Hoops Tonight - Darvin Ham Fired: Reaction to Lakers firing head coach, what's next for LeBron & LA?

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a Nuggets Timberwolves film session coming out later today. I'm all so working on a PACER's Knicks preview that's gonna come out tomorrow morning. So lots of that kind of content coming out over the next couple of days. But Darvin Ham just got fired, and so what I want to do in this video is just break down the reasons why, because obviously it's a common thing that we

see from fan bases. The team starts to struggle and you start going after the head coach, right, it's kind of an easy target, not attached to the salary cap

in any way. So it's someone you can fire whenever you want, hire another coach, whenever you want their franchises out there paying two or three coaches at a time sometimes because of this type of turnover, right, And in this particular case, as you guys know, I'm generally not much of a coach critic, but in this particular case, I think the Lakers kind of had to do this. And so what I want to do is I want to break down the basketball reasons why Darvinham is not

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rest of the postseason. So to be clear upfront, Darvin Ham is not the reason why the Lakers lost to the Denver Nuggets. If there are a bunch of reasons, but if I had to kind of parse it down to one particular thing, they didn't have the personnel specifically to guard Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior. They had guys that were trying, Like Austin Reeves did a hell of a job, but he is a in terms of NBA two guards, he is a below average athlete, right, and so you're asking him to do a job that

physically is kind of beyond his capability. And so while he actually did play Jamal into some lower percentages, which was part of the team scheme, but also Austin did his job within the game plan, the bottom line was is at the end of games, in particular, they couldn't get stops on Jamal Murray and then Michael Porter Junior. Ruey Hatch Murra obviously by virtue of the roster imbalances,

was playing the three. And when you play the three and you have a movement shooter that's playing the three for the other team, you have to run around screens and you have to have a great amount of attentiveness to make sure that shooter doesn't get open. And Ruey Hachi Mura is a top heavy, big strong athlete that's not very laterally quick and is not good at navigating screens, and so throughout the entire series, the Michael Porter Junior

and Jamal Murray problem never went away. And so yeah, like, maybe if you have a better coach in there, maybe you'll lose in six instead of five. But the bottom line is, whenever it came down to crunch time, the Lakers could not guard Jamal Murray and could not guard Michael Porter Junior. Obviously, they struggled with Yokich too, That's to be expected, he's best player in the world. But other teams around the league can do a better job on those other two guys, and that was the main issue.

They played nine minutes of clutch time basketball, again within five points, within five minutes. They played nine minutes of clutch time basketball against Denver and allowed one hundred and sixty three points per one hundred possessions. That's not like, oh, they shot well, that's you can't guard them. It was a one to ninety three in the regular season, so it was even worse in the two clutch games they played in the regular season. Routinely, anytime Denver locked in.

They could score far more easily in the half court than the Lakers. That was the main difference. That's why you weren't beating them four straight times to get out of that series. Just in fourth quarters, the Nuggets outscored the Lakers by ten point three points per one hundred possessions. So Darvin is not the reason the Lakers lost to Denver.

They lost to Denver because of personnel shortcomings. That said, Darvin's first two years as an NBA head coach did not go well, and compared to his peers in the league, he is not a good NBA coach. So if you're serious about contending for a title, you have to move on from him. You can't go into a playoff series. Again, all these playoffs series, they're typically determined by pretty small margins.

The look at Nick Sixers, it was this close. Even in the Lakers Nuggets series, there were a bunch of games that hinged on a few possessions. Right, So, like, these margins are tight, and you don't want to go on to try to win four series in four series and you know, two months at a substantial coaching disadvantage. Now, before we get into the specifics with Darvin. I want to emphasize this is very different than the Frank Vogel situation.

I was listening to Colin Coward yesterday and he went on a rant that I mostly agreed with as it pertains to blaming the head coach when things go wrong. He was talking about the Charles Barkley bit that he did, talking about how the Lakers and Sons suck because of the players and not the coach. And I agree for the record, the Son's lost to the Timberwolves because of the players, and the Lakers lost to the Nuggets because

of the players. And it is true in terms of Collins, you know, take in the sense that like, yeah, coaches tend to be the scapegoat, and I definitely agree with that, But that is separate from the fact that Darvin is not a good NBA coach and he needed to go. So the Frank Vogel thing is a perfect example of this. Frank Vogel is a good NBA coach in my opinion, and I said this as I talked about him getting fired at the end of the season two years ago.

