Episode 60: Lakers/Suns Game 6 Postgame Show

talked about it. We needed to get off to a fast start tonight, and that just that just didn't happen. Um, the scoring wasn't there. Lebron still wasn't able to kind of get to the rim the way he wanted to, the way I thought he would. He should have. Um, if if the Laker is gonna be any time successful, they packed the paint, they dared the Lakers to shoot it. The Lakers made that starting lineup changed, but gasoul Um put the Salt into the starting lineup and it gave

him some spacing. But we still just couldn't hit shots. Man k CP still couldn't hit his shots until like the third quarter where we kind of made that run was a little too late. Um, house crew so as well. Um, he came in his his s thought, wasn't there. Dennis Shrewder had another super slow start this game. He didn't pick it up too late. Um, just going with my notes, he rout down twenty seven and the third man and

and this Son's team is good. I want to give them credit, um first and foremost, Like that's a legitimately good team. I never thought this series was something that was gonna be over in like five games, even when we were healthy. Um, there are people saying like the Lakers were gonna We're gonna beat them in five games. I always thought this was a legitimately really good team. You don't win as many games as they did without without being this good. And they're legit. They're well coached.

They knew exactly what their game plan was and they executed it. Chris Paul Devin Booker are held to defend for a series. They make you go through a bunch of different adjustments. Um, they come off screen and roll. They know how to shoot it, they know how to score. Um. They attacked our big eggs, whichever ones were out there. Montras hail marcusol Andre drum drumming. They knew how to go out them so giving a lot of credit Jake Crowder, those dudes did a nice job in Lebron after a

D went out after Game four. Um, they really packed the paint on him and they did a great job with him. And just to quick reflect on this series, the season for a kind of bring people up here, Um, if it was just an injury riddle season, man Lebron had an m v P type year. Um. After before his ankle injury, Lebron had an m v P type year. He was going off. He had an incredible season. I just did not see coming. Um. He approached the season

the way I kind of thought a d would approach it. Um. But he went after this he he saw that the m v P was for taking and it just and uh, it's disappointing what happened with Solomon Hill kind of falling into his leg. And I thought Anthony Davis just never entered this season, like he just was never himself here. Even when the Lakers started twenty one and six and we're starting marcusol had this beautiful starting line up with

the spacing anthy Davis was just never himself. He had like these two thirty point games against a really bad Houston team with James harden Quid and thirty points against this tanking Oklahoma City team, But other than that, it was a really tough season for him. Was a slog I don't think he was ever in conditioning shape, and then one injesty, and then he got the achilles injury, and after that you could tell he was just never himself. He never he never got to come to the season.

And that might have been the sacrifice for the Ring. You make that sacrifice every time, but that just looks like how this season kind of played out. So I'm gonna I'm gonna start bringing some people up here. I don't want to just vent, just be myself kind of venting up here. So if anyone wants to come up, please request. Um let's start with Hobby. Hobby comes up here. I appreciate everyone kind of coming in here. Again, if you're late, it's just me by myself. Jason is on

a flight to a Rubo hobby. Are you there? Yeah? I do want to say, guys, hey man, this hurts only because I did not see this happening. Yeah, I know with laws, you know, game five as bad as we did by did Nazi us actually losing to the Suns in the seven game series. We have Lebron James, and I'm not gonna blame him anyone that blames Lebron the wrong. No, it's not on Lebron. He made the right place. He played hard. Hey, he doesn't have the players say oh, bo, it's true. We got Kuzma. Bro Kusma.

I mean, come on, dude, we you You have been the third best player. Everyone said you're the third best player. We needed you, we needed you in the playoffs. Where was Kuzma. Yeah, it's kind of disappointing because I feel like Kuzma made a lot of how we appreciate you, um coming on here, but tiving of course. And uh, it's disappointing because I feel like Kuzma really made strides to kind of become a super winning player, become a

really high level defensive wing. You know, he was a guy we were throwing on our the US wing wing scores on the other team, and we were kind of trusting and crunch time as well. Um, he shot thirty six percent from three I think on the year. But it was like fort On catching shoe or something. So it's kind of disappointing that this is the series that kind of goes out with He's another guy where like, I'm not sure how much the short offseason affected him.

I'm not really sure. Um, And he's a guy that like we've kind of developed, right and we were kind of happy and proud exactly, and we were proud of it. And honestly, none of the role players showed up like Lebron I think wasn't himself either, but none of the role players kind of showed up to this series, which is kind of disappointing. Lebron didn't score thirty in the series once, which kind of shows where he's at. I think,

I think I think Phoenix is a big part of that. Yeah, I think Phoenix is a big part of that too. But yeah, man, that was a tough series. And uh, we'll hopefully we can get him next year. We'll see how the team kind of rebounds from the late Lakers for life. Man, we we got faith, we got hope. Next year will be better, hopefully, Hopefully it will be better next year, hopefully. Thank you, How I appreciate you.

Let SR Joe are you there. Yeah, man, I'm here. Um, hey man, first of all, before before I get started, UM, just appreciate you guys bringing all the content. Man um you guys. Yeah, y'all bring your perspective to the Lakers that you know all us Lakers fans really appreciate and um, so look forward to you know, continuing to listen to you all. But man, I for me, you know, like you said, it was just a disjoin it injury plague season, no rhythm, no cohesion. So I'm not surprised. I'm hurt

as a Lakers fan. But you know, the one thing I know about Lebron and I was so happy that he did not shake hands with the sons. I was just glad that, you know, I piste off Lebron or Lebron that's got gonna stew He's gonna come back. Just I feel like he's gonna come back ready to just you know, unleashed from the league. But they gotta have a conversation with a D about I just feel like a D I don't know if he loves basketball. That's

just me. I could be overreacting, you know. I'm I'm hurt that we lost, but they've got I'll never forget Rods. When when Lebron uh called him and Ad was playing Call of Duty, Lebron wanted to talk basketball. A D want to talk about reaching the next level on Call of Duty. I know it sounds like I know that sounds crazy, but it's just something in that guy that does not seem like he loves basketball. But I'm I'm gonna stop rambling. Man. You know, I still love and

support the Lakers, and I want the Clippers to lose tomorrow. Later, man, I appreciate you, Joe. Well, just to reflect on the A D point, like, I think this was a tough year for him, and it's tough for me to say he doesn't like basketball. Like a guy you don't get that good get to the level he's gotten at m v P, you know, Olympic, Olympian Champion, all his accolades, you know, all those all star teams, Like you don't get there without loving basketball in some kind of format.

