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Hope all you guys had an incredible weekend. We are live on AMPS, so if you're watching on youtubeer listening on our podcast feeds, don't forget that AMP is the very first place that you guys can get these shows. We are continuing our Power rankings today with Number eleven and the Dallas Mavericks. A full season preview on them coming up. And then I've got two male bag questions as well. You guys are the Joe Portaget started and subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow me on Twitter at
Underscore Jason lt. Don't forget about our podcast feed wherever you get your podcast under Hoops Tonight, and I need mail bag questions, so continue to drop those in the YouTube comments so we can hit them at the end of the shows. All right, let's talk some basketball. So this was one of the ten worst teams in the league last year, and I have them all the way up at eleven. And there are three reasons for that number. One,
I think lucas amazing. I know Mavericks fans are all mad at me for putting him down at ten, but I try to be clear with the way my player rankings work. My player rankings are not vacuum player rankings. Obviously, if there are vacuum player rankings where we forget about what happened with the specific teams and their result last year and we purely look at who a basketball player is and what he's capable of, Luca's gonna be a
lot higher for me. But last year obviously was not a pretty year for the Mavericks, specifically down the stretch of the season. Wasn't Luca's best basketball of his career, and so obviously the guys that were ahead of him were guys at all made deep playoff runts. My player rankings are more of like a recognition, Like think of him as like almost like an award ceremony from that season, right, So, like that's the way my player rankings worth of work. It wasn't a shot at Luca. It's just the way
my system works. If I was ranking players in a vacuum, Luca would be either three or four, depending on how I feel about Yanis on any given day. And lately I've been pretty down on Yannis because I think he's declining a little bit in some pivotal areas. So obviously I think very highly of Luca. He's not perfect. There are some things that he does that drive me a little crazy. I wish he'd let up on the refs
a little bit. The way he's been going after the rest, especially in FIBA this summer, is not a good look in my opinion, and I think it's a distraction for him. So there are some things that I think he needs to improve his overall effort and focus on the defensive end. I think obviously he needs to improve his conditioning and
things like that, but like those are just little things. Obviously, as a basketball player, Luca is one of my favorites, and he represents an archetype of player that is my personal favorite archetype, the archetype that I think is the most impactful, which is the big, rim pressuring, playmaking forward. I've always been drawn to that type of player. It's why Lebron is my favorite type of player. It's a big reason why I believe in Lucas so much in
the big picture. But to be clear, there are three reasons why I have the Mavericks so high despite them missing the playoffs last year. And it's one. I think Luca is amazing and I think he's very much capable of flipping the script off of what happened last year.
Second reason, I love the Kyrie Irving fit. Not only has he had experience winning a championship alongside another rim pressuring, playmaking forward, but he's playing a really high level of basketball right now, played a really high level of basketball with the MAVs last year, and I think him and Luca compliment each other very well. He also brings some different change of pace stuff that I think will really
help the Mavericks in the long run. We'll talk about that when we get to the offensive end of the floor. The third reason is they've had massive roster eternal. They've swapped out a bunch of players that are not necessarily known for being guys who excel in the dirty work for high motor athletes, and those high motor athletes should help them specifically in the areas they struggled last year. This was one of the worst defenses in the league.
Last year. This was the worst rebounding team in the league. Last year. They needed an influx of athleticism and motor and they made that happen. So let's start with an off season recap and take a look at what specifically changed over in the roster. So they lost Davas Burton's, Reggie Bullock, Justin Holliday, JaVale McGee, Frank Milakeina, Theo Pinson, Christian Wood, and McKinley Wright. That's eight players off the roster that all played at a specific points during the
season last year. Right, they added a bunch of different guys. I want to talk about the perimeter guys in a minute. Let's focus on the dirty work guys, the athletes to start. So they brought in Derek Jones Junior, obviously a freak athlete, one of the freakiest athletes in the league. He'll help them with some contested rebound situations, and he's a good defensive playmaker. Actually gets a lot of steals and blocks
per thirty six minutes. He just doesn't play as much as some of his peers around the league, but he will help them with some specific things in the defensive and rebounding areas of the game. Rashaun Holmes didn't play much last year obviously in Sacramento, but he is an excellent rebounder that there was like a five year stretch in a row where he averaged over ten rebounds per thirty six minutes. And he's a very good short role player.
