The One With Will Carling

Alex and Mike are joined by the former England skipper Will Carling for a wide ranging conversation about the game. From national team captaincy at 22, to World Cup Finals, tears, tantrums, Jonah Lomu, 57 old farts, Lions' disappointments, going into hiding, and what it means to really love the game, this is one episode you won't want to miss.

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