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HMP 224: Fall Preview, Dark Harvest, Totally Killer, Saw X, Exorcist: Believer and more

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Welcome to HORROR MOVIE PODCAST, where we’re Dead Serious About Horror Movies…


Episode 224 is our Fall Movie preview where Victor, Nathan and Trey look at the new horror movies, shows and games being released from October through December. 


Matt Rawlings also joins the gang to review the new Blumhouse comedy thriller Totally Killer, now streaming on Amazon Prime.


Then we review the new horror movie from David Slade, the long delayed Halloween spook fest Dark Harvest. 


Nathan covers 3 mini reviews for Exorcist Believer, Saw X and the horror anthology Satanic Hispanics. 


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Also, please subscribe to our show for free on Apple Podcasts and leave us a review! It really helps our visibility. Or just tell a friend. We’d really appreciate it.


Link to the Horror Writers of America interview with Victor Rodriguez: 


https://vhrodriguez.wordpress.com/2023/10/12/interview-with-hwa/


Links:

Nathan Bartlebaugh:

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Vicious Victor:

Follow me on Twitter or IG so we can talk about horror movies: @dimestorecaesar


Visit my website for free-to-read fiction, interviews, and links to my latest short fiction releases: https://vhrodriguez.wordpress.com/

Read my first collection THE SOUND OF FEAR: https://a.co/d/14rHPS1

Check out my supplementary podcast INSIDE THE SOUND OF FEAR: https://share.transistor.fm/s/b467629c


Trey Whetstone

Screaming Through the Ages Podcast - https://screaming-through-the.captivate.fm/

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Facebook Group - https://m.facebook.com/groups/319316706773860/


Jackson Rawlings (Father and Son Watch Horror Movies Podcast)

Twitter - @Kaine_Hero12


Velocipastor

Twitter - @PastorMattR

Website - https://fatherandsonwatchhorror.com/

 

Bill Van Veghel:

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https://letterboxd.com/billhorrorguy/

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Transcript

일이ious simultaneously. Hi and welcome to horror movie podcasts where we're dead serious about horror movies. I'm one of your hosts Nathan Bartleball and I am joined tonight by almost all of our co-hosts. We have Trey Wetzdon, Trey, how are you doing tonight? I'm doing great Nathan and we also have Victor Rodriguez, Victor, how are you? Hello sir, doing good. Good to be back. Yes, back we are back and we also have with us

Matt, Pastor Matt Rawlings, Matt, how are you doing? Well as I told you before we started recording I just finished watching Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey and unfortunately I quit drinking and there's no liquor in the house so that's how I'm doing. Oh bother, bother. Well yeah let's I get out of tangent. Let's not go down that poo hole. Anyway so yeah we're back it's October. If you're listening to this this is one of two new episodes it just dropped and we we did have a little

bit of a hiatus there. We're getting our ducks in a row or whatever horror movie podcasts gets in a row, tombstones and we are we've got a whole slate of things

coming out for October. Knock on wood but I think that we've got episodes that'll be releasing every week and we'll have a couple of them every week because we're trying to get out specific sort of Halloween related spooky season related stuff which we'll talk about in a moment but what we've got for you this show is we've got a fall preview that covers everything from October into up through December. So some of the movies that you hear us talking about we're

about to review now. So you might hear us talking about how we're excited to

see them. You're gonna hear the reviews for those now. I've got a couple of individual reviews that I'll provide for some movies that I've seen but before we do that we got a cool opportunity to see a movie that I've been very curious about for a few years because it seems like every year for about the past two years there's been a build up to it being released and then it drops off of the radar and that is dark harvest David Slade's new movie David Slade

who of course did movies like Hard Candy and 30 days of night. We won't talk about that toy light movie that he directed but we got a chance to we were sent a screener I want to say up front to review the film and Victor myself and Trey will be reviewing that shortly it is going to release I believe at the end of this week so I think it drops on Friday the 13th and so it'll be streaming so you'll be able to see it through streaming I don't think it's in

theaters I don't know if it's playing maybe in limited release but it's going to be primarily digital to rent so we'll talk all about that but before that we did all get to see a movie that is currently streaming on prime a brand new movie and it's totally killer and Matt got to see that one as well so we'll go ahead review that first and then after we have our reviews we can hear a fall preview and we have an entire review of the last season of Black Mirror

which is most of you know is sort of dark sci-fi but the last season sort of mixed things up a bit and gave us a over half of the content was legitimately horror so you'll get to hear that full review at the end of this episode so let's go ahead and get started Matt since you're here for just a little bit do

you want to set up totally killer for us? Sure so totally killer is a Blumhouse production that just dropped to prime star is Kirin Schimpkiss I believe her name is and she and Julie Bowen are the only two people I recognized in the cast and it took me a minute to recognize Karen Schimpkiss

but then it hit me madman she was the draper's daughter and madman but it's set in modern black coats daughter okay so but so it's set in modern day I believe the town is called Vernon and so it's a town that's kind of haunted by the fact that in 1987 there were I believe three murders where three

different teenage girls were stabbed 16 times one on her 16th birthday and this town has been dealing with this ever since and Karen Schimpkiss's mother knew the girls that were killed it appears that the killer has come back Karen Schimpkiss gets sent back to 1987 because this is kind of like back to the future meets the final girls if I could kind of summarize it that way and she gets sent back to 1987 with her 2023 sensibilities but with a white jacket

that I couldn't decide if it was from Camp Bimey Love or Ferris Bueller's Day off and and and encounters her mother as a as a teenager and is trying to protect her and her friends from the serial killer would you say that and the

serial killer by the way is a masked killer who you know I don't know how you would describe the mask other than it looks like a headroom yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah kind of a yeah kind of a Walgreens max headroom I guess that's a good way to put it yeah a mask who's coming after people and so

that's pretty much the setup I think that does it or what you guys add to that no no I think that's a good good setup Matt and first and foremost definitely probably a lot of comedy in this one but I was gonna say right off the bat we're in October how about that Halloween feel at the beginning of this and that first little scene I feel like that was pretty good yeah you've got the trick or treaters and you know the mom Julie Bowen who most people recognize

from modern family or maybe from happy Gilmore or whatever she's the mom and she's getting she's passing out trick or treat candy and of course enough time has passed that the killer's mask has become kind of ubiquitous every other person seems to be wearing one and of course there is a guy is doing a true crime podcast and and so you've got all that going on on either if it's not on Halloween night it's around it yeah the 27th okay and so yeah it's a it's a

good you know it's a very good kind of Halloween feel even though I didn't recognize the rest of the cast with the exception of the dad I think he was in Freddie versus Jason yes Locklum and Ro okay he's not quite a scary movie dead man on campus okay okay they're the only ones I recognize but I still thought the cast was pretty good yeah yeah and I would say to I feel like what's pulling at this one is a lot of that you know 80s versus modern day kids and

so yeah I think that's at the core of this one but I don't think I don't know how you guys felt but I don't think it was trying to take a stand saying one was better than the other or anything I did see someone reviewing this and said they can't wait to show the this to their kids to show them they didn't what they missed out on in the 80s or something or maybe give them an accurate idea of how the 80s were but I thought a lot of that stuff was done really

well it was pretty funny yeah I thought it was funny and I mean it's one of those things where yeah I'm I'm pretty sure I don't know if he's done it or not like if I sat my sundown and his girlfriend and played like like a Sam Kinnison you know stand-up special from 1986 or 87 their heads might

explode that's true yeah but you know this was you know a lot of cocaine jokes yes a lot of cocaine well yeah and that's the least offensive but you know you know she she travels back in time she gets to 1987 and like the first guy she encounters is at this amusement park that by the time in 2023 it kind of looks like you know an amusement park from Scooby-Doo but you know it's it's thriving in 1987 and the first guy she sees has a shirt that says federal

boob inspector so yeah she's constantly saying things like that is an unwanted touch yes yeah what is the lady she meets at the side she says something like the 80s are almost over and I haven't even done coke and she turns around to the kids they don't know kids are like in strollers yeah it definitely it taps into some of that excess of the 80s for sure it definitely is but I think like you said right it really is going for the back to the future vibe

which is essentially just that parents and kids don't quite ever understand the golf that's between the times they grew up in you know you can explain it verbally and you're a different person by the time you have kids you have different responsibilities so they see you in a different way and that's what happens here I didn't want to get into too much of what she encounters when she goes back but her mom's different than she expected I really enjoyed the movie I

think it was a lot of fun I I will say that I think you know freaky is definitely gonna come into play here I think you know the final girls also probably the happy death day movies the thing about all of those I don't know how you guys felt while there is definitely Gore and there's definitely a slasher component to this movie I definitely felt that the overall visual look of the movie did tend more towards not feeling like a horror film did you feel that

at all like when the killing scenes were happening they were there but there was kind of a certain spookiness just in the in the in the the vibe of the of the world but this was almost even more cheerful than you would see you know this this could have it's certain points you could feel you're watching like a Disney Channel movie or something like just in the terms of the actual way it was shot and everything or you know one of these 80s comedies well I

think the director was the creator of like fresh off the boat and all that kind of stuff so I think she she came over directly from TV so that would make sense right and that's not a criticism it's just sort of an observation because I think what that does is it sort of disarms you for a while because the movie does deal a lot with like the mystery and also the time machine so I'll get to that in a moment but it has a lot of plot mechanics going on in

between the kills so when the kills happen you suddenly remind it oh wow this is a horror movie because they're pretty brutal I mean comparatively they're not like don't go and expecting to see you know this is not terrifying but when people are getting stabbed they're getting stabbed we have the MO is that the killer stabs his victims since teen times so it's like you know right to be pretty brutal whereas the final girls was a PG 13 so a lot of that stuff ended

up off screen you know it was still funny it was a good movie but then you're you're sort of thrown into the kills I like the kills I thought Keirnin Shipco was really what makes the movie I think her reactions to everything she's got a great sense of comedic timing and she's also a really good actress so she internalizes a lot of things and she carries an emotional poignancy to things even when there's not a lot of that going on I know that final girls was very

much about that mother daughter relationship in a certain sense this is a little different and it you're not going to quite get that because the mother daughter connection isn't there and I was a little surprised that she doesn't interact with those characters more you know a particularly given a sort of revelation towards the end of the movie where I thought that would have been an opportunity to juxtapose the parents and the daughter maybe a little bit more than they do I

thought the movie was funny it clipped right along it was a good time one thing I thought hampered it just a little bit is in some of these other movies freaky and happy death day they don't get bogged down in why the weird event is happening right so happy death they she repeats the day and freaky they body swap in one of those is it straight up like dark magic right and in the other one we don't even know why in the first film and then the second movie gets bogged

down and trying to explain why it happened but here when they introduce the idea of building the time machine and everything it gets a little clunky because you're you're trying to think okay these kids no one everyone's concerned about the killer no one seems that impressed that this kid just built

a time machine you know before they're like for their like school project it's just an aside I've got a time machine we can fix this and you're like what it's like P body insure man you know so I there's a point when when you open that it's like I can still go along with it but it does it it slows the movie down a little bit because I'm sitting there thinking the kids have built a time machine and it's inside of a tilted world but overall I had a good time yeah yeah

absolutely I did too and we've talked about all of the not to jump ahead or anything but we've talked about all the movies this year that have kind of failed to stick the landing I thought the ending was pretty excellent and I thought like kind of lied the way that it wrapped up and I'm not gonna get any details or anything but I think it had a pretty nice bow put on it there at the very end yeah be sure to don't let your Amazon Prime kick you off be sure to stay for at

least the first like three minutes of the credits or whatever it was but no I I hear what you're saying you know Nathan but I still had a blast with it oh it's just an observation more than a real criticism no but I hear what you're saying but I just you know my my petty being born in 1972 being 15 in 1987 what I was doing on a on a Sunday afternoon watching it was complaining about things like wait a minute it's 1987 nobody was listening to Shannon's let

them music play in 1987 yeah and this is like the second movie of with that 80s thing where they dig have it like a almost a pseudo montage to under the Milky Way tonight yes it's just like oh come on it's like 87 in a small town

it was all white snake baby in 1987 here I got you know here I go again you know it was things like that and then they all wanted who in 1987 was still dressing like Molly Ringwald well that might be she's got some movies was anyone dressing like Molly been well ever I question that what was coming

out in 87 with Molly Ringwald Betsy's wedding the pickup artist I mean come on well I saw that as part of the joke because the you know she kind of makes one of her mom in the beginning when she says I'm dressed as Molly Ringwald because

she says I don't know what you're not dressing up this year so I took that as kind of part of the joke that they all did oh it was a joke I'm just saying I want I want I'm pitching tray that I want to be higher doesn't 80s consultant for these future I thought it was a different word you said I am

pitching I lived through it darn it I was a teenager in the 80s and I was a teenager in a small town until I moved L.A. and 88 so I I want accuracy darn it so no that makes sense because I've done that with 90s stuff before too like hey that song didn't come out then so I get it yeah well it's like the back of the future thing everyone's like I haven't seen that movie yet really in 1987 if you're not everybody seen back to the future at that point that point back to

the future is being over-saturated on television in the 1997 so but you know those things always happen they've never seen a horror movie they do they don't go with the like the screen meta thing because where do they go as you know as the as the daughter who's time travel what does she say it was like and you went to your horse hiding from a killer and you go to a cabin in the woods oh yeah she said it was like a condo or something like that yeah and then I don't know

what you felt there's a later revelation in the film that I thought was good because you're sitting there trying to guess the killer and you know I'm usually the person it's like that's the killer and it proceeds to be the killer but they had a they had some interesting kind of twists on that I won't see anymore but there's a certain revelation that sort of does cast light on on her mother and that group of friends and I thought that instead of being almost a throwaway

moment that's really just a plot device to set something else up I thought that really could have been something akin to when he shows up in the back to the future and realizes that his mother and his you know his father's just a dud that can't get it and self-degouther and stand up for himself you know when he realizes the situation and how it's just perpetuated itself it seemed to me there could have been a more interesting way to really have some energy

between the mother and the daughter with that revelation but they kind of just you know I was surprised when it happened I'm like oh this is gonna go in a different direction and I think they could have done more with that so yeah agreed but I you know overall I don't want to nitpick and I well I will continue to nitpick things from the 80s that they did wrong for business you can Wikipedia that crap but I um but that all that being said the year you

know we were talking before we started recording about this year and what kind of year it's been compared to let's face it we've been spoiled the last couple years yeah with a number of truly great horror movies and this year we've had a

lot of good horror movies but not necessarily ones we're going to rush out to buy when they drop to Blu-ray or 4k or or whatever there's been a lot of movies there like a six and we've had a lot of and I know people hate this phrase elevated horror this year that I've seen and to have something like

this or a movie like the blackening which I watched this week that's just pure fun for horror fans I think is is great to have yeah I think we've had several of those this year yeah I think that's what kind of rises to the top when you don't have a lot else or the movies you have fun with and this is one of the better ones and I think a lot of that is down to Keirnon Shipka she's she's really good I thought she was good when she was on Sabrina and in madmen like

you mentioned that and again the black coat's daughter which is a more serious horror film but she's got real comedic chops that I don't think I fully appreciated until this all this film and the other thing about this and I think I think this was said when freaky came out the final girls came out these are movies that you know we talk about Gateway Horror movies for kids well these are the Gateway Horror movies for people that aren't necessarily children but

maybe aren't into horror movies that much you know if you've got a significant other all all my horror loving friends who have wives that don't like horror I'm like hey totally killer just came out I think you can get I think you can get your wife to watch this one with you this is a movie I could I could have shown to my wife and I think she would have thought it's a lot it's a lot of fun there was there was a little too much adult humor for me to show it to the

kids I watched it first because my kids saw it and saw the trailer and they've seen the happy death thing maybe we said like dad can we watch this Mackay I don't know so and after watching was like that's a no yeah yeah yeah yeah it's how older I mean I don't know there are 11 and 9 so just a little

yeah it's a lot of awkward it's funny I'm not worried about like Nightmares I'm not worried about the the Gore I'm worried about having to answer awkward questions about oral sex and amusement park yeah that is changed though she goes I think we're taking the run is so good yeah that is such a good oh just just the looks on her face I could have a flipbook of just her expression reaction expressions and that would be I would probably give that the same

rating as this movie it's a lot of fun it's a highly recommended by me I give it a 7.5 yeah I'm right there with you it's a 7.5 for me and it might creep up a little bit on rewatch maybe it's hovering around the yeah I think just like you guys were saying it's it really depends on who you're with like if you if you want to watch a Halloween set horror movie with someone who's not super into being scared then it's probably gonna go up a couple of notches because

that's true you're stuck for both of you to enjoy and yeah I mean you guys listening I mean if you're like us and you've seen practically every Halloween set movie out there well here's a new one and it's not bad so check it out yeah yeah I'd come in around I think an aid I'm a little higher than you guys I I really like the Christopher Landon movies and I was shocked to see he's not at least producing this or had to have any involvement yeah warm house because

it has those elements from happy death day and from freaky I think and he had a movie come out this year I still haven't seen I saw it's on Netflix oh yeah we have a few people have have reviewed it but I thought it made it kind of turn me off of that one a little bit I think it's okay it's it's it's it's it's fun but it's not a it's not a horror movie it involves a ghost but it's not a horror movie really any stretch of the imagination and it almost feels kind of

sitcom me like it's it's not bad but it's like it was to me it felt like a fact I forgot it existed until you just mentioned it and has one of those Netflix movie the week sort of feels to it you know where just here's the latest movie and you'll forget it by the end of next week and I love David Harbor and I love Christopher Lane and there were things about it I really enjoy but it just I don't know it didn't quite come come to life for me I was just shocked

that that was I hadn't heard anything about it it was a Christopher Landon film but I was also shocked that he didn't have something to do with this because about a half hour in I thought for sure that he had to be at least a

producer or that movie coming out called it's a wonderful knife I thought I like again I thought and that's got what's his name just in long in it but yeah so Victor did you see this one yeah yeah I think you guys pretty much said it all but yeah that seems to be the current Blumhouse formula for

success is I don't know if I really I hesitate to say this but I don't know if I really consider these horror movies they're more comedies with Gore in them but but everything you guys said was right on like the the the kills are pretty visceral so yeah I wouldn't be in a rush to show this to kids but but yeah like you guys said if you have a significant other that's not super into horror but more like appreciates thrillers then they'll probably dig this but it's

mainly comedy I thought the same thing with Megan freaky happy death day all the other movies you guys mentioned I think that they're they're funny first and then they do horror things enough to keep the horror people satisfied their comedy is playing with horror movie tropes is really what they are yeah exactly and yeah totally killer was directed by Nanachka Khan who did fresh off the boat sit calm that I really loved and yeah I think I'm just kind of sad

since that that show was so big on the 90s I'm kind of sad this wasn't set in the 90s because I don't think there are enough 90s and it could have been I think I don't understand why they yeah and then I wouldn't have been able to complain about the music because I I didn't really care for music that I would be that I would be nitpicking the 90s because that's not melon was not out in 1990 that's right yeah it's pretty good it's it's enjoyable it's quick

paste and yeah Kiernan Shipkin Kiernan Shipka's good performance as usual so see it you know seven out of 10 for me okay so we're all in the same right solid solid movie the the 2023 stamp of approval solid movie yeah exactly that's not

too bad exactly it's not the outwaters but I yeah thank thank heavens not a movie we've refued here and I have no intention after after watching when either poo blood blood and honey I may turn totally killer on again tonight it might go up to a 10 after that your brain yeah yeah you know the

honey year that it's been that I think I would I wouldn't be surprised to see that movie totally killer on some end of the year lists I might break some pencils if it's a blood and honey on any end don't underestimate our friend Greg and Morty to eat their own to eat their own yeah so that's that is

totally killer it's available right now on Amazon Prime and Matt I think you're leaving us right not not sorry that's a more more epileptic I believe you guys to continue the discussion I do just want to say yeah we've got as you said Nathan we got a lot more coming and and hopefully

this will be dropping in and around Friday the 13th I do want to well first of all happy birthday to Dave Becker and Pearl because I don't need Friday 13th yeah Pearl Morgan and Dave Becker have birthdays yeah but also I get these emails all the time and I encourage people to do it camp crystal lake tours if you just google that for the next Friday the 13th you can get enter their lottery and if you win it's it's about 300 350 bucks but you get to go to Camp