He's got a really accurate floater that he makes about two thirds of the time, and that specifically, I think is a really nice fit with Luca because so many teams blitz him in and pick and roll or hard hedge on him and pick and roll, which opens up that short role pass Having a guy that can make plays there's there is valuable. I think Rashawn's a really
nice fit there. Derek Lively, we did a full breakdown of him in our draft reaction, So if you want the full scouting report on Derek Lively, just go bick a bit further back in our feed. But to make a long story short, he's a young raw center prospect and he has the potential to become the fulcrum of a great defense. But obviously he's young. We'll see how much he ends up playing this year. Later in the first round, they took Olivier. I'm assuming that's how you
pronounced it. Olivier. Maxon's prosper a freaky athletic wing that has a great motor. Specifically, will excel with the things that the Mavericks needs so badly, which is just someone that's big, strong and can run and jump and plays hard all the time. I actually think he has a chance to play a lot more than Derek Lively in
this particular season. But we will see great Williams and assigning trade with the Boston Celtics a really nice pickup at the forward position to help in their best lineups. He's a little undersized, he's only about six seven with shoes on, but he does have long arms, and he competes on defense, and he's a very good rebounder for his size for being a guy who's only about sixty seven. For him to get you know, six and a half rebounds per thirty six minutes. That's pretty effective rebounding. And
he could shoot. He's a fifty eight percent effective field goal percentage catch and shoot jump shooter last year sixty eight percent when he was wide open, and I expect him to get a lot of wide open looks with the Mavericks. That tells me when he gets his feet set and he gets to his muscle memory, that thing's probably going in. He's gonna make almost half of them. So that's a a really interesting stat there, and he's
got some off the dribble juice. He can actually put the ball on the floor and make some plays attacking a mismatch here or there, late clock situations, rescue possessions, attacking closeouts. He was good for one point zero eight points per possession in spot up situations, which is really good, and he finished at the rim well for a ford. He also was ten for fourteen from the field in ISOs last year, which is really good. I'll be it in small sample size, like that's kind of crazy when
you think about it. The fourteen times they tossed him the ball and he went to work, he scored on ten of them. That's pretty impressive. He's that starting caliber forward that they desperately needed that they lost from in the Kyrie Irving trade in the form of Dorian Finney Smith. Obviously, I would prefer Do you prefer Dorian Finney Smith. He's a better defensive player, a better athlete, a better rebounder.
I'd like in the long run, you like, it'd be ideal if you could have someone like that, but you had to get Kyrie Irving, and Dorian Finney Smith was a vehicle with which you got Kyrie Irving, so you needed to replace that. Going after Grant Williams, I thought was a really smart way to make that happen. I think Grant it's a good player. He was stuck on a super talented roster, not getting as many minutes as he probably would have in another situation, and I actually
think he might end up starting. We'll talk about the starting lineup here in a minute. But if the five guys I just mentioned, four of them have reputations for being high motor guys, and Derek Lively is the only one who's not like that, and he actually does play hard. It's just more other limitations that can cause some problems. For him, and he's just super young and super raw. So really all five of them have the potential to help them in these areas in the long run. They
added a couple of guards as well. They brought in Seth Curry. He was one of the best backup guards in the league. He was one point zero five points per possession and pick and roll last year, which is good. One point one four points per possession and spot up possessions, that's awesome. Sixty percent effective field goal percentage on catch and shoot jump shots, that's awesome. Fifty five percent in
pull up situations, that's awesome. So one of the best shooters in the league, one of the best off ball guards in the league. Couldn't do much better than him off the bench. In my opinion, I think that's a really nice pickup. I also think you're gonna see some crazy lineups out there where you see Luka, Kyrie and Seth Curry out there, and they're gonna be damn near impossible to guard. When that happens. We'll talk a little
bit more about it in a little bit. Dante Exemp, fresh off of the FEEBA World Cup with Australia, is coming to play with the Mavericks. Now, he's been out of the league the last two years, but he had a really good season overseas last year. One point zero five points per pick and roll, one point two to nine points per ISO, which is like off the charts good, one point one six points per post up, and he
shot the shit out of the ball last year. Sixty five percent effective fielgal percentage on catch and shoot jump shots, fifty percent on pull up jump shots, sixty eight percent at the rim. Now, his off the dribble stuff did not work super well with FIBA, but he did shoot well in catch and shoot situation. So he's done a pretty long streak of being a competent shooter. So I think that could buy him some minutes in the rotation
