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our YouTube comments. We can hit them in our weekly mail bags throughout the remainder of the year. All right, let's talk some basketball. First question, Hey, Jason Shay took thirty shots and only had thirty one points on those shots, not including free throws, while only dishing out three assists. It sort of felt like he tried to be Superman and it played right into the PACER's hands. What do you think Shay has to do differently in game two?

Love the show, Thanks again for supporting the show. So I those of you guys who watched yesterday's film session, we'll have a little bit of an understanding of this concept from the film. But I talked after Game one about how it felt to me like Shae was trying to kind of force his way into rhythm under the NBA Finals environment, and after rewatching the game, and I talked about this in the film session, actually ended up disliking a lot of the shots that he took early.

You know, I talked about in the film session the idea of investing in rhythm, and that, to me is such an important part of a point guard's job. You are the ultimate decision maker on a possession by possession basis on the offensive end of the floor, and if you invest in rhythm by moving the ball, it's more like that later in the game when you need people to be involved, when you need guys to make shots,

it's more likely that they lock them down. We've jokingly been talking about the Indiana Pacers and the damage that they've done in this postseason run with crazy shot making at the end of games, and would jokingly call it like devil magic or voodoo or whatever it is. And there's a certain amount of like, yeah, it's pretty wild that they've hit as many tough shots as they have hit.

But as as is always the case, variance or randomness is going to be pretty far down the list in what plays into that outcome compared to real basketball concepts. And if there's something to be said about the way the Pacers play, it's that they keep everyone involved throughout

the game. The usage rate for their top player, and Tyrese Haliburton, is about twenty one percent in the regular season, right that's way below what you see from a typical on ball guard who is usually determining the outcome of

every single possession. Starts from Tyrese and Rick Carlyle on the identity they breed in the team, and then from there it's just the group of players all trusting each other and keeping the ball moving from side to side and keeping everyone involved as a result, like Let's look at those tough shots that got made down the stretch

that game. I saw Miles Turner hit a contested three over Hartenstein on the right wing, a contested step back three over chet Holmgren on the left wing, a really tough leaning kind of drop cover like a pick and roll popped the short roll shot around the right elbow that he hit. They're down the stretch. Who else hit a tough shot? Aaron Nesmith flying into that left corner off of the move right, who else hit a tough shot?

Andrew Nemhard hitting off the dribble, crazy step back against shake Yild, Justs Alexander right then Tyrese Haliburton hits the game winner. A bunch of different guys hit tough shots because a bunch of different guys are involved throughout the game with shake Yield, Justs Alexander randomly. We got some good rhythm for lou Dort, who had a lot of pretty tough contested shots in that game. But no other Thunder player outside of Shae or lou Dort was in

any sort of rhythm. And that is the downside of approaching the game the way that Shaye did. Again, if you guys want to see visual examples of what I'm talking about, go to our film session that we released yesterday. But the long and short of it is, Shay came into this game and took a ton of mediocre shots that he could have got later in the clock. Go move the ball around. If Indiana closes out well and dudes don't get good looks, it'll work its way back

to you. Go take that, saying contested eighteen footer, but I thought he took a lot of those shots early in the clock and kind of bailed the Pacers out and prevented his team from getting into the rhythm that they needed to get into to be better on the offensive end of the floor. Next question, who is the

most important role player moving forward in this series? This is an interesting question, So I think on the Pacers front, I'm gonna stick with exactly what I said in the series preview, and I thought it showed again last night, Miles. When Miles Turner is hitting threes and when he's beating post mismatches or beating offensive rebounding mismatches, he is deadly impactful. In this particular matchup against a Thunder team that can't match up with his size, even with their biggs, who

can be a little small right compared to him. So like Miles Turner, to me, is the key to everything for Indiana in terms of their role player talent. If he's hitting picking pop threes and he's successfully beating post mismatches and rebounding mismatches, he is the catalyst for their ability to score against this Oklahoma City defense. On the Oklahoma City front, it's really all of their spot up shooters. But I'm gonna focus on lou Dort just so that