I think this was a tough season for him, and I never thought he really entered the year like he never really played to himself. He was never himself and you know he has the injury but kind of stuck on him I think he's more just hurt a lot. He's not out as much as people think he is. UM. This season is kind of the uh arbitrary one of those, but like for the most part, he plays like the last three seasons he's played. UM. I think the only one it wasn't where he was held out in New Orleans,

So I think that's kind of tough. But he got the injury but kind of labeled on him, And I think that's part of what he tried to play tonight. He tried to give it a go and uh, it just wasn't there UM. And I think it was a mistake for him to go out probably, but I respect

his hustle to try to play through that. And you know, guys like Snoop Dogg and those guys calling it putting pictures of him on a wheelchair, like, you don't do what he did in the playoffs last year without having hard or having you know, all the things that make a champion. He was the second best player and sometimes the first. We forget after Game two we thought he was the finals MVP. Like that's the kind of way we were kind of talking about him. So UM that

that's my thing on a d. He's a superstar. He's worth every penny that he's getting. He's also worth every bit of that trade. So I appreciate you, joeld Up for all the calls throughout the spaces, Man, it means a lot to us. I appreciate you. Let's see, uh Walt, it's I'm trying to connect a few people and then have it so I don't have to wait for the connecting. And again, if you if you just kind of join in here. Um, Jason is on a vacation trip out

to Aruba. Jay, are you there? Yeah? Man, thanks you taking me? Of course? What's going on? Bro? But cool. The beginning of the year, I feel like we're trying to corner he was rebounding playing these things. I had a couple of games, we had five or six six is then it's just like he fellow for Cliff and it's just like he just played his way out of l A this whole city like fifteen percent from the fifth what what? What? What are we gonna do with that?

And he's supposed to be the third guy. Even tonight, Ta Taylor showed more hard than he think who's did tonight And he only played like fifteen twenty minutes and who's played almost like thirty minutes. It's sad this roster, Like I see people talking about trading a D and all of this. Why would you trade a D when he's one of the best best bigs in the league. And we we it's obvious with the roster needs. It needs an overhaul and get shooters in defense and a

mixture of young guys in that. Yeah, for sure, And like Kuzma had a really tough series, and again, like not to blabor the point on Kuzma again, but it's kind of disappointing that this is the way it goes out because he's really developed in to a winning type of player, man. And I don't think I don't think six games kind of throws away what a player has turned into. Especially last year. I thought he had a good playoff run as well. So this was just a

tough year, man. And I don't know if this is the last game he's played as a Laker, but I think he's like past expectations, you know, he's just late first round pick. Um got to a second contract with l A and uh he was a part of a championship team. Man, So he had a bad series, but a lot of role players had really bad series, and and that's something they're gonna have to address. They had

terrible shooting, historic level bad shooting in this series. He missed all his open threes, as did everyone else, So it's kind of hard for me to just kind of blame him. He definitely had a bad series, but there were a bunch of players who really struggle with their shooting. Well, one last thing, man, all let's talk about needs to be five. I like vog because without him, defense wouldn't have been half as good because of the schemes he

put in. But I think we need like an offensive assist, the one that just works on the offense making it better so we get shooters better looks and their spots and stuff. But we'll see who happens in the all season. And Rob, we trust thanks for taking of course they I appreciate you, man. And yeah, Vogel was going to be the coach next year. Let's talk about him not being the coach is ridiculous. Ridiculous. He's he's going to be the coach, Jair. I appreciate you man, Thank you. Walters,

are you there? My god, what's up? Riding on you. Man, How are you doing good? How are you man? I'm good man, thank you for bringing me up? Of course, what's up? Man? Man that much? Man? Um, of course it hurts a little bit because I love my team. I don't like to see my team lose, especially not to the Suns because of the trash they were talking

and you know, all the stuff that we're doing. But um, you know, I just want you all to keep in mind, man, uh, six before we had all the injuries, the protocols, you know, and six second in the West playing some of, if not the best basketball in the league. Um, keep in mind, this was like an unprecedented season with like a quick turnaround. We only had seventy one days of rest. Um, not

a lot of practices. So when you add in the injuries with not a lot of practice time, with bringing in drumming and working in new pieces, you're not gonna get that chemistry you need to to make another long run after playing in the bubble and playing but then that time frame that they had the playoffs, and yeah, I definitely believe you know, next year number one priority should be health and then and you really can't control that, so you really can't call that a priority, um, but

just you know, making sure we get chemistry, we know what we capablow. We're healthy as far as like having great defense and being able to hold teams, uh, you know, under a certain amount points. And then we kind of you know, our superstars do the heavy lifting and do we need to do to win the game. But man, y'all, keep your heads up. Man, we'll be all right. We just gotta get healthy. Next year should be a better year as far as navigating season and more, you know,

time to rest and whatnot. And then Rob Rob do what he do. Man, He's shown he willing to take swings and he can get the team bet on the margin. So yea, I'll keep your heads up. Yeah. I like that you brought up that six numbers, So I thought that was with the whole line up playing. But the starting lineup that went tonight only played twenty one games together. They went fifteen and six, um, So it was actually a little bit a little bit less games that they

even got together. So it's kind of sad that we never got to see that, right, got to see the whole you know all something. Well, it wasn't a long summer. It was like two months between October and December. But the whole time we kind of theorized what the Lakers would look like with a you know, a spacing big man and with Lebron and a d kind of having another two more playmakers in the starting lineup, and we

just never got that. That team never got a chance with injuries, and then we brought in Andre Drummond, who got a DMP tonight, which is kind of funny that he didn't play after all the minutes handwringing we did over Andre Drummond, Dre Drummond minutes that he didn't even play tonight, But um, yeah, so we never really got a chance, man, And you saw tonight that those guys

look like they were still learning each other. Gasol is like, well, I'm standing here, Shrewder, you're supposed to be there, and Lebron's like, you're supposed to be there. And then all of a sudden, you know, they missed and the Sun's come down and hit it. Three year down seventeen. So that's my only disappointed with this season is we never got a chance to see the potential of this team.

