights, and and it's like, why are these things so heavy? Well, that's that's like what you bought them for. Yeah. To be heavy.
Exactly. So you're given, I guess the UPS drivers get a little workout every day moving people's fitness equipment.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is have we talked about the arbitrary nature of exercise, like, on the podcast? Just how weird it is?
No. What do you mean?
Well, just like the idea of exercise as this idea that we had to introduce because we just don't move anymore. We used to, like, 500 years ago. They didn't have to exercise. They just, like they moved all the time. Right?
So there's a funny observation that someone had made, and I experienced it in real life. When I was in New York, the gym I would go to was so, weirdly, I lived in Manhattan, but I live right next to a mall, like a very suburban feeling mall. And the gym was on the 2nd floor, and so I have to go up there. And, of course, I had 2 options, the escalator or the stairs. And instinctively, I go on the escalator so that I can go to the gym and then, like, do exercise. Right?
It's just yeah.
My brain is like, I can't exert here, but I can exert up there.
Exactly. It's such a bizarre thing. Like, when you really think about what we do, all the different things we do in fitness, and just how big of an industry it is, like strength training and cardio, all these things that just, like, they're all modern. They're constructs that we had to invent just to move like little hamsters on a hamster wheel.
Yeah. I mean, it's funny this now extends to animals too. Like like, Zuko needs a workout every day because he's so far removed from his natural state as well.
It's not bad. I'm not complaining about it. It's just kinda funny when you think about it. Yeah. Like, us doing all these things that are kinda mimicking, like, what our long ago ancestors would have done just in daily life.
Yeah. This is a this it's fine. I think I bring up to live in every single episode lately, but he has this funny line where he's like, the best workout is a random street fight every
day. Yeah. That that'll do it. The adrenaline. I mean, I I don't know, like, a street fight. I'm sure that's a whole another level, but, like, jujitsu tournaments is about as much adrenaline as I felt. I mean, I played high school football. Like, I've done some things in life that would have been, like, pretty adrenaline driving, jujitsu tournaments. It like, when you're fighting another person, there's just something about it. It it you exert things that you just can't exert.
You can't mimic it in the gym. Like, I can't go in the gym and, like, actually drum that up. It all has to come through physiology. Yeah.
I think his point, beyond the adrenaline is that, the randomness of a street fight, similar to you moving your weights. Yeah. Like, you know, the street fights are random every time. So
Yeah. It it is really interesting, like, as I've been getting more and more into strength training, I have a personal trainer, just the isolated nature of every movement. Like, we're doing these crazy specific movements in this full range of motion that, like, ultimately is really isolating muscle groups. But then, yeah, you do something totally random, like move your furniture around and you find out. There's a lot of connected stuff, a lot of other little muscles that but I'm not really working in the gym.
It's it's funny because I feel like my it's things have been inverted. Because when I was younger and I would play, like, 3 or 4 hours of sports every day, we had to, like, go to the weight room for practice, but, like, I, like, never did anything in there. I just completely BS it. But it didn't matter because I was, like, doing the actual thing. We've actually sport otherwise.
So it's, like, just an optimization on top of that that I that I was skipping. But now it's the complete opposite where, like, I never play sports. I like just do the other work, which is a lot less fun and I feel like a lot less effective generally.
Yeah. So on that note, we're getting ready to play a basketball game at Laracon in, like, 2 weeks. I mean, it's soon.
I know.
Yeah. You have not touched a basketball, I saw you say, on Slack.
I don't know when the last time was. Like, 6 years, maybe.
I I also didn't know. I went in the other day and just by myself in the gym because there was nobody there. I didn't know in the early mornings if there'd be, like, pickup games or something, but nobody there. I just shot around. Just, like, ran around and shot, but not even, like, ran around a lot.
Like, stayed on 1 half court and just kinda, like, you know, you know, like, just kinda, like, mimicking game situations. I did some post stuff. I did whatever. I burned, like, 400 calories in 45 minutes, which is just insane for, like, shooting around. I'm not, like, playing a if I played a game of basketball, my my heart would explode, first of all.
But I'd have that whole, like, first time back where you taste blood, like, you know what I'm talking about, like, in your lungs. Like, there's something about, like, getting that first game experience. But just shooting around, I burned a ton of calories. I was sweating like crazy. It was amazing workout, and it was just fun.
Like, I never once thought, like, I'm doing a hard thing. It's just like, this is a good time. And the same thing with playing a game. Like, you get caught up in it, and you're just huffing and puffing. But it's nothing like arbitrary workouts where you kinda hate every second and you just wanna be done. So we gotta play sports.
I know. I gotta get back into it. It's, yeah. I remember, like, in the summer when I was in high school, like, literally for hours every single day in the hot summer, like, I'd be doing something. And, like, by the end of the summer, I just could run forever. I would just run and just never get tired. And now, like, I can barely run. Yeah. Yeah. I still remember that feeling.
So are you gonna do anything before this this much anticipated game? I said,
I don't know. It's really not my style too.
Are you concerned at all about just dying in a full court pickup game?
I am gonna die
for sure,
but we've got a lot of subs. We'll we'll sub, like,
we'll But we can only sell out so much. Somebody has to play.
I think we have enough subs where we could literally just have, like where, like, you don't have to play for more than 2 minutes and you don't watch.
Oh, really? Okay. Nice. Okay. So I'm putting too much pressure on it.
