Hoops Tonight - Donovan Mitchell trade reaction: Utah Jazz send star guard to Cleveland Cavaliers

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the corner, well out of nowhere. These Cleveland cavaliers end up stealing Donovan Mitchell. Now I shouldn't say completely out of nowhere, because they were briefly mentioned in the discussions, but Ian Bagley had reported late earlier this week I believe that the Calves had dropped out of that race, So we had all kind of viewed them as out of sight, out of mind. But as it turns out, Danny Age wanted draft compensation, and the Calves were willing

to give more draft compensation than the next war. They circled back to him that this was reported by Jake Fisher. Uh. They circled back and asked the Knicks for their final best offer, and they were only willing to give two picks, and they ended up losing the race. So a lot of really interesting perspectives to look at from this deal.

We're gonna look at it from the Cavs perspective, from the Jazz perspective, from the Knicks perspective, and then the Lakers as well, because now they become an interesting candidate to steal some of these veteran role players from the Jazz. Now that we know that Danny Age wants draft picks, um, then for those of you guys who are fans of the shows, stick around after I have to update my Bulls season preview because some of you guys in the comments pointed out that I had missed Gore on Dragics

as one of their signings. They're had there every offseason, hundreds of personnel transactions around the league, and I'm going to miss some. So please, if you guys can help me, If you guys see me in my season previews, forget a name, especially an important one, dropping in the comments, and I'll make sure that I update that as we

get further along. I'm also I watched Lithuania versus Slovania this morning, which was an amazing basketball game, one of the more entertaining basketball games that I've watched in this year. I'm gonna give a short breakdown on that as well. At the end, I'm gonna do a video breakdown on Spain pick and Roll, a concept that we're gonna talk about a lot on this show and I want to make sure that you guys have a good understanding of it so that I can reference it throughout the year

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audio form under hoops tonight. A couple other things too, I'd appreciate bear you guys could, If you guys could bear with me today, I have terrible allergies and so that's been driving me nuts. So this will be a little sniffle e and a little uh, a little weak voiced. Also, I know some of you guys have been complaining about this ancient history. I don't even know what you call this thing that's behind me, the ancient piece of furniture.

My studio is getting remodeled. It is almost done, probably our next video. I'll be back in the studio. Just wanted to get some permanent adjustments and stuff made so that it's better for this whole season. So again I apologize for the setup. But just just one more show, guys, and then we'll be back to normal. All right, Let's start from the perspective of the calves so before the trade, the Calves were an excellent defensive team when Evan Mobiley

and Jared Allen were on the floor. That was the really interesting dynamic of last year's team. It was like Darius Garland and Colin Sexton, these two dynamic guards, and then you had Lori markin In, this huge forward that could shoot on the wing, and then Jared Allen and Evan Mobiley, and they were a very good team with those five on the floor. And then the injuries start. It's stacking up. Evan mobile or excuse me, Lori Markin

ended up getting hurt. Evan Mobiley missed some time in the middle of the season, Jared Allen had that finger injury at the end of the season, and so things kind of fell apart because of that. But when we got into the postseason you saw pretty quickly and really it was it was a situation throughout the season. As good as they were defensively, their shot creation just wasn't up to what the rest of the league had to offer.

They were twentie in offense um this season. In that Atlanta playing game, the single elimination game after they lost to Brooklyn, they only scored forty points in the second half as they blew a ten point lead. They just don't have enough shot creation to hang with the better teams in the league. So the obvious move there was do you extend callin Sexton and think of that as the guy that can feel that role, or do you

target someone better, And that's basically what they're doing. They're flipping calling Sexton in addition to draft compensation and Lori Marken in for a much much better guard to have as a partner alongside Darius Garland. Darius Garland is a really good guard in this league and a very different type of guard than Donovan Mitchell. He's a little bit more of a playmaker out of high pick and roll as opposed to looking to score like we did. Uh. If you those of you guys who remember, I can't

remember where he was on the list. He might have been twenty four three, but when we did our top twenty five players, Uh, Donovan Mitchell. When I his ability to score the basketball is unassailable. He's one of the best scoring guards that we have in this league. He in his last three postseason runs is averaging ten three point attempts per game and shooting them at forty one. He out of all players in the NBA to run

at least three hundred pick and rolls. Last year, he was third in points per possession, which is incredibly impressive, especially when you factor in the type of role man that he had in Rudy Gobert, who's really flawed. So but his one weaknesses is he doesn't really see the totality of the Game's not a good game manager. Doesn't understand the players rhythm around him and when to shoot versus when to look to get his teammates involved. Darius

