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we're getting from the Pacers. This is gonna be about whether or not the Thunder can raise their level, and they absolutely did in just about every facet of the game. I thought that was one of Shay's best games of his career in terms of his floor game, which we're gonna be diving a little bit further into that concept. Off the Top got a bunch of guys into rhythm the dead giveaway.

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let's talk some basketball. So you know, floor game is the latest and a long line of basketball buzzwords that you guys will hear all around the NBA media and on the show as well. And I wanted to dive into that concept a little bit because we talked about it a lot after Game one. I talked about how it kind of felt in the moment like Shay was just trying to like force his way into rhythm in

Game one. The NBA finals are a really uncomfortable setting for most basketball players, and there's so many examples in NBA history of like really really really good players struggling when they get to the final stage just because of how weird it is, how much media there is, how intense it is, and just all the pressure and expectation

that centers around that moment. Right Well, when I went back and watched the it really looked like Shay kind of bogged down the entire offense hunting his own shot, and I thought he just did a much much better job in this game. Now, when I say floor game, what that means to me is when you're the lead guard or the lead ball handler, or just consider yourself the offensive engine, the person who is singularly responsible for at least the majority of what your team does on offense.

In that case, a lot of times we see box scores and we go, oh, like, you know, you know Lebron went twelve for twenty tonight, you know, or Nikola jokicic thirteen for seventeen from the field tonight. That's seventeen shots. That's twenty shots. Go look at how many shots a team takes in a game. Both teams tonight took eighty

two field goal attempts. When you really start to zoom out from like from the singular possession and look at an entire basketball game, when you're the offensive engine, you have to create a lot of shots. Now, does that mean that Shay has to create all eighty two of those shots? No, but like he's going to be either directly or indirectly responsible for about sixty percent of that offense. And so then you start to zoom out and you go, wait, it's not just about whether or not I can get

my shot going. I have to build a rhythm in this offense that doesn't disclude me either. It's got to include me and my scoring as well, but it's also got to include everyone else on the floor feeling comfortable. That was something that I thought Shae didn't do a good job of in Game one. I thought he immediately came out tonight with a clear intentional effort to get the ball out to the easy kickout reads and cutreads

that were available to him. When we went back and we watched crunch time, I actually thought Shay started to figure this out. It just was so late in the game and too many guys were out of rhythm looking at crunch time.

just gets everyone involved with moving the basketball around. That's how you double your assist total compared to what they had in Game one. There were a couple of specific actions that Shay was hunting all night tonight and getting great stuff out of. I thought he made a very intentional effort to start working off of the left block and post ups. He liked his matchup against Andrel Nemhard in particular, a little bit of Ben against Ben Mathern

as well. Him and Ben Mathern were having a fun, little kind of like showdown in terms of just young athletic guards. Obviously, Shay got the better of him tonight in a real way, just took advantage of that aggressiveness and got him into some bowel trouble. But from that left block, he was always clearing the side and you could see him like waving people through and then backing down along that left block, and then as soon as

the double team came, he got rid of it. And if the double team didn't come, he'd go to one of those fadeaways over either shoulder. He also drew a foul and andrew Nemhart on a step through move, but he was able to consistently use that left block post up as a vehicle with which to survey the floor and take the easy kickouts that were available. Similarly, guard guard screens at the top of the key. We talked

a lot after Game one in our film session. If you guys remember the idea of him quickly attacking against the switch, like when the switch comes, just hitting the jets immediately and beating that dude off the dribble or against hedges, attacking quickly and splitting that action. He was getting a lot of dribble penetration straight through on those guard guard screens. He actually got a good amount of

that at the end of Game one too. But the whole point is is Shaye took what he learned from game one added to it in the form of the post up stuff. But he took those two pet actions, the high ball screens in the and the left block post ups, and he treated them as a vehicle with which to get his teammate's advantages rather than a vehicle with which for him to get his own shot attempts up.

The interesting thing too there is like even he was in a better rhythm than he was in Game one, and like I guarantee you that Shay in the middle of Game one could feel it. I'm sure he could feel that he wasn't playing a great game. You can't like in the game. He could probably feel that he was taking some iffy shots. Then it gets even more frustrating when you miss the next kind of iffy shot.

