Ride or Die with Bambu

you say? La da da da. You already knew. I didn't have to tell you this. Episodes called ride to Die When you won't to ride? Do you want to ride? Do you want to ride? And ride? Die on? I got a Los Angeles and Oakland legend named Bamboo. He's gonna go through our vocabulary list with you, which is ride or die? Block is hot hot head. We're gonna show you how that applies to our Iran situation, how our allies might feel. We're gonna talk about the shooting

down of the Ukrainian flight. This interview with Less Partners where he sings and Lastly, how Mike Pences Takashi six nine. Enjoy, ladies and gentlemen, we want to welcome our second guest. Second person we put on Mr Bamboo da Pistole. Say what's up? Big on? Bamboo is um one of the most talented him sees I've ever known, ever met. He's a record exact business owner, husband, father, activists, just an

incredible dude. Of the many things we have in common, one of those things is he's married to a woman that's way more brilliant than he is, and he's slightly scared of her. He said slightly. That's very generous. It's okay, I'm a little scared of my wife, like actually the highest of Keith. You know that makes for success, right, Yes, yes, that's how you have a healthy marriage. You gotta be a little scared of your wife. Yeah. Anyway, So let's

let's get to it this episode called Rider Die. As we start, as the tradition is, we're gonna ask a few vocabulary questions, just let him share some stories, and then we'll go into what's happening in our politics. So first, rid Er Die Bam from historic Filipino town, Right, that's the neighborhood considered. Uh I can I call home now? You know what I mean? Like that I'm an adopted son of Okay, okay, that makes sense. Oh yeah, because use more from like south central South ninth place in Maine.

Yeah yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, So ride or die? What does that mean? Oh that's a heavy one. It's a heavy one, you know, Like, uh, my generation kind of coined that term, and that was you know, the rider dive really comes from drive bys. If in my own recollection, like the only time I used to hear that was like you ready to ride, like you know, Ryan wasn't just getting in the car. It was like we're about to go do some dirt, you know what

I mean. It was one of them like you know, you when you leave this house and you go ride, you ride with your people. Like the loyalty matters because you know something about to go down, right, guys, I mean means so many things, but yeah, follow them. It's

about loyalty. At the end of the day. It's like it's us over everything here because I'm here the only way I'm out as if I'm dying, yeah, which which is a code that you know a lot of us have have lived lived by, you know, sometimes in the streets, and what's delp is like if you get to grow up and actually graduate out of that. A lot of times we apply that to like our businesses, you know,

our families. You know what I'm saying. Um, I like that you say graduated from me too, It's not you know, the term survive is a term that's used and then you need to survive this, and that's cool, you know, but really this was our schooling, you know what I mean. I can survive in this world because of the subculture of gang banging and because like I carry those those small lessons from my ogs to this day, you know what I mean. Period, even when it comes to organizing people,

you know, like, oh you organize now, you're square. You know you're not, you know with the set you're not. No, I'm actually banging hard now, like I'm hard. Yeah, I'm banging against like people we were unwilling to bang against. Listen, police show up to my neighborhood with a shotgun and to nine millimeters. We got tech nines in the bushes because right we got a k I guess what we're running when they show up in that crazy. That power

dynamic is what I'm fighting. And so when I told her homies like you know, I'm banging with you know when it comes to my ideals, man shifted a little bit. But but the fervor in my in my work hasn't changed. It's it's all from games all. You know what I mean? Absolutely, I said, Oh man, thanks for adding that. So in scenarios, people loyal to these the streets you was from a lot of times. One of them kids and I know my I know his name and my hood that we

would call a hothead. And like you tell the people what we mean when we say this person is a hothead. Man, this is the dude who he's the He's the first to jump up and ask somebody whether they're from ho Yes, you know. He was always ready to uh you know, get down and stripes for the neighborhood. Always. And that was my all three of my first cousins who were

all murdered, they were all hot heads. And yeah, yep, yep, that's what yeah, I know came came in when when you said that, you know, I got y yes again. I want to remind the listeners that like bam came in cold. He didn't know what I was gonna ask him, Like I did, give no prep. These are just things that we know just from our environments, you know what