Garland is much better in that area. The average nine assists per game last year, still can score the basketball two points per game on fifty eight percent true shooting, an excellent playmaker out of high pick and roll. It'll be it'll be a really interesting one to punch with

the two of them because they have different approaches. And then the most interesting part about that Mobile and Allan, they were excellent defensively, Like I said, they had a one oh three point seven defensive rating with the two of them on the floor. But they're also significantly better role meant than Donovan Mitchell is used to playing with. You know, the big issue with Rudy Gobert is when

they would switch pick and roll. When teams would switch, he'd run down to the Raymond call for the basketball, but nobody on the Jazz would pass him the basketball. And the main reason why is he struggled with the simple concept of a quick seal and a short hook shot. That that little skill not a difficult thing to do. The inability to do that is what makes Rudy Gobert such a limited offensive player. It's why I viewed him

as a negative asset. That's why I was so stunned that Minnesota paid as much for him as they did. Jared Allen is ten times the offensive player that Rudy Gobert is because he can do that. When you switch a pick and roll, he can take the smaller defender down to the block, quick seal, demand the basketball, catch, turn over his left shoulder, and make a right handed hook shot. Just that that is the the must. You can't just be a vertical space or rudygal Gobert is

a great vertical spacer. The problem is, as most defensive schemes and pick and roll coverages do a good job of taking the lab pass away either by offering help out of the week side corner to tag the roller, or by using a drop coverage and keeping the big back by the rim. So when you take away those lobs, you have to find other ways to score and pick and roll in. One of the easiest ways to do it is if you drag the big in the drop

away from the play. It forces them to switch, at which point the guard will run and dive to the big man. That's when you can throw the ball to Rudy or whoever it is to score. So Donovan Mitchell is now going to have a dynamic rim roller and Jared Allen Evan Mobley is really raw, but he actually projects to be even more dynamic than that. He's got the vertical spacing, he's got the skill around the rim

to attack switches. But he also has the ability with how skilled he is and how well he passes the ball to be good in the short roll. This is where you know, instead of rolling hard to the rim, you just kind of go to the semicircle and ask for the basketball. Then when you catch there, you can either make reads or you can short shoot short jump

shots or little floaters and things like that. He also shows some uh potential as a pop big who can pop to the three point line knockdown three point shots. Didn't shoot the ball well last year, but his form looks good. He should shoot the ball well over the years, and then also attacking closeouts and driving to the basket. He's got potential. Who talked about this um during the

season last year. But the big difference between him in like an Anthony Davis, is he's got such quick feet that he's actually gonna be more dynamic driving the basketball than Anthony Davis was. Obviously, he's got a long way to go to get to that point, but Evan Mobley is a super super interesting player UM to have as another pick and roll partner. So you've got two dynamic pick and roll ball handlers into dynamic pick and roll

roll men. That should make them a lot more interesting on the offensive end of the floor than they were obviously Defensively, it's gonna it's gonna be tricky. They're excellent in the front court, but they've lost a wing in Lori marking In. They've got good athletes on the wing. I actually really like Isaac a Coro, but uh, they're a little bit limited in that in that regard. But it shoot didn't matter with how big they are on the front line, and they're they're deep in the front

line too. They've got Robin Lopez, They've got Kevin Love there. This is an incredibly deep basketball team. Hopefully Ricky Rubio will be coming back as a backup in the backcourt. They've got Carris Laverte. This suddenly looks like as deep and as talented a team as we see in the league.

