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Hoops Tonight - Why Bronny James struggled in Lakers debut + Grading Warriors offseason moves

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Jason Timpf reacts to Bronny James and Dalton Knecht’s NBA debuts with the Los Angeles Lakers in summer league. Jason explains how even though Bronny struggled in his first game, he still believes he can be a valuable player for the Lakers as he can defend, and shoot from 3. Jason then dives into the offseason for the Golden State Warriors and debates whether Steph Curry, Draymond Green, and the Warriors can defend after acquiring Buddy Hield, DeAnthony Melton, and Kyle Anderson after losing Klay Thompson to the Dallas Mavericks. Last, Jason reacts to the Sacramento Kings trading for DeMar Derozan from the Chicago Bulls as they try and contend for a Western Conference title.

4:15 - Introduction

6:00 - Bronny James debut

23:30 - Warriors offseason moves

38:30 - DeMar DeRozan trade

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Slash Baseball. All right, welcome to Hoops tonight. You're at the volume. Happy Monday, everybody. Ovall. If you guys had a great weekend, Hope you enjoyed the holiday. We took a little break ourselves. We've been off the last five days, but it's very good to be back and we have a jam packed show for you guys. Today. We're going to talk a little bit about the summer League debuts from Barnie James as well as Dalton connect After that, I want to get into the Golden State Warriors. They

had an interesting weekend. They ended up getting Buddy Healed in a sign in trade to replace that Klay Thompson type of role of movement shooter off the bench. I kind of want to take a look at the Warriors off season as a whole right now. With Buddy Held in the picture, Kyle Anderson in the picture, of de Anthony Melton in the picture, what does a Lori market in trade look like? Is it worth it to include a guy like Jonathan Kaminga in a deal like that?

I want to dive into the Warriors off season. And then at the tail end of the show, DeMar Derozen is now with the Sacramento Kings in a very interesting deal that gets three years and seventy four million dollars for Damarrow. But since Harrison Barnes to the San Antonio Spurs, I actually really like the basketball fit of Derozen with Sacramento. We're going to talk about that, but I ask some concerns about Sacramento's roster moving forward that we'll get into.

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all right, let's talk some basketball. So an underwhelming NBA Summer League debut for Brownie James four points, two for nine, shooting at a couple of assists, a couple of rebounds, and his steel. Before we get into any of the actual kind of analysis side of things, I want to just kind of give you guys my impression on summer league basketball in general. This is I've been to Summer

League the last two years. I've always watched Summer League very closely as an opportunity to learn about these prospects as they start playing against other pros. And that's the thing, Like, whatever you want to say about you know how much NBA level talent is on the floor when you go to Summer league these are pros. Most of these guys were you know, all conference selections when they were coming out of whether it was they played mid major basketball,

they played high major Division one basketball. A lot of these guys play professionally overseas. Like this is a good amount of talent, right, Like this is a good opportunity to see your favorite prospects play against really talented players. That said, there is a weird dynamic that takes place in summer league that leads to some really ugly basketball

that can make it difficult to learn about these kids. So, for instance, there's a desperation that you see across the board that kind of leads to different results on both ends of the floor. So that desperation is called I want to be an NBA player. I will do whatever it takes to be an NBA player. I'm going to leave my heart and soul, blood, sweat, and tears everything

on this floor to be an NBA player. Right And while there are guys out there that have deals locked up, like Brownie James, like Dalton Kennet, guys that are first round picks, the majority of the players on the floor in these summer league environments are guys that may or may not be on an NBA roster next year and more than likely not right. And so that leads to a certain level of fighting for your NBA life that you see on the court. Now, how does that manifest

on both ends of the floor. Well, on the defensive end of the floor, that manifests with crazy level of intensity, ball pressure flying around in rotation, guys sliding their feet like they've never slid their feet before, crashing the defensive glass like that manifests in a good way on the defensive end, but then on the offensive end and manifests in poor decision making. So if you're a player that thinks you can shoot at an NBA level and you get a half decent look at a jump shot, you

better believe that thing's going up. If you're a guard and you want to demonstrate that you can run second, second side action at the NBA level, you're gonna be coming off that dribble handoff looking to shoot right. Like, there are players out there that are natural ball movers that don't know how to play basketball anyway other than the right way. But when you mix that with the other half of the guys on the floor kind of hunting their own shot for the sake of trying to