I'm saying. So, yeah, there's hot heads, and I know these hot heads like it's one of the one of the things that they've always been able to do because of our rider die attitude was almost like convince us that this dude pops up, you know what I'm saying, like her check, somebody bangs on somebody and then the dude and then the dude responds all of a sudden, this hot head boy goes, hey, that guy's disrespecting us. It's like family with me us. I was just eating yeah,

like you know. And and but because of like our attitude about like how our streets work, it's like, well, I mean, I guess, but damn fool like you saying I'm gonna get up and do it, but I'm gonna yell at you after to tell you, man, you you shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done that, you know what I'm saying now. So So anyway, so these both of these situations oftentimes turned into something that like I feel like this was a phrase that was a

little before my time, but we adopted it. Was like we say, like the block is hot, you know what I'm saying, Which if I ran into you and you was like and Brandon the band was like Bam was like, hey, hey, probably what you what you're doing is what you're doing this weekend, And I'm like, uh, man, I'll probably go down to you. I'm saying, I'll go down to business cousins and content, you know kind of hang band would be like, hey, be careful though it's hot down there.

Tell them what you wanted me about. I wanted you that maybe uh, our neighborhood had gotten to a fund with their neighborhood's happened over the weekend. You might not know about. Yes, you're gonna step on that set and they might check you and want to claim. You know, because that's what you do. You you never backed down. You know, wherever you are, you can be a magic Mountains. Somebody said where you're from, you better say it, you know. Um,

that's that's part of being in the gang. So I'm telling you that when you go down there and you claim on wherever it is, you can't you know, Yeah, it's maybe maybe you should stay indoors. Yes, so here's so, here's our terms again. We got rid or died, we got hot, here got block, block is hot. Now tell me stories. Man, have you ever been pushed into like now you have because you wrapped about it on a few albums, but maybe tell you know without naming names,

because we're not trying to get inbody each other. But like the moments you've been pushed into fights you didn't ask for it. I mean there's so many, right, I mean I got I got pushed into getting jumped into the neighborhood there we get started there like a couple of my my friends were getting jumped in and I was young. I was like twelve. My uncle's drunk, you know, and and it was like you gotta be down, and they was pushing and pushing and pushing, I mean literally pushing,

like getting that circle. We're about to get this thing popping. So that was the first time I ever got to something. And then when we talk about hot heads, you know, I got a cousin and I'll say his name, and my cousin, Ronnie. If you listen to this, I'm putting you out there definitely, you know, he's definitely got me into something. And quite opposite of telling me the block is how he wouldn't say nothing. He would just be like, Hey, we're gonna ride and then we see somebody and and

his whole mood change, like, what's up? I got it? I got into it that dude so and so and so I'm like, damning know what I'm saying. So, you know, I mean, I got a bunch of stories like that, but that that's the one that stands out to you. I got pushed into getting put on the hood, you know.

So when I was fourteen, I got jumped in again just because you know, at the time of twelve was you know, I didn't, I didn't I got my cigarette Bernard for that was the first incident I can remember where it was a combination of peer pressure and the O g's kind of pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah, I'm just now like telling some stories that I didn't realize the reason that I actually blocked out. I just didn't. I didn't think about it, you know what I'm saying.

You know, we were from at least my grandmother was on seventy third in San Petro, who was on the east side of South Central you know what I'm saying, the east of the one tin between Yeah, so between like Florence and Maine. Uh yeah, Florence and with Florence, Maine with a cross streets, but it was between San Pedro in Maine, between Florence Engage, you know what I mean. So once one blocks out the Laws one block north

to Manchester, So that's my granny's family was from. I specifically remember a day like there was these twins that lived across the street from me, and in like a few few houses down was just some other boys that were like lived across this essentially my grandmother and my aunt's husband's family so like her, so basically her in laws lived on the same block. They were both on seventy third. So both sides of my family were on

seventy three, right, one family by marriage, the other by blood. Right. So anyway, um, so we were on seventy third. That's where we were from, right. I just remember my grandmother being very specific about which specific boys I was allowed to play with, you know, saying it of course, you know they're having the most fun. So that's where I went over right, This for me who was the day that I realized. I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna

be affiliated, Like I'm not gonna I don't. I don't think I'm cut out for this, right, was like yo, So you know, they were like, hey, we're gonna go to the Golden Ox, get get a bag of French fries,

you know, just kind of chill. So we just cut through this alley and on the other side of the alley, that's when the El Dorado pulled up, click clacked the trunk popps you know what I'm saying, out pops the text that everything out, pops all the guns, and like bam, I'm ten, Like I'm ten years old, yo, right looking at this, knowing full well my grandmother was like, don't go over there. You know what I'm saying, Like you are not allowed to go over there. You know I

went anyway, you know what I'm saying. And I even remember one of my come my cousin Shannon, looking at me from across the street just given given that, I like, you know, you're not made for this, You're not supposed to go everybody, And I just remember that moment being like, man, we could die to day ten years old like realizing this might be it. Then that's I picked up. I picked up, I found the nearest Candice spray paint. Was like, look,

I'm gonna get into graffiti. That's what I'm started to. Anyway, that was skateboarding for me. Yeah right, and speak about getting pulled in like, um, the homies like that, you know, So all three of my first cousins gone, right, So the homies were like, oh, well, you know, they kind of gave me a pass without saying that, you know what I mean, Like I got to just I got adventure off just because my family had done so much dirt the what you wanna say to me? You know

what I mean? Yeah, sacrifice family members. So, um, I skated, but they used to just hit my board up everywhere I went and it was like yo, yeah, I mean I'm still from here, Like I don't know what to say. I pull up on the RTV and be like trying to hide my put my foot on on a sess

of them from neighborhood. But you know that that's I would definitely get pulled in just yea, yeah, somebody would have you know, and someone them immediately recognized that, like you said, the little nephew, ain't you Damn l A as big as l A is is really small. Yes, do you know? I mean, especially when you start getting putt in the systems, you know, like you know, I've done time in Petrino's Central juven on home, I passed through smar c Y, So you know, you start to

know people know all the same people. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like I went to camp. Was it camp? Not Camp Boxer? There's another camp, hell of people and like you'd be skating in the street. Yeah, I know that dude. Yeah on the end, was cool with your boys. I'm just gonna not that's all good, I remember, ye yeah yeah. So yeah, so let's get to the politics.

But now that we know what we're talking about, obviously, last last month, uh, we apparently we elected a hothead without checking with any of the homies, without no reservation on some I heard Pop the dude in his own hood, right, you know what I'm saying, just popped due the home looking back, did something even he did something even trickier. He waited till the enemy was in the neighborhood of

of of of somebody. We got along newt hood, yes, right, yeah, basically that I'm act even shadier and chopped them again, Like it goes back to you getting pulled in. Now Iraq is like wait a minute, like you killed him on our soul. So now you got us looking a bit like now you just you just said you know what I mean, like exactly, because that's what all of that's what actually what all of our our allies are saying, Saudi Arabia. Everybody is like fooll, like what you're doing.

You're pulling us into it. So Iraq just said that you know they get out, you're not allowed in the neighbor man. You gotta go, you gotta go. Yeah, you know you're looking at you gotta go. And that's so so as you said, Trump the hothead looks on the camera and says, I'm expecting all of our allies to come get our back. It's like, bro, we didn't asked for this fan. Yeah yeah, right now it's real. Simp.

I went kind of riding down to ride. That's millennial game banging to me, like that's you know, and and and and it's not millennial game bang and because folks don't know it because they locked all the o G s up. So we don't. You know, you you talked to youngsters. They don't really have no guidance. And I know it's an old dude. That's that's how we sound typical, I know. But but I'm gonna say it like I feel like a lot. I had o gs that told me don't go do that. Well I go in and say, hey, man,

probably be in a hothead. Can you can you guys talk to him and there would be some mediation, some some form of transformative justice, you know what I mean, Like amongst the circle of folks that don't happen no more because they've locked all around. Yeah, and I can speak for Southeast Asian community. They just deported everybody. So now you've got this rogue gangsters that don't check in with the rest of the homies because what he told them.