The weakness will be they don't have you know, what, what do you guys when I'm talking about teams, what's the one thing that I talked about that The Cavs don't have that big mismatch attacking forward right, But maybe Evan Mobile will develop into that for them this year. Um A lot is gonna be on Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland on the defensive end. Donovan Mitchell was on an atrocious defensive player for Utah last year. He's gonna

have to get that together. Daris Garlands not great either, But with as good as they are on the back line, they should still as a team be a better defensive team. They'll just have to figure some of that stuff out to reach their ultimate playoff ceiling. My My one major concern would be when you're running into let's call it a Jimmy Butler out east or a Janice out east, or say you make it to the finals and you run into a Steph Curry or Lebron James or Luca

don Che or a Nicol Yokich. You have to be able to out execute those guys down the stretch of pivotal playoff games. And that is a lot to ask for Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell. So my initial take, and I want to marinate on this longer, and again, we're gonna we're gonna we have to make some adjustments to our power rankings because I did not have the calves in the top fifteen. I mean, look, here's the deal, guys. We had an option, we have a month a month

from today to the start of the preseason. We had an option to either continue doing stupid offseason filler content or to start talking about this year. And I really wanted to get forward into talking about this year. So we started early. And obviously there was a risk that some stuff could happen and mess up our list, and there you go. So we're just gonna call the bulls fifteen A and today was supposed to be the Pelicans

at fourteen. I'm gonna have the Pelicans at fifteen B, whatever you want to call it, and then obviously the Calves will be vaulting up higher up into that list. We knew that was a risk. Like, guys, the Lakers are gonna make some big trade, So whenever the Lakers make their trade, I'm gonna have to change where they show up in the power rankings. Right So, but with Lebron James and Anthony Davis on the roster, I obviously had to have them on my list. So it's an

imperfect system. But anytime anything changes, anytime new information comes out, I promise we'll do a full, deep dive, breakout breakdown into it. When we get to the Calves higher on this list, I will do a much much more in depth breakdown of what I expect the Calves to do on both sides of the ball, because I do think it'll be a lot different with Donovan Mitchell in the mix and without Lori marking in as that huge wing

that they had last year. So looking forward to the Jazz, they're in a full rebuild now, and you know it's funny because Danny Ainge has this reputation as being a guy who's very stingy and trade negotiations, which is why he never made the big deal when he was with the Boston Celtics. Right and to his credit, his stingy nous has paid off in this summer because he's gotten two massive hauls for two players that you wouldn't think

would pull those kinds of halls. Like Donovan Mitchell is a better basketball player than Rudy Gobert, but like I didn't think he'd get this type of package. Rudy Gobert. I was stunned, and I've been wrong about a few things this summer. That to look at, that's the part of the deal. When you make predictions and when you have analysis, especially when you do it as often as I do, you're gonna be wrong about stuff. Um, I did not expect Rudy Gobert to get a big deal.

You have four first round draft picks in a pick swap, Donovan Mitchell three more draft picks and two more pick swaps, So just from Rudy, just from Rudy Gobert and from Donovan Mitchell, they got seven first round picks and three swaps. So, look, we can talk shit about Danny Age all we want, but the dudes kicking ass this offseason, you gotta give

him some credit for that. Um. There was a tweet that came out that they view all of the pieces that came back from Cleveland as projects that they plan on keeping. I thought that was interesting because I thought Lori market it would be a guy that'd consider moving because he's kind of a known commodity at this point.

I think he turns twenty five this year. Um. Them getting sexed in at less than twenty million a year for four years is really interesting because, especially towards the tail end of that deal, if if the salary cap goes up significantly, he could be a really affordable like backup scoring guard or second side scoring guards. So my guess is Utah ends up flipping Colin Sexton at some point during that contract for a couple more picks. They've got all these veteran players on the roster that are

available for picks. We're gonna get to that more with the Lakers. But when it's all said and done, this rebuild could could could end up netting Utah over ten first round draft picks. So huge shout out to Danny Ainge for really impressive offseason. Look, he stood up for what he believed in, something that we've all roasted him for. And he he's winning. Guys, he's winning not real basketball games,

but he's winning at the GM game of rebuilding. Um. The Knicks, so they didn't want to overpay for Mitchell. That's fair. Someone else might be right around the corner, Like you just have to be willing to pay when that right guy comes along, you know. Like there was some debate when Kawhi Leonard became available with the with the Spurs as to whether or not the Lakers could get them. There was intel that said the Spurs didn't

want to do a deal with the Lakers. But the truth of the matter is that the Lakers were also being stingy on price. They missed out on Kauai. Then Anthony Davis came along. They actually threw the kitchen sink of assets and they got Anthony Davis and they won a championship. So that's getting the kind of approach. You gotta look at it from the perspective of the Knicks. You didn't you didn't get Donovan Mitchell. Someone else might