He's an excellent defensive strategist, so if you get him a high level offensive assistant, and you have that competent staff around him, you have a good coaching staff who knows what they're doing. He just struggles to get by in that's his problem. The Lakers completely tuned him out towards the end for whatever reason. It's the exact same thing that happened in Phoenix. You saw the hit piece. The Stars just don't listen to him for whatever reason.

So that is like a personality thing with Frank Vogel, right, And again I think that's a strong indicator his issues in Phoenix and his issue his issues in Los Angeles are basically the same, right, So Frank Vogel probably needs to coach a younger and more impressionable team right like that, so that he doesn't have to worry about some of the personality dynamics. So if you guys remember around that time, we had some other coaches around the league that were

having success. Right We had Ima Udoka in Boston who like came in as this like former NBA player who was like a Ford who could kind of look eyed I with these guys and he'd like talk shit to their face and talk shit to the press, and like it was very much like a a he held them accountable, right, And then we saw tylu as another former player, do similar things with the Clippers and the Cavs, right, And so there was this kind of like idea that Darvin

Ham was the next guy in that line, right. And the reasoning was, you know Lebron and Ad and these guys, they don't listen to Frank, So how about Darvin. Darvin can come in and be our emai Udoka And I think a lot of times when this kind of thing happens, when you're talking about a first time head coach, you don't really have a lot of evidence to go on in terms of what kind of coach he's going to be. That's the risk in hire, in hiring a first time

head coach. And by the way, that's something that there's if there's something to be critical of in terms of the Lakers and the Bucks hiring Adrian Griffin hiring Darvin Ham. There's a certain risk involved with hiring a first year head coach. But I understood the reasoning, they're not listening to Frank. You need to bring in somebody that can

really motivate them, right. I totally understood that. I think the part that we missed at that point was Darvin doesn't have the mean streak and the audacity that Emi Udoka had to really hold the guys accountable beyond like more benevolent motivational tactics, right, and so the first year, the urgency was immediately there by virtue of their predicament in the standings. They started two to ten, so there was immediate urgency. And then we had injuries to Lebron

and Ad that continued that urgency. They were fighting uphill all season. They actually overachieved last year relative to their talent level because Lebron and Ad were rarely available at the same time. They survived they got the seven seed their playoff run. I actually thought Darvin managed the Grizzlies series well. He shrunk the rotation to the right guys, He had a good game plan. Same in the Warriors series. He pivoted off of Ruey who was struggling to guard

klay Tom. He trusted Lonnie Walker. I thought that was a smart adjustment. Lonnie Walker actually won them a game in Game four. Nice adjustments in the Steph pick and roll problem and they won that chess match. Right now. In the Denver series, I thought he made some mistakes. He started Dennis Schroeder in three guards against Denver in Game one and they just got completely demolished on the glass.

That was a bad idea. He waited until game four to bench D'Angelo Russell, who clearly was out of it mentally, and to start Ruey Hachimura. Right, but it was like a weird situation because it was a deadline roster, right, Like they built the roster at the deadline, So everyone was willing to kind of cut Darvin some slack for what happened in the Denver series. Right. This season from the start has been an absolute disaster of mistakes. Immediately out the gates, Darvin like just lost trust in Ruy

