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Slash baseball all right, we'll good to hoops tonight here at the volume. Happy Thursday, everybody. Hope all of you guys are having a great week so far. I'm in Las Vegas, or last night I was able to be in the arena to watch USA versus Canada. We're gonna break it all down today. I want to talk about what it was like in the arena. I want to talk about what the basketball game was like some notes that I have about this particular team as they head

overseas to start their Olympic campaign. And then at the tail end of the show, I want to talk a little bit about Kawhi Leonard, him being sent home from the team to rest and recuperate and prepare for next season with the Clippers, and the decision to bring Derek White, Jalen Brown's teammate Jalen Brown, who got upset about it on Twitter yesterday to replace Kawhi Leonard on the team. I want to talk about some of my thoughts surrounding

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So the environment at the game last night was insane. It was just like a It was a relentless kind of parade of famous people every single time out. It's like, here's all of these all time great college basketball coaches. Here's Jim Beaheim, and here's coach k oh. Here's Obama he walked on to the floor. Oh, here's all these famous women's basketball players who played for Team USA. Oh, here's all these famous for men's players who played for

tam Osa. Here's Dwayne Wade, Here's Carmelo Anthony and then that led That was all surrounding this basketball game where we're watching not just Team USA that has Steph Curry, Lebron James, you know, Jason Tatum and Anthony Edwards and Anthony Davis and Joel Embiid and all this incredible star power, but against a feisty, energetic, really good defensive, especially on the perimeter, Canada team that has a player in Shai Yiosos Alexander that is regarded by most basketball people to

be better than anybody that plays for Team USA. I think that's up for debate, but he's certainly in that echelon with the guys at the top of the league, right and Jamal Murray, who's a famous playoff riser NBA champion, and they've got RJ. Barrett, and they've got Dylan Brooks who's tripping everybody and play and dirty basketball event. About that a little bit later, but it just was. It just was an incredible environment inside that arena. It really

felt like a special basketball event. I felt very fortunate to be there. I'm thankful for the Volume for sending me there. I was able to be there with some of some of my family. Two of my brothers and my mom were there. So it was just a really really cool experience. I was very thankful to be a part of it. And as a basketball fan, how could

you not enjoy that? And like, even just talking about it from a tactical perspective, it's just super interesting to talk about, like, you know, scheme approach for the different defensive front lines that they can use, how they should play offensively, the fit of Steph Curry and Lebron James, and how you kind of accentuate them with other players

on the perimeter. Just it just is super fascinating. I'm really excited that for the next month and a half we get to talk this level of basketball during the summer in the NBA. Like, if you're a basketball fan, it just doesn't get any better than this. It was super exciting and that on a What was super interesting is the game itself was insanely intense from the opening tip and like this was not. The USA team got off to a clunky start on the offensive end, but

they were defending. Both teams came out with just an insane level of defensive intensity like this it was a friendly, and the coaches were kind of manipulating it as a friendly in the sense that like the USA team did line shifts, meaning like they had the entire starting five come in and then they bring this entire different unit in with Tyrese Halliburn, Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum, bam Adebio,

Anthony Davis. There were some crossover as MB gott in foul trouble and at the in the fourth quarter they tried kind of like a mixed group that had Anthony Edwards with Lebron in Steph. But like for the most part, like the coaches tried to coach it like it was a friendly, but the players wanted to win that game. I actually tweeted this out during the game, but I was surprised that Canada punted when they did. It was early fourth quarter and somebody hit a three. I can't

remember who it was. I think it might have been kill Alexander Walker. But one of their guys hits at three and it cuts it to twelve with like eight minutes left, and you're like, this game is there to be had for Canada if they want it, And then Canada ends up hunting the game, which I was actually surprised by because, like you could tell if you were watching that game, all of the players wanted to win that game for both teams, even though it was an exhibition,

which to me that makes for great basketball. Like, the game was kind of ugly at stretches, Like the final score was pretty low. The first quarter in particular, I think Canada led twenty one to fourteen at the end of it. It was not pretty basketball in the sense that it was free flowing and lots of really pretty

skill work, but that kind of ugly basketball. Actually, like when it's ugly basketball, because people are playing bad basketball don't really have an interest in watching it, right, it's boring to watch. But when you watch an ugly game, that's ugly because of the intensity, it's ugly because it's a rock fight. It's ugly because everyone's playing super super hard. That to me is a beautiful kind of ugly basketball. That's what it was last night. I really enjoyed it.