I can give you one specific player. But it's really all of their their spot up shooters. As you guys saw in the film session yesterday, really really overreacting to Shay and JDub drives sometimes three even four helpers meeting in the lane. The kickouts were there. Cason Wallace got good looks late, he missed. Jadub got good looks late. Miss lou Dort is going to be the consistent guy because jadeb I don't think counts as a role player. He's the co star. Cason might not be on the

floor when they go big with Isaiah Hartenstein and Cheded Holmgren. Right, So the consistent guy who's probably gonna keep getting those clean catch and shoot looks throughout the series and needs to hit them is Lou Dort. So those are who I think are the two most important role players in

the series for either team. Other question. Also, one thing that stood out, especially after that first avalanche of turnovers, is that Indiana starters outplayed Okac's pretty consistent, pretty convincingly in that second half startling trend, considering the massive success, the massive success that Turner, Hallie, Nemhardeni, Smith, and Pascal have already had. So here's the thing. I agree that Indiana's starters out played Oklahoma City starters, especially in the

second half of that game. But I think it's pretty clear that there was an order of operations problem with Indiana or with Oklahoma City, with Shay and Jadub not investing in their their role players more frequently throughout the game, Like there's a chance that you get more out of Chet, you get more out of Case and Wallace, you get more out of Jadab, even if the ball just is

flowing more throughout the game. And so I think in general, Oklahoma City starters didn't play well and so they're capable of playing a lot better heading into a Game two, but I do agree that Indiana starters outplayed them in game one. How rare is it that the Pacers play with this consistent effort throughout the series and games going against the traditional flow of playoffs. Usually stealing game one on the road would definitely mean the team will get

blown out in game two. But you know that's not going to be the case. So I've thought a lot

about this within the concept of game two. Right, So in game two we have typically seen in this sort of situation, the team that's down one zero bring a ton of energy, and it's like a kind of a two very powerful forces of energy clashing here, because on the one hand, we have an Indiana Pacers team that stole Game one against Milwaukee and then one game two, and then stole game one against the Calves, and then one game two and then well, I guess they actually

get the games that they actually stole in the Cave series was game two. But the point is is they won game two after going up one, oh right, against the Knicks. Same thing. They steal game one in crazy fashion, they still come back and win game two. So Indiana is stolen game two after going up one oh on the road in all three series. But actually I think in the Indiana series they were at home for the

first two games. But the point is they won up two to oh in all three series, and in the Calves matchup, and in the Knicks matchup they managed to win game two on the road despite going up one oh. But then we on the other side of it, we have Oklahoma City who against Denver toasted off game one and then they came out and beat the shit out of the Nuggets in Game two. Right, So which of those forces is going to win in this particular matchup. Well, let's talk about each team. What do we expect from

Indiana in game two Pacers basketball? I expect Pacers basketball with fewer turnovers than they had in Game one, So I'd argue that Pacers will probably play a little bit better in Game two than they played in Game one. That said, as we saw in the film session, as we've talked about ad nauseum over the last couple of days, Shay can play a much better floor game just keeping

his teammates involved. J Dubb needs to not settle for so many jump shots earlier in the game and look to attack and guys are certainly capable of doing a better job knocking down the open catch and shoot threes that those guys generate. Oklahoma City can play much better, and I do believe they will play much better in Game two. I'm fascinated by TJ McConnell. Is he the least athletic gifted rotation player on an NBA Finals roster

in the modern era? Also, I thought nemhard bringing the ball up in the fourth quarter allowed the Pacers to get into their actions much earlier. How does Oklahoma City counter this in Game two? Great questions? First of all, TJ McConnell, to me, is actually a much better athlete than he gets credit for. He's a pretty damn big, strong guard like he's got a lot of power to his game. But he's very good at changing directions, especially at full speed. He plays with a lot of pace.