Hachimura for whatever reason. Dead giveaway was in the first three games of the season, Ruy played just forty three minutes. Tori and Prince in the same span played ninety minutes in three games. Now, Ruey had just come off of an awesome playoff frount and had just signed a long term deal. He is on fifty one million dollars guaranteed. Torrian Prince was on the bi annual exception for four and a half million. He was signed to be a bench wing. I actually liked the Torrian signing. I thought

he made perfect sense as a bench wing. And there were some moments early in the season when Ruey got hurt and Jared was hurt where I was like, this makes sense. You're playing Torrian. You gotta do what you gotta do, right, But it was obvious that Ruey was a much bigger and better athlete who was a better player. Now, as we know, Ruey had a really rough series against the Nuggets this year, and Torrian actually was a more like a safer option for them, especially in a certain

portions of the game. But that's new information. We didn't know that at the time. Ruey was awesome in the playoffs last year, and no doubt Ruey over the eighty two is a much better basketball player right size and athleticism next to Lebron James and Anthony Davis. But for whatever reason, it got weird because even when Jared Vanderbilt came back, it seemed like Darvin trusted Cam Reddish more,

which is super bizarre. Jared Vanderbilt was one of the driving forces behind your Western Conference finals run and you had just signed him to a long term deal. Vanderbilt's on thirty nine million dollars guaranteed. Cam Reddish is a draft bust on his fourth team in five years. He's a bad NBA player. Max Christy, who's a second year guy, is just better than Cam Reddish on both ends of the floor. It made absolutely no sense, and so that ended up being the driving force, the primary driving force

behind the Lakers struggles in the regular season. Darvin didn't understand on a basic level who his good basketball players were on the roster, what was crazy and what hit it from everybody. The Lakers won the nd Season Tournament on the strength of Lebron James and Anthony Davis, who were both playing at a top five level at that point, kind of similar to what we saw in the Nuggets series this year. But as soon as Lebron and Ad relaxed a little bit after winning the Nason Tournament, the

issues in the rotation they rose to the surface. The Lakers went three to ten in their next thirteen games after the Ncason Tournament and dug themselves a massive hole in the standings in that span. These are crazy numbers. Tory and Prints and Cam Briddish in the three and ten stretch mind you, those guys combine for nine million dollars in guaranteed salary. They played fifty nine point two

minutes per game and attempted sixteen shots per game. Ruey Hatchamura and Jared Vanderbilt a combined ninety million dollars in salary guaranteed. We're playing just forty two point five minutes per game. D'Angelo Russell, who was clearly their third or fourth best player. He had the same amount of playing time as Cam Reddish, in the same amount of shot attempts per game as Toryan Prints explain that to me, it was like playing with one arm tied, like tied

behind your back for no reason at all. And again we saw Darvin's reasoning right. He leaked it to the press right after the Nuggets series. He goes, what do you expect me to do? I had a starter shitting the bed ten games in a row, and he's right, like Ruy and excuse me, Dlo and Austin in particular, especially through the first half of the season, they were really up and down and they struggled in a lot

of different ways. Why brand new offense and it's hard to win in the NBA when you have two skill guards in the back court, and it wasn't until the end of the season that Austin really embraced being that primary point of attack defender and doing it really well. Here's the problem. I'd get it if you had a really high level player behind him, Like let's say Gabe

Vincent was healthy, which he wasn't. But let's say Gabe Vincent was healthy, and you're like, man, getting a lot of struggles out of these two guys, I'm gonna bench d lo or Austin and I'm gonna play Gabe Vincent. Totally would get it. That's why you spent the money on Gabe Vincent this summer. But that's not what happened. He played Cam Reddish and torying Prince cam Reddish was starting all of that stretch. So, like, again, I get it.

If you were benching an Austin or a d Loo in favor of a high level player that you have in your rotation, that's not what was happening. You were playing a draft bust. You're starting a draft bust on his fourth team in five years, who is a bad NBA player. There was absolutely no case for it. Again, even if you wanted to play that type of player. It made more sense to play Max Christy or to slide Tornying Prince to the two and to play Ruy Hachamurre at the three. It was it was unconscionable at

the time. This is actually a crazy stat to kind of demonstrate this. In February, after relentless pressure from Lakers fans and media and the front office, Darbenham finally starts leaning into Ruiy. Before February, Ruy played just twenty two point eight minutes per game. Torrian played thirty minutes per game and basically started the whole time. The Lakers were twenty four and twenty five. After February first, Ruey played.