Was it, like, 7 players per side?
Which would just be 2 subs, or are we playing 4 on 4?
If we hang on. I think it was maybe it was 9. I forgot what what David said. But, I mean, even 2 subs is is good. Right? Because you just sub Well,
if me and you are both dying, and we have to sub out, and we can't come back in, then that means our bail size keep playing.
We just do frequent subs, you know, short breaks. Okay.
Yeah. Short breaks. Yeah. On the side, and then we'll just jump back in there.
In my opinion, given the average age of everyone, I thought we should just do half court, 4 on 4, and the camera set up would be easier too.
It's true. But I don't know if did you see the 3 on 3 Olympic stuff? How dumb is that sport? Like, the 3 on 3 basketball?
I didn't I didn't see it.
The it just shouldn't exist. It looks so stupid, like, compared to real basketball. Like, just all of them playing on a half court, 3 on 3. I don't know. Just for the Olympics, it just feels like the Olympics should be better than that. I don't know. More like epic. I just felt like this weird pickup game.
I didn't even realize there was like, did we really need more basketball? Like, why why is there, like, basketball? And then, like, we're like, we also wanna have this, like, kind of basketball. Okay?
Yeah. I don't get it. Like, who's who's asking for that? Who actually does decide what sports are played at the Olympics?
Yeah. I mean, there's a Olympic committee, but then I was like, I was thinking about I want I didn't watch I didn't watch any Olympics. Like, I would see the stuff that showed up on Twitter and stuff.
Yeah. I guess I didn't either. I mean, I followed like, I saw the headlines that, like, the US won the basketball, like, some things like that. I I guess I did catch a couple, like, highlights, like the Lyle's 100 meter.
Yeah. It was crazy.
See that? That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't really I didn't sit down and watch the Olympics ever. Yeah.
So someone I made a thread of highlights, and one of them was the synchronized swimming, which is, you know, really, like, insane and crazy. But that
was didn't walk?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I just couldn't shake the thought of, like, how did we even come up with this in the first place? Like, how is there, like because one, I was imagining, how do you get into this in the first place? Like, so random. How do you even, like, get into this?
So I can imagine, at some point someone was like, oh, like, you can do, like, these cool dancing moves in the water and, like, maybe that turned to a sport. But at what point were they like, okay. But now it's a team sport and we're gonna, like, complete it's the entire concept is gonna be as in sync you are. It just seems so, like, contrived. How does that I it's interesting.
People get so good at it? How do they get, like, accepted to Olympic level? How is there, like, a scoring category for it? There's so many things like that Yeah. In the Olympics. And, like, yeah, when did all this happen?
To be honest, I'm bothered by all of the different events that have, like, a judge. It just feels, like, subjective and, like, there's not the subjective truth that, like, you cross the line before the other people. You win. It's like, I'm gonna dock you a little bit for your style points on this event. Like, what does that mean? I don't know. It just feels bad to me.
I actually feel the other way around. My issue with the judges is that they're judges, but then it seems really narrow in terms of how they can score. Like, there's, like, a rubric they basically fill out.
Just the deductions and all that. Yeah.
Yeah. And, like, there's, like, a technical score for everything. And there's, like, you know, an execution score and
The difficulty yeah. I it's also So to
to me, that all feels made up to the point where I'm just like or it feels like it robs it or something where I just rather it be like a better
if they were just judges that were, like, out of 10. Yeah. Yeah. Didn't that used to be the thing? Like, you got an 8. They hold up the card. Wasn't that a thing in the Olympics? Oh, that's the dunk contest. I thought that was the Olympics. Oops. Yeah. And I
mean, I I love the dunk contest for that reason because it's about, like, showmanship and, like, surprising people and and and all of that. So I'd rather just then commit to the idea of judges versus this weird middle ground.
Okay. So that that brings up a great, thing I wanna talk to you about. Not a great thing. It's just a stupid storyline, I think. But this breakdancing thing. You breakdance? You're a breakdancer. I watched the clip. I just I saw it scrolling through Twitter, didn't know anything about the story, and I couldn't have told you she was good or bad at breakdancing. It didn't look like she wasn't breakdancing to me.
Everyone freaked out. She got 0 points. She scanned the weigh in or something. I to me, it looked like she was breakdancing. I didn't
get it.
Yeah. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, to the layman
I I don't think that was uncommon because that was the first day of the event, and that was some of the first clips that people saw. And a lot of the replies were, I can't believe they put breakdancing in Olympics. So I guess a lot of people concluded that that's what breakdancing was Yeah. And it wasn't that impressive. So this is like so I I need to So
I need to watch some of the other contestants so I can understand why she got a 0 out of 300.
So breakdancing is is funny because what she was doing, I'd never seen anyone move like that. That was like someone described it in this hilariously perfect way where they were like, this seems like one of those spy comedies where, like, the spy has to act like they're in in a breakdance contest.
Yeah. Leslie Nielsen or something.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, they throw something away. They're like, just doing what they think breakdancing would be in this comedic way. That's really what it came across, like, to me as
someone that,
like, knows how the movements are. That said, there's also this other extreme. So if you watch, like, the next days with, like, the more, like, expert people Mhmm. People watched, some of them. They were like, how did that person not win?
