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gonna break that game down. Then in the second half of the show, the Golden State Warriors get a huge, important win for them on the road in Minnesota. Steph Curry's fantastic, interesting couple of sequences at the tail end of the game that we're gonna get into. We'll break that game down from the perspective of both teams. You guys are the drill before we get started. Subscribed to Hoops to Night YouTube channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at Underscore

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We're having another mail bag just like we do every week, coming out tomorrow on Friday. All right, let's talk some basketball. So this Lakers Heat game was an interesting game. The Heat really controlled the first half. The Heat guards Terry Rozier and Terry and Tyler Harrow were really picking apart Max Christy. Like the early in Max. I've been talking about this with the Lakers, like, I'm a huge believer in him being like kind of a rock solid NBA

role player for a long time. I think he's got enough off the dribble and shooting polish that he's going to be a pretty decent offensive player in a few years too. And he's just got good physical tools, good quickness, commitment to the defensive end. So I'm a believer in Max. But as I keep saying, he's just a young player, makes a lot of mistakes and there's an inconsistency with him,

which is super normal for young basketball players. And he was kind of the culprit of a lot of the Laker defensive breakdowns in the first quarter, like bam Adebayo's posting up ad you like that matchup. He doesn't need help down there, He's just fine. You're guarding Tyler Harrow, the guy who's been one of the most lights out shooters in the league this year, instead of just kind of staying home. He ends up kind of lingering down in the paint, leaves Tyler Harrow wide open. Bam just

throws a simple kickout pass. Tyler Harrow knocks down the three. A couple possessions later, him and Austin. Remember Austin's guarding Terry, He's guarding Tyler. There's a simple interchange between the two that just needs to be a switched easy basketball right. Austin thinks it's a switch, so he stops chasing Terry Rozier. Max is not paying attention, and Terry Rozier just drives right by. Max gets into the basket and makes a layup,

goes you get switched on, Terry Rozier. A couple possessions later, they run a ball screen on the left side of the floor. He goes under the ball screen. And when you go under the ball screen, the whole point of going under is to contain the ball. If you go over, you're taking away the pull up jump shot. If you go under, you're containing the drive. Right, That's what drop coverage is. If you go over the top, you have

your big there to help you on the drive. If you go under, you can actually cut off the drive yourself and you don't require any help. But he goes under and he takes a really bad angle, doesn't actually cut Terry Rozier off. He just goes right around him, drives right in. Lebron has to hard help easy kick out to he would Highsmith in the right corner. He knocks it out. He had a bad knocks it down.

He had a bad close out against Tyler Harrow right on the right wing where Tyler just went right around him. He got a driving layup. He just wasn't It was a lot of like hectic movement without a lot of like really baseline understanding of fundamental defense, and it caused some issues for the Laker defense in the first half. Miami also shot the ball extremely well. They took twenty two jump shots in the first half and got one point six to eight points per attempt. That's like crazy.

Tyler Harrow just continues all year to hit shots. And like I'm gonna say the same thing about Tyler Harrow that I've said about the Cleveland Cavaliers and a lot of these other teams around the league, Like when you see a guy who's shooting really, really well, when historically he shoots at a lesser level. If you see a team that's sho shooting really well when some of their guys historically don't shoot as well, yeah we can sit here and talk about like, oh, well they won't make

shots when it matters, but yeah they also might. So like my thing with that, when it comes to like if a guy is shooting super well or not, it's not really worth getting into. We just will find out. We'll find out if this is the new Tyler Harrow, and if this is the new Tyler Harrow, then he's a star in this league. And if it's just a one year hot shooting street a streak, then obviously it's

a different conversation that Miami needs to have. But whatever it is, this year, Tyler Harrow is just shooting the damn laces off the basketball, to his credit. But the game was actually pretty close in the first quarter. But in the second quarter, Spolster just went all in on zone defense and the Heat built their first margin of the game during netspan. Remember, Miami's the zone defense so much better than everyone else in the league's. They invest