Nobi Bosco where they film the original Friday the 13th you get to spend the day there and it is private property so you can't just go out in the middle of Western New Jersey and walk on anytime you want even though apparently Dave's he did but was he dressed as a trash can I don't know I have no idea that's that's all I know I like to imagine him tiptoeing and like an ass rubber something yeah but if you go it's well work because all the money goes to the boy Scouts who

run the camp so it all goes the boy Scouts for the camp and it's a great great day you can spend half the day touring the site and you can spend the other half the day hanging with the guests who are there when I was there it was having

premarital sex and getting murdered yes exactly there was Tom Savini Adrian King for some reason Tom McLaughlin the director of part six was there until they chased him away until they chased him away he didn't stay the whole day Harry man for Dini was there there were a couple people there and then

at the end of the day everybody gathers by the lake and they set up an outside theater and they show the original movie on the beach where the final fight takes place so so for your next Friday 13 is too late to do it now listeners Google that it's worth the money if you can do it especially if you're in like the tri state area New York New Jersey connect yeah you should go for it because it's a great day and all the money goes to a good cause yeah I'm

surprised they still limit that to a lottery I mean there's something to be said about supply and demand but you think they'd be be doing that more well it's it's actually fairly small and so they can only take so many yeah because otherwise any guy people bust some people back and forth yeah and

they go place to bust them I mean that that place is in the middle of nowhere and I will say this there is no cell phone coverage then you get kids getting drowned from real and their moms going a murderous rampage well one of the reasons they locked it down one of the counselors told me was that

early after just a few years after the movie had been filmed and it kind of got out somewhere that that's where they filmed it they had people sneaking in at night parting somebody burned down one of the cabins trying to set a fire and it and then on top of that years later sometime in the 90s somebody tried to baptize their child in the place where Jason drowned was it you Matt no no no yeah I did not become a person of faith till 1997 this was the mid 90s I think

it's still questionable that person trying to baptize a person of faith but well yeah but but it's well worth it it's it's a fun time so for your next Friday of 13th if you can do it I would recommend it and with that happy Friday 13th let me really quick Matt let's just let's see if we could do this super quick right at the top of your head because this this counts as our Friday 13th we're doing something for Friday 13th your favorite Friday 13th movie

part two part two okay part one is what part one is I mean it is yeah I don't think it's a particularly well-written film I think there's a reason why Victor Miller ended up writing for soap operas the rest of his life because I mean

you've got things like a supposedly a teenage Kevin Bacon trying to get Miss girlfriend's pants by giving her a meteorology report I mean it's there some weird things in that screenplay but in part two I think part two scarier I think it's actually really frightening I think that hillbilly

sackhead Jason is a lot scarier than then WWE hockey mask Jason and I think Amy still is the best final girl in the series I think she's fantastic in it and so I just think it's a much better film I think it's one of the best horse sequels ever yeah definitely scary I mean that's the only one I would really cite as being scary I think oh I saw it when I hit cable in like 82 83 and I was like 10 or 11 it scared the cron I think I'm busted through there at the

end like the cool eight man oh yeah but mine is part four I think part four is like where it legitimately it's a good movie like there you know I think you can make it fun it's a lot of fun and it's the one where there's really you get to know that the teens pretty well it's like a John Hughes movie walked in and gets massacred well and that's what I would force probably my number two Nathan I would agree because I think that what sets and I heard Brian Fuller

say something to this effect and Brian Fuller of course who did Hannibal was a huge Friday 13th fan he's doing Camp Crystal Lake the series for peacock and

he was on the L.I. Ross history of horror if you go to the podcast which is uncensored he talks about his love Friday 13th and he says that he loves two and four because the teenagers are not just you know machete fodder they are people that you come to really like and a lot of them are people you really know like Ted in part two the red headed guy yeah you know everybody's known a Ted right you know Ted automatically and so that's one of the reasons I love

two and four is because they're not just annoying people you can't wait to get chopped up and I think for kind of dispels that myth too that you know people particularly like kind of people looking back on the horror films point out that oh well they were really kind of moral because it's you know the person who has sex first gets murdered I look at it differently part four is more like hey get out there do as much as this as you can because you don't know when

you're gonna get killed that's right I mean you think a lot of those people they died they died happy Trish Trish didn't get a party and she's got a PTSD to show for you know right right what does Laurie Strode get for surviving that's right she got a couple of toaks off a joint before they ran into the sheriff dad and that's it yeah so anyway Victor do you have a favorite yeah I I agree with Matt I think that Friday 13th part two is the best horror movie of the bunch but my

personal favorite is part six yes it's it's like all the other movies with your foot slammed down on the accelerate like everything that like the girls yeah yeah exactly if you've heard things about the Friday 13th series part six is probably what you want like that's that's got like really good highlights of extreme excitement except the one thing it doesn't have as nudity so if that's the thing you're after yeah that's true they kind of put a kibosh on a lot of

that and that's the only one I've been able to show my kids because the the violence is a little more goofy right thing about six and I I grew with you and Victor having just watched most of these for the first time like last year via that screen factory set I noticed that's the one where some you get the horror flurses like of the gothic horror flurses you get the cemetery in the middle of the night the lightning and the and the comedy is up the anti and he's

bending people together like their exercise equipment good could you blame Tom McLaughlin I mean if you get if you get that assignment where else are you gonna go with it I think you took I think he did one of the best of the jobs yeah absolutely and those great the scene of like the kid reading like is he reading like Sarterra or something like that like on his chest he's got the book or no exit that's what he's reading he's really no exit and it's the

only movie that I know of those of the series that has kids at the camp yes there and then when that Jason is coming towards the the cabins and the one little boy under the bed turns a little boy says so what did you want to be when you grew up when Tom McLaughlin was at Camp Novi Bosco he told the story he kept the headstone Jason where he's headstone and he put it in his backyard and he had a meter man freak out he went into his backyard and saw the tombstone

back there perfect that is perfect and Trey how about you Jason X I knew I was literally about to say Jason X is and we have the same dad humor here it's a really Jason X it's part two it's part two I'd love to continue your multiples of two there and go with eight but that's one of the two that I haven't seen yet so Jason X is flying its own way it's not a good movie but it's yeah well gentlemen thank you so much for the time I hope you guys have a great Friday

13th and rest of the spooky season so I will be a do you a do take care Matt thanks for joining see you guys okay and now we are going to move on and do a review of a movie that is just now releasing at the time that this episode is out it will be streaming because this Friday 13th it'll be available it looks like it did have a limited release in theaters October 11th so just a couple days here ahead of time probably playing in one or two showings this

is dark harvest it's a 2023 horror film although from what I understand it it's been around for a little bit I remember 2019 it was originally announced and it's based off of a novel that I think came out in around 2006 or there about 2004 and a horror movie or horror novel that I didn't I'm a

personally read but I have a lot of friends that have read it and who really enjoyed it partially I think because it's it's a set at Halloween and B is a pretty straightforward concept that really lends itself well I think to like a

horror universe creating a world and I will read the basic synopsis that's coming off of Rotten Tomatoes here and then we'll get into it this movie is directed by David Slade who as I mentioned earlier did direct movies like 30 Days of Night, Hard Candy movies that you know relatively fast-paced and

brutal horror films and that makes sense for this movie dark harvest is a chilling tale set in a cursed town where every Halloween becomes a brutal battle for survival during the fall of 1963 the terrifying legend sawtooth Jack rises from the cornfields it makes its way toward town where gangs of 18 year old boys stand ready to slaughter the murderous scarecrow before midnight among the boys is richy rebellious outcasuring to break free from the town's curse

driven by his brothers victory the year before as a hunt progresses secrets are revealed leading to a shocking discovery and a fateful decision that could break the vicious cycle once and for all there's maybe I don't know if there's I don't know if you guys find that too spoiler-y I think that's the basic setup I don't think it's surprising to know that there's a little bit more under the surface of the story but I think that that generally encapsulates

what's happening oh here's what I before I give any kind of review I'll just get my immediate impressions of the the world that this sets up because I think well maybe is a need for a little bit more explanation and I do want to mention right up front we and I mentioned this earlier but we were given a screener of this to view so studio did provide us with something to review but our reviews are you know we'll reflect what we actually thought of the film this is

set like like it was said in 1963 it's right around Halloween David Slade's a director here the movie looks very slick and very polished the same way that 30 days of night and other films have and immediately you are drawn into this world where this is a compelling sort of idea it jumps right in to the fact that this is a thing that happens every year that this monster comes up out of the cornfield we don't see it immediately but the really interesting kind of

melding here is you've got a little bit of children with corn you've got a little bit of pumpkin head and then it's married to something more like Shirley Jackson's the lottery or the Hunger Games where these kids end up being this last day because if Jack makes his way all the way through town and

gets to the church if he enters the church something catastrophic will happen to the town and they know this because something happened in the past but they because he reached the church they don't know what'll happen you know next time it might be something totally different but they they spent

years recovering from that mistake and the creature can be killed and but it doesn't stop it from coming back the next year and so that is already kind of a very cool idea to play with I like that this is set in the 60s it gives you this world I noticed that some of the the guys their their team Jack it said Brad Barry on the back I was Brad Barry high or whatever but that that seems to be a good name check right off the bat because in concept alone this feels very much

like a Ray Brad Barry S story mixed with some Stephen King and so I loved just that concept that idea and that world right off the bat and I did like that in setting it in the 60s I think it gives the there's a sense of this town

being isolated and having to deal with this on their own and we never see them outside of it doesn't seem like people leave the town very often and I think by setting it in the 60s you allow that sort of seclusion to feel a little bit more normal no one can no one can call out for pizza or you know

type up their experience on social media and show show them like beating Jack down so you have the you know they're on the wrong and this is how they've chosen to deal with it guys what did you think about the setup of the film first just to talk about that because I think it is it's it's one of the most appealing things I think about this about this title yeah the setup is amazing I love the setup I love the world I love this whole idea execution will get into later

but the setup right off the bat I think is a really good one yeah I think Nathan you mentioned the cinematography is gorgeous the cinematographer was Larry Smith and the art director was Mike Mole Hall and they did an amazing job the movie looks terrific and I think it also sounds pretty great it's got music by Brian Wright's all he you know he did the music for the Hannibal TV show and I actually hired him to do a video game back in 2011 I think called

Red Faction Armageddon and yeah joy to work with he's a he's a genius and oh and he did 30 days of night that's probably why he got this game but yeah I love the music in that movie too but yeah he's he's great he's a drummer you know he's a percussionist so a lot of his music that sounds like synthesizers is really just like bells like ringing bells with a digital treatment of some kind on them but anyway he's really great at what he does but yeah I I really

liked it I think that but but I do think that it does have its twist and turns I guess my my criticism is that they are rarely earned like that it doesn't have much emotional impact but you know the the cast is a little yearly good-looking yes distracted me a little bit you're definitely a CW sort

of vibe over the way this has been cast and even presented not to say that any of the actors are bad but that Casey likes to play is Richie Shepherd who's the main character the the guy who wants to leave the town and his family sort of the centerpiece of this I I've never quite gelled with him as a lead like he never engaged me that much yeah no and I I want to say off the bat I don't know if either of you felt this way but I felt almost you talk about the cast a

little too good looking that opening that cold open I it was almost a little too glossy almost got like an uncanny valley feel for a little bit I did get over that eventually but that opening's kind of jarring and it took me a

little bit to settle into the film and get into it yeah yeah there is a sense where it's almost like looking at a Norman Rockwell painting or something there's a there's a little bit of it like artificiality to the way it's presented it's very arc it feels almost like you're reading a graphic novel

at points and which might make sense too because again slayed adapted 30 days of night from a graphic novel using a similar sort of visual palette and that and I agree trade that was right at front that there's a little bit of a remove you'd never quite or allowed to fully get in with these characters and it's kind of a shame because there is some other drama going on in this film and that setup is great stop you know it's as simple as a video game setup

stop him from getting to the church and then the whole town is out in a kind of the young people specifically out in the sort of blood frenzy I thought that there is an opportunity there and when you have I think to speak to the yearly good looking it's not just that they're good looking they're all of a very specific type that you would see in an old like a in a stand by me or something right without the colorful eccentric kids that are at the heart of

stand by me this movie let you know movie where you've got everyone all these young people are gonna set out and and and try to kill this guy on their own you could have put some really interesting characters into this film you could have made a very interesting almost a warriors-esque movie you know out of the he's here and we've got to stop him and you could have these different factions that's really not that present I thought that was gonna be a larger part of the

story right to see these different groups coming up against this this creature now what I will say for the movie is it is very fast paced it's only an hour and twenty minutes and for the most part it goes by very quickly the sawtooth Jack when you finally get to see him I really liked the design it wasn't breathtakingly original but I thought he he seems very ferocious at first you see him and when he's when they come up against him there's real kind of

throwdowns that happen I mean these are vicious bloody battles and in fact it was a little more bloody than I was expecting in a good way I thought that those scenes were they had a strength and you do get a certain tension of how are they gonna stop him and will they stop I mean we know he can be stopped but as the movie goes along I think what happens at least for me is that it starts to unravel as it as it expands so it wants to bring in a few other plot points a

few other things are going on which makes sense this story is closer to an old pop horror story that often they had layers right it's not just the monster it's the tragedy of the monster there's other things are going on so at that level I wanted I wanted more and where the movie ultimately goes I

thought got very clunky because it started wanting to be both vague and overly explicit to tell us things that we learned 30 minutes earlier in the film right and I thought that didn't just slow the momentum but a lot of ways killed the potential drama because there's some there's a potential versus

impoynancy in this film and I even start to enjoy things like you know the relationship between Richie and Kelly the girl that works at the movie theater yes and she's an African-American girl 1963 we see a little bit of that tension those I wanted more of that I wanted to see more what life in this

town is like when you're not hunting sawtooth Jack and also I don't need everything fully explained for me but there was almost no unless I missed it there's not much indication of why this started when it started or how they even learned to do this you know yeah rich will win which they engage in I like world-building details that at least suggest it how a person would have come to decide is how did you realize they all the things that have to take place in

order for this cycle to happen how did they learn that and and there's so little of it touched upon it feels like the movies of like the movie isn't up it's imagination is not up to dealing with that idea and so they leave it out from what I understand is dealt with more in the book and yeah I read the book I did compare endings and this is a really clunky way to end this film and the book seems to have the right the book does exactly what I was actually

expecting it's kind of a mixed bag for me it's a fun movie I think it's a fun holiday movie but I'm gonna say the last thing to me is maybe the biggest disappointment I agree it looks great Victor but I thought they missed a big opportunity with the Halloween fall ambiance yeah the movie is

exaggerated a lot this movie needs a lot more color in it it needs to really have that vibe of those fall autumn streets you could have again we need more scenes of like the rest of the town doing whatever it's doing in between these

these hunts or how is the town adopted adapted so that Halloween is a completely different thing we don't really get that and if you look at the cover of the book the dark harvest the painting or whatever it's in the cover the book that gives you the Ray Bradbury October Country feels I

didn't get any a single whiff of that watching this movie this is a fun car of Jack Lannern's have some cider watch the movie I did enjoy it I'm recommending it but I had a lot of issues with it and it felt like it could have been a slam dunk and it's frustrating that it's not I think you

articulated exactly what I was feeling there Nathan like it yeah the the I mean obviously we can't tell you the the ending but it it just it just stops like the movie the movie doesn't finish in a in a appropriately dramatic way

it's it's just over and you know like okay and I think the best way to enjoy this movie maybe just turn off your brain and and just kind of go with the feel of it but Nathan you're absolutely right that's what I was I was imagining on several steps of the movie that it was gonna be much cooler like

I was like oh this is it's gonna be this and it's not and you know I was like oh oh well and yeah they don't really they don't there's not really a good reason for them to dodge those cool possibilities because what they give you is rather lame but the parts are pretty good the parts are better than the hole yeah and I got just a couple things I wanted to talk with you guys about and first of all I do like Nathan you mentioned that movie theater there I did

like a little scene the movie theater between our leads but there was something that was bugging me and you had gotten into a little bit of this but there was like an ethnic racial slur used earlier on in the film and that was kind of getting at me during the movie because I don't didn't see any

follow-up any reason behind it any context it just seemed like it just came out of nowhere and there was nothing nothing for that I don't know if that's a bigger deal in the book but that was really like I didn't know what the point of it was I don't know if you guys know what I'm talking what I'm referring to or anything but yeah I know and I think I wonder because this is a movie that's coming to us the kind of movie that Dark Harvest is right now I usually see

this in under two circumstances when a movie is rushed into production and released very quickly or a movie gets shelved and sits around and suddenly has time for people to pick at it you know and to mess with it and to and to second guess it there's a lot of scenes in this movie that feel like

they were second-guest maybe reshot and and done a different way because there's moments when it's just the natural flow of that scene is for this to continue and happen and instead the character stop and do something else that

makes no sense that that a character would do in that circumstance given what they know and what's going to happen it just doesn't make any sense it's you sit there watching what feels very contrived but again it sounds very negative for a movie that I'm ultimately still recommending but I think hey

it's an original idea it's not a sequel and it what it does it does technically very well it's just I think it's my classic thing sometimes when you got something when you pull together something so good your responsibility is to make it as good as you can and I think this is so good it's frustrating that it doesn't cross the line for me yeah that's the biggest issue you know it's brutal it's unflinching in a lot of ways and it's very much like a David