They were clearly the best. So there's a version of breakdancing. There's 2 things in breakdancing. There's, like, power moves and there's, like, style. So power moves tend to be the things that if you don't know much about breakdancing, you're just like, holy shit. How did they even do that? Like, the they go upside down. They're flying around. They're they're doing all these, like, crazy, like, effectively, like, gymnastics, but Yeah. You know, in the breakdancing form.
And so you think that that's, like, what that's all about. And, like, whoever does that stuff the best is the one that wins. But it's not because there's a musicality component to it, which is where the style thing comes in. The best people are the ones that can, like, compose those crazy moves together along with, like, more traditional dancing things, and I hit the beat and, like, improvise and all that stuff. And if you're not, like, into music or into, like, dancing in general, like, you might not even pick up on that on some of those things.
Yeah. I picked up on none of them. I thought, I mean, some of it looked ridiculous. Some of the things she did, like the windshield wiper looking moves with their legs, I got that that looked stupid, but then she did some stuff that looked like I don't know. I've seen break dancers do
no?
Not at all? No.
Okay. It's not not really. And, like, I I know Scott so so Scott is like Yeah. Scott's. He's he's, like, way better than I ever was. Like, he's very, very, very, very good.
I saw him do some of it at React Miami.
Yes. Yeah. He's, he's quite good. I never really got into the power moves. I, like, kinda stay with the style stuff, and he's very good at the power stuff as well. And he and he was, like, trying to defend the situation, which I totally get. Like, in general, if this person performed or, like, was at, like, some kind of breakdancing event and did what she did, most people would not say anything mean. They would, like, be nice and and support her.
Because it's the Olympics?
Which is which is kinda the spirit he was trying to bring trying to, like, remind people of. But at the same time, like, it's the Olympics. Like, this is
Yeah.
This is a slot that you have put yourself in. You've opted into. You understand that, you know, you're choosing to compete at this level. And I'm really skeptical that in the entire country of Australia people were saying, like, oh, you know, like, female breakdancing isn't as pertinent, but, like, that's not really true. Like, I like, there's something that
I can do with it. Like, at the Olympics, is it male and female?
Yeah. I think it was men versus yeah. It was separate. So I feel like there had to be someone else in the entire country of Australia that was better. It just might be that, like, it's a new it's a new event. Maybe people weren't interested or, like, it was, like, annoying to qualify or whatever it was.
Well, no. There there's, like, the whole story. You you not heard, like, the she was the head of a committee or her and her husband or something? Like, she basically, like, forced her way in.
Judge? Oh, is that a thing?
Yeah. Like, it was kind of a scam, a bit of a scandal. But, to me, it it isn't, like, surprising, I guess, that, like, this many sports, this many countries, there's gonna be some people get in that, like, maybe they shouldn't have been in. I don't know. I guess it's bad for if you're an Australian woman breakdancer and you didn't get in because this, woman forced her way in, then you feel bad, and that sucks.
But, like, it's not surprising to me. I'm surprised, actually, if this is the first time this kind of thing has happened, that'd be surprising to me. Like, I feel like this should be pretty common.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think the the image didn't help because it was that. And then, like, she's, like, a professor. It's an academic, you know? Of
break dancing?
Yeah. Well, not I mean, people are saying that, but that's, like, a little bit of an exaggeration. I think she's had some Yeah. Papers on, like it's a tough thing that I hate. People write papers on really contrived, pretentious things. It's like the effect on breakdancing of socioeconomic. It's just like it's just stuff like that. Right? Like, stuff that it doesn't look good. Like, maybe there's some value in that paper, but you can see how it seems like it's probably just made up.
You know? So it really just feels like this outsider that kind of, was, like, a fan of this thing and tried to, like, claim it. I mean, that's what it what it looks like. Yeah. I just struggle to imagine that there weren't there wasn't someone better that Akshaya could've Oh, sure. Could've put forward. She got 0 points. That's that's funny.
Impressive, actually. Like, to go out there and get 0 points, I feel like that's almost as hard as getting a a really good score. Right?
Yeah. I I I did okay. So I will say, I think there is a split between people that I observe. So when something like this happens so I will laugh at it, and I will think that it's funny, in some cases. But my first thought is always, oh my god. Like, what if that was me? You know? Like, what if
what if
that was me? It was like, in this situation, the whole world thinks I suck at dancing, and, like, everyone's talking about it. Like, I just think about how easily that just could have been me even though it's a completely irrational. Like, why would I have ended up in this situation?
Yeah.
And that, like, tempers, like, any kind of reaction I have a good amount. But other people just that doesn't cross their head at all, and they just, like, go at it with full force. And people just can't believe that they could randomly be in that situation. And this extends to the point where, like like, anything crazy, like, anyone that's, like, killed someone. And I'm like, oh my god. Like, what if I was in a situation where I killed someone?
I don't do that. No. I Oh, really? Well, have I told you what I do, which is, like, if somebody was, like, somebody in this room killed someone, I immediately feel like it was me. Like, I am the guilty one. I always have this feeling of guilt, and I don't know where that comes from.
I think I've told you that. Unrelated. Yeah. I think it's kinda related.
Yeah.
I would say I watched it's a ray gun. I watched the clips, like, so many times. Like, I watched so I went and I, like, collected them all in different tabs and just was watching over and over and over. And finally, someone made, like, a full compilation. I was like, thank you. And they watched that one over and over and over again.