so much more time in practicing it. It's a very different type of zone than other zones around the league because it's very active. It's very like guys are pressuring the ball, jumping, passing lanes. A lot of times, zone defenses breed passivity in people because you're only responsible for this area, so you think about, like, oh, this guy cut out of my area, or the ball's over there,

there's nothing I need to be doing. Eric Spolstra has built a very active zone with the Miami Heat, and that causes a lot more disruption and issue for opposing offenses. And the Lakers weren't getting terrible looks in the first half, but they weren't getting great looks either. It was a lot of they were basically just screening the top man every single time. So like if you imagine the two three zone, there's two guys at the top, there's three

guys on the baseline. You have your two ball handlers up top. But if you bring a Jackson Hayes up to screen the top man, and let's say it's Lebron on the left side and Austin's on the right side, if you screened the top man, Lebron can get into the lane and now it's say, basically a two on one with him in Austin, and if that guy steps over to stop the drive, he can pitch it out

to Austin. And if he doesn't stop step over to stop the drive, Lebron can just keep going into the lane and either make a kickout or make something at the ram. And it wasn't like that. Again, they weren't getting terrible looks, but they weren't getting great looks either. Some contested stuff in the paint, and they were missing some of their kickout threes in that situation. But the main thing that stood out to me is not much

in the way of variety. They were basically just spamming that high screen the top man instead of using more ball in player movement to beat the zone. They ran twenty possessions of zone in the first half Miami did and the Lakers only got zero point eighty five points per possession, and so he ended up going into the locker room up by twelve. They were the better shot makers in the first half, they played better defense than the first half. They get a margin as a result.

But in the second half Lebron just completely dominated that game and just eviscerated Miami's zone. There's several things you have to do to beat his own right. And we talked about it earlier, like you can do things like screen the top man, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't do that, but there's got to be variety. There's gotta be ball in player movement. There's several different things you got to get into. One, you need to get the ball into the middle of the floor, like around

the foul line. Why it draws the attention of all five guys and that's what opens up the opportunities for guys to get open around that. Cutting along the baseline, relocating around the above the brake line. You gotta get the ball into the middle of the floor. The next thing is off ball movement. You have to have guys that capitalize on the attention that is drawn. When the ball gets to the middle of the floor, everyone turns their eyes towards the middle. You've got to be relocating

to find openings. You got to be cutting along the baseline. Rui was great at this all night, just cutting out of the slot like on the wing, towards that just towards the rim. When the ball would get into the middle of the floor. Gotta get the ball in the middle floor gotta have guys moving around. You gotta hit some catch and shoot threes like you got. You have to knock down the threes over the top of the defense that that zone is designed to give up right.

And then lastly, you need to be able to score in the middle of the floor, meaning if you do get the ball to the middle of the floor, and the other five members of the zone kind of stay home, meaning the center just says I'm going to take away the rim and force you to make some sort of shot in the middle of the floor. The two wings in the corner kind of stay home, and the two

guys on the top are just tracking shooters. There's space there in the middle of the floor, And basically what miamis saying in that situation is score, go score there, and you need to have guys who are willing to

score there. Every single player on the Lakers, in different ways, stepped into those four roles, like the getting the ball into the middle of the middle of the floor, Lebron and Austin just making sure that the feeds were there, whether it was to Anthony Davis or it was too gay Vincent, or it was too Austin and Lebron from each other. They got the ball into the middle of the floor. The off ball movement, it was really everybody. Everybody was doing a good job. The off ball movement

we talked about earlier. Rui's cutting, guys are cutting along the baseline, Shooters are relocating, Gabe and Austin. Everyone's doing their job in that regard. Hitting the catch and shoot threes. Lebron hits a couple big ones right on the left wing or on the left corner, and then in the right corner. Those are the first two shots that kind of shrunk the deficit down. I think it was like seventy three to seventy at that point. Miami ended up building it back up when Lebron was on the bench

in the middle of the third quarter. But Lebron hit a couple of big catch and shoot threes, gave Vincent hit some threes, like Max Christy started hitting threes, Ruts Mercer like, everyone just starts hitting shots, which ended up loosening up the zone a little bit that way, and then the scoring in the middle of the floor is mostly Anthony Davis and Gabe Vincent like Ady just hitting quick post moves against Bam, like a little left shoulder hook or against kelll Ware and then and then Gabe