as well. Given the nature of their predicament where they were at the end of the season, I think that's a pretty solid one summer rebuilt to turn over your role player contingent and make yourself a competent basketball team. So let's take a look at the depth chart at guard. You're gonna have Irving, Tim Hardaway, Junior Seth Curry, Dante Exhem, and Jaden Hardy. Again for the sake of this specific
depth chart. I'm always looking more at way the ways that players fit defensively, because what your position is is who you can guard in the NBA. Right, So Luke obviously functions as a point guard for this team, but I'm gonna call him a forward on this list, Grant Williams as well, Maxi, Kleieber Kleiba, I should say Josh Green, Olivia, Maxon's prosper and Derek Jones Jr. And then at the
center position, Dwight Powell, Rashaan Holmes, and Derek Lively. And we all know Maxic Cleba can play some backup center as well. So the question becomes who's gonna start, and the two obvious ones are Luca and Kyrie. Right, I think Dwight Powell has start at center. He's consistently started
over Kleiba in his career with the Mavericks. I like Rashawn Holmes more as a bench big anyway, because he's not the best defender in the world, and I actually think he makes a ton of sense to bring in as almost like an energy boost at the middle of the second quarter. Right, And then Dwight Powell's basically started every game that he's been available under Jason Kidd, not all of them, but most of him under Jason KIDDS,
So he's probably just the safest bet to start. Regardless of how you feel about which player should start, it's a safe bet that Jason Kid's gonna go with Dwight Powell at center. At the four, I think it's probably gonna be Grant Williams. I think he slots really well
at the four next to Dwight Powell. You just signed him to a long term deal at what basically amounts to starter money, so I just think I don't think you go to all the trouble to bring Grant Williams in to play somebody else at that position, So I think that'll end up being Grant Williams. They didn't play Maxi Kleebel alongside Dwight Powell a lot last year, so I don't think it'll be Maxie, although it's always always
on the table. As you know, Max he's a really dynamic defensive player and can shoot the ball, so theoretically you could play him at the four, but I think it'll end up being Grant Williams. So the question becomes who plays the three? Now? If I've got, you know, Kyrie and Luca, and I've got Dwight Powell and Grant Williams. You know, I've got three big and strong players. I've got a lot of strength and size and guys that can rebound with guys like Luca and with Grant Williams
in there. But what I don't have is like quickness, right, So what I need in this specific situation is I need a good perimeter defensive player that can also knock down shots. And so it really comes down to looking at the depth chart. The two guys that make the most sense to be considered here are going to be either Josh Green or Tim Hardaway Junior. I'd go with Josh Green for starters. I just think he's a better
player right now. I think he's a better defensive player, and he took a significant leap in his offensive development last year, Like that was one of the big things I was on from the beginning of the year, Like, holy shit, Josh Green got way better. And I'm always amazed when I see stuff like that, because I don't think people and all of you who have played basketball will know exactly what I'm talking about here. But improvements
with jump shooting and ball handling typically are incremental. It typically takes a very very long time to have a small improvement in those areas, and so to see a dude make a significant improvement tells you that he made a significant commitment in the offseason to address that. This was a crazy turnaround and it was motivated by a
bat playoff performance. If you guys remember the year before the year the MAVs went to the conference finals, both Frank Miila Kena and Josh Green got opportunities off the bench to come in and play, but neither of them can consistently knock down the corner three. That ended up being a problem, right. Josh Green clearly identified that in that playoff run and was like, I got to fix
this shit so I can play, and he did. He went from fifty three percent to sixty one percent and effective field goal percentage on catch and shoot jump shots that's an eight percent improvement year over year, from thirty seven percent to fifty three percent in pull up jump shots effective field goal percentage that's a sixteen percent improvement. He got better at attacking close outs, he got better
at making reads. I even think he got better defensively, so like Josh Green legitimately made a massive leap last summer. That means that that tells me that his head's in the right place, That tells me he's competitive in all the right ways. It tells me that he wants to do whatever it takes to help the team. And I think that just makes him a better a better player to put your vote of confidence in at the three,