be around the corner when that guy comes along. Don't be cheap, because if you're cheap, you could end up

missing out. Looking forward to the Lakers, so the intel was, as you guys remember, after the Patrick Beverley trade, I really thought the Lakers would turn towards the Indiana trade because I just thought that was a better fit for the direction they were going with the roster, especially with how small Rudy excuse me, um, Patrick Beverley is, and with the fact that they lost Stanley Johnson at the time their biggest and most athletic wing. But they were

waiting aroun on. It looked like from what I had heard that the reason why they weren't going to Indiana route is Indiana wanted two first round picks and they thought they could get involved in a potential Jazz Knicks three teamer for one first round pick. That's why they were looking that way. Well, that three teamers now off the table, so now you gotta look at potentially talking to Ange now that you know he wants draft picks.

Maybe you get something like Malik Beasley and Rudy Gay and Boyan Bogdanovich to six eight wings and another really good shooting guard for maybe two first and Russ again two first round draft picks. That's something that we know Danny Ainge is gonna put a lot of value on. That might be interesting. Maybe they do end up circling back to Indiana now that the three team trade is off the table. Excuse me, um, but all I hope is that the Lakers don't end up using this as

an excuse to bring Russ back into camp. There's been more intel on that front. Mark Stein reported that Darvin Ham has been really pushing for a big role for Russ on this team. I I just think that would be an absolute catastrophe, and if they did that, I think the Lakers would deserve everything that's coming to them. Hell, I'd probably end up turning this season into an opportunity to just scold the Lakers after every loss for self

sabotage at that point. But hopefully they end up circling back and making a deal either with with Utah or with um the Indiana Pacers. I would imagine the Charlotte Hornets are still available as an option there as well. They just need to do something whatever the whatever the deal is, they cannot bring back Russell Westberg. That would just be a disaster. Alright. So what I had planned

on talking about today was the New Orleans Pelicans. Um, but I was going to do a uh an adjustment to my Bulls preview because I missed out on Corn Tragic again, Guys, hundreds of personnel moves. If I miss something, please let me know. I might direct messages open on Twitter. You can do that there, or you can do it

in the YouTube comments. Just let me know if I miss something, or if you're a fan of one these teams and there's a specific dynamic that you think I'm missing that I need to dive deeper in, just remember to let me know. Um. Gore and Joges just Alonzo insurance. That's what he is. After Alonzo went down last year. But he's kind of risky in and of himself. Over the last four years, he's only average forty one and

a half games played. Last year, he was awful. It was the second worst scoring season of Gor and Jdges his career. He ran fifty three pick and rolls and only scored thirty five points. When he's healthy, I really like what he can do with the basketball. He's good off the dribble shooter, a great passer and pick and roll. He's excellent in the midrange specifically, he's got this He's got a good amount of size for compared to a

lot of pick and roll guards in the league. And so you can do this thing where he kind of gets into the lane, gets you on your hip and just as a pound dribble and like step shoots like a step back, like a high arching pull up twelve thirteen footer. He's a very very interesting pick and roll player. He just hasn't been himself lately. And you know, I was watching him in the in the euro the euro Basket today and same thing, Like just doesn't quite look like he has that burst that he used to have.

Although he did make some big plays, hit a couple of huge um jump shots, hit a dagger three pointer today as well. Um uh. This last season he shot

only thirty eight percent from the field from three. So like, look, best case scenario, he gets back to what he was, you know, a couple of years ago with Miami and he becomes you know, because I talked about Alex Crusoe and Alonzo Ball as guys who can attack closeouts and make reads Alonzo's great making reads in the open floor, but neither of them are above average creators against the

set defense. So having gore on Dragic Dragic as you know, an alternative to to the Levine de Rosan stuff where he can attack a set defense, because you can have Drawgics when he's healthy, attacking in high pick and roll against the set defense and he can get you good stuff typically, so that on the best case scenario, you could he could end up being that for him. The other thing too, is he would immediately be their worst defender in the backcourt. So I mean it's Alonzo insurance.

