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Tre or Doughboy

Jun 15, 202246 minSeason 1Ep. 74
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Boyz in the Hood gives us the picture of the two types of guys our environment fosters. If you going the doughboy rout, when you pull out your weapon, you must be ready to shoot it. if you cant pull the trigger, don't sign up for that role. 

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So here's the thing. There's a really important thing to know when covering issues like this that, especially on the type of podcast I have, one is you can't be the breaking news people like. There's too many moving parts, the story is evolving, and really I'm not a journalist, you know, so I try not to do If you notice the way my show works, I try not to do breaking news stuff that's not the nature of my show.

I also try not to do the type of analysis that's necessarily drawing the conclusions about whatever particular like political land mind something is mine is too translate and to understand and to put into perspective things that might be baffling. There's a lot if you noticed about my show, there's a lot of my show that's really like yo. But on the other hand, you know what I'm saying, this is the way that food was thinking about that, or here's a way for you to think about this. Now.

When you get into something like a school shooting, but not only not just a school shooting, elementary school shooting, got dog kids, there's some stuff that I'm just not either emotionally prepared for or even equipped to do commentary on.

Nah saying like I can't. I can't call it. And then there's some sort of political landmines like you know what happened every time there's an active gunm in situation where you start talking about gun laws again, and like if we just if I just kept doing shows about gun gun laws, you know, I would sound just like the rest of the cut true where you know, don't

not never get done, and it's just ridiculous. And in the meantime, foods getting shot up all the time, you know, and you know DoD daily, you know what I'm saying, like all that energy or we're here to drag the police or make them be superheroes or you know, sort of armchair quarterback in a situation. This here is to understand why the hell you hesitated and how stuff like that don't ride where I'm from. But on the other hand, you also know, hey, homey, if you weren't outside with us,

I don't think you can comment about this. Let's get into this, uh elementary school shooting, y'all good politics. H So, as y'all see, I clearly delayed releasing this particular episode because, like I said, it's like, first of all, I have to emotionally process the idea of children being subjugated to something like this, notwithstanding the fact that I noticed was almost a Latino community. It's close to the border that

hits home. Um. Notwithstanding, I'm like watching the sort of the the press conference from the police, and I'm like, Yo, the least you could do was speak Spanish, like, fam that's the least y'all could do for these families. You can't even do a press conference in Spanish, my niggd, Like that's called as ice. And of course I'm watching the zeitgeist about guns and such, just trying to figure out, like what's the angle, what's the basis, like what role

is to the politics play and something like this. So first of all, Yo, nobody should have to live like this. Nobody should go through something like this. You know, we make we make comments and jokes about like and they're not jokes like in some senses, but it's like, yo, it's real in the villa, like if you if you lived in like violent neighborhoods, you know, getting invested stuff where like our stuff gets shot up. You know. We had World on wheels was like a roller skating rink

and then I had to stop going there. I had to go to skate junction out in out in West Kovina. This is like twenty minutes east of minutes east of where World on Wheels was, because I used to always get shot up. You know what I'm saying. This is something that like a child shouldn't have to deal with. The MLK Day parade down in Lamur Park in in south central Los Angeles, the Crunshaw District. We're just stop going because something always went down, you know what I'm saying.

And these are not things that are child should ever have to live with. You know, we live in the inner city. Parents have been burying their children for decades, and even with that being true, it's still not easy. You don't get used to it like the one gets used to that. So out the box, man, it's different. This is different than gang violence because of the the nature of what this is. But losing your baby is losing your baby and being a part of a community

that has to deal with this sort of situation. If you could hear my voice, shake is because this. You know, I never lived through no Sandy Hook. I ain't lived through no Colin bind you know what I'm saying. But I'm a parent back then when those things were happening, I wasn't apparent, you know what I'm saying, Like I was, I mean Colin Bining, Like it's still like around high school. Ay it was maybe nine and you know what I'm saying,