Slade film and I love that I love those parts and they do such a good job of making the villain seem menacing and seem uncontrollable unstoppable and I don't know how many buzzwords I can use here but that tension is killed at a certain point yes it's just the film's just so like jarring and so all over the place and once you get to that I don't know what last 20 minutes or so I'd say you know I'd say the tension related to the antagonist dissipates even before

that yeah and I kind of I don't know if you guys but I kind of saw at least somewhat I didn't see the exact points but I kind of saw where it was going at some point I think the way they even even then knowing they could have handled it in a different way but the way they handled it was just not not

well done this becomes a different kind of horror story about halfway through a different kind of genre story maybe and there's a different emotion that should take over at a certain point and that emotion never shows up you know it doesn't what needs to happen doesn't enter the picture and so the the thrills and attention of the early half when they clock out for the day nobody shows up to pick up the rest yeah I think Victor touched on this but it's we

just don't have that attachment to the characters it's there's no attachment built so ultimately this is a really fun I don't know if I'd say fun but it's a really good it's really good for horror fans there's a lot of brutal fast

paced action and things like that but when it comes to the character moments when it comes to the story when it comes to developing all of that there are issues yeah it doesn't get to the church on time yeah this is where I guess on that oh I don't want to say any more about a plot wise

and again I might sound like I'm coming down negative but I do think it's worth wild to sort of to delve into it a little bit because I know they're gonna be and I wouldn't I wouldn't dissuade anybody from watching it particularly fans of the book because you're gonna you're gonna compare it to the book I'm I'm interested in reading the book now because this is a really cool sort of idea and concept and I enjoyed what they did with it and maybe this is a is a damning

statement but I will say this someone announced tomorrow that they were remaking it I would want to know who and I might be interested wow yeah and you mentioned the book and I just want to say really quick like I we can't compare because I think Nathan you and I both kind of spoiled the book for

ourselves but well at this point you've seen the basic contours of the story the story seems to be pretty close to the book it's just that there's a zig where there's a zag yeah but we can't come sit here and compare the endings but just on its own the ending we got wasn't satisfying I'll say so structurally it doesn't work in my opinion yeah so outside of any comparisons to the book and how we would rather have it under anything like that it just doesn't hold

up on its own yeah very very few movies like get you going in one direction and then totally shift like I mean psychos a really good example but there's a good reason for that I think this movie does something similar like your experience you're kind of getting emotionally involved in what these

two characters are doing and then all of a sudden the movie's about something else like two thirds the way through emotionally speaking and that shift is really it's not really jarring I mean it happens naturally in the script but it makes you lose the momentum of really caring about what's going to happen next yeah it doesn't it doesn't disrupt the momentum but it punches a hole in the structure it punches a hole in the foundation of the movie I think

because not because of what happens but because of how it's handled how it doesn't feel like it's cohesively taken to the next step I think that what we learn and what happens is interesting but they don't emotionally back it up because as you said Victor we were focusing on something else right so

well how about let's go ahead and do ratings for this one Victor how about you first what are you what are you rating this one well first I wanted to say this this is the final release by Metro Golden Mayor studios as it was before Amazon acquired it how it's

true yeah Amazon MGM studios so yeah I don't know if that's good or bad but that could explain why it was delayed the last time because the management was changing maybe the the executives were leaving and nobody really knew what to do with it so but anyway now it's now it's MGM Amazon so let's see what they do I mean Amazon does do some good things so but yeah as a rating I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10 and a recommendation to rent it yeah I'm exactly there 6.5 I recommend recommend is a rental

and I think you know if you are someone who's looking for I just spent some time ragging on how I thought there should be more Halloween flavor there is some it does have that vibe and the story is there so if you're looking for kind of fun and you're not quite sure what

to to rent this year to watch out Halloween and you know that you want something new I would give this one I give this one a spin yeah yeah I will you know I think I'm gonna I was wavering a little bit I think I am gonna come in with the 6.5 as well but there's a lot of good horror action

there's a lot of fun to be had with this one so it's definitely worth carving out a little bit of a time to check it out but I feel like we were a little overly negative but it's still a recommendation for me to stream it yeah yeah I agree that is dark harvest and it will be available to

probably to rent and to own on streaming platforms come this Friday the 13th yep cool release date yes yeah very very cool and it's interesting too because I don't think we even had a we didn't have a trailer forever and we only got a trailer like about a month ago yeah that seems to be a theme to

we see a several other that can be kind of cool it's neat because here's a movie that you didn't even know what happened to it and suddenly boom it's back on the radar and it is one that's worth seeing and I think that you know

in a time when not all you know there's a lot of horror movies out there that really aren't worth your time it is nice when these things sort of just sneak up on us you know oh yeah and yeah we should add that Luke Kirby excellent Canadian actor Bill Van Vagel I hope you're listening to this

he plays this really unhinged police officer in the movie does a good job he was probably the scariest non you know the scariest non-sautooth jack character in the in the movie for me because I really didn't know what he was gonna do and yeah that dude plays Lenny Bruce and the marvelous Mrs.

Mazzle not a horror show but an excellent comedy show on on Prime as well and he's I can't wait to see what he does next yeah yeah and another actor you may recognize here's Jeremy Davies who I told these guys like I spent all of this movie thinking he was Henry Thomas and that's probably because I've been seeing Henry Thomas all over the place recently in like pet cemetery and things like that the new pet cemetery but yeah so recommendation to rent very very cool unique world like I do

love that idea of there's this cycle and the town is held in thrall by the cycle and that that stuff is is very cool that wraps up reviews for totally killer and for dark harvest and stay tuned I've got some some reviews of a few new movies as well

okay and now I do have a handful of small mini capsule reviews in the five to seven minute range that I wanted to cover okay so I'm going to move into a small segment about films that are playing in theaters right now and these are going to be small capsule reviews even shorter than I think I've

normally done in the past in the five to seven minute range most of that is because I imagine we're going to cover these in greater detail in future episodes once the whole team has had a chance to see them but they aren't theaters right now and I wanted to give everyone a quick sort of

heads up if you have the opportunity to see them while they're still on the big screen so tonight we do have quick reviews for exercise believer saw 10 and I had an opportunity to see a film anthology called satanic Hispanics I'm actually not sure if that film was still playing in theaters I got a chance to see it at a one or two night event where they were playing it and they happened to have it on the I got a chance to see it while it was playing I think it may have

only played for a weekend I'm not sure what the status of that film is whether it's headed for streaming or headed for a longer release later but I did want to cover it and and give you the heads up on it so let's go ahead and start with exercises I'm going to keep this basic and not get into too much of the plot synopsis you can find a lot of that online but I did want to talk about it is of course the latest in the exercise series it is a sequel it falls into what I

imagine most people are calling a legacy sequels where we're bringing back characters and events from the first exercise film and and weaving them into a new story I will say that this is what number technically this is number five

but it's also kind of number six because there were two versions of exercise four the one directed by Rennie Harlan and one directed by Paul Schrader I've seen both of those films and the three previous exercises movies of course exercise being one of the greatest horror films ever in my opinion the

exercise remains one of the best horror films ever made and not just one of the best horror films but a really great movie in its own right that manages to be a film that's scary that's about the struggle between good and evil and how it plays out in human terms and a great film about faith losing faith finding faith what does sacrifice look like and I think that it's a movie it is a movie of its time when it was made in the 1970s it of course inspired so many movies

that have come after but it's still a very special film because it takes the supernatural it takes elements of religion of dogma and a faith and of unbelief of of of times of struggles with faith and blends them into a picture the feels remarkably real despite all the vomit all the horror makeup the

twisting heads and all those cool special effects the film is is very much a drama centering on characters who feel very believable and very real very tactile and then the visceral nature of that film only enhances all of that so we get the sequel exercises to I think only a small handful of people have tried to do any sort of renovation on that movies reputation but trust me that that's a horse it doesn't run and exercise three is a great film too I think

what's so good about that one is it actually instead of following these Catholic priests even though you've got one is struggling with their faith and you still have these kind of paragons who come in and rely upon God you follow really is a secular agnostic struggling with the idea of whether God is really there for us in the midst of evil and I think that's a really smart move and as many have pointed out except for a studio mandated exorcism in the theatrical

version that movie isn't really about an exorcism it's about continuing the story of Damian carous and detective kindermen so those elements are really interesting in the in the first film in the third film the fourth film and the

both versions of the fourth film have a lot of problems a lot of those are production issues where neither film feels completely finished one feels very rushed and the other one feels sort of incomplete even though I prefer Schrader's version because it carries the through line of a man struggling

with his faith in a world surrounded by a real tangible evil and a God that seems mostly absent so I think those elements in the Schrader version help you create a through live for movie one to movie four so how about this new one directed by David Gordon Green David Gordon Green a very promising

filmmaker in the early 2000s creating these really amazing almost parents malic ask drama pieces that that had a almost mythic sort of Americana feel to them at the same time having very real believable characters often young children who were experiencing this world through the lens of someone who

doesn't completely understand what's going on loves his movies he's had three or four stages he's going through the stoner phase he's now in the let's make sequels to popular horror movies and tick off uh you know the fan base

phase but as a as an acknowledged fan of the Halloween trilogy I liked all three movies yes all three I came to this with with trepidation because I think there's something different about making a sequel to the exorcist and there are more things you have to consider when trying this and I think the

exorcist as much as I love Halloween the exorcist is on a different level of film because it passes over into mainstream drama a lot more and I wasn't really enthused to see this movie I did see it and for the first hour or so of this I was extremely happy I thought they were taking it in

exactly the right direction you'll see a lot of the old school David Gordon Green coming into play here building a world that has small suspicious elements of the supernatural that appear right on the horizon uh right at the corners of everyday life and we see lives that have already been kind of

tainted by tragedy and by lost faith and all of those things they were parent in the first exorcist life in its precarious way is going along and then suddenly there's this other layer begins to insinuate itself and that hasn't been done as well since the first exorcist and elements of

exorcist three as much as I love exorcist three that's a little bit more of a bombastic film and because it plays with police procedural elements it gets into the supernatural from a different angle so in a lot of ways what's happening here shows green employing a lot of tactics

that Freakin himself used while telling a story that initially is very different from what we saw in the exorcist we're not right back into these same characters and a lot of the flourishes which have were flourishes in the original exorcist were almost original and

shocking details have now become exorcism boilerplate for these types of movies most of that is not a parent in this first hour which focuses on characters and developing ideas that are an addition and an expansion of what we saw in the previous exorcist

films I like that I don't want to get too much into the story but it does follow a character named Victor who's played by Leslie Odom Jr. in a really strong performance that is given more to do that is even more fleshed out as a parent struggling with the protection of their child in a way

that's it's more developed even than the L.I. bursting character in the original film at least on that that level he's very good and his relationship with this 13-year-old daughter which is the part of this film is also very good and Lydia Jewett plays his daughter

who Angela and the opening of the film goes all the way back to a tragic event that happened in Victor's life where he was essentially placed in a position to make an unthinkable choice and 13 years later here we are he's a dad who's trying the best he can he's very protective of his daughter

and she and a friend of hers end up going out into the woods and encountering a scenario that when they come back it seems like things are not or no longer right with them and as we know we're watching a horror film this leads to the film's centerpiece possession now what's interesting again

about this first hour outside of that strong relationship that Victor and his daughter Angela share is that the characters on the periphery begin to become as interesting as Victor particularly there's a neighbor and now that when the supernatural begins to

expose itself she steps in and I was really compelled by her character what we start to see is this small circle of various people from different faiths this is one of the most interesting aspects of the movie is that we're no longer at least in the early going here

solely relegated to Catholicism coming in to save the day that plays a part but we're watching characters out of their depth try to do what they can for their fellow people and these are people of faith and I liked the way green puts the emphasis on them he allows them to develop as real people

but what happens is after that first hour which is a lot of of of set building what I became sort of prepared for was David Gordon Green's take on an exorcism film he put these characters in place now only needed to do was flesh them out and bring this event into the center of these people

but instead we know this is going to be a legacy film so we do get Ellen Burston back as Chris McNeill and I honestly think this is one of the weakest segments of the film one of the weakest elements of the movie ultimately the art house gets traded out for the dime store

we find ourselves in very overly familiar territory done in a style that while flashy and superficially slick that doesn't have nearly the impact of the original or exorcist legion everything that's done with her character feels very clunky it feels very much

like a gimmick she doesn't organically fit except to tie this film back to the exorcist and in those ways everything here feels kind of perfunctory which sort of surprised me because as we get to the scares and there's some decent creepy scares again in the early going in this movie when we get to

the full blown his tronics that we the demonic possession it plays almost like a parody of what was in the original film I mean it's not at the level of Leslie Nielsen and Linda Blair and repossessed it's not that but there are moments when I was smirking or sort of taken aback by how

sort of cheap not not not special effects wise or things like that how sort of even lazy and generic some of these sequences felt here Gordon Green is just trotting out your typical horror conventions related to exorcism movies and they fall flat or here then they

would do in a smaller film because their expectations are higher and we and in addition to the the burden of the first film we also now have the fact that he's introduced us to characters were ready to follow and many sends them off on a pretty much routine run of the mill horror film

that really lost my interest one of the shocking things in this movie is how how sort of incidental and lackluster the exorcism itself feels in the context of this film and as a fan it wasn't so much what plot wise is done with christmas deal is the fact that there isn't much thought given to why she needs to come back into this story and it feels very tacked on and she never resonates as much as many of these characters and what she does though is she

kind of sucks some of the air out of the room that could belong to these characters again if this film had followed the and the out character someone who has some sense of what's going on she has a certain amount of of ability to come in and understand the supernatural stakes here

her faith is strong had the movie followed her i think we would have had something much more interesting it may have not been as appealing to people that wanted to see these old elements but i think these old elements are what sort of hinder the film ultimately there are a lot of ideas floating around the second half of this picture and there's just too many of them and what happens is very scatter shot exorcist believer is not a bad movie in fact a lot of times

it's a pretty good movie at the end of the day though i was very disappointed by it because it doesn't live up it's not that it doesn't just live up to the exorcist it doesn't live up to the promise that's presented in the early

going and if i believe if green had trusted more in his own instincts his his filmmaking instincts from some of his earlier pictures that had real passion in real heart when he tries to play in some of these genre fields i think he lets go of some of that passion some of that

expertise that he brings as an artist and he he thinks he knows better and then when he sometimes ends up doing his creating a movie that feels largely generic and i don't know how this is going to be a trilogy because i don't think there's much left open here

but a lot of the poignancy a lot of the impact that came from the original film and from exorcist 3 doesn't really exist in this movie and i think that is down to the filmmakers ultimately piggybacking off of we've got the exorcist we have to do this we have to do that we have to hit

all of these beats and these beats just simply are worn out entire and that concept of a sort of interfaith communal family coming together to fight demon to fight the demon and the idea that faith without works is dead that loving your neighbor like

yourself green finds certain threads to bring these ideas in and place some centerpiece in the action but because they're not fleshed out because we don't know these characters as well as we should they feel forced and they feel kind of trite and the ending of the movie

actually let me down quite a bit because this is something in this happens in this film that has never happened in any of the other exorcist movies and i think in some ways while green is trying to make a movie that takes religion and takes belief in faith seriously

i think in some way cd fangs it because he never quite has the courage of his own convictions filmmaking wise when he enters into that second half of the movie so unfortunately i'm giving this about a six it's got a great beginning it's got a lackluster middle and it's got a disappointing end

that being said i i don't think it's a terrible movie it is certainly not as bad as as many are making it out to be and i think that largely it's better than most of the sequels we've had again with the exception of part one and part

three and while i think that shrader's dominion because it does get a little bit more personal is maybe more appealing to me i think there's a lot to like an exorcist believer but if you ask me this should probably be the end of the road for this franchise because i think the shadow is too long

and i i don't know that green himself has the tools to step out of that shadow and he certainly hasn't demonstrated it here it's a very uh disappointing uh report for me to come back and say that i after loving this the opening of this more than i thought i would

it's disappointing to say that this one doesn't quite stick to the landing however i'd say my recommendation is a rental when it eventually comes to video or streaming check it out see it for yourself but i can't give this a wholehearted recommendation

unfortunately now on the flip side i was quite surprised to see that the tenth film in a horror film franchise turns out to honestly be it's best entry yep i'm talking about saw ten the tenth film in a series that uh hasn't had for me personally any film that really stood out

and grabbed my attention i know a lot of people love this franchise and i honestly i can see the appeal one of the things that this the saw series and in some ways paranormal activity series sort of perfected was a very uh commercial friendly way to tell little chapters of a story uh

without having to develop lots of characters and lots of situations all you needed are really elaborate traps and then a film structure that ties each movie together in sort of tricky clever ways so that the desire to go to see the next movie isn't has doesn't have to be

based off of stars or based off of anything intrinsically interesting in the individual plot but rather curiosity to see well how are you going to tie what happened last time in what's going to happen this time and what new gimmicks and what new sort of tricky

machinations can we get up to all of this sort of tied together via Tobin Bell's jigsaw and Tobin Bell cast as John Kramer who is the identity behind jigsaw was probably one of the series like master strokes even though i personally felt that Tobin Bell got short

changed through most of the series we mostly hear his voice we see him in a sort of figurehead role when he is a on screen and the idea that jigsaw is a killer with a sort of moral purpose never quite completely gelled with me uh mostly because

we never got to know the man himself and after nine other films all of which mostly left me cold i did enjoy uh the third saw and elements of many of the other episodes we finally get a movie that puts Tobin Bell not just front and center but also puts John Kramer as a person up front

and we get to see how he functions emotionally and we get to see how twisted his mind really is because let's make no mistake that while there are elements of this film that create sympathy for John this occurs somewhere between the first movie and the second movie and we see him struggling

with a terminal illness and the potential hope that that illness can be cured what happens here is that we get a sense of him as a human being that doesn't mean that we necessarily love him or can completely agree with the twisted weird things that he does all in behind a sort of high and lofty

purpose for the first time i could see where he was coming from in a way that was intrinsically interesting to me someone who's interested in seeing characters and seeing thought processes that i might not be familiar with and that's what happens here Tobin Bell and his protege Amanda again if you've never seen any soul movies this is a bit of a spoiler but Amanda played by Shawnee Smith we get to see what their relationship looks like this is at a

certain point and if you're a span of the series you know everything that's going to happen to both of these characters but to see them here is to reveal a few new layers to them and we see how they they function as people and

that was surprising to me everything else in the movie does follow the sort of typical saw dynamics there's a lot of twists and turns and contrivances and some uh pretty gnarly and gruesome deaths i probably winced more in this film than in many of the others also the sense of irony of

of irony and also of the desire to force repentance actually comes through in these traps a lot more i think than they did in the other pictures i don't want to get too much into the rest of this because if you're a full-saw fan and you haven't seen this you're absolutely going to want to because it

it does work as a pretty twisty fun thriller i felt the first saw moving particularly sort of hoodwink the audience by putting us in a situation where we have information that either doesn't make sense or sort of refuted later on here this takes us through the eyes of John Kramer

himself we see him observing the traps we see him reacting to the traps and that really makes all the difference when jigsaw showed up i think the intention was really to have a serial killer series in the vein of something like seven or something like that and but