But it's a shot that he practices all the time, right, and so it can turn into this like you're trying to ram your head through a brick wall kind of thing. Right in this game, it felt like even the tougher buckets that he was going after kind of felt more in rhythm for him because he knew he was playing a great game. He knew the whole time I am in full control of the flow of this game for my team on offense, and all of those trickle down

effects started to show chat getting into rhythm. Andrew or Aaron Wiggins had his best off the Dribble game. It's contagious, right, Everyone starts to feel more comfortable, everyone starts to feel

like they're in a rhythm. And I just thought, I just thought it was one of the better games that I've seen Shade play in terms of just feeling out the flow of the game, identifying that his job is not to create you know, twenty five shots for himself and a handful of kickouts, but rather to be responsible for the offense, to be responsible for the entirety of the five man offense for the entire you know, forty minutes or whatever that you're out on the floor. That's

the job. That's what floor game means. Floor game means how do you run the offense? Not how many points you had and how many assists you had. And I thought Shaye just had an absolutely amazing game running the offense. My second big takeaway from tonight was just how frightening Oklahoma City's athletics ceiling is. I talked about at the open of this show about how Indiana didn't lower their

level tonight. I didn't feel like it like Indy came out flat the way that Denver did in Game two of the second round series, or that we the way that we see so many veteran teams like Indy came out and had a lot of those patented Indie runs where they continue to get you know, seven eight points in a short span that shrinks a lead down to something more manageable, and like that's what they do, right, They wait for you to slow down We had a classic example of that in the second half of this

game where or in the late first half of this game where okay see, he goes on a big run and then all of a sudden, okay See misses a few jump shots in a row, and you know, Nie Smiths hitting a corner three, Seakam's getting an and one, and all of a sudden, the leads back down to thirteen. That's what they do. They just they never stopped coming at you. But there's a reason why those deficits just

looked bigger tonight. There's a reason why they were able to push it north of twenty multiple times, and it's because even though Indy didn't lower their level, Oklahoma City substantially raised theirs. One of the things that I talked about all this all the time on this show is the idea of like shooting variants being pretty far down

the list. For me, it's a thing. There's basically statistical proof that shooting variance does exist to a certain extent, but I tend to think that basketball dynamics play a larger role in that shooting variance than the shooting variance is then we're led to believe by the way the game is discussed, right, everyone wants to pretend that there's

just this algorithm that spits out a shot result. That's not what happens, and what happens before the shot is going to have a huge impact on whether or not the shot goes in or not. You can't just sit there and put a hand up and hope that a guy misses shots. If you bring a requisite level of intensity on your closeouts to where you get up in underneath the shooter, in the shooting pocket, disrupting the gather all of a sudden, that contest is going to do a lot more to force that guy to miss than

I'm standing there or the hand up. Obi Toppin Early in the game hit another contested three over I think it was over at Hartenstein if I remember correctly, in

the left corner. Might have been over cheted, but it was a shot where like the hand was up, but there wasn't that other layer, that other layer of trying to make the guy uncomfortable swiping at the basketball, being more intense with that closeout that was absolutely there over the course of the rest of tonight's game, like block shots on three pointers, multiple of those, just a level of hillaciousness to the way they were closing out the rebounds. They started to do a bunch of damage on the

offensive glass. Again in the second half. Their on ball defense caused Indiana to lose their composure at multiple points in the game, a long stretch to start the second quarter and then again in the third quarter. That comes from the fact that when Oklahoma City really has their back against the wall, they lose that game, they're probably

losing the series. Right Like, you're down two zero going back to Indy, Like Indy's getting at least one of those, and now you're down three to one, and it's just really difficult to come back from down three to one against a team that never stops playing their best version of basketball, right like, this was a must win game. And in this must win game, a bunch of these young athletes that are you know, other than Caruso twenty six or younger just turned up that athleticism to a

level that Indiana really couldn't match. Or there's gonna be a lot of talk about Tyrese Haliburton, and you know how he didn't really do too much to score the ball until late in the game. I think a big part of it has to do with the fact that Tyree's doesn't get a ton of separation from these guys when they're really really locked in. That goes for everyone. These these these dudes are really really difficult to move or get around when they when they tighten the screws