He's always attacking already on the move instead of attacking a set defender. And then he's very good at changing direction while going full speed with crossovers and spins and things along those lines. So I actually think TJ McConnell is a very gifted athlete. He has been, in my opinion. One of the best like dribble drive guards in the league for a while in terms of just beating people off the dribble. I don't think that he's a poor

athlete or a guy who lacks athletic gifts. I think he's a guy that is actually a pretty underrated athlete at his position. The pace in general with the Pacers, I thought they did a nice job pushing the ball off the floor consistently in the second half without turning the ball over, which forced a lot of transition cross matches. I didn't think it was just nemhard bringing the ball off the floor. I thought it was just kick ahead passes and just playing with a lot of pace and

guys running and just playing Pacers basketball. Oklahoma City can only do so much to stop that. With the way that Indiana plays. They did stop easy runouts. There's a few of them, like Siakam snuck past Chet for an easy layup at one point in the second half, but overall it's not like they were giving up like easy stuff in the early part of transition. It's just the

cross matches that come from that. In Indiana's ability to punish mismatches, I thought the main thing that Oklahoma City can clean up defensively heading into Game two is just their overhelp. There's just too many examples of them, like sending two three guys at a dude in the paint, and when Indiana is not turning the ball over and they're spraying the ball out, there's the easy open shots and it's like, yeah, like Toppin's gonna knock that down.

You know, Turner is gonna knock that down. The Nie Smith's gonna knock that down. So there's a certain amount of like they've got to be a little bit more decided, like a little bit more Hickey I should say about when they decide to help in those situations in Game two? Did Mark Dagnall blow his wad too early by adapting to pacer style basketball before trying to play thunderstyle back squad?

What adjustments does he have left? Seems like he doesn't think they can get into their half court set against this team. I don't think Mark's worried about their ability to get into their offense. I think he knows that Shane and j Dubb played a poor game, and I think he's gonna go over with them in film, and I think they're going to clean it up. I think Shane and j dub are both going to be way

better in Game two now. When I look at it in terms of adopting the pacer style basketball, the big criticism is that Mark Dagnall went slow or went small down the stretch. Right when he went small, they started giving up a bunch of offensive rebounds to Siakam and

Turner underneath the basket. Here's the thing, there's a certain amount of those offensive rebounds that they're gonna be able to get no matter what against switches like it doesn't matter if chets on the floor, if chets on the perimeter, and Turner's got a small underneath the basket, and so to me, it's more just they got to do a better job when they're giving up those mismatches of get like gang rebounding. Everyone's got a crash. Dudes got to

come flying in to knock away the ball. Overall, as a team, they got to do a better job playing winning those contested rebound battles. Right as far as like defensive adjustments that are available to them, the only big one that I see is just those help and recover decisions that we talked about earlier, just being a little bit more picky about when they offer a ton of help and leaf shooters open in the process. Next question, why didn't Indy take the ball out of SGA's hands

and double So this is complicated. They weren't doubling that much. They were throwing some pretty aggressive hedges in the second half, and they gave up some slips and some rolls out of that, But for the most part, they were offering all that extra defensive attention at Shay after he beat his man off the dribble, Like there was a play where he split a ball screen against Obi Toppen when he went to hedge and got right downhill and then three pacers just met him right in the lane. The

double team, so to speak. The getting the ball out of Shay's hands, so to speak, came late in the form of sending aggressive help at the rim, and they're being kickout opportunities, And honestly, I thought Shaye did a nice job down the stretch of making those kickouts. Dudes just got to make shots. And the second piece of it is if Shay invests more early in the game at getting those guys shots, they might be more comfortable and more able to knock down those shots when they

get into crunch time late. Next question, how did the Celtics out clutch the Pacers four times last playoffs? Granted without Halley for part of it. Couldn't that loss or could that loss be part of Carlisle's inspiration to build the most clutch and resilient team I've seen in recent history?

A couple things. First of all, that Celtics team was a special team, very very very good team that had the ability to consistently generate great shots down the stretch, punishmentsmatches, and they were such a high level defensive team last year in the postseason. The second piece of it is I think Haliburton is the key. Like in these games that they've stolen, who's been the guy that's had the

magic late. It's been Tyrese Haliburton in his ability to beat Giannis off of the dribble for Iso scooping layup right. It's been Tyre's Halliburton hitting that step back at the top of the key in Game two over ty Jerome to win Game two against the Calves. It was Tyrese Halliburton hitting the step back foot on the line jump shot against the Knicks in Game one that sent that game to overtime. It was Tyrese Halliburton last night hitting

the off the dribble jump shot. Like Tyrese Halliburton brings the upside because he's just a better player now than he was last year, because he's healthier, he has his hamstring underneath him, and he's just in a better physical position to be impactful down the stretch of these games. Then down the roster, everyone was just a little better. And Mark's a little better than he was last year. Meie Smith is considerably better than he was last year.