Kramer himself as a character doesn't fit your typical serial killer m-o and here through toben bell's performance we see that he's not necessarily this cold clinical immoral killing machine although he definitely has some issues let's not sidestep that he ends up creating

character that's a little bit more mythic and tempered and layered in a way that you know he went from people throwing him in the same vat with with adjacent Voorhees or Freddie Krueger i found that this movie sort of made me finally connect and realized that he's

closer to a Vincent Price doctor fives or mad magician that sort of thing he's he's more of those kind of classic pulp horror characters and i i am really surprised that that came through for me and i enjoyed this movie from beginning to end it's a fun gross gory ride it has a lot of things going on it it has finally the ideas coalesce with the gruesome visceral kills and again this is Kramer's this is toben bell's movie this is Kramer's movie and supported by shawnee smith who i think is also

wonderful here pay close attention to how someone takes a franchise that was running out of juice and it doesn't just this isn't redeeming it for future sequels this is sending a jolt of electricity through the entire thing i am actually excited now to go back and watch

movies one through nine just to see how what's revealed and and discovered in this movie bleeds out to the rest because i think because of the that interconnected nature that that felt like we were getting little pieces of something instead of a full meal each time

may actually have a positive effect every time you've got an entry like this that expands what the series can be but color me completely like shock that i'm giving this an eight and that this movie that a soul film has the opportunity to end up on my top 10 of the year that that is not a

slight on the rest of your fan but understand this is a review from someone who wasn't a fan who wasn't much impressed by any of the others and really came out of this and i think let's put let's give the credit finally to them bell gets the respect he deserves for this series for the work he's

done in this series and he gets a showcase and he proves again that he is a good actor and i i have been thinking through the entire series you know let's put these two characters front and center let's see how their twisted

minds work and guess what it does work so eight out of ten for me i say this is a seed in theater if you can this will be a great Halloween viewing i think this right now is one of the more superior horror films that's in the theaters in terms of the big mainstream titles there are

a couple coming up that we're going to review in future episodes that i think you know that that may be a little stronger but if you want to see the big multiplex horror movie go see saw ten save the exercise for for video okay and now for the last review of this segment i want to talk about a movie called satanic hispanics which is one of those subgenres that i typically get excited for but very rarely love an entry in which is the anthology horror movie so in this case the unifying factor

within this horror anthology is that each of the shorts is directed by a latin ex-fil maker and for the most part the entire cast are also latin ex-fil makers there are five total chapters to this they are listed as chapter one

chapter two i'm going to go very quickly through them just at a base level the title the basic gist and then we'll talk about how successful this is as an overall product and how the individual chapters are so the first one chapter one is called the traveler it's written by Alejandro

Mendez and it's directed by Mike Mendez and it involves the survivor of a mass killing in Texas taken into custody and then questioned and the the majority of the wrap around is essentially effron Ramirez you may remember his Pedro from the Poline Dynamite

sitting down and being interrogated by Greg Grumberg and Sonia Eddie who were the two detectives who were questioning him and as he tells this story which has interestingly enough its own mythology and its own purpose he ends up veering off into these other

tales that illustrate the magical and the supernatural that exist around them that leads into all the rest of the chapters chapter two is called tambien lovi it's written and directed by Damien Rugna you may remember the Rugna is the director of terrified not

terrifying but terrified the Argentinian thriller from a few years back that i thought was extremely creepy deals with the supernatural so does this chapter that involves a sort of Rubik's cube whiz who ends up using his math skills to create this sort of

light and sound for lack of a better word it's almost like a spell it's original involves light and sound in an effort to sort of summon a ghost in his house and he ends up getting more than he bargained for in the process there chapter three el vampiro moves away from the dread of chapter two

and goes into comedy it's directed by Eduardo Sanchez of the Blair Witch project fame and this one keeps it pretty light with the idea that a vampire who just wants one fun night out on Halloween forgets that this coincides with daylight savings time and now he has to beat the sunrise home

hemkeh madera plays the vampire and its perturisive elascoes plays his wife it's very funny it's pointing at times and it's pretty bloody in certain places as well chapter four the hallways is written by shot and Saul and Rainer Shima and is directed by GD Saul Guerrero who also has a new

segment in the most recent VHS film that came out here she's telling a full car deals with a man who is trying to get extracted from his hideout in the middle of mexico and a situation he's caught in the middle of a cartel issue and but the danger that he finds himself in

goes a completely different route when he's surrounded by the sort of lack of a better term beast man who abscond with him further into the jungle and you get this very sort of complex full car that evolves there chapter five which is written by Lino K Villa and directed by Alejandro

Bruce doesn't give you the title immediately up front that's partly because the title itself is a little bit of a film in joke but this one shows Jonah Ray who Roderigas who you might know from there's been a lot of movies but he was also Jonah Ray in the

one of the more recent mystery science theater iterations the one that aired on Netflix and he plays a guy who ends up in the crossfire of a demon that is already wiped out most of his friends and ends up going on a sort of sojourn to find a mystical weapon that might be able to destroy it

along the way he even makes a mixtape called kill you that is intended for the monster once he finds it chapter six Silent L'Amorte ends up back with the traveler and what's going on with him the traveler played by Ephraim Ramirez and that closes the film out so here's the deal

this is one of the few examples I can recently think of where every segment is good in its own way these are all solid segments the four individual stories and then the wrap around pieces form a really this is one of the few anthology films where each chapter is legitimately

interesting on its own and even if not everyone is a complete knockout everyone is works there are no real duds here the traveler and Silent L'Amorte the two segments that bookend this and and then inform the the pieces in between is surprisingly strong and one of

the best segments in the movie which is surprising because very rarely in most cases I can think of even the really good anthologies is the wrap around one of the best but this is a lot due to Ramirez who really kind of holds our attention and even when it doesn't make a lot of sense how these

stories relate to what he's talking about that parts maybe a little shaky his story itself is so interesting that I would be involved in it and then sort of feel whiplash when I was whisked off to the next story and the conclusion that chapter six is visually propulsive it's energetic it reminds you

of early Robert Rodriguez and it ends the movie on such a high energy note that you walk out thinking about all the other adventures you could see this character the traveler in I predict a graphic novel will be on its way one of these days uh following up on this character the Nohale segment directed by Guerrero is one of the the cases about this movie is each segment while good in its own right uh is almost so interesting that they could all be feature films

now usually you'll hear me complain the opposite I'll watch a movie and say that should have been short this is a case where some of the overall satisfaction is dampened by the fact that these don't feel they don't all feel like fully fleshed out they feel so full that you'd happily watch a feature that's not a horrible complaint to have what it does mean is that satanic Hispanics ultimately while it does work pretty well it does leave you wanting more I'm okay

with that but this Nohale's chapter particularly is so dense in its mythology that I'm not trying entirely understood what was happening and wanted a little bit more to figure out all of particularly the supernatural implications of

what was going on the vampiro segment is probably the one that's most complete it's really funny it's poignant and uh it doesn't really stick around too long and where out it's welcome I thought it was pretty complete as is the chapter two that's the one that's directed by the uh the people who did

terrified this one very much feels in line as a piece with terrified it has an existential horror it's got some very creepy unsettling moments the dread is high in that chapter and then Alejandro Brüess who did one of the dead he's the one that brings the comedy and he kind of brings this the the entire film to sort of a comedic dance deal at one point when this when they they find this guy who can explain what the what weapon is needed to kill the monster and you're just not

prepared for where that goes this is another one that had me thinking of Rodriguez maybe a little bit of some Kevin Smith and some early uh Buffy the Vampire Slayer that sort of thing it's got a great funny tone with a lot of really uh kind of fun splatter effects later on in the

episode and then overall this really works what what the weak point in this is just that ultimately these individual chapters don't exactly coalesce so that it ends up on the really high tier of anthologies i'm thinking of things like uh trick or treat i'm thinking of things

like creep show quiet on those those excellent uh anthologies that all feel of a piece they feel interconnected this one does it but that's partially because it's not so much held together by a theme but it's meant to be a showcase for

filmmakers that often don't get the opportunity to have a have a showcase and so this is sort of a uh variety platter for people who uh may not be aware of these filmmakers for most of us horror fans who have seen these other movies already know what these people could do and want to see them

take these ideas and expand on them that being said this if you grade this on the curve of a of an anthology series it's pretty strong i really enjoyed it i'd watch it again it's when i definitely would purchase i'm going to give it an

eight because i think it ends up above most of the anthologies we see even the ones sort of pretty good and it distinguishes itself every one of these uh chapters i would gladly watch again and i would love to see a sequel to follow up particularly that follows that traveler character

uh from the mendis segments through i think that if they do a sequel what they should focus on is finding a way to unify those chapters a little bit more and they might be able to pop from that middle very good tier to the great tier

uh but as it stands this is one of this is one of the more enjoyable horror films i saw in a theater this year i don't know when all the rest of you will be able to see it i hope it's soon i think this one is really going to sort of catch fire when it hits shutter or something like that and honestly

shutter uh i i i think we're starting to run low on those vhs films if you want an anthology series to pick up and produce uh shutter hulu whoever looked to satanic Hispanics look to these filmmakers they are doing great stuff and again the biggest complaint i have about this

is that they need more time to flesh these stories out had this been a hulu uh series not unlike say into the dark where they had the time to make each of these a feature length i think it would be an unqualified rave but as it is this is a very good anthology film in an area where we don't get a

lot of very good ones so an eight for me uh this is a high priority rental when it's available if it is playing in a theater near you i do recommend it it's a lot of fun and it will be worth seeing on the big screen there are some great creatures there's some great gore there's some really uh

fun and an inventive camo work and directing that goes into this this is this is one that's kind of for the most part's firing on all the cylinders the only thing that's weak is in the context of an anthology that feels like it's cohesive it's not quite there it kind of feels like a assembled film

festival and ultimately at the end of the day that's okay so eight out of ten for me and those are the three new movies we have reviews for stay tuned for our fall preview you'll probably hear some of these mentioned of course we hadn't seen them at the time that uh that we talk about them but this is the in theaters segment of our movie podcast so stay tuned so Hey, everyone. So for this segment, we're back to do something we did a couple months ago with our summer horror preview.

And we're looking to preview some films that are coming out for the rest of the year horror films, horror TV shows, or streaming series, probably more accurate now, and maybe some games and stuff as well. But first I want to introduce the co-host I have here with me. And first up is Nathan Bartleball. Nathan, how's it going? I'm doing very well. Try and do a great happy that we're here talking about the fall. We've finally arrived at the fall season.

And I'm excited to talk horror movies and horror TV shows and possibly some video games. So yeah, absolutely. And I've also got Victor Rodriguez here. Victor, how's it going? Hey, it's going okay. Happy to be back. And I can't wait to talk about what's coming up with horror cinema. Yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of stuff coming. Before we get too far in, I did want to do just a quick little thing that I'd put together.

I know when we put together the Facebook group, I had a question in there for entry. I was thinking of it at the time as just something to ask or to make sure we're getting like horror fans and things in there. So the question was, what is your favorite horror movie? But when I was looking through some of these answers, it was kind of surprising. So I wanted to just, if it's okay with the two of you, just run through very quickly the tallies that we got for some of these answers.

And I'm only going to mention really the ones that we got more than one answer for. But yeah, I was going to just run through that really quick. So first off here, we did have 56 legitimate titles that were picked. Now I know we've got a certain co-host here who was, I think you were just testing it for as Nathan and you put a joke answer on there. I'm not going to get into that.

But also your buddy Steve Morgan, you got to get control of him because these are there put Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. Hey, it's a horror film depending on your perspective. I mean, if you were on that trip, there's a scene in that gene wilder movie when he's screaming on that boat and his kids going through and there's like that weird light show. I mean, that's pretty creepy. Yeah, no agreed.

But the only other one I wanted to highlight was our friend Mr. Watson just put, I've never seen a horror movie. But we had, I would say 56 answers to this that were movies and 19 of them got one vote. But I want to just run down the ones that got two or more. So for the ones that got two, we had scream, return of the living dead, Sean of the dead, a variety of Frankenstein evil dead or the evil dead, the shining a nightmare on Elm Street and night of the living dead.

So all of those got two votes. And then when we get up here with three votes next, we had alien with four votes. We had Texas chainsaw massacre. Tracks for Victor. That's my personal favorite. With six, we have the exorcist. And with eight getting the most votes, you guys have any guesses of what it would be? Please let it not be terrifying. No, no, it is Halloween. Halloween, but yes, it's absolutely Halloween. But I thought that was interesting.

It was way more spread out than I imagined it to be. 56 people who responded and we have 31 different. And I'm correct in assuming that is Halloween 2007, the Rob's. Yes, absolutely. Incorrect. Yeah. No, I'm not too surprised by those answers, but I am a little surprised that the exorcist still has such a strong following amongst listeners. But more on that later. Yeah, yep. So I just maybe after this year, they'll hate it too. Just like Halloween.

Listen, if they haven't hated it after the other sequels and prequels and everything else, like, I don't know what's interesting. It's an interesting franchise. I just got the 4K of the exorcist and I haven't watched it here since one of those movies. I think this bears out along a lot of other horror fans. I love it. It's a great movie. It's not a movie I feel the need to watch like regularly because it is. It's a little hot. It is. I watch it every Halloween.

Wow. Yeah. I think I do think that the exorcist is the is one of it's if not the one of the scariest sounding movies ever made. Like the audio is just insanely frightening. Yeah. It's it. That's a good point that the it's so visceral for so much of its running time. That even the stuff that is like the slow burnery on it just puts you on at you know, ill at ease. Like and then when it's really ramped up, it's almost like it's just so intense. It almost wears you out.

Yeah. Yep. But anyway, I've I've diverted us here, but I basically like to see Brian Frankenstein. Is that the oldest movie on the list? It seems like that might be the case. Yes. Yeah. That was. One second actually. I thought it was, but I don't know if it did. Well, maybe there were single ones. I don't know if anyone had lost for up to or anything like that. No. And no, I was just checking.

Basically, I thought one of the other universal monster movies might be on there, but no. Anyway, small sample size. But if you want to get in on the action over there, we have a pretty, let's say a decently active Facebook group over there. We have a lot of fun talking about different subjects. So we're hoping to ramp that up for October where we will have encouraging or want to regularly post like what they're watching and what they think of what they're watching and stuff like that.

So which is always my favorite part, I think of when we get to people do those 31 days of Halloween, it's always seeing what kind of movies people watch because I feel like every year I walk out with like a few recommendations that I didn't know about based on what people are watching. Yeah. And it's fun to watch stuff that you pretty much have no idea whether it's going to be good or not. But just I like to introduce myself to new stuff mainly a lot of the time, but.

Yeah. Okay. Are you a gentleman ready to get into the fall preview? Yeah, speaking of new stuff. Yeah, absolutely. So first up here and we're just going to go down. Do you guys want to go down the list of movies first and then just kind of do the other things in their own sections or where you're feeling? Yeah. Let's start with the trees. Yep. So first up here on September 25th, which is, you know, soon as we're recording this, coming to VOD is the tower. And I believe this is a French movie.

Correct. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, either of you guys have anything on this one? No. No, yep. Yeah. And as we go through these, there's a lot of movies on this list. So when is this the tower? The tower. I think so. So I couldn't find an IMDB. I did find it on a letterboxed and it's you might find it under La Tour. The long down tower is the same thing. I don't know. The director for that.

Guillaume Nicolau. Okay. Yeah. The inhabitants of a tower wake up one morning to find that their building is shrouded in an opaque fog obstructing doors and windows. A strange dark matter that devours anything that tries to pass through it. Yes. Yeah. I haven't listed here as the lockdown tower, but it's also the tower. Yeah. Yeah. Just found it on IMDB as lockdown tower. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't find one IMDB, but I did find it on the letterboxed under the tower. That's cool.

Interesting premise, but yeah. I'm interested. And so this is on VOD. So that premise has happened a lot in films, you know, I think of the mist and things like that. But when you handle it correctly, it can be a lot of fun. Yep. Absolutely. Yes. So next up a day later on 926 coming to VOD, we have Megalomaniac. And this is a bell jump horror film. We don't get a lot of those. Quick synopsis here is just Felix and Martha, the two offspring of legendary serial murder, the Skinner of Mons.

Grapple with the grotesque legacy bequeathed to them. So it sounds like it could be interesting, but I don't know. Either you guys have anything on that one. Bill and I were just talking about this when we were talking about stuff on Panagalicy. And Bill was very interested in this one.

I am interested, but I'm curious on how it's approached because there are lots of, when you get to the kind of serial killer and the legacy spreading to the kids, I feel like we've seen a lot of that before, but it also comes down to how it's done. And so I am not too familiar with anything else that these directors and writers have done. In fact, this might be their first thing. I'm not saying too much else.

It looks like the director here did something in 2016 called the Frozen Eye, which I have not seen. I don't know if that was a feature length or short film. But hey, I'm up for original voices and original ideas, so I'm curious about this one. Yeah, you too. Same. And it does have an 83% fresh. It's got about 20 plus reviews. And it looks like people have some good things to say, particularly in terms of being visually disturbing. Sounds like a Bill movie. Yeah. And it's also in French.

And I think Bill speaks French. Yeah. Yeah. Next up, we also have another pretty obscure one coming to theaters and that is Saul X. I mean, I don't know. Nine, 29. I'm not very, I've watched two films in the Saul franchise, so I'm not very well versed on them either. Are either of you or? Yes. I have seen them all and I used to have Charlie Clouser, the composer, as my client when I was at Evolution in Hollywood. And I'm a big fan of the music.

And I am usually not into the torture type horror stuff, but I really like the song of these. Not all of them, but most of them, I would say. I can't believe I haven't gotten tired of the concept. But I can't either. For those of you that have seen the last two, you know, spiral and I did see that one. You saw it. Yeah. This is written by the same dude, so it's going to be in along those lines. And it's directed by Kevin Groitert, who did, you know, he's an editor.

And I think this is his first director, directorial effort. And he edited the strangers in 2008. So he knows a thing or two about editing a film. Yeah. You know, Saul series, I think I have seen almost all of them. I have liked none of them, but it came close on the first movie in their defense. And I will say, these got labeled with that torture, you know, which is clearly that is happening.

But the first film really, like the poster was maybe the most explicit thing about that movie, like the where you see the foot sitting on the, on the poster is far more graphic than that, how that scene plays out in the film. There's a lot of kind of goofy editing and stuff in that movie, but a lot of that movie mostly works. And creepy scenes and stuff like that.

But man, you talk about taking a premise and stretching it like you can see it as you possibly get, you have to really be into that to the basic idea of this movie of watching people just trapped in like killer, roooper scenarios. But I still think at the end of the day, it's, you know, mainstream is identified this in hostile, sort of torture form. But hey, when you've seen what these, when you have Bill recommending movies that actually look like that.

You recognize these movies aren't, they're really in a different subset. They're not quite there. No, I mean, I actually did like the first two hostile movies too. So yeah, their, their movies that deal with that subject matter. And because I think mainstream monies just don't have a reference point, you know, they don't really be labor their torture as much as it's sort of a plot device in those films. Yeah. Yeah, there are no guinea pig movies. No, no, I mean, I've seen the hostile movies too.

There are none of them are quite my, my, I haven't seen any of this. This is what you mentioned. That's right. But I have seen both of the hostile films and the saw movies. They're not quite my, my cup of tea, but hey, I can't figure out where in the chronology is this, is this the most recent saw in terms of story or I mean, I didn't know Tobin Bell's back. I'm like, are you? It's back, can. And that's part of the appeal for me. I really love his voice.

Tobin Bell, I think, was pretty unutilized until Saw came out. He still is in everything that titled Saw. Yeah, I guess I see him every once in a while. Yeah, he'll pop up. But he's been in some, like a Robert England. He sort of just pops up and he's in the background. He's been in some bad movies here and there. But well, you guys saw as almost 20 years old. That's crazy. 2004 was, yeah, I remember seeing it.

