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Hoops Tonight - Celtics-Warriors NBA Finals: Steph Curry, Draymond & Dubs dismantle Boston in Game 2

Jun 07, 202232 min
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Jason Timpf reacts to Steph Curry, Draymond Green, and the Warriors' Game 2 victory over Jayson Tatum and the Celtics in the NBA Finals.

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welcome to Hoops tonight present. If I fandel here at the volume, Happy Monday, everybody. I hope all of you had a fantastic weekend, if for whatever reason you missed it. Last night, after the final buzzer, I went live with Colin Coward for about a half hour and we got into a bunch of details from this particular series. We also touched on some Utah jazz in wake of the Quinn Snyder firing, and we also got to a little

bit of Lakers. So if for whatever reason you missed that, you can find it on the Volumes YouTube channel as well as on the Calling Cowhard podcast feed. A couple of other quick notes before we get started, remember to

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So I've really appreciated in this NBA Finals series having the opportunity to do my show in the off days. And obviously we'll probably end up having some games in this series where we go right after a game. But what I appreciate about the doing it on the off days is I really have an opportunity to go over the film with a fine toothed comp I enjoy doing the instant reaction breakdowns for you guys, and obviously that's gonna consistently be a big part of what we do

here at this show and at this company. But at the same time, you miss some stuff in the first view. You might have a wrong impression in your first view of a game, and it's nice to have the opportunity to go back over the film because you just learned so much more that way. And I'm really really excited to share with you guys all this stuff that I learned from my film session this morning. I want to start with a macro topic, kind of like what I

did with Game one and Game one. If you guys remember, I talked a lot about Boston's perimeter size, the fact that with the combination of Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum and Marcus Smart. They're just so big and strong and athletic on the perimeter that it gives them some significant mismatches over the Golden State perimeter players. As a result, they were getting amazing dribble penetration. And dribble penetration is vitally important to this Boston team because they're at their

best when they're driving and kicking. I've talked a lot about this on the show UH in the last couple of months, but Boston's best line up without Orford at the five, with Tatum and Brown, and with Derek White and Marcus Smart, they have five players that can all shoot, pass, and dribble. You know, al Horford is not the best guy to put the ball on the floor and dribble, but he can do it pretty well compared to most bigs. And then all four of those perimeter players are pretty

damn good at all three of those things. And so when you get the five of them together and they're all driving and kicking and passing and shooting, they get fantastic shots. But that initial dribble penetration is vitally important. Why because guys like Marcus smart and Al Horford and Derek White are not great at getting dribble penetration against a set defense, but if you can get them attacking closeouts,

they're really good at extending that advantage. But there's a lot of responsibility on Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown to create that initial bit of dribble penetration to get the defense to collapse so that everything else can work for Boston. In Game two, Golden State completely rectified at drivel penetration issue, and they did it with two things, and both of them I thought were really smart, And both of them came down to Steve Kurt and a couple of really

really smart adjustments. The first one was one that was kind of, uh, one of the I kind of expected to see at some point in the series. If you guys remember I talked about how I really liked Wiggins on Tatum, and Wiggins through two games has done an excellent job guarding Tatum, big shock. He did an excellent

job guarding Luca, so you could expect that. But what I was worried about was the other matchup Jalen Brown, because you want to keep Draymond Green in help right like they did in game one, Draymond Green basically ignored al Horford and was roaming around on the inside helping

on everything else. They did a good job there, but as a result, Al Horford got all those open threes and that was going to be an issue, right So I was concerned about whether or not Golden State would be willing to risk switching Draymond Green out to Jalen Brown, because if you switch him out to Jalen Brown, it's harder for him to help because he's gonna be guarding at the point of attack so much more. But help is a lot less necessary if there isn't as much

drible penetration. And so the move from cur and Draymond to switch Draymond off of Horford and put him onto Jalen Brown completely change the dynamic of this series because Wiggins is already doing a good job with Tatum, but Jalen Brown getting his dribble penetration taken away by Draymond completely changed that driving kick dynamic that Boston kept trying to get into. I tweeted out today and you can