Turner's playing the best basketball of his career. All these dudes are just playing better, and so they're a better version of what that Pacers team was last year. Last question on this series, and then we'll move on to some stuff around the league. After all the talk about the Thunder being compared to the KD Warriors, how even more laughable is that comparison now? After Game one a couple things. I agree that comparing this Thunder team to

the KD Warriors is silly. That team was obviously better. Kevin rant was the third best player in the league at that point in time. Steph was the second best player in the league at that time. Klay Thompson was probably the best three and D guy in the entire

NBA at that point. Andre Gudala was probably like a top two or three like Swiss Army Knife role player Ford in the league at that time, and Draymond Green was the best defensive player of his era and very much at the peak of his powers at that point in time. So I think there's a pretty large gap between Golden State and the second best champion of this era.

If Oklahoma City can win the series, which is an if obviously, then I think they kind of take that second spot in terms of talent and what they have defensively and the job they did getting out of that Western Conference. But yeah, I think comparing them to the KD Warriors is foolishness. That team is the most talented roster ever assembled in NBA history. Two of the top three players in the league all veteran experienced talent, not guys that are new and green and unfamiliar with this stage.

So I didn't see that comparison. That said, before you go burying the thunder, who cares if they will lose Game one? If they win the next four and they win the series in five, They're still going to be looked back at as a team that's one of the most dominant teams in NBA history within a single season.

So don't bury the thunder yet. Even though I don't think they're as good as the KDE Warriors, they still have a very good chance to win this series, and to win convincingly if they can apply themselves.

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offer for Yannis, what does it look like? Okay, from what I understand, I believe they only have access to one first round pick this summer if I'm remembering correctly, So they don't have the draft compensation to get into a bidding war for a guy like Yiannis. In theory, now, if you get a third team involved, or if you can convince the Bucks that they want to take back of McHale, Bridges or you know, I would argue you might want to even look at trading Og because he

plays the same position as Yannis. But whatever it is, if you're gonna look to move one of those guys in the Bucks are like, yeah, we want win now, pieces, sure, let's do it. That's great. But like I think that the Bucks are probably more interested in draft compensation. And if that's the case, then you got to get a

third team involved. And so now you're looking at getting a third team involved and trading basically Og or McHale or Towns or whoever it is, whatever you decide to give up for draft compensation that then gets rerouted towards the Bucks in a y honest deal. But like to me, it's just the reality is is that there are teams that can absolutely outbid everybody with respect to Giannis. Like the Spurs just have so many more picks to throw on the table, the Rockets have so many more picks

to throw on the table. If one of those teams decides to get involved with Giannis, they can just so much easier get that sort of deal done right and so viewed as a long shot. But if they do get out bid, should they shift towards a more achievable target like KDI. Absolutely. Their roster is pretty much guys in their late twenties, so they're a bit of a shorter window anyway, so I wouldn't be overly concerned about

tying my self to an older player. Kd's game translates super well in the late phase of his career, especially in a team like this that has so much talent that he wouldn't be depended on as much. And there's an easy vehicle in the form of Carl Anthony Towns Phoenix really wants a kind of a franchise starting center.

If that's the framework of the deal, and it's Karl Anthony Towns and a first round pick for Kevin Durant and the Sons get a younger star that's been back to back conference finals, And look, do I think that makes the Suns a very interesting team? No, but I don't think the Suns are a very interesting team now.