But you're right, man, well we have another year. We got a ring last year, and Bog and Pelinka, those dudes will will get in the get in the office and get to work. I appreciate you all. Thank you. Man. Yeah, I'll be safe and and stay stay above water. Man, my guy appreciate you. Let's see. IMNA keep trying to bring people up here. It's keep saying connecting. Will are you there? Hey, Roj? How's it going? But I know

how bad? If you remember the last time we talked to was like after the Pacers game, and I was just so excited because Lebron you know, looked great. But it seems like after you know, the Pelicans game where he tweaked it like he couldn't just like the ramp up just got ruined by that, you know. I think that's why he never scored thirty. And that's why like he didn't look you know, like playoff Lebron really like and besides a few instances, but it just you know,

it comes down to health. Obviously eight he got hurt. That's the reason. But like, I what do you what do you think about Dennis? I'm asking, like, do you do you think like obviously we don't have a lot of options, but like he showed a lot of heart in the second half, but like, what do you think about him as a fit with Lebron for the next

like two years. Yeah, So it's kind of interesting. I thought he had a pretty good season, like and I thought his bit Lebron was be good when we had everybody healthy, right when it was like a d Lebron the Saul and him just being able to attack and being being a ball handler, shot creator off the ball, where Lebron can't just get ball pressure the whole time.

And it's kind of sucks because like his whole game is like off of fire and off of like intensity ride and like you know, not backing down, and like, I know those are kind of intangible things, but they go hand in hand with his game. Like that's where

he gets going. He hits a jump shot and kind of you know, starts to pick up full chord on Chris Paul Devin Booker, and you saw him kind of get going in the second half, and uh, you know, it's kind of funny that people are going to totally forget that he had a huge game too, and a huge Game three like he had and and we don't win both of those games without him even with a D playing Lebron playing, we don't want either of those games without his scoring there and people are going to

totally forget that, and that's understandable. It's a playoffs. So I'm not really sure. I don't think I got enough time to watch him and look if we can, if we can resign him at a good number, I think I think that's something they should do. He's not to touch that number that he was asking for, or that the Lakers even extending him for the four years eighty something. I don't think he's getting close to that. I mean, I just just looking at the situation. But maybe I

don't know. I don't want to go into people's pockets. But that's like where I'm at with him. I agree, I think you know what, that's actually that might end up being a good thing for us. It's like, you know, he kind of underperformed in a couple of games that could drop the value on his contract. And I haven't looked at our cap situation really much because I was just, you know, I was pretty excited about the playoff. For sure. I would really love to see, like us add a

little bit of shooting. Obviously, I heard you talking about it earlier, like historically bad, like I was, I was looking at the NBA shot chart, like I don't know if you ever um seen that before. I'm sure you have access to so for sure, But like the NBA shot chart for the series, and like before tonight, I don't know how much better we got tonight, but we were two for twenty two in the right corner, you know, in the in the meanwhile the sun's right corner three

and meanwhile the suns are from both warners. And it's just like you can't be two for twenty two in a corner and like you know, win the series such just that you gotta be you gotta be drilling the corner. So I hope we can have some shooting. And also like I guess this would be my last thing because I could ramble on forever. But like I thought, it

was kind of like not to be met anyone. But I thought it was kind of low for Joe to try to say that A D doesn't love basketball, like he the fact that he went out there tonight, like really, you know, like I can't believe he did that, Like he could have really he could have tours growing like Lebron, did you know like that was I thought that was actually kind of a bad decision for our medical staff to clear him, you know, like he could have he could have worse than that, But I thought that showed

like a lot of heart for him to go out there, and like, you know, he knew he wasn't under present, he could only play five minutes, but he still went out there. Yeah, for sure, And these are competitors, and like people are saying the Lakers, um should have held him out. He's a going man who the medical staff told him that he's he can't make it worse, right, so he's gonna try to pay through through and I

respect him for trying, and obviously it didn't work out. Um. And another thing, like you brought up that corner shooting, which is a lot worse not even thought it would be. But um, some more numbers. They're like the Lakers are shooting on their open threes, and it's like on their wide open ones, Phoenix is hitting like almost half of their wide open threes. And that's the series in my opinion,

like us not being when to hit open threes. That's such a like dynamo kind of feeling to it because once we don't hit open threes, they can pack the pain on Lebron and then also they start to attack our offensive rebounding, and you know, it just has a

you know, a dynamic, dynamic effect for that. But yeah, man, sometimes it's just a maker miss league, and we missed a bunch of I thought tonight, man, we we kept making a run and then Devin Booker would hit some to dribble, pull up, you know, double pump in the air, jumper and just and just just push that lead back and sometimes that's how it goes. He went, He went

up in my estimation like this series. Like I I always thought he was good, but like you know, I thought he might have a few more playoff games like the I think he went five or eighteen. You know in game three, I thought I thought he might do that a couple more times with the amen and job forty seven tonight really really shows a lot a lot about Booker. But yeah, like you, like you said, maker

mis league, like the jump segment exactly. I also just want to say, like I really appreciate, like the guy said before, like you guys is content and like you know, like your video showing how clogged. The pain is when like Lebron drives in there, you know, it's by five people in there. It's like, you know, it's nice to see people addressing that online, you know, And I appreciate you will. Thanks for coming on, man, and uh come on any time with us for sure. Hopefully you know,

I think next season will be better. But yeah, hope believe man, appreciate you. Bro. Jay are you there? What's up? Fellows? How you doing? Man? Honestly, Man, I'm chilling. I'm gonna tell you guys. I'm gonna tell you guys wanted chewing this whole this whole season. I know we want to bring up the twenty one and six. I know what points in the season. Um, the Lakers look dominant in some quarters personally just watching it compared to last year. Um, I mean, I think this comes down to point Lebron

Verse splitting the playmaking responsibilities because he's thirty six. The biggest thing this year that fell off, like the entire season. Part of this is injuries and continuity. It's just I don't want to say basketball i Q, but it's more of just the execution of the basketball plays right, Like there's very few times I reflect on this season and I'm like, wow, that the Lakers actually executed you know, ten straight players in our own offense and and they

won the game. It was just blown lead after blown lead. Um. Really weird defensive mistakes. Um. The turnovers drove me crazy all year. So as as much as it sucks to losing this way where it's like both our stars are out, um, I think you know, as long as we have those two guys next here will be straight. So the one question I wanted to ask you is, though, what what do you do? What do you think it takes for a D two commit to a full season of playing center?