Just because it was, like, enjoyable, funny to you? Or
There's this one move that she does where it looks like she's trying to do, like, ab workouts, which is, like, on her side. She's, like, crunching. I'm like Yeah.
Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about.
Yeah. I like this this still reminds me of, like you know how workout classes get, like, weirder and weirder and weirder over time because they need to, like, get people excited about moving their body. Yeah. Uh-huh. This looks like some weird Pilates alternative someone someone came up with.
I mean, like, again, if you don't know anything about breakdancing, it all just seems like the same stuff to me. Like, what's the difference? And, like, why is that not impressive, but this other random movement is? I mean, I know it's not random, but it just seems weird to me an arbitrary.
But you you you you could've done all of those movements with 0.
I couldn't I couldn't do real breakdancing moves is what you're saying. Like, those, I could actually
watching what she did. Yeah. You you I I can't think of a single movement in there that you would need, like, practice.
So I could just, like, actually oh. How many people have, like, fully done the full routine, like, mimic that? Because, like, that'd be an interesting exercise. Can I do the entire routine? I'll film it if I do.
And I also another thing this is what's funny about specifically stuff in the hip hop category because so much of it is there's not technical rules to it. And so much about it is this unmeasurable thing that you can't articulate. Someone out there could probably I bet I could actually even do this. Could go do that exact same routine. It's, like, basically the exact same, and it would look like 10 times better.
Interesting.
Just because they have a certain sense of a certain thing that is totally missing.
Is it Riz? Is that what Yeah.
It's like it's that category. Like Yeah. It's, like and even someone watching it, then knows nothing about it. You compare the 2 and be like, that person's better, but you wouldn't be able to really really say why.
Like, if if Michael Jackson were still alive and and he did those moves, it'd be like, oh, that's actually pretty cool. Okay.
Yeah. He would just look cooler doing it. And, and a lot of it, like, there there's some, like it could come down to the clothes you wear. It come it could come down to, like, the shape of your body. Just understanding all that and how to make stuff look good. Yeah. It's not like someone sit there, sits there and studies it and figures it out. They're just like a instinct you develop over time Mhmm. Around those things.
It's interesting that there's, like, that there is, like, these objective, like, that looks better than that. It's interesting that we, like, prefer on the viewing side that we have these weird, like, instinctual preferences that we don't decide. And it's like Mhmm. That was more aesthetically pleasing than that when it comes out of these very complex things like
Mhmm.
Dance movements. It's super interesting. Yeah. I respect dancers a lot. Like, that just looks hard. When I watch like, Casey watches TikTok stuff, when I see, like, crazy dance stuff people do, that's impressive. Like, to be able to control your body like that, as someone who's tried to play some sports, not easy. Like, I can't imagine doing some of those things.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think there's, like, this, I definitely experienced because I was super into dance up in high school, and I also played sports. And there's, like, a great synergy between the 2. Like, when you get knocked around, maintaining your balance and, like, recovering and stuff, like, it's it's so similar to, like, the dancing motions you get you get used to.
Yeah. I think of, like, Steph Curry. He'd probably be a really good dancer. Yeah. I'm guessing. Okay. This this conversation got weird. Let's move on.
I don't know where we're at right now.
What's going on? I I feel like we haven't talked much. I'm a bit out of the loop on basically everything. Yeah.
You've been kinda silent.
I have been. What's what's going on in the world or in our little world?
I cut my head yesterday shaving, and it's bad. Oh, okay. See it. And I'm not gonna show it to you
because I think On the other side
It's it's it's right. It's back here.
It's on the dark side of your I
I was going like this, and then I was going really fast, which I should not do, and I just went. And I was like, that felt like what yeah. Everyone reacts to it.
Like stabbing and cutting, just like, ugh. The idea just gives me the
the ability to I was in the shower, and it was just bleeding for, like, 15 minutes. And then I I put a Band Aid over, and this morning, I took it off. And it's still kinda bleeding because it took a clean
not good. Maybe you need, like, a not a stitch, but, like, one of those butterfly Band Aid things.
Do you
need something like that? Is it that deep?
Oh, it's not deep. It's it's like a super clean okay. So
Oh, don't no. No. No. No.
I have the perfect
like, peeling an apple. Like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of
It's just shallow. Okay. So the first time I ever met Kevin Wheeler, which was at React Miami, the day before I did the same thing to the side of my head. I've only come to my head twice. These are the two times that happened. And I was describing to him and he goes, oh, of course. He is. He's, like, so he's got so good with words. He's like, oh, you like slice a little piece of bacon off? And I was like, yeah. It's actually exactly what it was.
Because when we cut bacon, we do it really thinly. I know that.
Right. Yeah. You don't have
to say anything. A lot often. Yeah. I'm gonna go slice some bacon right now probably, actually. Just give me a second. No. I'm sure it makes sense to you. So that's what's
been going on with me.
So you cut your head in
half of your day. Hours. Okay. Well, have anything else happened in the world?
I don't
really know. Olympics.
In the tech world, what's going on on Twitter? I don't feel like I've been on Twitter hardly. There's a Fantasy Football League. That's the only time I go on Twitter now is to check the DMs for the Fantasy Football League. We got a little group of of tech friendlies. It's a good time.
Who's gonna win? Is there a
I will say I've won the last 2 Fantasy Football Leagues I was in. Really, wow. Saying.
