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the unending train of just incredibly good basketball games. We're gonna be breaking down tonight. We're focusing on the final two games in the slate, so we're gonna be hitting that absolutely bonkers Clippers Nuggets game, and then the Golden State Warriors end up pulling out a game on the strength of their defense against the Houston Rockets, some key contributions down the roster with Jimmy Butler out, We're gonna break those two games down from the perspective of both teams.

Then after that we're gonna do a mail bag from the chat and one of the things that I like about that mail bag is it allows you guys to kind of direct into certain parts of these series that you guys are interested in, that you guys want to talk about more So, come into the later portion of the show, drop your questions in that chat any other questions you have about these series any other series around the league. Make sure you guys hang out for the mail back at the end. You guys are the Joe

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follow us there. In the last but not least, keep dropping mail bag questions and YouTube comments, and we can keep getting to him throughout the remainder of the postseason. All right, let's talk some basketball. So I was confident coming into this two game home set here for the Warriors that even without Jimmy Butler, they should be able to get the job done, mainly because of two things. The simple fact that Steve Kerr, as he openly said in a time out in Game one, these guys can't score on

us in the half court. If we can keep them trapped there three times tonight the Warriors held the Rockets to twenty two points in a single quarter. That is going to keep things close enough. And then at home, I just believe in the Warriors role players finding enough ways to ride the energy of the crowd and find

ways to contribute offensively. That's kind of been the story of the Steph Curry era is, especially when they're at home, even when guys are out of the lineup, is if STEP's out there and if Draymond's out there, they're going to get enough stops and they're going to get enough advantages to be able to win a game like this, And they were just incredible. We're gonna be going down

the line here talking about all their individual contributions. I do want to start with step though, because what was actually interesting about this game is Houston controlled it early. And one of the big reasons why was that idea that I talked about with the Warriors role players being able to ride some of that energy of the crowd and their defense to be able to provide offensive punch that wasn't there to start the game. No one could make a shot to save their lives and to kind

of compound the issues. Steph for the first basically till the middle of the second quarter was just like kind of easing his way into the game, not bringing a ton of aggression. I thought he was coming off of his screening actions, telegraphing that he was looking to pass. He had a couple of turnovers, he wasn't being aggressive enough, and then right around that middle of that second quarter,

Steph turned it up. And there's a certain amount of like, even with that level of defensive attention, there is still a certain amount of panic that you can induce by providing the necessary scoring pop and as we saw in Game one, like Steph even in this scheme, even with the face guarding, even with the double teaming, even with the grabbing off ball, even with the blitzing of the ball screens, even with all of the physicality, Steph can

cut these dudes to pieces. He's capable of doing it, and he demonstrated that in Resounding over the course of the last three and a half quarters of this game. It all just started with turning up his aggression as he started curling off of screens instead of curling off of screens, and immediately looking to get rid of the ball. He started trying to force the issue a little bit.

Jay Billis was talking during the game about how he was like putting on his cape, so to speak, trying to take on multiple defenders, curling those actions and taking scoop shots in traffic, taking floaters in traffic. He started to look to be aggressive for the first three point shot, pushing it a little bit further out, taking some more heavily contested shots.

guys ended up running with Steph. That comes from the scoring pop that Steph brings throughout the game thirty six points, seven rebounds, nine assists, like he has been absolutely fantastic in the two Warriors wins in this series. I can't say enough about it. I want to skip ahead to Gary Payton for a second, because, you know, one of the things that was kind of standing out over the course of the early portion of the game was nobody

really had anything going offensively. Brandon Pajemski had some good looks from three, he wasn't knocking him down. Jonathan Kaminga, you know, Steve Kerr places a bet on him to start this game and takes Buddy held out of the starting lineup, puts Quinton Post in there, tries to set Jonathan Kaminga up with some more cleared side ISOs, and just Jonathan Kimica couldn't get anything going. He was struggling with the physicality of the situation. The game seemed to

be moving a little too fast for him. He wasn't able to get anything moving, and so all of a sudden, it's like, what do we have here? And you know, there were a couple of guys who stepped up, specifically Buddy heel To we'll talk about in a minute. But one of the things that stood out to me in that second half was Gary Payton specifically saying I am going to the rim he was decisive. He wasn't coming off of those fake dribble handoffs or slipping out of