Ruey played thirty one point one minutes per game, and Torreon went down to twenty two minutes per game and he prim primarily played against bench players. Ruey started all games except for the February first game, and the Lakers go twenty three to ten, have the fifth best record in the NBA in the third best offense in basketball. That's what happened when Darvin finally started playing his better players.

Darvin's not responsible for the Lakers losing to Denver, but He is responsible for them having to play Denver in the first round because he handcuffed his best players and he overused bench journeyman. The strength of the roster was abundantly clear early on in the season. It was size

and athleticism in the front court. All of their lineup data early in the season was showing Lebron and Ad with a bigger player like a Jared Vanderbilt or Ruey Hatchamura really successful, or like a Christian Wood for instance, when he was healthy in the early part of the season, whenever they went big, they had success. When they played Torrian Prince at the three next to Lebron and Ad, it was a huge problem in the early part of the season that the numbers were clear, But like that

was the main issue. Darvin thought the strength of the roster was on the perimeter, when actually it was on the front line. Even in Game four against Nver this year, I thought it was interesting Darvin benched Jackson Hayes and leaned into a bunch of three guard lineups. That tells

you what he thought of this roster. And that goes back to one of my biggest beefs with an NBA coach, with any coach at any level, if you inflict your ideology on your roster rather than building an ideology around the strengths of your roster, that's where you go off the rails. That's why Darvin trusted Torrian and Cam so much. He believes in perimeter speed and ball pressure and he

saw them as the path. But what he missed is Cam is a bad NBA player and Torrian Prince is a bench player, so they were underqualified for what he actually needed from them. And I understand the roster in balance, like when you build a roster around two skill guards, you're gonna run into some issues. That's why all season

long I was talking about a D'Angelo Russell trade. But even when it was even when it was talked about in terms of benching one of the guards, which at the time I understood at the early part of the season, the problem was going to Cam and going to him in such big minutes. Like I get it if you played him for like the first shift and then pulled him and then had one of the skill guards on the court with a better athlete the rest of the game, that's one thing, But like leaning into him as much

as you did, especially as a starter. Didn't make any sense to me, and there were better options on the roster. Cam was like your twelfth best player and he was one of your most utilized players during the majority of the season. It made no sense. And the reality is they didn't make a trade, right We were expecting them to make a trade to address that issue. They did not.

But once they didn't make a trade, we knew what the actual strength of the roster was defensive skill, frontline size, and then as soon as Darvin lean into that, they immediately took off and started winning. The second big thing that I want to hit on, and this is probably the biggest one, and this is the one that Darvin's going to have to address moving forward if he wants to have success at the NBA level in the future. Active versus passive coaching. So the other big knack I had.

Darvin was far too willing to just sit back and watch the team make mistakes. On the sideline. He would often take a passive role where he basically just stand and watch, and then during the timeouts he would just yell meaningless platitudes, motivational platitudes about effort to the team. And so as a result, the Lakers took on an unseerious attitude in terms of their possession by possession focus.

That lack of urgency started from the head coach. They'd have a bad game where they'd get sloppy, they'd play bad basketball for a half dozen or a dozen possessions in a row, and they toast a game off, or they'd lose control of a game. And then afterwards, darvinham would go to the press and he'd be like, it's a marathon, not a sprint. We're gonna be all right, this is a long journey. No it's not. It was

a huge deal. That unseerious attitude and lack of attention to detail ended up being the biggest thing that hurt them against Denver. Two runs killed them in Game one. It was like a it was either a ten oh and a thirteen. It was a ten oh and a thirteen oh. One of them was in the second quarter, one was in the thirteen the third quarter. I can't remember exactly which one was which, but two massive deadly runs.