demonstrate that they can play at the NBA level. It just breaks that up. It breaks up the flow of the game. Like again, like you'll see a guy make a nice driving kick that should flow into another driving kick, but he might just jack up a three, or you might driving kick and there might be a decent spot up look, but instead of taking it, he might call for a ball screen and run another action and jack up a shot, right, Like, there's just a lot of

poor offensive decision making. So how do you beat elite, focused, energized defense with quality offense And you're just not getting that at the summer league level. And so that weird dynamic of desperate defensive effort with desperate yet poor offensive decision making just leads to a mess on the basketball court. So that's the kind of thing that I want us to keep in mind as we're watching. Like Bronnie James

in particular is a good example of this. Bronnie James is not going to be a high volume on the ball creator, right, Like, what he's going to be is on the defensive end. He's going to be a primary point of attack defender with length and speed to play passing lanes when he's off the ball, and then on the offensive end of the floor. He's gonna be kind of like what Jalen Suggs does for Orlando. And I'm talking about what the idealized version of Brownie James is

right now. He's not that. But he's gonna be a guy as a guard who sets screens on ball handlers and pops to the three point line and either shoots threes or drives closeouts. He's not going to be a guy that runs a ton of offense. He's going to operate within the flow with other good basketball players. He is a quintessential three and D player who is playing at the guard position as opposed to at the wing. This is not going to be a guy who's going

to look good offensively in this type of environment. That said, I do have some concerns. The main one is his jump shot. And I noticed this when we went to the when we saw him at the Draft combine. Shot well at the Draft combine, but he was shooting a very slow, long load up, kind of a low, kind of drawn out release out in front of him type of jumper, and I was immediately concerned about whether or not when the speed of the game picked up that

that would be able to translate. I'm not worried about it in the long run. I think it's gonna get cleaned up. I think Bronni's gonna learn sooner than later, Like I've got to be able to rise and fire quickly in these situations. There's got to be better energy transfer from the floor up through the top of my shot. I think he's gonna work all of that out. But I think on the offensive end at the NBA level, he's gonna struggle initially getting that quick release and making

quick decisions off the catch. That will take some time. And I thought you guys saw that in that first game, where like even when he would like get to his spots in the mid range, he'd kind of like just drag out his release a little bit, have a wide open catch and shoot three. But it's just kind of a long, drawn out release. That's a piece of what he does on the offensive end that's going to need to be polished up. Right. He ended up knocking down one jumper on a pullback dribble, and it was one

of his quickest and smoothest releases in the game. Because he took it a little bit quicker, and I think that's something that we'll see him struggle with, I think a bit early on. But again, in terms of operating within an NBA offense, he will run some second side action, obviously by virtue of the Lakers running five out and

him just getting the ball in those situations. But the way the floor is going to be configured, he's going to be a quick ball mover and he's going to be a guy that sets a lot of picks for bigger players in inverted ball screens and then popp into the three point line. You guys, know what, remember what Derek White did forever with Jason Tatum over the last couple of years. Right, he's set the pick, they wouldn't want to switch it, so Derek White would just pop

wide open at the three point line. Those are the kinds of opportunities that you're going to see Bronni get in the long run. So I'm not terribly worried about the offensive end for Bronnie in Summer League. On the defensive end, you saw a lot of good and a lot of bad. Right, he was beating people to spots. That first possession of the game, that beautiful job navigating the screen beaten the guy over the top to that left side of the screen ended up taking that contact

in the chest. He just got knocked over on that play. For the most part, did a really good job containing the basketball, keeping the basketball in front of him. He got beat on a straight line drive along the left wing in the second quarter of that game, but it was a botched coverage. This is one of those things where if you're watching it and you don't realize what the coverage is supposed to be, then you'd think it's

Bronnie's mistake. But Bronni was guarding the ball on the as the player was dribbling the ball at the left side of the floor up to the left wing. Bronni was guarding him squared up, but then he looked over at Colin Castleton and jumped way up on the high side on the left side of that ball handler. But Colin Castleton had not actually gotten back into his ice coverage yet, and so the Bronnie was doing his job,

which was to funnel him towards the sideline. But since Colin Castleton was too slow to get into position, he got beat off the dribble and it ended up in a layup that's supposed to be one of those situations where it's a two man coverage, not a one man coverage. So I didn't think that blowby was necessarily his fault. He didn't get back door cut in the second quarter as well, but then you saw some of his length

on display. He was able to recover and get a deflection in there to knock the ball free and recover in time. The guy ended up hitting like a one leg fadeaway jumper in his face anyway, but he got his length I thought was actually impressive for the most part in the game. One of the pull up jumpers he gave up in his first quarter shift damn near high five to the guy, even though he took some contact in the chest, just because he has super long arms.