Like what gets into that stage? Like? I know, right, I know this year we we we can't really we couldn't ask him to do that because he was injured from the finals, shortest offseason. He didn't look right all season. I think we all can agree on that. But I think when I think back of last season, right, like, we played two big so much the season and we have to table that in the playoffs because the best liners were a D at the five, and I feel like we were robbed that this season. So honestly, we

could talk about getting a third playmaker. We can talk about getting some shooters, some defenders. This team is going to run off Lebron James and a D and they obviously have a lot of the team. But I think a D has to play the five, right, No, that's a great question, And like I think A D is kind of addressed it, right, He's kind of said, Um,

he doesn't want to play the five. He doesn't like the physicality, and like Jason always talks about, like how that's kind of counterintuitive because it kind of it's more physical to kind of play the power forward the way that we kind of use it. Um. But yeah, I think that's where he's that kind of with that, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. And I'm not

sure like it really has to. Um, I think there are enough fives out there that are serviceable during the regular season, and I think A D will play the five when it matters. Um, he did this year. At least he should have, um if if he played meaningful minutes. But he obviously doesn't want to play that position. And you know, you kind of have to go as your superstars kind of want to there. And and he's a crazy force at the four. As well, and you know

he can be an insane health defender. And I think you're right. Him at center is his most his best sent his best position to be utilized. That it's just he does not want to play that position. So I don't know what we'll get him there. Um, maybe next year if the roster is kind of really down with fives and maybe he'll start at center. But it's very clear that he doesn't want to and and I think there's still a chance that he doesn't have to, Like do you have Marcus s al that's a center that

should be able to play now. Andre Drummond was an experiment that obviously they were trying and they really believed in. Um, and I think the Andrew Drummond thing might have worked with a healthy on an A D will never will never know, Like we'll just never know that that never got the chance to to get off the ground where the ground room floor. So that's where I'm at with that. Man, I don't know. I would love for a D to play center a full season. That's just not something he

wants to do. And and I think the Lakers have to work around at That's just how it is. Yeah, just one just one quick thing. Like I think personally, I do think it's a little overboard to say that we need him to play the center at the whole, you know, the whole season, right, But what he needs to do, in my opinion, is he needs to come out from the from the gates. Just come out scorching, right. He takes so long to find his rhythm in season. And I get that he's six ft eighteen in his

arms are are longer than anybody you've ever seen. So it's like it's probably just hard for him to get in rhythm. If he comes out and stops with the posting up for ten seconds every possession to start, you know, the first three weeks of the season, and gets out with the ball in the perimeter and increases his ball hidling and driving to the rim. I think that's gonna that that takes so much pressure off with broad one, but I think it will help him just be more

durable um in the long term. And I know it's kind of intuitive, but my thinking is he goes from from playing to playing slower than a lot of players in the league. I don't know if that makes sense, No, for sure, yeah, man, he does. He has a he has a really he hasn't like the knack to kind of be passive a lot right, like like he would like give Dennis Shrew the ball like on a lot of possessions. And and you know, he had these quotes about I'm trying to fit in, right, I'm like, you know,

you're Anthony Davis. You don't fit in like you. They fit in around you. So he has he has those kind of tendencies that happens a lot um. And you know, I don't think it's a motor problem. It's just that's just who he is sometimes. But you know, on the biggest stage in the playoffs, um, he had great games and even this series, man, people will forget his Game two and Game three performances. Um, but you know he thirty four points, thirty five points, I think, going to

the line seventeen times. And those are the real barometers for me when you can tell where Anthony Davis is having an engaged in Anthony Davis game, his free throw attempts and his offensive rebounding, that really tells me that the story for him and and I think that would be the same for next year. So we'll see. Hopefully he can be healthy all year next year, and obviously think the injury concerns are kind of overblown and all

that stuff. I also think like the center powerful ward thing is also a little bit more overblown than it than it needs to be. Um. If he's playing next to Lebron James Um, those two are a terror that if they're healthy, they'll be a terror and in very many lineups. And I think the Lakers will be able to find the right the right people to put around them. J I appreciate you, man. Let's see if I can bring some people up here. Yep, thanks See Chris, are

you there? N what's going on? Yeah? I don't know. I'm contemplating the Lakers right now. I just I knew things weren't gonna be good from the jump when we didn't sign with gen Rondo because we needed that leadership for the team. But I still have faith in Lebron. So the Sun's games come, he cuts Crowder. I respect that disrespecting people on the court, but when it's prime time ready to go, you're letting the fans the fans matter, but you're letting your teammates down like you're on the ground.

You're not getting back on defense Taylor, Horn and Tucker and the fourth quarter goes on a little run. You're down by only ten points, thirteen points, and you're not even getting back on defense. You leave h you leave Chris, Paul Open and Jake Crowder Like, I just think Brian bron might need to call it and in like maybe a year if you don't make another, if he loses in the first round again, you gotta retury. That's like, oh man, Like, I know that's the reach, but I'm

just saying for him to save his legacy. Like go on to ech stream, bro play a war zone and you're good, Like, stop taking l if you won't send a handle the business. Oh Man, Chris, I I appreciate you calling up well. First of all, with lebron Man, we got an m v P type season before the Solomon Hill kind of injury to his thakle. Um, he was playing at m v P level. He was playing at the top of his game. Um, he was actually better than he was last year in my opinion, like

just in the regular season. Um, he was having a fantastic, fantastic year. And it will never know how he killed he felt from that right, Like, will never actually know. Um, he'll never kind of say it, but he's talked about it how he's not, and it just never looked like

he was. But even even with that, like in health, when he got his healthy team, like the Lakers were up to one in this series, within eleven point lead in Game four, like that's that's legitimately what happened, and then a d went out at halftime, they Rochelle shocked. Um went for Game five. That crowd wasn't absolutely in their head. The Lakers could not. The Lakers shooters were scared. You could see it. And then and then tonight. Man, you're right though a lot of players where Lebron let

the referees get in his head. Um where you know he would drive, didn't get the call and would just stay on the offensive end, wouldn't run back and Phoenix will get a three, and a lot of those the game was already over, to be honest, like that th HD run. They were still down I think thirteen after his after his tip Dunkum. But you're right, man, some of that body language wasn't great from Lebron. You could tell he thought it was over. Um and and him

right there real quick, what's up? I just wanted to say, like on that point, like the referees getting in his head. I also didn't like a shot selection once, like things were getting like a little physical for him, Like, Lebron, you've been playing in the league for almost fifteen years now, Like these dudes were like going to your basketball camps, Like you gotta dominate these dudes. You're letting these You're letting these dudes plunk you right now on the core.

And then once Lebron takes starts taking crazy shots, I think all his teammates start to conform and take crazy shots. Yeah. Man, well he tried to hit some like transition threes, and I thought there were sometimes where his teammates didn't find him to when he was in the post um they were being really physical with the man. Credit to Phoenix Um. They really packed the paint um, they pinched all the nails. They went, they pinched the nails so he couldn't drive

and just dared our shooters to make shots. And Wes Matthews hit a few tonight, but still Lebron would try to get in the paint, try to get some contact. They weren't giving him those those and ones, those calls, and he missed a few at the rim um, but you know, credit to Phoenix man, they did a great job being really physical with him, um getting frustrated and uh, this was one of his lower series. Man, he didn't even score thirty. I don't think in this series one time,

and um that I don't think that's Lebron. I don't think that's playoff Lebron. So hopefully next year he'll be a little more healthy in these series. And what do you think? What do you think about Vogan personally? I don't like Vogel because when Paul George and those Indiana Pacers they started getting smoked, it was a good series. But Vogel has never been a good coach. Like he always loses in the first round like all the time.