if that makes sense. So like I almost look at the long term set as those three guys being Kyrie, Luca and and Josh Green as like the long term solutions at the one, two three. Will Grant Williams be your long term ford who knows, Will Dwight Power Dwight Pow will be your long term center who knows. But like, it feels right to me that Josh Green is the guy that you invest in that like for the next
three to four years. If you can get Kyrie to day, will end up being like you're starting three, I think, And I think he makes a lot of sense as like a strong athletic but slightly undersized three to be that modern three in the NBA. So I really like the idea of going with Josh Green. So that means you would have a starting lineup with Kyrie Irving, Luka, Doncicic, Josh Green, Grant Williams, and Dwight Powell. That's a lot of talent and then they'd have options. They have real
positional depth. You can go to Seth Curry at the three and just have a ton of shooting. You can go with Maxi Kleeb at the ford and have a little bit more size and athleticism in the front court. Right, Derek Jones Junior is an option. You can go to Rashan Holmes if you want a short role player that's got a little bit more pop in the mid range than Dwight howl does. Right, Like what if Dante xm
ends up being useful? What if one of these young kids, what if like Prosper pops as like a athletic four that comes in and can make plays. Like they just have a lot of depth and options that they didn't have in the past. I'd love to see some lineups with like Kliba at the five, with Grant Williams at the four, Seth Curry, Kyrie and Luca where like you just have five guys that can dribble, shoot and pass, and how ridiculously difficult. It would make them to guard right.
So there's just a lot that this particular Mavericks offer a roster has to offer that last year's did not, and so I think I think that justifies a significant increase in their potential over what we saw last year. So on the offensive end is we all know the Mavericks play basically the purest form of modern heliocentric basketball.
They're gonna let Luka Doncics bring the ball out the floor every single time, and when he takes a possession off, he'll give it to Kyrie, and then when they stagger each other, whicheveryone's on the floor will be the guy that determining most of these possessions. He's gonna slowly work his way up the floor, call for a ball screen, and if he gets a switch, he'll attack in ISO. If he gets that, whatever the coverage that he sees in pick and roll, he's gonna make the right decision.
If it's if it's a blitz, he's gonna easily get the ball to the short role. If it's a drop coverage, he's gonna get downhill and put the defender in jail and take some sort of push shot in the short range, right Like, if he gets a switch, he's gonna take the big guy out to the perimeter and try to work him off the dribble. He's gonna work some guard to guard screen so that he can try to get a small on him and take him to the post.
It's just helio centric dissect your defense basketball, and that's what he's the best at. And he was the very best pick and roll ball handler in the league. Last year. He scored one point one to five points per pick and roll. Out of the fifteen players in the NBA to run at least one thousand, he was number one. So there's nobody in the league better at picking teams apart and pick and roll the way that Luka Doncic does. As a team, the Mavericks were by far the most
efficient pick and roll offense overall. As a team, they averaged one point one zero points per possession. The Bucks were in second place at one point zero six. And it really just comes down to, like I just talked about Luca as this like offensive fulkrum and we've did the whole breakdown on what Luca is capable of in the player ranking. So I won't get into it today. But the important thing with Luca is it's not just what he's capable of, it's really smart spacing principles. They
always have guys in both corners. They always have a shooter that can knock down a long distance three on the right wing, and they always have a roleman that can make decisions. And then when they go five out with Maxic Kliba, it's a clear paint for them to operate those modern spacing principles. Always having guys in every spot that are capable of knocking down shots consistently at
a rate that's not tenable for the defense. That's what allows the Mavericks to be as dynamic as they are offensively. They were sixth in spot up efficiency last year, and I actually expect them to go up a level this year. I think more improvement from Josh creen bringing, bringing Seth Curry into the picture, Luca and Kyrie getting better at playing off of each other. I actually think they're going to be even better in their spacing and spot up
effective effectiveness this year. And it's just incredibly high end ball handling. When you have Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncicz, it's unfair because you finally get Luca to take a possession off and he's tossing the ball to Kyrie, freaking irving man. And I know that Kyrie gets a lot of negativity online because of his off the court stuff,
and look, I'm not here trying to defend that stuff. Like, I have a huge problem with Kyrie stepping away from a basketball team that he's committed to a goal with to like go to his sister's birthday party or whatever it was he did two years ago, or like some of the other things that we've encountered over the years.