those screens trying to look to pass. He was looking to score the basketball. He went to the rim over and over and over again in that stretch, and like that was just that was such an important bit of rim pressure in a game like this where without Jimmy Butler it was difficult to come by rim pressure. I thought Gary Payton was fantastic in this game. Finished with sixteen points on seven of nine shooting, hit two massive

threes as well. Massive night for Gary Payton. The second Buddy heeled though it was a little bit of a weird shift in the early third quarter where he just when he checked in where he looked like he was just a little lacking that intensity. But aside from that brief stretch to start the third quarter, I thought Buddy was fantastic all night, just bringing that requisite level of aggression. Obviously, Steve Kerr was gonna have to bump his minutes up

under the circumstances. He ended up playing twenty nine minutes tonight. A lot of situations like that, a lot of Post, a lot of Gary, a lot of Buddy healed trying Jonathan Kaminga. They're doing that because they're trying to like inject some offensive firepower into the situation. Counting on the fact that Draymond and the rest of those guys, Moses Moody, Gary Payton, all those guys would be able to get another enough stops to be able to get to keep

this game within reach. And Buddy, every single one of those five threes that he hit was super super important in this game. He's plus fourteen twenty nine minutes at three steals as well. Big time game from Buddy. Heel couldn't post at a really difficult job tonight. You know, sometimes you get handed a job that you're gonna lose, but your job is to just try to to shrink that gap as much as possible, to try to lose by as little as possible. I remember I played in

this money tournament once up in Phoenix. There was a three on three outdoor money tournament in downtown Phoenix and we ended up winning it and winning the money thankfully. And there was a semi final game where we played and I had to guard this guy named Michael Craig, and some of you hoopers might recognize the name. He played at South Mountain Junior College in He played at South Mountain Junior College up in Phoenix, and then he ended up playing mid major D one somewhere out in

the South, if I remember correctly. But he was just this behemoth of a man, like six foot four, like two hundred and sixty pounds of just solid muscle, freaky athlete. And my job in that game and that three on three was you're gonna lose some battles to Michael Craig, like he's gonna bully you. He's gonna get some layups, You're gonna take a bunch of shots to the chest. You're gonna be in pain after that game. But all you have to do is just try to not lose

by that much. And that was literally the job that Quinton Post was handed tonight. On the defensive glass against Stephen Adams, he got thrown around sometimes, he gave up some offensive rebounds. He was just just his legs were destroyed. He couldn't make a three point shot to save his life. He was leaving everything short in his shot making situations. But he did the job. He won enough of the battles, nine defensive rebounds, three offensive rebounds plus seven in twenty

seven minutes. Quinton Post took the assignment to just get his ass kicked by the Houston front line tonight, and he stood in there and he just held his own and did his job battling for those possessions like some nice tap out rebounds two in situations where you know other guys were engaged in box outs. I thought Quinton Post was fantastic. And then just the defensive effort all night.

I mean, Draymond Green had about as bad offensive game as you'll ever see him play, making some misreads, some sloppy turnovers, struggling to finish around the rim, blaming it on the He wasn't getting fouled like Draymon had a nightmare offensive game, but he did a ton of damage defensively around the rim, especially to Alburns Shangun. How many times did you see Shangun miss a shot within like

three feet of the rim tonight? Many of those were because of the disruption that Draymond was providing on Shanggun's base. He was battling down there and just winning. Like again, this is the thing with basketball, doesn't matter how bad of a game you're having, if it's close late, just make a play, find a way to make a play,

do something that will help your team. And Draymond made several defensive plays down the stretch of this game, and then honestly, on the Houston front there's just too much inconsistency in the form of their shot creation. You know, shanggun kind of got figured out towards the end of the game by the Warriors front line. You Know, Jackson and I were talking last night in the mail bag about just the inconsistency with Jalen Green. Jackson and I

talked last night. We were like, if is it more likely for Jen to score less than fifteen points tonight or is it more likely they'll score more than twenty five points? And both Jackson and I said he'd score less than fifteen. He had nine points and eleven shots in this game. Fred van Vliet hit a couple shots early, but went right back to the same inefficient shot maker that he was in the first two games of the series.

They just don't have anything that they can rely on offensively, and ultimately that's what's going to get them beaten the series, is that if the Warriors give a concerted effort on the defensive end of the floor, they're not going to be able to score. And over and over and over again, they got the stops they needed. The Warriors were able to get the stops they needed to pull this game out.

