Terraform: Woke AF

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All right, Terrorform, the series we're doing of amazing dope folks doing dope stuff. We got a pod crossover today. I reached out to me from a show called Woke af and I really was like, all right, let me see if she means the actual meaning of woke or.

Some sort of gentrifieder.

So I listened to a few episodes and was like, oh no, Danielle ain't playing this is the correct meaning of what. So we did this crossover episode. This is part of the Terrorform series of people actually putting out dope stuff.

She's not playing around. She has.

In a lot of ways the same desires we do with the politics. So we essentially interviewed each other and are bringing our audiences.

To each other.

So this is a crossover episode. It's in their feed too for wo KF Daily.

All right, Okay, I forgot.

I was supposed to be doing this all year, but I just wasn't consistent about the look. It's like this episode where I try to keep up with what's happening currently, even though the podcast recordings are kind of banked. So bringing this part back, my bad. What looks like this cue to music.

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Okay, So this week, y'all, it's so much happened, and it's happening. Let's do the messy stuff. I can't believe CNN was being so messy. CNN out here looking like the shade room. They got the video of p Diddy whooping homegirl tale Like, Okay, I'm joking about the fact that it's on CNN.

What happened is not a joke.

If we talked about this when the year started, right that Diddy, y'all, Houston been raided, right his ex girl brought allegations against him for abuse, you know, sexual is It's like his sexual prowess has became a meme. Like now it's no Diddy rather than Sam pause, which is quite homophobic.

Point is he done so? Right now?

He was denying all the stuff categorically false, and then apparently he had paid fifty k to this hotel to make sure that this video don't come out.

Video come out.

This man in his towel doing diabolical nasty work. She trying to lead, She's basically she's trying to leave this hotel room she's at the elevator. This man with the towel wrapped around his waist grabs her by the head and throws her down, kicks her while she's down. I like, I won't add any extra commentary to it, because it's obvious what's going on here. Video comes out, He goes on his TikTok on some like y'all, darkest moment in my life, the wrongest thing I've ever done. I make

I was wrong.

I take full responsibility, and think whatever you want about that, we shall soon see. I just I can't imagine ever being mad at anyone that much love, let alone a female at all. Now, maybe there's parts of you know, misogyny or patriarchy that I still carry. I just can't imagine any scenario where I will ever put my hands on a girl. There are times, like I would say, short of hurting my children, I would stop you from hurting my children. But like, but this right here is

All right. I'll do some commentary on this later in a full episode.

Next, Marjorie Taylor Green messed around and found out you done popped off at you got the right one. This time you popped off at the wrong system.

See.

So, Marjorie Taylor Green was popping off in one of the Senate hearings, just mouthing off, mouthing off, and then she made a comment about Congresswoman Jasmine Why am I blanking on that? Oh Jasmine Crockett. So she popped off in her AOC jumped in as black and Brown unity is supposed to be to be like, yo, you super out of pocket talking about homegirls eyelashes. How dare you come at somebody's like physical appearance when we're trying to

Just listen.

You gotta understand, we've been clapping back since we were children, Like we know how to There's nothing you can say to us. Black people know how to clap back at all time. We were trained in the asylum that is our families. You do not understand how good we are at clapping back. That's what we do. Don't try to pop off. Listen, you gonna You're gonna get cooked. That's what we do. Jasmine cook that girl, she said, I

Now listen very carefully.

That is not an accusation of genocide, because genocide, like we say said in the you wasn't outside, but South Africa was episode. Genocide has a very specific definition that has to do with intent. You're listening and that claim or or even if it was an active genocide that would be towards the state, you would be bringing that claim against the State of Israel. This particular thing is an arrest for the person of Nets and Yahoo.

You have committed these.

Now there are other cabinet members right now that's like yo, which we're gonna do a whole episode on that's like, look, if you don't change, if you don't change your ways, I'm stepping down. You have no exit strategy for this, you have no there's no plan for after the bomb stopped, Like, what are you gonna do? How are you gonna rebuild? You have nothing. You have no plans for this, bbe. This is just all destruction. You're all gas, no breaks, Like, what are we doing?