And in those runs, they played unseerious basketball, not running their offense, turning the basketball over, not running back in transition, picked sixes like it was they were toasting the game off in a matter of minutes. One of the runs, the ten oh run, was like less than two minutes. The thirteen to oh run was like three and a half minutes. It happened so fast, and you completely lose control of the game in that span that was allowed all season long. In Game two, you blow a twenty

point lead at the end of the third quarter. Spencer Dinwoodie hijacking possessions and trying to drive and finish on Peyton Watson. One of the best shot blocking bench players in the league, Torrian Prince. He made a step back three in a late clock situation as a rescue possession. A few possessions later, he took another one early in the shot clock. That doesn't happen on other teams, serious basketball teams. They don't have players that go off script,

go outside of their role in freelance. That doesn't happen. You don't see that with Denver. You don't see Christian Brown just go like fuck it, I'm taking a pull up three here. That doesn't happen. That is a Laker specific problem. Even the Gordon on Ad adjustment. This is less about active coaching and more about just missing what's happening on the court. So KCP is a perimeter player who's chasing Lebron around screens. Now AD can't shoot. Aaron

Gordan's on the back line because Aaron Gordon's guarding AD. Now, so Lebron starts bringing Jokich up to ball screens, and immediately it's clear that Gordon's bothering Lebron at the rim and Lebron's struggling to finish. Instead of adjusting and attacking in a different way, like I don't know, have Lebron James post up KCP instead of trying to attack him from the perimeter. Have Anthony Davis post up Aaron Gordon,

he had made fourteen straight shots earlier in the game. Instead, they had a bad approach and they cut the lead from twenty to eleven, which led into that fourth quarter run. That was an example of failing to identify something that was happening on the court as it was happening. In Game three, Lebron just chilling on the back line in a must win game. He was the reason why Aaron Gordon got going in that game. Tylu in Game seven of the NBA Finals was ripping Lebron a new one

at halftime because he wasn't bringing enough urgency. Darvin let it slide all season, never held those guys accountable. In Game five, that third quarter run, it was so clear as the Lakers went up sixty nine to sixty, it was clear that Lebron was getting tired, the execution was dipping, the Nuggets were taking control. We were all begging for a time out in the middle of that run. No timeout was called until the Nuggets had literally turned that

nine point deficit into a three point lead. That was when Darvin finally relented. And at that point it was so damn close to the end of the fourth quarter. It was almost worthless end of the third quarter that like Ruyan Michael Porter Junior, at the end of the game.

It was like a little over five minutes left in Game five, the Lakers were up by two and Ruy just literally took a possession off, was not paying attention and Michael Porter Junior just ran off of a simple screen and caught a wide open three and knocked it down. That is the type of lack of attention to detail on a possession by possession basis that was freely allowed by Darvin all year long because he sat on the sidelines with his hands in his pockets instead of actively

coaching his team. Juxtapose that with Mike Malone. That's active coaching. He's up and yelling at players the whole game. Bad basketball is simply not allowed. If he saw two or three bad possessions in a row, he was on their ass immediately about it. What happened after Game four, he went to the press conference and was like, we are doing a terrible job of protecting the paint. We have

to do better. He was getting on the players. That's the sense of the sense of accountability that you breed from day one of training camp all the way through to the end of the season. And so as a result, you don't see random players for Denver, leaving the scope of their role to hijack possessions. You don't see laps as an execution that lasts more than a possession or two between before Mike Malone has a meltdown. Championship teams always have approached the season with urgency from day one.

It's never been a team in NBA history except for a defending champion that chilled through the regular season. It's a marathon, not a sprint, and work their way up from a lower seed through a playoff run to win the title. It has literally never happened. If the Lakers would have done it, it would have been the first time. Only defending champions have had that type of leeway. The team that wins almost always dominates from day one. There

is an attention to detail. There's a level of urgency that never waivers over the eighty two They go two or three bad games and they get together and like, we got to figure this shit out. The Lakers have won a title with Lebron James and Anthony Davis. You want to know how they started that season twenty four and three. Twenty four and three, there was no marathon, not a sprint. It was like, no, this is not okay.

We have to get this figured out right now. That is the level of accountability that active coaching provides that passive coaching does not provide. Even in Game two, I put this in my notes and I was irritated, just like not being on top of it enough to challenge that Jamal Murray bump in the final minute that tied the game. Literally you identified at the beginning of that series. Wait, everything's allowed. Mike Malone and his staff were on top

of that. Anybody if their man fouled the guy and they were looking at the ipop pat and they were like, oh, yeah, he raked him across the face. Challenge it marginal contact. Delo got punched in the face on a layup and Mike Malone challenged it and got it overturned. It was obvious that if you challenged a call with some marginal contact,

you were gonna get away with it. And there was a huge bump foul and the final minute of Game two where Jamal Murray went to the line and tied the game at the foul line, and everyone's screaming for a challenge and Darvin just sat there and let it laps.