And that's the thing, like when you talk about Bronnie size, he is undersize in terms of height, but he does have very long arms, which allows him to functionally play bigger on the wing than his height would lead you to believe. I thought his biggest weak point on the

defensive end of the floor was just his strength. There were multiple points in that game where he did the like that first play I told you guys about where he navigated the screen, got over the screen, beat him to the spot, but when he took the contact in the chest, he fell over too easily. Now that one

he might have been trying to draw a fout. But there were a couple other plays in that first shift where guys are getting downhill into his chest and he'd beat them to the spot, do his job, but when they would hit him in his sternam he would go way flying back and one of the times he was able to get a decent contest, but the guy still made the shot. There was another one where Brody got knocked like five feet out of position, ended up giving

a wide open pull up jump shot. So strength, I think is going to be a big one for him in the next couple of years, just to put on another about ten pounds or so of muscle. Because again, when it comes to cutting off players at the point of attack, there are two phases to it. You got to beat the player to the spot, but you also

have to absorb the contact. Like, if you beat the player to the spot, he still has a head of steam, he's still going to run into you, and yeah, you can try to take charges, but those have a certain level of risk that come with them in terms of whether or not you're going to get the call. And it's just as a dangerous play in general. And if he's going to be a guy that's an excellent point of attack defender, he will have to be able to

absorb contact in his chest. And so all of this kind of like falls into the same Bronny opinion that I've had since the beginning. Is he ready to play in the NBA yet? No, He's got to make some pretty substantial strides on the offensive end and some pretty substantial strides on the defensive end. But I think we're all being foolish if we don't pretend like there's not NBA tools there. When you watch Bronnie run the floor,

he's clearly a top tier athlete. When you watch him slide his feet laterally, he clearly has the potential to be an excellent point of attack defender. You watch him jump a passing lane, you can see that his length and his speed on those cuts is going to be of value. The dude has good touch. You don't go into the shooting drills that he's done and knock down shots at the rates that he's knocked down shots unless

you have the touch. He just has to convert his touch into a energy transfer form, a smooth release that he can get off quickly. At the NBA level, he just has to turn his natural ability his touch into a translatable NBA jump shot, which will take some time. And so all of this comes back to the exact same thing. He's got four years in a Laker Jersey contracted He's going to be able to take his lumps, take some time in the G League, learn how to

play at this level. He's got a long way to go, but I do think NBA tools are there, and you know, honestly, Brownie's future is to play alongside high IQ players in a small offensive role. That's what he's going to be as an NBA player in the long run. That is an achievable goal for him, I think with his skill set and as far as that role goes, the same

goes for Dalton. Connect Like in his first two Summer League games, a ton of on ball reps and he's capable of doing that at a higher level than he's

demonstrated so far. He hasn't shot well in ball screens or in dribble handoffs so far in these two games, but he's just not going to be asked to do that very often with the Lakers, at least for the next two years or so, the two years that Lebron James is under contract, and Austin Reeves is on the roster, and Anthony Davis is on the right and either D'Angelo Russell or some other guard who can take usage or wing that can take usage in the D'angela Russell trade

is on the roster. Dalton connect is going to be a Cogni five out system that moves the ball quickly and primarily operates with an advantage off the catch, not with a live dribble, And so I'm just not terribly concerned about that now. Four years from now, whether or not Dalton can be a seventeen million dollar player or a thirty five million dollar player is going to come down to what he can do on the ball. But it's just not something I'm concerned about in the short term.

And I'm just more concerned about Dalton on the defensive end than anything else. I did not think he had a good start to Summer League on the defensive end, just getting out of position, committing fouls. Just still a little bit struggling to connect some of the defensive awareness with his athletic gets. And again, like Summer League, gives you some good info and some useless info, and it's tough to sort through, but you know, if we do the best we can.