All right, we're going to talk some Nuggets Clippers for a few minutes, and then, like I said, Warriors fans, Rockets fans, if you guys have any questions surrounding that series, bring them to the mailbag portion here in about ten to fifteen minutes. So, after two very close games in Denver, it looked like we were going to get back to back blowouts. In Los Angeles, the Nuggets completely took troll a game. In that third quarter, they outscored the Clippers

thirty five to seventeen. I thought Jokic was absolutely amazing orchestrating things in that stretch. He had sixteen points, eight rebounds, and four assists. Just in the third quarter, he got Michael Porter Junior going catching James Harden being lazy off of him in off ball situations. Just oh, you're sitting with your right foot by the lane line. I'm just gonna rifle this pass to Michael and he's just gonna

go up and shoot it. He caught Harden in a very sloppy switch where he tried to just like shove I can't even remember who it was. I think it was Derek Jones, but he tried to like shove one of the Clippers other perimmeterive defenders out of Mike wasn't ready.

sort of thing off ball screening action. Just ran up to the right, got his feet set quickly knocked it down. He had a break rhythm pump fake three out of the left corner where he the same sort of thing a baseline screening action that got Zuke caught up on it. Caught on the corner, clean pump faked guy ran by. He was able to just settle into the shot and knock it down. He did damage on the offensive glass.

The passing was insane. He had the speed to uh Peyton Watson underneath the basket where he got Ben Simmons in a kind of a one on two situation. I can't remember who it was in the corner. I think it was. I think it was Peyton Watson. No, no, peyt Watson was under the basket. And then I think it was Michael Porter Junior or somebody else might have been

Aaron Gordon, somebody in the right corner. And Peyton Watson's the real threat, right Like He's a good athlete who's got a easy, like vertical spacing window that he can just go up and dunk. And Jokic literally just looked Ben Simmons off, just looked towards the corner, and Ben Simmons lunged the wrong way. Jokics rifled it to Peyton Watson and he got a dunk. You could literally feel

Yokic suck the life out of that arena. The Clippers started to miss a lot of easy shots, like clean looks for guys like Nick Batoon that just weren't going down because you could just feel it in the arena. You could feel the momentum slipping away from the Clippers. The Nuggets also doubled Kawhi to great effect during that third quarter stretch, in large part because Chris Dunn kind of had his first really really rough offensive game in the series. He made some tough reads on short rolls

where he just kind of botched advantage situations. He was unable to knock down his open catch and shoot threes. And that's the thing. You got to make Chris Dunn beat you. And that doesn't mean beat you once, like he's gonna beat you once. He had a game in the series where he went three for three from three, Like, Chris Dunn can beat you, but can he beat you four times in two weeks? That's the question. And you

have to at least force him to do that. And they were able to actually kind of play him out of the rotation to where Tylu ended up closing with bog Don mcdonovitch. But the Clippers really came apart and it looked like the Nuggets were gonna get out there with a comfortable win. But then the Clippers went on a completely insane run of their own to start the fourth quarter, really started pushing the pace. You could see on the very first possession they just were running up

the floor to try to get something going. They got their pick and roll game going finally with James Harden. James Harden just started to bring more energy. A couple of Nuggets like Michael Porter Junior and and Nicole Jokicz both like really relaxed on defense during that run. And you know, it's some one of those things you're up twenty, you don't want to you don't want to just blow

through a ton of energy. But they almost lost control of the game during that stretch because it just was over and over and over again, James Harden getting into the teeth of the defense for layups and kickouts to guys for easy shots. Then on defense, the Clippers ran a two three zone where they used the opposite guard to deny the high post catch, which kind of baited the Nuggets into some tough above the break threes. They ran five possessions of zone in that fourth quarter and

got five stops. That was a big part, but really it was the ball pressure. They just up their overall level of intensity and ball pressure, they forced a bunch of turnovers. They turned Denver over five times in the fourth quarter, and it was like one of the craziest momentum swings you'll ever see, because it just it was like stop bucket, stop, bucket, stop bucket. Crowds going absolutely insane. They were even able to weather some shots like Jamal

Murray hits like a tough elbow jumper. Aaron Gordon ends up hitting a three above the break like and even then it was just but then it'd be like stop bucket, stop, bucket, stop bucket, and it just was out of control freight train towards the Clippers until the final sequence when Nikola