Well out of high school then you know. But like this and stuff is wild to have to live with. So first of all, you know, again I know how many weeks out this pot is about that, But like this stuff stick with you, hommy, Like when you go through stuff like this, it is mugs stick with you. Now, having said that, here's what I find that needs a little,

a little explaining, little little little hood. It's auso. If there's one thing you know, if you are a civilian or you active, if you active as meant like gang banger, gang affiliation, if you bout that life, if you in the field, if you outside, you in the field, whatever slang you're using, you know what I'm saying. If you go up to the function and you gotta stick on you you pull the stick out, you better be prepared to use it. You don't think twice. If you pull

out on somebody, you listen. You have to use your stick. You can't have it on you and pull it without the wherewithal that this is pulled to be used. Maybe it's a deterrent, maybe you could stop somebody from pulling theirs. But you have the thought has to cross your mind and you have to reckon with the reality of you. Ask anybody in the field they have reckoned with the reality of already settled that I might not make it hone to night. They didn't know. It's already in their head.

And a lot of them, dudes, which is the sad part about it. In in their mind they like, I'm already on borroad time. I should have died a long time ago. I should have died in a shootout last week, you know what I'm saying. Like they don't already reckoned with their morality or non morality. Wow, they didn't already reckon. Well maybe with their morality maybe that was Freddy and I don't know, but they don't record with their mortalenty already that's already a settled I'm gonna die out here.

Studies show that like, even even if you get out of gang life, if you stay there, like most likely you're gonna die within a ten mile radius or where you were from. Nipsey used to say that all time. He's like, I'm gonna die out here. I'm gonna die over here, partially because of his commitment to not leave. But it's like, yo, this is my hood. If you if you got me, you got me. But I ain't running. I ain't running in my own hood. They like, if

you pull your strap, you using it. Also there's an understanding of like, you know what you signed up for, you know in in in my story, I have a song which maybe I'll link it in the show not It's a song called We Was Only ten. It's on

the people EPs ex streaming. It's you can me and Dj Mosky you cook it up And I tell the story of really my first interaction with like real you know, sort of guns and like crip recruitment, and it was really accidental, you know, I was, but but it made it very clear to me, like that these other little ten eleven twelve year old boys, because we was all just you know, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve years old, it was clear to me that they knew what they

were signing up four And once it became clear that that's what was happening, that this wasn't just me trying to kick it with the homies and it's trying to be cool because I don't want them to think I'm a punk. It was like, oh, we could die. So the story for me took place on the east side of South Central. I know, I say a lot of specifically l a stuff, but that's why y'all love me. Right east side of South Central. It's between when my grandmother lived on seventy three uh in San Pedro, between

Florence and Maine. Now shoelaces. If you bought my book Terraform, you know the shoelaces was blue over there unless you go four blocks down to which shoelaces were read and then four mode blocks down to which they were blew again. It's crazy. Anyway, down the street from my grandmother's house was my uncle by marriages family, and we should call him my dear right and um my uncle's uncle Sonny, you know, God rest his saul. And but across the street from them were some boys who they had the

better Nintendo games, you know what I'm saying. They used to like, you know, had the boxing gloves out in the yard. We was l a kids, you know, And for me, I felt like I could free rein, run down, running up and down the street because I essentially had two grandmothers like on the opposite ends of the block. So like this was I mean, this was such a

little safe an over here. When you're on a block like that and you're that young and this is just my grandma's house, you don't think about gang life yet. You're not thinking about how it's just just unaware, like you're just and it's not it's not unaware in a sense of like naive, it's just innocent. We're just kids. You know. There were kids that, like your grandma said, don't play with them, like you know, you're not allowed to play with them. They you know, they're not raised right,

they're bad little kids. And then there's kids that you look, there's nowhere in the world y'all didn't know somebody that felt like, I don't know, man, I just don't feel safe around this food. Like when you was kids, you couldn't put your finger on but you were just like, man, I don't know, man, some you know what I'm saying, Man,