find it on my Twitter feed. Two screenshots from the shot charts on on the ESPN at and if you look at the one on the left, it's Jalen Brown shot chart in game one. If you look on the one on the right, it's Jalon Brown shot charting game two. The only difference there being Draymond Green is the primary defender in game two, and obviously the visual representation is incredibly jarring how frequently Jalen Brown was getting into the paint. So go look at that if you want to see

the visual representation. But here's some numbers. In game one, Jalen Brown attempted eleven total shots in the paint and three in the restricted area. That's pretty damn good against the great Golden State defense. That helps a ton in the paint. In game two, only four attempts in the

painted area and zero in the restricted area. That's how much that changed the dynamic of Boston's offense or without Jalen Brown able to get that initial dribble penetration, and with the job that Wiggins was doing on Tatum, it changed that dynamic a lot. But it wasn't just Draymond.

It was a lot of guys. Steph steph uh. Step has always been underrated as a defensive player, but he did a really nice job with his contain on Derek White Andrew Wiggins, like I just said, did a great job in Tatum, and there were a lot of possessions

where Gary Payton Jr. Was on Al Horford. And because Gary Payton Jr. Plays so much bigger than he is, and because Al Horford's not a great hasn't demonstrated to be much of a post up threat in this series, which we'll get to in a minute, they were able to switch Gary Payton onto a lot of those balls screens and contain things there. And most importantly, and this was the second adjustment from Kurr at halftime for the first half, and I said this on last night's show

with Colin. For the first three halves of the series, Boston was the more physical team and they weren't dominant, but I thought I thought Boston demonstrated to be slightly better than Golden State in terms of their two way ability through the first three halves of this series. But it was because Golden State wasn't matching the physicality of Boston in that third quarter last night, and I would imagine this was an adjustment from Kerr. Golden State came

out and made it a blood bath. Physically, and that, in combination with what Draymond Green was doing to Jaln Brown, completely shut down Boston's offense. How did it manifest well? In game one, the Celtics had thirty three assists game two. In game one, the Celtics only had thirteen turnovers. In game two nineteen, that was nineteen turnovers led to thirty three points for Golden State getting out in transition, which

we'll get to here in a minute. They the Celtics generated twenty three wide open threes in game one, in game two only thirteen, so as you can see, containing that dribble penetration from Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum and from Derek White and Marcus Smart. Again, this is a team effort from Golden State. Prevented Golden State from having to get into rotation is often often which took away from Boston's ability to drive and kick to open shooters,

and it completely stunted Boston's offense. So huge credit to Steve Kerr, Huge credit to Draymond Green. What a weapon to have in your arsenal, A big man that you can switch out onto a wing, one of the better slashing wings that we have in the league and completely shut him down. And a huge part of that was just understanding the physicality. This is the NBA Finals. You're allowed to get away with so much. I was joking

with cal Hm last night. There was a play with Draymond guarding Jalen Brown right in the middle of the floor. Jalen Brown ended up taking a turnover over turn, a turnaround jump shot over his left shoulder and he bricked it. And they will go back to the replay. Jeff and Gundhy's like complimenting Draymond on his defense, and I'm watching the video and I'm like, man, Draymond fouled him like six times on that play. But I don't have any

problem with it because everyone's fouling. Boston's foulon too. If this is a series where everyone is fouling, and I think Steve Kerr understood, especially as the team had a disadvantage. Subconsciously with referees, they will always let the team with the disadvantage get away with more. It's a subconscious thing. I don't believe in rigged playoff series or anything like that. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I do think human nature comes into play in situations like this, referees they

can't help themselves. They're going to favor the underdog. Not that Golden States the underdog, but they were down one oh in the series. Is it's a natural way things go, and capitalizing on that leeway to be the more physical team was just a really really smart play from Golden State, and it would be really really smart for Boston to try to do the same thing in Game three. I

want to talk about Boston's offense for a minute. So in the first quarter, Jayson Tatum and Jalen Brown had twenty six points on eight of fifteen from the field, six of eight from three, and the rest of the game they only had nineteen points on five for twenty one from the field and three for ten from three. This is the huge difference between process and results. You know that that whole Joel Embi things, trust the process.