But if he gets if Alonzo gets hurt, I mean that's curtains for Chicago anyway. Um, moving on to Luthuania ever Slovania, this is a really interesting game. It was like, for those of you guys who have been listening to the show for a while, this was like the textbook Biggs Verse perimeter players game, right because you've got Luca don Chechen, Gordon Drag it's too high level NBA ball

handlers versus an undermanned Lithuania backcourt. And then going the other way, you've got Jonas Valanchutas and Domonta Sabonis literally going against an Undermann front court for Sylvania. So it's

kind of like the classic example of that debate. And it was so back and forth because there it was tied seventy three seventy three late in the like mid midway through the fourth quarter, early fourth quarter, and a Valancutas and Sabonis just started cooking in the post and Jonahs Valancionas ends up drawing a foul, and then Sabonus ends up getting Luca Donche on a switch and hitting

an easy hook shot over the top. They go up seventy seventy three, and they called time out, and you're sitting there thinking like, oh, well, maybe the Bigs are gonna win. But almost immediately Luca just starts spamming Spain pick and roll where we're gonna talk about more in a in a in a minute, and he gets Sabonus on these switches and he starts attacking Sabonus and he

starts drawing fouls on Sabonus. And once he starts drawing fouls, then Luthuwaenia starts sending extra help towards Luca and he starts picking him apart hitting cutters underneath the basket for layups, and just methodically executes every trip down the floor to uh to build the lead. On the other end of the floor. They did what I talked about all the time. They just started scramming and crowding Sabonus and Valancotis out

of their post ups. If I'm not mistaken, the rest of the game, they only had one post up, which was Sabonus, and he drew an offensive foul because he elbowed Luca in the face. So the point is, like I always talk about, with bigs, it's just harder to get them to their spots where they can be effective

than it is for perimeter players. There was a nasty play I think it was one to eighty and Lucas attacking off the dribble and he drives right and gets the defender kind of leaning that way, does this nasty pullback dribble, gets tons of separation, just peaks at the rim for a second defender, lunges up, he advances, gets the defender on his hip, slowly works into the lane, just waits just long enough for Jonas Valanciunas to commit, and then wraps it around to his big man for

a layup, and I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is surgery. He's performing half court surgery on Lithuania, which is my favorite thing about that big playmaking forward, which is why I've always viewed that specific archetype as my favorite archetype of player. Um. But like it was, it was just an interesting game, and it came down to the Lithuania punish them with their size or was Slovenia going to pick them apart with their perimeter talent? In

the perimeter talent one just once. Obviously, they're gonna be games where the bigs win, that's you know, and they're gonna be guys who will say use that as an example to argue that bigs are more valuable. But today, for me, it was confirmation of my personal basketball worldview. There were three interesting things that I wanted to hit really quickly from this game. First of all, Luthuania's ball pressure. So to start the game, Lithuania was getting up into

dragics and Luca full court. And I've talked about this a lot on the show, but this concept of like comfort from perimeter players. You know, NBA players are so damn skilled that if you allow them to be comfortable, they will get hot every single time. You know, when you think about the idea of like hot shooting nights versus poor shooting nights, the poor shooting nights almost never happen when they're comfortable. If they're comfortably getting to their spots,

they will naturally build rhythm throughout the game. They will shoot well, and they'll beat you. And your your job as a defense is to try to make them uncomfortable. And when you make them uncomfortable, they might still beat you, but you might force them into bad shooting nights because they struggle to build their rhythm because they're not operating

with enough comfort. And I thought it was a really interesting strategy from Lithuania to pressure the heck out of Luca and gore On just to make them speed up and to be uncomfortable get to their spots but more rushed than they want to or not with the pace that they want to. And as a result, I mean Luca in particular didn't have a great scoring game, right um. But the second thing I want to talk about, there's

an interesting counter from UM Slovenia. In that third quarter, they just started posting Luca don chitch every time down the floor because he's huge, and he has a side miss seize mismatch against every perimeter player on the Lithuanian roster, right, and immediately they want on a run. Ended up taking I think like an eight point lead in that third quarter. First as a score, he spun off of a guy and got a dunk. Then he was passing the ball out of there to get a wide open shots. You know,

this is when I talk about heliocentric players. Heliocentric players are guys that love to attack with live dribble and command every possession. Right. But the difference between Luca and Lebron and the other helio centric players around the league that art is effective the Tray Young's and the James Hardens of the world, and there's a lot of them now. But the reason why is, you know, the James Harden and Tray Young types, it's all high isolation, it's all