Let's talk about the slow start for the USA. So they get down twelve to four at the first time out when Steve Kerr makes that first line change. A big part of it is just kind of like figuring each other out, especially on the offensive end of the floor. The US played a very intense brand of basketball on the defensive end of the floor with Embiid on the floor, with the starters, they had to drop right Like Embiid can't switch out onto the perimeter and guard quicker players

in space the way that Anthony Davis can. So when Bam or when Embiid is out there, you kind of have to chase over the top. And I want to I criticize. I didn't criticize, but I pointed out before this game, before this kind of USA adventure, that one of the weaknesses of this team is they don't have a ton of perimeter speed. Andrew Holiday is really the only guy on the roster that's like a professional screen navigator, a guy who, like you can count on to dependably

get over screens. But I was actually impressed by that entire group. There was Steph Curry did a really good job chasing over screens. Devin Booker did a really good job chasing over screens. Do you guys remember the Lebron chase down block that led on the kil Alexander Walker that led to the kick ahead that led to the Devin Booker three on the left wing. That was Lebron chasing over the top of a screen, staying attached and blocking the Kile Alexander Walker over the at the rim

in a drop coverage. So you know, even though I don't like him, beads fit with the starters, which we're going to talk more about in a minute. Defensively, I actually did think that the USA showed that they are capable of multiple defensive looks, which I think is good because then when they came in with the bench group, it was Bam eighty Tatum and they did a ton of switching and Tyres Halliburton held up He like tied up RJ. Barrett on a drive. He got a couple

of stops fronting the post. He didn't get burned on an inside seal by Kelly Olynnick once, but even Tyre's Halliburton held up reasonably well in switches, and so they're gonna have a switching look, but they're over the top chase with embad and drop look I thought was pretty

solid as well. Defensively, the starters were fine defensively in general for the entire game, I was super impressed by Team USA, and there was actually a postgame interview with Stephen Lebron where they both talked about how like, hey, we can work through these offensive kinks, but as long as we defend like that, we give ourselves a really good chance to win every night. And they're absolutely right.

If they defend like that, they're just gonna win. There's not a team out there that has the depth of defensive personnel that they have. That Tatum ad Bam frontline

was just frightening to watch. There is this sequence where like Ad kept ending up on Shay Gil just Alexander and these ball screens because they bring Kelly Olynnock into the action, and Ad literally stopped Shay on an island four consecutive times to start his shift, that which got them ount in transition, and then Tatum was bringing that rim pressure and transition, and that group regained control of the game, and then the starters came in and played

much better. So like, defensively, I'm thrilled with how Timosa looks. Think they look like a gold medal team easy, just based on the strength of that unit. Now, as far as the offensive end goes with the starters, it's a little clunky. And you got to remember too, like it's clunky in multiple levels. There's the Embiid fit, which I want to get to in a little bit. But another part of it is like you're you got all these stars out there, right, Like it's Steph, it's Devin Booker,

it's Lebron James, it's Joel Embiid. Drew Holliday is the one guy who's kind of like a ball mover, so to speak, in that group, right, And so Steph is used to having a certain level of aggression, Lebron is used to a certain level of aggression, Devin Booker is used to a certain level of aggression, and so is

Joel Embiid. But when you're playing in a five man group, it's a totally different type of flow, right, Like a Superstars job on an NBA team is he's typically surrounded by a subsidiary star and then three role players, right, and so his job is to create and then for everyone else to kind of benefit off of that and to play a smaller role. With a unit like this, you can't have four guys jockeying for control of every

single possession. There has to be a flow, there has to be a rhythm, there has to be ball movement from side to side, And early on I thought they looked a little hesitant. I thought the one kind of the one kind of personnel weakness in that group is they don't get a ton of dribble penetration. And I

think there are ways to address that. For instance, like Steph can manufacture dribble penetration by virtue of his shooting ability to kind of like draw the defense out and create openings on the role or to just beat his man off the dribble weaponizing his shooting. I think Lebron