The whole idea there is like, hey, we're not getting results on the court, we're taken, but there's something we're building here. We're accumulating talent to make a run. Right, that's the idea. Your your process is always more important than the results because results can carry you in the short term, right, Wild results that go one way or

the other. But if you're playing seven games against the team, if you're playing almost three fifty minutes of basketball, it's gonna be the team with the better process that has the advantage because the small sample size variation isn't in your favor anymore. There's you have to have many hot streaks, not just one hot streak. And when I was watching the tape again, twenty six points eight or fifteen shooting six of eight from three for Tatum and Brown in

the first quarter. They were great shots. Jalen Brown's first two shots that he made were a random contested pull up three over the top of of Draymond Green on the left wing, and then a transition pull up three like from twenty six ft on the left wing, both early in the shot clock, no attempt to create any advantage,

just dribble up and shoot and they went in. That's awesome, And Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are really talented players, and they're gonna have moments where they make plays like that, but it's not good process. I tweeted out of video, you can find it on my Twitter feed where I clipped out like nine or ten possessions from that first quarter that demonstrate exactly what I'm talking about. This has been the story of Boston throughout this entire season, and

especially in this playoff run. They go through stretches where their offensive decision making makes absolutely no sense. I can't tell you how many times in that video you'll see Jayson Tatum or Jalen Brown just dribble up the floor and shoot or drive into the lane and see Golden State collapsed at the basket with easy kickout opportunities to wide open shooters and just force things around the basket. Boston was twelve thirty from inside the paint last night.

That's hard to do. That means you're jacking up shots over heavy contests in the paint when the whole point of your offense is driving kick to get open shots. This team to frequently lose his sight of of of who they are. But this is the this is the problem with not having a point guard. There was a sequence there in the second half that I thought, uh or in the first half, second quarter that perfectly encapsulated what I was talking what I'm talking about right now.

So Tatum runs in action, I believe with a Horford the top of the key and gets Tamanubi Elites on a switch on the left wing Flora's space. Pritchard's in the left corner. So good shooter, He's got the Elites on it. Take him to the rim. He can't guard you. He doesn't play for the most part for this team because he can't guard. And he sure as hell can't

guard you Tatum. But all he did was kind of randomly throw a left to right crossover that accomplished nothing and then swing the ball to Derek right and the possession was effectively over. Derek White ended up having to throw some garbage up. Then they go down and they get a stop, and Tatum comes down on very next possession after getting a stop and just Jack's up an early clock contested pull up three over Andrew Wiggins and he makes it. But again it's like, that's bad process.

You had a great mismatch opportunity against Golden State's worst defender and you didn't even attempt to attack it. Then on the next possession you dribbled up the floor and shot a pull up contested three over their best perimeter defender, Like, well, what is the process there? I don't understand now. In results. That's three points and two possessions. That's a hundred and fifty offensive rating. That's great in the smalle sample size.

It worked out for you, but that's bad process. The team offense for Boston for the entirety of the game was horrible. I talked about this last night with Colin, but I thought Tatum's game in Game one was better, even though he didn't shoot nearly as well, because he was getting consistent gerbral penetray ration and as a result, he had thirteen assists. Okay, great, you turned it on as a scorer a little bit in this game. You hunted your pull up jump shot a lot. You made

six out of nine threes. You made some tough fade away jumpers. That's great. They all were pretty Boston. Your team offense combusted. So it's not about Tatum scoring. It's about your team offense. And within this team offense, it's vitally important for Jason Tatum to create dribble penetration. You know, especially with this adjustment putting Draymond Green onto Jalen Brown, I don't know that you can count on Jalen Brown anymore to create that initial advantage. They're letting Draymond play

defense with his hands. He's very very good as a physical defender. When he's allowed to be physical. Jalen Brown is not gonna get triple penetration. You might need to have him be your second side creator. You might need to have Jalen Brown attacking clothes outs. You need to