Vincent again like he was doing it with those little short range fadeaways. Again, like the zone is kind of designed to concede a kind of tough contested shot there in the middle of the floor, and Gabe was just hitting them. Gabe was turning over his right shoulder and saw its just shooting a nice soft shot that would all in on the rim or swish through. And those were just again, in all of those specific areas, guys were making plays. But the one guy that I wanted

to really emphasize here was Lebron in his passing. Like again, these openings that are in the zone, they're brief, right, like one of the things that happens in his zone. Like we talked about earlier, you're only responsible for your area, and so as the guy cuts away from you, you

kind of are passing them off. And so there are these like little transitions where you know you're a guy is out of the zone of the area of one man in the zone, but he's entering into the area of another man in the zone, but he might be tracking a different player at that point in time, And so there are these like little temporary openings where a guy can kind of like slip into a gap between two zone defenders while one of them is distracted or

something along those lines. And they're usually tight windows, and they're usually tough passes. Like the skip passes, you have to hit, like you got to put a certain amount of touch on them to get it over the top of all the arms, but you also have to get it to get there quick enough to where the defense can't rotate or the ball that can land into the shooting pockets so the guy can make a quick decision.

These tight space Like there was a pass that Lebron hit to Ruy cutting out of the right wing towards the basket, and it was like a bounce pass that was literally just threaded into that tiny gap between the center and the guy that was guarding Ruey up at the top of the key. It there's a lot of like tight space passing Lebron especially, but Austin as well. Austin had a great passing game. He had fourteen assists

in this game. But those two guys just did a great job making the connective passes to put together the player movement that was generating openings. Against the zone. In the second half, Miami ran twenty nine possessions of zone and the Lakers got one point two to one points per possession. Lots of Again, everyone contributed, Austin with this passing, Lebron with his passing and his shooting, Gabe with his mid range shot making, Ruey with his cutting. Rue had

twenty three points in this game. Anthony Davis hit a couple of big shots over the top. Just everybody made big plays, and at the tail end of the game, Lebron's shot making really broad at home that three that he hit at the top of the key. Lit'll pull up, jump shot and pick and roll with Anthony Davis around the left elbow, turn around, right shoulder, fade away. Like Lebron's shot making is gonna be key to this team

accomplishing anything this year. Because again, they're gonna probably make a trade here in the next month that is centered around more of like a defensive two way guard to anchor this team, or a backup center or something like that. I don't think the Lakers are gonna make an ultra aggressive move for a star. We'll see, We'll see what happens. But the I'm gonna talk about that with Yovan when

we finish up here today. But like there's no doubt that there's no doubt that like that that they're not gonna get there. It's more likely than not that they're not gonna get more offensive firepower at the deadline, which is gonna put a certain amount of responsibility on Lebron for that to make to make those types of shots, right, and for Austin to make those types of shots, and for Anthony Davis to make those types of shots. The last thing I want to hit on the Lakers front

was the defensive improvement. So I talked a lot about the one switching in the last video, right, and again, the Lakers switched one through five a lot to start the year, and then it looked like in the run where they kind of turned things around, that they stopped and they did more selective switching and keeping Anthony Davis

towards the ring more in drop coverage possessions. JJ Redick said in the pregame presser that they were going to go back to what they were using before and that the one to five switching one through five switching was

match up specific for the Spurs game. Now, what was interesting to me about that is they were doing it against Dallas as well, and I'm not really sure what the case would be for doing it against the Spurs with Victor Wembyama versus doing it against the Mavericks with Derek Lively and Daniel Gafford, guys that Anthony Davis could easily just sag off of and help in the paint. So like, again I'm I'm a little confused on that front.