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All right, let's talk about the Golden State Warriors for a little bit. So the Warriors add Buddily over the weekend, added Buddy Yield and Kylie Anderson. So for Buddy Heeld, the idea is obviously that he can fill a Clay Thompson esque role as a movement shooter off the bench right, And that makes some sense because Buddy Heeld is the poor man's version of Klay Thompson. Indiana used him a little differently. He set a lot of on ball screens

for Tyrese Haliburton like ghost screens. That was one of the most common actions before the Pacers made all their trades. It was like Miles Turner pick and pop with Haliburton buddyheld ghost screens. Those are like the two primary actions that they ran the most. And so Buddy Hild got a lot of reps that registered as like a ball pick and roll roll man reps because technically he's setting the ball screen in rolling, but he's popping to the to the three point line. But that technically is like

an off screen movement shooter type of role. And then he did do a lot of work and movement shooting situations coming off of off ball screens as well with the Pacers now and obviously very small sample size with the Sixers, but he did some work in that department as well. Now, to be clear, Klay Thompson is better than Buddy Healed in every way. Clay got one point one points per shot attempt on off screen plays. Buddy Heeld got zero point eight nine on much lower volume.

Clay converted spot ups at one point zero eight points per play, Buddy was at one point zero one. Clay ran two hundred and eight ball screens and got over a point per possession. Buddy ran eighty nine of them and got zero point eight nine points per possession. Clay ran fifty eight ISOs and got sixty one points. That's one point zero five points per possession. Buddy ran eighteen and got ten. That's zero point five to six points

per possession. Clay's bigger, He's got a better ability to get to his spots to be an on ball creator. Clay is a substantially better defensive player. The one thing I'd say that this at this point that Buddy does better is he's just a little bit more active on the glass because he's faster, So we can get to some of those like long rebound type of situations, and he rebounded at a higher rate last year than Klay Thompson.

But Clay Thompson's a better player than Buddy Heal. That said, Buddy can reasonably fill that role at a heavily discounted price, and that's why this move makes a lot of sense. He is a very natural fit within the Warriors offense. Again, when we talk about the Warriors offense, it's five out with a combination of like screening passing folkrums and movement shooters right the screening passing fulkrams. These are all the guys over the years, like Draymond Green, like Kevon Looney,

like Andrew Bogan. In the early years, Andre Gudala did a lot of this as well. You know, these are guys that like weren't necessarily dead eye three point shooters, but guys that could just be really smart basketball players that knew how to make the right reads as they're operating in space, that knew how to keep flowing into the next action to try to get their movement shooters opportunities and then accentuating those guys. Were these movement shooters

and over the years that's been a bunch of different guys. Obviously, it's been Stephan, Klay, it's been KD, it's been and Pool, it's been you know, some other on ball guys like Leandrew Barbosa and Sean Livingston. Right, But at the end of the day, it's like offensive threats coming off of screens and guys who can set screens and then capitalize on attention devoted to the guys coming off of those screens.

Kyle Anderson fits magically into that type of role. We're gonna talk about him in just a couple of minutes, but Kyle Anderson is just another guy that's a very good decision maker, screen and roll guy who operates out of the middle of the floor. And then you've got Buddy Healed as another movement shooter. And Buddy Heal, by the way, also just brings three point volume. He took seven three point attempts per game last year combined in the two destinations and shot thirty nine percent on them.

So just kind of adds that influx of three point volume to try to replace some of what Klay Thompson brings to the table. Now, as I said, like these guys have their issues, But I like these additions because neither guys should be in their core five man lineup. When you look at these views, he moves through the lens of being like fringe, like outside of the starting lineup, guys who are like your seventh or eighth man. When you look at him through that context, they actually make

a ton of sense. Like Buddy Heeld has his issues. He's not an efficient on ball creator. He's at his best when he's being set up with an advantage. Klay Thompson was a better on ball creator than Buddy Heeld, obviously, but he's undersized. He's a mediocre athlete, but he's perfectly fine as a rotational bench guard, and he is a very natural fit within the offense, which should allow you to maximize what you get out of Buddy Heeld. Kyle