can bring dribble penetration. So I think with the starters, Lebron and Steph almost have to kind of take the more aggressive role and have Devin Booker and Drew Holliday play off of that, and then the mb pieces when you're running five out and again, like five out is a concept that we've talked a ton about on the show in the last you know, six months. But the gist of the concept of five out is you're never permanently occupying a spot underneath the basket, right in the

dunker spot or anything kind of around the basket. You roll into that space, you cut into that space, you drive into that space. But primarily, your big guys operate as dribble handoff fulcrums from the perimeter. They are the guys that are flowing into actions, handing the ball off to a guy coming out of the corner, or you know, they're like you see a lot of Chicago action where

a guy will pin down to the corner. As the guy comes off of that pin down and then flows into the dribble handoff, he's got to flow from side to side. He's got to make passing reads out of it. The five man in five out is one of the most important roles because he is the fulcrum. He is the thing that makes everything work in terms of moving the ball from side to side. That is not Joel Embiid's strength. Joel Embiid is one of the five best

basketball players in the world. Joel Embiid is a force of nature that is impossible to deal with on the low block. But when he's playing for the Sixers, you can afford to toss the ball to him on the block and let him just go to work for extensive stretches. You can afford to run spread, pick and roll and have him catch on the short, roll around the elbow and catch and jab step and catch and jab step and pump fake and do all that stuff that he

does right. He can be a ball stopper with Philly because Philly needs him to determine the fate of the majority of their possessions. Team USA does not need that. Team USA needs somebody that can help that offense flow

from side to side. And so even though Ad put the larger portion of his fingerprints on that game just using his defensive capability, I think he's just a more natural fit with the starters because he's a guy who spent all last season playing five out, who is one of the best five out offensive folk rooms in the league.

Because he's got that side to side movement, because he rolls into the lane and has real role gravity, because he can offensive rebound it when things get caught in the blender and guys get crossmatched, and all of a sudden, he's got a shorter defender on him underneath the basket. AD is just a natural fit there, and so like it's not an insult to Joel Embiid. His skill set is just very much a primary initiator skill set, whereas AD offensively is more of a five out cog that

can be easily plugged in alongside other superstar players. And so I think in the long run, and we're going to talk about the other positional players too, because I'm not entirely sure I like the Devin Booker fit with the starters either, but I do like the idea of swapping AD for MBID. And then the other part of that is when you go to your bench unit and bam out a BIOS out there, right, and look, you know, maybe it ends up being a Devin Booker out there.

We'll see how the lineups end up getting constructed. But when you do get to your bench unit, that's a unit where you actually need EMBD to be more aggressive, right, And so within the context of that, it actually just makes a lot more sense for both guys you want ad to go out there and set screens and roll to the rim. Put him with all your high level offensive players and be an offensive cog. You want Embid to be aggressive as a low post and face of guy.

Put him with the bench group where there's less offensive skill and you actually need him to be aggressive. That's just a better way to utilize his skill set within this team. When the starters came in the second time, they played way better, a lot more pace and transition. They got a lot of really fun playmaking in the

open floor. There's just so much basketball skill in terms of basketball i Q. The ability to read the floor, the ability to make every conceivable pass, the knowledge of how to run your lanes and transition and fill open spaces, the ability to finish above the rim and transition. There's just so much of that talent that when you get them in the open floor, they can be really exciting

to watch. And one of the things that the starters did much better the rest of the game was just play defense, get out with pace, off the strength of their defense, and make plays in the open floor. It was it was really fun to watch them in those sequences. Steph Curry, I got to see him throw throw out

a little flurry in that third quarter. I've you know, I've had the fortune, the good fortune to see a lot of NBA players in person, but Steph is a I had never seen in person yet, and that was really fun to watch it Just it started with like this really cool sequence with Lebron where Steph drove. It kind of started clunky because Steph drove into Lebron in the corner, who caught, and then Steph kind of like replaced in the same corner, so it looked clunky for

a second. But embiid ended up having the ball on a kickback pass right around the right elbow, and then Dwight Powell basically signaled to Dylan Brooks to switch on to Steph so that he can guard Lebron in the corner and kind of help in case Embi looked to be aggressive, and Lebron like identified it and you could see him and Steph kind of quickly figure it out. Lebron just screened his own man. He screened Dylan Brooks because he knew that Canada was going to switch that action.