I think one of the problems around the battle was people who took me to see it were like, hey, come see this movie Nathan, I sort of written it off and they were like, it's better than seven. And that's how I was introduced to the Saw movie and it was not better than seven. So I will revisit that. It's like seven if you take out all the drama and replace it with hastily edited MTV scenes of Danny Glover driving a car at different angles. Yeah, but you're right.

Both seven and Saw share a certain grimy, like pre-apocalyptic sort of urban decay type thing. Yeah, they tie their murders into a, the killer is mandated from on high, AK, the voices in their own head to do something specific that lies outside of simply killing people. But to be fair to seven, they didn't make 12 of those movies. Yeah, no impressive. Nathan, I'm looking here and it says, Saul, Tim will be both a direct sequel to the original Saul and a prequel to Saul two. I don't know.

I don't know. So it makes sense. Saul 1.5. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so that's Saul 10, Saul X, however you want to say it. Next up on 9.29 as well, we have Nightmare, which is coming to Shutter and AMC Plus. I want to read this for you guys because it seems pretty interesting on this press material, like synopsis they put out. Mona and Robbie are a young couple in love. Robbie has just landed his dream job and they're scored an amazing deal on a spacious gift rundown flat.

Never mind that it requires a bit of renovation. Never mind that the neighbors constantly fight and they're screaming baby. Never mind that Mona is suddenly plagued by night tears which grow more intense every time she falls asleep. Robbie is eager to start a family despite Mona's hesitation. Eventually, Mona's issues spiral dangerously out of control as she becomes convinced as she is being attacked by a mythical demon, the mayor, intent on possessing her unborn child.

So we've seen a lot of that lately. I think we've talked about this. I don't know if we did in our summer preview, but interesting concept. We've seen a lot of that concept lately, but I love that they have this demon called the mayor that is here and I think it's probably one of those, you know, is this real, is this not movies, but didn't know if you guys had any takes on that one. Right. It's a Norwegian film. So we're going to get some Nordic horror.

I, and I, there, there's a review on the last episode that did for a movie that just came out, just missed this list by time we're recording it, but a full film. We're seeing a lot of movies that are taking us back to possession, taking us back to like demons and that sort of thing, but with the caveat or the wrinkle that we're trying to see them through the perspective of other cultures.

And I think that maybe the Babadook was one of those movies that re-ignited that, you know, this idea of this very singular, what the, you see that title and you're like, what the heck is that? And there are movies that have done that well. I guess my, my new criteria for this is I really want to see them delve into whether you're making your mythical monster up or if it really is something that exists in the zeitgeister in the mythology of, of whatever your culture is.

I really want to see them lean into that more, you know, I lately have seen some movies with some very interesting ideas that are culturally not what I'm used to, but then the film they exist in is very much a traditional, there's the demon in the darkness. And everything else about the movie is exactly the way you would expect it to be. And they don't lean into that mythology or lean into the folklore.

The flip side that is movies like under, was it, was it under the veil or under the, under the shadow. Thank you. Under the shadow. A movie like that, I thought, was an excellent use of a folkloric entity of a very real time in place in culture that I personally don't have as much exposure to. Well, 2015, I think had a movie called Demon that dealt with a divot at a wedding.

Those movies are fascinating to me because they immerse you in the culture first and then involve you in the, in the monster or whatever the myth is, his house did something similar. I hope it's more like that, but I've been seeing a lot lately that are almost your standard demon movie, just throw new fangled creature in that exact, exactly the same. You know, when you read that, it actually reminded me of another movie you turned me on to Trey.

Earlier this year, I think, Wesera, the bone woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly the one that pup into my mind too, because it deals with that pregnancy horror again. There's so much pregnancy horror this year. Yeah, I guess a lot of, a lot of soon to be mothers are a little concerned about giving birth. Yeah, but that's a good parallel victor is you say are the bone woman. Yeah, different mythology, but similar concept.

Yeah. So, and if you haven't got enough of the pregnancy horror on the same day coming to VOD is deliver us, which is about a woman, a nun, a nun who is claiming immaculate conception and the Vatican is sending priests because of a prophecy that a woman would give birth to twins, both the Messiah and the Antichrist. So, I thought my sibling ties were strained. You guys, this is the number one movie that I'm looking forward to in the coming season. Yeah, I'm curious about it as well, Victor.

Have you seen a trailer for this or anything? Nothing. I've seen nothing. I know just what you read to me and that I'm honestly getting, I'm reaching my fatigue level with the demons again as you probably just figured out, but this does sound interesting, like this sounds like it's slightly different, but there's a part of me that was kind of hoping it was going to be a war comedy just being called deliver us and involving her giving birth to both the Antichrist.

I think this could be, I think this was right for that sort of thing. Good sitcom. Yeah, the title is, does let itself, is sort of Leslie Nielsen-esque or at least what we do in the shadows, ask. Yeah. And you thought the odd couple were at odds. And it's no repossessed though as far as titles go. Where is that going to be? That's going to be on VOD. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yep. I don't know if I can see it. Yep. And that's soon. We don't have long from when we're recording here, but.

Okay. Next up, we have another Hulu original, which I feel like they've been putting out horror films pretty regularly this year. At least for their standards. And that is a pendig coming on October 2nd. And a pendig is after a hitty-neighbaking point, Hannah's inner thoughts physicalize into a monstrous creature that threatens to upend her life. So yeah, I don't know. I think it's hit her miss a lot of these Hulu originals.

Yeah. So the kind of anxieties as monster are like sort of taking over our thing. Yeah. Yeah, we got to think who's making the movies now. There is a good point. It's an anxious time to be alive. Yes. Yes. Okay. So next up, we have, oh, this could be a, this one could be very bad. And that is the, the gesture coming to VOD 1103. And this poster looks, it doesn't look great.

And this is a dread central original, which I think we've all, I don't know if we all had, but I know I've had at least my ups and downs with dread central stuff. So I don't know if this one's coming to, screen box or anything, but I know it's at least going VOD. Either of you interested in this one? No. No. Yeah. This is, this is what I'm, I'm looking at the posters over this is absolutely going to, I'm going to need to have at least six people I trust.

Tell me this is one of the best movies of the year. Yeah. So our even father. That's exactly good. I mean, yeah, I do try to keep an open mind, but I, yeah, I'm going to need some people, some soldiers to, to take the front lines on this and see if it's any good. One thing I, I will say about this that is sort of intriguing is that it's set at Halloween. Yes. That line, tormenting happens to the small town on Halloween night.

I'm pretty sure I've never seen a movie where that's been like, oh, wait a minute. But, but I am a sucker for the Halloween night thing. So, but you know, I know we all have our traditions of what we watch like around Halloween, but it's nice to cycle at least one new movie in there every year, at least for me and I agree. Yeah. You know, it could have value there, perhaps if, if some of you write that it's good.

Yeah. So, Victor wants you to go out there and follow an other name for him and tell him, no, no, this, no, no, Victor, I think there are, yeah, there are plenty of people in our community that I feel like go out there and see almost every new release. So, yeah, keep your ears peeled on that one. But, well, could I, could I interest you in one called creepy crawly or the 100 coming out these same day, October 3rd on VOD? Those two titles seem very far apart from each other.

Creepy crawly gives me the vibe that this was the original like we're going to put a working title on this thing. This is a tie film. And the tagline is hoop as S is who, which is, you know, that's all right. A quarantine hotel where overseas travelers stay in isolation to curb the spread of a contagious virus, but they, I don't know if that makes any sense. Anyway, they soon become prey to a strange breed of a 100 plus legged monster.

Oh. So the poster, the cover poster for this has that thing on the front of it and it's wild looking. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, I don't know. Yeah. That is just a giant pile of arms and stuff sticking out of it. It looks wild. Interesting. Okay. Maybe I'll see it. Again, you get that. Yes. That's, yeah. I mean, it's a monster movie. I mean, I watched a whole movie about a killer refrigerator, I think, this is a tie film. So, you know, did you watch the lake? That was the tie film, right?

Oh, that was a giant monster. Now, see? Oh, yeah. We had different opinions on that. Yeah. I mean, you're going to make you remind me of that movie and now maybe I won't. But they also, the medium is also a tie film, right? Yeah. Well, so the monster special effects movies don't always go wrong. But it's a different third. Well, go USA is releasing it. So, which digital?

Yeah. You can't say, every time I see Well, go, I like hesitate, but then they also put out a lot of, they do it just international. They cover a wide swath. So you're basically getting everything that's relatively new, coming from overseas that they can get their hands on they usually do. Yes. Yep. Okay. One 10-6, probably the, you know, youthful, creepy crawly was a bad title. Coming wide to theaters, the exorcist believer. I, guys, I'm not a fan of that, of that title.

I don't know how the two of you feel, but this one is. I don't know how to feel on this one. I'm not, I'm keeping the lowest expectations on this and maybe hopefully it'll be good. I don't know about you too, but I don't know if I've seen anything to convince me on this one yet. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I, I definitely don't. I'm not going to run out and see this.

I think that the exorcist is probably the last movie that needs a sequel right now, but I like the fact that people are still into, I mean, I think I just wish I was a really big fan of the TV show and me too. Me too. Yeah. I kind of wish the cosmic energy had gone in that direction to give it a few more seasons rather than another feature, but maybe, you know, maybe there'll be enough in there to make it worthwhile. I don't know.

I mean, I think exorcist 3 is a really good movie and obviously the first one is a masterpiece, but I just don't think anybody can make a film like that anymore. Yeah. No, and a lot of what was probably needed to be said because that is the thing about the exorcist is it was a movie that was both very visceral and about ideas, you know. And most possession films since and not all them, but the good ones are about ideas and the rest sort of recycle the tropes.

My concern with that trailer is it looks a lot like recycling the tropes and I guess my issue with this is we've recently got into this feeling and maybe stuff like saw as a part of that where the what we have is so thin, but then we it's like you watch each new movie almost just to see how can it possibly tie to the movie before it. And I think we've saw that happen with the Star Wars films where it all has to be intricately tied together.

So whoever watches a new one knows we absolutely watch the last movie because it's all about the skywalkers or it's all about this. Like the exorcist seems to me, you know, the exorcist 3 was cool because we had this cop character who we did not know and who wasn't really a part of he was only tangentially a part of this universe, but he gets tied into the naming care story. So we see it from a completely different perspective. Yeah, that's why that work.

But otherwise if you're going to do the exorcist, why don't we lean into the stuff about the priests or or where these demons go after this? I don't necessarily want to see a movie where we see, you know, Ellen Burstman back kind of now she seems to be conducting the exorcism or whatever. Like I don't necessarily, I wasn't, I'm not so intrigued in these characters and their continuing story that I want to see a new exorcist movie deal with that. I think conceptually is good enough for me.

Yep, I, I, I'm with you. I, I would have loved to have seen a new exorcist movie set in Iraq where Pazuzu fights the local holy men, local Muslim holy men. Yeah, something like that, take, explore the world you've set up and, and give us new characters. Yeah. Do you think there's any chance the, the towns people take the possessed person and carry them off to like some kind of trash compactor shredder or something at the end of this movie? I just know.

But, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, yeah, there's things I'm seeing, but here's what I'm, here's what we see a lot is this, the familiarity breeds contempt. We, people who want to see this, love the other movie so yuck, I'm ready for more, but usually when, when more is just for the sake of more, it's never going to be as witty or smart or as unsettling as this first few trips down the thing.

And I mean, I even have a little bit of a fondness for the Paul Schrader version of, I think it was called the minion, but it's the fourth exercise. Oh, yeah. Not a great film, but another movie about ideas and, but I just don't see that here. I don't see that seeming to be a part of the construction of this movie based on what I have seen in the trailers. Yeah. And again, I'm going to wait. I will go into this. Yeah. I'll see it for the podcast, but I probably wouldn't otherwise.

Yeah, I'll go into this blank slate and give it a fair shake, but yeah. Okay, guys, speaking of sequels to Big Franchises on the same day, October 6th, we have Pett Cemetery Bloodlines on Paramount Plus. And this is a prequel going back to 1969 about Judd Crandel. And I'm a, I'm a pretty big fan of the 2019 remake. And I just don't know about this. I mean, if it's done well, it's fine. But the fact that they're putting it straight out to Paramount Plus, I just don't know.

Yeah, I really, that's one of my favorite Stephen King books. It's very, very disturbing the original Pett Cemetery book I'm talking about. Fourth reading, but it's a rough read and I like both of the movies, both of the Pett Cemetery movies equally. One of those weird people, I think they both have strengths and weaknesses. I don't think we need a prequel. I think Judd, Judd's a great character as a supporting character, but I don't know if we need him to carry a movie.

Yes. So I'm skeptical about this, but I know that David do companies in it. There's my reason. I'm, yeah. I like otherwise. You could probably copy and paste my comments about every, every sequel or movie here with this idea of you're just, I don't, I'm tired of things constantly trying to demystify or drill down into the smallest minuteist corners when things were intended just to give a sense of mystery, right? Judd relates why his experiences with the Pett Cemetery in the book, right?

And in the films. So we have that. We don't really need to go back here, but David accompanied Pam Greer, Henry Thomas, I like all those people. Yeah. Yeah. We don't need it, but maybe we'll be surprised. I don't know. Yeah, I don't, I think it's odd to focus on Judd's character.

That's such like a, like a studio boardroom decision, I feel like there's so many interesting places you could go with this that have nothing to do, even with the original characters, and that just seems, well, the one story that has never been fully fleshed out, and I not saying we need it, but like if you're going to point to me in place, it's interesting. Let's go back to the Mick Mack, you know, tribes and the battle with the Windigo and stuff like that. Yeah. What about that?

Yeah, yeah, because that's, that's all in the book and it's pretty bombastic and that hasn't made it into any of the movies yet. You know, there was a, there were some mild suggestions of it in the, in the last film, but very mild minor. Yeah, I'm, you mentioned Windigo and I'm, I'm all in, I don't care how big or small the budget is, but yeah, yeah.

There's a, by the way, there's a pretty cool story by Owl going back that is a Wendigo story in this anthology that I'm reading called American Cannibal. But, yeah, I recommend the book. It's, it's got, not every story is a super hit, but you know, a lot of them are pretty good. So I recommend it. Cool. Okay, guys, 10-6 is seemingly never ending. We've got another one here on Shutter and I'm assuming AMC plus as well with VHS 85.

I don't know how many movies I have to watch in the VHS franchise before I learn my lesson. But I'm a fan of one more, just one more. That's it. This is going to be the one. No, no, I liked what was it? 1994. They did and I've liked segments in some of the other VHS movies, but I don't, I think I felt like 99 was like one of the biggest let downs after 94 that I had seen. I don't know how you guys feel about it, but yeah, same.

So another one of those franchise when I look at I just hear what was the Billy Bob Thorne character from Slingblade and it got no gas. Right. Look across the board on something. It's like, you guys, you're on, you're running on fumes. Yeah, no, totally agree. I want to, it's just VHS with a couple of new numbers next to it. And however, I looked up the directors on this of the segments and yes, a hit parade. It's Scott Derrickson, you know, who did the black phone.

Yeah. David Bruckner, who did the nighthouse. Natasha Kermani, who did Lucky. Yeah. Which I liked. That's Mike P. Nelson. This is not, not the guy from Mystery Science Theater, but the guy who did Wrong Turn in 2021. Okay. And Gigi Saul Guerrero from Satanic Hispanics. Yeah. Okay. So I was just trying to look up the directors, Victor. So you beat me to it and I'm glad you did because I'm a fan of all of those movies that you mentioned.

Yeah. I think it is, it's probably the, and Bruckner, I believe was involved in the first one, I think. Maybe he did a segment in the very first. He might have. I will say, you know, that's the one thing about the anthologies is you always maybe have a chance, particularly when you're getting different directors because the, their only ever as good as their segments. And there have been somewhere, there have been a lot of great segments.

There was one where the segments weren't terrific, but then there's that one that dealt with like the death cult from the guys that made the raid. And it was like an apocalypse cult rather. And that like redeemed that entire, you know, whichever VHS that was maybe part two. I don't remember any of those other segments, but I remember that one. Yeah. Same here.

So, but the flip side is, you know, there were ones were Justin Benson and there were more ahead did a segment in one and I couldn't tell you what theirs was about now. And the big guys who did one of my favorite movies from last year, death was the dead, what was the dead, dead stream, the dead stream had a segment in there and it was like all the energy I saw in the other movie wasn't present here. So yeah, oh, sorry.

No, go ahead, Victor. No, I was just going to say, yeah, the, I mean, the first movie I think is definitely worth tracking down. I really like it. I own it on DVD. Ironically, because VHS, but it's, it's great. I mean, it's great. I just except for the segment that Nathan mentioned in any of the sequels, which I think I've seen them all, haven't really measured up to it. You weren't a Rotma fan. Oh, that's with the creature, the rat god in the sewer. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it was a lot of vomit.

It was interesting premise, but rat, like I was like, what, you know, why is it called that? Like, right, like this isn't, this isn't a George Lucas movie or a goose bumps. Why is it called rat? Right. Yeah. The naming convention was weird, but, yeah. No, I think honestly, the only, the difference with this one though is like those directors you named, they've all kind of done decently well known films.

And usually with this VHS stuff, you're seeing directors who, I mean, most of the time, you're seeing directors who have, you know, their feature catalog, mostly I had them. They're pulling out all the stops for the 80s. What I will say, because a couple of the directors you mentioned also have done segments for a, an anthology that's out there and will probably be hitting streaming soon. The TANIC Hispanics, that's the one to check out.

I can't, I can't speak to this VHS because I haven't seen it, but I have seen TANIC Hispanics. And that's, that's a solid anthology movie. I like every segment. And one of the few examples where the rap around was one of the best stories. Yeah, and also had G.G. Soul Guerrero in it. Correct.

Did, and you mentioned how Mike Nelson from Mr. Cincere was not involved in this movie, but Joe and Array Rodriguez, who was the last, on the last Mr. Cincere were the one before it, the one that Netflix had, he is in Sotanic Hispanics. Yeah, Joe, Joe, Array is great. No, no relation, but. No, good point. Yeah, thanks for clearing that up. I'm a fan.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, next up in a, in limited theaters, and I'm assuming a lot of these limited theaters, I mean, we've seen things like Slother House and Cobb Web get releases, like two weeks later on VOD. So keep that in mind as you go through, a lot of these limited releases have been coming out pretty quick. This one's called the Royal Hotel, and this is an Australian film.

And this not something this one is, and this seems much more like that thriller type movie, but after running out of money while backpacking in a tiny male dominated town in the Australian Outback, two friends resort to resort to working holiday at the Royal Hotel. When the local's behavior starts crossing the line, the girls find themselves trapped in an underving situation that grows rapidly out of their control.

Wow. Think a pretty familiar setup, but it's just going to be all about the execution. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I got a lot to say about that. Like, I think Australia has been coming on really strong. I just saw this, I just rented this movie called Beaton to Death, which, oh wow. I don't know if it's, yeah, I don't know if it's an appropriate title. I hate to say, it's a grueling movie. I guess it's horror because the violence is just so extreme, but there's really no supernatural elements.