I don't know if I should play with them. So we had we had that on our street too, So there was kids across the street, and I remember specifically my cousins, some of my older cousins being like, basically without saying it, like yo, don't go over there, like essentially like, man, you know this, this your grandma and them. You don't live on this street. That's just your grandma on them and you don't know them, and you're not built for this. I was like, we're just playing Nintendo,

you know, and they were cool, it's fun. Everybody over there a grandma house. They all older than me. Like I'm one of the younger. I'm on the younger side. And my cousins so like everybody older than me, Like I just got drinking. I'm like, man, I'm I'm just gonna go over there and go play. So we're playing Nintendo, you know, slap boxing outside, putting the box and things, and then they decide they're gonna go to the Golden Ox to get some fries. They used to call it

the Ox. I understand what he was saying at first when he said the Ox, and I was like, we're going to wear He was like ox. I was like where He's like Golden Ox to get some fries. I was like, oh yeah. So I'm looking back across the street and there was a golden ox. So, first of all, I'm looking back across the street at my family function and they're chilling, and I just remember somebody looking across

the street basically like Jason, what is you doing? Y'all know my birth name is Jason, Like what what is you doing? And me just trying to be cool. So, you know, there was an alleyway right behind this golden ox. It's on Florence and Maine. Uh again, east side of South Central were still there, which is like pretty crazy. The gay the alleyway. You know, it's caged off now, but like it comes a little lack click in the alleyway.

Here comes to lack click clack. Popped the trunk. And then I started realizing as they politicking all the little cause cause b block lock started happening, and then the tools starts showing up, you know what I mean by the tools, you know, And at that point, I'm like, oh, this is really. Like like I said before, I'm like, oh, this is real. You know, I should man, wait a minute,

I don't know if I'm ready for this. And like at that point, I was like, see this why everybody kept looking at me across the street like hey, you know what I'm saying. I was like, oh this, and I remember having I remember making that decision that day, like yeah, let me go ahead and uh, let me go ahead and fall back. There's a thing that people reference, at least in the streets, at least in the generation

before me. Like a lot of young dudes they ain't never seen the movie, but but the dudes above me referenced the nineties movie Boys in the Hood, because I think of a lot of the gangster movies that were kind of happening around this time. John Singleton, who was clearly from South Central like captured a very special like specificity about what it was like to be in South Central and an extension California as a whole or l

A as a whole in its surrounding areas. Because you could you could uproot this story and in at least it's the high points of it, and you could place this in Filipino community to places Latino communities. The high

points of it. There are let me not say it's all the same thing, but there are there are specific notes, and those notes are captured in the relationship between dough Boy and Trey and dough Boy is ice Cube, These dough Boys played by ice Cube and Trades played by Cuba Gooden Jr. Right, and when it was time to

go ride, right we like again. A game references this moment too in his Drink Champs episode when it was time to go ride, when it was time to go shoot up a situation to go blast out the window, like it's time to go do some murdering. Trey was angry and was in the whip with him, but then had a moment where he was like, yo, let me out, and the whole and the whole rest of the car looked at him like, really need to get you fi get out. Dough boys stayed in the car, Trey got

out the car. Now they brothers, they both same hood, same neighborhood, They family like this, They raised in the same space, same thing. It's the same. Nobody questioning if Trey really from here, but Tray go off to college. Dough boy dies, I mean, if if there's a statute of limitations on spoilers. But the point is it's the picture of whether you gang banging or you just affiliated. You a civilian or you're a soldier, and that's the difference.

Some people stay in the car and it's gonna die out here because we know what we signed up for. Is the is they attitude? Others are like Tray that's like this is my family to sit. But like, listen, I'm not made for this, and you gotta make the call to get out the car because if you stay in the car, you have to shoot because you know what you signed up for. You don't think twice right.

Game makes an example of that's the difference between him and Kendrick because he's like they're actually very similar in the way that they're in their tastes and what they like. It's just the difference is I stayed in the car. Kendrick has sense enough to get out the car, you know, because you used to think that staying in the car was like that's real nigga ship, Like that's you're real man, If you're real nigg if you stay in the car, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's really you out

here in the field, like you really. If you stay in the car, you you fake and you fraudulent if you get out and now Game is like, damn, I'm in my forties now, so maybe I should have got out of the car. It's it's crazy right you because you like, man, I don't know if this was the right thing to do. It's what I knew. It's like