Bro? This is absurd.

So there's like a split even among the Israeli government that like everybody don't agree, which should for some of us feel good to hear that they not united as a government in what they're doing. Give us some little bit of hope that, like, everybody ain't crazy over there, which we should have.

Known, because it's just like America, everybody ain't crazy. We all wouldn't.

We all wouldn't for everything we've done right, And it's just good to know that every nation is like that. Everybody ain't nobody really be on one accord out this mud. Also, the president and Foreign Minister of Iran died in a helicopter crash. Bro, this is big. Now, he is not the Supreme Leader. That's the Ayatola. Now that man is still alive, right, and again Iran is ran by the Islamic Republic, which now listen, just I said this before, just because it's called.

Islamic, don't mean that it is.

You could call you name something whatever you want to name it, right, but this is a remarkably repressive regime, like, let's.

Not forget that.

And this man that just passed away they used to call him to he was he was a government lawyer right for years. He was really next in line to possibly be the Supreme leader. Was known for his viciousness, like Bruh bro was putting fools to death all the time.

And then Bruh was a very very very very.

Integral in sisterhood that died over the job from the morality police that the Irani government has, like he played a big role in that. So whether there's love loss about this man particularly, I'm not Iranian. I don't talk out my neck about stuff. I don't know, but I will say that this is going to have huge international like huge, huge international implications. Hamas jumped out and was just like, look, dude, y'all were sorry to hear man

Beloved and Lebanon, like we all know these things.

So like this dude is like particularly a shot caller and he's one of the or he's the highest elected.

Official in Iran.

Like not again, nobody, because this is a cleric ran government in country. You not the full head honcho. The full head honcho is the ayatola, right, this brother is not.

But he was next in line.

His helicopter went down like Kobe's did in the fall twelve other people. There's like zero survivors, big dog zero wild and lastly, were watching the conclusion of Trump's Push money trial. Now the question is Trump gonna get on the stand?

Now?

Anybody who understands the law at all would be like, that would be.

The dumbest thing you could possibly do.

Now, Have you and I have any experience with Donald Trump? And whether something is dumb or not don't really matter at all. Has that man not got away with some of the most outlandish, gravity defying things? Absolutely, So who knows what they're gonna do. I just know that Michael Cohen stuff is done. The defense's job was to make sure that this man seems like a slide ball. The prosecution was like, we know he's a sliine ball. That's why he was able to work for Trump. We know

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Folks super excited to be doing a crossover episode with a fellow iHeart podcaster, a fellow politico, Jason Petty aka Propaganda, who is the host of Hood Politics. I love what you say under the description of the show, which is basically like, you know, if you've ever been in a gang, if you've ever like been in the street, if you know anything about that, then you know politics. And I think that that for me, I was just like, oh,

Yeah, dude, then first of all, thank you for reaching out and making this happen. Yeah, Like, whether it's like you were in a gang or you ran from them, you know, the interactions, the ways for which you had to learn to navigate just to survive the world that we're in is like like you said, like we're made to feel like we don't know what we're talking about. And the more that I became more formally educated, the more I was like, man, a lot of this, Like I know a lot of this already, you.

Know what I mean.

I just didn't.

I didn't know these words or these terms, you know, right. And then when I before I was doing like music and podcasts and stuff, like before I was doing that full time, I was teaching high school, I was teaching at juvenile halls. And so if you're teaching a juvie like I mean, if anything, it's like I'm just trying to figure out how to keep y'all engaged, you know. And so as I was finding I was like, man,

You know what I mean?

Like you actually you know the streets better than the rest of us, you know what I'm saying. Like we talk a lot about like like I explained the difference between like real political power and like astro turfing. You know, I already know, like you know, your uncle, your auntie and them could send out a text be like, Hey, we're gonna be at the park on Saturday. You got fifty people there. Like that's real power, you know what

Yeah, I think that that's right.