get Draymond Green into hell help. And the only way to do that is for Tatum now to be that initial creator, and they might have to mix it up even further, might have to be a little bit more Derek White, Like, look at Derek White and be like, hey man, I need you just to put your head down and try to beat Steph off the dribble, try to get that initial penetration, try to engage Draymond Green

and help. The other thing, too, is they've got to figure out, so what do you what's the natural progression here? If Draymond is guarding Jalen Brown, what's the other matchup

that that creates? So if Draymond, a big man for Golden State, has to go out to the perimeter to shut down a perimeter player for Boston, now Clay Thompson, who was guarding Jalen Brown, has to guard al Horford, and I thought it was kind of smart because they just had Clay Thompson hug up on Al Horford didn't help as a result, Al Horford at zero three point attempts because you just wantn't open because they're basically playing four on four with Clay Thompson for the most part

out of the play just hugged up to Al Horford. But what's the counter there? Are you gonna let Klay Thompson just guard Al Horford? Apparently yes, because they only had one post up for Horford on Clay Thompson in the entire game. I tweeted out the link, you can find it on my Twitter feed. And on that play, Al Horford drew a double team from Daymond Green because guess what, they don't want Klay Thompson on the island

gets Horford, It's not gonna go well. And Horford didn't see the double team coming ended up smoking a layup over the top. But the point is is that is the matchup you have to attack. Then if Golden State is going to concede a physical advantage to take away one of your physical advantages, you have to attack them

on the other front. So in Game three, I hope to see a lot for Boston's sake, I hope to see a lot more Al Horford posting up on Clay Thompson, forcing those double teams, which is another great way to get in your driving kick Al Horford post up, Here comes the second defender, kick out to Jalen Brown or whoever it is. Horford reloc kates to the corner. You're back in your five out. Now we're driving and kicking again.

It's an easy way to counter that. They just need to get back to the style of offense they played in Game one, which is slashing and driving and kicking. And the only way they're gonna do that is if they figure out how to get that initial advantage and if Tatum it's gotta it's gotta be Tatum, but you also need to get it from one more place. It needs to be either Derek White slashing or those Al Horford post ups. All right, let's move on to Golden

State on offense. So I thought the most obvious adjustment from Golden State in Game two was to avoid the half court at all costs. I said I talked about before the series. You know, I think Golden State has more offensive talent overall, then Boston, I think that goes without saying stuff, is by far the best offensive player in the series. And then you've got Jordan Poole, you got Clay Thompson and Guy Andrew Wiggins. They've got a

ton of offensive talent on this roster. They got lots of shooting, right, But in the half court, when Boston, who's the bigger team is especially on the perimeter, is allowed to be physical, they can make up that offensive gap. And if that's manifested throughout this series. In the half court, so far through two games, Boston has a ninety seven point four offensive rating. Golden State is a point six offensive rating. That's basically a wash. We're talking about one

point there, right. So the game plays out in a half court, it could go either way. But in transition I've been on this this entire playoff front, Boston is a terrible transition defense team. There. Guys constantly fall down when they drive to the basket searching for calls. In general against Golden States physicality last night, any time they were getting hacked, they were more concerned with just raking their arms out trying to draw fouls than being physically

strong with the basketball. They were turning to the basketball over complaining to the refs and jogging back on defense. They did that against Miami, they did it against Brooklyn, and they did it against Milwaukee. They were going to do it against Golden State and they did. As a result, Golden State, who's a good transition defense, held Boston so far through two games to an eight eight point five

offensive rating on transition opportunities. That's insane u transition defense from Golden State, especially for a team as athletic as Boston. Golden State in comparison, is scoring a hundred and nine point seven points per transition opportunity in the series. That's where the dynamic is right and we've seen this with Boston before in previous series. Is but in the half court, this series is kind of a wash, and Boston has some advantages there and they very well may win this

series if it stays in the half court. But if Golden State can persistently continue to push the ball up the floor like they have through two games, they're gonna win because they are a much better transition team and that's where they have their advantage. They forced Boston into nineteen turnovers with their physicality. Those live ball turnovers do such an amazing job of compromising their defense as they're trying to get back and gives you the opportunity to