Anderson has his issues. Smart defenses dare Kyle Anderson to score the basketball, and he can struggle with that. He's a bad jump shooter. He's a mediocre mid range pull up jump shooter. He's okay, like just barely over forty percent and like hook the floater range, that like kind of short range area. He shoots just fifty two percent on layups, so like, yeah, he's got his issues, but

he's an excellent defender with a lot of versatility. He was actually the best defender guarding Luca in the Western Conference finals last year. He's a really smart playmaker. He's actually one of the best assists to turnover guys in the league, four point two assists to just one point two turnovers last year. Really good decision maker in the middle of the floor. He's a quality rotation piece. These are guys that as long as you don't need to

close games with them, they can really help you. And on nights when Buddy Heil has it going and maybe the Anthony Melton isn't playing as well, Buddy Heel is an option there, but you don't need to go that route. These are guys that you're not depending on for massive roles. You're depending on them in bench rolls, and within that context,

I really like it. So the Warriors this summer already have bolstered their rotation with a quality starter in the Anthony Melton, in my opinion, provided that he's healthy, in two good rotation pieces. And I talked about this extensively, but I love the Anthony Melton's game. If he's healthy,

he's your starting two guard. And so then you start to look at their best lineups and you go, Okay, Steph Curry top ten player in the league, de'an Anthony Melton bonafide really good, high level starter at the two guard, Andrew Wiggins bonafide, really high level starter at the three, and Draymond Green, who's one of the best defensive players in the league. That's a good core four to have in terms of your core lineups. Now, the question is

who's that fifth guy. Now, in the short term, it's probably Kaminga, right, but Steve Kerr has been on the record that he doesn't love the idea of Kamina and Wiggins playing together. They are two inconsistent shooters. They don't have a lot of feel for the game from those two spots. And that's really that's the most important thing when we talk about Kaminga is like the fit is a little clunky in Golden State, because this is a five out offense where read and react and quick decision making.

Quick quality decision making is vitally important, and that's one of Kaminga's biggest weaknesses right now. It's why I love the Kyle Anderson Fitz say what you want about him. He's an excellent decision maker who will operate well in five out as we look at as I talked about, through the Warrior's history, that type of player has been so very important. Right, So this is where the Lourie marketing rumors come in because Kaminga is that fifth guide.

To me, is the odd man out. He's the one guy that like is going to cause that lineup to fail reaching the level on both ends of the floor that it needs to reach. Now, to be clear, before we go any further on LORII, the Warriors might just not have enough to get LORI marketed. Like if a team like the San Antonio Spurs decides that they really want to put their best offer together, they probably win

that bidding war. So the question is should the Warriors consider including Jonathan Kaminga in a potential deal for Louri Marketing? And I think the answer is very clearly yes. And so I'm gonna make the case for that. Now. I have three reasons why. Three reasons why I think the Warriors should include Jonathan Kaminga in a deal for Lord if that's what it takes. Number One, Jonathan Kaminga has All Star upside, but he does not appear to have

superstar upside. I'm a big believer in Jonathan Kaminga. He's like a truly transcendent athlete. Talks about this a lot last year, but nobody can keep him in front when he makes quick lateral moves out of the high post, when he's attacking with a triple threat, or even out of the post like that was why he was so successful in the post last year. That's why he drew so many fouls because he was getting defenders out of position.

He's an intriguing defender with a lot of upside. I like him a little better on the ball than off the ball right now. I think he'll have multiple seasons as an NBA player where he averages over twenty points per game, and I think that he'll probably make an All Star team at some point. Jonathan Minga has clearly not shown to this point. Is that multifaceted dominance that you typically see from foundational superstars right around this point in their careers, you see flashes of it, and we

did not see that with Kamina. In my opinion, Jonathan Kminga's absolute ceiling like the best player he could be would be what Jalen Brown has become, and that is a huge compliment. Jalen Brown just won a Finals MVP, But Jalen Brown is somewhere around the fifteenth best player in the NBA. That would be an absolute monstrous success story. For Jonathan Kaminga. I think it's more likely than not that he doesn't get to that level, but that is

his upside. Jalen Brown is not the franchise cornerstone that the guys at the top of the league are. The guys like Shay Gilders, Alexander Giannis, Santana Kumbo, Joan el embiid Luka, Doncic, Nikola Jokic. Jonathan Kamina has no shot at cracking that tier, right And so with that being the case, like I don't view him as like a can't miss type of asset. Number two Lauri Markinin is

also not that type of guy. He's also not a cornerstone type of talent, but he's much further along in his development than Kaminga and he's a much better natural basketball fit with the Warriors. Lorii Market is not going to be a top ten guy. He's not going to enter into conversations with Luka Doncic and Joel Embiid and those guys at the top of the league, but he's

much further along. He averaged twenty five points in eight rebounds per game in his last two seasons with the Utah Jazz, forty nine percent from the field, forty percent from three to eighty nine percent from the line, sixty four percent true shooting percentage twenty five and eight on sixty four percent true shooting. You would be thrilled if