I
do it every year, but, like, I've I've got a a secret, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna divulge it on the podcast.
Is there a punishment for someone that comes and laughs?
We're going to come up with something. Yes. If you wanna help, you're quite the sadist. If you if you wanna help come up with a great tech, Twitter. They have
to they have to sign up and take the SATs.
Okay. Sounds fun. It sounds awful. That'd be the kind of taboo that would just haunt me. It's like, I gotta go do the stupid SATs because I lost fantasy football.
So we gotta
come up we gotta come up with a winning thing and a losing thing. So it it actually, the we have an audience. I always forget. It's not just me and you. Anyone in the audience that wants to we need, like, an email address. We need some way for people to, like, officially send us suggestions. Let's do it. Send it to something anything anything really at tomorrow dotfm.
Whatever you want.
We'll just have it on an alias that forwards to me and DAX. So you can send it to DAX at tomorrow.fm. You can send it to [email protected]. You can send it to, slice off a little piece of bacon at tomorrow.fm. Whatever you'd like, really. And if you have suggestions for our fantasy football league, I'd like to hear from Dax too here. But if you have, like, a good prize or a good you lose situation, let us know.
If you lose, you have to post that tailwind sucks and then reply to every single reply you get, doubling down.
That sounds terrible.
There's something along the along those lines.
Oh, speaking of Kin, Kin's in the league. Kin, Rakus. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a good league. Let's take a quick break. I'm I'm just gonna say that when I have to pee now.
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Do you have a primary care physician?
Yeah. But, like, not like a I don't have, like, a person for life, which I have. I'm slowly filling in for other things, but I haven't figured that out for
Person for life? Like, your BFF? Your BFF?
With these things, like, I like to try to find someone that's really good. I can rely on forever for, like, the remainder of their career.
Yeah. Like a plumber, an electrician. Exactly.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I have an electrician now named Ed. He's done, like, 3 or 4 jobs for me. He's my electrician for life, as long as I live in the Ozarks. Shout out to Ed.
Yeah. It sucks when you move. You gotta you gotta start over. It's kinda what happens.
Yeah. You gotta start over. It's not really for life, is it?
Yeah. That said, I I went to a PCP, and I got
I'm sorry. What's a PCP? Oh, primary care physician.
Sorry. You know? Sorry. I I work in health tech, so so I know these things. The, I went, but I hadn't gone. I hadn't had, like, a physical in, like, 8 years.
Oh, yeah. I no. I don't think I've been to a doctor. I've gone to the hospital 2 or 3 times in the last last couple of years. Haven't been to a doctor, and I don't know how long. Like, maybe not in adulthood. Like, I don't think I've I've never had a primary care physician that's, like, my doctor. So well, never. Like, in high school. Like, growing up, I had one, like, our family doctor.
But, like, in adulthood, have never been able to fill that out on the form, you know, when you go in and fill out your forms, who's your primary care physician. I've never had one. And I'm trying to establish one. I went to the doctor yesterday for the first time in a very long time. One one thing I told them is that I pee a lot.
Just that's what made me think of it. I just like, I told them I have a podcast and they make fun of me that I have to pee all the time. So just had to get in there that I have a podcast. You know what I mean? Just one more listener.
If you find your podcast, you'd be like, why are you telling me that?
I'm vegan, by the way, also. Neovim too. Just if you're a curious doctor.
The the challenge me and Liz are struggling with is and this is okay. I have to say this is her thoughts. I'm gonna say that out loud because she always gives me shit when I repeat her thoughts. We went to this person to get her wisdom teeth out. I got mine out, and she got hers out a little bit later.
The most competent person ever. Like, makes you feel amazing. Like, so you like, really understand what's going on. You have really high confidence in what's gonna happen. Just really great unique vibe that makes you feel that way.
Then the actual procedure also, like, was way like, my wisdom teeth and hers did not hurt at all because they did all this stuff beforehand. They did, like, take these different things, like, a few days leading up to it, and then, like, it was, like, it's very, like Wow. Prescriptive thing that most people don't I'm, like, having That's not my experience.
Yeah. I had a rough experience.
And it was really so just, like, extremely, extremely, extremely competent, but he only freaking does mouth, jaw stuff. Like, I can't go to him if I'm like, I'm peeing a lot. You know?
I'm just like probably can't help you.
Here's the thing. He's, like, in the top 1% of doctors. So the point where I'm like, hey. If I need knee surgery, like, you just wanna take a crack at it. Like, I'm like, I'm sure you can do a
decent job. Probably better than, yeah, a knee surgeon in the Ozarks for sure. I'm sure you could figure something out.
Yeah. So we're like, why? It just sucks because it's such a precise field that even if you do find these people
Yeah.
It's just first, it's a narrow spot in your life.
Do you ever think about, like, the different we know that there's, like, there's the 10 x engineer trope, but there's, like, the engineers are, like, a 100 and a 1000 times better than other people who are paid to be an engineer. Do you ever think about that difference when you go to the doctor? Like
All the time.
Is this is this a 2 x doctor? I'm in the Ozarks, so I'm like, is this a is this a doctor?
Yeah. I mean, the this thing clicked for me at some point because I I was like, we just assume all doctors are smart because it's hard to be a doctor. But within that pool, there's still the traditional distribution there is in every single career. It doesn't matter. Mhmm. Like, the the worst doctor is so is probably horrible. You know? Yeah. Yeah. When you
hear like, I follow sports when I hear about, like, the knee surgeon they all go to.