at that point, it's too late. Like I know a lot of gang intervention people I I that was like serving in our communities was like even way out of the I e. Because whatever the reason was, they was out there trying to you know, look out for us too. The attitude was, look, it's too late for me. Don't don't make the same mistakes I did. I know what I signed up for. If you got a chance to get out the car, get out the car like people think. People think that, like you know, gang recruitment is like

equal opportunity. A lot of these ogs were at least around my age. They knew what they was looking for because they life on the line too. I can't have you if I'm if I'm gonna put you, if I'm gonna put you on. That's part of the jumping in thing, like it's the pain you experience. But if I'm gonna put you on, I need to know you're not gonna think twice as you are as you a writer or not. That's why you asked. You're gonna ride or die? Like you gotta know what it is. You know what I'm saying.

Like you in your apartment building, you got you got ten guns to this apartment, to this building. I need to know if it go down, you know where them guns are and when you and when I put it in your hand. You ain't gonna think twice. Y'all know what you signed up for, you either tray or dough boy, and it's and it's on us, and it's on the hood to make sure in active situations that you're ready.

If not d P DP is disciplined, you get d P. If you're messing up a bag or like you thought twice when it was time to go down, are you gonna get DP? What does that mean? That means them dudes fnna beat the mess out. They're gonna beat the brakes off you because you still hood, it's still you, still family, But they're gonna beat the brakes off you.

You're gonna be walking around just as sore as the ops ain't gonna kill you, but they're gonna beat the brakes off you, just to teach you you don't think twice, you put all our lives in danger. But on the other hand, we're still talking about human beings. I don't care how hard this person say, how hard they say they are. When guns is flying, when the bullets is flying and you don't know where the direction they're coming from,

you don't think twice. It's scary. I don't know if you've ever been in a shootout situation, whether you was innocent bystander or you just happen to hear from far away. Hell, you can hear guns from two blocks away, and it's scary, Like don't like like, don't let nobody lie to you that adrenaline Some people are just adrenaline junkies. It's scary. You like this not It's like, don't you your instincts are gonna click in. It's scary, But what did you

sign up for? Right? And then on the other hand, there's a a type of training that like, well, nobody wants innocent people to die, so you don't just don't start spraying back. You gotta know who your op is, what the situation is. And I mean nobody wants you know, little Kayla who just happened to be playing outside nobody wants unless stay crazy. Nobody wants the baby to die. So sometimes you gotta like wait, regroup. You can't just shoot at everybody, like hold on, wait, wait a second, man,

take do a little recon Like think this through. You know what I'm saying. You're walk into a party. You don't know what everybody got, even if it's a hospital. You can't walk in here just stacking like I don't care how many of y'all got in here, Like nah, homie, you don't know what they got. You don't know, you don't know what. You don't know what they are. You don't know how they're gonna respond. You don't know that.

You don't make no assumptions about foods like so like look some sometimes you fall back for tactical reasons because I don't look, I don't know what he got on him. I don't know who in this room, know who what? I don't know. So don't just walk in man, you can get like I said, you know you maybe you may have seen the enemy. You're ready to go ride on them, yn't and like you don't know, like you don't know how many guns they got in there in

that apartment building. You may only have like four five burnard stats and the bushes here thing's got twenty thirty guns. You don't know that. Now wait a second, Now, all this is me talking out my neck. You know why, because I ain't signed up for it. I got out the car. That's why I don't know what I'm talking about. So if you ask me if I'm hesitate NIGGI yeah,

because I ain't signed up for that. But if it came to my children, I don't know if there's anything, and I mean, ain't nothing gonna stop me kind to my children. Let me tell this story. We used to live in Long Beach and there was one night our house used to our our little apartment used to the back entrance was like an alleyway, you know in our and me and my wife's bedroom window kind of faced the alleyway. It was a great view of the alleyway

in the trash cans anyway. You know, one night, I'm dozing off and we hear You always hear people in the alleyway, you know, cars, tweakers, whatever the case. Maybe you just hear them all the time. And then one day in the you know, out of a cold sleep, I could hear what sounded like somebody trying to get into our gate from the alleyway into like into our living space rather than just passing by, so he was trying to get in. My eyes popped open cold sleep.