And I also think that the narrative around politics has been set up in a way to make people feel like no, no, no, you go ahead and vote in these these presentatives, right who who know more, who are who are smarter than you, who will figure things out so that you don't have to bother yourself with them or educate yourself in any type of way. I actually put up a post on broke ass Twitter, uh recently because I said that. You know, I I was a

Like clowns, like it is.

It's it's a travesty, right like how how how ignorant they are and how much they are celebrating you know that ignorance, and so it for me, it's like, no, if we were to rename politics, it would be like called you know, your daily life, right like right like if you were to if you were to say, like, it's not politics, it's your da.

You are voting on what your day to day.

Life, your day to day life.

And when it's your day to day life, when you.

See these dudes, like when you see them up close, you're just like, oh, nigga, you're twelve, you're and you're just trying to get put on. So you're saying whatever you need to say.

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So you could stay put on. It's so it's so like you're like, man, that's so true. When you see it up close, and it's like, oh, fam you you didn't. You haven't read any of them.

You haven't read these briefs. Like you didn't, you didn't read it. Like so I'm like, oh, I'm more informed than you are. Yeah. When you when you when it, when you.

See it up close, yeah, it's like the facade falls.

Yeah.

And it's and I think that that's what people and that's why I really like the the onboarding, the opening up that your show is offering, because we need more people, not less, to be involved. And I think that the way that the Republicans their strategy has been, let us just throw a bunch of shit at the wall, let us exhaust as many people as we possibly can.

Let's overwhelm right, this.

System with crazy, and then those that would likely be to tap in will tap out because they just don't have the bandwidth for it.

Yeah, you know.

And so I think that it's I think that it's important one for people to recognize that that's a strategy, the overwhelm, the ignorance that it isn't it isn't just by accident brilliant?

Do you find that like your show has sort of the same kind of like ethoughts, like you're like the point you're trying to make is that like you're smarter than you think you are.

Is that is that kind of interesting?

I listened to a lot of your shows, and it's like, first of all, you're brilliant, Like let me just say that number one, thank.

You very much brilliant.

You know what I mean.

And and I love the like you know part to meet with. Listeners can take this however they want. But like the sound of black women being fully black women is like a warm blanket for me. So to just hear you, just to hear you speak naturally, you know what I'm saying, be like broke ass shit, Like I'm like that's I need that. Yeah, I need that like that Like I'm like, huh, I yes, anyway, go on.

Yeah, I think that for me, WOKF started out the show started out of anger. It was a response to Donald Trump becoming president of the United States. So the show launched in twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen rather And what I will say is that for me, I wanted people to recognize that they have more power than they think, right that this game that these white, old, you know, rich straight men are playing, it is a game about power, and the way that they take power from you is

Like no, no, no, no, no.

You see why your school board looks the way it does, it's because you didn't show up to the school board. Meaning, but you know who always shows up, the seventy year old racist white people that live in your neighborhood. They're the ones that are always going to show up because they have time and they are making and they are

Wake up.

Yeah you I love that you called it well one because like it's before the name was stolen from a.

Fire, right like it was before if it came like.

Yeah, before they stole it and redefined it, which is another thing that they do, which is another like move of power to like take something that sounds familiar and redefine it and then give it back to us as if we don't know what we talk about, you know. So I love that you like kept the name to be like no, no, no, no, no, you don't you don't get it, you don't. I'm not just gonna I'm not just gonna let you have this like nah, yeah, I

You know what I'm saying, Why everybody's it's because it works, like yeah.

Yeah, you know, and that and that's the thing too, is you know I constantly say on the show every time that we're coming up on an election, and all elections, is that no one tries to steal anything that isn't worth something. So if people are trying to steal your vote aka voter suppression, it is because your vote is valuable.

Right.