But like JJ got away from it and went back towards that more picky, more selective switching type of scheme with more high drop coverage with Anthony Davis in this particular game. But what ends up happening, and this is one of the important details that I talk about a lot on the show. Like a lot of times I'll see people talk about like, oh, like there's this huge

adjustment this guy's guarding this guy. Oh there's this huge adjustment they did this coverage instead, And like, what's so funny to me about that is like I don't want to pretend like that stuff doesn't matter. It does. But I feel like there's this desire to come up with a real, tangible, like like obvious solution that I can write down on paper, and it's like, this is why everything got better. But the truth of the matter is basketball games are a shit show. There's so many different

things that go wrong in various situations. Like who you're guarding doesn't matter when twenty percent ish of the possessions are transition, and in transition there's cross matches. You're just guarding the nearest guy because in transition it's instead of guard your man, which is the half court principle, in transition, it's stop the ball, protect the basket, spray out to shooters.

So like everyone ends up in these cross matches and now all of a sudden, whatever matchup you're in doesn't matter. The scheme shift and that sort of situation too, Like you're gonna do more switching in situations like that where it's scattered, or sometimes the big just sets a really good screen. There's a play like this in the first half. Sometimes the big just sets a really good screen, and when he does, the guard has to switch. They call

it a peel off switch. You have no choice, Like you're originally in your drop, you're chasing over the top, but you see that the ball handler is strung The big out too, far. You need to now peel off, get back to the big and box him out, or

if they pitch it back, they're gonna post up. Right, there was a play like that Max ended up getting switched on to BAM and again like this is what it's technically a switch, right, the five is switching a ball screen, which is technically not the scheme, but it's an audible within the scheme, like, oh, it's too good of a screen, I have to switch now. They immediately went to post BAM on Max. Now we're back in the same problem that we always talk about with one

through five switching, which is mismatch attacking in the post. Right, But what did I talk about in that video about the Lakers earlier this earlier this week? I can't even remember when we did it in that video. If you guys remember, one of the things I talked about is like, you can't just leave guys on an island, Like if you don't have to in switches, just leave yourself compromised in one on one situations, it's a five man attack

on defense. And like there was an early BAM post up of Austin Lebron double teams and forces him to give up the basketball. Max lost another play where Max lost Tyler Harrow on the first half, just let one pass away. Max is not paying attention to Tyler Harrow and he knocks down at three. But if you do it right off the ball, you now have supported Austin. In the mismatch the play that I was just talking about, Max and ad switch, BAM's going to post Max. Ruey

stunts in from the elbow. You can actually see Anthony Davis stunting in two, but it's stunting. What I mean by that is like you run in and kind of swipe at the ball and then get back. You're not actually double teaming. You're just trying to force the offensive player to overthink or to rush, or to make a mistake. Baman's a pump face on the hook shot when Ruy comes in and swipes. Then he has a break rhythm hook shot off of the pump fake that he misses

over the top of Max. You supported Max. You didn't leave him on an island. You supported him. And this is why I keep talking about the difference between like what a scheme can do versus how well they're executed. JJ wants to switch because he has a certain view of this personnel. This group is capable of it. They're capable of switching. The problem is is they just don't. They have not been committed to the work necessary for it to work. Whether they run this kind of like

more selective switching scheme, which I think is better. I think you want to keep Anthony Davis at the rim as much as possible, or if you end up full on switching, or in the situations where switches occur out of necessity, it's just about doing all the right things. It's just about like if you swarm with stunting and helping, that allows the on ball guy to be more aggressive.

But if everyone stays home, the on ball guy has to play a very positional style of defense where you're just forcing him to make a shot over the top, and he's probably just going to go right through you because he's bigger and stronger, or shoot right over the top because he's bigger, So again it's a nice step in the right direction. That's an excellent example in that second half, ear in that entire game, really of how execution matters more than the actual scheme does, because every

scheme in principle works. Certain schemes fit different personnel groups better, but every scream scheme in principle works. It's a nice step in the right direction. But again with the Lakers, it's all about their day to day commitment, doing it night in and night out to get to where they want to go. All right on the Warriors' front, So the Warriors just completely jump the Minnesota Timberwolves out the gates. They go up by twenty four points in the first quarter.