Oh, yeah.
Or, like, an Achilles tear. It's like the guy. You go to this guy. And I think, like, he's probably, like, a 1000000 times better at surgery than the guy that did my knee surgery, like, easily.
Yeah. But, again, it's a it's a specialization that's crazy. So, Liz had to get her gallbladder out. And the guy the doctor that did it, at first, we were, like, a little she was a little nervous about it because he was pretty old. Like, he was maybe, like, 70.
So it kinda felt like, uh-oh. Like, you know, is he gonna, like Yeah. Because he had to stare at all of those things. But immediately, when she saw when he started talking about it, she felt way better because this is the only thing he has done for
He literally does that same
Every day, he wakes up That same surgery. Sucks out sucks out 2 gallbladders. He's removed, like, 1,000, 10 I don't know how many.
Like wild to think about, actually. Like, these people who the the surgeons that literally do one surgery repeatedly
Yeah.
All day long. They're scheduled out for this, like, one thing they work on. There's no equivalent to that in our industry, is there? Like because
it's manual labor. At the end of the day, it's manual, like, craftsmanship labor. Yeah. It's like you would hire someone to, like, build you a table. They built the same table a 1000 it's the exact same type of thing.
Yeah. Yeah. Is there like, what's the most specialized you get in tech? It's like, oh, this is the the mobile developer. What's the what's the what's the equivalent or the closest thing we have?
This does exist. This definitely exists. Like,
I know there's, like, the font rendering specialists that make, like, a 1,000,000 and a half at Google a year. There's that kind of thing where, like Mhmm. There's, like, a handful of people that know that stuff, and they do it really well. Is that is that close?
I think it usually ends up not being pure tech like that. I think it usually ends up being, like, something in a specific industry, like software in a specific industry.
Oh, I see. So it's more about the the type of software than it is. Crossover. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
Yeah. So but it's again, it's just not that's, like, rare for
Yeah.
But we don't generally operate that way. We operate as generalists. But, yeah, I just can't imagine, like I'm sure there's ways to, like, get more interested in new technique show up, but he's just doing that same sucking out gallbladders every single
Do they literally suck them out? They remove the gutter.
It's funny because it sounds like a joke, but I think they do use some kinda like,
Suction? That's crazy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I guess, like, all of Kate my wife, Casey's family, has had their gallbladders removed. So I did know that gallbladders get removed. Like, there's a problem with your gallbladder? It's coming out. Apparently, we don't need it.
So here's a I I think Ian landsman just talked to he I think he just posted he needs to get it out.
Oh, really?
So here here's the crazy part. Right? So he's been doing this Ian also
in our fantasy field bully. Just every time we talk about someone who's in the fantasy field bully, I'm gonna call it out. Dax, also not in the fantasy field bully. Sorry. Continue.
I'm not it. So he's this doctor has been doing this for 50 years. He's never had a bad
result. Never. Wow. That's amazing. Imagine if we were that good at our jobs. Like, if we had never shipped a bug Yeah. To production.
Never messed up. Wow.
I took production down yesterday, literally. Well, I
didn't really
do it, but it was my team. I mean, it was us. We did it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's like, I mean, like, think about pilots. Like, every pilot that you see I was on a plane once when it was the last flight for this captain,
and they did all, like
you've done that the
whole, like, fire trucks,
shooting the they just did
it shoot the
fire hose. Yeah. The at the arriving airport, they're, like, shooting a bunch of fire trucks lined up, shooting the fire hose up in the air like a big arch. It was amazing. The his whole family was on the plane. It's like this crazy moment that you're getting to experience.
Yeah.
He think, like, he's never he's never crashed a plane. He wouldn't be here. Like, he's he's flown for 35 years and never never
did the thing. Well, it worked out.
Nailed it.
Yeah. I mean, that that's also similar what we're talking about because when I was on a plane, coming up from Spain uh-huh. That rhymes. The rain in Spain mostly falls in the plane.
Wait. What? Is that a thing?
Yeah. It's a thing.
Different into Spain. Sorry. I don't know that one.
So he was, just coming back from Barcelona. And this is just like I think he had, like, 2 other flights, but this is his last flight from Barcelona. And he's like, I've been doing this route since, like, the eighties. Wow. And, like, he's been flying back and forth from Barcelona and Miami Crazy. For, like, 30 plus 30, 40 years. And he's like, yeah. Imagine, like, you just see the city change over time. Like, every day, he's just there. And then the next day, you're in Miami.
The next day, you're in Barcelona, and you're students for super, super long. And he has really amazing speech about, like, like, thanking the city and, like, seeing it change and, like, actually vacationing there and, like, beginning to experience, like, you know, all the culture and all that. And it's Yeah. This is a very normal American guy that just every other day was in Barcelona. That's wild. Decades. So mind blowing.
Like, would you have a home there? If you just were, like, dedicated to I'm gonna do this route. Because with seniority in the airlines, like, you can kinda, like if you're you've been there a long time, you can just choose your thing and know you're gonna keep doing that thing forever. Like, would you have a home there? Or would or no? You just stay at a hotel every single time?
Well, it's funny because he was saying his daughter studied abroad there, and then he, like, picked her up and she
That's wild.