high pick and roll. They can't attack from different spots on the floor. So even if they do have a certain amount of success for a certain amount of time, especially in a playoff series, when a defender gets to see that same action, dozens and dozens and dozens of times. It just ends up becoming predictable and they end up having more success defensively, right, And that's the advantage of of what Luca, excuse me, what Luca can do and what Lebron can do. It's like, oh, you know, they're

kind of figuring out the high isolation thing. They're kind of figuring out the high pick and roll thing. I'll take him to the post. Maybe it's a back to the basket, slow, methodical post up. Lebron will do a lot of face up stuff, catching at the elbow and turning and facing. Luca can do that too. The variety in their attack makes it so that they have more

counters when defenses start to figure stuff out. They had some success against Luca ball pressuring in full court, so he gave up the damn basketball and he ran to the post, demanded the basketball and made plays from there. And again. Big guys, especially a lot of you younger big players that want to be ball handlers, the easiest counter for a big player that handles the basketball is to put a small, quick guard on you that can get into your dribble pocket and make you uncomfortable, and

he can beat you to spots. You can't just drive right or drive left because he's gonna slide with you because he's quicker. Right, So if you can give up the basketball and make plays with your back to the basket, look, it doesn't you don't have to dribble anymore. You're fighting for position. You can use your arms to shield the player off and get position too, then turn and face with a triple threat. You don't have to dribble the basketball, and you can work him further to the ask it

by backing him down. That that that is just it's a bit of versatility that I think is almost a lost art in the league these days because post ups are are so few and far between. But I I think it's still a really important way to be a well rounded basketball player. And I thought it was impressive that Luca did that. Um all right last thing for

the night, um Spain pick and roll. So at the end of the game, the Lithuania was spamming Spain pick and roll every time down the floor, and as a result, they were getting switches onto sabonus and they were getting lots of good stuff. Now, uh, Spain pick and roll is one of the most common NBA actions, and I referenced it a lot on the show, so I wanted to take a second to demonstrate it to you guys, so with some video so that you have a really good idea of what I'm talking about every time I

mentioned that for the rest of the season. So first, let's take a look at some video. Let's watch this once in real time, and then we're gonna slow it down. As you can see, Booker ends up getting a wide open three and knocking it down. So as Aden is rolling to the rim, watch Devin book back screen Jonas Valanciunas, which forces Brandon Ingram right here to lunge backwards to help on that lab pass, which allows Devin Booker to

break open to the three point line. Spain pick and roll is all about making your defenders make decisions about whether or not to help or to stay with their man, and it gives your ball handler more options. The Phoenix Suns are one of the best Spain pick and roll teams in the league, probably the best, and the main reason why is because they have the perfect combination of

players to do it. You have Chris Paul, the pick and roll ball handler, who is an outstanding passer, and if you give him space, he can knock down shots. You have DeAndre Ayton, who's an outstanding role man with great hands, who's a problem when he catches the ball within a few feet of the rim, right, and then you have Devin Booker, this amazing shooter, especially on the move, that is the guy who's relocating to the top of

the key. So again it's all about the threats and the combined threats of all three players within that action. If you play off of Chris Paul to deal with Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton, he's gonna get to his pull up jump shot. If you help on that back screen on the roll man, then Devin Booker is gonna get a wide up in three. If Brandon Ingram ignores the that screen and just runs out on Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton is probably catching a lob underneath the rim.

It's an extremely difficult action to defend, especially when you have the right type of personnel to make people pay. These are the little types of of of complications within the NBA that happened in almost every single game, and one of my goals for this season is to help everybody understand that really really well, so that when we're doing our breakdowns, I can mention these things and you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. Alright, on that note,

that is all I have for today. As always, I sincerely appreciate your support. I believe we're taking the rest of the weekend off, so plan on Monday evening getting a full breakdown on the New Orleans Pelicans and us continuing to work our way through these uh through these season previews. The other thing to the Lakers, they Robertlinka's fame us for you know, having that that move in his holster, that backup plan. When his Plan A fails,

he usually goes to plan and be quickly. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers made a made a move sooner than later. Al Right, guys, that's all I have. I'll see you guys after the weekend. M the volume