Jokic was able to seize back the momentum. So the Clippers go up by one towards the end of the game, and on the final sequence we get this weird We get this weird kind of set of plays where Nikola Jokic gets called for an offensive foul and a play where he gets gets called for hooking Nikol Jokic's arm. Now, my biggest issue with this has just been the total

inconsistency in the way that this has been called. Like I watched James Harden hook a guy like with that inside arm on a drive and get three free throws out of it early in the series. So like, what's the deal, refs, Is it the arm hook is an offensive foul? Or is it we give James Harden three free throws? Like, let's get some consistency in the way that we're calling that. So Jokic loses his mind, gets pissed off. They go to the other end after that

play though, Nuggets up by Nuggets down by one. Jokic, I thought this was a genius play on his part. Just goes right back to the same damn move, just quickly makes a right handed drive against Zoo. This time he doesn't hook. He just keeps that arm in and tries to blow up that shoulder, kind of snaps his head back, gets the call. He's going to get that call in that situation after what happened, You just get call for an offensive foul. You can plain like crazy.

There's a psychological element to this sort of thing, And I thought that was a genius play by Jokic to quick get himself to the free throw line. Smokes the first free throw, nearly smokes the second, but it goes in ties the game. They go down to the other end, the end of the floor, they get a stop. They come back the other end. Jokic hits this insane left shoulder turnaround jump shot right over Zoo that puts him up too.

James Harden ends up missing a box out. Aaron Gordon dunks it and that was as close of a buzzer beater as I've ever seen in terms of it being released in time like at the buzzer like this, like the top third of the ball is above the rim and the bottom two thirds of the ball is below the rim. I thought it was the right call to allow the bucket. But that was about as close as it could possibly be. And and man, like what, it's impossible to overstate how important that win is for Denver.

They don't play again until Tuesday. This is a team that is beat up. Michael Porter Junior is in rough shape. He's he's been dealing with some issue with his feet, he's been dealing with an issue with his shoulder.

rest of the series. They just have to win two out of three, much much stronger position for Denver to be in after that incredibly insane finished, another clutch win for Denver two shouldn't have been clutch, should have been more of a comfortable win. But I still trust Joks more than I trust and James Harden in a close game late. I didn't like some of the shots that

Kawhi got late in the game. He took a he had Jamal Murray on a right wing ISO late where I thought he could have worked more towards the elbow to try to get like a right shoulder or left shoulder fade away that's more of like a fifty percent shot for Kawhi. He ended up taking a pretty tough off the dribble three that I didn't particularly like, like the in crunch time. I do trust Jokic more obviously game two, notwithstanding when they ended up making their mistakes.

But it's just a reminder that these series are decided by the tiniest of margins. That game could have literally gone either way, and now now the Denver's in a much much more commanding position they lose that game, Clippers are going to win the series. Denver wins that game, now it feels much closer to that fifty to fifty kind of spot that we were in after Game one, and that's kind of where I feel at this point. I'm still feeling like this series is very much a

coin flip. But LA had a chance to close it there and it just couldn't close the deal. Some clip notes James Harden's overall level of intensity and focus was just off for the first three quarters. Didn't really bring aggressiveness or decisiveness and pick and roll until the fourth quarter, which I thought hurt the team. His off ball defense has been bad all series, but it was especially bad Tonight.

Made several mistakes during Denver's third quarter run. I talked about Kawhi needing to be able to operate a little bit closer to the rim towards the end of games. This is it almost feels to me watching that Kawhi is a little afraid at double teams at the end, and he knows that if he works into the mid to short range, he knows he's going to get attacked and he's going to have to use his passing ability, And it almost I've seen this dating back even to

the Warriors game on Sunday right before the play in tournament. Like, Kawhi is seems to be more comfortable at the end of games, settling for further jump shots to try to avoid double teams, and he just needs to embrace that. He needs to embrace set it up ty Lou needs to set up the spacing a certain way that makes Kawhi's passing reads easy so that he doesn't have to stress about it, but needs to operate closer to the basket at the end of games and the hard and

pick and roll is still their best action. It just depends on James Harden bring in the necessary pop and as we know, James Harden is known for having that type of game like, oh, massively important a game, opportunity to take complete and total control of the series, and James Harden just half asleep for three quarters of the game, which we've seen over the years, like the like it you know there, we go to that back to that Spur series and there's the concussion that people point to,

but there are just so many different examples throughout his career. We're like massive important game and just the energy and competitiveness isn't there the way that it needs to be. And that's one of the main reasons why, like, you know, this Clippers team, they're very very good. I ended up putting them fifth in my contender rankings before the postseason started,

but I had them below that top tier. And the main reason why is just there there's the aggregate playmaking talent piece that I've talked about a lot, but there's just so many wild cards. It's like, are you going to get a focused, intense, hardened are you gonna get kind of like a sleepy Harden? Right, Like Kawhi has even had an up and down nature to his game over the course of the tail end of the season.