Yeah. Just like this thing that's so crazy, is going to the other side of the planet just becomes your day to day, like, casual
thing. That is actually surprising to me. I'm not a pilot, so I don't know the psychology here. Maybe it's, like, just an enjoyable route, but I would think I'd wanna do different things, like, day to day, week to week. I can't imagine being, like, I wanna do this exact same flight for the rest of my career. It just sounds so, like I don't know.
Yeah. I'm just saying it. It's depressing to me. Some some of these things are like that. Like, it's the same thing every single day. Yeah. And people do it. But
Some people might like that. They might like the routine of it. They just have, like, spice and variety in other areas of life, just not their job.
Can are puds allowed to, like, listen to podcasts or watch TV?
Surely. Right? I think so. My brother is a pilot for Delta. I'll ask him. I don't know. Can they just, like yeah. Can they watch Apple TV on their iPad?
Because I do think about some of these, like, jobs where it's routine and kinda mundane. And I wonder, can you just become, like, the world's expert on something just because you have so much time.
You have so much time? Oh, that's a good point. Like, truck drivers. I mean, that for sure, they can just listen to whatever.
But they could read every book ever. They could they could be, like, the most well read person
Yeah.
In the world.
Why don't they? Maybe maybe someone has.
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised.
I wanna say something, but I'm not gonna say it. It's gonna
Don't go insulting to truck drivers. The backbone.
No. It wasn't it wasn't gonna be an insult to truck drivers. There's more never mind. Just sometimes I just know better. The the truck driving thing, that just reminds me.
I just heard something the other day about we've talked about full self driving and that whole situation. I heard something on a podcast, I think, about, like, what it could do to our economy. Like, the number one job for males in America is driving. And if, like, truck drivers get replaced with autonomous cars that can just drive across the country, that's crazy, actually. But will they actually make a huge difference, or will it just be, like, a whole generation that doesn't sign up for that job and does something else?
I don't know. What these are the economics. They're, like, so hard to predict. And and and, like, I think with the truck driving one, they also point out the cascading effects. Like, there's so many businesses that service these routes.
Like truck stops.
Yeah. Truck stops, like diners, like, all the all the different things.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's okay. It was completely random. When I would drive and a bunch of people are gonna know exactly what I'm talking about because they've done this. When I used to drive from New York to Miami
Spain to oh, okay. Sorry. You're in Lisbon, by the way. No.
Adam, Spain is across the ocean. Oh, yeah. I
can't drive. Yeah. Yeah. Like, the Bering Strait or something? I don't know. Continue.
That's the other way. Okay. There's this there's this rest stop called South of the Border, and it's so random. It is like a it's like a theme park almost. That's like Mexican themed. It just like But
it's not in Mexico. It's
not south of any border. South of South is it when you enter South Carolina? I forgot where it was. There's, like, some it's, like, right on the border between 2 states. Yeah. It's just like this big random business that is, like, kinda like a theme park. They actually never stopped there because that we'd always be there too late. Yeah. But everyone sees it on the way. And they yeah.
Like, for truck drivers are stopping there all the time, and if that goes away, south of the border is gonna have to shut down.
So rest stops is an interesting topic because I've driven some pretty long, like, South Florida to Missouri. Some states, like Florida, has really nice really nice rest stops. Like, there'll be, like, these giant complexes. It's like a shopping mall.
Florida is absurd with with highway stuff. It's,
it's wild.
Because you can see it when, so when we do the drive, the moment we cross from Georgia to Florida, everything's completely different. Like, the highway there, it's better. And, like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Florida goes crazy. I mean, Florida just has a lot of money. So Oh,
they have a lot of money. Is that the tourism? Just the Yeah.
Yeah. Just I mean, a lot of
charge state income tax, so they make up so much money from just the people coming in.
They they only charge consumption taxes. So whenever you're spending money in Florida, you're paying taxes, whether it's property or idea.
I feel like that's a good idea.
And a lot of money is spent in Florida. Like, a lot of money is spent in Florida, so they're getting a percentage off of that if it ends up working out. Every state can't do that. Now it's the thing is the reason it's not a good idea is, you might have come across this, but let's say you'd get rid of income tax and you only tax on what you spend. That seems like a good system because you're like, if you're someone that doesn't spend a lot, you get taxed a lot.
So you imagine people that are not like you know, don't have a lot of money and they're not blowing their money. But if you don't make a lot of money, you spend a 100% of your money. So a 100% of your income is tax.
Oh, I see. So it's actually worse for low earners. Yeah.
It's worse. It's it's called regressive taxes. It's it's worse for people that make
less money. Okay. Counterintuitive. Counterintuitive. That is counterintuitive. Because I've had this thought before. Like, why don't we all just,
yeah, do the note? But that's that's how it works in Florida.
So So why okay. I'm trying to think of the other states that are no income tax. I guess a lot of people spend money in Texas. That kind of interest.
Nevada, I think. Yeah.
Nevada, the gambling, I guess.
And Washington.
Why Washington? Why would there be no is Wyoming a no state income tax? Do you ever just forget a state exists? The other day, I was telling Casey something about Yeah.
They're called flyover states. Is that
what it is? Okay. Well Missouri. Yeah. Missouri. I get it. I would forget that one too if I didn't live here. But Idaho. I was telling Casey about something about, like, a nice area in Idaho or I think it was Idaho. And she was like Boise? No. It wasn't Boise. Some place in the mountains where they have that billionaire retreat. Anyway, I was saying something about Idaho, and she was like she thought I was talking about Ohio or Iowa. We're not sure.