But the way you described the Royal Hotel reminds me of Waken Fryt, which is, I just saw this trailer for this movie the other night. And Waken Fryt is exactly the movie that popped into my mind. It's almost like, and then here the female characters are central to it, but it looks like it could be almost like an update on Waken Fryt. Yeah, yeah. But it's directed by Kitty Green who did the assistant. I like that. Yeah, which was awesome. Yeah, really, it's not not horror, per se.

Well, if you worked in that office, it would be horror. Yeah, it's sort of real life horror, but it also starred Julia Garner, who is Australian. And most of you listening probably know her as their favorite character in Ozark, because she has a pretty good Ozark accent going on. But she really is Australian and she plays it with a total American accent in the assistant and she's fantastic. I think you were the person who turned me on to that movie too.

I think you had one of your best of lists that came out the assistant. I think it was you, somebody, somebody of family outsees suggested and I watched it. Yeah, wasn't me. It just looks good. Hugo Weaving's in it. It's got a strong cast. And it definitely, yeah, Waken Fryt seems like a reasonable comparison. I definitely think Thriller, like a realistic and socially relevant thriller is probably what it is as opposed to maybe a full-bore horror film, but it looks really good.

I think it's probably going to be in the tradition of a lot of those Australian movies we've seen recently that are pretty brutal, but a lot of them are thrillers. Oh, yeah, yeah. When you watch a movie like The Proposition, does it matter that you think it's a West Trident and not a horror film? No, no, I'm not certain. No, the Aussies have been pretty, pretty intense. I mean, it's a dangerous place to live. Yeah, it's not as dangerous as these movies would have, I believe. No, probably not.

It's been a lot of time in Australia and it's nice, but yeah, from the movies like from Mad Max on. Oh, even the kids movies, it's like, it's just like, child and wall wall, child and danger room. Next up is one that's gotten some buzz and Victor, maybe this is the one you throw in your rotation for your Halloween set movie. That is totally killer coming to Amazon on 10-6. That should be Amazon Prime, Prime Video.

These synopsis for this is 35 years after the shocking murders of three teens and infamous killer returns on Halloween night to claim a fourth victim. When 17-year-old Jamie comes face to face with the Mask Maniac, she accidentally time travels back to 1987. Forced to navigate the unfamiliar culture, Jamie teams up with her teenage mother to take down the site go once and for all. Now I read that synopsis like it shades of two movies and that is Happy Death Day and final girls. The final girls.

This is a horror comedy. I'm looking forward to this. This is Blumhouse. I don't know how you two are and obviously it depends on how the movie is but I'm pretty psyched about this one. Yeah. Also, Kiernan Shipka is in it. Yes. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. And I will definitely see it on Prime because I have Prime but I would be a little hesitant to go see it in the theater. But I'll definitely give it a shot. Sounds like a horror comedy. But yes, it is. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, yeah, it's got that vibe all over it. Happy Death Day, freaky, final girls. It seems like it fits within that group of films. I will say hearing this and I know it's not related but I do remember years ago reading a movie I want to say it was a Dean Coote's novel that involved a guy who made, you know, he went one way and he should have gone another way years and years ago and then there was this serial killer that kind of kept permeating everything throughout his life.

And then he gets an opportunity where he gives, he's kind of back in that time frame of the 80s or whatever it happened and he has the opportunity on Halloween night to go the other direction. I don't remember what the name of the book was but I think the time travel, if it's not in the dark, it could be kind of cool because the other movie that probably given the comedy part we're probably not thinking of is sci-fi frequency.

You know, now there was no real time travel and frequency but there was a, you know, there was a sort of mechanism or magical realist mechanism of being able to talk across the radio to your dad and when he was younger and help them solve this case of blowing the serial killer. So I do like time travel movies when they kind of play around with horror so I'll be in to try it at least. Yeah, cool. We'll report back on it. Yeah, absolutely.

Next up on the same day as the last one for October 6th is Vindicta. We're still in October 6th. Yes. Well, everyone had to, you know, it's kind of a shame. Everyone's getting out of the well, I don't know about this but the exorcist at least got out of the way of the Taylor Swift concert on Friday the 13th. I don't know who, who let that happen. But anyway, so Vindicta, this is, and I'm going to need you guys to look at the poster and look at Jeremy Piven and Sean Astin in this.

It's a sight to behold but when a city is terrorized by a sadistic serial killer, a seasoned detective and a newly recruited paramedic discover the key to stopping the blood shed, rising, unlocking the truth to their own haunted past. So I like the set up. That's terrible cover art. Yeah, it's awful. I like the set up but yeah, I don't have high expectations.

This is coming from Sean McNamara who has directed, you know, the acclaimed director who's directed sequels to both the Casper movie and the three ninjas movies. What is that Jeremy Piven? What happened? That is Jeremy Piven. I mean, this is not a comment or a way game or anything. But it looks like it looks like a picture of him after a bar fight or something. Yeah, it's a very weird image. And Sean Astin, I can't put my finger on it.

He's reminding me of someone and a different actor and I can't think of it but he's not looked like Sean Astin. Well, yeah, I guess for those of you that saw Stranger Things and missed his character from that show might find this movie appealing because I think he's either the cop or the emergency cop, I believe. I see a badge, I think. Oh, no. Yeah, the premise is, it's a cop and an EMT guy team up to fight the serial killer. Yeah, yep. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I like their previous work.

Yep. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see you now. I think I'd suppose I can say. I'm a little surprised Nicholas Cage is this. And the problem is, I don't know if that would raise or lower the quality of it. The anticipated quality of it. I've seen trailers for a few new movies and Nicholas Cage is going to be in this year. I think he was right to choose those other cops. But anyway, but we'll see. Yeah. Yep. All right, let's move to Friday the 13th here.

Next up on VOD is Dark Harvest, the movie that's been bumped a few times. This is the David Slade directed film about, and this is also set on Halloween, which it's, I think we're getting a lot more of these Halloween set films. Now, I don't know about the quality of the new ones, but it's, it looks like on a Halloween 1963, Saul Tooth Jack, a terrifying legend rises from the corn fields, threatening the town's children. People, boys, unite to defeat the murderous scarecrow before midnight.

And I love that premise. I kind of, I mean, I don't love the poster, but and David Slade really hasn't done anything terrible in the past. I think my only hesitation, and we might have talked about this Nathan, is just how many times this film's been bumped and moved and changed around. Yeah. The main stuff of a book was the same name, Dark Harvest by Norman Partridge, which came out in 2006. And it's actually very fun book, a very fun, like kind of Halloween story.

It does have a sort of scarecrow monster at the heart of it. But there's this, there's an interesting kind of storyline that follows what the people in this town, how they've come to deal with the fact that there's this reoccurring evil, you know? Sometimes that's interesting, the trailer, but I think having it pushed back so many times, the point where people started to wonder if there even was a movie to release, you know?

I'd be praying, Ben Chinner, Tom, but this last year, it reminded me that this was still out there somewhere. So I saw the trailer and I think, you know, I remember something similar happened to Trick or Treat, the Michael D'Aurty film, where it was on the poise to be released, and then it wasn't, and then it wasn't, and years ago by, and then suddenly it just dumped to like DVD, because I think VOD wasn't quite a thing at that point. In 2009, 2006 is when people were talking about it, 2009.

Now the difference there is when it hit video, it turned out to be just as good as we hoped it would be. The trailer for Dark Harvest doesn't have me as optimistic. Yeah, that's too bad. Well, I do like the director. 30 days of night really goes hard, and I love it for that. So it was hard candy. Yeah, and hard candy, it goes hard in a different way. But yeah, so if he brings that sensibility to this movie, I'm probably going to like it. Yeah, I hope so.

I mean, like a Halloween movie, based off of a book that was a lot of fun with a good director and a reasonable cast, like I'm all in if it works. I just hope that it, you know, it works. Yeah. I'm going to type a story with a group of kids, you know, I need to get to scarecrow. I mean, that sounds like, yeah, that's right up my alley, but we'll have to wait and see on that. Right. Um, also on October 13th, coming to limited theaters is dear David. And this is actually done by Buzzfeed Studios.

And the synopsis here is shortly after comic artist Adam responds to internet trolls, he begins experiencing sleep paralysis on empty rocking chair moves in the corner of his apartment. As he chronicles increasingly malevolent occurrences in a series of tweets, Adam begins to believe he is being haunted by the ghost of a dead child named David. So this is another one where I like the premise, but the poster has me second guessing what this is even going to be.

But this is the director of Anna in the apocalypse. I sure thought was a very fun movie. This seems like a very different style of movie. Yeah, I saw the trailer for this just the other day before it lives inside. And the trailer didn't do all for me, but there were a couple of elements of it where I thought, hey, this could be interesting. So yeah, I give it a shot. Yeah. I'm impressed I had a trailer in theaters that already raises the expectations that I had.

Okay, same day on Netflix, I believe we have the conference. And this is a Swedish horror film. And it says thriller horror comedy. But synopsis is a team building conference for municipal employees, which turns into a nightmare when accusations of corruption begin to circulate and plague the work environment. At the same time, a mysterious figure begins murdering the participants.

So I wonder how much comedy will be in the mix with the horror thriller, because it seems like it could go either way, you know, based on that premise. Yeah, Swedish comedy can be very dry. Yes, but I don't know. We'll have to see. And that is Netflix. That was going to be pretty easy to get to at least. Awesome. Yeah, I might be into this. Yeah. It's another one. The picture is the only photos I see of this.

Have someone wearing one, another one is giant like cartoon heads, kind of like the happy death day. But it's bleeding from the eye sockets. Oh, no. So like it. Yeah, I do too. No. Still on October 13th on coming to VOD, we have 15 cameras. And in this one, when Cam and Sky bought their duplex, it seemed like the perfect investment opportunity for the young couple. A starter home, a mortgage offset by renters, and even a guest room for Sky's sister.

But as Sky and Cam slowly uncover hidden cameras and secrets of the duplex's previous owner, obsession consumes their marriage, and they both fall into destructive forms of voyeurism. So yeah, I think I don't know. We've seen a decent amount of horror films and modern times take on voyeurism and hidden cameras and things like that. But yeah, I don't know what you guys think of this. I already met see a poster for this on Letterbox to sell.

The most intriguing thing about this is that just like what happens in real life with trauma often, the couple end up committing crimes of voyeurism at some point in the movie. That's sort of intriguing to me, although I hope the air is more to the movie than that. But it does sound like a decent device to use a found footage film, you know, the 15 cameras. It's like, oh, you know, they buy a new duplex. And what do you know? There's a hidden camera, and then here's another one.

That's, yeah, I mean, that's an inexpensive idea. And if it's executed well, I think it could be very entertaining. Yeah. Yeah. And I think what's potentially cool there is if it is the found footage, then you can play with the idea of who's put the cameras up and who's, you write like, you know, you can construct the story in an interesting way and give us perspective because if eventually the couple gets in on it, then there's a question of who's camera are we looking at, stuff like that.

I think if you really lean into it as a found footage, that could be very cool. The flip side is it totally sounds like a 90s like Skin and Max movie, but I'm guessing that's not what we're getting. No, I don't think so. No, but it's written by P.J. McCabe who wrote the beta test a few years ago. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, it's a real, it's not really a horror movie, but it's a cool concept about an agent that gets, yeah, sort of wrote into it. So it could be good.

And last but, well, maybe I don't know if it's going to be least or not, but on 1013 we have coming to VOD in the fire. And in this one, a young couple, a couple with a young autistic son have to face both the villagers and the local priest who worry the boy is possessed by demonic forces and is the reason for all the villagers blows. So Nathan, if we hadn't mentioned demons in a while, there you go. No, good. I was starting to worry. I wouldn't have a demon movie to watch one of these weekends.

Yeah, but I don't have anything else on that one. I don't know if you guys do, but yeah, I just want to mention a recently finished Gemma Files book, experimental film. And it is very much, it's a horror book and it's about an experimental film that harms people. But it's also about a mother with a slight case of autism raising a child with a major case of autism. And that part was very interesting. Now I don't know if they ever make a movie out of it.

I don't know if a lot of those things can really be communicated in film, but it works really well in the novel. So if those themes interest you, I highly recommend you pick it up, experimental film by Gemma Files. I'd love to check that out. Oh, it's also an exposé of the Toronto film industry. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah, solid. We could always come on you for some good recommendations on that front. I read a lot. You do. Yep. And then if you want to watch this movie, go for it.

Yeah. Yeah. Book first movie, maybe. I don't know. And to be fair, this movie is not an adaptation of that book. No, no, it is nothing to do with it. But all right, on 10, 20, we only have one release and that is limited theaters. It is Malibu horror story. And the interesting thing about this one is Nathan, I see our friend Amanda Lee here has already seen it and has given it three out of five stars on the letter box. That's not bad, especially for Amanda's rating system.

I feel like where she's a bit tougher than I am at least. But yeah, this is a terror strikes when a team of paranormal investigators search a secret cave for clues and the unsolved disappearance of four local teams. So I don't know, pretty interesting premise. But I think this played it some film festivals. And like almost a year ago actually. So it's been, it's been floating around there for a bit. I do remember men talking about this one. So I, yeah, I'm interested.

Yeah. Cool. All right, moving on to 1027 and Nathan, you've got hip kids, right? Five nights at Freddy's coming out wide. Yeah. They are like ridiculously excited for this. Like honestly, this is like their movie event of the year. I've seen the trailer. I don't think it looks particularly great. But I mean, but it's caught there. It's captured there like attention. And it's like typically, you know, my kids see horror movies and they go to school and most of their friends are interested.

But everybody's interested in this. So you've determined that I guess this is coming to Paramount Plus. I think or or Apple. It's coming wide. Yeah. But it's coming to one of the streaming services like for free, I think. Oh, is it? I believe so. Keep my fingers crossed because that's probably what's going to happen is going to be a Halloween party for a bunch of kids here at the Barnabelle House watching Five nights at Freddy's. So that's a universal Blum House film.

Maybe it's maybe it's P. Cocker something I'm not sure which. But you know, I am very curious to watch this with my kids because this is one where I don't have a lot of context for it. I've played the video game with them a couple of times. I saw the Nicholas Cage movie Willie's Wonderland, which was kind of like a super cheap version of that. But I'm very interested to watch this from their perspective.

This movie, it's basically like a game and they're really five nights at Freddy's has some of that same thing. The liminal spaces are big now right in video games and in like a particularly in like VR and the other night I made the mistake of picking up a Johnny had his VR helmet out and I put it on and he had a game on there and it had it had recreated the back rooms. And I was like running through there and after about 15 minutes, I shut it off.

I'm like, okay, so many beige walls with shadowy things running behind you. But I can see before I'm freaking out. I don't know. This is one of those with me. I play a lot of games and five nights at Freddy's is in the same concept as something like Roblox or Minecraft or Fortnite, which I watch yourself try. I know we're huge. Yeah, I know we're huge, but I have no frame of reference for almost any other.

But I think it's a cool, I think in general, five nights at Freddy's is a cool concept, but I feel like they've done like 15 games in that franchise at this point. And I think it could be done well. I do. I don't have a whole lot of background on this one. And I think we've all known since the first time we saw those Chuck E. Cheese like dancing and trying to make a horrible idea that was in terms of children's entertainment.

But I guess what I'm interested in is this will be a case of me kind of allowing my kids to bring me into their horror world a little bit. So I kind of like that that you've got something that I pay attention to a lot of stuff, but it's just this kind of a blind spot for me and they're really into it. And my son said to me, my wife, I have an hour and a half video. I want you to watch about the lore. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is how I sound like to other people. Yes, absolutely.

No, I don't even get that far in my conversations with my wife, Nathan. It's just. But no, so I will pencil that in as your kids number one horror film the year. And yeah, but no, I'm very curious about that one because I do think there's animatronic singing, you know, horror objects. I don't know what to say. This is not my movie, but I'm glad that we are making and I see a lot more of it happening. This is a good example of a legit PG 13 horror movie aimed at like a gateway horror film, right?

And I'm seeing more of those where for a while there, I think the PG 13 was getting a bad rap because what was happening is people were trying to make our rated horror films and then diluting them to make them a PG 13 so they could some more tickets. I think what we're seeing now is people taking, you know, stories that would maybe be a goose bumps episode or are you afraid of the dark and and and goosing them and making them a little bit more fearsome, just enough.

So they have a legitimate PG 13 horror movie. It's a legitimate gateway movie. That's how we get more people into this genre. That's how we get more people interested in it, making movies down the road. You have to you have to throw these people a bone once in a while. Yep, that's that and it's slaughterhouse. Yes, pushing the way to the future. Yeah, it's weird how in the 80s it was the R rating that would put passes in the seats on, you know, for horror movies. And now it's PG 13.

Yeah. I wonder why, probably easier to get into those seats in the 80s. Yeah, Victor, if you're not of age, but yeah, it's true. Well, drive-ins were more of a thing. That's what we have to get. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Next up is a Netflix film. And that is sister death. This is a, we were talking a little bit about this. I think before we recorded the Paco Plaza directing this one from Rec fame. This is a prequel, I believe, to Veronica from 2017, 2018.

Isn't that one of those movies from Netflix announced? It's the scariest movie you'll ever see and then sort of winging out. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Don't say that about your movies guys. People passed out and vomited all over the theaters. Yeah. But this setup here is in post Civil War Spain. Narcisa Enobis arrives at an old convent converted into a girls school to become a teacher. Wow. A Spanish film set around the Civil War involving a convent. I haven't seen that one before. But I don't know.

I'm kind of excited for this one guys. I liked Veronica and it doesn't seem like this has, you know, it's not a direct tie-in, like they're forcing a sequel to it. So I'm pretty excited about sister death. I just found out about this one a couple days ago, I feel like. Yeah, I'm on board. Me too. Yep. Okay. So here's a very interesting one. People flesh is coming to VOD 01027 and this stars Heather Graham and Barbara Crampton. Directed by Joe Lynch, who did Mayhem and what else did Joe do?

That might be it. That might be it of the big stuff. But anyway, oh, he did, I think he did Everly, right? That action, action thriller. Oh, yeah. I think you're right. But anyway, this is, I'm kind of excited about this one, about you too, but I'm so excited. After murdering her young patient, a once esteemed psychiatrist helplessly watches her life's spiral into a nightmarish, mouse drum of supernatural hysteria and gruesome deaths all went to a seemingly unstoppable ancient curse.

Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, that's the most poster by far. That cast is great. And you've got, you've got a lot of other people there too, including and Jonah Ray is in this too. Oh, and Bruce Davidson. And of course, you mentioned Barbara Crampton, but I think, yeah, I would be into this because Joe Lynch, he did do Mayhem and Everly. He also did a movie. I had a lot more potential, I think, than it maybe ended up.

Utilizing, which was nights a bad astam that had a lot of respite in actual life's demon. Yeah, it was a fun. I kind of felt like it ended up, but I think it was intended to be more, and then they probably budget issues and things ended up, but it didn't quite reach the heights they are going for. But I like it. He's got a lot of energy. The trailer for this looks fun. It looks weird. It looks original. That's, you know, yeah. Well, this, this is based on the Lovecraft story.