You got to check in with the homies because you know, because it might be we only got ten guns to this apartment complex and you're going over the neighborhood they got a hundred guns. Well, you need to let us know. You need to let us know, yeah, or you might catch you in this case, you might catch it ron on the wrong day where they like you know what I'm tired of this. I'm tired of you doing this,

you know what I'm saying. So like you said, the thing you just said, I didn't even have to ask you. Then you just set up is what the House is trying to do. The House and the Senate is like trying to pass you know, a vote that said and it passed the resolution that says, man, you can't can't go to war without checking with us. Right. But but

remember that goes back to to um to Bush. Right, Yeah, the same thing Bush was the great great analogy is I'm a star wars head to right in the prequels, which were horrible, but in the prequels, you know what, the what what Senator hal Patine did was he went to war without checking with the Senate and he wanted to eradicate the Senate so he could just be the emperor.

Let me just do it. Yeah, you just do it right now, because because the country was so afraid and sat act you know, the pay everybody was flying flags and everybody was really really afraid, and they said, you know what, as a president, you just just protect us. Yeah, just to make the week thought at the time that was the best move because everybody was scared. Yeah, fear. Yeah, you go into your apartment complex and knock on every door and go, look, there's a bunch of foods coming out.

They're gonna do a drive by it maybe a six o'clock Like, you know, I'm gonna stand outside. Can I just pop anybody that you? Yes? Keep us say whoever you want car, every car. I don't want to get shot. Whatever you got, yes, And that's ended up happening. So that's the national security narrative, right, That's exactly what that's the national security narrative. Right. So in this briefing, out

the window, completely out the window. So in this briefing that they had, it was supposed to be like the safety briefing. Even the publican people like Mike Lee of Utah said, you know, he said he's been in these briefings. He's like, he's I'm quoting him. He said, this is the worst briefing I've been in in nine years. And then Rand Paul was like, you didn't say anything. We already know. And because he said, essentially the briefing was, hey, you know, I heard he was planning this attack on

these embassies and on four at least four embassies. So even his own party was like, oh word, okay, well show me to show me what you see, show me something specific. You said this was imminent, like show me what's up. And it was like, well, you know, you know, I ran crazy, So like you know, they might do it, and it's like, fam, you they might like what did you talk about? It's the let's you know, let's all keep it real. It's the same war for when me

and you were sixth graders. Like, it's the same war. All of a sudden, he's got these these new imminent attacks based on like I heard, so now I need all of our allies, like you said, all of our allies to come in and help. It's like, fam, you just being identify you just you just made this block hot. Nobody asked for it, right sitting in somebody else's hood.

Now as this block got hot, you know, the news came out that there was a um, yeah, the Ukrainian flight that got shot down that was flying out of Tehran, and it was like they said it was eighty nine like Irani's like on the flight right obviously at first, like Iran was like, I I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. And then the news came out that like, well they shot it down, right, And

as tragic as that is, the block was hot. You shoot anything that pulls up, you know what I'm saying, And it's because of the dialed up heat. And of course this was of course, this was terrible. This is like the reality that a lot of people who didn't grow up in our in our environment kind of helped

them understand what was happening, like understand the situation. Of course, if somebody in the said dies, everybody said, of nobody, the bullet was not meant for you know, it was hell Canadian helly Canadians too, right, because super high, right, you just pulled me in, you know what I'm saying. And in that scenario, you know, when when a when a flight gets shot down, it automatically triggers an international investigation, right, and in that international investigation is also the US, Like

we're part of that thing. Now. If I'm a rand, I'm like, okay, I gotta wait, I gotta show y'all too, right. So here's my question. Here's here's my question. Here's my question. With all that we know about the way Trump is acting even among his own party, and I get it. Among his party it's it's gang gang. I get it. You can't talk out loud. Even if we talked, we talked about that. You just gotta do it. I get it, even if you disagree. I'm never gonna say the public.