I'm not a big fan of that. It's just as a I think as a teammate, you have an obligation to your to your teammates to participate in that ultimate goal with them, and like, if you're not committed to that goal for whatever reason, you need to confide in them about that so they can proceed without you, if
that makes sense, right. But that was a Brooklyn Nets issue, and so far he's been good with the MAVs, and in his time in a Dallas Maverick Jersey, he was freaking incredible twenty seven points, five rebounds, and six assists on sixty three percent true shooting in a MAVs jersey. He was also the MAVs. For as bad as they were down the stretch of the season, they had a plus six net rating with Kyrie Irving on the floor, meaning they outscored teams by six points per one hundred possession.
Say what you want about the MAVs after the deadline, Kyrie was not the problem. And there were a couple of specific things that he brought that I really really appreciated, and a lot of it was just change of pace. Like you know, Jalen Brunson was very methodical too, and so there was like a very methodical approach from both him and Luca. And Kyrie Irving has like a real pace, and I don't mean pace from the standpoint of like up and down the floor transition pace. Although Kyrie does
play with more pace than Luca. But Kyrie's not a super high paced player either. But he does play with more pace in the half court. What does that mean? Less methodical in the half court? Not a bad thing. Luca being methodical, I think is the strength of his That's how he strangles the pace of games and how he throws his opponents off of rhythm. But Kyrie does bring a change of pace. He attacks quickly. He won't take thirty seven dribbles to get the matchup that he wants.
Once he gets the ball, he attacks right away, and I think that brings a really nice change up, or it's more like the fastball to Luca's change up right, But I actually really like that combination because it gives
that that kind of change of pace. Like you're you have two or three possessions in a row where Luca's methodically doing something, and as an off ball defender, you have more time to kind of digest what's taking place, and then next thing you know, here comes Kyrie off a dribble handoff and he's already downhill and he's making a counter move and it just happens so much more quickly with Kyrie and that change of pass, that change
of pace I think helps them a lot. But the aggregate ball handling and shooting on this roster is what makes me so excited to see them play this year. Like I said, if you throw Steth, if you throw Seth Curry into that mix, Grant Williams obviously as a four that can shoot, Maxi Kleeb as a five that can shoot, they have a lot of potential to cause teams a lot of problems. Offensively, they were already good offensively last year. I actually think this is one of
my big predictions for the season. I think the Mavericks will have the best offense in the NBA next year by offensive rating. They were already the best half court offense in the league last year, averaging one hundred and five points per one hundred half court possessions. So that simply put, the MAVs got better this summer, and they're
gonna have the continuity of a full training camp. I think you're gonna get a a more in shape Luca than usual coming off of FEBA, although I heard he's had a little bit of an injury that he's dealing with. I think this is gonna be a big bounce back year for the MAVs. Now, defensively, last year they were terrible. We're not gonna dive too far into it because they have all different players, but they were twenty fifth and defensive rating twenty third, and half court defense twenty second,
defending the paint in dead last, and rebounding. Now do I think they're gonna be elite defensively this year. No, But if you guys remember what we talked about in the Sacramento Kings video. To me, there's when you're that bad, it's effort Like personnel is gonna have a limitation on your end, right, Like you're not going to be able to have a top ten defense with the Dallas Mavericks with the type of personnel that they have around the floor.