The Warriors defense was excellent in that stretch, and you know when the Warriors defense is at their best, it's a very swarming type of attack. Everybody almost looks like they're in two places at once. The ball handler always feels crowded, like he's like he doesn't have any space to operate. But it also feels like no one catches on the perimeter clean because their closeouts are so sharp and their rotations are so sharp, so it just feels

crowded with nobody open. That's when the Warriors defense is at their best. It's very swarming. One of the things they did really well in the first quarter of that game too, is defending at the rim without found jumping arm straight up, absorbing contact, forcing guys to make tough over the top playups. They forced a bunch of misses. Julius Randall was missing shots, Anthony Edwards was missing shots.

Tray Jackson Davis did a bunch of damage on the offensive glass in the first half two, just beating Rudy Golbaar to loose balls, beating Julius Randall to loose balls, and then Steph Curry hitting tough shots against the Wolves drop coverage, mainly by just doing a good job of setting up guys for screens. He saw a steady diet of Anthony Edwards and Jada McDaniels. This one with Jaden, it's more about setting him up with aunt just as struggles tracking shooters and off ball screens or really in

any sort of screening action. It's something that I've been pointing out here for a while. He had some really bad reps against Steph Curry in this game, but Steph is just really good at setting up his defender for screens. Again, like a screen, there's two There's two elements to getting good contact on the screen. The screener has to get into the right position, hold his ground, be physical, set a good screen, but you also need your guard to

set up the defender to run into the screen. If he doesn't do the right work before, the defender is just gonna be able to run around the screen too easily. And like there's a three he hitd against drop coverage on the right block is the deep one he hit over go bear. He got Jaden pinned on his left side, stopped, waited for the screen, and then exploded forward to get

the separation to knock down the shot. He had Ant on the left wing, same sort of thing, like a swim move where he almost like threw Ant into the screen and then ran out over the top knocked down. The three hit a few threes in that first quarter when they jumped out to that early lead. They end up going up by twenty four points. Dennis Schroeder hits a couple of threes, but heal came in was like

picking up Nikkeil. Alexander Walker full court, swiped the ball away from him, hits a corner three on the other end. Gis atos I thought was good again. He's just big plays hard, can knock down an open shot, make basic driving kick reads, which is like just useful in the modern NBA when things are organized around him and he's

been playing really well as of late. The Warriors build a massive lead and then the Wolves just kind of slowly battled back the rest of the game, And that's what you expect against a good team at home, right They get it back to two in the mid fourth quarter, but then the Warriors made just enough plays to pull it out. Trace Jackson Davis when they got it down to two, gets a tap out rebound that leads to Moses Moody three that bumps it back up to five.

Andrew Wiggins hit a big transition three that bumped the lead up to six, and then Steph Curry hits two incredible shots to ice the game. A week side flair off of like a dribble handoff with Kevon Looney where Ant just wasn't paying a ten t Ant relaxed and Steph just cut off of a dribble handoff from Looney on the weak side. Wiggins was driving on the right side of the floor, and that's where Ant got distracted.

But it's like, dude, you're guarding Steph Curry, You're guarding the only guy that you cannot lose track of, and Aunt just for a split second stop paying attention Steph broke free with the Looney dribble handoff in the left corner. He knocks down the three and then the biggest shout of the game, nas Reed like like jumps out on Steph on the left wing and Steph rifles a bounce pass. I think it was Gary Payton in the dunker spot on the left side of the floor. Anthony Edwards is

there on the left corner area. Nas is on Steph. They both just turned their backs and stop paying attention to Steph. Steph just relocates to the left corner easy kickout pass. Nasri panic closes out when he realizes what's happening, but it's too late. Steph knocks down the three that should have ice to the game, but we ended up needing one more big play from the Warriors for them

to close this one out. In the free throw game, Gary Payton ends up missing a free throw that makes at a two point game with ten seconds left, and it's a loose ball and Kevon Looney just bullies his