My wife said, Babe, now you know that pile of clothes that's next to the bed that a lot of times I don't know. I guess I'm making assist gender joke here, but like heterosexual couple sist gender heterosexual couple joke. But that pile of clothes that's on the side of the bed that men always have, the clothes that are in between dirty and clean, where it's like it's not really ready for the hamper yet, I could probably wear

it again. Or it's the parasuetes that you was trying to sleep in but it got too hot so you just put them on the side of the bed. Ultimately, that pile of clothes is the babe, did you hear that pile of clothes or the can you go get me some water? Pile of clothes? At at some point, yo, booths ain't gonna send you outside to something. What I don't want to be is outside in the alley way standing over a dead body in Madrals. I'm not trying to be on the news talking about this with self

defense in Madrals. So there's a pile of closed next to my bed, just in case my wife sents me to do something. So anyway, Babe, I pop up and I probably physically can't do this again. But my side of the bed was towards the wall, and her side of the bed was, you know, towards the door to get out, And somehow another in one movement, I was able to push my body up and jump over her, get my sweats on, get into the kitchen to the like weapons area, grab a knife, and I was outside

in the alley. And somewhere in between that, I shut and locked my wife's door and my child's door, my daughter's door to their bedroom. And I don't remember how I did all that. It was like you just your lizard brain clicks in and it's just go time. All I could think about is you gonna have to kill me before you get to my family. I'm either going to jail or the hospital. But you're not getting in this don't. You're not getting in this house. It was

just that simple to me. Praise the Lord. Was nobody outside and once I came to and I realized, like, damn, Mo'm minute like this. White dudes be on the news with no shirt on yo, saying I have my sweat but I hain't no shirt and I'm railed thin. But all I was like this out this out of memes happen because we heard it say on in the middle of the night, and it was like, go time, family. I'm like, y'all if I'm lying, I'm flying. I don't remember. It was like I blacked out, like I really it

all felt like one fluid movement. It was like flow state, like I can't explain in All I could think about was there's gonna be a murder tonight. It's either him or me. It's them or me. It's just what's not going to happen. You are not getting in this house. You are not going to hurt my family. It's just look like I said, I probably I don't. I couldn't replicate that. I can't bring that. I just can't bring

that type of energy to force at any moment. I just thought my children were in danger and there's just there's just there's nothing. You're ain't no way, That's all I'm saying. Ain't no way, it's just nothing to do it now, active shooter situation. You're on the special duty of protecting elementary school kids. And as the story has developed, we've been learning and trying to understand how all of this transpired. You know, it's a town of like sixty

six thousand people, like there's there's barely anyone there. It's a small, tiny Latino town with an even tinier police force, and you in probably the scariest situation of your life. Now, I started looking for people who were in special forces, tactical units, or signed up for this special type of school police protection, which really only existed after post Columbine, you know, and that was something we ain't ever seen nothing like that, like an active mass shooter situation in

a school. Schools used to not have forces that were specifically for that. Before that, you were supposed to wait for the experts, you know, you you yeah, you don't go in because we never seen nothing like that, Like you wait for the experts. After this, it was like, after this, you know, we started having these rise of these active gunmen's, these shooters school shooting situations. No, you you need to take the you need to take the

danger out immediately. You gotta subdue the the target immediately. And there's no thinking like I need to stop who who to shoot or find him? Shoot him? Ended? And I think about end it now, you know what I'm saying. But it didn't used to be like that. Now you're in a tiny town near a Texas border. This is the last thing on your mind. Family. You've been writing tickets, you've been like being deporters, you know what I'm saying.

Just you ain't like you know you like you haven't you know, doing domestic violence calls like you ain't had no situation like this. But if you but once you start talking to like you know, special forces, taxing people like I saw this video on on what is that thing called Twitter? I'm tired, y'all. And the gentleman was calmly explaining, Hey man, you have to understand that if you sign up to protect people's babies, don't nobody care whether you make it home or not. That's stay babies.