He's he has again. If Darvin's gonna get another chance someday, there has to be a more active approach to coaching on a possession by possession basis throughout the regular season, not just holding his players accountable, but doing his job as a staff to take advantage of every advantage available. I think he left that game with two timeouts and

a challenge. You couldn't. It doesn't transfer over to Game four or to Game three, and so I thought, honestly, I honestly thought that that series was just a really interesting juxtaposition and the difference between the two coaching styles, and it just kind of shine a big light on it. Right. So, to make a long story short, Darvin isn't the reason

you lost to Denver. But to proceed with Darvin is to proceed with a coaching disadvantage, and playoff series are determined by the slightest of margins, So firing Darvin and hiring a more competent coach improves your chances to win the title. End of story. So moving on. I don't love any of the establishment guys except for Kenny Atkinson. He's the one guy I like. But he has a similar issue to Frank Vogel in the sense that he's in the past struggle to get buy in from older veterans.

That's famously what happened in twenty twenty. The NETS guys just kind of tuned him out and basically punted him from the locker room. But I do think he's a good coach. Tylou would be ideal. He has an excellent feel for what works in modern basketball on both ends of the floor. Spacing concepts. He's big on matchup, attacking, big on ball pressure, and physicality on the defensive end of the floor. He would definitely get buy in from the Stars. But I just don't see universe where Balmer

lets him go. I think Tyler's one of the five best coaches in the league, so like if I'm Steve Balmer, I'm clearly aware of that. So even if I did punt and move on from the Kawhi Paul George James harden Era, I want Tylu as my coach. So I just doubt they give him up. But if they do for whatever reason, if Tyler works out some sort of deal with Balmber where he walks away from the last year of his deal and the Lakers can get him,

that would literally be a home run. Could not do better than that, right, JJ Reddick, This is an interesting idea. JJ's a really smart basket said this before in the show. I think he's the best at what I do for a living in terms of analyzing basketball games. Obviously we see him do so many interviews, but if you actually watch him break games down, not just in the broadcast booth, but also also when he does when he actually does sit down and like do playoff series breakdowns and starts

talking about adjustments. Super smart basketball mind. I think he particularly has a great feel for offensive concepts, which I think would be useful on a team like this that runs five out and has a lot offensive skill. You could also kind of see it as a collaborative kind of thing with Lebron, where Lebron is like kind of pseudo operating as like a de facto member of the staff, like an assistant basically, then you bring in experienced assistants,

especially to help on the defensive side of things. So I kind of like that's an interesting idea, But another first time head coach comes with a certain amount of risk, right, and this is a season with a great amount of urgency, could very well be the last season Lebron plays at a superstar level with his age, So I kind of lean towards the guy like a Kenny Atkinson who has a certain high floor. But that has risk as well

if you can't get the guys to buy in. But at least if the season takes a turn for the worst, next year probably wouldn't have anything to do with Kenny Atkinson. It would probably have more to do with personnel. Right, Like, here's the bottom line. Lebron and ad can carry you

home in the playoffs. They've shown that they're two top ten playoff players by like for sure, right, that goes without saying, but you do need some marginal improvements on the roster and you need a baseline level of competence at the head coach position that Darvinges did not provide, and so that's where they have to go from here. So like Tyler would be by number one, i'd probably go Kenny Atkinson two, and then I would take JJ

over any of the other establishment guys. And then I don't think you can get some young hot shot assistant type of thing in there, because it's the same kind of deal where you're gonna have trouble getting the stars to buy in. But again, my order of operations would be TYLERU, Kenny Atkinson than JJ Reddick. All right, guys, that is all I have for today in this particular video. I'm gonna be back in a little bit with some film on the on the Nuggets Timberwolve series. I'll see

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