So then when Steph cut out, Dylan Brooks went to switch out onto Steph but ran into his original man, Lebron, who was setting a screen on him. Steph ends up breaking wide open on the right wing for the catch and shoot three. Right. Then Steph comes down has that really like fake spin moved dribble where he gets the and one and then he does the pose on the floor right and then he ends up getting the three off of the offensive rebound from Drew Holliday on the

left wing. It was like bang, bang bang, eight quick points. That was really really exciting to see in person. It kind of fell apart from there because USA did not do a good job of force feeding the hot hand. There was a possession where and again this is part of the thing with mb like he like straight up dribbled the ball of the floor into a post up and then turned the basketball over and you're like, dude, Steph Curry's got eight straight points. Like get the ball

to Steph Curry. Like, just get the ball to Steph Curry, set a screen, get out of the way, Like that's what you do in that situation. You read when you're playing five out, it's all flow going side to side. But when you see a guy as a hot hand, you got to find a way to keep getting it to him, right, But that was cool. We had the Lebron lobbed as Steph, which obviously is a connection we've been dying to see for a long time. It was just a really, really fun basketball game. It went almost

exactly as I expected. I tweeted before the game. I expected Canada to get taken early lead and then for USA to come back and win a hard fought game. It ended up being like a more dramatic version of both ends of that, Like Canada took a pretty substantial lead twelve four, right, and then the US actually kind of dominated the tail end of the game and they ended up going up by fifteen. Right. But it kind

of flowed more or less as I expected. Canada is the second leading favorite on DraftKings to win the Olympic gold medal. I thought it was fascinating because before the game, USA, according to draft Kings, was minus three ninety and Canada was plus nine hundred. After the game, USA went way down to minus five hundred and Canada bumped up to

plus eleven hundred. So even Vegas saw that as a pretty strong indicator that the US matches, at least, at the very least matches up really well with Canada and deserves to be a substantial favorite to win. And then you got to imagine you're gonna plug You're gonna plug Kevin Durant into this as well, which is just going to provide another layer of shooting and defense. This team

is going to be really, really fun to watch. We're gonna be covering them throughout the throughout the rest of this process.

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The second group took off because in the half court brought dribble penetration, like straight up beat his man off the dribble and had a reverse layup, was coming off of the dribble handoffs with a lot more pace, and he was engaging o'lennick as the drop coverage big which was creating openings for Bam at a bio on the roll. He just had that verve right. He also was like far and away the most confident player for Team USA,

which I thought was super interesting. Hit a bunch of really tough jump shots, and again like to have the confidence to rise and fire difficult pull up jump shots when you're surrounded by other really really good players and then to knock them down on top of that. Not to mention this is just like the next example of the fact that for whatever concern you might have about

Anthony Edwards, as a jump shooter. Every time there is a high leverage, intense, high stakes environment, the dude just has proven to be able to knock these shots down, which is really really exciting for his long term potential. I thought he looked like the best and most comfortable US player last night, and so there was part of

me that was wondering should Ant start. And the initial thought I had was he brings drible penetration, and so I like the idea of him kind of bringing some of that to that starting unit that doesn't have a ton of that. But then I thought, I like Ant being this aggressive. Right Like, Ant was the most confident and most aggressive player for Team USA, and that is a real, real value add especially in a situation where guys can be hesitant and not really feel like kind

of grabbing control of things. And so I actually kind of prefer Ant still coming off the bench because I want him to come in and be super aggressive. But if he starts games like that, it might take away from the flow of a unit that has Lebron and Steph on the floor as well, and so I like, I think you keep Drew with the star, but I think a way to kind of add a little bit more downhill verve to that starting unit is to swap out Booker and Tatum. So we already talked about how

I like ad with the starters. If you go Tatum lebron ad, you can go with a switching look. Drew Holiday can switch up, Steph can switch up, So that group can switch really really well. It alleviates some of the workload for your guards because they don't have to chase his herd over screens. And then on the offensive end of the four. When Tatum came into the game with that second unit, he was primarily doing it in transition to start, but then he did it some more

later in the game in the half court. But Tatum was bringing some dribble penetration. He had this really nice like spin move off the dribble where he got into the lane for a layup. He had some downhill moves like in the fast break to get all the way to the rim. He brings some downhill verve, and he's

a really good connective piece playmaker. And so I think going Steph, Drew Holliday, Tatum Lebrond gives you the best kind of like combination of basketball traits to make a five man lineup work for this team until Kevin Durant comes back. You could argue Kevin Durant deserves that three spot when he comes back, but you can figure that out in the long run. Who knows how long it's gonna take him to get better with this calf anyway. Right, then with the bench, you bring an Aunt and Joel Embiid.