But when we get home, you know what I'm saying, Parliament, Like you know what I'm saying, Uh, but what what do you think is the magic that Trump has over his base that he's able to convince them that even with the impeachment, which we're gonna get to, you know, in this situation that attacks on him is an attack on us, Like it seems to be the narrative he puts, how like what what do you think the magic is party with his party or even with his basse, with

his voter base, like no matter how much evidence otherwise, that clearly these are these are choices he's making, right, But he's able to say when anybody pushes back on it, like, oh they're dissing us. You know what I'm saying, Like what do you think the magic is? Like how or just how would you do that? How would you convince? Mentality is him? Like he's so down for the set he reps. She's just kind of like, well, he's saying he's doing all this for the hood, so I just

want to let him. Yeah, he's doing some kind of ill ship, but at the end of the day, he's flying the neighborhood. So he's down, you know what I can. Yeah, that's what his base is. And and it's it's also rooted in Hella racism. I'm you know, he was he was he was the anti Obama celebrity. He was the celebrity putting his own money up to try to discredit

this man. You know. So he won simply because you know, all the races were so mad about Obama that they were willing to put the guy who's willing to be racist out front, you know, like he's willing to wear his racism on his sleep, you know what I mean. He don't hide. Um, I've heard, you know, a lot of liberal pundits called him like a mob boss, you know what I mean. And and and he kind of is with with a little less intelligence and a little

less loyalty because he definitely an't got that. You don't you don't keep the rules, don't write or die. He's turned on every single person who's ever rode for him, and which is the next thing we're gonna talk about. But that's that's absolutely true. I think I can speak on on a few other things too with that, where this guy is willing to even you know, do some things that we have a code against where it's like I probably wouldn't let myself this, but he he ain't

got no code. So and at least at least if there's somebody ain't got no code, at least they on our side, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, right, so you'll you know, like a lot of some of the more centrists, like right leaning centrists would say where it's like, well we just kind of held our nose and voted for him, where it's like there's a lot of stuff I don't like about him. But I mean,

I guess you know what I'm saying. You know, but at some point, like both you and I know, like we come from the thing where like there's like there's a line that says even even the idea of ride or die like some of that. I mean, let's be real, like it's limited, like there are limitations, you know. In some sense, it's like I know where I come from. It's like, if you put number one the bread in danger, for like, if you put the money in danger for all of us by your actions, then like, my gu

on your own. You know what I'm saying. If you put any of our family in danger, my g you on your own. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's so there are some things that have some sort of limitations. And also, I would say really interesting is when it comes to like the evangelical base, which I'm a little

more well versed in. If you say to yourself, this Trump is this character that's more like a he's like a King Cyrus or like a never Kannezzar who like executed judgment against an evil culture, right, and like God used this guy as a correction rod for the culture. So he's gone, not he's gonna be godless. But that's how God works. Sometimes God uses godless men. The problem with that logic is like, but okay, if I'm following the same story you following, didn't that mean God judging you, homie?

That you know what I'm saying. If you're following the story, God was judging Israel with these people, so that means that's like, why are you welcoming? I don't understand why you think that that's in your favor. If you the story you quote means that's not your favorite family, that's your destruction. So these things, God could these things got closed? And what I know, and what I know, you know is when you start dealing with Ukrainians and Russians who

are actual gangsters, you know, saying who are actual my people? Like, it's one thing that there's a moment where all of us find out whatever that situation is, which one of us is like playing gangsters, which one of us really is not afraid to shoot? You know what I'm saying. And that's what and you know, and that's what Trump keated bolstering is we got the biggest guns, you know what I mean. That's the whole thing. And it's true.

You know, in the United States finds more on the military than the what the top five superpowers come bind, you know what I mean, we spend so much on military defense. As a former veteran, I know this, you know what I mean. You know, I remember after nine eleven, you know what I mean. I didn't get out to two thousand and four. The war was in full swing. Yeah. Um, And I always go back to saying, like every subculture when talking about game, and every subculture always reflects the

greater culture. So you know, we are born wanting to hurt other people of color, not at all. I wasn't. I wasn't born hating you talk to me, and what is that taught under I grew up in the eighties when it was you know, I got a conflict with you, probably, well what what How am I taught to resolve it? Gonna bomb him? Yes, you know what I mean. America has a problem with you. We're just gonna bomb you.