It just I don't feel like I can count on the Clippers to be the best version of themselves night tonight, and I don't think they have enough margin for error to make up for that sort of thing, which just kept me just a little bit lower on the Clippers than many of my peers that cover the league. Are all right, let's bring Jackson up here and let's take some questions.

it's just tough to make that sort of decision when the development at this point at his age hasn't really come to fruition. And again, on this team, you can crack into the rotation earlier and more solidly as a reliable read and react player who also plays defense soundly both on the ball and off the ball. Then you can crack into this rotation as an on ball player.

If you're going to crack into this rotation as an on ball player, you got to be really, really efficient because you're not going to run a lot of on ball sequences alongside Steph Curry. Alongside Steph Curry, the majority of the work you do is going to be operating

in his ecosystem. And so Jimmy Butler has shown a wonderful ability to kind of shape shift between connective attacker, playmaker, rim pressure guy, but also be able to command a unit for these very short stretches, like here's a three minute stretch where we're going to give you the ball a bunch of times. But right now, Jonathan Kaminge is just not good enough at it to be able to justify that kind of role on a dead series team. And so here's the thing. He might be twenty six

before he's ready for that role. So if he's twenty six before he's ready for that role, there are some realities about him being effectively useless on this team relative to what he could be somewhere else. And so I've been saying this since the trade deadline, this is he just needs to be it's in the best interest for all parties involved to send him somewhere else this summer.

asset in in super physical basketball. But at the same time, like we can also admit even though Kaminga has potential, like I think he has potential to enter into that like somewhere between the twenty fifth to thirty fifth best player in the league by the time he's in his late twenties. I really do think he has that potential, like a guy who could like make an All Star team one day, maybe one you know what I mean. Here's what he's not Shake Kills with Alexander. So like

let's just let's take that and set it aside. You're not giving away the future here. So even to your point, Jackson, I talked about this at the time, like like I'm sorry, but like I like, I like a lot of these young players Pajemski and Kaminga and Moody are not competing in the Western conferen It's that that team's not good enough. You're you are going to rebuild when this is all said and done, except that reality and act accordingly.

wonderful clutch defender because of the physicality. You know, the playoffs are always physical, but they get exceptionally physical when you get into the late game situations and like they even you know they're they're they You'll even see that in the uh in that last layup that Shangun missed,

Like Draymond fouled him on that play. But like that's the thing, Like there's fouls all over the court, and like in a game where fouls are allowed to a certain point, Draymond is like one of the like and even just in a vacuum take away clutch defense, take away any of the details that we're specifically referencing, just Draymond is the most gifted legal fouler I've ever seen.

Like this dude in regular season games in February will come out and he's gonna find a way in the early part portion of the first quarter to kind of like probe the extent of what the refs will allow, and he kind of like finds that barrier and then he operates within that barrier, and like he's just he's just so smart and he's so the physical strength element to me is so like I got into this argument with the guys from the U and I should say,

a discussion with the guys from Basketball Illuminati. So like I'm in and Tom Haberstrow and we were discussing the defensive Player of the Year debate, and like I was trying to emphasize him. Like the big reason why I think Draymond's a better defender than Evan Mobley is like Evan Mobley can win a lot of battles in the air as like a shot blocker and is like a guy in rotation.

most important part of basketball. And Draymond just does a wonderful job of disrupting your base and keeping you off balance and bringing the appropriate physicality using gamesmanship to is to his effect to like to positive effect manipulating the refs, like like like Draymond knows that he can get away with enough for a certain like that the play where he ran up on the ref after he clearly didn't

get fouled, which was hilarious. He that's like it's part of his gamesman ship, if it's part of how he gets away with stuff, And like, I just think he's I just think he's the best defender I've watched in this era.