So like I just don't understand like the point of that signing, Like there's so many other coaches you guys could have got. I just feel like they just get whichever coach just were like right Lebron, like right Lebron, Like Lebron can do anything. That's what it looks like. When you say the shooters are scared, I think they like scared Lebron kind of because they they're Fenna go work at McDonald's if they ain't playing for the Lakers.

So so Vogel, Man, he's he had us as the number one defense all year, even without Lebron and a D missing a ton of time. Is he the best offensive coach? No? Is he really slow making counters? Yeah, he takes his time with that, but he didn't get the chance this year. Man, he coached the hell of the playoff series last year. Coach this team which had people in and out of the lineup all year, and he's gonna be the coach next year. He's a good coach, um.

If you if you remember, they signed Vogel before they even got Anthony Davis, So they had Lebron, James, they had all the kids, um and and that's when they got Vogel. And and you know, he wouldn't have been the coach if Lebron wasn't you know, if Lebron wasn't accepting of it as well. So I think both of them have a great relationship. They're both really basketball minded people. And I think he's a good coach. I don't think he was the issue this season. Chris. I appreciate you,

manum get some more. I appreciate you. Bro Okay, bro Basilio, are ei there? Oy? My guy? Are you I can hear you? What'sever? Bro Old? Well? You know no, then I we were spid, but you know I joined. I want to tell you, I know, in the mood to talk about the game. You know, I'm pretty sad. I know you you may may be sat too. Well. Can you tell me your hopes for next season? What will you do with you? What's next for us? Yeah? Sure, so, I mean just looking at it now. Um, the Lakers

have some decisions to make. Um, they have you know, Alex Caruso, which I think is a free agent himself. They're gonna try to bring him back for sure. Dennis Shrewder obviously is the big famous one. They're gonna try to bring him back. Um, I think I think you've got to try to bring Cruso back. But KCP is still signed for next year, Kuzma signed for next year.

Gasol also I think signed for next year, And so you can kind of build with this core man and you'll have vets who want to come U. The Lakers are the Lakers, and there's still a championship level team with a D and Lebron and I think Polinco will do his job there. I'm not worried about the team next year. I think they'll get a really good offseason. Um, they have a first round pick coming as well, the twenty. I think they scond pick um. But yeah, I think

that's the most important thing. Getting some more vets, getting some shooting. I think shooting is important, and I would love to keept. I would love for West Matthews to kind of to uh come back as well. I think he'd be a good addition to stay in. And from there they have decisions to make. Dennis Shrewder. I think they'll see what he gets on the open market and uh and try to bring him back at a at a number that makes sense for both sides. But that's

makes it the main thing. And then getting Caruso to come back as well. I think those two will be their main priorities this offseason, and then from their kind of fill in. But it's crazy that the off seasons already here, but yet those are the kind of things that go with Yeah, you know, you know, Kyle Lowry and CP three are looking for a ten million conflicts. Will you give one of them? Tom William to join the Lakers. They're gonna get a lot more than ten million.

Chris Paul is going to get about a hundred millions from Phoenix for three years, and Kyle Lowry is definitely get some twenty million dollar deal. So I would love for them to come for ten million, but that is not happening. There's just no there's just there's just no chances dudes come to that. Oh thirty million, Oh oh, well, I don't think we have room for them for a thirty million. Um. I just don't think that for the way the salary cap works, I just don't think we

canda lists. Maybe we signed in trade for for Kyle Lowry or Chris Paul. Chris Paul I would love man, that would be amazing to get him. I don't think I would do it for for, um, Kyle Lowry thirty million dollars. I just I just don't think we have the necessary necessary things to pull that off. So I don't think either of those are coming this summer. But never know, maybe some star wants to be traded here. But I just think they're going to continue to build with Lebron and a d as there uh as the

main focal points and try to build from there. Yeah, you didn't mention a will you bring them back? So I think both of those dudes are gonna walk. I'm pretty sure they've talked about bringing back Drummond. Um, but I think he's gonna try to get something from the outside market. I think Harold as well, he's going to get from the outside market. So you're right, I forgot about those two mantres didn't play this series. Um, so we'll see how that how the pre agency goes, um Vassilia,

I appreciate you, man, Right, thank you man. Dave are you there? Yeah? Man? What's up? What's going on? Bro? Dude? I feel like everybody has completely lost all sense of any sort of context. What's the deal? Like how they give us the context Dave gives. So let's start with this, Right, that guy was just talking about Frank Vogel. Right, we've got the number one defense. We had over eighty games missed by our starters this year and we still have

the number one defense. Right, Like, we're up to games to one. When Anthony Davis goes down, KCP goes down, we lost a c tonight, Like, like, I just don't see how people don't see this was the shortest offseason in any sports history, right, Like this would have been the most difficult repeat ever. And people are like, you look at every team that was in either the conference finals or the or the finals last year, they're all

playing terrible, Like Jamal Murray was hurt. Although the Nuggets did win, but they struggled to beat the sixth seed Portland's that has no defense. I just don't see how people don't see the context of what's going on. Like, obviously we played bad. We can't make shots. That that's bad news, right, But it was nice to see him play with heart tonight. And I don't know, man, I

just it's frustrating. We just got to run it back, man, we'd make a few changes here and there, like Rob's done what he needs to do, Like this this all comes down to context in my opinion. No, I'm totally with you, man. I think it's just been a frustrating kind of season. Um, and the Lakers kind of had a bunch of weird losses at the end. They had a little five game win street end this season. All those games are kind of weird. To play the Knicks and then barely beat I think the Rockets. I forgot

who else they played during that street stretch. I mean, D has forty two points against these exact same sons, and we killed the court like and that's what I'm saying. I mean, it comes down to, like we just look ghast, like the day these guys are playing playing awful because they had games of the ninety five days in the bubble and then they got to try to turn around

after seventy days. It just seems like, come on, man, we gotta give him at least a little bit of grace, Like everyone's everyone's given their heart and soul, and we came away with the championship. Like I don't know, I guess I'm just not seeing. It's not doomsday, right, let's run it back, let's get healthy. No, yeah, for sure,

it's not dooms. I guess the most disappointed, I think for a lot of people and for myself, it's like the role players really didn't come to play, like even without a D. Like, you know, our role players really kind of messed the bed hoping in this one. A lot of miss open jump shots that you know, stuff that's supposed to go now for NBA. But but but you're right though, like there's a lot of contexts to