We're gonna go to war with you. Right. America also does not hide the fact that it will do anything for profit. It's profit over people. So in my small neighborhood, in my small subculture, I'm gonna mimic that exact same thing. I'm gonna say, I'll sell to whoever it is as long as I get picked, I'll do whatever I gotta do. I will do a home invasion robbery and put someone's life. And because that's what was taught to me, I wasn't born with this. Like the contrary, we come from cultures

that are completely opposite of this. We come from cultures where you don't have one parent, you got a whole village of parents. Yeah, the city is your parents. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Your mom's frankly, whoop your ass,

and you just gotta deal with the true story has happened. Yeah, so so you know, on on this podcast, I also want to make that that that's my stance as well, is that just once you recognize that, oh ship, I'm following the wrong ship, then you start to kind of check your own stuff start a minute, you know what

I mean. Our subcultures is not you know, we always feel like we were born into this beef, like beef was here before us, which is true especially in the black and and and Chicano community who have been here longer than the Filipino community in the Southeast Asian. These are historical beefs that are real. It's not just a bunch of kids who just you know, we just don't like the color that's you want to whittle our ship

down to. And really these are concrete deeps and unfortunately we're taught to resolve it the way America was absolutely you know what I mean, And so all that goes. And then now we got a millennial gangster in the house. We got a Twitter gangster now. And that's that's what gang banging has become. Like. You know, I look on Instagram.

I see these little kids flagging and you know every round, now guy is a blood and become from a time where you didn't just come out like it wasn't until the Peace Treaty that motherfucker started saying that, oh I'm a crib stoo dog didn't come out. He came out with an LBC hat and everybody was like he might be a c You didn't tell nobody, You ain't tell nobody. Yeah, then each treaty happened, and now who's so COVID? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

I remember that that ship. But even then there was still you still had to you know, if you really you couldn't just say these things, just say it now, you know, I mean, all I gotta say it is Takashi six nine, that that's Donald Trump, And that's that's what that is. That that culture, that same culture that burns to Kashi six nine probably just wanted to, you know, make a little bit of money. He didn't care how he did it. He you know, he was willing to sell this and it was money, and we got the

same kind of president. And you know who's claiming to be a blood or an American. You know, I'm pro America, but really he's just pro money. End of the day, that flag could go red to blue, which everyone's gonna make him the most money. He's gonna like with I throw stones from the Kaiper belt, cite the term crater when he came to take the title belt A next

door to them, bothos hot holes, hot holes. Y'all know how the lie goes when the cops goop banging the name of a lob bro, they'd be hopping out with thanks to put holes in y'all's job Browns, when the cops go banging the name of the lob bro, maybe

hopping out with thanks. I love that you went to like Takashi six nine because he's actually in my notes of like that particular Yeah, that particular brand that's like I kind of just feel like he just wanted to sit at the cool kids table and then didn't realize what it would cost him. Right in the same way, I feel like we're gonna get into this this left partner's uh interview that he just had where he did. I mean, I've never seen nobody testify since Nino Brown

and New Jack City. Ain't nobody testified that, right? Yes, him, that dude right so so in his testimony, he you know, he it's there's a few things. It's like I feel like he talked about Mike Pence knowing exactly what was going on. And I feel like Mike Pence in this scenario is Takashi six Nines where he's just like, look, man, I just wanted to be in the White House. Uh, I ain't know this one Like, I'm gonna give him that that he was. He was probably just just wanted

to sit at the cool kids table. It didn't know he was a part of the hustle. Because what one thing Left Partner said was like, listen, how I how I got my credibility was because Rudy said, Rudy on speaker phone was like, hey, this guy, this guy right here, Left Partners, he speaks for me and the president. So he running in the room and he say, hey, listen, unless you'll do anything about this, unless you'll run this Joe, this Joe Biden thing, Mike Pence ain't coming he's not

gonna come to you. He's not gonna come to your inaugurgation unless you run this Joe Biden thing, you know. Ukraine like, okay, we can't mess up our bag here because we still beat from show and it's not like we could keep up with this. So like, I don't want to make y' all mad, but what you're asking me to do is crazy, Like I can't. I just I can't be a part of that. Right left tells Rudy like, hey, they said no. Rudy was like, okay, I got you. The next day canceled Mike Pence's trip.