Jonathan Cominga became that. Lori markten is already that, And I know it's not a perfect player comp they're very different types of players, but in terms of value to a franchise, you aspire that Jonathan Kminga might be able to become as valuable around the league or as good as as Lori Markinin has been as an NBA player the last two seasons. That would be a quality outcome for Jonathan. And so you're just getting someone that fits more within the timeline. And then he's a beautiful fit

within the Warriors offense. He's an excellent spot up guy. He converted spot up possessions at one point one zero points per possession last year. Good movement shooter. He's got forty five percent coming off screens last year. That's one point one to one points per shot. He's a great cutter, he's a great pick and pop big and ball screens with Steph Curry that would be deadly. He's a high level read and react player in five out. He is just a much more natural basketball fit with the Warriors

than Jonathan Minga. And then the third reason why you'd have to include him. You have Steph Curry on your team and you're not planning on trading him. So stop focusing on what some of these young players can be and give Steph as much support as you can because you owe that to him, and Laurie allows you to do both. Laurie allows you to give real, genuine support to Steph Curry in the short term while also having an asset for the long term of the franchise. He's

twenty seven years old. He's got a lot of great basketball left in him. If to be clear, if I actually thought that Jonathan Kaminga could become a foundational franchise cornerstone type of prospect, then I wouldn't even consider having this conversation. But he's not like if he's not like a perennial MVP vote getter, then then it doesn't make sense. And again I understand from a different perspective, if you don't have Steph Curry on the roster, you don't trade.

Like for instance, if you're the Utah Jazz and you're looking for your franchise cornerstone and you have Kaminga and you want Lori Markin in, that doesn't make any sense because Louri Markein is not that guy either. You're better off betting on Kaminga's upside and maintaining whatever other assets that you have. The Warriors have Steph Curry, the Warriors

have Draymond Green. The Warriors have a certain obligation to try to make this work, and that, to me is is where you have to consider this type of deal. Here's my last note on it before we move on. Lourie gives you a clear five to start and end games with Steph, d Anthony Melton, Andrew Wiggins, Raymond Green, and Jonathan gaminga clunky, not enough shooting, not enough high IQ players on the wing, Steph the Anthony Melton, Andrew Wiggins,

Lorie Marketing, and Draymond Green. Plenty of shooting, plenty of guys that know how to play, read and react five out basketball and the perimeter. That five has the upside of a championship team. I wouldn't put him at the top of that tier, but like I'd put him up in the rest of the Western Conference at least I'd put him up there with you know, every team that's below that Denver, O KC Boston tier. They're just as good as all those teams if they get Lori Markin

in and then anything could happen. Who knows, Maybe Steph does get back to MVP level next year and you become a championship contender. Maybe you do have the ability to make a smaller move on the margins at the deadline to push yourself up another level. But Lori Markinen is the only guy that can put you into that conversation. If you keep Jonathan Kaminga and you go with Steph, the Anthony Melton, Anderwiggins Cominga and Draymond, you're a playing team. So,

I mean, here's the thing. It's possible that Lori Markin is just outside of Golden State's price range. But if you have to include Kaminga to make a deal like that happen. You include it, no question. I'm just personally as a basketball fan, I'd love to see all Right, before we get out of here, let's talk to Marta