That's it's really challenging. I would just it's hard to imagine going at him.

over again. Like there are a lot like Nikola Jokic was playing at an insanely high level tonight, Chagos Alexander just like eviscerated the Grizzlies today, Like there's a lot of guys playing at a really high level right now. I just think Steph is operating at that tier, which is the key. Like you don't need Steph to be the best player in the world, You just need him to be able to go toe to toe with the

best players in the world. That is what it will allow Golden State's number one ranks defense, post All Star break, and the overall IQ advantage and the coaching advantage and like Jimmy Butler's playoff upside, and that's what allows all of that to operate. And like the it's been abundantly clear to me pretty much since the all since the Jimmy trade, that Steph has had that top tier superstar

ceiling still. And that's the key, Like, and there's a difference, Like there are guys in the league, like Lebron, for instance, is a guy that like on any one given night in the in the in this playoff run, can reach that level. He reached that level last night, but like he wasn't at that level in Game one for example, right, and you know, had a great defensive game too, but wasn't able to really assert himself offensively in Game two.

And like the thing is is like Steph is night in and night out right now providing the superstar offensive upside that this team needs to reach their ceiling, which is really all you can ask from him. But like, as far as like actually officially ranking these guys, like I just want everyone to know, like we that is what we do in the summertime, and we take it

very seriously. We will do extensive detailed rankings of where these guys rank in the league after what they've done this season, What I would you know rank them going into next season. Here's the thing, it's been what four playoff games or three playoff games for Steph for for a couple of these guys. It's hard to really like parse them out ranking wise until we have a larger sample.

a tough circumstance in a series. I have been pretty consistent about how I feel about Houston throughout the entire season. I viewed them as a non threat to upset the Warriors in this series. Like I like I I was, like I told you, Jackson in a mailbag one of these last few nights that I thought they'd go to in two and zero in Golden State, even without Jimmy. So like, to me, this entire series is more about

surviving the Rockets. In next round when they face either Minnesota or LA, it's gonna be a better indicator for us of where they're at in relation to their championship ceiling.

going to be a much better indicator. Like if Golden State smokes one of the teams coming out of that that series, that would be to me, like the holy shit, they've got a real chance to get this done type of series for sure.

a good defense, but they're not a great defense. They're just a good defense, and they specifically are a defense that depends on IQ and a forty year old anchoring everything for them on the back line. So like, there are obvious times where you can see them just completely overwhelmed by Minnesota's athleticism, like Jada McDaniels last night, just over and over again getting into the teeth of their defense. At the end of the game, they're complete inability to

hang with Anthony Edwards. So like, there's no doubt that Golden State, just athletically is more set up to grind Minnesota's offense down into the mudd. And that's what's crazy, is, like, guys, the Lakers, I just emphasized all these details about how their defense is not as good as Golden State. The Lakers are having more luck stopping the Wolves right now

then the Celtics are having stopping the Magic. So everything I just said, still, Theakers are doing a better job, Like still the Lakers are able to stop that Minnesota Timberwolves offense, but that's in reference to half court offense, by the way, per cleaning the glass. But the point I'm trying to make is I think Golden State could do some real damage to that Minnesota offense. Like I think I think they could. I think they could win that get that series with their defense in a similar

manner to what they do against Houston. But I think the Laker offense can present some issues to them with perimeter size. So it's man, it's really tough, Jackson. I I think that Golden State would have a better chance of beating Minnesota.

That's where I have it. But like I man, I think, I think the point you made about Houston's physicality plus a better offense would make them a slightly more dangerous team to Golden.

coach doesn't mean you know everything. Players are also very very smart, and every smart person that I know, every like smart, humble, like you know, kind of like well grounded person I know leans on other smart people to try to to try to answer problems. It's not I'm the coach, you shut up. I solve all the problems. Like Yo, Kitch is a basketball genius. I would recommend talking to him as much as possible. Let's call it there,

all right, That's all we have for tonight, guys. Is always we sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show. I'm gonna do a quick film breakdown that should be up in the morning that is going to cover just like some details from the two games, might hit, some shake kills Alexander stuff in there too, So keep an eye on the feed tomorrow morning for some film. And then we have four two one series tomorrow, So tomorrow is gonna be an old fashioned show like

last weekend. We're we have to hit four games at the same time, so be ready live on YouTube after the final buzzer of Pacers Bucks tomorrow night.