take from this really short off season. I never thought a d ever joined this season, like just he never Anthony Davis like he was a good player still when it was like he could do it for one night, but then he couldn't. He couldn't do it consistently because exactly, yeah, exactly, even Ron right, like Lebron can't do it either, Like he was sitting there just passing, like he wasn't even initiating offense like we've normally seen from him. I don't

know it was surprising. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he came back way too early too and should have stayed out for a couple more weeks. Like he just did not play like the guy like that before he got hurt. This year. We didn't have Anthony Davis for a ton of those games, and he was super dominant, like we looked, we looked really good early in the season before Lebron got hurt, even without Anthony Davis, right, but that wasn't the case here at the end. And again,

he's not in great shape because he was out. He missed more games in a row than any other time in his career. It just seems like me in that context has got to at least be part of the conversation for sure. Oh no, absolutely, And Lebron was never himself I think after that ankle sprain. Rather he just never got into his conditioning that he needed to um. He never scored thirty points after that ankle sprain that

he had, just was never himself. He came back one game I think against Sacramento, and he had to rest in another couple of games because it wasn't right. So it was just a weird season. No no chemistry, no cohesion. Guys are learning, Guys are learning each other's games in

the playoffs, you know. So it's just a really weird year a lot of times to think from it, the other weird the other one thing I thought about it, think about after game Game three, right, like that's the game where Lebron was was sunning Crowder in the in the post, like we felt like we had tons of we felt like we had tons of chemistry. That was

just a couple of games ago. Like it was just that kind of a season where it would be like we would go on a run and then we would just be like a disaster for like a couple of games. Like it was either like we're doing amazing or we're off with Hey, I got one last question your man. So you talked a little bit about I think a C and th HD they're there for sure guys that

we should go after. I mean one of your thoughts on on Shrewder and UH and Harold because those seem to be the those are the bigger names and the bigger money items. Yeah, so, like I feel like Mantrez is kind of trying to try to try to get the biggest bag he can. Um. I don't think they'll bring him back just the way they used him in the playoffs. I think it's kind of clear that both of them are going in opposite directions, right. I think Treads was great in the regular season. UM. I called

him an innings eater a lot. Like I feel like he did his job. They're kind of keeping us afloat. UM. Shrewder is the interesting one. I think they'll try to bring him back at a respectable number. I don't think he's going to touch the number that they try to extend him at earlier that four years eighty. I think it's probably screwed. He screwed himself. Like if you start at the beginning of this game. In last game he

was like one for fourteen at one point. Yeah. Yeah, so it was a really it's funny people are going to forget that Game two. In game three he had that really helped us. But yeah, he had a really tough playoffs man, And that's what you're judged on. And you know, I think that COVID protocol right before the season ended really derailed kind of the rhythm he was building with the team. Um so they're gonna try to bring him back T H T as well. I think

it's a guy that there. He might have been the second most important part of this season just his development right, getting him going, getting his reps, getting him better as a player. You can see his growth even tonight, just as a guy who's confident. So that's where I'd go with him. Man. A C I think is the important one too. Yeah. I also don't think I've heard anybody talk about the fact that Chris Paul was a mentor

and a teammate to Shrewder last year. So he's probably the one guy that knew where his weaknesses were and how we could pick him apart to like, like, nobody's really talked about that because he struggled last year and those playoffs too, like for okay, see, I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly, but exactly. Yeah, and Case and CP had an awesome series. Damn. I appreciate you. Thanks man, I appreciate the time. See if I can get I'm gonna trying to bring multiple people up here so I

don't have to wait for it to connect. Aaron, are you there? Yeah, dude, what's up? Yeah? Honestly, I've been kind of in and out of listening to the two guys combo, but I did hear you guys talking about th HD a bit um? Yeah, honestly, I know it's been kind of depressing on the on the top so far, but I kind of just want to focus on THHD because I really like his ship. I like what he brings.

I love the energy that brings. Obviously, he like you were saying, he needs more reps and needs more experience, but I I really hope he's He's not somebody that gets that gets traded. And another thing, when I add real quick is just I know a lot. I know Kuzma has been getting a lot of hate, but I feel that I feel that I don't know. I like the energy he brings too, and I think it's hard for him to find a shot too, especially with like two other superstars like Adane Lebron. So I don't know,

I just want to throw that into the conversation. No, for sure, And like, look, Kuzma is a guy that I'm sad that this is the way he goes out because I feel like he really developed here, not just this year, last year into a winning player under Vogel and becoming a defensive minded kind of player, a guy who does all the little things. If you remember his rookie year, Man, they gave him the ball, let him score.

He was the eight teen points per game score and then he and then those when then when Lebron came, you know, his shots went down. His efficiency these last these last two years, man, he's been a winning player. Like he's really, um, he's really turned himself into that and turned himself into a guy who just takes spot up three pointers and and he missed all the shots in the playoffs, Like that's just what happened. And it's

sad that that's kind of how it went Um. We expect better from him, and I look, the Lakers signed him to like a three year or forty deal. They believe in his development. If he's traded, he's traded. But I think they I don't think these six games take away from the two seasons worth of stuff that he's gone. And he was a championship level player last year and THHD as well. I think case she's really important. Um just you don't usually get young guys like this on

championship level teams. You don't get this type of talent to be able to nurture and develop. So that he's a guy that I think they're going to try to keep as well this offseason. He's a restricted free agent, so I think those two dudes are part of the young core along with Crusoe, not the guy they'll try to keep. No, yeah exactly. I was actually just thinking of Cruso too, but no, yeah, I am. I don't really have much else to add, but I mean, thanks

for all you do, Roger. I really appreciate all the stuff that you put on on Twitter and like your your whole thing. I really appreciate it. Me and my siblings are always always keeping up with their stuff, so things. I appreciate you, Aaron thinks, Man, I appreciate it. Uh let's see. Oh okay, Okatchy are either uh yeah, you hear me, I can hear you. What's going on? Man?

Nothing much? But yeah, it was a tough way to end the season, obviously seeing that, and I mean, yeah, like the writing was kind of on the wall, the injuries, the whole thing. But um, I'm kind of like looking forward and I think we gotta really just put th Hd at the forefront. And I think he has a legitimate shot. I don't know what we do a shooter, but he's got a legitimate shot to start next year and also maybe probably be that six man. Mm hmm.