the way they did tonight. And I thought that was the big thing that stood out to me in the sense that if this series goes seven, like let's say, for instance, that Indiana goes home and gets two, like they just they just go home and ride that Indie home crowd and they get to and then all of a sudd in Oklahoma City wins Game five and wins game six to two, or just somehow gets this to

a seven. If this series goes seven, keep in mind that if they're in Oklahoma City and they could ratchet up their athleticism like that, I don't know that Indy can win if they end up in that type of game. And so it kind of feels to me like Indy's pathway is to end this thing in six, to go home win three and four. Obviously you're gonna lose in Game five against the same type of leverage athleticism that we saw tonight and then their chance to close it

out in six. I left Tonight's game feeling like I don't think Indiana could win a closeout game in Oklahoma City. There's just a level they can get too athletically that Indy can't touch. We talked about a bunch of adjustments for Oklahoma City. I wanted to quickly kind of go through those. We talked about shake Joss Alexander making a more intentional effort to invest in rhythm with his teammates throughout the game. I thought he clearly made that change.

We talked about Ja Dupp staying away from these early clock contested mid range jump shots. Really did a much better job of that Tonight, didn't take one until the late second quarter and only took two in the entire game. Was just much more of an attacker and facilitator in this game. Got to the foul line a bunch as well. We talked about loosening up the defense. I talked about how they gave up a bunch of open threes just kind of overswarming, and interestingly enough, it kind of did

feel like that was the game plan early on. That was why we saw so many of those like Nemhard and Halliburn ISOs kind of right around the middle of the floor in the first quarter. Oklahoma City wasn't overreacting to dribble penetration at that point in the game, but it felt like in that third quarter run that they really leaned back into their swarming and honestly, I thought it was the right call in the moment, like they caused Indy to lose their composure again, they started to

get out in transition. It was like a momentous kind of thing, And honestly, it might have just literally been the basketball instincts of this team and the way they kind of smell blood in the water and they start going for those turnovers. Oklahoma City really started gambling a lot on the on their over like in their help and recover decisions in that second half, and I thought most of it paid off. And then again in general, the intensity to close out, so you got to make

people miss. You can't sit there, cross your fingers and hope that people miss. That's not how basketball works. You gotta make people miss. And tonight I thought Oklahoma City brought the requisite level of intensity to force Indiana into missing some of those threes. Some other Oklahoma City shoutouts before we head over to the Indiana front. Aaron Wiggins is scoring. He had seventeen tonight. I believe he had seventeen tonight. He had five threes in this game. He

actually got up to eighteen points. He had a free throw late in the game, but he had eighteen points in ninety five threes. His first three buckets were pretty tough. Like Aaron Wiggins is an underrated put the ball on the floor type of like bench scorer. I think he has a reputation around the league as being kind of a three and D guy. He's got a lot more

off the dribble pop than you dink like. I think he's closer to like a Nause Marshall type of role player wing than like a you know, a lou Doort like type of three and D type of wing. And he did some really nice work off the dribble to start this game. Hit a tough bank shot in some traffic over siak him if I remember correctly, and then his first two threes are like pretty tough off the

dribble threes. Those are a big part of how they built as much margin early in the game when Indiana was playing as well as they were playing Alex Cruzo. His combination of just knocking down, catching shoot threes, and finding openings as a cutter, it continues to make him a very reliable offensive player. He had twenty more points tonight. That's the tenth time in this postseason he's gotten into

double figures as a scorer. In his second time in this postseason where he's gotten over twenty points or gotten up to twenty points in a single game. And then Isaya Hartenstein. I just thought he was awesome tonight. You only had three points, but did a bunch of damage on the glass and as a screener and as a connective passer. To me, he just greases the wheels for this team. I would love to look up. I'll dig into this. Maybe I can try to find this information tomorrow.