get out and score easy baskets. Golden skate. Golden State scored thirty three points on Boston turnovers last night. Imagine in an NBA Finals game, an absolute rock fight, where you're struggling to get to a hundred points. How nice it is when you can get a third of your offense by running out for open shots and layups. That's the advantage of pushing the ball in transition now in order. Like we talked about earlier, I talked the whole beginning

of the show. We talked about Golden States perimeter defense, the way they contained dribble penetration, in the way that forced turnovers and through Boston's offense out of whack. In order to score and transition, you absolutely must get a lot of stops and force a lot of turnovers. And that's what Golden State did last night. That was a huge advantage to them, unlocking the offensive bursts that they had.

The other vitally important element to Golden State's offense that finally went their way there in that second half last night was they got some secondary creation. Jordan Poole finally

got going. For those of you guys who follow me on Twitter, I was talking about during the first half that through three halves, Boston looked like the slightly better team, and a huge part of that was the fact that if you were ranking offensive players in this series through three halves, you would have ranked Steph one, and you probably would have named three or four Celtics before you got to another Warrior because you were you weren't getting

anything from Jordan Pool and you weren't getting anything from Clay Thompson. That initial that initial advantage creation, like I talked about for Boston, the job that Jason Tatum has to get into the paint, or if they can't get it from Jalen Brown having to do the Al Horford post ups or more Derek White drives. That's all about creating that initial advantage. And you can't just get it

from one guy. It's just too much to ask, right, And so it was gonna be vitally important for Golden State to take control of the series to have one of those guys, either Clay Thompson or Jordan Pool or Andrew Wiggins get going offensively. Now, I don't think Andrew Wiggins is going to get going offensive to too much of an extent here in terms of it. As an initiator, he'll score attacking closeouts and knocking down threes as part

of Golden State system. But against this really good Boston defense, I don't think you can just throw Wiggins the ball. Same thing goes for Clay, Like Clay has taken all the same crazy wild Clay shots that he always takes, but he's not getting open shots. I don't see a version of this series where Clay consistently gets going because his shot quality isn't good enough. It's kind of goes

back to that process results thing we were talking about. Yes, the results aren't good, but the problem, I mean, it's not a process issue. It's just a limitation at this phase of his career, and against this great of a Boston defense, he's struggling to create looks. So it turns out it's got to be Jordan Poole, and it was I talked about in my series preview. There was a game this year with Jordan Pool scored twenty nine points

against Boston. It was a blowout but he showed the ability to score against that Boston defense, and so coming in to this series, I figured Jordan Pool would have to be this guy. And I know there's defensive limitations there and they're gonna have to figure out ways to do that. Like I I think the easy way is playing alongside uh Draymond Green and Kevan Luney. That's where they have enough interior size and physicality to compensate for a lack of perimeter size and physicality. So maybe that's

what they have to do. But the more Jordan Pool, the better, because getting Jordan Pool going is what allows them to have that second initial creation so that they can keep their Golden State basketball working, which is always very similar to Boston. It starts with Steph or Jordan Pool dragging multiple defenders and then the rest of the guys playing Warriors basketball in the back end. So it's

good to see Pool get going last night. He's going to have to be consistently good in this series for Golden State to win, which I think absolutely is possible. Like I said, the Clay thing, the Wiggans thing, I don't know what you're gonna get from them, but Pool is absolutely up to the challenge and they need him to be great in order to win it. One last

night on gold One last note on Golden State. On offense, Steph Curry, who has been wrongfully maligned as a bad playoff player by nefarious characters in the basketball community, is on his way to an absolutely amazing NBA Finals right now. Through two games, he's averaging thirty two six and five on six tru shooting, and he's plus fifteen overall. He's been the best player in this series by mile. And it's only been two games and there's a lot of

basketball left to be played. But Steph has been better against this Boston defense than either of Jimmy Butler or Janice or KD. And again, like obviously they're different teams than Dynamics are different. They were able to load up on Janice in a way that they can't with Steph. But my point is is Steph is playing fantastic basketball and the scoring efficiently as wild some of its scheming.