So at that point, whatever, and if you could somehow pull that sort of deal off and get Kevin Durant, that that puts you in a pretty damn strong position going into next season, especially in an Eastern conference that is wide open with Boston falling apart, with Milwaukee falling apart, Like this is a winnable conference out East, and I would view Kevin Durant as a target there that I think would put the Knicks into another echelon in terms

of reliable scoring talent. Also, Kevin Durant's a very good defensive player in a low man context when you can protect the rim, be a defensive rebounder, things along those lines. So like, again, if you need to get more draft compensation, maybe you do end up including like an OG and a separate you know three team structure that sends more

draft compensation towards the Suns. But if you can get rid of Towns and keep one of your two forwards, and keep Brunson and get Kevin Durant, I think that's a very interesting team in a wide open Western Conference or Eastern Conference. Excuse me, not quite related to this finals, but seeing how far the Knicks went and how open the East is next year, should the Pistons consider going in a bit harder next year seeing that they might not actually be that far away? In general, what's a

realistic move for them this summer? So again, I if I'm remembering correctly, if the Pistons let all of their cap holds walk, so if they let like Dennis Walk and Tim Hardaway Junior walk and all these guys, I think the max cap space they can put together is about nineteen millions, like nineteen twenty million something along those lines.

That's not enough to bring in a super high level free agent, right, especially when I would argue that Tim Hardaway Junior and Dennis Schroeder kind of if you can bring them back on team friendly deals, that's actually better than going out to get a free agent. I would try to get those guys tied up on relatively short term mid level contracts, meaning around two years or less, or like a team option for the third year shirt that you have some flexibility, but like a two year

deal somewhere in the fifteen to twenty million range. If you can do something like that for those guys where there are mid level contracts where like, you know, one of them's in the you know, five to ten million range and the other ones in the ten to fifteen million range or something, they become trade pieces at that point, trade filler if the right sort of move just kind of materializes this summer for you to jump on. But again, don't jump the gun on a player that is going

to shorten your window. Caid is a franchise altering type of talent. He is roven that he can succeed at the highest levels of basketball. I'm a believer in him. You have Jade and Ivy coming back, You've got young role player talent and Nasar Thompson. You like, you have the ability to be patient here while also having guys like Tobias Harris, guys like Malik Beasley, guys like Tim Hardaway Junior on team friendly deals. That you can still be competitive in the short term, but then turn your

attention in the draft towards off ball scoring talent. That's the big one with the you know, I think sar Thompson obviously has the ability to be one of the better kind of like perimeter like d and three types of players in the league right as a guy that can guard the opposing best player. He's a guy that obviously, if they can unlock some of the vertical spacing stuff that the Rockets do with the men Thompson, he can become a better offensive player and we'll see how his

jump shot develops over time. Ron Holladay obviously is like another kind of like athletic type of young wing. What they're missing is like older college talent, So like guys that are in you know, three four year college guys that you can find in the middle of the first round, late first round, guys that can that have been playing in a winning context as like weak side scorers, guy that can knock down jump shots and drive closeouts, things along those lines. I think there's a lot of opportunity

in the draft for that sort of talent. So the point is is like let this thing grow slowly. Don't jump the gun for an Eastern Conference Finals appearance that ends up shortening your window. Don't make the mistake that the Cavs did with Lebron in early you know, in the early part of his career, where they kept making these kind of mediocre aggressive deals and getting guys like Antoine, Damson Jamison and Mo Williams that were good players, made

team better, but didn't make them a championship team. And so patience is the name of the game. The specific type of talent they need. I like where they're at at center. I like where they're at with their shot creators. I like where they're at in terms of having athletic guys on the perimeter that can guard and fly up

and down the floor. What they're missing is just off ball skill, basically, guys that you can phase out Tim Hardaway and Malik Beasley and phase in younger versions of those players that you find in the middle to late portion of the first round in the draft. We have five more questions. I heard san Vassini suggests the framework of an Austin Reeves Derek Lively trade. What are your thoughts on that? From both sides? I said this a while back, and it's kind of my current stance with

respect to an Austin Reeves trade. I think it makes sense to trade Austin Reeves as long as you get back either one a very good ball handler that can be that secondary ball handler next to Luca and is a better athlete, okay, or two two high level starters. Okay. If I can turn Austin into Derek Lively and a guy like a PJ. Washington, then sure, I think it

starts to make some sense. But if I'm just getting Derek Lively, I feel like Austin Reeves just a better player, a better asset, even though I think Lively obviously fits the big picture goals of the Lakers, and so I would trade Austin for Derek as long as I also got PJ back as a legitimate starting caliber piece of forward depth, right, And that's a guy that when Lebron retires, PJ.