Roze into Sacramento. So the full deal, The Kings get Demarta rozen for three years seventy four million, the Spurs get Harrison Barnes an unprotected twenty thirty one pick swap from the Kings, and the Bulls get Christwarte and two second round picks in cash from the Sacramento King. So I want to look at this from a couple of different perspectives. I want to start by looking at it just in terms of the fit. I love the backcourt

fit for DeRozan and deeron Fox. I'm actually much higher on it that most of the people I've seen talking about the trade since it happened. I think he's a natural fit in the King's offense. The Bulls ran a lot of similar five out concepts that Sacramento runs like. They run a lot of like Chicago action where Demarta Rozon'll be coming off of a pin down in the corner into a dribble handoff. They run a lot of

like other screens that flow into dribble handoffs. They run a lot of three man action where they'll like ram screen for Caruso to come up and set a ball screen and just try to confuse switching. They'll ram screen for Vucevich to come up and set screens like. They run a lot out of modern five out concepts, and he and DeRozan is just gonna naturally be a shoe

in fit in that King's approach. Now, Sabonas can't shoot the way that Nikola Vusovich can shoot, but he's still a really natural fit with Derozen as a screening partner. DeRozan was one of the best half court shot creators

in the league last year. One point zero five points per possession and pick and roll including passes on over twelve hundred reps one point one to five points per ISO including passes that was number one out of the eleven players in the league to run at least four hundred PERCENTERGY one point one to one points per posted up including passes that ranked third out of twenty two players to run at least two hundred and fifty, so he was unquestionably in terms of efficiency, one of the

best half court shot creators in the league last year. And here's the thing in terms of the off ball fit. He's still not a great three point shooter, but he did have the best three point shooting year of his career last year. It was the first time in his career he attempted at least two threes per game and made at least a third of them. He shot forty three percent on unguarded catch and shoot jumpers, one point one six points per shot. That was the highest mark

of his career to this point. If he's wide open, he'll knock it down. And so like, I actually think that the offensive end is a really natural fit, and I think that that's gonna look pretty almost immediately. And I think the Kings as a as an offensive team in the regular season got a lot better as a part of that deal. Now, the defensive end is where people are going to be concerned, right. Rozen is a guy that like leaves a lot to be desired on

that end of the floor. You preferably have to tuck him on a low usage player off ball, right, But I have long thought of deer and Fox as the type of guy who has the capability to make an all defense team, and that he like if he has the energy to really commit to that end of the floor, I think he's I think he can be a dominant defender.

So here's the thing. If DeRozan can absorb usage to lighten Deer and Fox's workload so that Yaron Fox can take more of a two way approach and devote a lot of resources to guarding the other team's best guard, I think this could work really well. The defensive end is only going to be an issue if Dearon Fox wants to try to conserve energy on that end of

the floor. But as long as long as that partnership works out to free energy up for Fox to commit to the defensive end, I think that could fit really well. Where I get concerned about this deal is the loss of Harrison Barnes. Harrison Barnes is not a star. He's like twelve points per game, although he's always been really efficient with the Kings. He's consistently been over sixty percent TRU shooting. But he's not a volume score, not a lockdown defensive player. But he is a rock solid forward

in the NBA. I'm actually really excited about his fit with Victor wmen Yam and the Spurs. They suddenly look like a very competent NBA roster going into next season with the inclusion of Harrison Barnes, with the inclusion of Chris Paul, Like that, that's going to be a really fun team to watch next year. And to put it simply, if Victor women yam that plays at a top five level, that could be a playoff team that we're looking at there.

But the Kings are suddenly very thin at forward, and like, I like Keegan Murray a lot, but I look at him more as a three. Is Trey Lyle's gonna take that role? Is there another trade in the work somewhere, Because I mean, this was a frontline that already left a lot to be desired on the defensive end of the floor, and you let go of Harrison Barnes. So like again, this move to me felt a little bit

like robbing Peter to pay Paul, so to speak. But I like the backcourt fit naturally, And so my kind of view on this at this point is I'm gonna hold off judgment on the Kings and the Durozean move until we see the rest of the offseason, because if they can make a move to anchor that forward spot. I'll feel a lot better about the fit. I just need to see what they do the rest of the summer. All right, guys, that is all we have for today.

Is always, I sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting the show. We got another show coming tomorrow where we're gonna talk some Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese Rookie of the Year stuff. We're gonna talk some Team USA, and then I'm gonna be taking a day off for traveling to Vegas for

Summer League. We're gonna have a reaction to the Team USA Canada scrimmage on Thursday morning, and then on Saturday morning, we'll have a breakdown of Brownie James's debut, in Donald Connect's debut, Alex Sar, all those guys that play on opening night in UH in Vegas. I'll have a reaction to that on Saturday morning, and then uh we'll go into Monday to break down the rest of Summer League. That gives you a little scheduling update for the rest

of this week. As always, I appreciate you guys, and I will see you tomorrow.

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