What I like about that fit is one when Ant's being aggressive, Embiid is a guy who can knock down three point shots, which generates some more space. He also can pick and pop, which will allow Ant to get downhill or for Embiid to break wide open above the

break if his man catches him in a drop coverage. Right, and both Ant and Embiid can be ball stoppers and can be more aggressive with the ball because that unit actually needs them to do so, especially with bam Adebayo on the floor with a Tyrese Halliburton who's not really a super aggressive scorer with the basketball. Right, So that's

where I think that makes sense. And then Devin Booker can provide you that Devin Booker can provide you that like off ball, shooting, close out attacking, all of those things that will help kind of create space for that unit. So again they're not going to actually do line shifts. They'll combine units and you'll get to see different versions of this, like Embid will get more time with the starters.

There are versions of this that can work out with different lineup construction, but I think with the starters, Steph Drew Tatum, Lebron ad is your best bet in the short term, at least until Kevin Durank gets healthy. On the Canadian side, they didn't shoot well according to Synergy. They barely got over zero points six points per jumper on film. Jamal Murray missed a lot of clean looks,

especially in the first half. But at the same time, it's kind of a bad matchup for USA with them, for Canada with USA, because they just have all the length in the world to contest those pull up jump shots and to make them really tough. Drew Holiday blocked Jamal Murray on a pull up jump shot. Lebron had a really good contest on Jamal Murray's first pull up jump shot, another example of him chasing over the screen

and getting back into the play really really well. Shay could not get to his pull up jump shot over the top of Anthony Davis in any sort of meaningful way like it like they just have the length to bother their pull up shooting. It's a really tough matchup. And then Canada's frontline is small. Dwight Powell and Kelly Olynok, they're good NBA players, but it's just a lot to deal with with the massive guys that the USA team has on their front line. But they can really defend.

They're really good on the perimeter. They have a clear offensive hierarchy. I do wonder if they if they actually wanted to bring Zach Edy and Zach Edy decided and him and his agent decided not to play, or if it was Canada's actual decision, but that Edie would have given them a very different look on that front line. So I'm genuinely curious as to why he's not on the roster. Before we get out of here, I want to talk a little bit about Jayleen Brown thing. So

Kawhi Leonard's out has been an issue. This is kind of interesting because this has been something that's been a topic around the league for the WI for a while. I remember I was talking with Tony Jones from the Athletic like three years ago, and he was like telling me. He was like, yeah, I've been hearing behind the scenes that Kawi's nies are just shot, Like they're just shot, and like there it's a degenerative thing and he's just

never going to be the same. And I never really at first, I was like, well, I mean, like he two years ago, he just won finals MVP, Like let's see what happens that. You know, you know how it is with information too, like there's always like multiple reports providing multiple different perspectives, right, and like Tony appears to have been right, like the like he got hurt again in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty one, he got hurt,

he was out all year. In twenty twenty two, he got hurt again, in twenty twenty three, he got hurt again, twenty twenty four, shows up to Team USA camp and then he can't finish it. Like it's clear that that's the case. And honestly, like I just feel bad. I feel bad for Kawhi because this is a guy who was really really fun to watch, a guy who me personally I tried to replicate a lot of things in his game because I was a bigger forward and I like to kind of like copy some of his footwork

around the post area. This is a guy that I've been a fan of for a long time, and to see him not get to play basketball in meaningful moments because his body is quit on him is genuinely super sad. I don't know how the Clippers deal with it. I mean, if he breaks down again next year, like I talked about, I think it ends up being a situation where they start flipping players. You trade a Derek Jones junior, or you trade James Harden and you get draft compensation back

and you try to rebuild. But it's just sad because I genuinely don't know if we'll ever see Kawhi play meaningful basketball again. And that's just a huge bummer. But then the debate comes becomes who's gonna fill in for him? Right, it's gonna be Kyrie Irving? Is it going to be Jaylen Brown? And the guy that end up picking was Derek White. And I think this is super fascinating because Jalen Brown clearly took it as an insult right, talked about it on Twitter, called out Nike as part of

the process. And here's the thing, There's no question that Jaylen Brown is a better basketball player than Derek White. Right, But like we talked about earlier, basketball lineups in a five man context are about feeling responsibilities. Jalen Brown for the Celtics is the second best player on the team. They need him to do so much high level stuff, and he's very capable of doing so much high level stuff, and so because of that, he is a shoe in fit in his role in Boston. Right now, think about