And if that's a thing for you, then this may be not the job. Like if you if you're trying to preserve your own life, you have you this isn't the field. No one is concerned about your life. And I was like, yo, he Cutt't it real clean for that? That's kind of true. Man, Like when we're thinking about the police response, which we're getting to when it was when the when the cops was like, yo, well we might get shot too. That's why we didn't go in.

It's like, don't mind it. Why whether you live or not, anybody worried about the fireman give burnt you both. That's your job. You go in there and put the fire out again. You know what you signed up for. So this is what he trying it. So this so this this technical unit dude that I saw twitter that I'm horribly I should have more evidence it is, but his own their problems. He was like, listen, maybe this isn't a job for you, and that's fine. And that's that's

why I think people need to understand. It's fine if you, like, if you're still trying to believe this like superhero, like you're all John McClain, Like all cops are John McClain. You know what I'm saying. That's a die hard reference that all cops. And he's just like hero, you know, just crime fighters, like all of your Avengers. Then yeah, then you can't bitch up in a situation like this, or maybe you're not, and listen, it's fine. Just don't sign up for the type of position that you can't

but then just just betrayed. It's fine, Just get out the car because you like this ain't the world for you. And don't ask for billions of dollars for no tanks and like army grade weapons. If when you had the chance to use your weapons, you don't use them. You got to know what you signed up for. And don't

nobody care whether you come home or not. We're talking about their children, and as and as the story is progressed, that's rain true about children, about your kids too, because not only were the police having a restraint of parents, some of them parents got away and went and got their babies. Ain't none of y'all. You're not listen to me. Listen to me. You're not gonna stop me from getting my baby. I die in there. You're not gonna stop me from getting my baby. And then when the cops

finally went in, guess what they did. A couple of them when got their babies, Like I just okay, that's I mean, it's huteman. Have you just I'm saying, at that point, your lizard brain took over. I don't care how much you've been trained. The ship is scary. Your lizard brain gonna take over. Just don't act like you an avenger because you're not. And so and in my

position is this Wait, let me back up. The story I'm covering was how the local police hesitated and then some of them waited for and then they waited for like the specialist to get there before they breached the school to go apprehend this kid that was, you know, shooting up in the meantime, like and not only that, like Homie was outside the school. He's running around to see and shot at his grandma, crashed his car. Was like shooting outside the school, then went in the school

started shooting the popo just around now. I'm trying to paint this picture to give some color to what the popo was doing. And if you haven't followed me, so, if you haven't figured out what I'm trying to do here is I'm actually humanizing the police here too. What I'm trying to say is shit is scary, right, But on the other hand, you stayed in the car with dough Boy. But on the other hand, when you was in that alleyway between Florence and Maine, you could have

turned around just like me. Not only you kept going. I know it's scary, but this is what you signed up for. So they didn't go in. They waited, and as the story started going coming forward, like, yo, I thought that wasn't protocol, Like why did y'all wait in? Their answer got everybody riled up, And I want you to listen to this answer and follow me on this. The answer us look at we didn't even know where

the bullets was coming from. And when they stopped shooting, he said that for a second there, we thought it went from an active shooter to a barricade situation. And if it's a barricade situation, then yeah, you need some tactics, you need some strategy. So on one hand, you could make the descendant and look, and this is what they're trying to say. It sounds awful when they're like, well, if we had just went in, man, we would have

got shot and we could have died too. I know it seems crazy, but like I mean, we could have shot too, and all of us went chick rocks. Their argument is, well, if we go down, then there's no hope what y'all gonna do if we go down. So we need to make sure that we're good too. We're trying to preserve life. But like all want my officers to die. Either. The problem is, don't nobody care about your life? Right now? Our children are in there, nicky,

you signed up to watch our children. I'm my my brain look, my brain went back to the lizard thing. Somebody need to go in there and get my kids. And if you ain't gonna go, I'm gonna go. Make give me that gun. Like listen, you're gonna be an alleyway like problem. Either they're dying, I'm dying. Let me tell you what's not gonna happen. Not gonna You're not gonna get my children, but showing up nineteen nineteen folks,