I'm not even sure if you can do it for an individual, but I would love to find out what Oklahoma cities assist percentages, meaning the percentage of their made baskets that come off of assists. I would be really interested to see what the assist percentage is when he's on the floor versus off, because it feels like he's the guy that gets them running action side to side, just with his willingness to shift adrift like dh O's and get when he creates an outlet for himself, he

just immediately dribbles into the next triple handoff. He just kind of gets the things greased on offense and then obviously such a great connective passer in the middle of the floor as well. We did see some of the two big look finally from the Thunder tonight. I'm gonna be honest with you, guys, I thought some of the discussions surrounding the two big lineup or one big lineup

or no big lineup was a bit overblown. There are pros and cons to all three looks, and I think the Thunder are capable of beating the Pacers with all three looks. And I feel like a lot of the times we just play the results with this stuff, like Oklahoma City was up fifteen in the middle of the fourth quarter despite going small, despite not playing their two

big look. Like if Oklahoma City just holds on to their lead, we're probably talking about how dag Nault's a genius because he identified that the Hartenstein minutes were really bad in the regular season, and he gave his team a better chance to go up one out. Like I thought a lot of that was overblown. Like to me, the bigger thing is like, if you're going to go to a group, that group has to perform. And we saw some of the upside of the two big looks, right.

We saw Chet with some more opportunities to attack from the perimeter. We saw some of the high low passing as Hartenstein caught a short roll pass and throw a lob to Chet that he dunked. That lineup can be successful. Again, I think I didn't think that was like the reason they lost in Game one or anything like that, but we did see that tonight. We saw how it can

be impactful. Is say Hartenstein on the floor in twenty two minutes, the thunder were plus seventeen and again, like I think, I think it all just depends, like there's so many different looks that they can go to. Like, the reality is is that with Caseen Wallace, they absolutely have the type of perimeter defense talent and athleticism to still compete on the glass and still stay in front of the ball and it's still swarm in and out of double teams in the post, and they still can

do everything with those groups. It's just guys missed open looks at the end of game one, and so now all of a sudden, it's like Dagnault made some catastrophic decision that ruined the series or whatever it is that was flying around after those couple of games.

looks like for him when it's when he struggles, what it looks like for him when he's playing really well, like a big giveaway from me with Nicole Yokich is his three point shooting. Like, when he has his three point shooting going, I know that all of a sudden it opens up this whole pick and pop and like attacking closeouts part of his game that can be downright deadly, right.

And then we also know that when Jokic gets tired, he can kind of lose control of things on the defensive end in terms of just how active he is at the level of the ball screen with his hands and how much resistance he offers at the rim when

he's in deeper drop coverages or when he's in help. Similarly, you know we've been learning about Shay and how like Shay in certain types of games, Like to me, the bad game for Shae is like what Game one was, where he comes out and just shoots every damn shot and keeps his team out of rhythm, right, Like, that's what a bad game looks like for Shay, And a bad game for a guy like Tyre's Halliburton is gonna look very different than it does compared to some of these other guards.

like twenty five shots. Like, He's not the kind of guy that gets elite separation off the dribble from awesome defenders.

down off the nail or into the nail. Help, he's gonna take the swing pass. You die on the screen, he'll take to pull up three. You apply a little bit of back pressure, he's gonna attack and wait till somebody reacts to him. If you leave a little bit of a gap in there, he'll take the float, he'll take the mid range jump.

drop coverage. Looks to me like he got a floater and drop coverage because he was open the dunk. Remember the dunk that he got. It was a stack pick and roll where they backscreened for the role man and uh literally, okay, Soe did a terrible job defending it and he got a wide open dunk. He had another drop coverage play where he hit like a little elbow jumper. Like the toughest one he hit was also a drop

coverage shot. It was like a side view contest from jadub where he hit a three a off the right wing when it was after he made a bunch of shots in a row and he was in a good rhythm and hit another wide open three out of the

right corner. Like he got going as Oklahoma City lightened up their defensive intensity and he started getting easy clean the offense, Like it's not like he was dribbling off of ball screens in the first three quarters and like looking right at good drop coverage looks and was like, nope, I'm gonna pull at James Harden and disappear from the game,

Like no, that's not what he was doing. It's just it's become clear to me that Tyree's has certain limitations like when teams really ratchet up athletically from like start to finish in a game. Like, He's not a guy that's going to demonstrate athletic superiority, get separation over and over again from elite defenders and knockdown shots. He's the Steve Nash of our era. He's gonna keep dribbling in and out of the paint and trying to make something happen.