Team USA. You're not gonna start second unit. Has you know Tyrese Halliburton. Maybe it's gonna end up being Devin Booker in the long run, maybe it ends up being Tatum or Kevin Durant, depending on if KD can come back with that bench group, then it's gonna be Bam, maybe Joel Embiid. Right with that group, you need a role player. You need someone who can knock down open threes, run inverted ball screens with better players, who can defend on the perimeter, who can do all these different things.

And Derek White is a professional role player. He's one of the very best role players in the league. He brings us specific need I talked about earlier on the roster. You have one guy who's a professional screen navigator and Drew Holliday. This gives you a second guy like that, Jlen Brown is more of a ball pressure guy in a switching scheme, right, So, like it's one of those things where if I'm Jaylen Brown, I understand his perspective

because it's an honor to be on Team USA. Like I'll just flat out say it, Like if I was playing in the NBA and I was a high level player, it'd be a dream of mine to play for Team USA. I totally understand he feels slighted and by virtue of his accomplishments as an NBA player, he's done enough to deserve consideration for that spot. But if you're Steve Kerr, if you're Eric Spolstra, if you're the Team USA management group, you are not fearful but respectful of the talent overseas.

You're respectful of Serbia, You're respectful of Canada, You're respectful of France. You know these teams have a real shot to beat you, especially in a single elimination environment. You're gonna do whatever you can to give your team the best chance to win. And Derek White as a plug and play role player is legitimately a better fit with Team USA than Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown is a better

basketball player. It's unfortunate that this is the way it works, but this is a lesson that the USA team learned a long time ago from when they brought on Michael Red and Tayshaun Prince in two thousand and eight. Right, you need role players. You can't just have a bunch of stars. Get a bunch of stars, then there's diminishing returns and you could end up getting yourself beat. By virtue of plugging in some role players, you give yourself

a more natural feel for a basketball team. Feel bad for Jalen Brown genuinely deserves that recognition, but totally understand why USA went in a different direction. All right, guys, that is all I have for today. As always, a sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting the show. Tonight, I'm hanging out with my family. I'm going to see Dead and Company at the Sphere. Super Super were excited for that.

That's gonna be a ton of fun. Tomorrow, Gonna be at Summer League, Gonna be there for the Brownny game. Come say hi? If you want to. If you're in the arena, I at about seven point thirty in the concourse there, I'm interviewing himehawk Has Junior. It's gonna be my first interview of an NBA player, Very very excited as part of our partnership with Chase looking forward to that. I'm going to talk to him about his time with

the USA Selects team. I'm gonna talk to him about his growth as a post player, his bizarre, weirdo obsession with trying to post up and score on bigger players than him, which by the way, he does very effectively. So I'm really excited to talk to iive he's a

player that you know, it's interesting. I've been I've been offered opportunities to interview some lower level NBA role players last year in particular, and there wasn't really a person that I thought that that I thought would be really interesting for this show until Hime was presented as an option this year, and I immediately immediately was like, Yeah, let's do it, Like get Hi May, Let's do this. This is gonna be so much fun and so really really

excited for that. So we'll have the I Mayhawks Interview I think it'll either come out that night or on Saturday morning. But I'm also gonna have a show on Saturday morning breaking down the debut of Dalton connect and Brownie James at Summer League. I think they're playing the Hawks, so that's Zachary Risache's a debut for them, as well

as the number one overall pick. So we're gonna get into all that stuff on Saturday and then obviously when I'm traveling on Sunday, but when I get back on Monday, we'll be reacting to the rest of the games on Saturday. Again, I appreciate you guys, thanks for supporting the show. I will see you in a couple of days.