nineteen babies. All that to say this, when you look at the police decision, and now you know as of today it's may, it's being investigated. Like the governor Abbott, you know, for what he's worth. He's like, man, what wait, y'all wait what? And the police chief in the place was like, yo, we got the benefit of hindsight now, like damn that was not a good idea. Sometimes you take else you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna give him that. He's like, damn, yeah now it sounds

stupid now. It sounds stupid now. But Yo, at the time we thought this was the right thing to do. Maybe or maybe y'all was scared, you know, And if you're scared, go to church, just like this ship you signed up for. That's why, ain't nobody got mercy for you? And on top of that, it's our children, and it might be a whole lot of reasons why tactically speaking, you should take a beat to figure out what you're doing. I'm just like, look, man, y'all signed up to be

dough boy. You post to protect my children nineteen on. Yo, watch now listen. If you got a conscious that stuff weigh heavy on you. I don't think it's any officer in that tiny town that that ain't wearing heavy on you know. We see the uh you know, the political stuff. I noticed because I know if O. G has lived long enough, they carry a lot of PTSD and regret around some of the lives they've taken. It's like, no, we did, we had to do. I get it. You

know what I'm saying. It was their life over mind. I made a decision. But this and ship humm me, it keeps it keep them up at night. And especially if you ever did time, Like unless you just a straight sociopath, you did time. Man, You're like, yeah, I'm haunted by this stuff, man, like you're sitting in that

sale by yourself. I mean, it is scary, man, And it's already it's already traumatic because you know, especially like if it was a shootout situation, like I'm talking gang stuff, it was shootout situation, like you your life flash before your eyes too. Don't let nobody a lie to you. You don't get used to that, you know. But I know it's police right now, who's like getting night terrors? They know the nineteen kids was on. They watch you. You think they don't regret that pause. You think they

don't regret that, I bet you they do. I think some of them didn't know what they signed up for. I think some of them did. I think some of them just didn't never expect that this was gonna go down. Now, there might be levels of racism to it. I don't know, that's not I don't know that's not a not a story I'm seeing. The most racist thing I've been seeing was the fact that like y'all can't even talk to these families in Spanish. It's like you don't even care fan.

You know what I'm saying from what I understand. You know this city is notorious for like gunning for deportation. I don't know if they held off because it was brown kids. I know that like a lot of uh the police force was brown kids. But power is the hell of a drug. Don't you get into a system, you start thinking you better than the other ones. Now,

I don't know that's the situation. I know it's real in the field, though, I also know listen, when you sign up this, look, that's just how this is just how it go. Fam You signed up for this, and you know what I'm saying, it's par for the course. When you if you pull, if you look, you gotta bust, you gotta shoot, it sucks. And if you nod down the shoot, then don't sign up for it, or don't pretend like you were superhero because you're not. And that's fine,

it's okay if you're not a superhero. Hey, I'm saying, look, police. It's okay if you're not John McClain, it's fine. Just don't don't make us pay you like you are just gonna go be that nobody like false flagging. Why I make it very clear on this show that I do talk a lot of gangster stuff. Why I always have a caveat is because I need people to understand I'm never gonna false flag for you, because I'm okay with who I am. I know, I I know, I ain't that I know niggas that are I know I'm not.

That's fine. I understand them because I had to be around in my whole life. But I ain't been a false flag with y'all. Number one, because real niggas caught me on it. But number two, it just don't do nobody good. So, yeah, you had an active suitor situation and the popo hesitated. Why well, maybe you didn't know what you signed up for or maybe that's it was super scary either way, either you dough boy or trade.

But if if you dough boy, you pull that gun and his lives in danger, I can't be thinking twice on me bood politics. Yeah, this is here thing was recorded by me propaganda in East Lows, Boil Heights, Los Angeles, California. That smug was mixed, edited, mastered, and scored by Matt Ososki. I can totally say his name, guys, it was it was a stick. He's going by Matt now again because he got into some legal situations with the name Headlights.

Y'all know, commen used to be called common sense. You know, Tip t I was tipped Sometimes it happens. Executive produced by the one and only Sophie Lichtman for a Cool Zone Media and the theme music by the one and only Gold Tips Gold Tips d J Shawn p So y'all just remember listen to every time you check in. If you understand city living, you understand politics. We'll see how next week

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