It's based on the thing on the doorstep. Which is a 3B story. Yeah, really, 3B story. You know, Lovecraft was a pretty famous A sexual type, which is probably why there are no women in his stories, but there is a woman character in the thing on the doorstep, and she's not good. But I do, it's a great story, I mean, for what it's worth, and I think this cast is going to really bring it up to date with the thing that, one of the things that Lovecraft fear, which is women.

Yeah. A lot of women in it. Yeah. And if you're like me and think, you know, a Love Heather Graham, it is a certain point where I feel like she hasn't quite, you know, she never got like a showcase really in a lot of ways. You know, you'd see her in Boogie Night's The Like That, but there's never, there's not really like a Heather Graham movie that I can think of like where she's the star.

She is like, looks like she's in almost every frame in this movie, and she is chewing the scenery like nobody's business, and it is glorious to watch just in the trailer alone. I'm like, I'm getting Stuart Gordon vibes watching this trailer. Oh, I love it. So yeah, I'm really looking forward to this. Just jumped to my top of my top of my must see this year. Yeah, it's one of my favorites on this list as well. Next we have a shutter original, and that is when Evil lurks also coming out on the 27.

I like all these really specific titles, it's completely mistaken for anything else. Yeah, it lives inside when Evil lurks. Anyway, I want to see something like, you know, when darkness takes a crap or something like that. So buckle in for this synopsis here, and this is an Argentinian and Uruguay co-production, which I believe the last matinee was that as well, right? Yeah, I like that. So the tagline here is there's no point in praying.

And the synopsis is in a remote village, two brothers find a demon infected man just about to give birth to Evil itself. They decide to get rid of the man, but merely succeed in helping him to deliver the inferno. I'm all about that. Wow. I don't know, I'm all in for this one. This one sounds insane. Yeah, can we get it? So this has its own, I was reading about this recently. There's a mythology within this world where a possessed being is called a rotten.

So these people go around looking for the rottens to sort them out so they don't spread the infection, the possession, the demonic infection throughout like society. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how I'm into it. Yeah. All right, next step is one I don't know if you two will be excited about it all, but it is coming to shutter as well on October 30th. And this is the only one I could find that's releasing around Halloween, at least within the couple days there.

And that is Hell House LLC origins, the Carmichael Manor. And how many, how many subtitles is that? Listen, there's only one colon in this. Yeah, I hope it ends with part one or something like that. Well, I can't figure out if this is, I think it's, I think it's supposed to be its own set of stories, diving into like what happened, but I, that's, that's not the most interesting part of Hell House. I like all three of the Hell House movies, but I don't like them because I want to see

what happened originally or anything. I like them because of, you know, they're kind of dealing with the hauntings and kind of figuring out what went on as they go along. Like, I don't, I don't necessarily care about what's happening in the moment of those hauntings. I like the aftermath, but yeah, I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I like the last two movies I'd see some, but yeah, we have, there needs to be some more Torium on throwing the word origins into your title.

Oh, it wasn't cool the first time it happened. No, no, no either. And video games were littered with that at some point. There were like almost every other one in a series was origins or their revelations or something. It's all the same and it needs to stop, but yeah. Getting into November and I don't have very many left here on my list, coming to Limited is Project Z on November 3rd. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't know what this is. Yeah, so this is a comedy horror and it is Norwegian.

So it seems like we've got a lot of international horror films coming out here in the last part of the year, but yeah. So the snops, this is a group of film students take three unemployed actors to an abandoned motel and then Norwegian mountains to make a zombie film. Fiction suddenly becomes reality when an unknown creature begins to terrorize the film set. So I don't know, I'm sensing some dead snow vibes here could be maybe I'm premature on that, but could be interesting.

I first went to one cut of the dead, but we already have that remade elsewhere. I saw that finally came to VOD by the way. Oh good. I want to see that. The new final. Yeah, Michelle is on a vicious. Yeah, so I'm excited for that. Next up also in Limited and again, hopefully, Limited, I feel like I have a hard time getting to around here.

So hopefully they come to VOD sooner rather than later, but this one is called Dream Scenario coming out on 1110 and this is an A24 film, which I don't like, I realized. It says a shrubby professor who never made it becomes an overnight celebrity after appearing in every, you know what guys, I don't know if this is a horror movie. So I could I could grab this one for you.

This is what I said earlier, the Nicholas Cage, you picked a couple of other movies that looked maybe more interesting when we have here. That's what this is. I do see that when you look it up, it says Comedy Core, but I watch The Trailer of the Day and this seems firmly in the vein of like a eternal sunshine, spotless mind or spike jones slash Charlie Kaufman movie.

The concept is kind of interesting, it's people start seeing Nicholas Cage, but he's the slubby, like you said, the slubby professor Nicholas Cage. This random dude is showing when all these people's dreams and they also start to realize they're seeing this same guy, it becomes like a minor celebrity, he doesn't know why it's happening. And my wife says, well, where's the point where he goes crazy and starts like, you know, being crazy cage and attacking people in their dreams.

And there's an element at the end of the trailer to sort of cut a bunch of scenes that look like that might happen, but it's clear that it's more of a metaphor about what happens when someone who is very much a personal person who really doesn't like to have a lot of attention thrust their way, suddenly finds themselves inexplicably in the middle of something, you know, and at first it's great and then it's not so great.

But if you like that quirky weird sort of lighthearted sci-fi mind bending stuff that Charlie Kaufman does, that's what dream scenario looks like. Yeah. Okay. It's got a decent cast. I just didn't know if it was a horror film or not reading that synopsis. The trailer did not, like there's a, again, I think there's an editor somewhere was like, we've got to give him a shot.

Now there is a scene where Nicholas Cage is sort of jokingly, he has like the, he's got the Freddy Krueger glove on his hand like wiggling the fingers around, but that's clearly in context, he's just kind of, you know, he's doing a normal go to look what I could do, you know, it's not not like he's like attacking. I love his look in that movie. I'm looking at some.

Yeah, and still honestly these are the kinds of movies along with movie like Pig from a few years ago, these little kinds of movies at Mandy that I want to see Nicholas Cage make where he kind of belongs because the, in the energy and the intelligence and the creativity are matching the weird stuff he brings to the screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So those movies are great.

Yeah. Movie No One in this one, I don't think there's a question whether this is horror on November 17th coming in wide theaters is Eli Roth's Thanksgiving. The movie based on a trailer. And I don't, I don't know. I mean, I watched the trailer for this one in it. I don't know. Eli Roth isn't necessarily someone who I love all of his movies or anything, but I don't know. I'll wait and see. I think I'll wait and see what people think of it before rushing to get it to it.

I am more or less an Eli Roth fan. I really liked hostile to. I thought that the, the, the rich versus poor angle is so creepy in that movie that it, I think it enhances the entire horror experience. I've never seen it done so well. But I did like Green and Ferno. And when this trailer was shown at the Grindhouse festival, those two movies, it really was striking. And I don't think we have enough horror movies set at Thanksgiving.

So I'm kind of surprised they waited this long to make that trailer into a movie when the others came earlier. Yeah. And you know, the one thing I'll say about this is, with any commentary on Roth right now, is the trailer from Grindhouse was really its own thing. All of them, all of the war, machete and everything else, he was meant to look like an old Grindhouse like 80s, you know, cheap boy horror film.

This movie, while it's still called Thanksgiving and maybe we'll feature, I don't know how it's going to feature some of the things that were in that trailer. But like the overall feel of the film that they're advertising looks to me like just sort of a modern slasher derived from screen possibly. There's nothing in that trailer that says to me, it really looks like it's inspired by the horror films of the 80s, the way that the Grindhouse trailer was. That makes sense.

It doesn't necessarily look like a bad movie, but I don't know that it looks like the movie people wanted back in 2006. Right. Yeah. I mean, the horror looks pretty extreme, just judging from the Grindhouse trailer. And I think if Eli Roth is smart, all he is going to do is connect the dots of the trailer and make and fill it in with a movie. And I think he's going to have something memorable. But see, they have a new trailer. Have you seen the new trailer, Victor? I have not seen it yet.

Yeah, that one's playing in the theaters. And that one looks like almost like a generic horror film. Maybe it won't be, but it looks like it's been made to just look like a modern slasher. Maybe there's going to be a few cool kills, but it doesn't have the wildness of that weird trailer. Well, you know, I hope that's the marketing department going, yeah, the screen movies are pretty popular. So let's make our movie look like that. And maybe that will sell tickets.

But I hope that Roth is up to his usual over the top antics. I am. Yeah, I don't know how you make that movie based off that trailer and not yet, at least some of that craziness. But I'm just commenting that for a movie, it's weird to make that movie when the reason you're making it is the cash in all those people that wanted to see it, you know, 15 years ago. Right. And then pitch it to a totally different demographic. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I don't know.

We'll have to wait and see, guys, but we'll have to check it out. Yeah. I mean, I didn't even know it was coming at all until just recently. So what do we have to lose? Yeah. That same day coming to limited is do not disturb. And I'm just going off the titles. I just as the last look at the poster. You got to look at the poster. Yeah. But this one says Chloe and Jack traveled Miami for their honeymoon. Amidst the flashy neon and slummy. Sorry.

Amidst the flashy neon and sunny beaches, they decide that a peyote experience will strengthen their marriage unbeknownst to them. They've been given a rare and powerful strand that awakens the desire to eat human flesh. So yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Wait a minute. I think that is another do not disturb. I think that we're talking about a different one here. Yeah, I think that one came out in 2022. And the one that's about to come out is do not disturb also. You know, right? Yeah. I see it here.

He'll be your getcha. It's Turkish. Yeah. Okay. So that one's coming. And this looks like it's more like a comedy. Like, no, so no. So maybe maybe you're 100% right. Yeah. Let me see. I'm trying to double check. I have that we're looking at is not a horror as far as I can tell. Yeah. The one about the peyote has only played at festivals so far. So I'm assuming that's the one we're talking about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you're right. You're right. It's the John Ainsley.

No, you're all good because I was like, oh crap. Do I get that wrong? Nope. But carry on. Okay. So yeah, don't know anything about that one, but you know, sounds interesting at least. And then the last one I have on my list and then I'll open it up if you guys have any more films anyway is one called raging grace, which is coming out on December 8th to limited theaters. And this one is, yeah, I had to check because it does have a tag-a-law spoken language here, but it is an English film.

And it's an undocumented Filipino immigrant lands a job as a care worker for a seemingly terminal old man, securing a better life for her inner daughter, but a dark discovery threatens to destroy everything she strived for and holds dear. Very cool. Yeah, it's directed by Paris Tsar-Cia and it won the best debut at South by Southwest.

Yeah. I don't know what to expect in this one, because Victor, because listen to these, the genre tags that Letterbox have, mystery, comedy, thriller, drama, horror. They've covered all the bass. Yeah, apparently that's what Tsar-Cia's known for is genre combining. Yeah, I'm here for that. But yeah. Okay, did you guys have any others that I missed here as far as horror movies coming out?

No. I'm surprised there aren't more, well, maybe not that surprised, but I guess we're also getting that point where obviously what's happening is due to the strike and everything you're not seeing as many bigger movies at the end of the year, you know? Yeah, and I think it calms down usually, but I think a lot of that too, Nathan, is a lot of these movies, the release dates announced like within a month that were a little bit more from the release date.

So I think as we get through October, maybe we do have a lot of events. You got a small indie horror film and I know there are some that I've seen at festivals that probably be rolling out this year when the couple that have it, some of them already have talked to me and stuff like that, but obviously already come out. And yeah, I think there's none that I can think of right off the top of my head, a major one that we're really missing or anything like that.

Yeah, and I know speaking of that, I mean, like dark harvest and sister death, I think with just within the last couple of weeks, we found out about that those were coming. So could be anything. Did we cover talk to me on the show? Yes. That may have been when I had COVID because I know you were viewed it with us. Oh, okay. Did we release that yet? No, it's on the one that I finished, but it's not yet. I like it. Yeah, because I liked it. Yeah. No, I think you were on.

Yeah, I think you're on there. I'm trying to remember now. Maybe it was just you and me, you and I, like, I don't. It's possible. I don't look back. I thought we reviewed it. I mean, I've got the we did review it. And I think I think we all review it. Yeah, we did review it. But it was I just put it all together. It was when we did the Freedkin.

Oh, yes, yeah, we reviewed it that night because, um, yeah, no, it was a good review because we were all solid on it, but we were talking about like the, yeah, the perspective of it and like how it was done and what made it work and whatnot. Yeah, we just reviewed a bunch of random stuff after the Freedkin thing. I remember like a subspecies five and all that, but yeah. Oh, yeah. But yeah, another example of Australia coming on strong.

Yes. Yep. Okay, guys, you want to talk about some horror TV here coming up and I'm going to be lean on you guys for most of this, but I'll go down my list. If you guys have anymore, I'm sure there's got to be more, but you guys have any more. Let me know afterwards. But American Horror Story Delicate, here's your part one, Nathan. American Horror Story Delicate part one.

And that debuted on September 20th on FX, I believe, and probably is on Hulu, but either of you guys watching that one or checking in. I just saw it last night. The first episode I wanted to check it out. We are back in the world of sort of pregnancy or Emma Roberts is in it is, you know, she's the lead character Kim Kardashian is as well. It's playing with some interesting things.

The first episode, like most of the other American Horror Stories has a lot of kind of strange imagery and some kind of all-flaw ideas, but you know, one of my issues that I've always sort of had with American Horror Story is just me personally. Is it, it deals with the themes or not even the themes.

It deals with the tropes of horror, like the ideas, the things that horror movies often feature in them, but very rarely does it ever feel like actual horror or rather the way the stories are constructed, it doesn't feel like the people making American Horror Story, the Victor and I are talking about this, actually seem to like horror as a genre.

And so I know most of the seasons always seem to veer off into sort of what would be more like a dark or quirky trauma with the imagery that we associate with horror films, but yeah, this first episode has some great setup, but I'm just curious where it's going to go. Yeah, that's how I feel about it too. Like I really like the first season of the show, the Hell House or whatever it was called. Murder House or something like that.

Yeah, I thought that was cool, although it went on a little long for my taste, but I thought that they were really trying to make it scary with some other elements mixed in, but as the seasons went on and the concepts sounded really cool, so I kept tuning into like first couple episodes, but then I felt it was exactly what you just said. Like Fowlchuck and Murphy, like they did Nip Tuck, which is not a horror show, it's about plastic surgery and it's a drama, but it's pretty good.

It's pretty good and it's very gory for a drama. So I think they brought a lot of that sensibility. So I think it's the gory that they really appreciate, not really the horror elements for the most part. Yeah, and I don't think I've watched one of these since the first season, but it just seems like these FX shows go one for decades. Yeah, I don't know, Amber Roberts is a, I liked her in a screen queens while back, but yeah. Yeah, so far it's interesting.

Sorry, Nathan. No, I was just saying so far. It's interesting. The production values are there. It's quirky and weird and borderline comedic, but we'll see. This next one I'm very excited for and that is suburban screams. Sorry, John Carpenter's suburban screams, which debut Friday the 13th on October 13th on peacock. And this is a six part mini series. And the snops I have here is an exploration of true tales of terror that took place in seemingly perfect American hometowns.

Awesome. Yeah. Yeah, hey, and I didn't know Carpenter was. I was directing anything, so I'm pretty happy about that. I list four directors here, so I don't know if he'll be directing all of the episodes, but he is at least directing one. So yeah, historically, I have enjoyed anthologies that John Carpenter is a part of. So I might like this. And I think I listed this wrong. Sorry, I listed this one a little early, jumped the gun. But I'll have to go back here a little bit.

One ten four debut on sci-fi is Chuck E season three. Now Nathan, I know you're at least a fan of this. I don't know if you are too, Victor, but I haven't seen it yet, but I heard it's good. Yeah, I am a fan and I was not expecting honestly to be into it. The child's play series has been like all over the map. Now Mancine has been involved in pretty much most of everything, not related to the remake. And Chuck E's reinvented itself a few times in different iterations.

So when you get to the TV show, it's like, what else can you possibly do? And they had the challenge of introducing us to some new characters and a whole new storyline that we could follow. And then finding this way to thread every single other Chuck E movie minus the remake into a world where all of that co-exist. And remember, this is a series where at one point, you know, Jennifer Tilly was actually like taken over by the spirit of Tiffany the doll.

And now you have to find a way to tie all that together. And they've been doing an amazing job of it. It's the weirdest, strangest ways so much so that last season there was an episode where the entire cast of Bound gets together to have a dinner party and have it as reaked. Jennifer Tilly is playing herself and Joe Panthaloni is there and Gina Gershon and everybody. So I mean, it goes, and that's just one example of an episode. They go wild places.

They develop all of these people's characters, including Chuck E and Tiffany and their children who are possessing human bodies now. And bringing back every single character you could possibly think of, but doing it in this way where it's all threaded together and it makes a sort of mad sense because some of those movies, you know, child's play one doesn't seem to exist in the same world as bright of Chuck E, right? And yet they find a way to make it feel cohesive.

And Fiona Dorif is in it and you've got everyone coming back and, you know, it's pretty impressive what they're doing. I'm not saying it's the greatest thing you'll ever see. It's definitely firmly in the hard comedy camp, but I like it a lot. Every episode, it's like they're finding new interesting things to do. Cool. Yeah, I need to get to that because I am a fan of most of the child's play in Chuck E movies. So yeah, I've got to get to that.

I know you have saying it's praises before Nathan, but you don't watch any TV that I recommend. It's fine. Hey, I'm getting into it. I'm working on it. I've got one coming up for you on screaming through the ages in a couple months, but we'll, whenever I get out of the October stuff. All right. On that same day, sci-fi is also running the second season of surreal estate. Have either of you looked into this one? No, I've never heard of it.

So you would think, I thought this was a comedy horror, but it's actually about, it's played straight from what I understand. I haven't seen the first season. It's about a group of people who do the jobs that no one wants to, and that is take care of the haunted and possessed and the house is with a bad history. So that's interesting. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty interested in that one as well, but I've never heard of it before looking this stuff up. On 10-12 on Netflix, we have the Mike Flanagan.

I'm assuming it's a mini series, Fall in the House of Usher. Yeah, that's when I'm very excited for Nathan. You have gotten me to watch the haunting of Hill House. Not midnight mass yet. Yeah, I gotta do that. I gotta do that. That's gotta be an October watch, I think, for me I'm thinking. But midnight mass is the jewel in the crown of Mike Flanagan. Yeah, that's one of the best horror things I've seen in a few years, I think. But I'm excited for this one. It looks cool.

I don't know everything that's going to try, and that's one of the things that makes me eager to see it. But I do like the way that threading in all the different poe references, and it's not simply a house of usher sort of like redo.

Yeah. Yeah, Edgar Allen Poe, I mean, anyone, including myself who writes horror owes a debt to him, because he's as far as I know, the first American to really take that upon himself to be known for that genre, and he inspired Lovecraft and Lovecraft inspired Stephen King, and Stephen King inspired the rest of us. So, he's the man. Yeah, you can make that case with Rillor and mystery detective stuff as well. Oh, yeah. And the rumor is the first detective novel or detective narrative written.