Like that, That's that's the way he plays. And so I think, like that's not to say that that's not still one of his bad games.

Shae Gills Alexander came. But the flip side is Tyres played a much better floor game in game one, and his team won Game one of the finals, while Shay shot his team out of the game, like quite literally. So again like this is just what that give and take looks like.

the dribble over and over. Again this is Why tyres is probably never going to be a top five player in the league and why he's more like a somewhere in the six to ten range or six to fifteen, range because this is a. Limitation this is a realistic limitation to what he has in his tool bag as an, athlete.

them playing. Hard they obviously play hard, constantly but there have been multiple stretches in this series third quarter tonight first half Of game one where it just felt like they would force an early post entry before swinging the ball around so you get a better, angle or they would Like Ben matherns on the left wing And Pascal siakam Has Cason wallace posted up and instead of making a post, entry he tries to drive into the teeth of the defense and actually makes a decent, kickout but

like instead of taking what was, THERE i thought in, general The pacers just weren't as intentional hosting hunting post up mismatches tonight as they were In game, One and like it just there is a reality to this thunder defense being a team that doesn't break down on the first action and a lot of times not on the second. Action this is a defense you have to break down.

Incrementally it's gotta Be tyree's running an action at the top of the key that generates just the slightest bit of a closeout for like you, Know nemhard or somebody else off the left wing with someone sprinting at. Them then he's got to rack away from the ball from the close, out and he's gotta get an even bigger

help rotation from a different. Player and then he's gonna swing and that guy's gonna get closed out on he's got to, drive and it's like there's gonna be you, know four or five sixty seven pass possessions just for The pacers to get decent looks against this thunder off at thunder. Defense but to be, CLEAR i have pretty consistently seen them in the series when they need to generate quality, shots when they can move the ball, around when they're, deliberate when they don't turn it, over they

can get good. Looks and so again for This indiana, team it's about not losing their composure Against Oklahoma city's ball. Pressure it's The Oklahoma city has done a good job of getting The pacers to not look like the pay for some of these stretches just with their poor decision making and the sloppy. Turnovers and it's a credit to their, defense but it's a reality For indiana in terms of hanging onto the rope in this. Series they've got to

hang on for dear. Life and the way they can hang on for dear life is by that incremental breaking down of the. Defense get the ball at the floor, quickly you, know early in the shot. Clock if they get a clean look at, three, sure take, it but like keep it moving side to. Side eventually something somebody will sink into far to the. Paint somebody will make a. Mistake Oklahoma city makes fewer mistakes than their peers around the league by pretty wide margin on the defensive end

of the, floor but they still make. Mistakes and so to put it, simply if you run more action in each, possession you're gonna have more opportunities.

One it wasn't like he was having some crazy offensive. Game he had some shots, Late but like, it like,

ultimately in this, series he's the advantage. Creator he's the guy that is going to find that first little crack In Oklahoma city's defense and then the ball is going to continue to be worked around and it's going to be a team effort for them to break this, Down LIKE i if people are Expecting tyrese to to just flex his scoring muscles in this, SERIES i just don't think it's something he's going to be able to.

little bit. Earlier not that he needs to be thirty points a, game can get in a little bit of a rhythm as a score earlier in the.

Months but like the scoring, archetype their demons in their head try to get them to shoot when they probably should. Pass and for the playmaking, archetype the demons in their head are like pass the ball when they probably should. Shoot and so, yeah like this was a bad game From.

TYRESE i want to be, Clear i'm just, saying Like i'm starting TO i understand more of What tyrese's bad games look like in the sense that he knows like you think he's looking at Lou, dort, like let me just go to, like, no that's not what he's thinking when he's looking at that. Matchup he's if he'd had to play one on one against Lou, dort there's a

chance that he'd really struggle to get shots. Up like LIKE i, mean like literally if they played Like Lance stevenson and who's it Of Mike beasley the other, Day so like you if you play that kind of, game that's not that's not his. Game but like to your, point maybe taking a couple more of those like one or two more of those like questionable looks in the first few quarters could go a long way towards giving him a little bit more rhythm when he needs to score.

with his attacks in the second half Of game. One he just hasn't been able to find his three point shot. Yet but, like a lot of this is comfort and rhythm and like like it really doesn't matter as long

as he hits him when he needs. To so like here you are one to one there's gonna probably be a, chance maybe It's game, three maybe It's game four where he's gonna need to hit some catch and shoot, threes and if he hits those, ones like, yeah there are gonna be people who hunt the box score and be, like, oh he didn't have a very good statistical, series but ultimately to win this, series he's just gonna have to hit some more jump. Shots AND i think he's certainly

capable of. It BUT i thought he played pretty well tonight to be.