I don't think that's like a crazy idea. And I know people like the last guy we just came in, he was talking about Kuzma and everybody's playing flaming Kuza. But Kuzma for for what he was asked for the season, which was to depend and you know, hit timely threes. For the most part, he was good and obviously towards

the end it kind of just fluttered out. But yeah, I think we really got a um pushed towards TSD and make him a forefront and sort of like make him an important piece of what we're doing in the future. And then as far as getting more shooters, um, that's all up to the the front office and let's see

what they do there. And also let center rotation because we've got to figure that out because without when a D is not on the court, we gotta have at least decent um efficiency or the defense and rebounding just it's got to be there, no for sure. And just to like go on your th h T point. He really developed this year. Like especially even he was a really bad off ball defender, I think he really improved

on their His on ball defense also really improved. And him just being as a shot creator, you could tell his confidence, it just had a whole another level. Um him as a just a high ball screen type of player, a guy you can just give the ball to and just say create a shot, get a bucket. He really got Um. He really got comfortable with his fade away as well. Um. I still think his three pointers so up and down. That's gonna have to be worked on. But they really believe in him and his talent is there.

You don't get kids like this on championship level teams, and I think they really I think they really realized that this is a deep team. Man, even and even when everyone was healthy, he was like the seventh eighth man coming off the bench when we were winning, when we were like twenty one and six or whatever. He was a full part of the rotation, backup point guard, shooting guard. UM. I think he he took West Matthew spot.

If you remember earlier in the year, Wes Matthews was like the backup guard and THHD just stole those minutes because he was that good. And uh, I think I think he definitely had a shot next year for the backup guard. I don't know if he'll be the starting point guard. I don't think he's shooting is good enough yet to start next to Lebron. I think you need more shooting, but you know, you never know. I think his three point shooting is real. I think it can be.

I don't think it's like something that um he can't improve on. So I think you're right. And when with Kuzma, man, you hit it right on the money, like his job is to be an energy guy, hit shots, rebound um, and he really improved on that, and it's sad that this is the way that they're gonna they're gonna kind of remember him. But uh, I think you're right on that money with that though, Kuzma did his job this

year other than the playoffs, which is the disappointing part. Yeah, and one more thing because people were trying talking about trading him, but then I don't know how many six nine guys out there right to play both sides of the ball, Like, there's not many of those guys out there. Like then the next guys they're just they're they're also level players like those are who those types of players are. So trading Kuzma, I don't know what we get back

and would that be even better? Right? You can never have enough three and D wings, Like that's what the league kind of wants. Everyone wants that. And look, Christmas three wasn't there. But you have a guy that defends and doesn't make mistakes on the on the floor, you you kind of live with the open three is not going in at sometimes. Um, it's just sad that this is the way it kind of happened. But again, he wasn't the only one. The whole team went cold. The

whole team kind of got shook. Um, I think the A D news really hurt. Um, I don't. This's just a theory of mine. Just a D being a game time decision in game five, then E D trying to play tonight and not being able to go. It just kind of kills the whole like mood with the team. You know, you could just tell when a D went out, Like when a D went out after five minutes tonight, you could just tell. The whole team was like, oh, that's probably it. And then I'm not excusing that, I'm

just saying that's what it looked like. So you're kind of right, because like Anthony Davis, essentially he was her best player, Like right, like Anthony Davis needed to be that um game to game three type of player in thirty or four points affect both sides of the ball, like he needed to be that guy for the Lakers, so in this series, and well, just he wasn't healthy enough to do it, which really sucks for any team, Like if anything loses the best player, like it's hard

to come back to that. You're right exactly, Yeah, I agree with you, and hopefully he'll be back next year. But that's just a blow to your team, man. And h Phoenix is a hell of good team. I want to give them props. Man, that's a legitimately good team that had a chance to beat us even when we were healthy. In my opinion, like I just thought they were legitimately that good. You don't win that many games on accident, like they want to think, like the games

after January for some crazy number. I think they start like ten and ten or something something like that, and he went on a went on a crazy run. So they're legit, they're good. They have a shot to win the title. They're they're that good. Um, so great to them, but yeah, it sucks to lose your second best player in the middle of a playoffs series. Like most teams wouldn't be able to survive that and we didn't. Yeah, thanks a getting rodgered up form letting me speak, But

I'm gonna let you get to other people, of course. Man, I appreciate you coming on. Come on anytime, all right, See Brett, are you there? Yeah? What's up? What's going on? Man? Oh? You know, just trying to talk my way through this and um, one thing I want to talk about is I think that a lot of people are sort of putting a lot of the blame on the team building.

This team, this team had. I think that people are saying, oh, I should have kept the white People are saying that should have kept Vail, which I think is just blasphemous seeing what happened. Well, we we didn't see anything of him. I think the last two series of last season, people were saying Danny Green, should we should have kept him

over Shrewder. Um. I just I'm very confused whether people are thinking um, because I think that considering that Lebron and Anthony Davis got hurt, I think that we're not even close to making the playoffs with the group that we had last year. You know, we talked about how this group was depending on Lebron Anthony Davis. Last season, we had zero playmaking outside of Lebron and Anthony Davis. I mean, you could say Rondo, but you know, who knows what he would have been during the regular season.

So I just wanted to just get that out there that like this, you know, Harold and Shrewder, that they're the reason that we're in the playoffs. We're not making the playoffs without those guys having good nights during the rh of season when Lebron jameson Anthon Davis were out. And I'm just thinking this, if you were to ask before the season, know, Lebrono, did you get hurt? I think that the first question you asked, why do we even make the playoffs? And I think this is sort

of the furthest that you could have gotten considering the circumstances. Yeah, I mean it's funny if you kind of go back to like the preseason UM podcasts of a lot of Laker kind of podcasts and stuff like that, they were I wasn't watching during the Kobe and Check kind of era, was really old enough to kind of watched that, but um, they were saying, this is the most talented Laker team that they've seen in a long time, like and it kind of and for me, it's more talented than our

own nine oh ten teams like that. Just the group of talent, the collection of talent was was just really high man and I just don't think we ever got a shot. But a shrewd run Harold, Like Harold to me was a uh innings eater in the regular season, a guy that really can just put up numbers and really help us through those kind of dog days of energy lacking nights. And I think he did his job

and he brought his energy on those nights. And it sucks that in the playoffs that he really got taken out of the rotation like this, because Phoenix is a team I he can play against. They play Kaminski, they play Sorry sometimes we didn't play this series, but Kaminski is a guy that can go at it. You know, Harold just didn't just the way the rotations worked out.