Crazy about how influential he really was. Yeah, and he wasn't necessarily just whir, but the macabre in general, and that kind of a lot of crimes took place in his, yeah. But yeah, yeah. But yeah, I'm totally in work for this. And it's starring Carla Gugino, who did Jeff, of course, game with Flanagan as well. Yeah, I was wife in there. Oh, it's just what? I didn't know they were married. Yes, yeah. But I had a way to pass. Carla Gugino. I is married to whom. Oh, do I have that backwards?

No, Katie Siegel is married. Katie Siegel, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Katie Siegel. That's my bad. Oh, well. Not that either, which I love both of those novel stuff. So I'm not any nepotism at work there, but I'm a Katie Siegel fan too. Yeah, no, I like both of them. Next up is one that you probably have both seen. And I haven't creep show season four debut on Friday the 13th, October 13th, when Shutter and AMC.

Cool. Yeah, I like, I don't like every episode, but every season I've seen one or two episodes that I really enjoy. Yeah, I'd say that usually, like they, the easily what pair, like two of them together. And there's usually one that's like fine. But sometimes there will be, like you said, every season there's probably at least two or three that are a combination of solidly good to, oh, wow, I will watch that again. The hit rates better than a lot of other similar shows of recent time.

I can think of in terms of anthologies where they're doing it like a week to week thing. But there was an episode of the first season, the House of the Head, that I thought was amazing. That was great. And they did the, was it like PBS or the Dead or something? The episode where the Necronomicon is unleashed on like, yeah, Pittsburgh. Yes, and there's a Bob Ross stand-in who has to do battle with the Deadites. I thought that was amazing. That was genius.

Yeah. So they have every, they're worth seeing for sure. And I think that what they managed to do is get the like vibe of creep show right enough that like it just does feel like creep show, you know, it's not just like some kind of cheesy thing that's like, you know, they take swings, they don't always head everything, but they take some swings. Yeah. And I think Greg Nikotero is one of the executive producers. So there's a lot of makeup effects on the series. They do look pretty good in that.

And they do weird things. They'll do an animated episode or they'll do, they did a very bizarre like holiday episode involving like a a group of like monsters that were being threatened by like a robotic Santa that had been sent to destroy the mall. Oh, yeah, yeah. Super weird. But yeah, that so creep show is fun. And I definitely think yeah, yeah, they have what maybe like five episodes a season usually or in each one will usually be like a two-parter.

Usually you'll get at least one that's kind of fun. Yeah, exactly. They're like 40, 40, 45 minutes long and there's two stories per episode like he said. Yeah. And there's the one that was a season ender where I remember Justin Long had like a virtual reality machine where he was going into the set of or into the actual film of horror express, which is a weird idea. Yeah, yes. I love that movie. It's great. And they've recast.

They actually have the footage, but they've recast certain roles so you're watching him inside of the horror express. Yes. Nathan, you know, I'm going to I'm interested in a lot of these and I'm going to try my very best to have a a top TV show list at the end of the year. So that's my goal. Well, a couple others that I do want to mention.

This would be again for people who have kids and we're just talking about Justin Long and horrible things seem to happen to Justin Long when he's in movies and horror movies, particularly. So maybe because this is on Disney Plus, we get a catch a break, but I don't know.

The Goosebumps has another series, many series coming out and it's going to come to Disney Plus and it looks like it is a I don't know that it's an anthology in a sense that there are several stories, but I think it may take one story and kind of expand upon it. But it looks like a horror story aimed at younger people and doesn't look like it's not like the Goosebumps films from a few years ago that were sort of like horror comics, really like almost supernatural jumanji, you know what I mean?

Yeah. With Jack Black. Those movies are fun. This one looks like they're maybe trying to do one step up and make these the younger characters are just a little bit older and the horror looks like it's maybe a little bit more like a mystery ghost haunting kind of story. So it looks like they're aiming maybe a little bit higher in terms of telling an actual horror story as opposed to sort of like a colorful story with a bunch of monsters at it.

Yeah, I was curious about that because the original Goosebumps and the books as well are very much aimed at a younger audience. And I think so are the movies as well. So it was curious to I know some of Arles Dines and other stuff has been aimed at an older audience. This is still within the audience that will be of the show of the TV shows, but I think that it looks like they're trying to tell me a more cohesive story.

My comparison point would be anyone who did watch the last few, are you afraid of the dark like mini series that they go out? It looks like it'd be in the vein of that. And if you told me that this is called that, are you afraid of the dark? I would think that they would fit in perfectly with that. So it looks very similar to that, I think. Cool. I'll definitely be checking that out. Nice. And speaking of horror, the horror of Dolores Roach, I don't know if we've covered that.

We've talked briefly about it on a previous episode. I think at that point you had only seen like an episode or something. Well, yeah, I finished them and I can say that if you are into Cannibal Gore, hang on till episode five, they really let loose some pretty indelible imagery and that they really embrace the horror at that point. But yeah, the horror of Dolores Roach is a gender flipped, swini-tod story with a framing device that kind of sets it apart from the original.

But yeah, all starcast and it takes place in a Hispanic neighborhood of Brooklyn. So it's got a lot of that local color. So if you're a listener in Brooklyn or Manhattan, you'll probably dig the way they portray the city. It's nice. And yeah, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was cool. Not particularly scary, but a very involving story and great characters and wonderful cast. So yeah, recommended. Oh, it's on prime. Oh, yeah, I couldn't know. And sorry, guys, you guys jumped the gum here.

I got a couple more. Nathan, I don't know if, have you either of you guys heard of Shining Vale? Yes, I liked it. I saw it. It was 2022. I think Courtney Cox, right? And Greg, and it seems like it's more of a comedy. But yeah, that's season two of that is starting on October 13th on stars. I know the synopsis had a puppy line about, you know, she's trying to decide whether she's what is it depressed or possessed. It turns out the symptoms are very similar. Yeah, it was fun.

It wasn't like maybe amazing, but I did like it. It was fun. Yeah. Then the only other one I had here, and then Nathan, if you had anymore, was just American horror stories. And three, which I don't know what the difference is. It seems like there's a bunch of spinoffs at this point. That is a debuting on October 26th on FX.

So the difference is, and this happened last night because it did my typical thing where I watched the first episode of the new show and then promptly like passed out and when woke up, I was watching, I wake up, see a little bit and I'm like, what am I watching? Like is this like a greatest hits of American horror? The American horror stories is actually an anthology where the episodes are standalone stories each time.

And what I do like about this is because of the standalone shows and they've kind of got to tell like a little bit of a story. A lot of times they're linked to things you've seen in other seasons, but they tend to be a little bit more horror-esque because they have to have that opening hook.

And then they're going to have drive into something kind of crazy and then wrap it up so that they don't have a lot, you know, the longer seasons end up with lots of episodes with quirky off-shoots here and there and they don't focus on the horror. This is a little bit closer to actual horror stories because they have only a little bit of time to tell each one. Cool. But yeah, that's about all I have to either of you have any more upcoming horror-json shows you can think of.

There are a couple coming out now because some of these are new meaning they've not aired before. Some of them I don't know how much they are horror. One of those is they've got a show coming up on one of the one big networks I think it's on NBC. It's called Found. It's a procedural show. It's got Shunnan Hampton plays a woman who they have a crisis for that they're trying to find people who have been reported missing in the US.

Like the people who kind of slid through the cracks and she was a person who was kidnapped when she was younger and she basically it looks like she finds and captures the person that was torturing her when she was younger who's played by Mark Paul Gosler from Say by the Bell. But then she's also kind of she's picked him up to have him help her get in the minds of these other killers.

So it's that science and the lambs thing but with this very personal sort of veneer of this person that was victimized returning to the predator but sort of recruiting them for other means. So definitely has some sounds and lambs vibes but the trailer I saw looked interesting. Cool. Oh cool. Um, trying to think of what else. I guess it is enough gore it could be adjacent that they've got a spin off of the boys coming called Gen V. Oh yeah. I think that's just about ready to drop.

The walking dead I've kind of given up on the walking dead but they're playing with walking dead spin offs out there. Darryl Dixon has his own walking dead spin off and of course you've got the one that has Nekin and who is it? You know, it's another walking dead. Is that fear the walking dead? No fear the walking dead is separate. This is the city. Is it maybe city of the dead or something like that? I have no idea. I didn't watch anything past the first season so I'm lost on this.

This is well. Yeah, there's a few. Yeah, so there's plenty of that out there. I, um, not, not into a lot of it but, um, at some point, I don't know when I guess it's maybe still filming but we do have a, isn't welcome to Darry supposed to drop? Uh, no, it's, it's not going to be out this year. Um, I think there are several, because there's several of those. I think like Crystal Lake was supposed to be out this year. I don't think that's ever going to actually get really. No, I don't think so.

I know they're actually making welcome to Darryl. There's a difference. Yes. There is a big difference there. Let me make sure before we, um, and I knew I was announced was they were doing the Wicker Man as well and I don't know. No, it's scheduled to release in, uh, one max in 2024. Oh, okay. Welcome to Darryl. So, yep, we're safe on that one.

But, uh, yeah, I've been watching, um, shelter on prime, which is a horror, I'm putting it in the horror adjacent category because it's kids, it's like high school kids dealing with adult badasses. So, um, there's, it's basically, it's a mystery show. It's a pretty good though. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good. I'm a big fan of Harlan Cobin now.

Like I've, a lot of a stuff got adapted in the last couple of years and I've pretty much liked all the adaptations, um, and, uh, this is a kid who after a traumatic accident moves, um, back, or back into New Jersey where there's legends of a creepy woman in a house, but there's some connection to his parents, one of whom is mentally traumatized and the other is possibly dead, but, um, he might be alive somewhere.

So there's some kind of cover up and the whole thing rests on a missing high school student girl that the main character likes. So, um, yeah, I think it's a beer rally, uh, uh, tray. I think you would do it. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. Okay. Yeah, and it's, it's horror for the kids, but not so much for the audience. It's more like a mystery show. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'll make a note of that one for sure. But, uh, is that it on, uh, series? Yeah, I don't think I have anything else.

Okay. I've got a, um, couple of quick hitters here for horror games coming out, um, and again, I'm very much like a single player, uh, person here. So if there's any of the more multiplayer, which I don't think so, I don't think killer clowns is coming out until next year or anything like that, but, um, first up, I'm going to, I think all three of these, you would be interested in, in some way, Victor, um, because of the subject matter.

Um, but first up, I have Alan Wake 2, which is coming out on October 27th. This is a sequel to the 2010 game, um, about a horror writer who kind of gets, uh, ends up in his own story and has to fight off, um, various enemies using a flashlight. Um, now the second one seems to be. We play in a bit different, but I'm very excited for this one as a fan of the original Alan Wake. Um, had either of you guys played that the original, no, I haven't.

I've heard of it, but yeah, it, um, they have, they just released a newer version of it. I think a couple of years ago on modern consoles, but it's very much, it has that quirky, um, Twin Peaks town type stuff and, you know, Remedy is a, um, are they Norwegian? I think they're a Norwegian team.

Um, so they have that kind of, uh, European flavor to it as well, European Twin Peaks, but, um, set in America, of course, but it's, uh, yeah, it's a very interesting game in the, I think the story and everything are cool. The gameplay doesn't necessarily hold up or gets repetitive a little bit, but it seems like Alan Wake 2, they're going all in on it. So that one seems really cool.

Uh, Quantum Air coming out on November 3rd is more of an indie game, but it's about um, a future where AI has become this mandatory thing and the, the government kind of decides, you know, who's essential and who's not essential and this is, uh, a team is sent in to investigate this fire and they end up, um, stumbling into like a cosmic horror nightmare.

Uh, so it has the, you know, the AI components, but also the cosmic horror and I don't know how, you never know with the indie games how they're going to play, but it seems like more of a shooter as well, but pretty interesting one. Cool. And then Victor, this might most be up your alley here. Um, banishers ghost of new Eden. And this is done by, um, I'm blanking now. Um, anyway, uh, don't nod. This is done by don't nod. They did the series called Life is Strange as well. Yeah, yeah.

And one called Vampir, which was set, you know, in around this time period, but, uh, this synopsis is a new Eden 1695. Antia, Dwarte and Red Mac, Ray are lovers and banishers ghost hunters who vowed to protect the living from the threat of lingering ghost inspectors following disastrous last mission. Antia is fatally wounded, becoming one of the spirits she loves. In the haunted wilds of North America, the couple desperately searches for a way to liberate Antia from her new plight.

So, uh, that seems very interesting. Uh, and you can play switch between, same thing with Alan Wake, there's two characters switching between, but you're switching between the living and the dead in this one. Um, as you try to find a way to read a unite, I guess, but cool. Yeah, it sounds good. So that's all I can see for the end of the year. Um, but yeah, I don't know if you guys had anything else on that. Um, I don't know if you guys have any other sections or not, but, um, I don't think so.

Okay. Nathan, your kids in any more liminal spaces or back rooms, games that are coming out, heard something and then he was gone. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I, I guess it was clicked off. I don't know why, but, um, yeah. So they're, they're into those sorts of games, they, but they're, they're more into like the row blocks, sort of versions of those games and there's so many different ones out there, but like, I was walking through spirit Halloween store today.

And it's like, now so much of the stuff has found its way into like this, like, guys, so all these costumes for these things, I'm like, I don't know what half of this is. It's, it's, it's horror, but it's like horror, leeched of any kind of, like, you talk about it being down to just like jumps, gares and uneasy feelings, you know, there's almost no like content.

Yeah. Yeah. But hey, that's, I mean, it's, uh, I think, you know, you'd have people believe that everything is at like that skidmer rank level, but there's lots of like, stuff just being sort of, uh, spewed out into the, into the general consciousness in terms of horror that there are a lot of people who feel to people like my kids that, uh, there are interesting and original and kind of creepy and are pushing it boundaries.

Uh, it's just, it's always different than what the mainstream wants you to think of it. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think that about wraps up our end of the year preview here. I think we covered a lot of ground. Do we want to go into what we'll be doing up next for the show? Yeah. I think we can talk about at least Halloween, like what we are October plans are for Halloween. Uh, we're going to have a series of episodes.

We basically tried to pick three different topics and I will, uh, we can let everyone sort of let everyone know what the topics are. But we then each of us picked two movies under the guys of that topic. We tried to keep them. Uh, there were, they're pretty high level topics and then we wanted to be able to have movies that we could recommend around the holiday starting and have an episode that would be out almost every week for October.

So in October, we've got a few other things going on, but what we do have are three themed episodes. I will reveal the first one and you can reveal the others. You guys, if you want, uh, the first of them we decided to do an episode on witches. So what we threw out there was hey, we're going to pick which movies each of us have picked to.

I will save what those movies actually are for the episode, but we planned also have just a brief discussion about, uh, witches, how they play into movies and then also I think we were looking at concepts, the mythological concepts and the social concepts of witches and how that is played out over the years and how our perception of what a witch is had differs, you know, depending on where we are in in history.

So that's going to be what episode I will say that I think we picked some pretty interesting films to talk about this won't be routine. Although in our general discussion will probably hit a lot of the movies. Everyone expects us to talk about. I think the movies we will talk about are a little bit off the beaten path. Yeah, off the beaten path and I can say from the movies that you guys picked that I've watched, they are all excellent and a couple of them I have not seen yet until last week.

Do you want to tell, uh, tell everyone what our next, uh, our next episode will be after the witches episode? Yes, we are also covering the, I guess, theme of haunted places. So yeah, there are six movies coming to be reviewed by us. Same mentality. We tried to pick ones that are a little different, um, and maybe ones that you haven't seen before, but ones that we really, really like. And I can't wait to talk to you guys about this.

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this one. And I think we talked about also having a general discussion about haunted places in terms of. Yeah, famous, but real haunted places across, you know, really can be across the world, probably across the country, with more of our perspective. Uh, and the movies again, we've chosen, I think, are a little bit off of the beaten path and really kind of examine that idea of what does it, what does a haunted place look like?

Mm hmm. Yep. And what was the third one? Yeah, so the third one we are going with movies set on our round Halloween, and I got to tell you this one's filled with the movies we picked with a lot of cult classics, but I think pound from pound this might be the, the most heavy hitting top or the most heavy hitting topic with the movies that we picked.

Yeah, this was just a joy to go back through and rewatch a lot of these movies and, yeah, I think in line with the other ones, I don't know if we plan on talking about our Halloween experiences or Halloween in general, but I think that one's going to be a fun one. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what we have to look forward to coming up anyway, um, do we want to throw out any plugs or anything before we go?

Well, I mean, uh, yeah, we can, you can find all of us at various places, you can find myself over at Phantom Galaxy, uh, train Victor over there, quite a bit. Bill and I are getting back into a group of episodes coming out for October, we're going to do something a little bit different because both of us have separate horror shows, so we'll probably do something a little bit outside of the realm of horror on Phantom Galaxy for October, but, but there'll be some crossover.

Yeah, and yeah, that's that's where you can find me. And also on Instagram, same moniker and, um, yeah, I, I post cat picks and sunsets and movie reviews. But yeah, um, I, yeah, I'm on a few podcasts and I am, if you go, if tune into either one of those feeds, I always alert what podcast episodes I'm on, so that's still the best way to get at me.

Um, I'm also a writer, I wrote, uh, the Sound of Fear, not the most recent thing I've written, but that's the most concentrated place where my work exists. And it's, it's called the Sound of Fear, and if you just look it up, look a Victor H. Rodriguez on Amazon, it'll pop up. And if you don't want to buy the book, you can just listen to me perform the stories on my limited series podcast inside the Sound of Fear, which is still available anywhere, find podcasts are available. So check it out.

Yeah, and you can find me over on screaming through the ages where you can also find Nathan and soon to be hopefully Victor as well. And we've talked about, um, but yeah, for October, I'll be having a couple bonus episodes and then the theme that I'm focusing on this year is folk or, um, and I think I'm going to be taking a little different look at folk or at least in the first episode I'm putting out.

And I'm a little bit different to go through than Geolos, which existed mainly for a period of five years, but, um, that's what I'll be covering in October, you can check that out over there, but yeah, thanks guys for jumping on this and going through this fall preview. I think this was your idea, Nathan, and I, I do like the idea of doing these and we could just go through what we're excited for. And honestly, it just helps me get a list together of what I need to watch and want to watch.

Absolutely. Yeah, there, and there are some gems that I can't wait to see from the end of the year, so yeah, very cool. And that's going to wrap up tonight's episode. So thank you. If you enjoyed this episode or any of the other episodes of HMP, please go over to Apple Podcasts and leave us a review. Five Star Reviews help us just to spread the word on the show.

The final thing I want to mention and I'll put a link in the show notes is regarding Victor Rodriguez. He got an opportunity to be interviewed by the horrwriters of America. That interview is available over on his website. I've put the link specifically in the show notes under a heading related to the interview so you can check out and find it there. Be sure again to check out his podcast, which is inside the sound of fear related to his anthology book of short stories, the sound of fear.

Again, those links will be available in the show notes. And until next time, this is horror movie podcast where we're dead serious about horror movies. I remember he was about to die and then die.

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