Right so what Makes shay's such an elite. Scorer it's, one he's got this unbelievable first, step but, two he also like has the ability to out of any footwork from any spot on the, floor rise up into a jump. Shot he can turn over his right, shoulder he can turn over his left, shoulder he can step back going, right he can step back going, Left he can do all of the different jump shooting angles and finishes and

things along those. Lines and so as a result of, that like he is not short of ways to get a shot off against an elite. Defender, Now Tyre's halliburton doesn't elevate super high on his jump, shot doesn't really have the ability to shoot fadeaways over both, shoulders like turning and spinning out of the post or anything like. That but what he does have is he's a very

good three point. Shooter and SO i imagine it being more of like if he can get to the point where like he does a lot of stuff out of a high hesitation on his right, Hand like he kind of is constantly like feathering together high. Hesitations everything chains together from.

THERE a lot of times you'll like chain three or four of them together while he's waiting for a play to, develop, right and he's just kind of eyes on the, rim handing that high hesitation like maybe a dame step, back like just really a really hard in and out dribble to get just that little tiny bit of separation and rise and fire and then just a little bit of work quickening the release and then again like it's all, levels, Right like everyone wants to know the difference Between steph

and all the other great guards of his. Era you want to know what it. Is a chasm of the ability to make three point. Shots like, ultimately it's about becoming a guy that doesn't hit thirty seven thirty eight percent of, them but becoming a guy that hits forty

two forty three percent of them at high. Volume and SO i THINK i think the best pathway For tyres to have him reliable is the wrong, word because there'll still be some some variance involving shooting but, like to, me the pathway For tyrese to become a guy who can like average twenty five points a game in a playoff run is to just become one of the best shooters in the. LEAGUE i think that's the move for.

Him and then, again like just little quick moves that capitalize on his speed and his passing ability to like sneak three point shots off against the.

build that part of your game. Out that attention to, detail that fear of losing that that like just unwillingness to let it happen, again, Right and SO i absolutely think The Ncason tournament lost help this.

hell off when it comes To Anthony. Edwards but With, ben there is like you saw, It like he admitted a couple of, fouls but like he can slide those feet and stay in front of a pretty quick athlete In, Shaye like he's got a ton of potential as a defensive. Player his downhill athleticism is a legitimate. Problem he's able to draw fouls against The Oklahoma city. Team he's got to continue to polish up the jump shot and his decision,

making and there's certainly a long way to. Go but Like ben strikes me as a guy who by age twenty, six age twenty, seven is going to be a guy who could be in that like twenty five to thirty five range in this. League LIKE i absolutely think he can, be like you, know a guy who makes An All star team or two and is like a rock, solid high level starter in this. League and so LIKE I

i'm pretty high On. Ben and to, me you, KNOW i had we had a mailback question the other day where someone asked, like, hey like what about the you, know like what about the two in the three spot for the? Pacers should they look to upgrade that this? Summer and, like to, Me, Ben ben's that. Guy ben's the guy that can age into being the upgrade at the two or the. Three he's the guy that can

bring that real athletic pop and scoring. Pop so, Like i'm a big believer In ben and like the fact that you're getting anything useful out of him at this point as a twenty two year old in this rotation is is to me found. Money All, right, guys that's all we have for tonight on YouTube, again running over to playback that's playback dot tv slash. Shoops, tonight we'll be taking some callers and hanging out for a little. WHILE i appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the.

Show for those of you guys who are not following, us over to. Playback tomorrow, MORNING i am recording With kevin O'Connor's coming on the. Show first time. Guest i've been on his show a couple, times but he's coming on our show and we're gonna be breaking down the first two games of THE Nba. Finals that'll probably be up sometime right, around like you, know eleven hour or

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