But man, this like going after Polinka and after the roster construction is so hindsight is and you're right, like last year's team, I don't know what putting Danny Green and Dwight Howard and Tamail McKee does to a team with al Anthony Davis and Lebron for half that for like games. It just doesn't make sense. Um, It's kind of like the Kyle Lowrydrid trade. In my opinion, you get Kyle Lowry, but you get them with no Lebron for twenty games, no a D for thirty games, Like,

what's the point of that. There's no there's no comparison to be made. This team wasn't healthy it didn't get a chance, so going after the moves in the off seasons kind of it doesn't really make sense to me. I think you're right with that. That's really all I had to say. Thanks, appreciate you. I'm gonna get to a get to a couple more here. I've been going for like an hour, um, and I'm starting to lose my voice. Let's get to uh, two more here and get to a couple people him waiting for a while.

I'm gonna get a couple of people at times. So if you get up here, I'll kind of just wait, justin, are you there? Justin? Hey, how you doing? Man? Can you hear me? You can hear what's going on? Man? I'm just frustrated with how this season went. I understand, and I get all injuries is all part of it. I just felt like this team we just never really clicked with all those injuries, and even still it felt like and then when we got healthy, at least it felt like some of our guys we're I guess their

heads weren't always there. Throw Ouder example of he like he was healthy for the majority of the season, but then he had those there was times when he just was a bone headed So I just wondered if I just wondered if half the time we were just going walking through the motions of this series, thinking, hey, we can get back and we know what it took to get there, and just we're trying, We're just going to

go through the motions of going through it. Yeah, So that was kind of one of my issues with the season, and a hole like I thought we had. We didn't have a respect for the continuity that it takes to win a title. And I'm not just just talking about obviously Lebron an a deal route, but I just thought we were playing a lot of rotations a lot of minutes that just didn't make a lot of sense to me.

And Shrewder was a part of that as well. He was a lot of weird rotations and uh, he's a guy that's also playing for a contract, Like that's not

something that's hidden. I don't know if that effects I don't think that affected his kind of team play, but it's just like you have all these things kind of working um against like one team, kind of playing for a goal, and uh, like we had we had minutes with a lot of like Ben mckamore and like my tris Harrold playing next to Mark even Morris, like just linus.

It didn't make sense to me. And then you try to turn a switch on, right, You try to turn this switch into the playoffs, like this is go time, this is this has to be serious, and you just can't turn that switch on. Sometimes it's just not there. Um. And that's how a lot of title teams, a lot of championship teams kind of lose. And I thought that's how we lost, Like we just like that game one we kind of sleep walked through and A d even

talked about it. We didn't have energy for it, like that's game one of the playoffs and we just decided not to have energy for it. So those are things that happened, man, And uh, it sucks that this was a year, but it's just like that's how we went. We we sleep the walk through a lot of this season, um, from a coaching perspective to a player's perspective, a lot of just experimental stuff to just you know, go through the motions, and and that's how we kind of lost. Yeah, no,

like get it. Hopefully we can addressing and get ourselves. This is a wake up call for some of these guys that we and addressed it in the off season later on, because I know, yeah, I know, Anthony Davis is probably thinking he's getting He's like, I, I get the rest up for the Olympics because Team US. I think it starts the week after the finals. I mean, I'm not really sure if he'll play in the Olympics,

but we'll see. Um. I don't think any of the players who kind of talked about it yet, but I feel like most of them are gonna want to just rest this offseason. But but we'll definitely see. Um what's gonna happen? Justin I appreciate you, man, thank you for for coming on, thank you for always listening. I always see you in here, no problem. Uh, let's see Mario? Are you there? Like this? The last kind of one for the night going on? Man? Oh man? That game

was very depressing to watch. But I kept watching the game. You know, I've been I've been watching the Lakers since since I was small. You know, I didn't see the Kobe and shock and all. But that game was very tough for me and for everyone all of us. Um. So, now that the season is done for us, now it's the OFFSA. You know, I've been thinking about it lately. And if we don't get Harold back, which we won't and Drummond, I feel like the Lakers should reese. Uh,

they should sign Damian Jones. I really love the way he played those Tink games m hm and bringing a power forward, more defense, more three and three and D like Robert Cummington, or you know, some more defense and more shooting. Yeah, I we'll see. Like Damian Jones, that thought did his job. It was great for the Lakers. UM. I totally understood going after Andre Drummond. I feel like that was a there was a talent gap there, but never know how that would have worked out. Maybe he

comes back. I think Sacramento likes him. I think they're gonna try to keep mp um, but yeah, they're gonna try to go after some shooting and maybe some more you know, athletic bigs. I feel like we were short on that this year. We really didn't have a low threat next to a d um that can really help give just give some pressure off Lebron and and a d down there in the in the doctor spot where we have however, guy's posting up. We need a guy who can catch lobs down there. Drum is not that guy.

Marcosol is a really great spacer. He's also not that guy, so Cam Pastor, Right, So we might might want to go after some athletic bigs, athletic wings and some shooting this offseason and and there we'll have a lot of time to talk about the offseason and uh and definitely kind of get into it more. But yeah, that's kind of where the baseline is is just going after those

kind of players. And and the Lakers are the Lakers, man, You're gonna have vets wanting to come and and and and chase rings and stuff like that at uh, and then you get Lebron and a d You'll be You'll be fine. So the Lakers will be fine. Yeah, I think I think they The season was a little bit too rushed for sure, and and I knew something bad was gonna happen too, because after that finals running what was in November right somewhere around the yeah around there.

I don't think that was such a good idea for Adam Adam Silver to bring back the NBA quickly. I think they should have waited until next October. Yeah, I mean they were never going to do that. It was a money thing kind of. Uh, they need to get it done before the Olympics, and this was the agreed upon so everyone can get their money. And then maybe they started too soon. You're seeing a lot of injuries

kind of get come out. All the teams that went far in the playoffs last year, um really kind of got struck by either injuries or went out early in the playoffs. But yeah, that this is what they decided in the playoffs are here and the team that wins wins. I mean, there's no kind of there's no uh, there's no sympathy. The Lakers won their title last year. No one has sympathy for them for losing in the first round, especially Chris Paul. Chris Paul has never even touched Chris Paul.

Leave that team to that finals. I think he has a good chance when he his first three he does. Yeah, Mario, I appreciate you, man, Thank you all right, I appreciate your thank you man. I appreciate it. I appreciate everybody kind of sticking out, hanging out. I mean, Jason will be back to in a pod. He's on, but he went to vacation, flew to Aruba, today so he wasn't here, but I appreciate everyone has stayed who listened throughout the whole season. UM, that really means a lot to us.

UM the support here and on the podcast has been crazy, So thanks everyone. Everyone has a safe night, and uh we'll see you guys soon