That's not elite defensively, right, But if you get your point of attack guys to commit, right, So, like if Josh Green has a good point of attack season, if you get Kyrie and Luka Doncic to commit, if you have a culture that you set from training camp on where the team has good habits and competitiveness on the defensive end of the floor, there's no reason why you can't be a around like the fifteenth, sixteenth best defense in the league. This is where I look more at
Denver as a comp. Now, you remember with the Kings, I said that was a bad comp because the Kings wanted to be the offense first team that didn't need to commit to defense to win. But for starters, they were atrocious defensively, and two their offense was a little bit more smoke and mirrors, as we saw the Warriors hold them to an offensive rating below one ten. Right, the difference is the Mavericks were truly unguardable. They had a top tier superstar in Nikole that was many levels
better than guys like darreon Fox. Right in Demandisabonis, so he was unguardable and able to overcome the playoff dip that so many players experience, and then the off ball players complimented him really well. Jamal Murray played like a superstar in the playoffs. Their offense was so transcendently great that they only needed to be averaged defensively. This dlex Mavericks team has that potential. Even if the Kings were the fifteenth best defense this year, I would give them
zero percent chance to win the title. Why because they do not have the top end offensive talent to be that difficult to hang with in a seven game series. Four times right, Luka dancicch and Kyrie Irving absolutely are that dangerous. That's how highly I you, Luka. I view him in the same tier in a vacuum as someone like Nikola Jokich as a playoff offensive fulcrum Kyrie Irving
is the perfect complimentary piece. There's no reason in the world that if the Mavericks don't get up to fifteen in defense, and that to me is just like kind of a benchmark to demonstrate that they're committed to the details, because they don't have to be great, but they have to be committed to the details. They have to be good enough defensively to allow their top end offensive talent
to clear the way. This was a good This team is going to be an interesting kind of case study and whether or not the Dallas excuse me, the Denver Nuggets from last year are kind of like a like a one off or like the exception that proves the rule, or an example of a new trend in the NBA which would demonstrate that high end offensive talent is actually more important than defensive talent in the new era. This team is a good case study for that, and I'm
curious to see what they can pull off. So I think they're gonna be a middling seed in the regular season, somewhere between five and eight. I just don't think they're gonna rip off regular season games. I don't think they're talented enough, but I do view them as like a bona fide puncher's chance team to beat anybody in the playoffs. Like I give them a chance to be Denver. I'd give them a chance to beat the Lakers, or give them a chance to beat the Suns like Luca and Kyrie.
If they find a good four or five guys from the rest of that roster that are committed to the defensive end and that can knock down shot, they're just gonna be a handful. They're gonna be a handful to beat in a playoff series four times out of seven. So all that is why I have them up at eleven despite missing the playoffs last year. Very very excited to see the Mavericks this year. All right, let's talk
about our mailbag questions. First one from Michael. If you were to realistically improve the Warriors' size, which players do you think they can sign. I saw a lot of Warriors fans talking over the over the last couple days about the Dwight Howard situation, and you Warriors fans that watched the show will know that I basically said, don't expect much from Dwight, and I actually thought it was smart for them to move past dhite I didn't think
he was someone that could particularly help them. Not to mention the fact that, like, when push comes to shove, this is going to be a Sarch Draymond Looney front court. Like those three guys are gonna get all the front court minutes when it comes down to it in big moments, Right, So I like that move as far as like signing a player to address size issues. I dealt with the same issue covering the Lake as someone who's a fan of the Lakers last offseason, where it's like, man, where's
the size. There's all these guards, where are the forwards? Like, how are they gonna contend with the athleticism of these other teams? How are they gonna fix this problem? And you find out pretty quickly that the veteran minimum free agent market just doesn't have those players. You're gonna find freak athletes that don't know how to play basketball, and you're gonna find like veteran dudes who know how to play basketball but can't contend physically anymore. That's pretty much
why they're not signed to rosters right now. So the reality is is the only way that the Warriors are gonna dramatically increase their size with playable guys is via trade or via one of their young guys popping. It's got to be Moody taking a leap. It's gotta be Kuminga taking a leap. It's got to be trading those guys for a veteran forward. That's the only way you're gonna see a significant improvement in the Warriors perimeter size, in particular interior size. I just don't think a veteran
minimum signing is gonna address that problem, all right. Last question from Xander. If Yannis asks for a trade, where would you like to see him go. So to be clear, I don't think this will happen, but I would just as a basketball fan, I would love to see Yannis with Luca. The main reason why is I think they would cause the most I think they would form the most devastating two man game in the history of basketball.
When you're talking about a roleman that is impossible to stop, barreling towards the basket, who has all the nimbleness and footwork to get around defenders, around the rim and finish everything. Giannis is one of the most underrated passers in the league because people are so focused on him running and jumping and dunking that they don't realize that he sees
the floor better than most forwards do. You're talking about a screener that would get Luca better separation than he has at any point in his career because of the role gravity of someone like Giannis. I think the two of them would be absolutely devastating together. And it's a good thing that this will never happen. And it's a good thing that it hasn't happened, because I don't think they'd lose a lot of games if the two of
them were together. But that's definitely would that definitely, as a basketball kind of fantasy situation, would be my dream uh yannist destination, the Dallas Mavericks. All right, guys, that is all I have for today. As always, I sincerely appreciate you for supporting the show. We will be back tomorrow with number ten. I'll see you guys. Then the volume