way through. Rudy Gobert taps the rebound out kind of towards the corner, and then Andrew Wiggins, who is out above the break, crashed in and kind of crashed in running left, and Wiggins crashed in running right, and it was just a lucky bounce and Wiggins ran in there and got that loose ball and that ended up saving the game. One of the last thing I want to say about the Warriors before we get out of here. One of the reasons why I'm a believer in this

team investing at the deadline is their defense. Even without Draymond, this is an incredibly organized team with a good amount of foot speed that swarms and is committed. They're well coached and committed to the defensive end of the floor. I've never felt at any point this year that they like let go of the rope in a real way. There's just a very specific weakness in shot creation on this team that manifests in a way that can kind of trickle down. Right. When you have poor shot creation,

you can have more turnovers and missshots. More turnovers and misshots lead to more transition offense opportunities for the opponent.

More transition offensive opportunities for the opponent means higher offensive efficiency because, as we know, every single transition possession is worth roughly twenty percent more than a half court possession, right, So like they're getting extra efficiency there that forces you to continue to attack their set defense, which is going to continue to accentuate your lack of shot creation, which is going to continue to put you in compromise positions

on defense. As things get ugly, your team starts to lose belief than just that little extra bit of just athletically can go away, and you can end up in a situation where things spiral. All of these things are intricately connected. You have a better shot creator out there on the floor with Steph, you score more frequently, You

stay out of transition defense more frequently. Your team believes in what you're doing more, which brings that extra layer of intensity and verve, and it can be a snowball effect in the pose direction. This is a good defense. That's a good defense without Draymon. Draymond makes it an elite defense, right. That's a good defense that is capable of guarding that has struggled so much with offense at times this year that things have unraveled a little bit.

But bringing in a specific player into an area of need as desperate as what they have there on the offensive end of the floor can make a huge difference in uh in kind of turning this season around for this Warrior's team again, like this team has real strengths. I think there's a I understand with the recent struggle that there's this emphasis on this team almost like being

dead in the water. And I think this is a team with a crippling weakness, and if you address the crippling weakness, it will accentuate the strengths of the roster, which is the coaching staff, the depth of perimeter speed, the talent of Steph Curry. Those things are being ground down by this gaping hole in that secondary shot creator

position that they need to address. Last thing I wanted to say, Rudy made some interesting comments after the game about rebounding and talking about like the difference between boxing out and going to get the basketball. And it's kind of an interesting concept because, like in any sort of live ball rebound situation at the big guy spot, it almost always turns into the defensive big is going to

turn and box out. The offensive big is gonna try like hell to get the offensive rebound, right Like, he's not boxing out's unless he has interior position, But for the most part, he's just crash it. And then there's corner crashes. Right, you have the offensive players crashing out of the corners and defensive players crashing out of the corners. More often than not, it's the pursuit of the basketball

that leads to rebounds. Box outs are box outs, but so many of these jumpers are coming high off of the rim towards the middle of the floor, and it actually becomes more about ball pursuit than it becomes about boxing out. When I talk about corner crashes, I actually don't think it's a great idea for the guy in the corner to turn and try to box out the guy crashing out of the corner. He's at a huge advantage.

It's like open field tackling. It's an open space. He's going to hit a move and try to get around you and go get the basketball. You just need to turn and get the fucking back Like that's how you rebound. You read from the perimeter, it's about crashing, Like, it's not as much about boxing out as it is about crashing. Yeah, if you happen to go crash and the ball's high in the air and you happen to see the guy

behind you, by all means box out. But like Rudy's job is to box out, the other guy's job is to go get the basketball. Now to one of the things that Rudy talked about was like, oh, I just need to disengage and go get the basketball. I don't disagree from time to time, but when I was watching that, I thought Rudy was missing some box out. So like that's where it can get a little tricky. But again, it's a team effort of rebounding, crashing from the perimeter.

It's literally like it's like that game we used to play when we were kids in elementary school where you just throw the ball at the air and everyone tries to go catch it. It's just a sheer force of will combined with athleticism. Who's going to go get the basketball? All right, guys, It's all I have for today. Is always as sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting me and

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