Washington could just slide in at the four, you know, And obviously it brings a death piece in that regard in the short term, right, But like just flipping Austin for like a starter, he's a better starter, that doesn't make any sense. I think it makes some sense. To at least look around trading Austin, because I don't think it makes a ton of sense to have two unathletic guards in Austin and Luca as foundational players in your starting lineup. But you don't just get rid of him

for the sake of getting rid of him. You get rid of him for high value and nothing less than that. Alright, I changed my mind. I actually doubled up the Yannis question, so we actually have we actually only have three questions left looking at this Pacers and Thunder team. What could they do in the offseason to further push them to the chip. Both have a good amount of draft picks, and it seems the Thunder needs scoring and playmaking help. Well. I think the Pacers could use an upgrade at the

two to three position. So I actually disagree with this. I don't think the Thunder should make a move for Giannis. They're obviously very they're either a championship team, which the series isn't over, or they're very very close to being a championship team. And Chet's gonna get better, j Deb's

gonna get better. They're young, the sky's the limit. Like, I don't think it makes a ton of sense to shorten your window to make to give you a better chance at you know, one single championship in this regard like I then also I just think it'd be bad for the league if Yannis went to Oklahoma City. So

I don't think Oklahoma City should do anything. As far as the Pacers go, like like, honestly, there's a bit of a five out spacing concept with the guy like Siakam, where even though Siakam's not as good as Jiannis, I think there's a little bit of a diminishing return. The Pacers are very ball and player movement heavy offense, and Giannis is more of like a like brute force, you know, just sheer force of will and power type of weapon.

He's not a guy that is known for being a super super high level quick decision read and react player and three point shooter and all those things that are so important in the Indiana Pacers offense. I don't really see that as as a realistic type of move And then as far as the two and three goes, I think I think them Hard and Smith are strengths in this offense as ball pressure guys that can run, action and shoot. Like I don't necessarily think an upgrade there

is something that you look outside the roster for. If anything, Ben Matherin in his potential and it continues to grow and develop in coming years, and he becomes your upgrade at the two and three. In the big picture, highly unlikely that this would happen due to the current circumstances and the beef, But I feel the Pacers are the perfect team for you. He'd elevate the defense, and I feel Holley would complement Jannis perfectly with East kind of

in limbo right now. Thoughts on this, As I mentioned earlier, I just don't. I don't think Jannis fits as well with Indiana as he does in some other situations. It doesn't mean like Giannis would make the Pacers better. He's be honest, But the point is is like you'd have to give up a ton to get him, and it is a little bit of a diminishing return in a system that prioritizes three point shooting and read and react quickness, which are two kind of weaknesses for Yannis relative to

his strengths. Last question, did we undervalue Indiana's shot making ability to before the series? While weighing While weighing Oklahoma City's ability to turn people over too much. Game is about getting buckets and making tough jumpers, and if the Playoffs is any evidence, they do it better than almost anyone we've seen. This is an interesting question, and I appreciate you asking it because it's caused me to look

at things a little bit differently. I would argue that Shay and Jadab are better tough shot makers than Halliburton and Siakam as a unit, mainly on the strength of Shay obviously, but where I think it gets interesting is as you go down the roster. I do think the Pacers are a better aggregate tough shot making team. Nie Smith can make tough shots. Nemhard can make tough shots. Turner can make tough shots. TJ McConnell will make tough crazy fadeaways, Ben Mathern can make tough shots. Obi Toppin

can make tough shots. I do think there's an aggregate tough shot making piece with the Pacers which is really fascinating and has shown in a big way in this postseason run. And so honestly, with the way that their offense works and all the whirling around looking for great shots, it doesn't really matter where the ball ends in the sequence, you know, with four or five seconds on the shot, like, any of those dudes can put the ball in the

floor and create a decent look for themselves. And I do think that that aggregate shot making talent has been a little bit underrated as far as Oklahoma City's ability to turn people over and whether or not that's being weighed properly. We have one game, and in the first half it worked marvelously and in the second half it didn't. So I think we just need more data before we can really speak, you know, with conviction in that specific regard.

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