Boston continue used to drop the two massive threes that Step hitting the third quarter that kind of ice the game, one in the middle of the floor and one on the right wing that was deep. Both were against drop coverage, So some of it is him capitalizing on Boston's coverage, but that's to his credit, and he's been an absolute monster in this series. He if they win, he's absolutely gonna be Finals MVP, and he's absolutely gonna deserve it.

And I hope eventually everyone erases whatever it is their weirdo misconceptions about who step is as a playoff performer, because the dude just continues to be incredibly dominant at this level, always has been incredibly dominant at this level, and I just I just don't understand why he doesn't get that credit. So instammation before we get out of here today, a couple of quick rundown of adjustments. So for Boston, they have to clean up their offensive process.

That was their biggest mistake in Game two. They have to continue to generate rim rim pressure, or draw double teams from Al Horford post ups, whatever it is they have to do. They got to get that first compromising of the defense that gets them to collapse so that they can get their driving kick aim going. Secondly, get back in transition. Stop flopping, stop complaining at the officials,

stop jogging, get back. You're too athletic of a team to be this bad in transition defense, that's something they have to rectify in Golden State is going to actively hunt those opportunities. Take care of the basketball. Live ball turnovers are another easy way to get gold State going in transition. That's just decision making. I thought a huge part of that was the physicality. When Golden State came with the physicality, Boston wilted. They didn't fight through it.

They didn't take care of the basketball. They turn it over away too much and it killed them. Post up Al Horford more, if they're going to put Draymond Green on Jalen Brown and put Clay Thompson on Al Horford, you have to punish them for doing that. And if you do so, they will force Draymond back into that matchup with with Horford, which will allow Jalen Brown to have a better matchup. That is the the easy counter there. They have to take advantage of that. Also, put Brown

on the second side. Don't let him try to drive by Draymond. He's not going to be able to Draymond too good of a defense player in this series is too physical. But if you put Tatum or whoever, or Horford or whatever it is you're gonna do to create that initial advantage. Have that on the first side. Get Draymond to come over to help. Now you're kicking to Jalen Brown, he has an opportunity to attack a close out.

That's when his athleticism is gonna be most useful. With the way the matchups are playing out at this point, at least until you can get Draymond off of Jalen Brown. For Golden State, so far Kevon Looney and Draymond Green in twenty nine minutes, the series are plus nineteen and there negative outside of those minutes, so that's clearly been your best opportunity. We talked a lot about Boston's perimeter size. The best way for Golden State to fight Boston's perimeter

sizes to play big. Obviously, it hurts them on the offensive end, but there's so much better defensively there that it's actually working out as a net positive for them. Again, plus nineteen and twenty nine minutes, I think it's like a plus thirty net rating per one hunter possessions, which is amazing. That's also a great group that you can pair with Jordan Poole, who you desperately need for offense. And allow yourself to make up for some of his

offensive shortcomings. The other thing too, if they start posting Horford on Clay, just put Clay onto the Clay onto Rob Williams. Rob Williams is not a post player. You can have the same impact there. Let Looney bang with Horford and take away those post ups. Now they're really in a bind because how do you put Now You're asking Rob Williams basically to punish Clay as an offensive rebounder, which he hasn't done much of an uh to this point.

And then, last, but not least, continue to bring the physicality. If you allow Boston to be the more physical team, you will lose the series because they are the bigger, stronger team. But if, like in the second half of Game two, if you win the physicality battle, you're also the more skilled team. And if the more skilled team also wins the physicality battle, they will dominate the series. So keep bringing that physicality and you'll continue to have

that advantage. All right, That is all I have for today. I'm not sure what the plan is for Game three yet, but I'll let you guys know as soon as I know. No matter what, we will have something right after the final buzzer of A three on Wednesday night. As always, I sincerely appreciate you guys supporting me, supporting the network, and supporting the show. And I'll see you guys in a couple of days. The volume

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