She was like, not thinking it was somewhere out west. And I realized, like, yeah, she just didn't remember Idaho exists, and why would she? It's like there's 50 of them. Like, we we don't have to think about these states ever.
Yeah. I mean, it it if you had to, like, if you had to name every state from memory, it's probably pretty hard.
Oh, yeah. That's tough.
If you
had to draw where it's at too. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
So income tax. State's about income tax. Alaska, New Hampshire, Texas, Florida, South Dakota, Washington, Nevada, Tennessee, and Wyoming. So you're right.
But there's no way a lot of people spending the money in South Dakota. There's just no way. There's not a lot of people in South Dakota.
It's it's just prime.
Yeah. Just prime. Okay. So I I don't understand. Good thing I'm not an economist. Good thing I'm not in charge of any of this because Well,
so hang on. South Dakota, ton of oil. Right? Oh, really? Learned something new? Oil production there.
I don't
know if it's still the case, but historically.
Interesting. Didn't know this.
Alaska, also oil.
Okay. I just realized I don't care. I don't I mostly don't care about any of these states.
Just move to one of them and stop paying taxes out.
There you go. The state taxes, I guess. It is crazy that people live in California. I remember Nikita tweet that was like, it's crazy that people spend 13% tax in California and only get to be outside 200% more and or something like that. It's like, is that literally it? Do people just live in California because it's nice weather?
Well, I mean, it is a very nice place, beautiful, nice place to live in a lot of ways. But it just sad because I may, like, mess it up in a lot of other ways that make it really unpleasant that aren't necessary. But well, yeah. Yeah. He's always tweeting about that, but Florida's a the counter to everything he says because it has no Yeah. No. No.
It has. But it's also a different kind of nice. Like, South Florida is warm, but, like
Yeah. It's not as nice as California. Yeah. The humidity talk about being outside.
Yeah. We this is the thing that's very important to Casey and I. We're trying to figure out how we can spend more time outside, and it the Ozarks are very humid. Did you know that they measure humidity, like, the official, like, scientific tiers? Have you seen this?
Yes. I have. But you really have to go to a place to understand what the climate is like because, yes, Miami is humid, but we're we're by the ocean, and there's a constant breeze all the time. Yes. That's Way, way, way less it's way more pleasant to be here than Orlando, which is just 4 hours north. But they're, like, a little bit inside from the village is not as close. Yeah. It's like a it's like a 90 day difference between how pleasant
it is. So so we don't have the breeze. We're in the hills, and it's just like trees, and it's stagnant. And it's it's disgusting. It's actually the top two tiers are miserable. That's literally the top tier. It's, like, over 80% humidity is called miserable. And, the one below that, like, 60 to 80 is oppressive. That's so funny. Impressively humid today. It's miserable humid. I just say it about time now. I'm like, it's miserable outside, scientifically speaking.
Scientifically, yeah. But here's the thing. This is just a me thing. I don't mind the humidity.
Really? Yeah. So this is your Indian heritage.
I think so. Yeah. I think my my genes have just been made for this. This whole summer, I continue to work out outside, and it's been Really? Like the worst of the worst it gets, and I've been working outside. And, yeah, I dump, like, a bucket of sweat. It's, like, crazy. Yeah. Like, I'm like I'm just, like, covered. Yeah. Later sweat. But, like, it's it's fine.
Yeah. It's funny. I'm like, I don't go outside in the summer here because it's just disgusting, and I don't wanna get
Or the winter because it's
cold. Or the winter because it's cold. Yeah. I don't wanna go outside. But then I'll get in the sauna and the cold plunge because, like, if it's on my turn
exact it's the exact it's different
if I choose it. You know what I mean?
That is funny. Yeah. So
I find that
I don't think there's a month here where I've been, like, I'm gonna spend less time outside. Ironically
Wow.
The one the one time it's kinda true is, like, in January where it gets cold. And by cold,
I mean, it
gets, like, 60 degrees.
I love South Florida in the winter.
It's beautiful. No. Here's why I hate it. I'm so used to just being able to wake up and go outside, and then I I go to do that and I feel horrible. I'm like, hey. I have to, like, think about what to put on, and, like, my brain just does not it just doesn't work. I'm saying, I'm not I'm not gonna
You told me this before that you hate having to put a shirt on to go out inside. You're such a
loaded man. Cats right now.
Oh, it's funny.
The other day, I was here's a before I have to jump off, here's a funny little tidbit. So I was in my office, and I was just in my box. There's nothing else. And I had to go to the bathroom, but my cleaning lady was at in the house. Oh, no. And I was like, oh, no. Like, and I I I just hope to bring the bird, and she was like, alright. The other side of it is close And this is Liz being, like, hey. Can you bring me a a a shirt? Because I I don't wanna be weird.
But then I looked into my closet, and it was in my closet. Either it's Theo or Mark or someone left a tin, honey. Here. Nice. And it's in the closet in my own
I slipped on it. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Thanks, Ping. Thanks, Theo. Alright. You gotta go out for a phone call.
Yeah. Yeah.
Let's take let's take a quick break until next, next week. Next week. Alright. See you next. See you.