Right So now Ukraine like damn, he really you really did it, you know, saying so that means like okay, so then so then but then he flies to Poland. So then they fly, they fly, Mike Pence to Poland. Mike Pennce talking about like, yo, I ain't know none of this what's going on right now, Here's here's what I think. And that's just me using my hood Antennis, Here's what I think I think. Mike Pence was probably like,

tell me exactly only what I need to know. Don't tell me nothing else, Just tell me exactly what I need to know so that when the police come, I can honestly say I don't know he's else. Yeah, so he's sitting in Poland not knowing he's a bargaining chip. According to him, Left Partners is like, there's no way in the world that man ain't know, you know. So essentially Left started singing you know what I'm saying. Le basically he broke the code. He was like, look, let

me tell you what's happening. I'm already out on bail. Well I'm going to jail anyway. Look here, Rudy knew what was happening. It was all because Trump said to do this. I was there only to get dirt on Biten. I don't know what. I don't know what none of these people talking about. Here. Here's my question to you, like using your antennas, why would Love break the code? What you think? I mean, that's a good one. I think that that that snitch is gonna hang out with snitches,

you know number one? Right? You know, Yeah, I don't really have like a good answer for that. I feel like that is the answer, you know what I mean, I think that's a whole that's a whole administration full of snitches number one, and the around them is you know, you know when we grew up, there was always one set that was like, you know, you know about them, you know, yeah, yeah, just can't keep him. Yeah, they really about it. They might roll over on you, that

kind of ship. And I feel like that's what we're looking at right now. I feel yeah. I feel like Lef was like, look, man, I got a chance to like really make some moves, you know what I'm saying, Like I see y'all move like we move, you know

what I'm saying. Because he's involved in like the Russian Oligard stay Gangster's like, come on, but they like really like they shoot Trump, don't shoot so like you know, and he's like, look, you know, let's let's I mean, we can't cut it no cleaner in this like Russia put him on, Russian put left on, Russia put Trump on. So he's like, all right, it seems like this seems like a good little fit. You know, let me do this.

You understand, how go you understand? All of a sudden, Left get popped Trump back like he don't know him right straight up? So so left like okays just not which is not new to Trump, you know everybody. So that's so in my mind, I'm like, left, like, okay, I know how you move. Okay, you're gonna let me go to jail. Hell, I see what you're doing. You're not gonna Look. I saw you did that to your own home, and you did that to your own boy, your own boy, Michael Cohen. You let that man go

to jail, Paul manafor ran your thing. You let that man go to jail. Okay, cool, got you Let me tell you my story. Here, go to text messages, here, go to things. Because in my mind, I'm like, let know the code. Let know the code. And he's like, you, this man ain't got one. You ain't got no code. Okay. He rolled over on Rude. Rudy brought him in the game. Rudy the gag paid the man rolled on it. He's Rudy fruit to your flug. How you snitch your your

own plug. He's like, man, I don't trust another y'all. I remember when I saw when I first saw Live and his partner's picture, I was like, oh, there's some gangster exactly what I said. They could better game. I was like yeah, I was like, man, this is That's what I said. I was like, this Central casting on me like they are. I can see him in the Valor suit hanging out and Glenn Strange it up like y'all, I don't know how accurate. This is so accurate. Live

Partners basically broke the code. And it's crazy because you know, yeah, the Ukraine Russian thing, but you know this, it's so it's so deep. Like you know, when I first heard it, when it first went down with you know, I thought, oh, well, you know he's doing he's doing what what Bill Clinton did. He's doing the same thing which Bill Clinton when he was going through impeachment, he bombed camera, he bombed somebody. Yeah, you know, he dropped the bomb just so he could. Yeah,

that's the first thing came in on mind. And then as as the onions started up, layers back, like it was deeper. That's probably in there, but it's deep. And in the first war between Eton and edok that got us in that was really a proxy war with Russia. Yeah, and here we are in here we are arguing like Russia, you know we IOK. And that was the war, you know what I mean, It got a little convolute. It obviously because of the money and oil. But here here