If people are trying to throw out your ballots, right, it is because your voice is valuable, right, because nobody tries to steal something that is of no value to them.

Man, did you guys have did you guys have the the fake ballot boxes around your way?

No?

No, I live I live in New York. I'm like I live. I live in Brooklyn. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

So we saw him around Kelly, like I'm in LA, like East La, and we saw him. Obviously it was targeted because this is like a black and brown neighborhood, so you would put you would put them over here. But for me, it was so it was funny, like that is so funny to me. How like it's like you have to look at you looking at somebody like, yo, that's your man's like get your man's like word like this is really is this your king?

This is what y'all doing?

Y'all put yeah, yep.

It was funny to me that, like, how man, it's just like like I know, I know clearly, like consistency doesn't matter to these people or how corny you look. But I'm like that is corny, Like there's there is something about I feel like us people of color in general, like we have a code that we live by, and like part of that code is like what I'm not gonna be is corny.

Right, that's corny, you know.

Right because you because you don't have the ability to actually like basically what you're saying is you ain't shit and you actually have to you have to go to these incredible lengths in order to cheat, because if it was just based on merit alone.

Yeah, you you, you would not wish.

And I feel like if we were to if we and I and I say, like, if folks were to talk about the Republican Party in that way and being like they are just objectively corny as fuck, it's just like they just they don't they don't have the swag, they don't have the ability, they don't have the intellect, they don't have the charisma. What they do have an abundance of is hate and the ability to cheat and cheat and do so unchecked, right in a lot of

Is what are you hearing?

Because I hear a mix of I'm gonna vote my values, I'm not, I'm you know, I I you know, and they're saying this now and it's it's you know, we're in February, right, We're still nine months away.

It's still very early.

But but what are you hearing from folks that are that are that are listened to you?

Yeah, I'm hearing, Like you said, I'm hearing a lot like it's kind of.

All over the board.

And what I've noticed is is at least among black people, your socioeconomic status has actually played a bigger deciding factor

And it's like, word whatever, you know what I'm saying.

At least and you don't sound at least you're not talking racists, you know what I'm saying.

Right, So like at least you're not saying it, you know what I mean?

So like stuff be super transactional that I found at the same time, Like, so with that said, like I found we're not very like we're centrist, Like we're not very progressive.

Where it's just like.

I don't know, I don't talk all that all that because my dad was a black Panther. So like, for me, a lot of times, when I start talking like the hummies, it's like.

Oh, here we go.

You know, he on that revolutionary you know what I'm saying. So like there's like that you feel me. And then at the other side, if they are gonna be obviously it's like that it's mask off with the Republicans. So they're like, well, it's mask off with y'all, So like that's like kind of a non starter. But what I found is when you feel like we're not getting back, like we've given the Democratic Party so much and we haven't, we haven't received what you said you was gonna give us.

You want? You want?

You just want money, okay, word me too, you know what I'm saying, right, So, so I found that a lot of times, Like it's like, well, since clearly I don't trust none of y'alls morals anyway, then I'm like, Okay, who gonna get me to the bag faster? It has been what what I have found now to your point as far as age demographic, I feel like Gaza could cost Joe the election.

Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Like even with the stuff that, like cause again it was like you was you was talking talking when we started, you know, and yeah, like I was like, at least you like you could say, well, at least he's not FeelA like bomb somebody to the stone age, you know what I mean. And it's like, well, bro, now you're

Which I just I don't get. I don't get it.

I don't agree. I don't agree, but I get it.

What is the what is it?

Because they recognize that he's a boss, like this is a gangster. They're like, well, you're just I understand this, You're just a gangster. It's like I'm never wrong.

But there's no code, there's no He throws his own fucking clique under the bus. Do you know what I'm saying? Like there's no honor there.

I know, but it's like you niggas should have fell in line. Wow, what I'm saying that?

Like, I get it, Like you supposed to fall in line, Like I told you what we was doing, this was this, This was the system, this what we're doing. You fall in line, you stay loyal.

We good? You know. But I agree too, cause I'm just like I agree too.

Like man, well but like but when it comes down to it, you're gonna let all your boys go to prison for you, Like I don't. I don't understand that. But they're like, bro, it's like mob stuff. That's mob stuff. Like you supposed to be able to you supposed to like if we all if we all own, you're supposed to take your team. You're supposed to take your five ten five ten years. I'm gonna put money on your books and make sure you're family good. I'm gonna put that on.

What he's doing. That's what he's saying.

Like, so I'm saying like if you are, because I and I cannot pretend to know the ins and outs of anybody's of gang life, of street life, of anything. But what I will say, the little the little snippets that I've seen in her, It's like, whether I agree with it or not, there is a code. There is a code of like you protect you protect your own, like this is this is our this is our click,

And I'm just like, so just in that vein right, this man is I agree?

I mean I feel like if you don't, like they're also not I mean it's not like they sitting down and like following all ninety one charges. You know what I'm saying, they just you just know what this dude's putting out, which is like, I'm the boss, Like this is what I do. You know what I mean, and I can and I can get that from I could get it from a cursory standpoint.

And then and then even among that community.

There's diversity of thought. There are dudes that are like, nah, like you said, this man got no honor. Like, you know, the more that you see him up close, you like, this man got no honor. You realize all of its cap Like he's not a millionaire. He's not a billionaire. It's not really his money, you know. But that's the type of stuff that I feel like that's where me and you come in when we sit down and say, now, hold on now, like that's right this because I'm because

Do it with do it with actual information and not just the things that he's putting out. Let me ask you that with this because we're rapping on time. But let me let me close out with this question for you, which is this, you know, we have nine months until the election, if prop if Trump manages to steal this election,

No.

I think I come from.

Like history, social science, like educational background, and when you come from that, it's like I can name off hand ten democracies that collapsed, like it happens all the time. Democracies collapse, you know, and nations collapse and they rebuild.

I think that.

I find that any predictions are usually off the mark in either direction. Like you know, I feel like it's not like the day after he gets elected the world's going to go up in flames, and it's also not like nothing's going to happen, you know what I'm saying. Like, I think that the slow crawl, which clearly started decades ago into the collapse of the American democracy and it'll become something else later. But you know, the idea of an autocratic you know, dictator, which he is, is like

It is what it is.

I don't think people really understand what that means and how it looks, and then how long it's gonna take to if we'll ever become an empire again, you know,

You know what I'm saying.

I think that there is there is that like it ultimately will be fine.

Will we survive it?

I don't know if we're gonna survive correct.

Yeah, you know, but I do think, Yeah, I think that like Trump in the sense again going back to like why like I think hoods does like recognize it is like he's like, I'm gonna do what I said. I'm gonna do, like I told y'all day one, I'm finna black and fools.

Up like that. I don't understand. I told you that's what I was gonna do. And I was like, yes, he did what he said he was gonna do.

You know.

So I think that there's that reality.

I think also think the reality that people are not accepting is the fact that he might win. That is a high possibility that he is, that he will win this election. Now he's I also get frustrated with the fact that people talk like he like y'all forget he

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have loved this conversation so very much. We will have to do more of these as we count down to the election.

Yeah, we're gonna have to.

We're gonna have to do some like reaction pods where like some g did you see this ship?

We absolutely will.

So this is we'll say this is the first installment prop for OOKF and hood politics prop.

Thank you so much, Thank.

You reach out.

Yeah, no, I appreciate, appreciate you everything you're doing, the way you're bringing it like this is dog.

Thank you.

All right, now don't you hit stop on this pod. You better listen to these credits. I need you to finish this thing so I can get the download numbers. Okay, so don't stop it yet, but listen. This was recorded in East Lost Boyle Heights by your Boy Propaganda. Tap in with me at prop hip hop dot com. If you're in the coldbrew coffee we got terraform Coldbrew. You can go there dot com and use promo code hood