at it again. Yeah, you know that Ukrainian flag got shot down, you know. Yeah, And that's what's crazy. Here we are again, That's what's crazy is I'm like, whose blood is on the ground is us who just got pulled in? You know? And that's to me, that's pulled in a dude who ain't never done no dirt, who has never done no dirt. This is my thing of the military cats too. Now, I still got a lot of better. You are one. Yeah, and my father is My father was in Vietnam, and I'm just like, it

baffles me. Now I get it. When I was on the ground in the boots, you just did whatever they told you to do. The obviously that's the training they trained to you know. Like I remember just a side story. Uh, I came home and in the military and the Marine Corps, when an instructive walks in the room, he yells eyeballs and everybody else snap really loud and looks to wherever they're here. They heard the word eyeballs just to get the wings attention. I'm driving And this is how conditioned

that was, um my old lady. At the time, they had these crazy straws with eyeballing him at Taco Bello and she was like, oh, look eyeballs and I literally turned in her face while she's driving and she almost crashed. That My gosh. I say that to illustrate the fact that that's just what's in trying. Yeah. I mean, it was just it became so natural for me to just you know, that's the additioning of it. But it still baffles me now when I look back and I'm like,

that dude, they never done no dirt. Man. He was the dude when everybody's like, yo, we're about think we gotta gotta go tonight the neighborhood. We gotta go. He was the dude he said, I can't bro my my chance hurt. I don't know what hurt. Yeah, I can't. He was that dude. And now he calling the shots and telling you to go to the war. I gotta run. I ain't running out with you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah man, this is this is this is yeah, we live. Yeah.

I even think even just the way that our system works as far as like so we have the election every four years, and so that means that like if you're an ally, every four years America might change their mind about you, you know what I'm saying, So like, I don't know if I can really count on your support for real, for real, because if a new guy comes in and decides, which is what happened to Iran, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo, we had

a deal. The last guy said, we was good, you know what I'm saying, Like you just said, make sure you don't make no like you know, nuclear bombs and everything. Okay, we're cool. And they said, you know what, that's fair. It's not like we got money for him anyway, you know what I'm saying, Like, but we're gonna protect ourselves, you know what I'm saying, And that's like that's a fair response. And then all of a sudden, like damn

out of nowhere, like man, you just got here. Now all that's gone, So like I don't I don't even know how to fix that, you know what I'm saying, Like you know whatever that would be. But if I'm if I'm salty, right, if I'm around, I'm like, man, don't count on them, you know what I'm saying, because like at some point, somebody gonna change their mind, you know what I mean right, yeah, anyway, well, thank you so much for joining us. Man, for I love I

love I love the concept, I love the podcast. I think that's what we need to do and start making

this process accessible, you know what I mean. And for uh, you know, for for a culture that's so obsessed with gangster ship, you know what I mean, so obsessed with war and so obsessed with this I hate that, you know, I hate using this word so often, but I have to, like it's such a toxic masculine space, you know what I mean that that I love that that you're you're using language and you're doing organizational work, you know, Like I always believe I hate academic organizers because they always

speak over the head of the people. They use language that people don't get, you know, dialectic materialism, and they use all these big words where I always had the philosophy, especially with hip hop, that you speak the language of

the people. You know, you speak, you speak the language of the people you're trying to organize it that you're trying to you know, and I I gotta commend you that, you man, you're taking a step to doing something like that, and I know it's gonna get better and whatever plug you need, whatever you neednt you in touch with you

know absolutely will thank you so much. I appreciate you and over you for just so you want to drop your drop all your social with your websites and uh so uh beat rock music dot com to catch all the artists that I've been working on the president over at the label. So I'm just really excited about putting, you know, a certain brand of hip hop out there, um that you can catch me at Bamboo dere YEA bu d E p I S t O l a Um.

You know, I'll be working a lot with the Answer for the anti war stuff, so you'll be catching me a lot of work with them. Um. But yeah, that's it. I'm working on the new album, uh the Sharpest Tool and the Ship. Hell yeah, let's go man. Thank you so much man. And it was like we try to tell everybody, man, politics is just gang banging in nice suits, right up. I appreciate you bro much. Love Well, that's

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